A train like that CN one with more baggage cars than passenger cars is actually prototypical. Mail Trains across the U.S. and Canada often had consists like this.
@@SMTMainline Many Mail/Express trains had a single "rider coach' that carried passengers, but its primary job was to serve as a base of operations for the conductor Here's an ATSF example - Trains 7 and 8, Fast Mail Express, were commodity trains, or express freight which included mail. The contract the Santa Fe had with the Post Office was to furnish transportation for all mail in the territory assigned. This meant Santa Fe had to haul all mail no matter how much. The same is true for express freight. The railroad is to provide cars to handle loads no matter the quantity, so the train could never be the same from day to day. There were some regular cars and RPO cars, but even that could vary depending on demand. In addition, mail and express cars coming from other railroads were added to these trains. Trans 7 and 8 were also used to deadhead passenger equipment from various terminals as needed. By law, a rider car had to be attached so that any paying passenger could ride.
Trains 7 and 8, Fast Mail Express, were commodity trains, or express freight which included mail. The contract the Santa Fe had with the Post Office was to furnish transportation for all mail in the territory assigned. This meant Santa Fe had to haul all mail no matter how much. The same is true for express freight. The railroad is to provide cars to handle loads no matter the quantity, so the train could never be the same from day to day. There were some regular cars and RPO cars, but even that could vary depending on demand. In addition, mail and express cars coming from other railroads were added to these trains. Trans 7 and 8 were also used to deadhead passenger equipment from various terminals as needed. By law, a rider car had to be attached so that any paying passenger could rid
Starting in the early 1950s, the Erie ran a pair of typical mail trains, Nos. 7 and 8, that continued after the October 1960 Erie-Lackawanna merger. An article in the January 1984 Trains magazine included the photo above of westbound train No. 7 at Binghamton, N.Y., in 1965. The mixture of cars in No. 7’s consist shows the full range of mixed car types likely to appear in mail and express trains. Interestingly, the E-L timetable of the period noted “This train is primarily for mail, express, and baggage but has a New York-to-Chicago coach for use of passengers.” Passengers who wanted to ride it could look forward to a 25-hour trip that started and ended in the wee hours of the day. If the train was operating on time, three of No. 7’s stops were at stations with restaurants that could supply “snacks” around mealtimes during the long trip. Sealed through cars were used by both the post office and REA during busy times. These baggage or storage mail cars were loaded in one city, closed and locked (sealed), moved to a destination, and then switched out and spotted for unloading. The post office commonly used sealed through baggage cars to transport presorted consumer magazines from publishers to distant cities for faster distribution. Railroads that handled large amounts of head-end traffic often operated scheduled mail and express (M&E) trains. In the 1960s, the New York Central’s mainline M&E train often had up to 35 cars pulled by four E units. These dedicated trains reduced the station times for the regular passenger trains. Hauling full carloads of mail and express between major cities was more efficient, as switching cars in or out of the train was faster than waiting for the hand transfers. Operating at passenger speeds, these trains made great time between intermediate stops. However, it wasn’t unusual for them to sit for a half-hour or more while the manual transfers of mail and express took place at smaller stops. Some railroads and REA tried container systems and piggyback trailers to improve efficiency. However, any flatcars used in these systems had to be fitted with approved high-speed trucks and steam, air brake, and signal lines for use in passenger trains. In any case, the RPO cars usually stayed on their home railroad’s normal routes, while sealed through baggage and mail storage cars could travel almost anywhere. Running a through baggage car from another railroad wouldn’t be unusual and could add an interesting bit of color to your railroad’s M&E train.
2:01 Central Valley trucks were once considered " state of the art ". CV is also the same California company located in the Central Valley that came up with the first 150 ' Pratt Truss bridge kit in ho scale plastic many years ago. They " bridged " out , pardon the pun, into 72' plate girder bridges. Their bridge kits have excellent detail. But those trucks are from the 1960's originally and were still selling through the 1980's with ads placed in Railroad Model Craftsman and you could also order them through William K. Walthers at that time. I got 4 pair of the fine-line roller bearing trucks with the narrow tread not too long ago to place under a Quality Craft Models GATX 96' jumbo whale belly tank car. They work flawlessly. Central Valley fine - line is very close to prototypical looking wheels.
I agree. Central Valley trucks were the best money could buy from the 1950's thru at least the early 1980's. Although no longer manufactured, they're still considered excellent quality.
The unique looking ALCO by Mehano is a C628 or an M636, 5 C628s were built for the Hamersley Iron in Australia. As for the M636s 12 were built and were built on site in Australia at AE Goodwin.
I agree. Did a quick search and indeed is an Australian Iron Ore company railroad. Looks like it is a C628 from what I could find. P.S. from Wikipedia page for HI... "five Alco C-628 locomotives (2001-2005) were purchased in 1965-67, two being built in Schenectady in the United States and three by AE Goodwin in Sydney."
Really cool. Video to have the Canadian national steamwalk. More around with the with some cars. And by the way, if you're listening to this I want all of the stuff that is in the box and I just wanted for free. I cause I would like my own projects. Thank you.
@@SMTMainlineyour first Australian , the Blue BHP Iron Ore locomotive from 14th June 2020 is another model from the isolated iron ore Railways in the far North West of Australia in the Pilbara iron ore mining region. These are all built to class 1 US railroad standards and not able to run in any other parts of Australia. A video search will show the iron ore trains running with six or more high power locomotives in a distributed power formation. This to cope with around 250 loaded iron ore cars giving a train weight of 25,000 tonnes. Iron ore trains and track maintenance are the only trains you would see on these lines. In such an isolated difficult desert style place to get to that very few people in Australia have seen them in person. Only started with the newly discovered iron ore mines starting up in 1965.
