Thanks for feedback! It definitely is - I actually remade the video because of that. Hope that one is better! Epic Certifications: The Five Basic Questionsth-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
@@briankfung its not the music you just have it too loud a common mistake, but I know you looked for "curious music 1" the music is fine just overpowering your voice.
Hey Donna! Yes - I completely agree. I actually created a new video because of that. Hope this one is a lot better: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
Hi Phoebe! Appreciate the feedback! I'm trying to work on articulating my points more clearly and succinctly. With that said, I did remake this video to hopefully capture that: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html Hope that one is better! Thanks for stopping by
Instead of thinking certifications or training, consider your long term goals. What would you like to do in the future? Usually, training and/or certifications that are agnostic to the EHR (e.g. MediTech) are ideal if they align with your long term goals.
Certainly can. Not really dependent on your job/title, especially for proficiency, but more so whether you work at an Epic org since that is what allows you to access the training materials.
You have to be sponsored by either an Epic org (ie working for an org that has Epic) or through Epic themselves (work for Epic). You can also go through a consulting company to get certified.
The official answer is that it isn't possible. The unofficial answer is that there are likely unsanctioned trainings out there floating around that people are using to teach this.
Hi Shravlogz! You can find the link to create an account at: userweb.epic.com/. However, you won't be able to create an account if you don't currently work directly for Epic or an institution that has, or currently converting to, Epic. Hope that helps!
This is a bit of a difficult question to answer as the pay range is dependent on many different factors (e.g. geographical location, education experience, skillset, etc). Further, there are many types of Epic certifications. An Epic certification in Willow (typically those with pharmacy background) will likely yield a very different pay range than those with Cadence (scheduling). So it'd likely depend on which Epic certification you're aiming for and I'm unsure of which one you'd be most suitable for as a medical technologist.
Hey sir, I just got my epic willow certification and working on inventory and cogito bi developer, I’m also a advanced pharmacy technician. Would you know the salary marketability of all those skills
that's a great question. It really depends and varies depending on geographic location, organization, and your own years of experience. Have you checked out glassdoor or linkedin? I'd suspect the range to be between 70k - 150k.
Hi Teta. Every organization usually has their own institution-specific workflows on how to perform certain functions within Epic (e.g. charting information). If you haven't been provided that information during your onboarding process, I'd suggest submitting a help desk ticket to inquire about Epic EHR training.
I am currently onboarding as a medical scribe at a hospital that uses Epic and in school for my BS in Health Informatics and am wanting to become an epic analyst. I see a lot of people saying to network to get their foot in the door. Do I ask my manager for advice or do I pop into the health IT department at the hospital for help with certification??
As cliche as 'networking' is, it's quite influential in getting to where you may want to be in the future. I think starting with your manager sounds like a good plan. A supportive manager should certainly be willing to support you in your goals - and if that includes epic training - I'd think they'd help create a path with you on how to do so.
Hello, I am a registered nurse and I am looking to get into casemanagent and the billing side of infusion billing. Being an RN would I need to take all of the prereq? Please let me know. Thank you
Hi Frances. I don't think I full understand your question. Are you referring to pre-reqs for a case management job, degree or certification? Or are you talking about a pre-req for Epic certifications? If the former, I'm not entirely sure. If the latter, there are no pre-reqs.
Anyone, regardless of background, can get epic certifications. There are only a few paths: 1) work for epic, 2) work for an org that has epic, 3) work for or start your own epic consulting.
Hi Kelly! Thanks for the feedback. I created this video very early on and wish I didn't include it! I remade the video later on with lower background music.
the background music is so annoying making me hard to understand what he is talking about , after 2 mins i gave up , i don't understand anything after all
Hi Richard, this is a great question. Relatively speaking, especially compared to the opportunities in the last decade, absolute yes. HITECH & Meaningful use really drove the insane demand for EHR implementations and that was the primary pathway in which folks get hired. Most large orgs already have an EHR implemented now so the demand is lower. However, Epic is also expanding international and you can see some of their EHR implementations in Europe, Africa, and Asia. So if you're interested in that, the opportunities are higher. Somewhat related, but different vendor, is the Cerner opportunities. DoD and VA has the ongoing project with Cerner over the next 10 years or so and the opportunities there will likely be higher than Epic, relatively speaking, as they convert all of their hospitals and clinics over to Cerner.
Brian Fung Brian how to I become an epic certified nurse ? I’m trying to get into clinical informatics . I need guidance to get into epic certification . Thank you
@utopia - that's a hard question to answer without more background details. I'm assuming you're a nurse already looking to get into clinical informatics. If yes, the best guidance I can give about getting an Epic certification is to 1) work for epic, 2) apply to an organization that has Epic, or 3) get a consulting job with agencies that specialize in Epic installs/optimizations.
