Cars.com's Joe Wiesenfelder takes a look at the 2009 Volkswagen Jetta. It competes with the Subaru Impreza and Honda Civic. Shot and Produced by: Matthew Avery Edited by: Sarah Gersh
Yes you can, manufacturer suggests you can fill up with B20 which is 20% Biodiesel and 80% mineral Diesel,but you can use B100 with as little or no modifications at all,depending on the vehicle.
@heysas Exactly. The biproduct is going to be left over, whether they make it into diesel or not. They will never stop producing gas, so that biproduct is always going to be there. My point i was trying to make was that it was gas that took all the work, when diesel is an added leftover/bonus if they choose it to be. Therefore, it should be cheaper. And yes, they still have to refine that biproduct, it is not automatically diesel. So i am not the stupid one, you just did not understand.
furley523 posted this; "I have an 06 TDI; the services are expensive!" The service at VW costs $140 mainly because the the TDI uses a diesel specific full synthetic oil (505.00). You change the oil every 10,000 miles.
I am afraid you are mistaken. The 2.0 TDI 140 PS is a common rail. I have checked this on the VW website and confirmed with a dealership. Check the listing in What Car?
Lo que pasa es que en México, el Jetta es el Volkswagen Vento en Alemania. En E.U. cambian los nombres para tratar de vender mas. Esto me lo explicó un asesor técnico de la Volkswagen acá en Puebla.
Diesel costs about 24% more than gas and the diesel model costs several thousand more than the gasoline model, so it just doesn't pay anymore. They use to be a good deal when diesel was cheaper than gasoline. Also ask the parts department what the 505.01 oil costs for this car. I think 5 liters is about $45 (if you go on line and hunt for it), but after 10,000 miles you change the oil every 10,000 miles or 12 months.
They are as quiet as a diesel can be, but you can still hear them. The Merc, BMW and Honda produce the quietest diesel engines. Honda has a 2.2 Common rail turbo diesel engine which they use in the Accord, giving a quiet and refined ride. Likewise Merc CDI engines are very quiet
I dont know..... but why would they make a new version of 2.0 TDI then? If the old one already had common rail....and they said in every magazine that the biggest change on new version is common rail, which will reduce noise and improve fuel efficiency? And im pretty sure that 2.0 TDI on golf 5 and passat with 140 hp was rough, loud, worked like a tractor. And a new one in A4 for example is very smooth and silent.
Incorrect. Audi A3 is still on the 140 PS engine which is the same as theJetta, Golf and Passat. All are common rail. The A4 has got the new 143 PS engine. There is a 170 PS engine available as well for all the models.
Actually PSA (peugeot and citroen) and Renaults diesel engines are more smooth than Merc, BMW and Honda. Also the new Audi diesel engines with common rail are smoother too.
I converted my 2ooo Jet into a vJet, Home made-dual fuel hybrid burning either diesel of vegetable oil. So far the best MPG I have gotten when not factoring in the free vegi oil was 298 MPG Also, I regularly tow a 6oo lb trailer. Just today I fetched 1oo gallons of kerosene. The Jet acted like she didn't know the trailer was even hitched on (and it was 4 mile up hill journey). Mistakenly I once loaded up 22oo lbs on mason sand-The Jet did notice but she did the job nontheless-even the breaks
The point of a Diesel engine is fuel economy, this car delivers excelent value for money, you get impressive torque at lower RPM's than in a petrol powered car. In motorway conditions this car does 25km/L, compared to 14km/L on the 2.5L petrol engine, Diesel costs more but you are polluting less and you can fill up with biodiesel which is cheaper than normal mineral Diesel.
Is diesel really so unpopular in the US that only some gas stations carry it? :O Norfag and Jetta V TDI user here. Diesel is widely avaliable and cheaper over here :D
No, 140 PS versions aren't common rail. Only new 143 and 170 ps versions are common rail. Old 140 ps versions have ordinary old fashioned pump injection. One of the reasons why they were so rough and loud.
Studies say Diesel engines last up to 3 times as more than Petrol engines,that is why only Diesel engines are found on lorries,buses,ships,etc, they also have a bigger energy efficiency of 50%, compared to 23% on the best Petrol engines.