The Smokey Joe has been combined with a Triang Nellie’s cab and frames, the frames should clip onto the plastic chassis and hold the “crosshead” in place
@@SMTMainline seeing as it has the Nellie frames, it won’t clip onto the Smokey chassis, would require some poking about to make it work, alternatively you could glue strips of plasticard over the tops of the cylinders and paint them to match
The British passenger car is a BR MRK1 in the grey and blue late BR livery(break car version theirs a break system aswell as a passenger comportment)that smoky joe engine could be repainted into a custom Hershey’s livery for the factory
The Big Pine Lumber loco is a Cox. There was a complete set made of these. I have the fire tank car and two tractor trailers from the set. The prices were actually quite good for that show. The multilevel car was definitely a good deal.
Enjoyed the shopping video...very relaxing and informative. I'm always interested in train junk box lots! Love looking thru them when I get them home! Thanks for the video.
I enjoy your video's, and I have been a subscriber for about 3 years and I have learned a lot from you on how to work on my locos so thank you. And keep it up
I definitely wouldn't be adverse to that little Pennsylvania 0-4-0ST. Been looking for some more unusual locos for my layout and an American loco in the UK is always a bit of a head turner
Oh wow, I’d love to see models at those prices in Australia! As an aside, from 2008-14, I was the workshop coordinator of Junee Railway Workshop (formerly Austrac), at the 1947-built 42 bay roundhouse in Junee, New South Wales, here in Australia. JRW owns 4836, as featured in model form by Powerline, now in your collection. It’s not in a matching box, as the candy livery was the post-1983 State Rail colour scheme of red, orange, and white. 4836 was a lovely loco, especially after we gave it a full rebuild. Just for clarity, Austrac was an early private operator in NSW from 1993 when freight rail was corporatised and privatised. They bought three 48 class locos, painted them up as shown, and used them as rental motive power. Austrac became Junee Railway Workshop around 2000, and so remains today. Love your work, and your openness to the Aussie models.
Hamersley Iron was an iron ore company, who built the Hamersley & Robe River railway, to deliver iron ore from their mines in western Australia to Port Hedland. The main locos on the railroad were Alco C-628 - and they had five of them, numbered 2001-2005. They also owned 39 Alco C-636's, along with MLW ML-6636's. In 1978, they purchased 50 GE C36-7 locos.
No, Hamersley Iron and Cliffs Robe River Iron Associates were two different companies. Hamersley Iron ran the line from Mount Tom Price to the port at Dampier (later extended to Paraburdoo), and the Robe River Railroad ran from Pannawonica to Cape Lambert. They may well be owned by the same mining company now.
What a wonderful batch of locos you picked up! Looks like a lot of fun projects ahead. I too would be interest in the box of miscellaneous. Very intrigued by the Biologique or whatever it said.
Man I would love these videos. Absolutely fantastic since I don't get a lot of shows rolling through my area. Also, I would love a box of random train stuff! I just restarted working on my layout with my son and could definitely use some bits and pieces to get going.
Nice bunch of loot from the show! I love those heavyweight passenger cars, looking real snazzy! I'd also be interested in that lot you want to give away, lots of good parts and projects in there!
Train shows are the best place to find some really good deals. Not bad for the price. I really like the CN steamer with the roller stock. Sharp looking. Good vid. From Texas.
Love all the new additions to the collection you picked up. As I am Australia, I also have a few powerline models, there are sort of the budget entry Australian model trains of todays time, before that it was whatever lima had to offer, or kits. I'm a British modeler, I would love that Hornby break down crane you have in the box if no one else wants it!
@@SMTMainline Thank you I got started a little late in the hobby but I did aquire two Tri-ang locos one is I believe a R55 diesel beautiful runner but I'm like you someone says they don't run and I like to make them run gives something to do since I'm retired and have a nice and safe day, Mike
Central Valley trucks were the premier line of add on trucks for passenger and rolling stock. Buy everyone you can find if < $25. They add weight and roll freely with a little graphite lub/aka car door lock deicer. Passenger consists would carry several baggage/package (think FedEx) cars at the head end as these were the true revenue producers for each train. The "Pine Lumber" GP9 is mid 70's from Cox Mfg. They did a brief foray into HO. The loco mold still exists today as the Walthers GP9m. Your GO addiction is showing 😉.
I found the hog warts express interesting as I just bought one in a lot so I’ll probably repaint mine into GWR colors. I can’t wait to see you fix those locos.
That 48 class is a bute! They easily go for 150-200 Australian dollars in box and some of them are certainly getting old. And yeah, as you said they have pretty weird gear ratios. All of them do. In terms of Australian locomotives for the price you cant get much better. As for the miscellaneous leftovers some of that stuff is actually pretty cool for a train fan in Australia, 0-4-0's especially are very very hard to find and when they sell they go for heaps for what they're worth. So yeah, if nobody else will i'd gladly take it off your hands, the only issue is shipping which will be a nightmare.
Great video SMT Mainline. You are one of my favorite TH-camrs. I started model railroading alongside your videos. Since I am a beginner, I am quite interested in getting that box of model trains.
I just Love how the collection slowly grows, and more new and interesting locomotives are thrown into the mix. Love the videos, keep em coming! The box of train stuff would go nice with my already growing collection of rolling stock and locomotives, I personally work on the old locomotives and cars that we get donated to our club. So it would be nice getting some more so we can put them to the kits that we are building for a way to get a younger audience into the hobby without blowing the bank.
