This Carbon Fiber FLEXES!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- The McLaren Speedtail has so many features not found on other cars, here is one of them! The Carbon Fiber Flexes.
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The most insane looking Active spoiler EVER
*similar* to the Huayra
For all the people in the replies, yes, I know they aren’t the same thing. I said SIMILAR, *POINTING OUT A SIMILARITY*
@@John_again_Johnbut is something completely different cmon now...
@@memorimusic420 not really lol.
They are both amazing though
@@John_again_John bruh this is flexible carbon, pagani's wings are all a separate piece and have clear cuts in them to separate them from the body... the active aerodynamics on the huayra are literally just flaps not bendable carbon...
@@memorimusic420 I was pointing out the fact that there is a similarity. I wasn’t saying they are the *exact same thing*
It’s getting heated over nothing lol
Aerospace engineer here: as long as the carbon is thin enough it can flex really easily. Around the curvature, it’s undergoing very little strain due to how thin it is. It’s a really simple material science concept with some pretty cool applications like this one.
Aspiring aerospace engineer here: i hate to ask you this in yt comment section bug what do you do?
You aint fooling no one dude. You are NOT an aerospace engineer
Just like the Dreamliner?
It happens when hit the break hard . Okay . And why dint the Mc Stop whe he hit the breaks twice .
@@PineappleOnPizza69Man get a life and stop hating
I didn’t expect it to flex like that much
I mean you make anything thin it can bend like that the carbon fiber in that area must be thinner then the body by 3x
Or that fast. That paint compound... WOOO!!
Would have broken a phone at that angle
That’s what she said.
"Weird flex, but ok."
Said the other cars that don't do that. XD
I’m a polymer scientist and engineer, it’s not because the carbon is thin, or only one ply. This is definitely more than one ply. The true answer lies in the orientation of the carbon fibers, as the fiber’s strain properties are unidirectional, so this section of carbon fiber is likely in a unidirectional orientation meaning all of the fibers in this are facing the same direction, as opposed to being woven
Nice! We used to have polymer scientists on staff for blown film plastics
How many times do you think this will be able to do it until it breaks from material fatigue?
Good question. I immediately thought of the Galaxy Z fold getting the line in the middle from constant folding when I saw your comment.
As a pole vaulter (and studying engineer) who bends fibreglass and carbon poles, it really never gets old learning more about material science and its applications 🤩
@@dasharius3021 They're designed so they can never be raised to the point in which they snap from deformation. Now they did say you can snap them off if you push up too hard on them yourself though. But in normal operation it will never reach that point.
Man that paint job is a work of art in and of itself.
Never knew how to spell that exquisite vocabulary good sir
Why?
Not paint
@@MichelinPilotSport4soh sorry someone pissed on it and left a blue hue
Well paint or not, that is a beautiful blue color. That caught my eye way before anything else.
I really love seeing expensive cars in action and not just for flex
You’ll love our channel then.
Was that pun intended?
FRRRR MANN love those types of people
I see what you did there lol 🤣
@@kyototomokui6676what is “pun intended” and “no pun intended”? I have seen a lot of people say those phrases but I don’t know what that mean
The shape of the Speedtail is by far the most attractive design Mclaren has done and if I got them cash to buy one, HELL YESS
looks like a XJ220 copy
@@paddington1670 Bruh, how tf does that car ever come to look like the Jag XJ220????
I still prefer P1 but it's fire too
@@Joobral I understand you, P1 was pure perfection and the design holds up to this day
I prefer the Senna
I'm studying engineering, and my professor was actually part of the team that designed it. He always tells the story of how they did it at the beginning of each new semester.
Bruh. Your professor is the GOAT
🧢🧢🧢
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
Yes. Explain it to us then
Tell us how they did it
Finally, someone is actually showing it while it's functioning.
Fr I thought it was just going to be some information video with no demo. Was genuinely surprised when he showed how it works without a part 69000 video
Fr
I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who saw this video.
I’m not surprised about the carbon I’m more surprised the paint doesn’t crack.
