I've read from many different sources that shortly before the battle, the Welsh contingent had a drunken, violent episode with soldiers of the English army, and dozens of Welshmen were killed. It was also said that the Welsh threatened to desert the English and join the Scots. Of course, they did not, but I wonder if Falkirk would have turned out any differently had the Welsh made good on their threat. Any thoughts?
Well, I suppose you should be thankful that your comment/question was acknowledged, if not answered. My opinion? The English army was too large, and once the cavalry re-organized itself, the mutinous Welsh may have been run down, but also there were other English archers in Edward's army, including a contingent of Lancastrian bowmen, who actually did most of the damage to the Scots once they were deployed. But hey - I could be wrong. Maybe the Welsh could have helped, if they joined the Scots - but that would depend on how Wallace would have used them. After all, the English cavalry was only temporarily driven back, not beaten. In one account of the actual battle, the Welsh joined in at the last minute, before the Scots were completely routed.
@@DerekEno-e1k Could do a fictious battle a "What if". The Welsh join forces with the Scots. An interesting play through, also to add more flavour. Edward does not attack the Scots until all his forces (Infantry and Archers arrive). Using his archers to "soften up the Scottish and Welsh" Before a combined assualt on the Scottish and Welsh forces. The English Cavalry devided into two equal forces attacking both left and right flanks at the same time, while the English Infantry "Pin the Scottish and Welsh centre. Would the outcome be the same ?
You do know that at that time Scotland was an independent Country. So it was just a war like all the others Scotland and England fought over the years, before we became the United Kingdom.
The English projectile troops sure swooped in and salvaged the battle from initial attempts to break the Scottish spearman. The waiting game the English troops played before making their final moves where prudent.
The Scottish Schkltrons ? They seem like Alexanger's Macedonian Phalynx. Did Moray and Wallace not read the Battlefield Primer n pike formations lacking defense on missle troops?
@@robbie73vespa You may have won a battle, the premilinery stages, but lost the final in the words of Roosevelt after Pearl Harbour "History has recorded who fired the first shot, but in the long run however all that matters is who fired the last shot" i'm only winding you up, so don't take it seriously.
From Anglo Lands, to Welsh lands, to Scots Lands, to Eire Lands, then half the world plus a tad more. English started small then ended absolutrly HUGE. 🤔😐
I seem to recall that Wales was in a state of civil war when the English picked one side to support against the other. And it was actually the Scottish throne, secured by King Robert the Bruce, that later inherited the English throne through legitimate succession and created the United Kingdom. The British conquered the world. And then they lost all of that plus their own homeland. RIP
They wouldn’t have ended up huge without those countries to help them. Let’s not forget that. The English ‘conquered’ those lands because they needed them, they needed the abilities of those peoples.
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Was about to comment this, thx for clarifying.
What is wrong with era ?? 🤔
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Thanks dude!@@cinematicbattles559
William Wallace was amazing, Blessed Be.
I've read from many different sources that shortly before the battle, the Welsh contingent had a drunken, violent episode with soldiers of the English army, and dozens of Welshmen were killed. It was also said that the Welsh threatened to desert the English and join the Scots. Of course, they did not, but I wonder if Falkirk would have turned out any differently had the Welsh made good on their threat. Any thoughts?
Well, I suppose you should be thankful that your comment/question was acknowledged, if not answered. My opinion? The English army was too large, and once the cavalry re-organized itself, the mutinous Welsh may have been run down, but also there were other English archers in Edward's army, including a contingent of Lancastrian bowmen, who actually did most of the damage to the Scots once they were deployed. But hey - I could be wrong. Maybe the Welsh could have helped, if they joined the Scots - but that would depend on how Wallace would have used them. After all, the English cavalry was only temporarily driven back, not beaten. In one account of the actual battle, the Welsh joined in at the last minute, before the Scots were completely routed.
@@DerekEno-e1k Could do a fictious battle a "What if". The Welsh join forces with the Scots. An interesting play through, also to add more flavour. Edward does not attack the Scots until all his forces (Infantry and Archers arrive). Using his archers to "soften up the Scottish and Welsh" Before a combined assualt on the Scottish and Welsh forces. The English Cavalry devided into two equal forces attacking both left and right flanks at the same time, while the English Infantry "Pin the Scottish and Welsh centre. Would the outcome be the same ?
You do know that at that time Scotland was an independent Country. So it was just a war like all the others Scotland and England fought over the years, before we became the United Kingdom.
The English projectile troops sure swooped in and salvaged the battle from initial attempts to break the Scottish spearman. The waiting game the English troops played before making their final moves where prudent.
WERE prudent. Not where is it. 😐
The Scottish Schkltrons ? They seem like Alexanger's Macedonian Phalynx. Did Moray and Wallace not read the Battlefield Primer n pike formations lacking defense on missle troops?
Moray wasn’t at Falkirk.
Moray was dead,and this depiction of the Scots formations is wrong
Never seen northern England look like a desert!!!
You should have been here summer of 2018, it looked like one then
A Newlander telling US what freedom is?
You don't mess with Longshanks.
🏴 did & finally won our freedom at Bannockburn ya bawbag ✌️
Freedom? You get all your money from Parliament.@@robbie73vespa
@@robbie73vespa You may have won a battle, the premilinery stages, but lost the final in the words of Roosevelt after Pearl Harbour "History has recorded who fired the first shot, but in the long run however all that matters is who fired the last shot" i'm only winding you up, so don't take it seriously.
From Anglo Lands, to Welsh lands, to Scots Lands, to Eire Lands, then half the world plus a tad more.
English started small then ended absolutrly HUGE. 🤔😐
I seem to recall that Wales was in a state of civil war when the English picked one side to support against the other. And it was actually the Scottish throne, secured by King Robert the Bruce, that later inherited the English throne through legitimate succession and created the United Kingdom. The British conquered the world.
And then they lost all of that plus their own homeland. RIP
They wouldn’t have ended up huge without those countries to help them. Let’s not forget that. The English ‘conquered’ those lands because they needed them, they needed the abilities of those peoples.
Pls somebody tell me whats the scottish rebel against the english plzzzzz
What do you mean by this ?