I really want that box because I’m just getting in to model trains and am getting a 4x12 train table and I really need some cars for my train and I love your watching your videos for about a year have great day harry.
You got some really cool finds. I also watched a video showing the Medina Railroad Museum in western new york indoor Ho layout is 200 feet long and 14 feet wide definitely road trip worthy
Love your take on train shows. I just went to one this past weekend and my take was equally a mixed bag. And yes, I love the challenge of a project and would be interested in finding your 'free box of stuff' a good home.
I like that steam engine genuinely nice I would like that one and it would my first ho😁i know their is a unlikely chance I get it but it would cool because me and my friend are into ho and we like that stuff so keep up the good vids
Another great video. I really like to see 6401 with a proper train and I thing this consist is pretty good for a mail train run which was back in the day pretty common.
At 6:44 that motor is identical to the one i have, its a 3 pole motor which is sort of like a riverrossi motor. That box at the end looks cool, im honestly intrested in it, great video! Keep it up!!!
Dear SMT, nice train show haul. Some great projects to look forward to! Curious how you will handle the Smokey Joe and the Potter one. Also looking forward to your TLC on the all metal Japanese loco and the Mehano one. Love the Canadian passenger consist. I’m interested in the draw, if only to improve my weathering and airbrushing skills. Don’t know if you consider European addresses for draw participation, guess we should be able to figure that out. On our last visit to see family in the States I found a shipping company which still offers sea shipping for small items at a very reasonable rate, so that shouldn’t be a problem as far as I’m concerned. Cheerio
Apparently it was supposed to be Percy from Thomas. I'm personally not big on trains with faces but maybe I could just make it a green 0-4-0? I'm not sure where I want to take the project.
That Powerline 48 class what a find! Australian locomotives are really difficult to find overseas so if you see one at a shop or exhibition buy it. Looks to be in really good condition too. I recon a bit of oil and it should run a lot quieter and smoother.
I’d love to get my hands on the box of trains! I’m teaching myself more about making custom models and the trucks would come in handy, and who doesn’t love a good new loco to run on their layout.
Looks like a great show! The three baggage cars isn’t completely unheard of because at one point or another, most passenger trains ended up relying more on the mail and less than car loads freight to stay afloat. This often lead to more baggage cars than coaches. Or think of it as a train of city folk heading to the mountains for a trip and extra baggage cars were needed for their equipment.😂
Nice haul of stuff, the vise seems like it was a really great deal. I recently got a similar one, and it’s been a huge help on a lot of projects. I’m always down for more projects, but as unlikely as it is, that box would make for some good ones.
Hey harrison, if your looking for a train show to go to here in the states, i recommend the Madcity Train Show in February. I tend to go to the show on the opening Saturday but being i am probably going with the train club this time around, i'm probably going to be there both days
Great video as usual, I would be interested in the give away items as I wish to break away from the UK stuff and start running trains from USA/Canada. Keep making the videos they are great.
Smt I am just starting to build my very first ho scale layout and more rolling stock can go a long way and you are the one who got me back into this hobby
It is good to see you have two locos from Australia. One from the highly populated East side, and the other from the sparsely populated North part of West Australia.
48 class is, of course, a New South Wales workhorse and amongst the few locomotive classes still operating that had been built and operated by the NSW Government before freight was privatised. 81, 82 and 90 class are the others. The box says "Candy" livery which was introduced in 1982 for NSW Govt locos but the model you have there is a different livery.
its always cool to go to these shows and see what others have as they can have unique and rare items, i'm also interested in that 3 stuff (the best kind of free:)
Hey Smt very nice Canadian Pacific passenger cars and locomotive! I went to a train show about a month ago and found some CP passengers that look about the same just not heavyweight. Overall I’d say you did really well with that train show! Rip British N scale though😂
I have a N scale set Iv'e had for 30 years but never ever really used because it was so fragile. Now I am an old fart heading into 2nd childhood. HO scale seems to be more forgiving. Iv'e learned a lot watching your channel. It has helped me greatly with my first table set up. I have lived a life of self control and tolerance. Now I find that I have become addicted to something.... The hardest step seems to be to make the decision to solder it all together. I could really kit bash/ frankenstein with that mess. Mad Max material for one end of the table.
@@SMTMainline Definitely, but I was referring to that feeling of "point of no return" Fortunately I can solder a rainy day. I Ran a TV / consumer electronics repair shop for 30 years. That Iron you use gives me chills every time I see you use it on a wire lol. I had one at the shop like that I rarely used. We called it "goliath". On and off quick, works well soldering track I'm sure.
Thank you for your channel, watching you got me started back in the hobby I enjoyed in the 80s! I am slowly building up supplies for a future layout. Please include me in the draw if I am not too late. Many Thanks, Mike
Harrison I love your Channel I just got back into the hobby after being out of it for almost 20 years it’s great seeing you fix things and learning new techniques keep up the awesome work!
@@SMTMainline thanks and it’s great now to have my own adult money to spend on the hobby instead of relying on my allowance as a kid lmao so excited to be back!
Powerline used to make infill pieces for the pilots on the 48 class that not only filled in the big rectangular ooenings, but also provided mounting pads for Kadee drawgear.
the Smokey Joe bodge was someone's attempt at making a model of Percy from Thomas the Tank Engine. I'd say give it a good coat of bright green! I'd never stare a gift horse in the eye and say no, so I'd gladly take the stuff you couldn't sell. I'm sure I can load them up full of lead and put nice new wheels and trucks to make them great.
I really like and appreciate your cite. Its funto watch you work with the trains and repair them. I especially enjoyed the video of the repair to Gramas train.
