Story 5: you know what got me the most, they suggested the 12 year old helping vs the dad just getting up in the mornings to feed his own children. The 12 year old is not the parent, he is! I'm sorry but he's not an attentive parent.
@@lauriane2784 He legit sounds like the laziest parent. He just wants to hand them an iPad and eff off. He can’t even be bothered to make them a proper meal
Story 5 : When it comes to single parent father households they get help automatically without even asking as people around assume they need help and when it comes to women they are assumed to just do all the work there is really a lot of mental load and responsibility women are assumed to just own to.
This, exactly what I was thinking. Not to mention, in a lot of areas there are still stigmas against single moms, which can make it way harder for them to get help even if they were to ask.
EXACTLY! men are infantilized when it comes to child care, women have to do it all. These studies are important bc they inform our knowledge regarding single parent homes, but the information is useless if we don't understand the underlying cause of why one parent gets more help, which is based in misogyny
And who did he list as people who help single dads? Aunts, sisters, grandmas...all women. They're not helping single moms because they're helping the incompetent men in their lives.
@@s3v3n3leven If she’s overworked then isn’t telling her to do less a good thing He just wants her to chill out a bit nothing wrong with being a bit lazy It’s not neglectful it’s just stress free Stress is bad Remove the stress and you will be more productive later on It’s called self induced hibernation Everyone always complains that they gotta get up and do something I’m with the dad a bit Just don’t no one is making you Y’all are just doing more than you have to and making your lives exponentially more difficult for no reason
@@madnessarcade7447 It doesn't work like this. You can't simply just stop parenting to reduce stress, within reason you absolutely can but you cannot just stop getting up with young children and let them do it themselves, unless you are physically at work and this is the only way you can do things. If you're at home, get up and help your children.
People differ, so I think anecdotal situations aren't the best way to go about this. Like in my own upbringing, I was mostly left to do everything independently, and I don't feel neglected or that my parents are bad. But my younger brother needs more attention and hugs, or he feels that something is wrong. Also, just saying, as it relates to the parent being home vs. them being at work, if you aren't comfortable with them doing it alone when you're there, don't expect the kid to understand your circumstances just because you have work. Loneliness is loneliness. If you wanted kids, it looks like it's time for a job change (even though it might be hard). You're sticking to your principles, so make sure you are present to uphold them.
While this is a large generalization, it's so sad that moms often end up being the "annoying" or "strict" parent because they take on a majority of the mental load. At the same time, the dads end up being the "fun" or "easygoing" parent because they're just riding on the work their wife does. I feel so bad about viewing my mom this way growing up now that I'm an adult. I had to teach my dad how to cook a f*cking egg when my mom was sick.
Yessss and then the fathers complain that the mother is a nag or too up tight. As the story says “she needs to lower her standards” but really majority of the time it’s the fact that the other person needs to raise their standards of what they consider good parenting or being a good partner. No wonder the mother in this story was so stressed she’s trying to do these incredible things to mold her kids minds into healthy happy adults and her husband doesn’t even see purpose in it. So of course she feels the need to take it all on her shoulders and over compensate for his lack of parenting. I see so much of myself in her because a lot of times my past partners would say I’m a “perfectionist” but really I just was raised well and like to do things the correct way. I don’t even have kids and I could see this becoming a problem in my own life. When becoming a spouse and parent you have to learn to be selfless sometimes and if something matters to your partner you help them do it because it’s for the best of the entire family. His laziness really showed through in the way he spoke about his wife and young children saying “they can just do it by themselves” sure maybe they could but they shouldn’t have to. They are kids and deserve parents who care enough to wake up and help them get ready in the morning for school especially when still in elementary. My mother always did that for me and I remember that even as an adult. My father however I could not remember a single morning of him waking me up for school making sure I was on the bus, making sure I had lunch money. None of it, we need to stop excusing fathers of absent parenting just because in most traditional families they end up as the financial provider.
@@diylayne55 I had a similar upbringing. Like I couldn't get my tax return for a few years when I was in high school because my dad helped me fill it out and he put the wrong birthday. It's basic shit like this they can't even figure out.
Personal experience says thus is bullshit. Just like I tell their mom - calm the fuck down, and they'll listen. There's a reason I get called over to have them do something, and am still the "fun" parent. You're just doing it wrong.
The problem is they have two different parenting styles. She wants the kids to depend on her because she is "mommy", but he is more alright with the kids being independent because of their big age.
@@an_oracle legit they should meet halfway, she needs to chill out, shes kind of being extremely strict and the kids will become sneakier. he needs to get up and make breakfast for his kids and put his foot down too at times
Story 5: That OP is the AH. The reason his wife is strict is because he's slacking and she has to make up the difference. 99 times out of 100, when there is an imbalanced level of strictness, it is a polarizing, recursive effect. If the slacker steps up, the stricter one gets an opportunity to relax. But, if the stricter one relaxes first, the slacker just lets everything fall apart and then blames their spouse for slacking.
Something I found out recently is in America most parmesan cheese that’s in those bottles that people sprinkle on spaghetti and stuff also has sawdust mixed into it.
He is not being a present father, but on some things he isn't totally wrong. On some yes, 100%, he needs to get up in the morning for example. It's good for kids to be able to get ready for school in time but you need to teach them, not just leave them alone and hope they will figure it out. But for other thing, this mother reminds me of mine... and she would create very stressful situations (forcing me and my sister to do activities toghether because "that's what a family do", or wanting us to spend a certain amount of hours on homeworks, when I needed way less time and my sister needed more breaks to do well). At my father's house we were never neglected. If we asked, he was always happy do to activities with us and always ready to help with homeworks but he was definitely more relaxed and while I know my mother had my best interest in mind she was doing things in a way that didn't work for us
Story 5: As a kid I was expected to look after myself from 7/8. I washed and ironed my school clothes, made lunch, checked my own homework. As my little sister(2 years younger) started school her stuff was my responsibility as well. I was responsible for cooking dinner by 12, then laundry, garden work, cleaning the house. It was a lot for me, I became a very anxious child because of it. This is triggering that a father is complaining about the basics of parenthood and thinking his wife should relax and let their kids fend for themselves at 8!
Do you feel like having children yourself after pretty much raising your younger sister? I am 10y apart from my brother. I remember bathing him, babysitting him, his teeth coming out and him screaming the fuck for hours, bringing him from kindergarten instead of spending time with friends in afterschool activities etc. and I believe this is one of the main contributing factors I despise children and want none. 🤔
As a mom, story number 5 hurts. Your kids need you to be involved. If you can’t do that don’t have kids. It’s not even “wanting to be a super mom”. Mom guilt is SO REAL! You know what your kids need, you ask for help, and you’re “doing too much”. It’s not your 12 year olds job to pick up the slack. It’s your co-parents job to PARENT with you.
Not just Mom Guilt, cuz other moms judge you hard too (sometimes your own family). I know what it's like, so when I meet other single moms, I just let them mess up in a safe space.
Story 5 made me 😡. Absolutely a happy Mom is way important, but why dad would rather convince Mom to step down with him, over him stepping up occasionally* to assist her with the mental load? He sees her struggling and instead of “I got it babe” it’s, “join me in not participating.” It’s hard to believe that he is as involved as he claims when she’s so exhausted and he’s criticizing all that she does and justifying all that he’s not. There are many two parent households with only one parent parenting.
Right, a tiny bit of compromise where they have one "cereal day" and "dad day" in the morning; and AT LEAST one dad evening where he plays with\entertains the kids could make a HUGE improvement in her life without sacrificing quality of life for the kids
Also no one in this video has experience with kids but imma say it an EIGHT YEAR OLD?? Getting themself ready for school and waking themselves up?? A SECOND GRADER???? Dads a fucking psycho if he thinks that’s happening
Exactly, a ten year old MIGHT get everything done by themselves but an 8 year old will still need help. & even then, some younger kids might be more self-sufficient than the older kids…. Regardless, kids are kids & require some supervision. Plus, I’m pretty sure kids are happy to get a nice kiss goodbye from mom & dad before hopping onto the bus! This dad is delusional
Nope, they’re wrong about the study regarding single parents. The study says that single dads have more success because ppl are more likely to OFFER help than single mothers. Ppl don’t offer help to single mothers, that’s the reason for the discrepancy, not because single mothers are less likely to accept help. Single mothers NEED help, that’s the whole point of the study.
They also tend to be older and higher paid. I haven't found any peer reviewed studies that show the children of single fathers are better off than children raised by single mothers. But damn, more help and more money, I wouldn't be surprised.
I knew as soon as they said better off I was like mm I bet that's a load of bs, I bet men are offered more help because people around them care and want to help and possibly also enable crappy parenting so rather than call them out they just help.
Well maybe its different in different countries but Here they would be classed as correct because the Government offer more help to Women then Men especially if its within “housing” because they believe “You are a man and can fend for yourself”
@@franksnbeans7413they are, most criminals are from single mother homes, most people that also commit suicide are from single mother homes, most men that become deadbeats are also from single mother homes
@@Rysco_creationsif you could think critically for a second you'd also be able to correlate that single mothers are usually on a lower income, in more deprived areas, have usually had to miss further education, are usually young themselves and/or impressionable and have less support and social stigma. So, it makes sense that children in that environment fair less than 2parent households or single father households where many of the issues take place. Not to mention that there are significantly more single mothers than there are single fathers. It also doesn't account for the absent fathers lack of accountability. But like I said it requires critical thinking to acknowledge these things....
And not just for any nostalgia or anything, but because the sex was better… Like, my wife is dying and she wants to sleep with her ex because he’s a better lay than me. I would never recover.
It might be just sex for her, but it wasn't an innocent comment for him. And that's valid. Unfortunately, she won't have to live with it, knowing that for the duration of their marriage, she still felt that her ex was the best sex she's had, felt it so strongly that its her actual dying wish. That's gonna taint so many memories for him. Her husband is going to live with that statement and deal with the inherent insecurity that comes with a statement like that. It's not just sex for her current husband. The supposed love of his life is dying, and she wants to go have sex with an ex (assuming the ex is down). I'd be heartbroken.
Story 5 has me fuming. Everything he described just sounded like she was trying to be a good mom and he didn’t want to be a parent. The fact he said lower her standards vs. helping out… WILD
Not really, his concern was that she's stressing herself out trying to have it all her way. Kids that grow up with parents that are in a chronic bad mood and need to have it all their way just scare their kids.
She’s trying to enrich the lives of her children, ensure that they feel loved and cared for, that they aren’t neglected, that they have varied interests and nutritionally complete meals. None of those are bad things and all of those things should be supported by her partner. I think the mistake she made was choosing to have children with someone who has a vastly different outlook on parenting than she does
@@lauriane2784 Yeah, you all didn't listen the story 😆 Don't even remember how she stresses the kids or that the title was just about him trying to make her less overwhelmed 🤣
Story 5: I can't help but imagine the dad to be the type to play with the kids till they're hyper, wreck the house and then rest while the mum tries to stay afloat and he thinks he's winning at parenthood
Story 5: as a teacher, I love what the mom is doing and the dad should definitely step up more. Since covid, a lot of parents have had the dads attitude and it has made teaching wayyyyyy harder. The amount of behaviors in schools now is insane. Kids are used to getting their way at home, being on technology 24/7, and have a lack of boundaries. Cereal doesn’t fill them up and then they spend the morning more focused on being hungry instead of learning. Kids need structure.
Story 5: This mom’s rules and seeing the kids off to school are the bare minimum parenting. For that man to claim he’s an “engaged father” is a complete delusion! 2 hours of screen time on a school day is a lot already!
Right?!?! The fact that he wants them watching tv until it’s their bedtime, meaning he doesn’t want to spend time with them.. it’s the “easier” way, they will be entertained the whole time. $hitt¥ father
Agreed ! Dads are always so quick to stick a kid in front of a tv then go on their phones or play video games! That standard NEEDS to be held to the same level as women, they don’t get the pressure because it’s only on us !
I am a mum and I'm 100% like that husband! I am an evening person so usually the kids (5 and 6) dress and eat themselves, then I do myself up, get them to kindie/school and go to work. My husband is often more hands on - he helps them find socks and hats, toasts bread and pours milk. If he's not there or he's sleeping, they do it alone. During my 6 years of parenting, I've made breakfast only occasionally on Sundays (smoothie and pancakes). What comes to screen time, if I'm busy, I try to use screens when possible, but not after 8 pm. Sometimes I tell them to close it and encourage to start games and outdoor activities now and then. Kids almost never spend 2 hours a day on screens. My kids are smart, independent, polite, caring, like cooking, listen to what I say. We spend time together. I often take them to longer trips, shops, work or friends, but rarely to zoos or parks. I think the husband definitely has a point! Why get a migraine and spoil my day, if mornings are just not my thing?
Story 5- "engaged for you is going" is such an accurate statement. It reminds me of all the videos of Mom's trying to wrangle kids in a restaurant, getting their food cut and ready, while Dad enjoys his meal and is done before Mom even gets to start. They would both describe their night as "having dinner with the family."
I dont remember who but heard someone saying now they understand why in the three bears song the father bear’s food was hot while the mother’s was cold, and the kid’s was warm, it was coz it’s always the mum trying to cool the kid’s food and feed them that her own gets cold, while the father always enjoys his food hot/freshly made..