Brian Fung yes I’m a clinical nurse (RN) with masters in nursing . I tried applying for epic , but they require certification or informatics background. Epic wont certify you until an employer sends for a training :(
@@Utopiavlogs That sounds about right. Most institutions will only hire Epic certified analysts for Epic roles - it's less common (but not impossible) to hire someone without one because there are quite a few individuals with Epic certifications and there are less demand for large-scale Epic implementations back when Meaningful Use was around. As for Epic themselves, they usually hire right out of college from people with all sorts of backgrounds, both technical and nontechnical. If you're currently working for a hospital and they have Epic, the best bet would be to talk with your current institution to do proficiency training (you don't need to go to Epic to get proficiency training). You'll just need to inquire how you can take the test via their proctoring since every institution is different. Hope that helps!
You seem so smart can you tell me where on Epic can I enter Family Physician ( PCP) or patient contacts and does RTE queriesare are used for which courageous? OHIP or all insurance. I am struggling with this new software.
That's a good question, though it's a bit difficult to answer since every Epic installation/implementation is different as each organization configures things slightly differently for their providers. However, in general, many of those fields, including PCP and insurance information is entered during patient intake (e.g. new hospital admit, outpatient visit). They're usually required fields.
Brian, any tips on how to get a job in Epic without having an Epic certification? I am wanting to work in Epic but every time I apply to organizations they always require a certificate. I am wanting to start a new career in the Healthcare field due to my mom passing away from cancer. It is my goal/passion to work in the medical field. I have over 10+ years of IT experience but it has been tough trying to find a role that relates to Epic without a cert. Thank you for your help and advice. -Andrew
Hi, I applied for Junior System Admin and I've scheduled EPIC SKILL ASSESSMENT exam for next week. Is there a way I could take a practice exam? Thanks 😊
Hm, this is a great question, but I'm not sure. I don't think so either..? If it's similar to the sphinx exam, it's usually a test of logic and reasoning since that's how Epic configs usually work. Just be wary of orgs out there that charge lots of money for things like that. There may be some blogs or forums where ppl talk about this. Sorry not more help!
Thanks for the insight, it was very informative however, could you kindly not play or tune down the background instrumentals, it's very distracting,had to listen again and again to get some salient points.
Hey Jake! Thanks for the feedback. I apologize for the horrible audio in this video and completely agree with turning down the background music. I will certainly keep that in mind for my future videos!
Hello, I am a CST certified surgical Technologist. with the shortage of RNs. CSTs would like to go back into charting. CST were allowed to in the 1970s. We are seeing an increase need for all CST to become certified. Could you do some for OR EPIC.
That's an interesting topic to explore. Charting, while likely influenced by society, also appears to be institution specific. I'm not aware of CST's not being able to chart currently, but I wouldn't be surprised either. If that's something you desire, I imagine you'll need to drum up some support for that on a larger level in addition to your local institution. As for OR Epic, what are you interested in specifically? I dabbled a bit in some of the OR certifications, but I'm certainly not an expert in it.
Hi All , need some inputs here I am currently in a IT services industry for 2 years and recently got opportunity to take on EPIC certification to provide support for a client , is it worth taking this certification and what are the opportunites that will be available to me if I am experienced in this skill . Kindly let me know thanks
Definitely worthwhile imo as it’s quite the commodity with recruiters. Opportunities are as epic analysts, which every hospital with epic requires. Epic and cerner are the two dominant EHRs in the country so job opportunities are definitely available. Good luck!
Hey Makai! Certainly appreciate the feedback and I've actually remade the video because of that. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html - hope it helps!
You'll have to be working for Epic directly or working with an institution that has/plans to convert to Epic. If that's true, you can create a free userweb account and start working on proficiency. However, you'll have to work with your institution to take the exams as it'll be arranged by your institutions proctors and onsite testing locations. Best to begin by asking your local Epic team to find out the process as each institution is different
Hi Brian.. hope you are doing well. Well i was looking for the epic certification process and got your vedio on list. I am a avid user of epic and working with US healthcare firm. Could you please help me out with the idea where do I get the epic certification. That would be most kind of you if i get a better platform to get certified in EPIC. Thanks in advance
Hey Sandeep! The only way you can get certified is if you already work for an organization that has Epic. Once you do, your email will allow you to access the training materials. The two other ways are typically if you work for Epic directly or through an consulting agency that consults for Epic. Hope that helps!
Thanks for the comments! I unfortunately can’t modify the sound in this video, but I did create an entirely new one with updated content. There should be a link from this video to the new video. Let me know if you can’t find it
Hi Micah! I have not heard of that no. The two primary ways of getting certified or proficient in Epic are the ones I describe in the video. There are some other ways as well, but those usually include some variation of the former, which is by working for private consulting firms for Epic.
read through the materials, take the practice tests, go through all the homework and quizzes, and make sure to read each of the exclamation marks and you'll be good!