I believe the little steam locomotive is a Ken Kidder product (circa 1965). Ken Kidder was a somewhat cheaper importer of models from Japan-American prototypes produced in Japan. The cab on that Smokey Joe kit-bash is from a Tri-ang Nellie 0-4-0. Central Valley manufactured freight cars and trucks from the late 1940s on-I don't know if or when they stopped trading.
Man I wish I had train shows local to me but there aren’t any within a few hours drive unfortunately. The Bachman consolation unit(great northern) is one my mom’s favorite train to run. I love these videos, so much fun to watch. There were some cool looking rolling stock so I would be interested in entering the draw.
Central Valley Model Works was originally founded by George Hook in 1947. I was given one of his personal boxcars with his name on the bottom; it was made for third rail HO scale track, so the wheels are uninsulated and would short out a regular HO Scale layout. I donated it to the Cleburne Railroad Museum, which has it on display in their display case.
Hammersly Iron. Had their own railway to transport Iron Ore to the Port in North West Australia. Interesting fact. They actually owned the GWR steam locomotive. Pendennis Castle from the UK. Which they used to run family days trips for their employees. It caught up with Flying Scotsman on its visit to Australia and ran several trips around Perth. Its now been donated back to the Great Western Society in the UK.
6:25 That little 0-4-0ST was made from a Hornby Smokey Joe and a Triang 'Nellie' 0-4-0, but you CAN NOT convince me that it's not a RWS Percy the Small Engine WIP. it has all the details and shape! I am also interested in that box of oddities!
Count me in for the box o' free stuff. Otherwise, I have to say I'm jealous of those Canadian prices! I watched this just a day after going to the Greenberg Train Show in Oaks, PA, and the cheapest I could find were engines priced at $20 USD each. Big difference! Maybe I can convince my wife that the travel tickets to north of the border will be offset by the lower train show prices.
Most Canadian train shows are not this well priced but the OVAR flea market usually consists of people who aren't usually vendors and just want to get rid of stuff rather than turn a good profit.
Really nice fines Harrison, hope you get the locomotives and Rollingstock to work! I would like the box too. But it’s fine if not still loved the video
Wow...Nice haul...seems like you find better deals than I have been seeing around the Chicago area...I'd also like to throw my hat in the ring for the giveaway...looks like there are some good pieces and parts in there... Rich...
Did they have special kinds for the Yugoslavian market or just sell what they were making for the Ameri-Cananadian markets? I've always liked the brand for its simplicity.
@@SMTMainline As far as I know they were the same, the only difference was the packaging and manuals. I do have a few old boxes and one made for the North American market. I am long overdue on taking the pictures but I can share them at some point if you are interested.
A train like that CN one with more baggage cars than passenger cars is actually prototypical. Mail Trains across the U.S. and Canada often had consists like this.
Yes, the "baggage" car really wasn't for passenger baggage, it was for fast mail, commercial shipping, etc...
Would three be common on a six car consist though?
@@SMTMainline Many Mail/Express trains had a single "rider coach' that carried passengers, but its primary job was to serve as a base of operations for the conductor Here's an ATSF example -
Trains 7 and 8, Fast Mail Express, were commodity trains, or express freight which included mail. The contract the Santa Fe had with the Post Office was to furnish transportation for all mail in the territory assigned. This meant Santa Fe had to haul all mail no matter how much. The same is true for express freight. The railroad is to provide cars to handle loads no matter the quantity, so the train could never be the same from day to day. There were some regular cars and RPO cars, but even that could vary depending on demand. In addition, mail and express cars coming from other railroads were added to these trains. Trans 7 and 8 were also used to deadhead passenger equipment from various terminals as needed. By law, a rider car had to be attached so that any paying passenger could ride.
Trains 7 and 8, Fast Mail Express, were commodity trains, or express freight which included mail. The contract the Santa Fe had with the Post Office was to furnish transportation for all mail in the territory assigned. This meant Santa Fe had to haul all mail no matter how much. The same is true for express freight. The railroad is to provide cars to handle loads no matter the quantity, so the train could never be the same from day to day. There were some regular cars and RPO cars, but even that could vary depending on demand. In addition, mail and express cars coming from other railroads were added to these trains. Trans 7 and 8 were also used to deadhead passenger equipment from various terminals as needed. By law, a rider car had to be attached so that any paying passenger could rid
Starting in the early 1950s, the Erie ran a pair of typical mail trains, Nos. 7 and 8, that continued after the October 1960 Erie-Lackawanna merger. An article in the January 1984 Trains magazine included the photo above of westbound train No. 7 at Binghamton, N.Y., in 1965.
The mixture of cars in No. 7’s consist shows the full range of mixed car types likely to appear in mail and express trains. Interestingly, the E-L timetable of the period noted “This train is primarily for mail, express, and baggage but has a New York-to-Chicago coach for use of passengers.” Passengers who wanted to ride it could look forward to a 25-hour trip that started and ended in the wee hours of the day. If the train was operating on time, three of No. 7’s stops were at stations with restaurants that could supply “snacks” around mealtimes during the long trip.
Sealed through cars were used by both the post office and REA during busy times. These baggage or storage mail cars were loaded in one city, closed and locked (sealed), moved to a destination, and then switched out and spotted for unloading. The post office commonly used sealed through baggage cars to transport presorted consumer magazines from publishers to distant cities for faster distribution.
Railroads that handled large amounts of head-end traffic often operated scheduled mail and express (M&E) trains. In the 1960s, the New York Central’s mainline M&E train often had up to 35 cars pulled by four E units. These dedicated trains reduced the station times for the regular passenger trains. Hauling full carloads of mail and express between major cities was more efficient, as switching cars in or out of the train was faster than waiting for the hand transfers.