Every car now has a hood prop. And modern diesels are quiet. Piezo injectors allow for multiple injections of fuel to quiet the combustion process. Do your research.
No no no. They used to be the same, not anymore. Audi now puts the new version of TDI in A3 and A4. It has common rail, 143 hp and its much quieter and smoother then 140hp version of TDI thats put into Jetta, Golf ,Passat, etc. But, it also lost some of that famous diesel punch when you floor the throttle. Now it has much smoother acceleration, not as violent and rough as before.
+complex2034 Yes, I said "Zero? Get real!" I'm in Minnesnowta. BTW, my cousin has a 2014 Passat TDI and her son has a Jetta TDI and they are in Minnesota and really like their cars. Fuel economy is a bit worse in winter due to different formulation and just plain colder weather.
You are kind of taking the same kind of risk that a person driving a hybrid is. If gas prices grow significantly higher, than they will earn the money they spent over the gasoline engine back. Here, you are praying that the ratio of the cost of gas to the cost of diesel goes back to what it used to be, in which case this would be one of the cheapest cars on the road to drive, as it will also last longer than a hybrid.
Our 2003 Jetta TDI 5 speed gets 48mpg easily, more if you drive it right. Lets see a prius get that. Plus Diesel is a cleaner made fuel, with different processing.
i saw it on a web page it said it makes 58mpg is this for real i understand its the way u drive but if it can get up to that mpg its good. anything between 35 and 58 mpg would be great . i never bought anything that wasnt toyota or honda how is a volks anyway
The Audi common rail diesel engine is the same one that is in the Jetta. So no, it is not that quiet. I know, as I have owned a 2.0 TDI Jetta. Same Engine as the Audi, not that quiet. I now drive the Passat 2.0 TDI. Same problem.
I agree the prius is a gimick for movie stars and tool's. If anyone thinks other wise consider this, when the jetta is turning over 400,000 miles you will have most likely replaced 2 batteries in your prius at 10,000 dollars each. You might as well buy 2 jettas at that point.
diesels should be offered by all automakers, i would think they would last a whole lot longer than hybrids, changing out batteries after so many years and all this bullcrap haha
Diesel fuel is sucks ... and need more money to repair it , what you've save you'll pay for the mechanist. Need also time to worm up the engine. We've bought Jetta 2009 works on gasoline , it's speeds like hell unlike the TDI
@heysas Funny that....as here in the UK we get hammered on price for diesel. More expensive than petrol (gas). Fuel price here in UK is a joke. Rip off Britain!!!
dude his reviews are fricken awesome! and he always throws in something funny
Had mine for a month....its fantastic. Make sure to get the navigation if you can, its top of the line and well worth the money.
Yes you can, manufacturer suggests you can fill up with B20 which is 20% Biodiesel and 80% mineral Diesel,but you can use B100 with as little or no modifications at all,depending on the vehicle.
I love my 2000 TDI 400,000 km and counting. The engine is great and I'm averaging 4.2 liters on 100 km per tank 80% hwy 20% city.
Besides getting good fuel economy, wouldn't a diesel engine also last longer than a regular gasoline engine?
Good point. Actually, I like the TDI, because it has lots of power and is also very fuel efficient.
@heysas Exactly. The biproduct is going to be left over, whether they make it into diesel or not. They will never stop producing gas, so that biproduct is always going to be there. My point i was trying to make was that it was gas that took all the work, when diesel is an added leftover/bonus if they choose it to be. Therefore, it should be cheaper. And yes, they still have to refine that biproduct, it is not automatically diesel. So i am not the stupid one, you just did not understand.
furley523 posted this; "I have an 06 TDI; the services are expensive!"
The service at VW costs $140 mainly because the the TDI uses a diesel specific full synthetic oil (505.00). You change the oil every 10,000 miles.
I love diesels! Much more efficient, ecological, and torquer.
Mee too
I am afraid you are mistaken. The 2.0 TDI 140 PS is a common rail. I have checked this on the VW website and confirmed with a dealership. Check the listing in What Car?
just drove them both today the 2.5 seems faster when you first take off but you can def feel the pulling power of the desil
Jetta and GLI ftw!
The 58 mpg was a different car but i think it was the same motor the norm on a new jetta is mid 30's city mid 40's highway. this is a great car.