I think long term you would see some peeling. Not that dudes that afford these are gonna be doing more than 50 miles in em a year and keep em in temp controlled marble floor garages
It will crack...
It's not painted, the resin of the carbon fiber weave is tinted.
As a owner of a painting business. There is paint that is made to flex without cracking or chipping. It can stretch and bend and then go right back to its original form without any lines, cracks or chips. It might show signs of stretching or bending after years though and need to be re done
@@PuffyCloud_aka_puffeclaude Yeah, I was fixing to comment the same thing, I remember a B.A.C employee showed Jordan Maron the process of "Painting" carbon. It's not paint.
(Edit)
Not necessarily paint. But it kinda is. Idk what B.A.C calls it.
reminds me of those little cut outs you’d put on a paper aeroplane for xtra lift! so cool
It is! Just upsidedown
I guess I mean down thrust, which, at the rear, brings the nose of the plane up, causing lift. I was saying they look like little slits on a paper plane
@@FlinkTheNPCsir flaps down is a nose dive 😂
@@LDSCarsit’s called down force not down thrust. It’s just giving the back side negative lift so it can make the nose pitch which causes the wing to create more lift but that’s why CG of the planes is placed ahead of the center to lift so it sort of counter balances this down forces. This down forces is really crated for stability purposes not extra lift. It cause an aircraft to come back to its original point, fighter jets are designed in a different manner as they need to be more maneuverable.
@@FlinkTheNPCnope it’s actually the right side up
Theres something about car bending like this without breaking and i love it
I'm more impressed with the paint lol
Same
Thats what im saying
Special coating almost like a wrap
Was about to say the same thing
Right??
It’s fkn gorgeous 😅😍
Archer here, we shoot carbon fiber arrows, and they have significant bend to them and are supposed to, a light spine arrow you can bend a good 45 degrees some more and it bends right back
I can't remember how many easton x-10 's i broke in the past 🥲
No one asked bro
@@SkankHunt8008 who hurt you bro ?
@@dorukdogauysal8299his uncle did
@@SkankHunt8008do one. We don’t care about your opinion
I’m a composite technician working with carbon fibre every day. Depending on the weave of the fibres, layering, resin type and curing temperatures it’s absolutely possible to have a flexible piece of carbon fibre that can bend into all sorts of shapes. It’s just expensive producing it😂
This is by far the craziest use of it I’ve ever seen though and I fucking love it 👌🔥
I am more impresses how they managed the paint to not crack at the bend
Gotta be the best active spoiler hands down
@@romansenger2322Ikr
Yeah it actually depends from resin as carbon sheet is flexible itself
I am a nationally acclaimed NASA technician and I can assure you he is right 🙏 👍
Oh nice to see you showing my car and it's features to everyone ❤
That paint and clear can flex like crazy!
probs a wrap
@@brandonhammond1362there’s still paint beneath it…
And no it’s not, that’s a factory color: Paris Blue
@@brandonhammond1362If it was a vinyl wrap it would be LESS flexible.
Thats pretty normal. Plastic on bumpers can flex ALOT, so it probably has a similar formulation.
It's carbon it's likely color in the boding resin
The paint not cracking is the real mystery
Most modern paints resemble liquid plastic from a flex perspective. We don't even use flex additive any longer in the body shop.
ACRYLIC PAINT!
Yeah the car is 1 year old. Give it 10 years
@@bandit6918 If you can afford to own this car, in 10 years forget about the paint. Just buy a new one.
@haribo- no it won't
Welcome to McLaren, where every car is a concept car.
This ain't no concept car...
@@joe13c00l2I think he may be saying that their cars are so unique they’re like concept cars
That would explain the quality 🙃
@@Sayin42 makes sense now
@@joe13c00l2 no stress bro
Dude that cobalt blue paint looks cool as hell on that car which is hot as fuck.
Woah the paint job is damn impressive 😮👏
its just a solid blue tho
@@phroogo...no no sir it is not actually
@@phroogo... I said the paint job not the colour shade 😂
My exact thought too. The fact that the paint holds up to repeated flexing like that without cracking is the most impressive part of this video to me
It’s carbon fiber not paint.