Story 5: as the oldest, I didn’t make those kids, if mom needs help dad is there! That’s what the second parent is there for! Don’t be a single mom with a husband 😒
As a child whose mother stopped waking up with me for a 7:25 bus stop, at 8 years old. It sucked. I felt so alone 🥺 so OPs wife is doing a kick ass job
But did you have siblings? Because my parents did the same for me early on and I didn't feel that because I have 2 brothers and we all got up early and did our stuff and we walked to school together. So it was not lonely
Exactly! Not to mention one has adhd cereal 🥣 isn’t going help with that. A proper meal would definitely improve the child’s day. Dad is being to lazy for sure and not taking in everything mom is saying at a whole.
story #5 absolutely baffled me. 8 years old is literally 1st/2nd grade...you expect a 2nd grader to wake up and make their own breakfast and send themselves off to school? and then to pin the responsibility of getting the younger children ready onto the oldest child? that's insane....they're a child themselves it shouldn't be their responsibility. i wish men could experience a world without women for 24 hours so we wouldn't get delusional takes like this anymore 😐
8 is 3rd grade. First grade would be age 6, just so you know. That aside, I agree. Even when we made ourselves instant oatmeal or cereal for breakfast, my parents, especially my dad, was getting us up, making sure we brushed our teeth/washed faces, and that we actually made and ate breakfast if he didn't make it. By high school he didn't have to wake us up, but he at least checked to see that we did get up to start getting ready and had our stuff to head out of the door. Mom made sure our hair was still fresh and our clothes were ironed at that age. Just a hug and kiss from your parents out of the door is so important because things happen and that may be the last time you see each other. And we never left the house alone prior to high school. Had to walk with siblings, other kids, or a parent.
I actually think it’s pretty pathetic if your kid can’t get ready for school at the age of 12, maybe that’s cos of the way I had to grow up, but I think that’s so extra, I was cooking dinner for my brothers and sisters at 12 years old, maybe it’s a silver spoon thing idk
Y'all missed the point of that story. The dad's concerns wasn't about breakfast, it was about his wife stressing herself and everyone else out trying to have everything her way and even then sulking, like he said about her insisting on going out every weekend but then being annoyed the youngest one gets in a mood when he's tired.
It scares me how the guys saw no issue with the dad in story 5. Having kids feels like such a huge risk because you don’t know how your partner is going to be. It makes me sad for the wife
i think scary would be a little far, more disappointing. I don't expect most men to understand women because we don't really understand them either lmao jokes aside tho, good, and supportive men who were raised right are out there. Some guys just cant accept the level of responsibility that comes with having children 🙅♀
I mean I agree the dude can definitely do more but at the same time alot of the comments on this topic are so linear and people be assuming things so many variables not being accounted for its kinda crazy
I think it has more to do with them not having that help as kids so it seems as if the mom was doing too much at first but also op’s wording kind of skewed the situation in his favor at first
Yeah, babies spit up a lot for the first few months, but the whole fiasco could've been avoided by the parents not handing the baby to the bride in the first place. But also, as a parent myself it wouldn't have occurred to me to be offended that the couple planned an extra day so I could celebrate with them, official ceremony or not.
What gets me about the wedding one is this - those family members believed this was her real wedding and they let their kids go wild to the point one of them puked on her dress and someone even commented “you’re taking this well” as if it was a surprise. Considering this, I’m sure OP knew exactly how these people were and how out of control their kids were going to be (because their parents weren’t going to stop it, it seems), and they planned accordingly. I don’t blame people for being upset, but I don’t blame OP at all, either
I agreed! And I was also thinking what’s the difference between their “fake” wedding and renewal of vows? In my books it the same thing. The couple committed their lives together and shared vows; is that not enough for people? Plus couples who have family in different countries have two weddings too; again I don’t understand what the big deal is.
@@TaratheEnchantress exactly! Honestly I think they’re just offended because they were basically deemed to be too unruly for the “real thing“ but they kind of did it to themselves
You know how I know that dad isn’t doing his fair share in the 5th story? I have a son (he’s 19 now) who has adhd (I do too) and up until high school I had to make sure he got himself ready and out the door on time. In my case, I was a single parent. I had help thankfully from my parents, but getting him up and out the door could be so stressful if I just let him do his thing because ADHD and executive function are at odds in the brain. I had to make sure he did all the steps to get ready…I’m talking getting him refocused to brush his teeth, brush his hair, change clothes, etc. because he’d get so distracted so easily even with medication. This dad is sleeping in and missing that part of the equation. His wife may seem snappy and irritable, rigid (and she may be on some of it!) but it sounds like exactly what Morgan said..there’s no compromise or offer to help. He just wants to skirt on by doing the fun dad bit.
My sister have ADHD(the type most common for girls), and when we were kids(at least 12), she could do all the things in the morning, but she need more time to do things than I would. My mom and dad was up and making sure, we was ready at the right time. So if my sister needed it, there were help, but we were both very independent in the morning in general. But this was when we had become teenagers, before that it was our parents who made sure things was done in the morning, else at least I would still be sitting watching tv without being ready, when it was time to go.
Yeah my brother and I both had undiagnosed ADHD and needed different types of help leaving in the morning. I have terrible time blindness, so even though I knew how to do all the things to get out the door, I could get stuck on a step for too long without realizing it, so my parents helped me learn how to be more time aware and make sure I was getting things done by the right time. My brother on the other hand needed to be told all the steps otherwise he would forget a lot of them. There is no way that he or I could have gotten ourselves to school by ourselves until our later teens to be honest. I also think that this is not a crazy thing to ask a Dad to get their child do. It isn't some extra crazy step. It's the bare minimum. My Dad used to wake up and make us our eggs and cut up some fresh fruit even when we were in high school. My Mom would be helping my brother through his morning routine while he did that and then we'd quickly eat together. My Dad wasn't really and to do a lot of other cooking for other meals, but he was great at making eggs so he took full ownership of that meal 7 days a week. Having parents who are helping you start your day is really lovely if it's a possibility.
that's such a great point tbh, the kid just may need the help - The dad doesn't want to find out tbh And I don't think the mum's making all this shit up, eating cereal every day is NOT healthy at all! I dunno if that seems ok in the US because of culture but doctors for sure say it's not enough for children... She seems right in many points and I do think she seems rigid cause she has been the only parent here for a while, the dad doesn't take the morning responsabilities
Story 6. She literally heard Mario kart during their vows. People commended them on “how well they took the chaos” that means everyone agrees the wedding went to hell.
If my wedding had that many things go wrong and was that awful, you bet I'd do a private one where I ACTUALLY liked MY OWN wedding. The guests are coming FOR you. I agree.
Yeah I didn’t like their take on that story. If your parents are making you not have a child free wedding and it goes to chaos. I’d for sure have my own special day the way I wanted
Yeah those dumbass people would never of agreed if she told them it was a “for show” wedding. This is why my wedding was parents grandparents only nor my brother (an adult with kids) and my husbands brother (a kid at the time) wouldn’t of been able to come since it was a child free wedding. I couldn’t keep one brother out and allow my brother it seemed rude. Plus my sister-in-law would never of gone without her kids (not because shes the best mom because she needs attention on her) so my brother couldn’t of gone if the rest of them couldn’t.
I don't think she's a a-hole at all, even if she did a fake ceremony and reception, kids were happy and loved to be there in the moment and the families enjoyed themselves though I do think she could have told the parents and whoever was upset and didn't wanna come then it's their problem. She did her best to make everyone happy in a smart way, power to her.
Yeah...ngl, it's "mine" and my other half's day. I do not care about what other families want or what my parents want. I'm getting married our way, cause it's our day for the rest of our lives. Soo...I don't think that she's completely an asshole. I definitely wouldn't want kids at my wedding.
story 5: The children will see one day how much effort their mom put in for them every morning for school, i remember those key memories with my mom making me breakfast & listening to music in the car before school all while my dad was in bed every single morning, i appreciate my mom so much more the older i get for everything she sacrificed for me and my sisters, i hope the woman in the story gets that moment with her children one day because it sounds like she is an awesome mom who actually cares about her children’s well-being. As for the dad, if you didn’t sign up to be awake at 6:45 every morning for your children then you shouldn’t have been a father. Does he think she enjoys waking up that early every morning? Parenting never works when one is good cop and the other is bad cop. It sounds like he doesn’t respect her or her parenting style. I’m so sick of some people becoming parents and not want to parent
Nothing that the mom in story 5 was doing sounds like “High standards.” Making sure the kids have breakfast and get on the bus. Limiting screen time and making sure they get out of the house (I’m willing to bet she’s not planning this for every weekend either like the poster is implying). This is all pretty day-to-day parenting. I don’t see where they are getting that she is criticizing him for doing things wrong either. She seems more upset that he’s not doing anything to back her up.
The parenting story shows the problem with men these days. The mom is trying to get the kids out of the house to tire them out because then they won’t go to bed if they aren’t tired. If the kids don’t go to bed, the dad isn’t going to be the one handling that. I have an 8 year old and if we don’t do something fun for at least 4-6 hours a day on a weekend, he is bouncing off the walls. They need stimulation, and it sounds like the dad doesn’t get it. And it’s really weird for the dad to not take their turn getting the kids up. All of the responsibility falls on the mom, which is not ok if there’s a dad in the house. Heck, my husband is my son’s step dad and he takes on a lot more responsibility than this dad.
I use to have just dance marathons with my niece just to do sis a favor and tire out the gremlin before bed. Yes kids have to learn how to entertain themselves but you can't resort to "I need you to play on your own while I do X" too often. They'll get bored and so attention starved they'll misbehave because bad attention is better than no attention.
For the wedding story, I am totally on the side of the bride. I know that a lot of commenters were talking about how communication was important, and how it was awful that the bride deceived them, but this was a situation where clearly the family did not respect the bride’s boundaries in the first place. Number one, the Mario kart music. They were letting their children play video games during the ceremony. That is really disrespectful, and if you actually cared and loved someone, you would actually honor the sacred moment of them being together and celebrating that. Number two, somebody at the wedding was giving out drinks to underage teenagers. That is a huge sign of disrespect, and also something that the bride and groom could’ve gotten in trouble for. If an emergency happened and the police had showed up and seen that, there is a possibility that the reception would’ve been shut down and people could’ve been arrested. Providing alcohol to underage people if it’s in the states, is illegal. Number three, the bride literally said that she wanted her wedding to be child free, but found out it would be a huge fight, and she didn’t wanna deal with it. If she had communicated her intention to have two ceremonies, I bet that would’ve been a huge fight too. This is a clear situation where clearly the bride wasn’t respected, and her wedding day was clearly not being honored by the family. Also, from what I understand, no one ever apologized to her for her dress getting messed up by the sick baby, and it sounds like they weren’t apologized to for the other chaos that happened. The bride was totally in the right here. 100% NTA. I think what she did was so clever, and she definitely went about it the right way. Honestly, this family kind of sounds like they suck. Throw the whole relatives away.
also they were saying how messed up it was that she tricked them with the priest etc, but the way i understood it was that they had a church wedding (the big one) and them a more private civil ceremony (where they sign the government papers), which i thought was fine?? lots of different cultures have multiple ceremonies, and i don’t know how common it if for christians but were i live people tend to do the religious ceremony with all the loved ones included and then a civil wedding that’s smaller (sometimes its just the bride, groom and their witnesses, that take a few hours to sign the government papers)
Yes! I’m surprised more people don’t agree. To me, this just shows how ENTITLED their friends and family are for feeling that they DESERVED to see the “REAL” ceremony. I don’t see how it matters either way. This solution should be seen as the one where everyone gets what they want. Unfortunately- some folks will be mad either way. If they weren’t complaining about this, they’d be complaining about something petty like the food.
honestly for me it all boils down to the day being for them and they’re not entitled to THEIR day. it’s their wedding. they can do with it as they please. they clearly knew people would be up their a** about it so they did the fake one to make them happy. they should be happy for them and happy they got to be a part of ANYTHING with their terrible kids
@@andreaestradaa marriage in the US isn't legal without the paperwork. Most people aren't actually married when they walk out the doors & everyone throws rice on them...unless they did something, secret or not, ahead of time.
I fully agree. She can have whatever wedding she wants. She didn’t have to include anyone if she didn’t want to, but she did then did what she wanted. Best of both worlds. Couldn’t imagine my family being so self absorbed that they’d be upset about that.
Story 6: People with kids are a whole different thing lots of times. If you don't want their kids at your event, they take that shit PERSONALLY. A lot of them just CAN'T understand that not everyone wants kids around all the time. If she only had THAT day and heard that MarioKart music, she'd have been VEXXED!!! But because she knew she had HER day coming... She charged it. I'd be like "You enjoyed that chicken or fish dinner I fed you, yeah? You enjoyed that bar you drank at, yeah? You danced and laughed and took pictures, yeah? So what are you actually ON about? If I had MY way... Your kids wouldn't have been there AT ALL. So...? 🤷🏾♀️" People will complain no matter WHAT you do. Like if you have a destination wedding, you're the asshole because someone can't afford to go. At the end of the day, it's THEIR wedding. She was a helluva lot more compromising than MANY brides these days.
This!!! I would have mentioned, also if this were my actual wedding, the moment I heard Mario Kart I would have thrown that kid's smart phone in the garbage bin! And sent a dry cleaning bill to the parent who let their kid throw up on my expensive wedding gown!
Exactly, it’s just like people who have Vegas weddings or elopement’s and they have a celebration afterwards, no one will be happy because you don’t have the food THEY like, or the music THEY like, or have it in the destination THEY want, kids attention spans are from her to the door, having a bunch of kids at a wedding, jumping, throwing things, yelling, screaming, and throwing up on people, yuck, no. Not at all.
