Your loyalty is with Vietnam though, because you are a Vietnamese. You are obliged by birth right to bear arms against Cambodia in case there is a war between the two. You have the option to renounce Vietnamese citizenship now if you want to fight for Cambodia.
Great work. I do have a Cham last name but ignorant of its history. It took me 4 replays to capture a broad idea of what happened to my people 😂 Thank you for a great video
15:20 in three towels there were three idols of Hindu gods removed or stolen. Some statues of Champa towels are located in the museum in France (Paris) or Vietnam (Da Nang city).
A Vietnamese-Am friend of mine had planned that, after retirement, he would go to Vietnam to do a thorough scientific/engineering study of these Champa ruins, as the existing work still left many questions unanswered. Unfortunately, he died of Covid. Hope the Vietnamese government does a better job of upkeeping these structures, such as removing overgrown vegetation and protecting them from further weathering.
Yeah! They didn’t have many visitors when we were there probably because it was raining. Also, people don’t often find these places intriguing when they don’t know much of the meaning behind the sites.
The video itself is perhaps non-controversial on the history, but the thumbnail isn't accurate: It was "Dai Viet," not "Vietnam" that absorbed Champa Kingdom. Vietnam today is not Nguyen Dynasty Vietnam, and Champa had practically long ceased to exist as an independent sovereign when it was formally annexed by the Nguyen Dynasty in 1832. So, one can say that ancient Champa Kimgdom wasn't erased, but simply a part of modern Vietnam, like the Republic of Texas is now a part of the USA. On a side note, while it was theoretically feasible to determine the extent of admixture of Champ genomes in today Central-South Vietnamese, given an extant self-identified Cham ethnic population, DNA studies by Vietnam researchers didn't reach any concrete results. It could be that the genetic admixture was so thorough that the extant Cham people identify themselves by culture and religion (Muslim), rather than genetic differentiation.
History is about what happened in the past and when people look into it, they want to know the names and events. If you define a kingdom based on a large scale for its structures and powers, 1471 was when Champa kingdom collapsed after their 14 official dynasties. The name “Vietnam” is never about the periods, but it’s about the unified way to embrace our long history of over 4000 years. And yes, 180,000 Cham people these days are us, representing a culturally diverse and vibrant country with 54 different ethnicities. So, when telling and learning the history related to this lovely country, for us, it cultivates a sense of appreciation, not devision. The vibes and feelings we shared in the video are obvious. You need to use your heart to sense it, not your mind to focus too much on the unnecessary details. Cheers!
@@madianddavid 1. The Chams were rarely ever united as one nation. Throughout its very long history they always had five separate small kingdoms. I believe the last time they were united was under Che Bo Nga(known as The Red King). Rarely being united led to constant civil wars in its history. 2. The Vietnamese were the first militarily to use firearms (canons and rifles). They used 1471 in the last massive invasion of Champa. 3. The Vietnamese were under one central command while the Chams had a mandala governance system.
Basically, the Vietnamese committed genocide on the people of Champa. It was reported that their commanding general offered a coin for every Cham adult’s head collected. It’s a shame because the Champa people had a much richer culture than that of the Vietnamese which is just a copy of the Chinese. Just look at their architectures for example. There is nothing in north Vietnam that can match their beauty and grace.
Dont simply tell the faked stories that Viet committed genocide of Cham people. History is history. There was war between Viet and Cham. During 14th century, Cham King 5 times launched invasion into the capital of Vietnam, Thang Long and also killing many Vienamese. Later on, Viet regrouped and made an inroad into Cham capital, Đo Bàn for revenge. During war, there was killing definitely not genocide.
@@madianddavid Huh? I fail to understand your reply. My comment is based on historical facts. Do some researches into how the Vietnamese completely wiped the Kingdom of Champa off the map.
@@didierduplantier8359don’t talk about things you know sh* t about or you make yourself a fool. Accept the fact that your people got defeated and didn’t have the will to rise up from the ashes😂😂😂
From the River to the sea Champa will be free
love to go there someday for sure
It’ll be perfect if you go on a scooter!!👍👍👍
*Các bạn rất giỏi lịch sử* !
Cảm ơn ạ!
Greetings from the Native Khmer in Mekong delta Vn! All the best to you all.
Hello and thank you!!!
Your loyalty is with Vietnam though, because you are a Vietnamese. You are obliged by birth right to bear arms against Cambodia in case there is a war between the two. You have the option to renounce Vietnamese citizenship now if you want to fight for Cambodia.
Great work. I do have a Cham last name but ignorant of its history. It took me 4 replays to capture a broad idea of what happened to my people 😂 Thank you for a great video
a lot of them still live in vietnam
Glad you found the video helpful!
Something beside Che Linh lol@@madianddavid
I'm having breakfast and trying to absorb all of the Cham history and I think I need to watch this video again 😂. Great work guys!
Good to hear that! Enjoy!!!
Thanks for your clip. I can learn so many things cuturally on the Cham tower from your educated video.
Nice! Love that you like it.
15:20 in three towels there were three idols of Hindu gods removed or stolen. Some statues of Champa towels are located in the museum in France (Paris) or Vietnam (Da Nang city).
