I really enjoy watching players that orient their gameplay around mixups and winning multiple micro interactions. That’s the healthiest meta for the game in my opinion at least. Both these players fall in that category and it’s great to spectate.
@@jj6148 I mean I’m not saying he’s wrong or anything but he typically sneaks in that pre-game John whenever he can. Like come on, let’s not take away from WebbJP’s skill and gloss it over by making it about the match up.
True but I saw too many drops from Webb too, facing the wrong way multiple times, misstiming up smash after footstool oos, up smash not connecting while marss was on the platform etc.
@@Horfactnah if you watch it back Sheik is literally behind zss when the move hits, which makes sense why she falls out. Marss could have gone for something more appropriate to cover roll, but instead went for a misspaced/mistimed side-b that understandably doesn’t connect properly. Definitely a poor choice from Marss in this situation, or arguably a good choice from Webbjp to roll in lol
@@Soul-xy8cxtotally agree with VoiD in his prime. Dude was fucking crazy, and I’d love to see what he could do at top level with all the new Sheik tech
@@corgitoergosum8400 nah lol, he whiffed it and was greedy and went for it again for no reason other than unga bunga brain saying " I deserved this, do it again" and then got massively punished lol.
Wowwww this is what a losing matchup for zss looks like? It's so winnable! This character is BROKEN and I predict a rise to meta prominence by the end of 2024, ESPECIALLY with her incredible matchups on sonic and steve
ZSS doesn't feel cohesive as a character. Something is missing. Moves don't kill or combo, her fsmash is a joke, and no combo/kill throws. What is her advantage other than paralyzer?
ZSS is the sickest character in the game but I don’t want her to be the best character in the game; like all those lame top tiers Aegis, Steve, Joker. Characters that are so much better and have answers for everything. Makes wins like Genesis 7 so dope when you’re not dominating with a broken character.
@@yurplethepurple2064 yeah Aegis is so sick, love her non stop hit box spamming, disjoints, insanely overwhelming speed, and unique combos that’s require precision and style.
@@yurplethepurple2064 oh and don’t let me forget Joker, the character with a neutral b that invalidates entire characters without requiring skill to use, hype comeback mechanic that rewards you for being bad, cool counter/reflector used intricately in any situation to keep pressure off and easily kill opponents recovering, and of course his supremely hype ability to pancake while fishing for his totally rad kill confirm with fair 1 with his already incredibly thin hitbox. You’re right man definition of hype these 2, amazing to see these complete underdogs able to beat those broken characters out there.
Also two mentions: The feint-fishing movement from ZSS at 8:35 is immaculate and at 10:12 she should be able to definitively kill right then and there. Sad ZSS.
I really enjoy watching players that orient their gameplay around mixups and winning multiple micro interactions. That’s the healthiest meta for the game in my opinion at least. Both these players fall in that category and it’s great to spectate.
Marss vs any character “this is a bad matchup for ZSS”
its slight loss at most
Sheik zss is losing though.
its losing for zss
TBF this one is pretty rough
@@jj6148 I mean I’m not saying he’s wrong or anything but he typically sneaks in that pre-game John whenever he can. Like come on, let’s not take away from WebbJP’s skill and gloss it over by making it about the match up.
Dude SmashLibrarian is the friggin best. Thank you for always archiving these fire sets!
He must watch Marss's stream because he always gets those hard to find Marss sets. Forever grateful
Imagine if ZSS moves worked
☠ there's quite a bit of copium emanating from this comment
@@DarkXream It's my drug of choice
Oh noo her frame 1 jab sometimes fails to link to jab 2, ZSS soooo dogshit 🤯🤯
Watching Marss play ZSS is the most entertaining smash to watch
Webb is my goat but man I feel for marss on that last stock lol
True but I saw too many drops from Webb too, facing the wrong way multiple times, misstiming up smash after footstool oos, up smash not connecting while marss was on the platform etc.
@azie4779 Sure, but that was Webb doing a move wrong vs. Marss literally hitting a move and it doing nothing lol
@@Horfact fair
@@Horfactnah if you watch it back Sheik is literally behind zss when the move hits, which makes sense why she falls out. Marss could have gone for something more appropriate to cover roll, but instead went for a misspaced/mistimed side-b that understandably doesn’t connect properly. Definitely a poor choice from Marss in this situation, or arguably a good choice from Webbjp to roll in lol
Thank you for the daily posts man
Fire gameplay from both!