100% I would not GAF if I was one of those folks only at the “fake” wedding; I’d be grateful to be included in the celebration and give mad props to the married couple for being super smart to make sure they got exactly their dream wedding!
Yes!!!! NTA!!!! It’s their wedding! If they want two different ceremonies then that’s for them. You can’t make everyone happy. She did what was best for them and didn’t stress herself out.
Story 6: I don't understand why people would be upset. You aren't married until you sign the papers anyway. Saying "i do" means nothing (legally). PLUS many cultures have multiple weddings.
The slug guy was messing with her heart medicine too. The slugs were doing cardiac damage and the doctors didn’t know why it was happening but prescribed her meds for it. He’d open the capsules, remove the medicine then put salt in them and close them back up. Her doctors couldn’t figure out why the medicine wasn’t helping and it was because her body was never getting any of the medicine.
@@Velvetvixen22attempted murderers don’t need diagnoses. I’m a doctor and antisocial personality disorder we usually don’t bother to diagnose in people like this. If they have gone this far there is no rehabilitation in the literature.
For Story 5 "AITA for suggesting my wife lower her standards" The answer is yes bc that guy just don't wanna parent. And I really disliked the guys's take on that one bc being an active parent ist being nagging and too much, its just being active and caring about your kids's lives. To me it felt like the wife was asking the husband to help out with the bare minimum and he was like "nah lets just not parent and let the kids deal" he is taking on more of a "cool uncle" role rather then the role of a father. I really dislike this guy sm. ALSO I just know if it was the mom taking this kinda role she would be DRAGGED by society for not being " a good mom"
THANK YOU. I was looking for this kind of comment. That take was NOT it. Even just the way the guy was describing the situation and his wife was shady and just making himself look good. I'm really disappointed that Morgan didn't pick up on any of that and push back more on what the guys were saying. They literally created this whole narrative about the mom that had nothing to do with the actual story told by the OP. 🙄
all I could think of when they reacted to this story is none of these people are parents and are in for a huge wake up call if and when they are. you can’t just do the bare minimum of giving kids cereal for breakfast especially if they have adhd and literally need healthy fuel to set themselves up for success at school. i have lots of siblings and have nannied for years and it’s so clear behaviorally and developmentally who is getting only screen time and who is getting what they need
I honestly am trying my best to not rip apart those British guys before hearing what Morgan has to say. I can believe those guys are defending this deadbeat father
Story 5: those guys had a really shitty take. That OP was a complete AH. The wife is so stressed because her lazy husband won’t help. It’s not that she won’t accept help, he’s a crappy uninvolved father. Won’t get them off to school in the morning, won’t take them out to do things on the weekend. He’s a lazy AH.
I watch these guys shorts from time to time. They are very funny and also kind off sexist. I was pretty shocked Morgan would invite them. I don’t see how their views align with the purpose of her podcast 👀
I honestly feel that the dad could do more like breakfast needs to be more than cereal, but she could make stuff ahead of time and then the kids can reheat it. Spending time at home sounds good but the husband does need to figure out where the family goes maybe once every 3 weeks, she does that as well, and then spend one weekend completely at home. I feel like both sides need to change not just her, but I do agree hubs needs to step up.
ESPECIALLY considering the youngest is 8 years old!! the kids are 10, 12 and 8!! 8 year olds are not so independent that they need no help at all in the morning going to school-- and even if he somehow is i would be SO UPSET if my parents were upstairs SLEEPING instead of kissing me bye when im in fucking 2nd grade!
For story 6, I didn’t trick you, I just only invited you to one ceremony. Also, it kinda sounds like the first ceremony was probably to appease the parents and people that would be angry about a “no kids” rule.
Right?? Like the couple very well could’ve just had one small private wedding and not allowed any kids! They went above and beyond (especially $$$) to appease the GUESTS by having a second wedding. People are so weird
For the one with the overwhelmed wife, my mom used to get up every morning and make me a breakfast burrito and walk me to school when I was 13 and in 8th grade. As an adult now, I look back at that time very fondly.
The dad in Story 5 referring to joint parenting as “helping” his wife….. like it’s her job and she’s so lucky that he deigns to assist her and that it’s her fault he can’t make her standards.
As a mom, Story 5 made me so mad! It’s clear the dad wants to do the bare minimum and isn’t helping the mom at all. Those guys are stuck on the cereal thing. That’s the most minuscule issue here compared with everything else OP mentioned. He is an uninvolved dad and mom is picking up all the slack.
2 things can be right at the same time. While yes dad should also wake up for kids to help, the kids can also not have a whole cooked breakfast every day. At the same time you don’t HAVE to set rules ALL THE TIME. Cause why? If it’s at the cost of your stress, why bother when it’s not gonna be the end of the world? That’s the whole point. You don’t have to be rigid all the time. And 9 times out of 10, kids with strict parents tend to rebel more. Cause really, 2 hours of screen time? Weekly outdoor activities? Sometimes kids just need to do whatever tf they want
@@lalibelardo1706 If she’s overworked then isn’t telling her to do less a good thing He just wants her to chill out a bit nothing wrong with being a bit lazy It’s not neglectful it’s just stress free Stress is bad Remove the stress and you will be more productive later on It’s called self induced hibernation Everyone always complains that they gotta get up and do something I’m with the dad a bit Just don’t no one is making you Y’all are just doing more than you have to and making your lives exponentially more difficult for no reason
If she’s overworked then isn’t telling her to do less a good thing He just wants her to chill out a bit nothing wrong with being a bit lazy It’s not neglectful it’s just stress free Stress is bad Remove the stress and you will be more productive later on It’s called self induced hibernation Everyone always complains that they gotta get up and do something I’m with the dad a bit Just don’t no one is making you Y’all are just doing more than you have to and making your lives exponentially more difficult for no reason
About the double wedding story: why on earth is it “fake” to have 2 ceremonies? It doesn’t make either fake. Just one is for the masses and one for the bride & groom. Both ceremonies and vows are valid and plenty of people have gotten married and not signed the official paperwork to be legally married on the day of the ceremony or prior. If you don’t file the paperwork prior you technically won’t be legally married until the paperwork is in but that doesn’t make you any less a married couple. People need to chill and let the couple honor their the way they want as many times as they want.
This comment is what I came looking for!!! I don’t understand why everyone is loosing it. Like if someone eloped and did another wedding after everyone would be fine, but because of the switched order now it’s a bad move?
I agree! I don't understand why people care so much. They got to attend and enjoy the wedding? It's not your wedding so it's not your choice, she wasn't a bridezilla and she found a compromise that worked. Don't see why people are so worked up over it
I feel like the difference between a single mom and single dad household is that it's easier for a man to find other "female" supports to provide that missing role than it is more a single mom to find an accepting partner for the "father" role.
And people OFFER more help to single fathers, cause they know they need it. Whereas people expect single mothers to be able to handle everything and get offered help far less. The way they read the stat was so skewed and borderline misogynistic
Story 5: My 9yo brother has ADHD and absolutely CANNOT get ready on his own. He gets distracted by even the smallest things, so my mom still helps him get ready for school and while she and my dad are at work, I pick him up from school because there's no way he can get home by himself even if it's a short distance. Letting him wake up on his own and getting ready on his own is not an option. I also have a 12 yo sister. She should absolutely not be responsible for getting my brother ready, just like how OP wanted his kids to do. Kids don't like listening to their siblings, and kids should not be responsible for their siblings. I work at nights and sleep during the day, and I still get myself out of bed to pick up my brother BECAUSE HE'S A KID. HE NEEDS SOMEONE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIM. And the screen time limitation is absolutely a good thing. My family doctor recommended my brother have less screen time because of his ADHD, so my parents limit his. Of course, all of this is just based off of personal experience, and I'm not even a parent, but I still know what it's like for kids to get ready for school since I still live at home with my parents and some siblings. OP can get his butt out of bed an hour earlier to help at out least once a week (twice is ideal). He can plan outings, even if it's just something as simple as going to the park. He is not as involved as he thinks he is, and I'm glad reddit actually tore him apart and agreed he's the AH.
Story 5- After they have kids, I'm going to need everyone to come back and revist this . I guarantee their opinion will change. My daughter is ADHD and OCD, 9 years old. She can not get ready on her own, she cant just focus on brushing her teeth, cant focus on just getting dressed. Think of "oh a squirrel"
I have ADHD and I'm 27 and I still really struggle to brush my teeth. My partner reminds me basically every night and has me go with them to do it because I just wont on my own. People fail to realize that habits and routines like that don't exist the same way for neurotypical people.
I would love to see Morgan invite more therapists/counselors onto the show! I loved the past THT episodes with therapists because of the way they handle the AITA stories; they don’t apply blame to one person, but break down the situation to dissect the pieces to understand the root of the problem. I like that approach to the AITA stories the best!
Story 5: I really dislike the statistic of the single parent households, it is always taken extremely out of context. Moms have to work more because of the wage gap that is very much so still around. Women are less likely to receive help because of the patriarchal expectations for women. Women are also less likely to find partners after having kids. So why do kids in single mom households have more problems than single man? MY question for YOU is WHY WOULDN'T THEY. They get scrutinized by society, no financial help, and are often overworked and isolated. DO BETTER.
I LOVE that they even went, "Yeah because they will get help from their mom/sister whoever" so... WOMEN are still raising that child? If I was in Morgan's spot I'd rip them a new asshole, absolutely atrocious idiocy.
Story 8: as someone who has an unhoused brother who is an addict and has stolen from family, I am 100% with OP on this. My brother and I were best friends before everything happened with him, and I don’t hate him or even blame him for his addiction, but you do get to a point where you have to prioritize yourself and your family over someone who has screwed your over multiple times, family or otherwise. If he called me and said I need a ride to rehab, I’d drop everything and take him. But there’s no way I’d let him into my home in this situation.
on story 5--when i was a kid, my mom only allowed me 2 hours of tv time. i had poker chips that symbolized 30-minute increments, and i would give them to her to keep track of how much i had watched in the day. it was actually SO fun. i would sit with the tv guide in the morning and pick out which shows i was going to watch that day, and i was able to do other things with my time. i'm so grateful to my mom for doing that, and i hope to do the same with my future kids one day.
exactly, you made your bed now lie in it! OP said no to his brother coming to their house but the husband still put his family in danger, and insisted on his wife coming home to fix the mess he made, despite the fact she recently gave birth and there are three other children at home to parent. I would do the same, husband has no right to be mad about the consequences of his actions.
@@ladyk3729I understand having loyalty to your sibling. I have three and them being homeless would kill me and I would try whatever I could to help them out. But if I had a spouse and children and he had proved to be unreliable and potentially a danger to them, the sibling simply wouldn’t be allowed near them til I knew they were better. And more fuckign importantly!!!! If my spouse said no then it’s a fuckign no my guy!!! Spouse>everyone but the kids!!!!
story 5: mom and dad definitely need to figure out a compromise. mom needs a break, and dad might not be as engaged as he thinks he is. dont agree about asking the 12 year old to take on some of the responsibility at all. the parents should be getting the kids fed and ready in the morning, not their older sibling
Story #4 response: When we were younger my husband and I went to a party at a friends house. He got reeeeally drunk, and threw up in the bathroom sink. He then proceeded to take the sink apart, drain the vomit into the toilet and put the sink back together. He wiped the sink out after with some Clorox and that was that. I was actually really impressed. If my husband could do all of that while drunk, this woman’s husband can at the very least clean after himself while sober the next day.
i enjoy when the conversations make every person rethink their take. it's so nice seeing how this show affects people's empathy and understanding in real time. this was so much fun to watch
Everyone's talking about story 5, but I'm way more invested in 6 and 7. The POVs are such a good back and forth. I found myself agreeing with everyone and i love how complex it got. Loving this collab!! ❤ Side note: my sister did a wedding like that after her courthouse wedding and she was so happy through the whole wedding. She let people know right before the ceremony started.
My mom was not a go mom. She stayed in bed, never cooked never cleaned, and she didn't go to any school functions or anything. I wish she would have been more like this mom. I would have done anything for this kind of mom.
@@charlyyyyyyyyyyI feel the mom was attentive to make sure they have a lot of mental stimulation to just in general be there for them. I feel they should definitely talk to the children about going out on the weekend because they may just want to stay home or do something different. But having a mom wake up with you and make sure you’re on time for class I feel shows they care about your general well being. I feel the husband should step up and handle some of the days and planning. He just doesn’t want to imo the mom would be a lot less overwhelmed if he contributed more.
For story number 5....I was a really independent child because I was an only child and my parents had to work a lot. My grades suffered, I had behavioral issues and I really wish I had a little more discipline growing up. I don't blame my parents one bit because as immigrants they had to go to work to provide. Now if my parents were home and chose not to be parents....that's different. He's the asshole and she's awesome. I feel for her.
For Story 6; As a photographer, I always ask couples if they're open to a separate day for pictures of either just them or parents and them. It opens up so much time and gets rid of an insane amount of stress. Not a lot of people are willing to but those that have done this said it's the best decision they made.
Story 6: a traditional wedding and private ceremony are really common now. It being fake because they didn’t sign a certificate is stupid. They should be glad they were invited to anything since they clearly just wanted to elope.
Story 5: I believe that every couple should have at least one conversation about parenting styles before having kids together. If the parenting styles clash and cause arguments, it is better to just break up and find someone who will put the same effort as you into raising and parenting. Sooooo many couples do not do this and that's why we get so many crazy parenting stories from reddit. They definitely did not communicate about that before they had their children if he thinks she has high standards, because if they had a conversation PRIOR to having THREE children, we wouldn't be listening to this story.