Lo que pasa es que en México, el Jetta es el Volkswagen Vento en Alemania. En E.U. cambian los nombres para tratar de vender mas. Esto me lo explicó un asesor técnico de la Volkswagen acá en Puebla.
Diesel costs about 24% more than gas and the diesel model costs several thousand more than the gasoline model, so it just doesn't pay anymore. They use to be a good deal when diesel was cheaper than gasoline. Also ask the parts department what the 505.01 oil costs for this car. I think 5 liters is about $45 (if you go on line and hunt for it), but after 10,000 miles you change the oil every 10,000 miles or 12 months.
They are as quiet as a diesel can be, but you can still hear them. The Merc, BMW and Honda produce the quietest diesel engines. Honda has a 2.2 Common rail turbo diesel engine which they use in the Accord, giving a quiet and refined ride. Likewise Merc CDI engines are very quiet
I dont know..... but why would they make a new version of 2.0 TDI then? If the old one already had common rail....and they said in every magazine that the biggest change on new version is common rail, which will reduce noise and improve fuel efficiency?
And im pretty sure that 2.0 TDI on golf 5 and passat with 140 hp was rough, loud, worked like a tractor. And a new one in A4 for example is very smooth and silent.
Incorrect. Audi A3 is still on the 140 PS engine which is the same as theJetta, Golf and Passat. All are common rail. The A4 has got the new 143 PS engine. There is a 170 PS engine available as well for all the models.
Actually PSA (peugeot and citroen) and Renaults diesel engines are more smooth than Merc, BMW and Honda.
Also the new Audi diesel engines with common rail are smoother too.
I agree with you
I converted my 2ooo Jet into a vJet, Home made-dual fuel hybrid burning either diesel of vegetable oil.
So far the best MPG I have gotten when not factoring in the free vegi oil was 298 MPG
Also, I regularly tow a 6oo lb trailer. Just today I fetched 1oo gallons of kerosene. The Jet acted like she didn't know the trailer was even hitched on (and it was 4 mile up hill journey).
Mistakenly I once loaded up 22oo lbs on mason sand-The Jet did notice but she did the job nontheless-even the breaks
Prius - 15,000 sold
Jetta TDI - 1,800 sold
Oct. 2009 sales
"Car" he says it repeatedly. There are many diesel trucks and SUVs
The point of a Diesel engine is fuel economy, this car delivers excelent value for money, you get impressive torque at lower RPM's than in a petrol powered car.
In motorway conditions this car does 25km/L, compared to 14km/L on the 2.5L petrol engine, Diesel costs more but you are polluting less and you can fill up with biodiesel which is cheaper than normal mineral Diesel.
Is diesel really so unpopular in the US that only some gas stations carry it? :O
Norfag and Jetta V TDI user here. Diesel is widely avaliable and cheaper over here :D
you can rebuild those engines over and over man they will last forever trust me I work on diesel engines.
Well yea....but its not as loud as old one.
Some people like the diesel sound...so i guess its not bad that you can hear it.
no it stands for turbo direct injection,,go look it up!
No, 140 PS versions aren't common rail. Only new 143 and 170 ps versions are common rail. Old 140 ps versions have ordinary old fashioned pump injection. One of the reasons why they were so rough and loud.
I want this
I would not go as far as saying the new engine is quiet. It is more refined, sure, but you can still hear it is a diesel.
true,,i had a 01 passat 115bhp and it did 62 on long runs
Studies say Diesel engines last up to 3 times as more than Petrol engines,that is why only Diesel engines are found on lorries,buses,ships,etc, they also have a bigger energy efficiency of 50%, compared to 23% on the best Petrol engines.
Every car now has a hood prop. And modern diesels are quiet. Piezo injectors allow for multiple injections of fuel to quiet the combustion process. Do your research.
variable vane turbo, minimal lag.
No no no. They used to be the same, not anymore. Audi now puts the new version of TDI in A3 and A4.
It has common rail, 143 hp and its much quieter and smoother then 140hp version of TDI thats put into Jetta, Golf ,Passat, etc.
But, it also lost some of that famous diesel punch when you floor the throttle. Now it has much smoother acceleration, not as violent and rough as before.