Operating at passenger speeds, these trains made great time between intermediate stops. However, it wasn’t unusual for them to sit for a half-hour or more while the manual transfers of mail and express took place at smaller stops.
Some railroads and REA tried container systems and piggyback trailers to improve efficiency. However, any flatcars used in these systems had to be fitted with approved high-speed trucks and steam, air brake, and signal lines for use in passenger trains.
In any case, the RPO cars usually stayed on their home railroad’s normal routes, while sealed through baggage and mail storage cars could travel almost anywhere. Running a through baggage car from another railroad wouldn’t be unusual and could add an interesting bit of color to your railroad’s M&E train.
2:01 Central Valley trucks were once considered " state of the art ". CV is also the same California company located in the Central Valley that came up with the first 150 ' Pratt Truss bridge kit in ho scale plastic many years ago. They " bridged " out , pardon the pun, into 72' plate girder bridges. Their bridge kits have excellent detail. But those trucks are from the 1960's originally and were still selling through the 1980's with ads placed in Railroad Model Craftsman and you could also order them through William K. Walthers at that time. I got 4 pair of the fine-line roller bearing trucks with the narrow tread not too long ago to place under a Quality Craft Models GATX 96' jumbo whale belly tank car. They work flawlessly. Central Valley fine - line is very close to prototypical looking wheels.
I agree. Central Valley trucks were the best money could buy from the 1950's thru at least the early 1980's. Although no longer manufactured, they're still considered excellent quality.
The unique looking ALCO by Mehano is a C628 or an M636, 5 C628s were built for the Hamersley Iron in Australia. As for the M636s 12 were built and were built on site in Australia at AE Goodwin.
I agree. Did a quick search and indeed is an Australian Iron Ore company railroad. Looks like it is a C628 from what I could find.
P.S. from Wikipedia page for HI... "five Alco C-628 locomotives (2001-2005) were purchased in 1965-67, two being built in Schenectady in the United States and three by AE Goodwin in Sydney."
I was thinking it was a D.L.531
I never would have guessed it was supposed to be an Australian locomotive. I guess that explains why I hadn't seen one like it before.
Really cool.
Video to have the Canadian national steamwalk. More around with the with some cars. And by the way, if you're listening to this I want all of the stuff that is in the box and I just wanted for free. I cause I would like my own projects. Thank you.
@@SMTMainlineyour first Australian , the Blue BHP Iron Ore locomotive from 14th June 2020 is another model from the isolated iron ore Railways in the far North West of Australia in the Pilbara iron ore mining region.
These are all built to class 1 US railroad standards and not able to run in any other parts of Australia.
A video search will show the iron ore trains running with six or more high power locomotives in a distributed power formation. This to cope with around 250 loaded iron ore cars giving a train weight of 25,000 tonnes.
Iron ore trains and track maintenance are the only trains you would see on these lines.
In such an isolated difficult desert style place to get to that very few people in Australia have seen them in person.
Only started with the newly discovered iron ore mines starting up in 1965.
World’s greatest hobby, hands down! Glad you had a good time and found some cool stuff at the train show.
The Smokey Joe has been combined with a Triang Nellie’s cab and frames, the frames should clip onto the plastic chassis and hold the “crosshead” in place
I think whatever was supposed to clip in is long gone unfortunately.
@@SMTMainline seeing as it has the Nellie frames, it won’t clip onto the Smokey chassis, would require some poking about to make it work, alternatively you could glue strips of plasticard over the tops of the cylinders and paint them to match
The British passenger car is a BR MRK1 in the grey and blue late BR livery(break car version theirs a break system aswell as a passenger comportment)that smoky joe engine could be repainted into a custom Hershey’s livery for the factory
The Big Pine Lumber loco is a Cox. There was a complete set made of these. I have the fire tank car and two tractor trailers from the set. The prices were actually quite good for that show. The multilevel car was definitely a good deal.
I had the set as well. I believe I still have the loco somewhere but it’s been over 40 years.
Enjoyed the shopping video...very relaxing and informative. I'm always interested in train junk box lots! Love looking thru them when I get them home! Thanks for the video.
I enjoy your video's, and I have been a subscriber for about 3 years and I have learned a lot from you on how to work on my locos so thank you. And keep it up
I definitely wouldn't be adverse to that little Pennsylvania 0-4-0ST. Been looking for some more unusual locos for my layout and an American loco in the UK is always a bit of a head turner
Oh wow, I’d love to see models at those prices in Australia! As an aside, from 2008-14, I was the workshop coordinator of Junee Railway Workshop (formerly Austrac), at the 1947-built 42 bay roundhouse in Junee, New South Wales, here in Australia. JRW owns 4836, as featured in model form by Powerline, now in your collection. It’s not in a matching box, as the candy livery was the post-1983 State Rail colour scheme of red, orange, and white. 4836 was a lovely loco, especially after we gave it a full rebuild.
Just for clarity, Austrac was an early private operator in NSW from 1993 when freight rail was corporatised and privatised. They bought three 48 class locos, painted them up as shown, and used them as rental motive power. Austrac became Junee Railway Workshop around 2000, and so remains today. Love your work, and your openness to the Aussie models.
Thanks for all the info!
Hamersley Iron was an iron ore company, who built the Hamersley & Robe River railway, to deliver iron ore from their mines in western Australia to Port Hedland. The main locos on the railroad were Alco C-628 - and they had five of them, numbered 2001-2005. They also owned 39 Alco C-636's, along with MLW ML-6636's. In 1978, they purchased 50 GE C36-7 locos.