Sometimes it's not even that simple or the conversations need to be more than surface level - a lot of men's definitions of involved parenting are different and I think sentiments change once the kids are there
For Story 2: The dude added sawdust because he read cellulose is often a food additive which is often derived from sawdust. Key word being DERIVED . Thus guy could have killed he girlfriend.
Morgan’s “viola” pronunciation has to be the best one yet!! 🤣 I loved this podcast so much Morgan! Two of my fave podcasts into one. Thank you for all your hard work!!
As far as the 1st story.. The experience she is imagining, and literally dreaming of, is so far removed/in the past, and layered with her current situation… I truly feel that she is tarnishing her current relationship, with someone that seems to really love her, for this idealized moment that can never actually be recreated. Especially with the added pressure she’s putting on it, possibly unknowingly… She’s literally destroying her partners memory of her and their love before she’s even gone..
Story 5 really made me think. I am definitely the kind of mom that wants to do all the things for my kids (they are toddlers so a bit different), and I do experience burnout from time to time. I did have to lessen my load for my own sanity, and to stop being such a stressed out mom, my kids don’t deserve that, so I CAN see where the dad is coming from. HOWEVER, I was also the kid who had to get myself and my younger brother ready for school starting at the young age of 7, and didn’t see my mom until 6 pm. She was a single mom who had to work so I can’t blame her as an adult, but as a child, it was hard. Making breakfast, making our lunches, sometimes dinner, getting the house picked up, and my brother ready and out the door, sometimes at separate schools. If my parents were just laying in my bed while I did all of these things, I’d wonder why my mom/parents didn’t care enough for me to help. I think it’s important for kids to learn how to do things on their own, but at the same time, kids are only kids once, and then they’re adults caring for themselves and others for the rest of their lives.. I don’t think parents appreciate those mundane things they can do for their kids, until they’re moved out and the house is always clean, and you never have to cook breakfast, or get kids out of the house at a certain time. It’s a sad feeling that you don’t understand until it’s too late.
Story 5 the mom is setting her kids up for success with structure! Teaching them routine and responsibilities. I get that she may need to calm down here and there but the father needs to step up! Giving young kids structure is the best way to ensure you have fully functioning independent teens and adults
Story 6 really reminds me of the episode of how I met your mother when Lily and Marshall got married. The day was turning out to be a complete disaster so they had a secret and quick ceremony out in the yard to have their perfect moment and then went back to the actual wedding and were able to have a good time with everyone.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, LET'S NEVER MENTION THE COCONUT STORY AGAIN. 😭 Every time I get it out of my head, we have to go and talk about it more, like can we please move on?! 😂
I second this. I think if Morgan wants to post it on Patreon, that’s totally fine (like what she did here). But please, can we not mention it on the main channel anymore? It’s too much.
I swung from super excited to irrationally angry at the mention of that story again... was ready to just close the video in disgust before learning it's only on Patreon. Like, Morgan, PLEASE begging you to let it go. If you feel the need to put it on Patreon out of fear of the reaction, then you obviously know that the audience doesn't like it.... So what's the DEAL? What is that story doing for YOU? Is it the story itself that's titillating? Or is it the negative reaction of the audience that's enjoyable?
Story 6: It’s annoying that people have such an opinion and get so mad, because at the end of the day, the day is not about anyone but the two people getting married. The fact that they even set another day for everyone to come to is enough because they went out of their way to make sure people could be at one, while at the same time having what she wanted.
And none of them know what a legal marriage actually is. Everyone's church wedding is legally meaningless until they file paperwork in court. A wedding is just a performance.
My only comment for story 5 about the morning schedule. I'm a pretty independent kid and did everything on time alone, but my friend I went to school with has ADHD had no time management skills as a kid. Her mom had to tell her how much time she had to eat and keep making her eat and not get distracted. So I can sympathize with the mom not wanting the kids to be late to school and keep them focused.
The sawdust guy could have known about sawdust because of the Great Depression. I remember learning about the Great Depression in school and learning that they used to put sawdust in bread and other things to help make it more filling. Since flour and other things were either too expensive or harder to come by. 😬
Sawdust has commonly been used as a filler in foods since 1970s, labeled as “cellulose” (wood/ or cotton pulp) still in a lot of processed food unfortunately..
Story 6: not the asshole, ive seen WAYY too many videos of people ruining their family members wedding and laughing it off like it’s a joke, kids will ruin cakes, ruin the event place, ruin the dress and people laugh and play it off as “kids being kids” I’ve already decided there’s not gonna be kids at my wedding and im only 19, not planned on getting married anytime soon but i just can’t stand when people ruin others special day cause they just HAVE to have their kids with them for this ONE day. And it’s not even a full day, it’s a couple hours, if you can’t be away from your kids for a couple hours don’t go to the event.🤷🏼♀️
I am baffled at the response to the wedding story!! I feel like it has become so much more common for people to do an intimate ceremony and a big ceremony/celebration. I know so many people (including myself) who have done this and have never heard anyone complain/think it’s being “fake”. I always recommend people do it this way lol you really get the best of everything!
The 5th story had me yelling at Morgan! I could tell you thought he was being sarcastic when he said he totally agrees with the dad and I feel like your opinion swayed because of theirs. I may be wrong though. I think that mom sounds like a really good attentive mom. I can't imagine leaving my kids to get up by themselves and leave the house without a word. Loved the collab though.
Why mad at Morgan and not at the guys? We know she gives a bit more of liberty for the guests so they can talk. For me he wasn’t being sarcastic, if he was he could correct himself but he double down
Definitely, I feel like if this was with Alej or Lauren they would have be screaming and hollering (in a good way) for the dad to step up. I also feel like she was ready to do that then she felt their vibes and waited for them. And agree with first commenter she Definitely was trying to course correct and knew how this was gonna go in the comments.
My goodness, story number 5 has me shocked. That wife deserves a better husband. That mother is being a good mum, and that dad is so lazy. I am fuming!
50:53 as a stressed out mommy and wifey, I definitely needed to hear this take on story 5. I put sooooo much pressure on myself and my husband always tells me to slow down and I just feel like the entire earth would come to a screeching halt if I sat down for just a moment. Thank you kind sir ♥️
An Ex calling you out of the blue to tell you they cheated 11 years ago is mental! You can tell they’ve been living with the guilt and just wanted to feel better, that’s just for them.
No, for real I literally started off watching THT was my first podcast and then I jumped on SNG and these are the only two podcasts that I watch. I never knew this was a Collab that I needed.
Story 5: 2 hours is the max a day kids should be using devices out of school work. There is research that has been done in this. My youngest is 7, he gets his own breakfast. The older teens have helped themselves to breakfast since they were around 5. It is teaching independence and life skills. I partner also takes the kids to school 2 to 3 times a week and that includes lunches and getting them ready. OP could get up once or twice a week and ensure the kids have eaten and out the door on the bus to give her a break. I use to take my kids out EVERY weekend. My partner worked away, so it was all on me. However, the planing was we are going here, we need these things, and kids packed their own bags. It sounds like she micro managers the planning from how he put it. But that could just be his perception. It feels like there is a massive difference in parenting styles and him not understanding the mental load the default parent carries. Can he name the kids teachers, what about doctors, or even what year at school they are in? Is there difference uniforms the kids have to have each day, if so, does he know that without being told. Does he organise and spend time one on one with each child? This is extremely important to have stable parent / child relationships.
I didn’t agree with all the points in story 5 but I loved the conversation! I’m so happy that Morgan shared so much of her POV. Oh and I totally agree about the screen time limit being good but putting a strict time on it would make me cheat on it too😂
The parent story is really tough because everyone has a different view on what parenting should look like. I think establishing a schedule, enacting discipline, and planning enrichment activities for young kids is important for raising them. Not every family looks and acts the same, so there really is no right answer. I just think that if the mom is the only one putting effort into these things (and OP just gets to be the “cool dad”), it’s no surprise she’s feeling burnt out. Parenting is, ideally, a partnership, so they really need to team up and find a compromise.
Morgan, I love you with these guys. The way you speak and the general vibe/attitude you have in the discussion and as a supportive role... Chef's kiss! Keep doing what you do.
48:51 As much as I get what he's saying, I've seen it first hand. Dad accepts help and everyone is like, "Oh yeah. Ill help. Raising kids is hard." Mom asks for help and you get, "Well you chose this." Or "I never got breaks when my kids were little" or "I guess you just struggle because being a mom isn't your thing." There is a double standard a lot. Not all the time, but a lot.
Story 5, Thats a good mom. Thats a good ass mom! She cares about her kids mental and physical health! The parents obviously didn't discuss a parenting style. And i personally think the dad thinks he's doing more than he actually is.
for story 5, my mom got up every single day to see us off to school until we were i dont know how old. she was fighting ovarian cancer and she made sure we were fed and ready every single morning. she passed 1.5 months ago and those mornings are one of my fondest memories of her. i was fully able to get ready myself, but her being there was invaluable and i miss her a lot.
Story 5: you know what got me the most, they suggested the 12 year old helping vs the dad just getting up in the mornings to feed his own children. The 12 year old is not the parent, he is! I'm sorry but he's not an attentive parent.
The idea that the kid should help when the dad is there blows my mind.
Their take in story 5 IS crazy and so out of touch. Ladies, you're warn if you want to have children with One of them...
This!! He doesn’t want to take any of the mental load or responsibility
@@lauriane2784 He legit sounds like the laziest parent. He just wants to hand them an iPad and eff off. He can’t even be bothered to make them a proper meal
THAT!!! Two hrs of screen time a day is a lot. Why do they need more?? @@liliebilie
Story 5 : When it comes to single parent father households they get help automatically without even asking as people around assume they need help and when it comes to women they are assumed to just do all the work there is really a lot of mental load and responsibility women are assumed to just own to.
This, exactly what I was thinking. Not to mention, in a lot of areas there are still stigmas against single moms, which can make it way harder for them to get help even if they were to ask.
Exactly! I've seen it first hand and it always made me mad.
I kinda couldn’t stand these guys after their take on that story tbh.
EXACTLY! men are infantilized when it comes to child care, women have to do it all. These studies are important bc they inform our knowledge regarding single parent homes, but the information is useless if we don't understand the underlying cause of why one parent gets more help, which is based in misogyny
And who did he list as people who help single dads? Aunts, sisters, grandmas...all women. They're not helping single moms because they're helping the incompetent men in their lives.
for story 5, i experienced severe neglect growing up and a lack of food being available. having a parent like that mom would’ve changed my life.
@@s3v3n3leven If she’s overworked then isn’t telling her to do less a good thing
He just wants her to chill out a bit nothing wrong with being a bit lazy
It’s not neglectful it’s just stress free
Stress is bad
Remove the stress and you will be more productive later on
It’s called self induced hibernation
Everyone always complains that they gotta get up and do something
I’m with the dad a bit
Just don’t no one is making you
Y’all are just doing more than you have to and making your lives exponentially more difficult for no reason
Being a parent is different tho I would only be like the dad if we didn’t have kids
@@madnessarcade7447
It doesn't work like this. You can't simply just stop parenting to reduce stress, within reason you absolutely can but you cannot just stop getting up with young children and let them do it themselves, unless you are physically at work and this is the only way you can do things. If you're at home, get up and help your children.
sh'es overworked cause he is not doing enough@@madnessarcade7447
People differ, so I think anecdotal situations aren't the best way to go about this. Like in my own upbringing, I was mostly left to do everything independently, and I don't feel neglected or that my parents are bad. But my younger brother needs more attention and hugs, or he feels that something is wrong. Also, just saying, as it relates to the parent being home vs. them being at work, if you aren't comfortable with them doing it alone when you're there, don't expect the kid to understand your circumstances just because you have work. Loneliness is loneliness. If you wanted kids, it looks like it's time for a job change (even though it might be hard). You're sticking to your principles, so make sure you are present to uphold them.
While this is a large generalization, it's so sad that moms often end up being the "annoying" or "strict" parent because they take on a majority of the mental load. At the same time, the dads end up being the "fun" or "easygoing" parent because they're just riding on the work their wife does. I feel so bad about viewing my mom this way growing up now that I'm an adult. I had to teach my dad how to cook a f*cking egg when my mom was sick.
No, they end up with that stigma because they are like that
Yessss and then the fathers complain that the mother is a nag or too up tight. As the story says “she needs to lower her standards” but really majority of the time it’s the fact that the other person needs to raise their standards of what they consider good parenting or being a good partner. No wonder the mother in this story was so stressed she’s trying to do these incredible things to mold her kids minds into healthy happy adults and her husband doesn’t even see purpose in it. So of course she feels the need to take it all on her shoulders and over compensate for his lack of parenting. I see so much of myself in her because a lot of times my past partners would say I’m a “perfectionist” but really I just was raised well and like to do things the correct way. I don’t even have kids and I could see this becoming a problem in my own life. When becoming a spouse and parent you have to learn to be selfless sometimes and if something matters to your partner you help them do it because it’s for the best of the entire family. His laziness really showed through in the way he spoke about his wife and young children saying “they can just do it by themselves” sure maybe they could but they shouldn’t have to. They are kids and deserve parents who care enough to wake up and help them get ready in the morning for school especially when still in elementary. My mother always did that for me and I remember that even as an adult. My father however I could not remember a single morning of him waking me up for school making sure I was on the bus, making sure I had lunch money. None of it, we need to stop excusing fathers of absent parenting just because in most traditional families they end up as the financial provider.