One wrong and that's
They actually backed into a guardrail once 💀
So just dont make a wrong move
@@mazda_rt24-pI made a wrong move by buying such a car
Pocket change to the owner you mean 😂
@@ginger_nosoulyea 😂 they pretend like the owners who got on a list for buying 5 McLarens at 150k over stickers is going to care abt replacing something on their speedtail
Why does it look like it has some sort of futuristic boot on its front wheels 😂
Because it does. To smooth the air flow down the car.
@@j10antIt’s so F1 2007 I love it. I used to hate F1 for blocking my view of those sweet BBS tho
I saw a video about Ken blocks audi Etron and they had a similar thing on the wheels, apparently it helps funnel air onto the brakes for cooling. Idk if this is the same thing though.
I said the same shit. Like ain’t no way he got a boot on that expensive ass car.
Less air resistance on the rims of the front wheels. Rear wheels it’s easy to mitigate because you can just enclose them for the most part because they don’t need to turn, but front wheels need a piece mounted on the rim itself to reduce air resistance and drag
That's kinda weird but satisfying at the same time. The shape and movement minds me of stingray's wing.
Man bro runs fast as hell
💀💀💀
This is totally underrated 😂
Hahahaha
They actually make many pole vaulting poles out of carbon, so yes, it can be flexed while maintaining its strength!
Good point! Usually it is thought of as super stiff, but they obviously can make it super spring and flexible as well.
And hockey sticks
The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is made of carbon fibre as well, the wings have the ability to flex nearly 30 feet. It’s one of the best engineered passenger planes ever. Carbon fibre is absolutely sick.
30 feet?
@@VENOMYT5 yes, it’s insane, at the tip of the wing it’ll flex upwards almost 30 feet as they fly.
@@theshawnkelly okay 🙂.
So what is the width of the wing
That's sick, I can only assume that the carbon fiber layers on that spot must be parallel to each other or it's some sort of custom weave... Crazy!
If this blows your mind, I’d recommend looking into the engineering behind the Boeing 787 “Dreamliner”. The wings are made of a skeleton frame of aluminum and polymer reinforced carbon fiber that flexes to specific angles at certain “joints” at certain airspeeds, maximizing efficiency. It’s wild to see that in action as well.
It's also wild when you watch a report about how much quality control Boeing took, spoiler alert: it's sketchy asf
@@bachhunghoangI used to make the 787 Tail fins. Everything from the Automatic Tape layer laying carbon strips on the main panels, assembling the aluminum and titanium leading edge, cnc machining billet aluminum, installing hydraulic and electrical lines and aerosealing all butt joints between panels.
The quality control was atrocious. Boeing is profit first.
After the 737 Max crash's there was a small push to make quality control a priority.
I made a push to have all areas read blueprints with manufacturing engineers to look for production efficiencies to sell it to management, really all the areas needed their hand held on how to build the fins. Uncovered a whole slew of escapes where mechanics were not building parts to blueprint.
Final Assembly in South Carolina was worse. They built a overnight facility across the country to make the worlds most advanced commercial aircraft. There was a complete shortage of skilled aircraft workers there and Boeing was forced to hire anyone that wanted a job. They hired more Call center and fast food workers than skilled labor.
The first 1500 787-9's have shim issues even in critical load bearing structures. I will never personally fly on a 787 despite how much of my life was spent making them.
The scariest conversation I had was talking to an engineer. He said the 787 was designed entirely in CAD to save weight so the airliners could save money on fuel costs. The plane barely met FAA requirements for strength when built properly. When they did stress analysis with the improper shims the plane failed to meet in flight forces.
@@tylermiller8142Well the engines on that one are a bit outdated by now.
@@bachhunghoangThe 787 is a fantastic aircraft though, the max is the big problem.
thanks for sharing
After a few years FINALLY someone made a video about it. Thank you so much ! Astonishing technology.