Hey liam - I'm not sure if free is possible. However, if you're looking to connect to Epic data, their App Orchard is where you want to start exploring: apporchard.epic.com/
That's a great question, but not one that I have good insight into. My understanding of it is that it tests your logic skills. Thus, I think if you're proficient in working through those types of problem sets, you'll be fine. However, I also know there are other topic areas on the exam that are covered. I've asked Epic about this in the past and they aren't allowed to share. I'd probably suggest talking to others that have taken it - there's lots of forums online that discuss it.
Hello,I currently work for a hospital that uses Epic. If I understand you correctly, I can simply take the proficiency test and materials byself to become epic certified? Thank you so much for your reply,Crystal
Hey Crystal - that is correct! If your organization already has Epic, you can sign up for a free Epic userweb account. Once you have access, you can jump into their course catalog and browse the various Epic courses you'd like to take! Something to point out, every institution has different policies and procedures in how they administer the proctored examinations - you'll have to ask your Epic analysts/search your intraweb for what that is. Usually it's just a matter of figuring out who can proctor tests at your organization and at what dates. Hope that helps!
The big ones are inpatient orders, inpatient clinical documentation, and willow inpatient. However, I’d suggest chatting with the current analysts at your org to determine where there’s need and consider those as well! Hope that helps!
Hi Mariel! I sure can! I'll likely do a video on it to explain some more of the infection control module. If I may ask, are you going to be placed in the infection control team or another team as well?
Hey Joan - that's a great question, but i'm not entirely sure as each epic implementation may have certain nuances to consider. I'd suggest reaching out to your epic colleagues in revenue cycle to get that answered.
Hey! just wanting to clarify, are you asking about Epic end-user training for your hospital or are you looking to get Epic certification as an analyst?
That's a great question and it depends on your organization and how much they want to invest into training. In my experience, super users are not usually "Epic certified". They are usually taught my Principal & Credentialed Trainers who are Epic Certified. Super users are usually individuals who have an interest in being more proficient in Epic to assist their colleagues and usually take an institution-developed course to become "super users". Important to note, this is just my experience and every institution does this a bit differently.
thanks for the feedback! I actually created a new video about Epic certifications here: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html Hope the revised version is better!
Hi Edica - great question. It kind of depended on the certification. Usually I'd take it after I completed the project (highly, highly recommended) and the length of time that took usually depended on which certification it was. For example, the Willow inpatient project took me about 1-2 weeks and the Bugsy infection control one took me about 3 days. I think it's ideal to take it as soon as you can after class, but only after you completed the project as it helps to cement your learning.
Hi Krutarth! I would think so - usually it’s in the appendix of the training companions. If there isn’t, I’d probably just suggest going through all the stop signs to make sure you understand the content or messaging your trainers to see if they have any practice problem suggestions. Hope that helps!
The only two tiers I’m aware of are certification and proficiency. Certification is usually 85% and proficiency is 75%. There’s another exam called the Sphinx exam, which I’m not familiar with, and I’m not sure how they rate that one
Only if your employer is Epic/transitioning to Epic or you work for Epic directly. If not, you’ll have to obtain a job that is in order to do it on your own. Hope that helps!
Hi Sonika - the get certified you have to be an employee of an institution that already has Epic or one that is planning on converting to Epic. If you are, then you can simply create an account on Epic's userweb site with your institutional login to complete proficiency training or talk to your institution about getting sent to Madison for certification training. Hope that helps!
Hi Martrez, it might be difficult to find anything concrete on what the training is like since sharing of Epic materials is prohibited. Additionally, if you want recognition for the training, you actually have to be registered and take exams to get your certificate.
Are there any training vids that you know of specifically for pharmacy? If a person is certified pharmacy technician but is coming back without prior experience, one would need some additional familiarization.
Hey Grant - are you asking about training videos for pharmacy in general - or training videos for pharmacy training within Epic? I'm assuming the latter since your question is within this video. If that's the case, there are no (or at least there shouldn't be) videos related to Epic training because all of that content is proprietary. Epic training materials cannot be shared unless you're currently working at an institution with Epic. Hope that helps!
Brian, I work for a company that is in the beginning of EPIC implementation. Since I am not certified, I am having a hard time getting into an analyst role. How/ where do I find the materials to work through becoming proficient? Also can proficiency be completed in 6 months.
bodacious - I've been certified in 2 apps for a couple of years and when we began implementation, the build team was selected internally and our HCS sponsored our build teams to be certified in their apps. Certification can definitely be completed within 6 months. As for materials - Epic is proprietary and they keep things under wraps, but if your HCS has begun the process, you should be able to register for a Userweb account at userweb.epic.com. Good luck!