I wouldn't have guessed. I unknowingly bought two Australian locomotives in the same haul lol
@@SMTMainline Unknowingly? Like you cared??? 😁
Look like flea markets in Canada are just as good in the USA
No, Hamersley Iron and Cliffs Robe River Iron Associates were two different companies. Hamersley Iron ran the line from Mount Tom Price to the port at Dampier (later extended to Paraburdoo), and the Robe River Railroad ran from Pannawonica to Cape Lambert. They may well be owned by the same mining company now.
There's always something good at a model train show! Good finds! The CN steamer looks right at home with the passenger cars.
An Alaska caboose!! They don't have those anymore. My dad worked for the ARR. I also live in alaska. The models are really expensive.
What a wonderful batch of locos you picked up! Looks like a lot of fun projects ahead.
I too would be interest in the box of miscellaneous. Very intrigued by the Biologique or whatever it said.
It was part of a PC train set from the 2000s. Great locomotives but the rolling stock was a bit strange.
Man I would love these videos. Absolutely fantastic since I don't get a lot of shows rolling through my area.
Also, I would love a box of random train stuff! I just restarted working on my layout with my son and could definitely use some bits and pieces to get going.
Sure thing
Great video. Ill take the trains if no else will.
I’ll take that random lot of trains you have
Great video some really cool finds. I would be interested in the box of stuff because I am helping my friends get his first train layout started
I would love to be in the running for the rolling stock. I am slowly rebuilding my set from when I was a kid.
Nice bunch of loot from the show! I love those heavyweight passenger cars, looking real snazzy! I'd also be interested in that lot you want to give away, lots of good parts and projects in there!
Train shows are the best place to find some really good deals. Not bad for the price. I really like the CN steamer with the roller stock. Sharp looking. Good vid. From Texas.
Rolling Stock, sorry.
Love all the new additions to the collection you picked up. As I am Australia, I also have a few powerline models, there are sort of the budget entry Australian model trains of todays time, before that it was whatever lima had to offer, or kits. I'm a British modeler, I would love that Hornby break down crane you have in the box if no one else wants it!
The Japanese steam loco could be a Ken Kidder brass model.. They made a few different types.
I would appreciate anything like tinkering around with model trains and thank you for having your channel, Mike
You're in the draw :)
@@SMTMainline Thank you I got started a little late in the hobby but I did aquire two Tri-ang locos one is I believe a R55 diesel beautiful runner but I'm like you someone says they don't run and I like to make them run gives something to do since I'm retired and have a nice and safe day, Mike
Always a sucker for a deal, lol....I'm game for the freebie box. Nice haul, btw.
Central Valley trucks were the premier line of add on trucks for passenger and rolling stock. Buy everyone you can find if < $25. They add weight and roll freely with a little graphite lub/aka car door lock deicer.
Passenger consists would carry several baggage/package (think FedEx) cars at the head end as these were the true revenue producers for each train.
The "Pine Lumber" GP9 is mid 70's from Cox Mfg. They did a brief foray into HO. The loco mold still exists today as the Walthers GP9m.
Your GO addiction is showing 😉.
That's good to know, as mentioned I had never seen them before.
Free stuff is always great, I would love that box.
free stuff wouldnt hurt😆
@@bryanwong9544 I agree with both of yall 😁🚅
I found the hog warts express interesting as I just bought one in a lot so I’ll probably repaint mine into GWR colors. I can’t wait to see you fix those locos.
That 48 class is a bute! They easily go for 150-200 Australian dollars in box and some of them are certainly getting old. And yeah, as you said they have pretty weird gear ratios. All of them do. In terms of Australian locomotives for the price you cant get much better.
As for the miscellaneous leftovers some of that stuff is actually pretty cool for a train fan in Australia, 0-4-0's especially are very very hard to find and when they sell they go for heaps for what they're worth.
So yeah, if nobody else will i'd gladly take it off your hands, the only issue is shipping which will be a nightmare.
The shipping alone probably makes the Class 48 worth it. Trying to import stuff is crazy expensive.
@@SMTMainline yeah you're spot on
Great video SMT Mainline. You are one of my favorite TH-camrs. I started model railroading alongside your videos. Since I am a beginner, I am quite interested in getting that box of model trains.
Thanks, you'll be entered in the draw.
Hey SMT, quite conveniently, I am looking for some items that I think I saw in the box! Great video as always!
Best of luck in the draw!
I just Love how the collection slowly grows, and more new and interesting locomotives are thrown into the mix. Love the videos, keep em coming!
The box of train stuff would go nice with my already growing collection of rolling stock and locomotives, I personally work on the old locomotives and cars that we get donated to our club. So it would be nice getting some more so we can put them to the kits that we are building for a way to get a younger audience into the hobby without blowing the bank.
Central Valley was THE truck to use back in the day!!! SNAG THOSE!!!!
id be interested in the box of miscellaneous model railroad stuff!
also great video as usual : )
I’ve gotten back into model trains thanks smt for bringing back me back to one of my favorite hobbies also great video man
I really want that box because I’m just getting in to model trains and am getting a 4x12 train table and I really need some cars for my train and I love your watching your videos for about a year have great day harry.
100% I would have bought that Australian loco, also I have never seen a spirit of 76 version of that switcher either... Another great train show haul!
Both great purchases, especially at $4 a piece.