Dude that is legitimately the coolest thing to come out of the automotive industry
I'm not a car guy but this is the only time I got hard for a vehicle fr fr
Ever see a car stick itself to the ground with a fan that sucks air from the bottom to stick it to the ground more?
Except for the model T.
And the Volkswagen bug.
And the Porsche 911.
And the f100/f150.
And front wheel drive.
And all wheel drive.
And turbos.
And the automatic transmission.
And overdrive.
And airbags.
And the McLaren F1.
And hybrid tech.
Also full electric cars.
Others, feel free to chime in.
@@internet_internet *F1 GTR
@@internet_internetairbags ain't cooler than this but yes, I do agree with the rest
That’s really neat. Having done no research, I’d be curious to see how the paint and clear coat hold up to the flexing over time
carbon is a very complicated way, depending on the way it is being layered on each other you can create flex or strength, even both together, I know that with bikes they do add flex to increase strength by absorbing shocks with the minimum flexing carbon fiber yet being rock hard
Bicycles should not flex. That would put all your power you use pedaling to waste
in certain areas you want them to flex, otherwise they just break with impacts, it is very minimalistic yet very importand, it doesnt effect the rider that much because it is such little flex, but bikes are being tested on flex in the right spots to prevent frame destruction, I have witnessed myself the way they test frames in an eddy merckx factory and I can tell you, bikes do flex, perhaps you could look up a video explaining how carbon bike frames are being built
@@kaasvis1421
this video helped me understand some more about carbon , around the 9min 40sec mark you can see how much a bike frame can actually flex
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@@kaasvis1421the fastest carbon bikes flex too, but its so minimal that you wont feel it. its not like mtb sus where your bike flexes till it bottoms out
Depends less on the layering and more on the thickness and the matrix material I‘d think
Red Bull did this in their 2010-2013 run with Seb Vettel. It's called Flexi Wings. They can manipulate how the carbon can be twisted with Carbon Fiber Techniques.
But that was just due to aero at speed, this is actually hydraulic more comparable to actual DRS (except it increases drag, instead of reducing it)
@@BrunoHenrique-gi1wd i just stated that they can Manipulate Carbon Fiber with their Techniques. Allows the fiber to bend which was inspired from the red bull. So it was enhanced through the years so this kind of innovation from red bull is applicable to road cars now.
it doesn't break?
Most people don't realize it isnt rigid until it's A.laminated in a thick stack or B. Laminated and oriented in a manner in which it is rigid
The front wings on pretty much all the F1 cars collapse at speed and then spring back under braking but this is something else. Those are stacked short cord elements, this is a single piece that's being bent way beyond where an F1 wing has ever deflected.
We designed and started developing a flexing system for aeronautical applications but came to the conclusion that the carbon composite hinging will in fact degrade over time that renders the notion unviable for aviation applications but for a car - perfect. We are also mostly mega fans of McLaren in studio btw.
It's not hinging. Is it's curving on a large axis to prevent fatigue. Big difference compared to hinging. There is no crease that can cause fatigue. It's not rocket science. It can flex millions of times with no issues.
@@FarmerFpvit's still an added risk over a more traditional hinge design. So perfect for a car that most likely doesn't instantly crash if one of the flaps doesn't open.
They did this in formula 1 with their wings years ago. So that's the benefit when the company that builds sport or super cars is an actual competitor in high level Motorsport
Pagani crying in background 😢😂
For real
This looks cooler than thepaganis tho
@@arandomguynamedDylan not really
@@Itz_umair_009 the McLaren ones bend the paganis are just a piece of metal that’s being turned by a system they are both cool but McLaren is cooler
@@arandomguynamedDylan I will say p1 and F1 is but Pagani is much better
these graphics are realistic ngl
Fr
It’s real
So cool seein it in action for the 1st time
I’ve been waiting for flexible cars for all my life ))) next step - shapeshifting into the speedy corners.
I've never seen it work! That is awesome! Thanks
This is the reason why I like McLaren so much
This was in F1 back in the Vettel Redbull era in the 2010’s, crazy seeing it trickle down to road cars now
Damn, that driveway alone probably cost as much as my house.