Kimberly gave a great succinct answer there and basically - if your implementation has already begun, you should already be able to go to the userweb and download training modules that you can complete on your own. Proficiency can certainly be done in 6 months. I did willow inpatient proficiency in 4 weeks, reporting workbench in 2 weeks, infection control in 3 days, clinical decision support 2014 (it's retired now) in 5 days, and willow inpatient graduate in 2 weeks. Willow inpatient i spent 8 hours/day on, the others were between 3-5 hours/day. Hope that helps!
Hi Keyda! What are you specifically learning more about? Most of the information, at least the nitty gritty details, are proprietary so it isn't accessible to the public. However, you should be able to find a decent amount of information via forums and Epic's main website: www.epic.com/
The only way is to work for an institution that has Epic or is beginning their Epic implementation. If you do work for an institution that has Epic, you just need to navigate over to the Epic userweb, create a free userweb account, and browse through the certifications they have.
I have a lot of experience as a product/project manager in ecommerce. Do you have any idea how I might transition to healthcare and get Epic certified?
Hi M A! PM experience is certainly helpful in the world of EHR implementations as PMs are needed for these large-scale projects. The easiest way would be to search for PM jobs for institutions that are about to implement Epic for the first time or just installing new Epic modules.
Hi Brian - After going through training in madison, wi and i still don't get the certification. How many times can i retake the certification test? Is the certification for one module or all of the modules?
Hi Krutarth - great question! The number of times you can retake a certification test is 3. After 3 failed attempts, you cannot retake it again until you re-attend the entire course. This holds true for proficiency as well as certification. If you fail that test 5 times, every retake after that will require you to retake the entire course prior to an additional retake. The certification is for the specific module you're taking. A module, like willow inpatient, has 4 parts to it with homework assignments, projects, and 3 exams, but you'll have to complete all of it to get certified in willow inpatient.
How do I earn epic credentials? I have applied for several EPIC Credentialed Trainer positions. The reason I’m choosing to get into this field is because currently I’m pursuing a M.Ed in Curriculum and Instruction and I want to learn more about instructional design.
Hi John, it’s truly only through an institution that already has epic. So you’re in the right direction applying for those positions. Once you get hired, you’ll have access to get training to any Epic module you like. Hope that helps!
Brian Fung Thanks I got in contact with one of the directors at the hospital where I work and the she said the same thing that you just said. I will begin getting the training once I’m hired. I also had a question regarding what the avg salary is if you know by any chance.
That's a great question. The ranges I have seen are quite large, between 45k-75k. I hope that helps, I'm assuming factors such as location, experience, and formal didactic training will play a role. I actually don't see too many credentialed trainers with M.Ed, so I think that'll be a great leveraging tool to use in negotiations. Best of luck!!
definitely! Make sure to negotiate up though! It's anecdotal, but I definitely don't see someone with your credentials in the CT roles. I think that should at least add another 3-5k to your range! good luck!
@@briankfung I saw this revised version right after I commented on the original one. Thanks for listening and quickly modifying it. Great Improvement! But do you really need a background sound 🙊😊🤐
You’re right, it definitely hasn’t. I’m not sure why either. However, I think I might work on a few epic certification videos this weekend! Thanks for the reminder!
Hi Edrian, you can only get certified if you currently work for an institution that already has Epic or is planning on installing Epic. Additionally, it's not really which countries accept Epic certification. Institutions that have Epic will recognize it, otherwise it's not useful to non-Epic institutions.
Brian Fung, get what you its the companies initiative. However, i really wanted to learn the epic system are they offering training programs for individuals who are interested just like six sigma certification is offering? Thank you
Hey Edrian - there unfortunately are no training programs offered publicly. You must work for an employer that has Epic/planning on installing Epic in order to get access to these training programs. Alternatively, you could apply for a job directly with Epic if you aren't able to obtain a job with an institution that has Epic. Hope that helps - the training isn't very easy to access which is why they are so desirable.
Hey Allen! You’ll have to work for an institution that has epic in order to sign up. If you are, you’ll want to talk to your epic team and ask about the policy/procedures in signing up and taking the exams. Hope that helps!
OMG !!! All I can hear is your music I can’t even concentrate on what your saying. So annoying that music I have to listen 5 times to try and understand
Yeah, unfortunately, this was before i realized how distracting it is. I made another video on this where the music is a lot lower. Hopefully that helps!