1:28 "and even in the very cold temperature like..0" .. make me laugh boy I live in canada its -30 in january
+complex2034 Yes, I said "Zero? Get real!" I'm in Minnesnowta. BTW, my cousin has a 2014 Passat TDI and her son has a Jetta TDI and they are in Minnesota and really like their cars. Fuel economy is a bit worse in winter due to different formulation and just plain colder weather.
I cant believe his is inhaling the exhaust....that particulate will fry your lungs
You are kind of taking the same kind of risk that a person driving a hybrid is. If gas prices grow significantly higher, than they will earn the money they spent over the gasoline engine back. Here, you are praying that the ratio of the cost of gas to the cost of diesel goes back to what it used to be, in which case this would be one of the cheapest cars on the road to drive, as it will also last longer than a hybrid.
Our 2003 Jetta TDI 5 speed gets 48mpg easily, more if you drive it right. Lets see a prius get that. Plus Diesel is a cleaner made fuel, with different processing.
This car has a 2.0L 16 valve common rail injecion diesel. Very modern engine. Do your research.
i saw it on a web page it said it makes 58mpg is this for real i understand its the way u drive but if it can get up to that mpg its good. anything between 35 and 58 mpg would be great . i never bought anything that wasnt toyota or honda how is a volks anyway
vw make somes nice looking cars for the new technology i do take my hat off to them for making nice looking cars
it has a particulate filter. Do your research.
The Audi common rail diesel engine is the same one that is in the Jetta. So no, it is not that quiet. I know, as I have owned a 2.0 TDI Jetta. Same Engine as the Audi, not that quiet. I now drive the Passat 2.0 TDI. Same problem.
Uh, I may not own one....but TDI does NOT stand for turbo Direct Injection...it's Turbo Diesel Injection.....
yep its like a month old. its 2010.
I agree the prius is a gimick for movie stars and tool's. If anyone thinks other wise consider this, when the jetta is turning over 400,000 miles you will have most likely replaced 2 batteries in your prius at 10,000 dollars each. You might as well buy 2 jettas at that point.
tdi stands for turbo diesel injection not turbo direct....
123boro Thats what i thought
It’s direct not diesel
now diesel is the way cause diesel is cheaper now..
i want tone to replace my 04 xB. and it can be quick too. Mercedes needs to step up their game and get their cars and SUV's 50 state legal with Diesel
The guy at the end of every episode sounds like Newman from Seinfeld LOL... dunno why I'm posting this.
you can not get a quiter diesal engine the the bmw m52tu3 engine,,3.0 twin turbo inline six,best diesal engine award 07 08 09!
u dont have diesel in fuel stations ?:O lol
diesels should be offered by all automakers, i would think they would last a whole lot longer than hybrids, changing out batteries after so many years and all this bullcrap haha
They sell diesel almost on every gas station.
Noisy on the outside not even! my mom picked me up in the tdi at my shcool. I couldn't even hear it!
fortunately diesel is cheaper than gasoline in germany. but still expensive
I would like to see the Honda diesel here, but I think they are waiting to see who wins the election.
@fordboy111591 I wish it were that cheap here :D
Diesel is approx. 6.00 $ (4.30€) and gas 7.20 $ (5.20€). It sucks !
i live in new york, its colder..
yes but not in the usa
Diesel fuel is sucks ... and need more money to repair it , what you've save you'll pay for the mechanist.
Need also time to worm up the engine.
We've bought Jetta 2009 works on gasoline , it's speeds like hell unlike the TDI
6th gear, 45 mph i get 72 miles per gallon.
@fordboy111591 somehow thats true. lol :D
@heysas Funny that....as here in the UK we get hammered on price for diesel. More expensive than petrol (gas). Fuel price here in UK is a joke. Rip off Britain!!!
lol relly cold like zero
my old diesel benz starts with 20 cold degrees easly, just have to take care,
bora is european jetta
injection not inject.
It's the dog thing
but even worse isrepairing a hybrid
yep.. if u say it that way there are totally designed fro u you then. lol
1998 jetta are better n faster.
Well its funny how this guy must to explain whats diesel is ;)
TDI sucks - this is probably 1.9 with is 20 years old.
piss off mate¡¡¡¡¡¡
these cars sounds terrible... loud like a tractor...