Ok, this is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen on a super car!
The speed tail is such a pretty car
As a sailor the carbon on our boats can sometimes do some wild shit
Sports cars are an interesting breed. Some things are over the top. Some things are expensive. Some things are ugly. But that's actually pretty interesting.
That’s actually pretty damn cool
Not new nor inovative tho pagani is the ones who invented it first
Wow triple f you shock me all the time who knew it could flex like that that’s good to know thanks for the info
I do wanna warn you not all carbon fiber does this, depending on the way the carbon fiber sheets have been layered up you can create flex or strenght, these air brakes have been layered up to flex while still being connected to the other areas wich have been layered up for strenght wich will have way less flex and some even no flex
If you wanna know how exactly this works its best to look it up
I knew but thanks
I actually did know this, just a random fact I picked up somewhere. However I had no idea what it looked like and it got me shook.
yes these '"air breaks" are revolutionnary saved me from a fatal crash. you'd never expect a small piece of carbon fiber to have such pull
that paint is magnificent
Diamond infused paint I believe
since there's two of them, I think they also help you corner by flexing the inside wing harder than the outside
I've been building a lot of RC planes recently and was just thinking about a concept like this like an active aero. Obviously downforce helps with traction that's needed in a turn but some sort of rudder could add a lot of turning Force. It would be really hard to have all the systems work together and not fight each other.
Not sure about the speedtail but look up Pagani Huayra active aero you’ll enjoy that
Im not an expensive car guy and wouldn't spend the money involved even if I had it but, thats absolutely the most beautiful car I've ever seen.
The color and the lines are art.
This car looks beautiful
That will only work for 5 -7 years before it starts to degrade.
My jet lab used these to mitigate airflow and and turbulence in the air tunnels while testing aerodynamics during comprehensive loadout and atmospheric testing. Those were used daily at higher pressure and only lasted about 8 months, but the material dynamics performance ratings provided in the company schematics, and if my math is correct, shows a failure average at 60-84 months... unless you drove the care once or twice a week at slower speeds... then it could last as long as 15 - 20 years. But that is still not long enough if you ask me- given how expensive the car is!
Do you know what material was used, how it was prepped and how much strain its under? You sound grossly over confident.
Speedtail is more a work of art than a car tbh if I had one I doubt I would take it out more than a couple times a month
I have a strong feeling this air brake will one day crack as part of normal wear and tear.
People don’t drive cars like that much, and slamming on the brakes isn’t very common either. I doubt it will wear significantly.
It goes through very little strain so this would be a very long time,
@@danparish1344it’s a super car, people are going to brake harder then in normal cars. Racing requires stronger brakes for a reason.
Woodsmith here: we don’t use carbon fiber but we use wood. Wood can not be bent in its most common form. But in other forms is has the ability to bend. The form called “paper” is a common form of wood that bends.
😂 so true just like how thin the back of the car is
AMEN
"Wood can not be bent in its most common form"
- bowmakers and archers have left the chat
pretty sure the most common form has always been a 4x4 or better yet a tree @@Triggerboy78
@@Zoomydoomy trees can bent
It’s like a hockey stick, composite material is good with flexing without compromising durability, that’s the reason why it’s so strong
This is the first time I've seen it work, oh my lord
Bro called me poor in 1000 languages😭
because you consider yourself as poor
@@RTX-ql2ui Having a small amount of money income and amount of it means you just consider yourself poor?
As someone with a hotwheels track, I see this as an absolute win!
You've got an hot wheels track - lucky you
@@davebryan1890i had those as a child used to build em over and under chairs from on top of dressers aka wardrobes it was hard to engineer em btw they broke off alot but i had my homie to help or me and my homie cus we both shared alot of tracks to make one massive one
That was way more than I was expecting
Man, the speedtail is the most beautiful hypercar out there
His face:-😺
His hands:-💃
Oh that’s cool
Lmao.. Mclaren is now using this tech in 2024 F1 car atm..