@@diylayne55 I had a similar upbringing. Like I couldn't get my tax return for a few years when I was in high school because my dad helped me fill it out and he put the wrong birthday. It's basic shit like this they can't even figure out.
Personal experience says thus is bullshit. Just like I tell their mom - calm the fuck down, and they'll listen. There's a reason I get called over to have them do something, and am still the "fun" parent. You're just doing it wrong.
@@nicoles2159lol my dad doesn’t know my birthday either
Story 5: his lack of parenting is what's causing her stress.
I genuinely don't think many of his points are wrong, but its all talk
The problem is his lack of actions.
The problem is they have two different parenting styles. She wants the kids to depend on her because she is "mommy", but he is more alright with the kids being independent because of their big age.
He's so lazy! Like her points are so justified!!!!
the kids are all above 10. atp shes doing this to herself
@@an_oracle legit they should meet halfway, she needs to chill out, shes kind of being extremely strict and the kids will become sneakier. he needs to get up and make breakfast for his kids and put his foot down too at times
Story 5: That OP is the AH. The reason his wife is strict is because he's slacking and she has to make up the difference. 99 times out of 100, when there is an imbalanced level of strictness, it is a polarizing, recursive effect. If the slacker steps up, the stricter one gets an opportunity to relax. But, if the stricter one relaxes first, the slacker just lets everything fall apart and then blames their spouse for slacking.
Whats scary about the saw dust story is that he did it so willingly and had justified it to himself.
Like its giving poisoner in the victorian style
And it can also be terrible to ingest. And can't you even die sometimes? Idk how or anything. But yes, it is absolutely crazy
Something I found out recently is in America most parmesan cheese that’s in those bottles that people sprinkle on spaghetti and stuff also has sawdust mixed into it.
It's like the slug story..
Right like what ?!? He really thought he was helping her
Ww2 due to rationing alot of things such as bread was made with sawdust
you know how you get a happier and more relaxed mum? by the dad actually helping lmao
literally screaming this at my phone like if the dad wasn’t a bum, mom wouldn’t be so irritable n stressed
He is not being a present father, but on some things he isn't totally wrong. On some yes, 100%, he needs to get up in the morning for example. It's good for kids to be able to get ready for school in time but you need to teach them, not just leave them alone and hope they will figure it out.
But for other thing, this mother reminds me of mine... and she would create very stressful situations (forcing me and my sister to do activities toghether because "that's what a family do", or wanting us to spend a certain amount of hours on homeworks, when I needed way less time and my sister needed more breaks to do well).
At my father's house we were never neglected. If we asked, he was always happy do to activities with us and always ready to help with homeworks but he was definitely more relaxed and while I know my mother had my best interest in mind she was doing things in a way that didn't work for us
Exactly, unless he's working nights or something there's no excuse for this kind of behaviour.
single dads seem to find a way to chill the fuck out.
THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Story 5: As a kid I was expected to look after myself from 7/8. I washed and ironed my school clothes, made lunch, checked my own homework. As my little sister(2 years younger) started school her stuff was my responsibility as well. I was responsible for cooking dinner by 12, then laundry, garden work, cleaning the house. It was a lot for me, I became a very anxious child because of it. This is triggering that a father is complaining about the basics of parenthood and thinking his wife should relax and let their kids fend for themselves at 8!
Do you feel like having children yourself after pretty much raising your younger sister? I am 10y apart from my brother. I remember bathing him, babysitting him, his teeth coming out and him screaming the fuck for hours, bringing him from kindergarten instead of spending time with friends in afterschool activities etc. and I believe this is one of the main contributing factors I despise children and want none. 🤔
@@MyBlackSheep omg, I guess you might have just explained the reason why I don't like/want children 😳
As a mom, story number 5 hurts. Your kids need you to be involved. If you can’t do that don’t have kids.
It’s not even “wanting to be a super mom”. Mom guilt is SO REAL! You know what your kids need, you ask for help, and you’re “doing too much”. It’s not your 12 year olds job to pick up the slack. It’s your co-parents job to PARENT with you.
Not just Mom Guilt, cuz other moms judge you hard too (sometimes your own family). I know what it's like, so when I meet other single moms, I just let them mess up in a safe space.
And I am wondering if she is snappy towards the kids or just the "dad"... It is so sad My mom heart is breaking for her
Story 5 made me 😡. Absolutely a happy Mom is way important, but why dad would rather convince Mom to step down with him, over him stepping up occasionally* to assist her with the mental load? He sees her struggling and instead of “I got it babe” it’s, “join me in not participating.” It’s hard to believe that he is as involved as he claims when she’s so exhausted and he’s criticizing all that she does and justifying all that he’s not. There are many two parent households with only one parent parenting.
I think that's the whole problem with the situation.
Right, a tiny bit of compromise where they have one "cereal day" and "dad day" in the morning; and AT LEAST one dad evening where he plays with\entertains the kids could make a HUGE improvement in her life without sacrificing quality of life for the kids
The mom already lower her expectation when she married with that guy
Also no one in this video has experience with kids but imma say it an EIGHT YEAR OLD?? Getting themself ready for school and waking themselves up?? A SECOND GRADER???? Dads a fucking psycho if he thinks that’s happening
Exactly, a ten year old MIGHT get everything done by themselves but an 8 year old will still need help. & even then, some younger kids might be more self-sufficient than the older kids…. Regardless, kids are kids & require some supervision. Plus, I’m pretty sure kids are happy to get a nice kiss goodbye from mom & dad before hopping onto the bus! This dad is delusional
Nope, they’re wrong about the study regarding single parents. The study says that single dads have more success because ppl are more likely to OFFER help than single mothers. Ppl don’t offer help to single mothers, that’s the reason for the discrepancy, not because single mothers are less likely to accept help. Single mothers NEED help, that’s the whole point of the study.
They also tend to be older and higher paid. I haven't found any peer reviewed studies that show the children of single fathers are better off than children raised by single mothers. But damn, more help and more money, I wouldn't be surprised.
I knew as soon as they said better off I was like mm I bet that's a load of bs, I bet men are offered more help because people around them care and want to help and possibly also enable crappy parenting so rather than call them out they just help.
Well maybe its different in different countries but Here they would be classed as correct because the Government offer more help to Women then Men especially if its within “housing” because they believe “You are a man and can fend for yourself”
@@franksnbeans7413they are, most criminals are from single mother homes, most people that also commit suicide are from single mother homes, most men that become deadbeats are also from single mother homes
@@Rysco_creationsif you could think critically for a second you'd also be able to correlate that single mothers are usually on a lower income, in more deprived areas, have usually had to miss further education, are usually young themselves and/or impressionable and have less support and social stigma. So, it makes sense that children in that environment fair less than 2parent households or single father households where many of the issues take place. Not to mention that there are significantly more single mothers than there are single fathers. It also doesn't account for the absent fathers lack of accountability.
But like I said it requires critical thinking to acknowledge these things....
ok but can we talk about how hurtful the first story is.. I would be so hurt if my partners dying wish was to sleep with their ex one more time
I would've been completely shattered. There's literally no way to come back from that
i would leave like you expect me to take care of you but you want to f another person? go have them take care of you tf
And not just for any nostalgia or anything, but because the sex was better… Like, my wife is dying and she wants to sleep with her ex because he’s a better lay than me. I would never recover.
I don’t know. Sometimes sex is just sex. The wife is literally dying and wants to experience and relive whatever they want to relive.
It might be just sex for her, but it wasn't an innocent comment for him. And that's valid. Unfortunately, she won't have to live with it, knowing that for the duration of their marriage, she still felt that her ex was the best sex she's had, felt it so strongly that its her actual dying wish. That's gonna taint so many memories for him. Her husband is going to live with that statement and deal with the inherent insecurity that comes with a statement like that. It's not just sex for her current husband. The supposed love of his life is dying, and she wants to go have sex with an ex (assuming the ex is down). I'd be heartbroken.
Story 5 has me fuming. Everything he described just sounded like she was trying to be a good mom and he didn’t want to be a parent. The fact he said lower her standards vs. helping out… WILD
Not really, his concern was that she's stressing herself out trying to have it all her way. Kids that grow up with parents that are in a chronic bad mood and need to have it all their way just scare their kids.
She’s trying to enrich the lives of her children, ensure that they feel loved and cared for, that they aren’t neglected, that they have varied interests and nutritionally complete meals. None of those are bad things and all of those things should be supported by her partner. I think the mistake she made was choosing to have children with someone who has a vastly different outlook on parenting than she does
@@ridonculously these guys be hiding their true self until it’s too late.
@@AndresGomez-ct7qbshe's stress because she is a single mom who also has to take Care of a crappy husband 🤷
@@lauriane2784 Yeah, you all didn't listen the story 😆
Don't even remember how she stresses the kids or that the title was just about him trying to make her less overwhelmed 🤣
Story 5: I can't help but imagine the dad to be the type to play with the kids till they're hyper, wreck the house and then rest while the mum tries to stay afloat and he thinks he's winning at parenthood
And he will believe that HE is the better parent because he is not “stressed and overwhelmed” like the mother.
WAIT I WAS NOT READY FOR THESE TWO WORLDS TO COLLIDE OMGGGG
SCREAMING CRYING THROWING UP 🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨😍😍😍😍
ME LITERALLY SCREAMING
I am gobsmacked! 😱
@@danastein8603 the scream i scrumpt!! 😂
Literally how I feel and can’t believe there’s so many girlies just like me fr fr
Story 5: as a teacher, I love what the mom is doing and the dad should definitely step up more. Since covid, a lot of parents have had the dads attitude and it has made teaching wayyyyyy harder. The amount of behaviors in schools now is insane. Kids are used to getting their way at home, being on technology 24/7, and have a lack of boundaries. Cereal doesn’t fill them up and then they spend the morning more focused on being hungry instead of learning. Kids need structure.
Story 5: This mom’s rules and seeing the kids off to school are the bare minimum parenting. For that man to claim he’s an “engaged father” is a complete delusion! 2 hours of screen time on a school day is a lot already!
Right?!?! The fact that he wants them watching tv until it’s their bedtime, meaning he doesn’t want to spend time with them.. it’s the “easier” way, they will be entertained the whole time. $hitt¥ father
Agreed ! Dads are always so quick to stick a kid in front of a tv then go on their phones or play video games! That standard NEEDS to be held to the same level as women, they don’t get the pressure because it’s only on us !
I am a mum and I'm 100% like that husband!
I am an evening person so usually the kids (5 and 6) dress and eat themselves, then I do myself up, get them to kindie/school and go to work. My husband is often more hands on - he helps them find socks and hats, toasts bread and pours milk. If he's not there or he's sleeping, they do it alone. During my 6 years of parenting, I've made breakfast only occasionally on Sundays (smoothie and pancakes).
What comes to screen time, if I'm busy, I try to use screens when possible, but not after 8 pm. Sometimes I tell them to close it and encourage to start games and outdoor activities now and then. Kids almost never spend 2 hours a day on screens.
My kids are smart, independent, polite, caring, like cooking, listen to what I say.
We spend time together. I often take them to longer trips, shops, work or friends, but rarely to zoos or parks.
I think the husband definitely has a point! Why get a migraine and spoil my day, if mornings are just not my thing?
@@thiacarisome people just shouldn’t have kids.
@@Proud2beEstelleugh. You sound really upright 🙄
Story 5- "engaged for you is going" is such an accurate statement. It reminds me of all the videos of Mom's trying to wrangle kids in a restaurant, getting their food cut and ready, while Dad enjoys his meal and is done before Mom even gets to start. They would both describe their night as "having dinner with the family."
I dont remember who but heard someone saying now they understand why in the three bears song the father bear’s food was hot while the mother’s was cold, and the kid’s was warm, it was coz it’s always the mum trying to cool the kid’s food and feed them that her own gets cold, while the father always enjoys his food hot/freshly made..
Story 5: as the oldest, I didn’t make those kids, if mom needs help dad is there! That’s what the second parent is there for! Don’t be a single mom with a husband 😒
As a child whose mother stopped waking up with me for a 7:25 bus stop, at 8 years old. It sucked. I felt so alone 🥺 so OPs wife is doing a kick ass job
Yeah as a child if my parents didn’t help me get up and get ready for school I would probably go back to bed and “forget” to wake up very often
Exactly. Parents that don't get up end up with truant kids who are unmotivated or end up parenting themselves and any siblings they may have.
But did you have siblings? Because my parents did the same for me early on and I didn't feel that because I have 2 brothers and we all got up early and did our stuff and we walked to school together. So it was not lonely
Same like in this case where they have 3 kids
Exactly! Not to mention one has adhd cereal 🥣 isn’t going help with that. A proper meal would definitely improve the child’s day. Dad is being to lazy for sure and not taking in everything mom is saying at a whole.
story #5 absolutely baffled me. 8 years old is literally 1st/2nd grade...you expect a 2nd grader to wake up and make their own breakfast and send themselves off to school? and then to pin the responsibility of getting the younger children ready onto the oldest child? that's insane....they're a child themselves it shouldn't be their responsibility. i wish men could experience a world without women for 24 hours so we wouldn't get delusional takes like this anymore 😐
8 is 3rd grade. First grade would be age 6, just so you know. That aside, I agree. Even when we made ourselves instant oatmeal or cereal for breakfast, my parents, especially my dad, was getting us up, making sure we brushed our teeth/washed faces, and that we actually made and ate breakfast if he didn't make it. By high school he didn't have to wake us up, but he at least checked to see that we did get up to start getting ready and had our stuff to head out of the door. Mom made sure our hair was still fresh and our clothes were ironed at that age. Just a hug and kiss from your parents out of the door is so important because things happen and that may be the last time you see each other. And we never left the house alone prior to high school. Had to walk with siblings, other kids, or a parent.