That’s interesting to know because French people during their time in Vietnam contributed so much to the preservation of these ancient towers.
Great History 😊
@@SouthernCrossGO we’re glad you find it great!
Quá tuyệt vời em, chào em đã đến quê anh
Thank you!
Justice for 20 million indigenous Cham Hindus and Cham Muslims slaughtered by Vietnamese settler colonialists
A Vietnamese-Am friend of mine had planned that, after retirement, he would go to Vietnam to do a thorough scientific/engineering study of these Champa ruins, as the existing work still left many questions unanswered. Unfortunately, he died of Covid. Hope the Vietnamese government does a better job of upkeeping these structures, such as removing overgrown vegetation and protecting them from further weathering.
One thing I can say here is that losing these towers means we lose part of us! And that will never happen.
Did these places have any other visitors besides the two of you? They look so empty.
Yeah! They didn’t have many visitors when we were there probably because it was raining. Also, people don’t often find these places intriguing when they don’t know much of the meaning behind the sites.
*Mộ cổ chăm* !
Vâng!
*Tháp Đôi* !
Vâng!
Vâng!
*Tháp Bánh Ít* !
Vâng!
*Tượng thần Silva* !
Vâng!
*Tháp Dương Long* !
Vâng!
*Thành Đồ Bàn* !
Vâng!
Vâng!
*Bảo Sơn Thiên Ân* !
Đúng vậy ạ!
Appreciate the information but fyi your rapid fire narrative is distracted by the monotonous and irritating background sounds/ music.
Thanks for your feedback!
@@madianddavid not criticism only for your quality and benefit
They are still around. Majority is muslim now.
Yes!
@@madianddavid they used to be Hindus though before the chanpa kingdom collapse
The video itself is perhaps non-controversial on the history, but the thumbnail isn't accurate: It was "Dai Viet," not "Vietnam" that absorbed Champa Kingdom. Vietnam today is not Nguyen Dynasty Vietnam, and Champa had practically long ceased to exist as an independent sovereign when it was formally annexed by the Nguyen Dynasty in 1832. So, one can say that ancient Champa Kimgdom wasn't erased, but simply a part of modern Vietnam, like the Republic of Texas is now a part of the USA. On a side note, while it was theoretically feasible to determine the extent of admixture of Champ genomes in today Central-South Vietnamese, given an extant self-identified Cham ethnic population, DNA studies by Vietnam researchers didn't reach any concrete results. It could be that the genetic admixture was so thorough that the extant Cham people identify themselves by culture and religion (Muslim), rather than genetic differentiation.
History is about what happened in the past and when people look into it, they want to know the names and events. If you define a kingdom based on a large scale for its structures and powers, 1471 was when Champa kingdom collapsed after their 14 official dynasties. The name “Vietnam” is never about the periods, but it’s about the unified way to embrace our long history of over 4000 years. And yes, 180,000 Cham people these days are us, representing a culturally diverse and vibrant country with 54 different ethnicities. So, when telling and learning the history related to this lovely country, for us, it cultivates a sense of appreciation, not devision. The vibes and feelings we shared in the video are obvious. You need to use your heart to sense it, not your mind to focus too much on the unnecessary details. Cheers!
@@madianddavid
1. The Chams were rarely ever united as one nation. Throughout its very long history they always had five separate small kingdoms. I believe the last time they were united was under Che Bo Nga(known as The Red King). Rarely being united led to constant civil wars in its history.
2. The Vietnamese were the first militarily to use firearms (canons and rifles). They used 1471 in the last massive invasion of Champa.
3. The Vietnamese were under one central command while the Chams had a mandala governance system.
I'm confused. Is your channel about traveling or history? Also you two speak English pretty well, dont need to waste your time on the subtitles.
Thanks for the comment but enjoy as you go!
It's for people that has trouble hearing or deaf.
@@Go4Broke247 Ah, makes sense.
@@Go4Broke247 - Actually, the subtitles are for illiterate people -
Basically, the Vietnamese committed genocide on the people of Champa. It was reported that their commanding general offered a coin for every Cham adult’s head collected. It’s a shame because the Champa people had a much richer culture than that of the Vietnamese which is just a copy of the Chinese. Just look at their architectures for example. There is nothing in north Vietnam that can match their beauty and grace.
Dont simply tell the faked stories that Viet committed genocide of Cham people. History is history. There was war between Viet and Cham. During 14th century, Cham King 5 times launched invasion into the capital of Vietnam, Thang Long and also killing many Vienamese. Later on, Viet regrouped and made an inroad into Cham capital, Đo Bàn for revenge. During war, there was killing definitely not genocide.
Judgements only hurt the people who make them in such ways!
@@madianddavid
Huh? I fail to understand your reply.
My comment is based on historical facts. Do some researches into how the Vietnamese completely wiped the Kingdom of Champa off the map.
Bastard
@@didierduplantier8359don’t talk about things you know sh* t about or you make yourself a fool. Accept the fact that your people got defeated and didn’t have the will to rise up from the ashes😂😂😂