You got some really cool finds. I also watched a video showing the Medina Railroad Museum in western new york indoor Ho layout is 200 feet long and 14 feet wide definitely road trip worthy
great stuff as usual harrison! I really enjoy watching your train show tours and hauls. i am interested in a couple of things in that box of stuff 👍
Love your take on train shows. I just went to one this past weekend and my take was equally a mixed bag. And yes, I love the challenge of a project and would be interested in finding your 'free box of stuff' a good home.
I like that steam engine genuinely nice I would like that one and it would my first ho😁i know their is a unlikely chance I get it but it would cool because me and my friend are into ho and we like that stuff so keep up the good vids
Good luck!
@@SMTMainline thanks!!
The Canadian National coaches look great with your locomotive. Well done.
@ 2:00 Central Valley trucks were SUPER QUALITY!!!!!! The Kadee of the 1960s.
Missed out on this clip. The difference in the cost of stuff between yourselves and this part of the world is night and day. Love the junk😊
Another great video. I really like to see 6401 with a proper train and I thing this consist is pretty good for a mail train run which was back in the day pretty common.
Thank you very much!
At 6:44 that motor is identical to the one i have, its a 3 pole motor which is sort of like a riverrossi motor. That box at the end looks cool, im honestly intrested in it, great video! Keep it up!!!
Dear SMT, nice train show haul. Some great projects to look forward to! Curious how you will handle the Smokey Joe and the Potter one. Also looking forward to your TLC on the all metal Japanese loco and the Mehano one. Love the Canadian passenger consist. I’m interested in the draw, if only to improve my weathering and airbrushing skills. Don’t know if you consider European addresses for draw participation, guess we should be able to figure that out. On our last visit to see family in the States I found a shipping company which still offers sea shipping for small items at a very reasonable rate, so that shouldn’t be a problem as far as I’m concerned. Cheerio
Apparently it was supposed to be Percy from Thomas. I'm personally not big on trains with faces but maybe I could just make it a green 0-4-0? I'm not sure where I want to take the project.
That Powerline 48 class what a find! Australian locomotives are really difficult to find overseas so if you see one at a shop or exhibition buy it. Looks to be in really good condition too. I recon a bit of oil and it should run a lot quieter and smoother.
I’d love to get my hands on the box of trains! I’m teaching myself more about making custom models and the trucks would come in handy, and who doesn’t love a good new loco to run on their layout.
I’d love to get my hands on the leftovers box - that would help me with my meager loco and rolling stock inventory on my layout!
Would love to see if I can channel my inner smt and get any of those small lococs running.
Looks like a great show! The three baggage cars isn’t completely unheard of because at one point or another, most passenger trains ended up relying more on the mail and less than car loads freight to stay afloat. This often lead to more baggage cars than coaches. Or think of it as a train of city folk heading to the mountains for a trip and extra baggage cars were needed for their equipment.😂
That's a good point
Can't wait for the new projects SMT. Also, I like the idea of adding some variety over here with that box of stuff, so might as well try
I’d be interested in entering a drawing for that box of stuff, and I love those new passenger cars!
Sure thing.
Nice haul of stuff, the vise seems like it was a really great deal. I recently got a similar one, and it’s been a huge help on a lot of projects. I’m always down for more projects, but as unlikely as it is, that box would make for some good ones.
Hey harrison, if your looking for a train show to go to here in the states, i recommend the Madcity Train Show in February. I tend to go to the show on the opening Saturday but being i am probably going with the train club this time around, i'm probably going to be there both days
Great video as usual, I would be interested in the give away items as I wish to break away from the UK stuff and start running trains from USA/Canada. Keep making the videos they are great.
Sure thing
Smt I am just starting to build my very first ho scale layout and more rolling stock can go a long way and you are the one who got me back into this hobby
That's awesome, thanks for letting me know.
It's great to see another Australian engine add to the collection
It is good to see you have two locos from Australia. One from the highly populated East side, and the other from the sparsely populated North part of West Australia.
48 class is, of course, a New South Wales workhorse and amongst the few locomotive classes still operating that had been built and operated by the NSW Government before freight was privatised. 81, 82 and 90 class are the others. The box says "Candy" livery which was introduced in 1982 for NSW Govt locos but the model you have there is a different livery.
0:00 looking at that, reminded me of one of the museums in my town
The box of train parts look like fun projects, would love to have a shot at working on them 🚂
its always cool to go to these shows and see what others have as they can have unique and rare items, i'm also interested in that 3 stuff (the best kind of free:)
My Wife And I Go to At Least 2 shows a Year. One in Oct Then In Feb and Yes We Love Goin to them we Get Good Deals.
The British rolling stock you're giving away could go well with my collection as I like to work on second hand rolling stock.
MEN LOOK THE GREAT TRAIN MASTER HAS POSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But seriously keep up the good work Harrison, love your videos!❤️❤️❤️
My son is interested in going in the draw. We loved your video.
Sure thing, best of luck!
Hey Smt very nice Canadian Pacific passenger cars and locomotive! I went to a train show about a month ago and found some CP passengers that look about the same just not heavyweight. Overall I’d say you did really well with that train show! Rip British N scale though😂
Thanks for the video looking forward to the follow up video with repairs. Put me down for the "box o' trains". Enjoy your channel
Great video SMT! I look forward to seeing the N Scale engine run again!
I have a N scale set Iv'e had for 30 years but never ever really used because it was so fragile. Now I am an old fart heading into 2nd childhood. HO scale seems to be more forgiving. Iv'e learned a lot watching your channel. It has helped me greatly with my first table set up. I have lived a life of self control and tolerance. Now I find that I have become addicted to something....
The hardest step seems to be to make the decision to solder it all together. I could really kit bash/ frankenstein with that mess. Mad Max material for one end of the table.