It can be done if the items are provided for them and they’re facilitated in a safe environment until they can do it on their own
@@Lill2895I’m a nanny and where I live all of the kids turn 8 in second grade pretty much
I actually think it’s pretty pathetic if your kid can’t get ready for school at the age of 12, maybe that’s cos of the way I had to grow up, but I think that’s so extra, I was cooking dinner for my brothers and sisters at 12 years old, maybe it’s a silver spoon thing idk
Y'all missed the point of that story. The dad's concerns wasn't about breakfast, it was about his wife stressing herself and everyone else out trying to have everything her way and even then sulking, like he said about her insisting on going out every weekend but then being annoyed the youngest one gets in a mood when he's tired.
It scares me how the guys saw no issue with the dad in story 5. Having kids feels like such a huge risk because you don’t know how your partner is going to be. It makes me sad for the wife
it made me even more sad when they suggested parentifying the oldest child yourre really asking everyone else to pitch in except the dad
yeah a couple of their opinions just showed how men really dont understand how hard women/mothers have it 😢
i think scary would be a little far, more disappointing. I don't expect most men to understand women because we don't really understand them either lmao jokes aside tho, good, and supportive men who were raised right are out there. Some guys just cant accept the level of responsibility that comes with having children 🙅♀
I mean I agree the dude can definitely do more but at the same time alot of the comments on this topic are so linear and people be assuming things so many variables not being accounted for its kinda crazy
I think it has more to do with them not having that help as kids so it seems as if the mom was doing too much at first but also op’s wording kind of skewed the situation in his favor at first
I'm so glad the comments are together for story 5 ❤ mom needs more help. Step up AH dad
If kids are actively throwing up on YOUR wedding dress on YOUR wedding day, I'd draw the line too. She's completely valid.
Yeah, babies spit up a lot for the first few months, but the whole fiasco could've been avoided by the parents not handing the baby to the bride in the first place. But also, as a parent myself it wouldn't have occurred to me to be offended that the couple planned an extra day so I could celebrate with them, official ceremony or not.
What gets me about the wedding one is this - those family members believed this was her real wedding and they let their kids go wild to the point one of them puked on her dress and someone even commented “you’re taking this well” as if it was a surprise. Considering this, I’m sure OP knew exactly how these people were and how out of control their kids were going to be (because their parents weren’t going to stop it, it seems), and they planned accordingly. I don’t blame people for being upset, but I don’t blame OP at all, either
I agreed!
And I was also thinking what’s the difference between their “fake” wedding and renewal of vows? In my books it the same thing. The couple committed their lives together and shared vows; is that not enough for people? Plus couples who have family in different countries have two weddings too; again I don’t understand what the big deal is.
@@TaratheEnchantress exactly! Honestly I think they’re just offended because they were basically deemed to be too unruly for the “real thing“ but they kind of did it to themselves
You know how I know that dad isn’t doing his fair share in the 5th story? I have a son (he’s 19 now) who has adhd (I do too) and up until high school I had to make sure he got himself ready and out the door on time. In my case, I was a single parent. I had help thankfully from my parents, but getting him up and out the door could be so stressful if I just let him do his thing because ADHD and executive function are at odds in the brain. I had to make sure he did all the steps to get ready…I’m talking getting him refocused to brush his teeth, brush his hair, change clothes, etc. because he’d get so distracted so easily even with medication. This dad is sleeping in and missing that part of the equation. His wife may seem snappy and irritable, rigid (and she may be on some of it!) but it sounds like exactly what Morgan said..there’s no compromise or offer to help. He just wants to skirt on by doing the fun dad bit.
My sister have ADHD(the type most common for girls), and when we were kids(at least 12), she could do all the things in the morning, but she need more time to do things than I would. My mom and dad was up and making sure, we was ready at the right time. So if my sister needed it, there were help, but we were both very independent in the morning in general. But this was when we had become teenagers, before that it was our parents who made sure things was done in the morning, else at least I would still be sitting watching tv without being ready, when it was time to go.
Yeah my brother and I both had undiagnosed ADHD and needed different types of help leaving in the morning. I have terrible time blindness, so even though I knew how to do all the things to get out the door, I could get stuck on a step for too long without realizing it, so my parents helped me learn how to be more time aware and make sure I was getting things done by the right time. My brother on the other hand needed to be told all the steps otherwise he would forget a lot of them.
There is no way that he or I could have gotten ourselves to school by ourselves until our later teens to be honest.
I also think that this is not a crazy thing to ask a Dad to get their child do. It isn't some extra crazy step. It's the bare minimum.
My Dad used to wake up and make us our eggs and cut up some fresh fruit even when we were in high school. My Mom would be helping my brother through his morning routine while he did that and then we'd quickly eat together. My Dad wasn't really and to do a lot of other cooking for other meals, but he was great at making eggs so he took full ownership of that meal 7 days a week.
Having parents who are helping you start your day is really lovely if it's a possibility.
that's such a great point tbh, the kid just may need the help - The dad doesn't want to find out tbh
And I don't think the mum's making all this shit up, eating cereal every day is NOT healthy at all! I dunno if that seems ok in the US because of culture but doctors for sure say it's not enough for children... She seems right in many points and I do think she seems rigid cause she has been the only parent here for a while, the dad doesn't take the morning responsabilities
Story 6. She literally heard Mario kart during their vows. People commended them on “how well they took the chaos” that means everyone agrees the wedding went to hell.
If my wedding had that many things go wrong and was that awful, you bet I'd do a private one where I ACTUALLY liked MY OWN wedding. The guests are coming FOR you. I agree.
Yeah I didn’t like their take on that story. If your parents are making you not have a child free wedding and it goes to chaos. I’d for sure have my own special day the way I wanted
Yeah those dumbass people would never of agreed if she told them it was a “for show” wedding.
This is why my wedding was parents grandparents only nor my brother (an adult with kids) and my husbands brother (a kid at the time) wouldn’t of been able to come since it was a child free wedding. I couldn’t keep one brother out and allow my brother it seemed rude. Plus my sister-in-law would never of gone without her kids (not because shes the best mom because she needs attention on her) so my brother couldn’t of gone if the rest of them couldn’t.
I don't think she's a a-hole at all, even if she did a fake ceremony and reception, kids were happy and loved to be there in the moment and the families enjoyed themselves though I do think she could have told the parents and whoever was upset and didn't wanna come then it's their problem. She did her best to make everyone happy in a smart way, power to her.
Yeah...ngl, it's "mine" and my other half's day. I do not care about what other families want or what my parents want. I'm getting married our way, cause it's our day for the rest of our lives. Soo...I don't think that she's completely an asshole. I definitely wouldn't want kids at my wedding.
story 5: The children will see one day how much effort their mom put in for them every morning for school, i remember those key memories with my mom making me breakfast & listening to music in the car before school all while my dad was in bed every single morning, i appreciate my mom so much more the older i get for everything she sacrificed for me and my sisters, i hope the woman in the story gets that moment with her children one day because it sounds like she is an awesome mom who actually cares about her children’s well-being. As for the dad, if you didn’t sign up to be awake at 6:45 every morning for your children then you shouldn’t have been a father. Does he think she enjoys waking up that early every morning? Parenting never works when one is good cop and the other is bad cop. It sounds like he doesn’t respect her or her parenting style. I’m so sick of some people becoming parents and not want to parent
Nothing that the mom in story 5 was doing sounds like “High standards.” Making sure the kids have breakfast and get on the bus. Limiting screen time and making sure they get out of the house (I’m willing to bet she’s not planning this for every weekend either like the poster is implying). This is all pretty day-to-day parenting. I don’t see where they are getting that she is criticizing him for doing things wrong either. She seems more upset that he’s not doing anything to back her up.
The parenting story shows the problem with men these days. The mom is trying to get the kids out of the house to tire them out because then they won’t go to bed if they aren’t tired. If the kids don’t go to bed, the dad isn’t going to be the one handling that. I have an 8 year old and if we don’t do something fun for at least 4-6 hours a day on a weekend, he is bouncing off the walls. They need stimulation, and it sounds like the dad doesn’t get it. And it’s really weird for the dad to not take their turn getting the kids up. All of the responsibility falls on the mom, which is not ok if there’s a dad in the house. Heck, my husband is my son’s step dad and he takes on a lot more responsibility than this dad.
I use to have just dance marathons with my niece just to do sis a favor and tire out the gremlin before bed. Yes kids have to learn how to entertain themselves but you can't resort to "I need you to play on your own while I do X" too often. They'll get bored and so attention starved they'll misbehave because bad attention is better than no attention.
For the wedding story, I am totally on the side of the bride. I know that a lot of commenters were talking about how communication was important, and how it was awful that the bride deceived them, but this was a situation where clearly the family did not respect the bride’s boundaries in the first place.
Number one, the Mario kart music. They were letting their children play video games during the ceremony. That is really disrespectful, and if you actually cared and loved someone, you would actually honor the sacred moment of them being together and celebrating that.
Number two, somebody at the wedding was giving out drinks to underage teenagers. That is a huge sign of disrespect, and also something that the bride and groom could’ve gotten in trouble for. If an emergency happened and the police had showed up and seen that, there is a possibility that the reception would’ve been shut down and people could’ve been arrested. Providing alcohol to underage people if it’s in the states, is illegal.
Number three, the bride literally said that she wanted her wedding to be child free, but found out it would be a huge fight, and she didn’t wanna deal with it. If she had communicated her intention to have two ceremonies, I bet that would’ve been a huge fight too.
This is a clear situation where clearly the bride wasn’t respected, and her wedding day was clearly not being honored by the family.
Also, from what I understand, no one ever apologized to her for her dress getting messed up by the sick baby, and it sounds like they weren’t apologized to for the other chaos that happened. The bride was totally in the right here. 100% NTA. I think what she did was so clever, and she definitely went about it the right way. Honestly, this family kind of sounds like they suck. Throw the whole relatives away.
also they were saying how messed up it was that she tricked them with the priest etc, but the way i understood it was that they had a church wedding (the big one) and them a more private civil ceremony (where they sign the government papers), which i thought was fine??
lots of different cultures have multiple ceremonies, and i don’t know how common it if for christians but were i live people tend to do the religious ceremony with all the loved ones included and then a civil wedding that’s smaller (sometimes its just the bride, groom and their witnesses, that take a few hours to sign the government papers)
Yes! I’m surprised more people don’t agree. To me, this just shows how ENTITLED their friends and family are for feeling that they DESERVED to see the “REAL” ceremony. I don’t see how it matters either way. This solution should be seen as the one where everyone gets what they want. Unfortunately- some folks will be mad either way. If they weren’t complaining about this, they’d be complaining about something petty like the food.
honestly for me it all boils down to the day being for them and they’re not entitled to THEIR day. it’s their wedding. they can do with it as they please. they clearly knew people would be up their a** about it so they did the fake one to make them happy. they should be happy for them and happy they got to be a part of ANYTHING with their terrible kids
@@andreaestradaa marriage in the US isn't legal without the paperwork. Most people aren't actually married when they walk out the doors & everyone throws rice on them...unless they did something, secret or not, ahead of time.
I fully agree. She can have whatever wedding she wants. She didn’t have to include anyone if she didn’t want to, but she did then did what she wanted. Best of both worlds. Couldn’t imagine my family being so self absorbed that they’d be upset about that.
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Oh yes we did!!!! This is too good!
I love them together as well 🤗
I kinda enjoyed it and like both channels but their energies are so different, not the greatest colab imo
@buuurrrrppppp221 Agreed, I noticed that, too. They carried the show, and it seemed like she wasn't used to their humor.
@@quickchange4386 disagree on that!
Story 6: People with kids are a whole different thing lots of times. If you don't want their kids at your event, they take that shit PERSONALLY. A lot of them just CAN'T understand that not everyone wants kids around all the time.
If she only had THAT day and heard that MarioKart music, she'd have been VEXXED!!! But because she knew she had HER day coming... She charged it.
I'd be like "You enjoyed that chicken or fish dinner I fed you, yeah? You enjoyed that bar you drank at, yeah? You danced and laughed and took pictures, yeah? So what are you actually ON about? If I had MY way... Your kids wouldn't have been there AT ALL. So...? 🤷🏾♀️"
People will complain no matter WHAT you do. Like if you have a destination wedding, you're the asshole because someone can't afford to go.
At the end of the day, it's THEIR wedding. She was a helluva lot more compromising than MANY brides these days.
EXACTLY this. Took the words right out of my brain lol
This!!! I would have mentioned, also if this were my actual wedding, the moment I heard Mario Kart I would have thrown that kid's smart phone in the garbage bin! And sent a dry cleaning bill to the parent who let their kid throw up on my expensive wedding gown!
Exactly, it’s just like people who have Vegas weddings or elopement’s and they have a celebration afterwards, no one will be happy because you don’t have the food THEY like, or the music THEY like, or have it in the destination THEY want, kids attention spans are from her to the door, having a bunch of kids at a wedding, jumping, throwing things, yelling, screaming, and throwing up on people, yuck, no. Not at all.
100% I would not GAF if I was one of those folks only at the “fake” wedding; I’d be grateful to be included in the celebration and give mad props to the married couple for being super smart to make sure they got exactly their dream wedding!
Yes!!!! NTA!!!! It’s their wedding! If they want two different ceremonies then that’s for them. You can’t make everyone happy. She did what was best for them and didn’t stress herself out.