Judy is no good at taking responsibility. I remember during one of the all-staff meetings, she did an entire presentation to explain why she shouldn't be responsible (that others just say that's what Judy said so that's why employees don't take initiative). In sum, she's full of shit. Her company is no different. Epic culls its employees like cattle on a killing floor and actively engage in labor fraud. While working at Epic, I had a brain injury and shortly afterwards, they fired me for poor performance. All the while, they falsely accused me of insurance fraud. They even got my doctors and coworkers to harass me and force me to quit. But before they fired me, they wanted to use me for some manual labor at UGM before tossing me to the wayside. The following month, I was fired. Not to mention, Epic was also sued and found guilty for its labor practices by the 7th District Court. Wait until the courts find out about their employees' HIPAA violations, and yes, I can name at least one person who violated it. It's been over 5 years since then, I am still unemployed, trudging through debilitating depression, and no hope for the future. They're extremely thin-skinned and expect you to be thick-skinned, as they attack you for defending or speaking out against their harassment, and then continue to ruin your personal life. They attack you, your finances, your family's finances, and they try to make your life as miserable as possible. I would have been far better off had it not been for working at Epic at all. Do not work here - there's a reason why a plethora of people complain about this company's labor practices. Epic is a scam and its employees are treated like shit while Epic plays its childish, passive aggressive mind games *cough, cough*, and they try to insinuate things to explain away their bullshit. It shows a lot of how poor Judy's character is, since she not only knows what goes on, she actively encourages this sort of behavior. Don't trust Judy or Epic to do what's good or right, they don't have your interest in mind. Judy doesn't care about you and her actions show for it - so why would any of you trust her with others' lives?
Please get rid of the music in your future videos. VERY ANNOYING!!!
Thanks for feedback! It definitely is - I actually remade the video because of that. Hope that one is better! Epic Certifications: The Five Basic Questionsth-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
@@briankfung its not the music you just have it too loud a common mistake, but I know you looked for "curious music 1" the music is fine just overpowering your voice.
OMG this music is for Cat babies i cant concentrate. Dont do this again Fung.
I like the music. Keep it
omg this, it's SO distracting! No music-AT ALL for things you must concentrate on! Ugh
If you're going to have music either talk loud enough to be heard over it or don't have music.
thanks for the comment! It definitely is way too loud - I'll make sure to add that in for future videos!
Music drowns everything else out.
Hey Donna! Yes - I completely agree. I actually created a new video because of that. Hope this one is a lot better: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
After a lot of feedback, I've released a revised video on this topic! Hope you all enjoy! th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
I couldn't hear the video or concentrate because of the music....what
Hey Cherry! Thanks for the feedback - definitely noted and I'm hoping to redo the video with better sound in the future!
One minute into the video and I haven't learned a thing.. lol thanks for putting the video out though we appreciate it
Hi Phoebe! Appreciate the feedback! I'm trying to work on articulating my points more clearly and succinctly. With that said, I did remake this video to hopefully capture that: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
Hope that one is better! Thanks for stopping by
@@briankfung 😀
Remove or lower music volume, cant hear you.
thanks for the advice! I'll be sure to take that into account for my future videos!
Youb posted all of your certifications, but not how we can take them.....
As per Epic userWeb docs Epic Proficiency now required to get higher marks than certification. Not sure if it was changed overtime.
That's news to me. Though, did you mean the same marks vs. higher? I wouldn't think you'd be required to get higher for proficiency?
Could of done it without the background music cause it's too loud
thanks for the feedback!
What should I be pursuing at my organization which uses MediTech
Instead of thinking certifications or training, consider your long term goals. What would you like to do in the future? Usually, training and/or certifications that are agnostic to the EHR (e.g. MediTech) are ideal if they align with your long term goals.
Is there anyway a medical student can get to know a get a certification on EPIC?
Certainly can. Not really dependent on your job/title, especially for proficiency, but more so whether you work at an Epic org since that is what allows you to access the training materials.
Where do you go to get Epic Certified?
You have to be sponsored by either an Epic org (ie working for an org that has Epic) or through Epic themselves (work for Epic). You can also go through a consulting company to get certified.
He answered that at 5:58
thanks for adding that!!
Why the background music?
It’s honestly, the worst choice I made for any video 🤣🤣😂
How can I get Reporting Workbench training without going through Epic? Is it possible? I don't need the certification, just the training.
The official answer is that it isn't possible. The unofficial answer is that there are likely unsanctioned trainings out there floating around that people are using to teach this.
Hi I’m interested to register training can you share link
Hi Shravlogz! You can find the link to create an account at: userweb.epic.com/. However, you won't be able to create an account if you don't currently work directly for Epic or an institution that has, or currently converting to, Epic. Hope that helps!
What’s the pay range? I’m a Medical Technologist and I’m wondering if a change will make financial sense.
This is a bit of a difficult question to answer as the pay range is dependent on many different factors (e.g. geographical location, education experience, skillset, etc). Further, there are many types of Epic certifications. An Epic certification in Willow (typically those with pharmacy background) will likely yield a very different pay range than those with Cadence (scheduling). So it'd likely depend on which Epic certification you're aiming for and I'm unsure of which one you'd be most suitable for as a medical technologist.
Hey sir, I just got my epic willow certification and working on inventory and cogito bi developer, I’m also a advanced pharmacy technician. Would you know the salary marketability of all those skills
that's a great question. It really depends and varies depending on geographic location, organization, and your own years of experience. Have you checked out glassdoor or linkedin? I'd suspect the range to be between 70k - 150k.