Leaving some gaps can be good for the changing of the seasons but generally I find soldering joiners leads to better reliability.
@@SMTMainline Definitely, but I was referring to that feeling of "point of no return" Fortunately I can solder a rainy day. I Ran a TV / consumer electronics repair shop for 30 years. That Iron you use gives me chills every time I see you use it on a wire lol. I had one at the shop like that I rarely used. We called it "goliath". On and off quick, works well soldering track I'm sure.
Thank you for your channel, watching you got me started back in the hobby I enjoyed in the 80s! I am slowly building up supplies for a future layout. Please include me in the draw if I am not too late. Many Thanks, Mike
Great video and a very nice haul. The Canadian passenger and baggage coaches look quite impressive with the steam locomotive. 👍
Thank you very much!
Harrison I love your Channel I just got back into the hobby after being out of it for almost 20 years it’s great seeing you fix things and learning new techniques keep up the awesome work!
It means a lot to hear the videos are helpful. Welcome back to the hobby!
@@SMTMainline thanks and it’s great now to have my own adult money to spend on the hobby instead of relying on my allowance as a kid lmao so excited to be back!
Powerline used to make infill pieces for the pilots on the 48 class that not only filled in the big rectangular ooenings, but also provided mounting pads for Kadee drawgear.
the Smokey Joe bodge was someone's attempt at making a model of Percy from Thomas the Tank Engine. I'd say give it a good coat of bright green! I'd never stare a gift horse in the eye and say no, so I'd gladly take the stuff you couldn't sell. I'm sure I can load them up full of lead and put nice new wheels and trucks to make them great.
I can see it now, thanks for the idea
I really like and appreciate your cite. Its funto watch you work with the trains and repair them. I especially enjoyed the video of the repair to Gramas train.
I believe the little steam locomotive is a Ken Kidder product (circa 1965). Ken Kidder was a somewhat cheaper importer of models from Japan-American prototypes produced in Japan.
The cab on that Smokey Joe kit-bash is from a Tri-ang Nellie 0-4-0.
Central Valley manufactured freight cars and trucks from the late 1940s on-I don't know if or when they stopped trading.
Man I wish I had train shows local to me but there aren’t any within a few hours drive unfortunately. The Bachman consolation unit(great northern) is one my mom’s favorite train to run. I love these videos, so much fun to watch. There were some cool looking rolling stock so I would be interested in entering the draw.
No problem
Hi SMT Mainline & it's is Randy and i like yours video is Cool & Thanks SMT Mainline & Friends Randy
Central Valley Model Works was originally founded by George Hook in 1947. I was given one of his personal boxcars with his name on the bottom; it was made for third rail HO scale track, so the wheels are uninsulated and would short out a regular HO Scale layout. I donated it to the Cleburne Railroad Museum, which has it on display in their display case.
Thanks for sharing
Hammersly Iron. Had their own railway to transport Iron Ore to the Port in North West Australia.
Interesting fact. They actually owned the GWR steam locomotive. Pendennis Castle from the UK. Which they used to run family days trips for their employees.
It caught up with Flying Scotsman on its visit to Australia and ran several trips around Perth.
Its now been donated back to the Great Western Society in the UK.
The rolling stock looks awesome! 😉
6:25 That little 0-4-0ST was made from a Hornby Smokey Joe and a Triang 'Nellie' 0-4-0, but you CAN NOT convince me that it's not a RWS Percy the Small Engine WIP. it has all the details and shape!
I am also interested in that box of oddities!
The little 0-4-0 is an old brass model. It is a Ken kidder and they were made in the early 1960’s
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I would love some of this stuff Harrison please and thank you you do such a great job ❤❤
4836 - it carried the 125th Anniversary of NSW Railways livery(the now preserved 42 class 4201 also and still wears that livery)
I think one of the CN Baggage cars is suppose to be a Mail car, also I gotta think about the railcar giveaway.
My thoughts exactly
It could be a R. Rail P. post O. Office car, I have one
Nice haul! I would really like that old HO tank engine!
Count me in for the box o' free stuff. Otherwise, I have to say I'm jealous of those Canadian prices! I watched this just a day after going to the Greenberg Train Show in Oaks, PA, and the cheapest I could find were engines priced at $20 USD each. Big difference! Maybe I can convince my wife that the travel tickets to north of the border will be offset by the lower train show prices.
Most Canadian train shows are not this well priced but the OVAR flea market usually consists of people who aren't usually vendors and just want to get rid of stuff rather than turn a good profit.
The Mehano engine is pretty interesting, the box is very unique
Hi, this English N scale locomotive is most likely a Class 86. Regards Daniel from takie sobie h0
Train shows are the best place to get good deals I went to on this Saturday and got my second dcc train
Really nice fines Harrison, hope you get the locomotives and Rollingstock to work! I would like the box too. But it’s fine if not still loved the video
Wow...Nice haul...seems like you find better deals than I have been seeing around the Chicago area...I'd also like to throw my hat in the ring for the giveaway...looks like there are some good pieces and parts in there...
Rich...
Most Canadian train shows aren't this cheap but many people at this one are just trying to get rid of stuff which helps a lot.
Ahh, Mehanotehnika
Did they have special kinds for the Yugoslavian market or just sell what they were making for the Ameri-Cananadian markets? I've always liked the brand for its simplicity.
@@SMTMainline As far as I know they were the same, the only difference was the packaging and manuals. I do have a few old boxes and one made for the North American market. I am long overdue on taking the pictures but I can share them at some point if you are interested.
great episode Harrison with aloha
I am interested in any of the stuff! Great video. Love your content, as always.
Awesome! Thank you!