Story 6: I don't understand why people would be upset. You aren't married until you sign the papers anyway. Saying "i do" means nothing (legally). PLUS many cultures have multiple weddings.
The slug guy was messing with her heart medicine too. The slugs were doing cardiac damage and the doctors didn’t know why it was happening but prescribed her meds for it. He’d open the capsules, remove the medicine then put salt in them and close them back up. Her doctors couldn’t figure out why the medicine wasn’t helping and it was because her body was never getting any of the medicine.
Didnt he get diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder?
@@Velvetvixen22probably. He kept trying to excuse it by saying it was bc he loved taking care of her. Sounded like münchausen by proxy to me
He was literally trying to kill her, especially in a way that wouldn’t be tracked to him.
@@Velvetvixen22attempted murderers don’t need diagnoses. I’m a doctor and antisocial personality disorder we usually don’t bother to diagnose in people like this. If they have gone this far there is no rehabilitation in the literature.
Whats the episode they do this on? I've heard Morgan mention the slug video before.
For Story 5 "AITA for suggesting my wife lower her standards" The answer is yes bc that guy just don't wanna parent. And I really disliked the guys's take on that one bc being an active parent ist being nagging and too much, its just being active and caring about your kids's lives. To me it felt like the wife was asking the husband to help out with the bare minimum and he was like "nah lets just not parent and let the kids deal" he is taking on more of a "cool uncle" role rather then the role of a father. I really dislike this guy sm. ALSO I just know if it was the mom taking this kinda role she would be DRAGGED by society for not being " a good mom"
Agreed!! Especially the morning thing like huh I can’t imagine my parents not getting up with me in the morning especially at such young ages tf
THANK YOU. I was looking for this kind of comment. That take was NOT it. Even just the way the guy was describing the situation and his wife was shady and just making himself look good. I'm really disappointed that Morgan didn't pick up on any of that and push back more on what the guys were saying. They literally created this whole narrative about the mom that had nothing to do with the actual story told by the OP. 🙄
all I could think of when they reacted to this story is none of these people are parents and are in for a huge wake up call if and when they are. you can’t just do the bare minimum of giving kids cereal for breakfast especially if they have adhd and literally need healthy fuel to set themselves up for success at school. i have lots of siblings and have nannied for years and it’s so clear behaviorally and developmentally who is getting only screen time and who is getting what they need
If it was a mom who said this, she would be labeled as a neglectful mom, but since it’s a dad it’s just another Tuesday
I honestly am trying my best to not rip apart those British guys before hearing what Morgan has to say. I can believe those guys are defending this deadbeat father
Story 5: those guys had a really shitty take. That OP was a complete AH. The wife is so stressed because her lazy husband won’t help. It’s not that she won’t accept help, he’s a crappy uninvolved father. Won’t get them off to school in the morning, won’t take them out to do things on the weekend. He’s a lazy AH.
Thank you!!! Gobsmacked at their take, ffs, this isn’t a single father so that information was completely irrelevant, he’s a lazy father.
I watch these guys shorts from time to time. They are very funny and also kind off sexist. I was pretty shocked Morgan would invite them. I don’t see how their views align with the purpose of her podcast 👀
Completely agree. Felt like I was going crazy listening to them.
I honestly feel that the dad could do more like breakfast needs to be more than cereal, but she could make stuff ahead of time and then the kids can reheat it. Spending time at home sounds good but the husband does need to figure out where the family goes maybe once every 3 weeks, she does that as well, and then spend one weekend completely at home. I feel like both sides need to change not just her, but I do agree hubs needs to step up.
ESPECIALLY considering the youngest is 8 years old!! the kids are 10, 12 and 8!! 8 year olds are not so independent that they need no help at all in the morning going to school-- and even if he somehow is i would be SO UPSET if my parents were upstairs SLEEPING instead of kissing me bye when im in fucking 2nd grade!
For story 6, I didn’t trick you, I just only invited you to one ceremony. Also, it kinda sounds like the first ceremony was probably to appease the parents and people that would be angry about a “no kids” rule.
Right?? Like the couple very well could’ve just had one small private wedding and not allowed any kids! They went above and beyond (especially $$$) to appease the GUESTS by having a second wedding. People are so weird
@@emilyyy4 people are weird and entitled
For the one with the overwhelmed wife, my mom used to get up every morning and make me a breakfast burrito and walk me to school when I was 13 and in 8th grade. As an adult now, I look back at that time very fondly.
The dad in Story 5 referring to joint parenting as “helping” his wife….. like it’s her job and she’s so lucky that he deigns to assist her and that it’s her fault he can’t make her standards.
As a mom, Story 5 made me so mad! It’s clear the dad wants to do the bare minimum and isn’t helping the mom at all. Those guys are stuck on the cereal thing. That’s the most minuscule issue here compared with everything else OP mentioned. He is an uninvolved dad and mom is picking up all the slack.
2 things can be right at the same time. While yes dad should also wake up for kids to help, the kids can also not have a whole cooked breakfast every day. At the same time you don’t HAVE to set rules ALL THE TIME. Cause why? If it’s at the cost of your stress, why bother when it’s not gonna be the end of the world? That’s the whole point. You don’t have to be rigid all the time. And 9 times out of 10, kids with strict parents tend to rebel more. Cause really, 2 hours of screen time? Weekly outdoor activities? Sometimes kids just need to do whatever tf they want
@@lalibelardo1706 If she’s overworked then isn’t telling her to do less a good thing
He just wants her to chill out a bit nothing wrong with being a bit lazy
It’s not neglectful it’s just stress free
Stress is bad
Remove the stress and you will be more productive later on
It’s called self induced hibernation
Everyone always complains that they gotta get up and do something
I’m with the dad a bit
Just don’t no one is making you
Y’all are just doing more than you have to and making your lives exponentially more difficult for no reason
If she’s overworked then isn’t telling her to do less a good thing
He just wants her to chill out a bit nothing wrong with being a bit lazy
It’s not neglectful it’s just stress free
Stress is bad
Remove the stress and you will be more productive later on
It’s called self induced hibernation
Everyone always complains that they gotta get up and do something
I’m with the dad a bit
Just don’t no one is making you
Y’all are just doing more than you have to and making your lives exponentially more difficult for no reason
Being a parent is different tho I would only be like the dad if we didn’t have kids
And I still think like the mom, kids need breakfast. Cereal is just sugar thats gonna crash them in a few hours, this shouldnt be daily at all
About the double wedding story: why on earth is it “fake” to have 2 ceremonies? It doesn’t make either fake. Just one is for the masses and one for the bride & groom. Both ceremonies and vows are valid and plenty of people have gotten married and not signed the official paperwork to be legally married on the day of the ceremony or prior. If you don’t file the paperwork prior you technically won’t be legally married until the paperwork is in but that doesn’t make you any less a married couple. People need to chill and let the couple honor their the way they want as many times as they want.
This comment is what I came looking for!!! I don’t understand why everyone is loosing it. Like if someone eloped and did another wedding after everyone would be fine, but because of the switched order now it’s a bad move?
I agree! I don't understand why people care so much. They got to attend and enjoy the wedding? It's not your wedding so it's not your choice, she wasn't a bridezilla and she found a compromise that worked. Don't see why people are so worked up over it
This! On top of the fact that OP mentioned the 1st one was a church ceremony so their religion may not recognize marriage without that piece anyway
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I feel like the difference between a single mom and single dad household is that it's easier for a man to find other "female" supports to provide that missing role than it is more a single mom to find an accepting partner for the "father" role.
And people OFFER more help to single fathers, cause they know they need it. Whereas people expect single mothers to be able to handle everything and get offered help far less. The way they read the stat was so skewed and borderline misogynistic
Story 5: My 9yo brother has ADHD and absolutely CANNOT get ready on his own. He gets distracted by even the smallest things, so my mom still helps him get ready for school and while she and my dad are at work, I pick him up from school because there's no way he can get home by himself even if it's a short distance. Letting him wake up on his own and getting ready on his own is not an option. I also have a 12 yo sister. She should absolutely not be responsible for getting my brother ready, just like how OP wanted his kids to do. Kids don't like listening to their siblings, and kids should not be responsible for their siblings. I work at nights and sleep during the day, and I still get myself out of bed to pick up my brother BECAUSE HE'S A KID. HE NEEDS SOMEONE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIM. And the screen time limitation is absolutely a good thing. My family doctor recommended my brother have less screen time because of his ADHD, so my parents limit his.
Of course, all of this is just based off of personal experience, and I'm not even a parent, but I still know what it's like for kids to get ready for school since I still live at home with my parents and some siblings. OP can get his butt out of bed an hour earlier to help at out least once a week (twice is ideal). He can plan outings, even if it's just something as simple as going to the park. He is not as involved as he thinks he is, and I'm glad reddit actually tore him apart and agreed he's the AH.
Story 5- After they have kids, I'm going to need everyone to come back and revist this . I guarantee their opinion will change. My daughter is ADHD and OCD, 9 years old. She can not get ready on her own, she cant just focus on brushing her teeth, cant focus on just getting dressed. Think of "oh a squirrel"
I have ADHD and I'm 27 and I still really struggle to brush my teeth. My partner reminds me basically every night and has me go with them to do it because I just wont on my own. People fail to realize that habits and routines like that don't exist the same way for neurotypical people.
I think they got to it eventually the beginning Fuhad had me lost
I would love to see Morgan invite more therapists/counselors onto the show! I loved the past THT episodes with therapists because of the way they handle the AITA stories; they don’t apply blame to one person, but break down the situation to dissect the pieces to understand the root of the problem. I like that approach to the AITA stories the best!
Story 5: I really dislike the statistic of the single parent households, it is always taken extremely out of context. Moms have to work more because of the wage gap that is very much so still around. Women are less likely to receive help because of the patriarchal expectations for women. Women are also less likely to find partners after having kids. So why do kids in single mom households have more problems than single man? MY question for YOU is WHY WOULDN'T THEY. They get scrutinized by society, no financial help, and are often overworked and isolated. DO BETTER.
Yes!!! This! Up
YESSSSS THIS
I LOVE that they even went, "Yeah because they will get help from their mom/sister whoever" so... WOMEN are still raising that child? If I was in Morgan's spot I'd rip them a new asshole, absolutely atrocious idiocy.
I think it’s cause dads have more of a back seat role in letting them “make their own choices”
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Story 8: as someone who has an unhoused brother who is an addict and has stolen from family, I am 100% with OP on this. My brother and I were best friends before everything happened with him, and I don’t hate him or even blame him for his addiction, but you do get to a point where you have to prioritize yourself and your family over someone who has screwed your over multiple times, family or otherwise. If he called me and said I need a ride to rehab, I’d drop everything and take him. But there’s no way I’d let him into my home in this situation.
Fuhad and James had covered the first story before on their channel and their first reaction lives rent free in my head 😂
Which video can we see it on?
on story 5--when i was a kid, my mom only allowed me 2 hours of tv time. i had poker chips that symbolized 30-minute increments, and i would give them to her to keep track of how much i had watched in the day. it was actually SO fun. i would sit with the tv guide in the morning and pick out which shows i was going to watch that day, and i was able to do other things with my time. i'm so grateful to my mom for doing that, and i hope to do the same with my future kids one day.
story 8: i don’t care if it’s 3 days, she said no because his brother has taken advantage of them before. and he still let it happen. that’s on him
exactly, you made your bed now lie in it!
OP said no to his brother coming to their house but the husband still put his family in danger, and insisted on his wife coming home to fix the mess he made, despite the fact she recently gave birth and there are three other children at home to parent.
I would do the same, husband has no right to be mad about the consequences of his actions.
@@ladyk3729I understand having loyalty to your sibling. I have three and them being homeless would kill me and I would try whatever I could to help them out. But if I had a spouse and children and he had proved to be unreliable and potentially a danger to them, the sibling simply wouldn’t be allowed near them til I knew they were better. And more fuckign importantly!!!! If my spouse said no then it’s a fuckign no my guy!!! Spouse>everyone but the kids!!!!
story 5: mom and dad definitely need to figure out a compromise. mom needs a break, and dad might not be as engaged as he thinks he is. dont agree about asking the 12 year old to take on some of the responsibility at all. the parents should be getting the kids fed and ready in the morning, not their older sibling
ShxtsNgGigs and Two Hot Takes is the collaboration we all needed
I love the casual "Like what?" She had James catching himself so damn fast 😂
This is the trio I need! I love these guys haha
Story #4 response:
When we were younger my husband and I went to a party at a friends house. He got reeeeally drunk, and threw up in the bathroom sink. He then proceeded to take the sink apart, drain the vomit into the toilet and put the sink back together. He wiped the sink out after with some Clorox and that was that. I was actually really impressed.
If my husband could do all of that while drunk, this woman’s husband can at the very least clean after himself while sober the next day.
Story 5 reactions from the guys is insane omg the dad literally doesn’t want to parent his children and then gets mad his wife is frustrated
i enjoy when the conversations make every person rethink their take. it's so nice seeing how this show affects people's empathy and understanding in real time. this was so much fun to watch
Everyone's talking about story 5, but I'm way more invested in 6 and 7. The POVs are such a good back and forth. I found myself agreeing with everyone and i love how complex it got. Loving this collab!! ❤
Side note: my sister did a wedding like that after her courthouse wedding and she was so happy through the whole wedding. She let people know right before the ceremony started.