@@briankfung thank you that helps out a lot with my hunch that both skill with little experience with both would probably be over 100k combined
helpful to hear! Best of luck!
Super informative! Epic certifications are cool! Thanks Brian ✨✨✨
Jordan lol, your comment made my day haha
I'm working in a children hospital and I need to know how to input information in their charts
Hi Teta. Every organization usually has their own institution-specific workflows on how to perform certain functions within Epic (e.g. charting information). If you haven't been provided that information during your onboarding process, I'd suggest submitting a help desk ticket to inquire about Epic EHR training.
I am currently onboarding as a medical scribe at a hospital that uses Epic and in school for my BS in Health Informatics and am wanting to become an epic analyst. I see a lot of people saying to network to get their foot in the door. Do I ask my manager for advice or do I pop into the health IT department at the hospital for help with certification??
As cliche as 'networking' is, it's quite influential in getting to where you may want to be in the future. I think starting with your manager sounds like a good plan. A supportive manager should certainly be willing to support you in your goals - and if that includes epic training - I'd think they'd help create a path with you on how to do so.
Hello Brian, the video was very helpful.
glad you found it helpful Cati!
The background music is too loud compared to your voice
Thanks for the feedback. It definitely is! I remade it into another epic training video to fix it.
Hi Brian, need some best tips for attending Epic HB Resolute Claims Module Certification.
Hello, I am a registered nurse and I am looking to get into casemanagent and the billing side of infusion billing. Being an RN would I need to take all of the prereq? Please let me know. Thank you
Hi Frances. I don't think I full understand your question. Are you referring to pre-reqs for a case management job, degree or certification? Or are you talking about a pre-req for Epic certifications? If the former, I'm not entirely sure. If the latter, there are no pre-reqs.
How to get the EPIC certification for software engineers?
Anyone, regardless of background, can get epic certifications. There are only a few paths: 1) work for epic, 2) work for an org that has epic, 3) work for or start your own epic consulting.
Background Music is too loud to hear you properly... :(
Here’s a newer video: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
Music is terrible and distracting. Why add noise when you are trying to communicate important information?
Hi Kelly! Thanks for the feedback. I created this video very early on and wish I didn't include it! I remade the video later on with lower background music.
the background music is so annoying making me hard to understand what he is talking about , after 2 mins i gave up , i don't understand anything after all
Thanks for the feedback! I made a new video w/ adjusted audio levels here: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
Brian, do you still think EPIC opportunities are dwindling?
Hi Richard, this is a great question. Relatively speaking, especially compared to the opportunities in the last decade, absolute yes. HITECH & Meaningful use really drove the insane demand for EHR implementations and that was the primary pathway in which folks get hired. Most large orgs already have an EHR implemented now so the demand is lower. However, Epic is also expanding international and you can see some of their EHR implementations in Europe, Africa, and Asia. So if you're interested in that, the opportunities are higher.
Somewhat related, but different vendor, is the Cerner opportunities. DoD and VA has the ongoing project with Cerner over the next 10 years or so and the opportunities there will likely be higher than Epic, relatively speaking, as they convert all of their hospitals and clinics over to Cerner.
Brian Fung Brian how to I become an epic certified nurse ? I’m trying to get into clinical informatics . I need guidance to get into epic certification . Thank you
@utopia - that's a hard question to answer without more background details. I'm assuming you're a nurse already looking to get into clinical informatics. If yes, the best guidance I can give about getting an Epic certification is to 1) work for epic, 2) apply to an organization that has Epic, or 3) get a consulting job with agencies that specialize in Epic installs/optimizations.
Brian Fung yes I’m a clinical nurse (RN) with masters in nursing . I tried applying for epic , but they require certification or informatics background. Epic wont certify you until an employer sends for a training :(
@@Utopiavlogs That sounds about right. Most institutions will only hire Epic certified analysts for Epic roles - it's less common (but not impossible) to hire someone without one because there are quite a few individuals with Epic certifications and there are less demand for large-scale Epic implementations back when Meaningful Use was around. As for Epic themselves, they usually hire right out of college from people with all sorts of backgrounds, both technical and nontechnical. If you're currently working for a hospital and they have Epic, the best bet would be to talk with your current institution to do proficiency training (you don't need to go to Epic to get proficiency training). You'll just need to inquire how you can take the test via their proctoring since every institution is different. Hope that helps!
You seem so smart can you tell me where on Epic can I enter Family Physician ( PCP) or patient contacts and does RTE queriesare are used for which courageous? OHIP or all insurance. I am struggling with this new software.
That's a good question, though it's a bit difficult to answer since every Epic installation/implementation is different as each organization configures things slightly differently for their providers. However, in general, many of those fields, including PCP and insurance information is entered during patient intake (e.g. new hospital admit, outpatient visit). They're usually required fields.