"did you know carbon could flex like that?"
_Red Bull front wings enter the chat_
Also enjoy the paint fracture lines along that bend point 😂
Yeah that’s why carbon is used in racing
It's not actually big enough or drastic of an angle to be an air brake, it's applying down force for the rear wheels to increase their friction against the road surface to make the brakes more effective.
Oh so it’s not an air brake, it’s just using air to slow the car down
@@ibbyhalim2464 no, it’s using air to create more traction for the rear wheels. The brakes are slowing the car, the more traction the wheels have the more force the brakes can apply.
Downforce creates drag, so that is why you would only want extra downforce applied during breaking. This car is designed to do 250mph, every last bit of aerodynamics is very important. That’s also the reason the front wheels have those weird looking covers, aerodynamics.
@@TheWallsocketthat just sounds like an air brake with extra steps.
@@Slayerx2010 for an air brake to really be effective at more than just applying extra traction to the real wheels like a spoiler does, it needs to be as large or larger than the one on the Bugatti Veyron otherwise it's no more effective as an air brake than my hand is. It's a fancy spoiler is all.
It does create a significant drag force. Assuming cd=0.5 this air brake would create 1600 newtons of drag force at top speed. The braking power at top speed is 18,000 N. So this airbrake increase braking power by up to 9%. It does also serve to balance the car during braking since the front will naturally overload. The downforce keeps the weight balanced.
As much as i dont like new or super care, i gotta admit the back looks awesome
F1 used to have flexi wings in THE front, which could bend. Probably some inspiration from their f1 teame
Im more impressed by the paint being able to flex that much
I'm more impressed by the paint handling that so effortlessly.
The phrase "let me show you something here cool on the back" makes me believe that's not his car. That was pretty darn cool though.....
This is one of the better car shorts.
as someone who’s been working construction all their life, yes, i did know carbon fiber could flex like this. but thank you anyways.
That’s good!
Not only is it an air brake, it's also a spoiler. Because of that curve, when air pushes against it, it also pushes the back of the car down, creating downforce, therefore traction, therefore braking power. Great design idea.
The paint is awesome 🥊
Damit hab ich nicht gerechnet, sehr beeindruckend. ❤
I’m kinda just as impressed that the paint can flex that much, it is a really cool feat of engineering!
Honestly im a car guy nd dats deff one of da most impressive thing I've seen in a car no 🧢
I'm so glad he showed us. Wicked
The orientation of the fibers can be changed to get strength or flex in the desired direction. Just use a unidirectional fabric
Ohhhh a demonstration of the possibilities & capabilities of ✨the flexy wing✨ which now I can see why it can be quite elusive.
High end hockey sticks are mostly carbon fiber, it’s super flexible
The car is nice but that landscaping is incredible 😂
Mercedes already had this on the 300 SLR in 1955. And counterfeit items are perfectly fine, but you should then also give the probz for them to the right address.
Woah, okay that thing is beautiful.
This is one of the most beautiful things I have seen in my life. I would do very much illegal things to get my hands on one of these 😭
The paint job on that thing, wow.
i know carbon fibre can bend really well while still being sturdy but good lord seeing that flex just give me anxiety, like its going to snap
As long as the material stays within the stress strain curve it will return to the original postion. Look at all the fixing composite airline wings flex on a single flight and over the 20 + year span.
thank you !, i always wanted to see that. and wow that colour must be spectacular in real life
Carbon fibers themselves are basically ropes. The thing that gives it structure is the epoxy they are layered in. So long as the epoxy is flexible enough, the carbon fiber will flex with it.
They took inspiration from the cuts we make in paper airplanes to make it look cool
Its also painted too isnt it? I knew carbon could flex but i didn't realise paint could too, you would expect the paint to crack or do something but you cant tell, its probably not cheap, i really like this spec, the 2 tones of blue makes the car look awesome, im glad they didn't go orange
it’s been done in mountain bike frames for ages though (flexible chainstays etc)
they're also the best a creating uneven gaps in doors,trunks an hoods.