My mom was not a go mom. She stayed in bed, never cooked never cleaned, and she didn't go to any school functions or anything. I wish she would have been more like this mom. I would have done anything for this kind of mom.
there’s a happy medium in between, there’s so much pressure to have “perfect” children on the kids when you want to be a “perfect” mum
@@charlyyyyyyyyyyI feel the mom was attentive to make sure they have a lot of mental stimulation to just in general be there for them. I feel they should definitely talk to the children about going out on the weekend because they may just want to stay home or do something different. But having a mom wake up with you and make sure you’re on time for class I feel shows they care about your general well being. I feel the husband should step up and handle some of the days and planning. He just doesn’t want to imo the mom would be a lot less overwhelmed if he contributed more.
@@charlyyyyyyyyyyI feel the mom isn’t trying to be perfect but actually a present parent and a good mom
For story number 5....I was a really independent child because I was an only child and my parents had to work a lot. My grades suffered, I had behavioral issues and I really wish I had a little more discipline growing up. I don't blame my parents one bit because as immigrants they had to go to work to provide. Now if my parents were home and chose not to be parents....that's different. He's the asshole and she's awesome. I feel for her.
For Story 6; As a photographer, I always ask couples if they're open to a separate day for pictures of either just them or parents and them. It opens up so much time and gets rid of an insane amount of stress. Not a lot of people are willing to but those that have done this said it's the best decision they made.
Story 6: a traditional wedding and private ceremony are really common now. It being fake because they didn’t sign a certificate is stupid. They should be glad they were invited to anything since they clearly just wanted to elope.
Story 5: I believe that every couple should have at least one conversation about parenting styles before having kids together. If the parenting styles clash and cause arguments, it is better to just break up and find someone who will put the same effort as you into raising and parenting. Sooooo many couples do not do this and that's why we get so many crazy parenting stories from reddit. They definitely did not communicate about that before they had their children if he thinks she has high standards, because if they had a conversation PRIOR to having THREE children, we wouldn't be listening to this story.
Sometimes it's not even that simple or the conversations need to be more than surface level - a lot of men's definitions of involved parenting are different and I think sentiments change once the kids are there
If he finds a woman that has the same level of parenting as him, I hope to God they don’t have children!
For Story 2:
The dude added sawdust because he read cellulose is often a food additive which is often derived from sawdust.
Key word being DERIVED . Thus guy could have killed he girlfriend.
Cellulose is found in all plants, in the cell wall 😭 he really is stupid asf
Yeah food grade cellulose and literal wood chips are certainly interchangeable 🙄 dude's a moron
Not to mention he probs doesn't know where the sawdust comes from, like he doesn't know if it came from planks treated with chemicals and shit😱🤢
Omg I totally forgot that wood is treated. I highly doubt he even thought about that since he's so superficial.
Morgan’s “viola” pronunciation has to be the best one yet!! 🤣 I loved this podcast so much Morgan! Two of my fave podcasts into one. Thank you for all your hard work!!
I was waiting for this comment 😂
Viola instead of viola forsure took me out lmao
😂😂😂
Was looking for this comment lol
Came here for this comment…. It was so cute
As far as the 1st story.. The experience she is imagining, and literally dreaming of, is so far removed/in the past, and layered with her current situation… I truly feel that she is tarnishing her current relationship, with someone that seems to really love her, for this idealized moment that can never actually be recreated. Especially with the added pressure she’s putting on it, possibly unknowingly… She’s literally destroying her partners memory of her and their love before she’s even gone..
Story #2) the lengths some men will go to avoid just having real/hard conversations with their partners…
Right?! That story escalated so quickly I was like wtf 😳
Story 5 really made me think.
I am definitely the kind of mom that wants to do all the things for my kids (they are toddlers so a bit different), and I do experience burnout from time to time. I did have to lessen my load for my own sanity, and to stop being such a stressed out mom, my kids don’t deserve that, so I CAN see where the dad is coming from.
HOWEVER, I was also the kid who had to get myself and my younger brother ready for school starting at the young age of 7, and didn’t see my mom until 6 pm. She was a single mom who had to work so I can’t blame her as an adult, but as a child, it was hard. Making breakfast, making our lunches, sometimes dinner, getting the house picked up, and my brother ready and out the door, sometimes at separate schools. If my parents were just laying in my bed while I did all of these things, I’d wonder why my mom/parents didn’t care enough for me to help.
I think it’s important for kids to learn how to do things on their own, but at the same time, kids are only kids once, and then they’re adults caring for themselves and others for the rest of their lives.. I don’t think parents appreciate those mundane things they can do for their kids, until they’re moved out and the house is always clean, and you never have to cook breakfast, or get kids out of the house at a certain time. It’s a sad feeling that you don’t understand until it’s too late.
Story 5 the mom is setting her kids up for success with structure! Teaching them routine and responsibilities. I get that she may need to calm down here and there but the father needs to step up! Giving young kids structure is the best way to ensure you have fully functioning independent teens and adults
Mom doesn’t need to calm down, dad needs to step up and she will automatically calm down. It’s wild his solution to the problem is do nothing lol
Story 6 really reminds me of the episode of how I met your mother when Lily and Marshall got married. The day was turning out to be a complete disaster so they had a secret and quick ceremony out in the yard to have their perfect moment and then went back to the actual wedding and were able to have a good time with everyone.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, LET'S NEVER MENTION THE COCONUT STORY AGAIN. 😭 Every time I get it out of my head, we have to go and talk about it more, like can we please move on?! 😂
I don't mind thinking about it but I have to wonder about Morgan's fixation
I really also don't want to hear about this anymore. Like ever 😢
I second this. I think if Morgan wants to post it on Patreon, that’s totally fine (like what she did here). But please, can we not mention it on the main channel anymore? It’s too much.
I swung from super excited to irrationally angry at the mention of that story again... was ready to just close the video in disgust before learning it's only on Patreon.
Like, Morgan, PLEASE begging you to let it go. If you feel the need to put it on Patreon out of fear of the reaction, then you obviously know that the audience doesn't like it.... So what's the DEAL? What is that story doing for YOU? Is it the story itself that's titillating? Or is it the negative reaction of the audience that's enjoyable?
@@rpstgagI think she just likes talking about it because it's weird and sex related, which she also has an odd obsession for
Story 6: It’s annoying that people have such an opinion and get so mad, because at the end of the day, the day is not about anyone but the two people getting married. The fact that they even set another day for everyone to come to is enough because they went out of their way to make sure people could be at one, while at the same time having what she wanted.
And none of them know what a legal marriage actually is. Everyone's church wedding is legally meaningless until they file paperwork in court. A wedding is just a performance.
i fricken love the humour these two guys have 😂 i was on the treadmill and was laughing out loud 😂 people around me were glancing my way 😅
I HAVE NEVER CLICKED ON A VIDEO SO QUICKLY!!!! i haven’t even started watching but i just KNOW this ep will be one for the record books
THESE WERE SOME HOT TAKES !! I didn’t agree with the husband not waking up in the morning to help his wife . he could deff be doing more
My only comment for story 5 about the morning schedule. I'm a pretty independent kid and did everything on time alone, but my friend I went to school with has ADHD had no time management skills as a kid. Her mom had to tell her how much time she had to eat and keep making her eat and not get distracted. So I can sympathize with the mom not wanting the kids to be late to school and keep them focused.
The sawdust guy could have known about sawdust because of the Great Depression. I remember learning about the Great Depression in school and learning that they used to put sawdust in bread and other things to help make it more filling. Since flour and other things were either too expensive or harder to come by. 😬
Sawdust has commonly been used as a filler in foods since 1970s, labeled as “cellulose” (wood/ or cotton pulp) still in a lot of processed food unfortunately..
Story 6: not the asshole, ive seen WAYY too many videos of people ruining their family members wedding and laughing it off like it’s a joke, kids will ruin cakes, ruin the event place, ruin the dress and people laugh and play it off as “kids being kids” I’ve already decided there’s not gonna be kids at my wedding and im only 19, not planned on getting married anytime soon but i just can’t stand when people ruin others special day cause they just HAVE to have their kids with them for this ONE day. And it’s not even a full day, it’s a couple hours, if you can’t be away from your kids for a couple hours don’t go to the event.🤷🏼♀️
I am baffled at the response to the wedding story!! I feel like it has become so much more common for people to do an intimate ceremony and a big ceremony/celebration. I know so many people (including myself) who have done this and have never heard anyone complain/think it’s being “fake”. I always recommend people do it this way lol you really get the best of everything!
The 5th story had me yelling at Morgan! I could tell you thought he was being sarcastic when he said he totally agrees with the dad and I feel like your opinion swayed because of theirs. I may be wrong though. I think that mom sounds like a really good attentive mom. I can't imagine leaving my kids to get up by themselves and leave the house without a word. Loved the collab though.
I think Morgan did a great job of course correcting while still being her usual very gentle self
Why mad at Morgan and not at the guys? We know she gives a bit more of liberty for the guests so they can talk. For me he wasn’t being sarcastic, if he was he could correct himself but he double down
Definitely, I feel like if this was with Alej or Lauren they would have be screaming and hollering (in a good way) for the dad to step up. I also feel like she was ready to do that then she felt their vibes and waited for them. And agree with first commenter she Definitely was trying to course correct and knew how this was gonna go in the comments.
I skipped the rest of the story I was almost 😤
I wonder what Justin, Alejandra, Lauren, and ur dad’s take would be on story 5🤔
I feel like her dad would've been SO upset with the guy!!
Also wondering this! I hope she tells this story on FKS
I want them to replay with audio and get their hot take on this hot take lmao
I would love to hear Ale and Lauren’s takes instead of men spouting ignorance
My goodness, story number 5 has me shocked. That wife deserves a better husband. That mother is being a good mum, and that dad is so lazy. I am fuming!
50:53 as a stressed out mommy and wifey, I definitely needed to hear this take on story 5. I put sooooo much pressure on myself and my husband always tells me to slow down and I just feel like the entire earth would come to a screeching halt if I sat down for just a moment. Thank you kind sir ♥️
An Ex calling you out of the blue to tell you they cheated 11 years ago is mental! You can tell they’ve been living with the guilt and just wanted to feel better, that’s just for them.
WE NEEDED THIS COLLAB! I’ve never clicked an episode so fast. And I LOVE the spooky intro
girl same, I was watching SNGs newest episode and saw THT with SNGS on the side and clicked it right away.
No, for real I literally started off watching THT was my first podcast and then I jumped on SNG and these are the only two podcasts that I watch. I never knew this was a Collab that I needed.
I am freaking out!😂💜 I love you guys separately but I love you together even more!!
Story 5: 2 hours is the max a day kids should be using devices out of school work. There is research that has been done in this. My youngest is 7, he gets his own breakfast. The older teens have helped themselves to breakfast since they were around 5. It is teaching independence and life skills. I partner also takes the kids to school 2 to 3 times a week and that includes lunches and getting them ready. OP could get up once or twice a week and ensure the kids have eaten and out the door on the bus to give her a break.
I use to take my kids out EVERY weekend. My partner worked away, so it was all on me. However, the planing was we are going here, we need these things, and kids packed their own bags. It sounds like she micro managers the planning from how he put it. But that could just be his perception.
It feels like there is a massive difference in parenting styles and him not understanding the mental load the default parent carries. Can he name the kids teachers, what about doctors, or even what year at school they are in? Is there difference uniforms the kids have to have each day, if so, does he know that without being told. Does he organise and spend time one on one with each child? This is extremely important to have stable parent / child relationships.
Genius is having a second ceremony. Brilliant way to deal with all the wedding drama and BS
THIS IS THE COLLAB IVE WAITED FOREVER FOR!! ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE!!
I didn’t agree with all the points in story 5 but I loved the conversation! I’m so happy that Morgan shared so much of her POV. Oh and I totally agree about the screen time limit being good but putting a strict time on it would make me cheat on it too😂
The parent story is really tough because everyone has a different view on what parenting should look like. I think establishing a schedule, enacting discipline, and planning enrichment activities for young kids is important for raising them. Not every family looks and acts the same, so there really is no right answer. I just think that if the mom is the only one putting effort into these things (and OP just gets to be the “cool dad”), it’s no surprise she’s feeling burnt out. Parenting is, ideally, a partnership, so they really need to team up and find a compromise.
Exactly
Morgan, I love you with these guys. The way you speak and the general vibe/attitude you have in the discussion and as a supportive role... Chef's kiss! Keep doing what you do.
48:51 As much as I get what he's saying, I've seen it first hand. Dad accepts help and everyone is like, "Oh yeah. Ill help. Raising kids is hard." Mom asks for help and you get, "Well you chose this." Or "I never got breaks when my kids were little" or "I guess you just struggle because being a mom isn't your thing."
There is a double standard a lot. Not all the time, but a lot.
Omg perfect timing for the pages and pages of notes I’m about to have to do! Love the podcast!!
ABSOLUTELY FAVORITE EPISODE EVERY! I LAUGHED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PODCAST. I WILL WATCH THIS AGAIN. 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Saw the sawdust story on Smosh, too, it's really interesting to see reactions from both them and you! It's like getting two cakes instead of one lol
Story 5, Thats a good mom. Thats a good ass mom! She cares about her kids mental and physical health! The parents obviously didn't discuss a parenting style. And i personally think the dad thinks he's doing more than he actually is.
for story 5, my mom got up every single day to see us off to school until we were i dont know how old. she was fighting ovarian cancer and she made sure we were fed and ready every single morning. she passed 1.5 months ago and those mornings are one of my fondest memories of her. i was fully able to get ready myself, but her being there was invaluable and i miss her a lot.