@@briankfung it's ok someone helped me with it
Brian, any tips on how to get a job in Epic without having an Epic certification? I am wanting to work in Epic but every time I apply to organizations they always require a certificate. I am wanting to start a new career in the Healthcare field due to my mom passing away from cancer. It is my goal/passion to work in the medical field. I have over 10+ years of IT experience but it has been tough trying to find a role that relates to Epic without a cert. Thank you for your help and advice.
-Andrew
Hey Andrew! I actually made a video response to this question. I hope all is well - th-cam.com/video/DhDAW7hcrOg/w-d-xo.html
Hi,
I applied for Junior System Admin and I've scheduled EPIC SKILL ASSESSMENT exam for next week.
Is there a way I could take a practice exam?
Thanks 😊
Hm, this is a great question, but I'm not sure. I don't think so either..? If it's similar to the sphinx exam, it's usually a test of logic and reasoning since that's how Epic configs usually work. Just be wary of orgs out there that charge lots of money for things like that. There may be some blogs or forums where ppl talk about this. Sorry not more help!
Thanks for the insight, it was very informative however, could you kindly not play or tune down the background instrumentals, it's very distracting,had to listen again and again to get some salient points.
Hey Jake! Thanks for the feedback. I apologize for the horrible audio in this video and completely agree with turning down the background music. I will certainly keep that in mind for my future videos!
Hello, I am a CST certified surgical Technologist. with the shortage of RNs. CSTs would like to go back into charting. CST were allowed to in the 1970s. We are seeing an increase need for all CST to become certified. Could you do some for OR EPIC.
That's an interesting topic to explore. Charting, while likely influenced by society, also appears to be institution specific. I'm not aware of CST's not being able to chart currently, but I wouldn't be surprised either. If that's something you desire, I imagine you'll need to drum up some support for that on a larger level in addition to your local institution. As for OR Epic, what are you interested in specifically? I dabbled a bit in some of the OR certifications, but I'm certainly not an expert in it.
How did you become cst certified
@@omarmellali3575 Nancy probably has better information than me, but the requirements for CST is here: www.nbstsa.org/cst-certification
Hi All , need some inputs here
I am currently in a IT services industry for 2 years and recently got opportunity to take on EPIC certification to provide support for a client , is it worth taking this certification and what are the opportunites that will be available to me if I am experienced in this skill .
Kindly let me know thanks
Definitely worthwhile imo as it’s quite the commodity with recruiters. Opportunities are as epic analysts, which every hospital with epic requires. Epic and cerner are the two dominant EHRs in the country so job opportunities are definitely available. Good luck!
Good vid, but next time lower the music. It got distracting at times and was a little hard to hear. I had to turn on closed captions.
Hey Makai! Certainly appreciate the feedback and I've actually remade the video because of that. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html - hope it helps!
How can you get proficient in EPIC? Can i just take a test without a sponsor?
You'll have to be working for Epic directly or working with an institution that has/plans to convert to Epic. If that's true, you can create a free userweb account and start working on proficiency. However, you'll have to work with your institution to take the exams as it'll be arranged by your institutions proctors and onsite testing locations. Best to begin by asking your local Epic team to find out the process as each institution is different
the background music is too loud and distracting
Thanks for the feedback!
Hi Brian.. hope you are doing well. Well i was looking for the epic certification process and got your vedio on list. I am a avid user of epic and working with US healthcare firm. Could you please help me out with the idea where do I get the epic certification. That would be most kind of you if i get a better platform to get certified in EPIC.
Thanks in advance
Hey Sandeep! The only way you can get certified is if you already work for an organization that has Epic. Once you do, your email will allow you to access the training materials. The two other ways are typically if you work for Epic directly or through an consulting agency that consults for Epic. Hope that helps!
It won’t let me get rid of the pop up that says “Epic Membership.” How do you get rid of it?
hmm, i'm not sure where that popup may be coming from? If it's an ad on the video, you can usually just 'x' out of it. Hope that helps!
Brian Fung ok thank you!
you're more than welcome!
Sir...i whole heartedly agree with the others... I couldn't finish what seemed to be useful. Please CAN the music.
Thanks for the comments! I unfortunately can’t modify the sound in this video, but I did create an entirely new one with updated content. There should be a link from this video to the new video. Let me know if you can’t find it
@@briankfung
Thank you! I will check that one out. I appreciate your reply!
Hope you find the new one better!
Have you herd of CSI Health IT? I have just been hired as a Junior trainer and is this another way to become certified and or proficient in Epic?
Hi Micah! I have not heard of that no. The two primary ways of getting certified or proficient in Epic are the ones I describe in the video. There are some other ways as well, but those usually include some variation of the former, which is by working for private consulting firms for Epic.