Love to see the zombies references with every webbjp name
Marssもっと頑張れ お前なら勝てる
i’d LOVE a webb marss collab
Damn unfortunate g2, good game though
U about to blowup useful channel
To an extent I feel like Marss actually feels shafted by sakurai Zss was heavily nerfed a few weeks after he won his only major in this game.
Been looking for this set
残念だが相手強かった
Time to debate: is webb better than void
It isn’t a debate. We know this. Haha.
No debating.
There’s no debate. It’s Webb
Void dosnt go to enough tournaments now for us to know. He's retired and just cause for fun but void in his prime was better.
@@Soul-xy8cxtotally agree with VoiD in his prime. Dude was fucking crazy, and I’d love to see what he could do at top level with all the new Sheik tech
these characters do the most insane combos but barely rack up damage.. lol
Idk. Yes ZSS does indeed sux but that side B was questionable. I rarely use that move for that reason.
Honestly I've seen side b do that in that exact same position before but it should hit and it probably would've killed? Maybe
@@corgitoergosum8400 nah lol, he whiffed it and was greedy and went for it again for no reason other than unga bunga brain saying " I deserved this, do it again" and then got massively punished lol.
What sucks about it is that it the close hitbox is super wonky, if Webb neutral got up then he likely got hit
@@lightspeedbeast pretty sure you can SDI out of it too
@@Alaspooryorick98 The move stopped working the first time, his second attempt was greedy though and he did it for the exact same reason you said lol.
smile on my face seeing Webb cook hiim
was this played on a switch oled?
OLED doesn't give any better graphics unless you're on handheld, and even then it's mostly just colour virbancy.
How tf do you land sheik combos online
Muscle memory
WEBBBBBBBB
10:17
What about it
Wowwww this is what a losing matchup for zss looks like? It's so winnable! This character is BROKEN and I predict a rise to meta prominence by the end of 2024, ESPECIALLY with her incredible matchups on sonic and steve
wait🤣is this a copy pasta?
@@CoHzuslol I’m confused as well
Japan agrees everyone here is just bad
Hahaha good matchup against Steve is a crazy thing to say.
@@Soul-xy8cx It would be good if they didn’t nerf her.
Marrs doesn't understand when the match up is even
Game 2 marss got punished 5 times for whiffed grabs. And lost a stock because of one.
ZSS doesn't feel cohesive as a character. Something is missing.
Moves don't kill or combo, her fsmash is a joke, and no combo/kill throws. What is her advantage other than paralyzer?
After the nerfs she really just doesn't work as a character
ZSS is the sickest character in the game but I don’t want her to be the best character in the game; like all those lame top tiers Aegis, Steve, Joker. Characters that are so much better and have answers for everything. Makes wins like Genesis 7 so dope when you’re not dominating with a broken character.
@@supagremlin3274aegis and joker are way more hype than zss
@@yurplethepurple2064 yeah Aegis is so sick, love her non stop hit box spamming, disjoints, insanely overwhelming speed, and unique combos that’s require precision and style.
@@yurplethepurple2064 oh and don’t let me forget Joker, the character with a neutral b that invalidates entire characters without requiring skill to use, hype comeback mechanic that rewards you for being bad, cool counter/reflector used intricately in any situation to keep pressure off and easily kill opponents recovering, and of course his supremely hype ability to pancake while fishing for his totally rad kill confirm with fair 1 with his already incredibly thin hitbox. You’re right man definition of hype these 2, amazing to see these complete underdogs able to beat those broken characters out there.
ZSS is just bad Sheik
They’re nothing alike lmao 💀
@@SsaiyanDorge lmao 🤪
this is like when ppl call joker “better sheik”
brain rot
@@dogAB I feel like you think I’m being serious…
Also two mentions: The feint-fishing movement from ZSS at 8:35 is immaculate and at 10:12 she should be able to definitively kill right then and there. Sad ZSS.
Game 1 and honestly watching this is so painful because I can see all the WiFi pulling and tugging.
This would be smoking hot offline!