Hello Micah, can i have your email please? i want to discuss about CSI Health IT with you please, thank you
Why do you have Music playing in the background ???
Terrible choice - beginner fails. I made a new video where I drastically reduced the music though!
Can you please help me to clear my Epic Cadence certification
read through the materials, take the practice tests, go through all the homework and quizzes, and make sure to read each of the exclamation marks and you'll be good!
big question here: can I pull epic system data for my webapp for free? if so whats the best way? anyone?
Hey liam - I'm not sure if free is possible. However, if you're looking to connect to Epic data, their App Orchard is where you want to start exploring: apporchard.epic.com/
How do you study for the Sphinx exam?
That's a great question, but not one that I have good insight into. My understanding of it is that it tests your logic skills. Thus, I think if you're proficient in working through those types of problem sets, you'll be fine. However, I also know there are other topic areas on the exam that are covered. I've asked Epic about this in the past and they aren't allowed to share. I'd probably suggest talking to others that have taken it - there's lots of forums online that discuss it.
Hello,I currently work for a hospital that uses Epic. If I understand you correctly, I can simply take the proficiency test and materials byself to become epic certified?
Thank you so much for your reply,Crystal
Hey Crystal - that is correct! If your organization already has Epic, you can sign up for a free Epic userweb account. Once you have access, you can jump into their course catalog and browse the various Epic courses you'd like to take! Something to point out, every institution has different policies and procedures in how they administer the proctored examinations - you'll have to ask your Epic analysts/search your intraweb for what that is. Usually it's just a matter of figuring out who can proctor tests at your organization and at what dates. Hope that helps!
Brian Fung- which application would you reccomend to work in a large childrens hospital?
Thanks!
The big ones are inpatient orders, inpatient clinical documentation, and willow inpatient. However, I’d suggest chatting with the current analysts at your org to determine where there’s need and consider those as well! Hope that helps!
Hi, can you talk more about the Infection Control module? I just got hired to join the Epic implementation team at my hospital. Thanks Mariel
Hi Mariel! I sure can! I'll likely do a video on it to explain some more of the infection control module. If I may ask, are you going to be placed in the infection control team or another team as well?
Helpful vid, music is very distracting
thanks for the feedback!
can u tell me how a ZERO PAYMENT would show as POSTED in Epic billing when i did not do it?
Hey Joan - that's a great question, but i'm not entirely sure as each epic implementation may have certain nuances to consider. I'd suggest reaching out to your epic colleagues in revenue cycle to get that answered.
Very informative thank you
thanks for watching - glad it helped!
What is this. I'm looking for how to use EPIC charting system in the hospital, can someone send me the link?!
Hey! just wanting to clarify, are you asking about Epic end-user training for your hospital or are you looking to get Epic certification as an analyst?
bossman upload again please without the damn music in the background
I remade it here: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html hope it helps!
@@briankfung fantastic, appreciate it bro
my workplace is switching to epic, do you think the new SuperUsers trained for this will be "Epic Certified?"
That's a great question and it depends on your organization and how much they want to invest into training. In my experience, super users are not usually "Epic certified". They are usually taught my Principal & Credentialed Trainers who are Epic Certified. Super users are usually individuals who have an interest in being more proficient in Epic to assist their colleagues and usually take an institution-developed course to become "super users".
Important to note, this is just my experience and every institution does this a bit differently.
Jeez! I just watched most of this video before I realized it's not about Epic Games Unreal Engine certification.
LOL - hey, Epic Games it quite dope too. Fort Nite was dope.
The music is very annoying. It's hard to hear.
thanks for the feedback! I actually created a new video about Epic certifications here: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html Hope the revised version is better!
Hi Brian. After you completed the training (on-campus), how long did you wait to take the Epic Certification exam?
Hi Edica - great question. It kind of depended on the certification. Usually I'd take it after I completed the project (highly, highly recommended) and the length of time that took usually depended on which certification it was. For example, the Willow inpatient project took me about 1-2 weeks and the Bugsy infection control one took me about 3 days. I think it's ideal to take it as soon as you can after class, but only after you completed the project as it helps to cement your learning.
Hi,
I wanted to know if there is a practice test for epic bridges before i take the test?
Hi Krutarth! I would think so - usually it’s in the appendix of the training companions. If there isn’t, I’d probably just suggest going through all the stop signs to make sure you understand the content or messaging your trainers to see if they have any practice problem suggestions. Hope that helps!
Results to the assessment exam? I heard there are 2 tiers would you be able to explain?
The only two tiers I’m aware of are certification and proficiency. Certification is usually 85% and proficiency is 75%. There’s another exam called the Sphinx exam, which I’m not familiar with, and I’m not sure how they rate that one
don't stress about the music. i didn't even notice it. those intro sound effects tho...
LOL 😂
I did not mind the music just turn it down a little.
Brain, is it possible to certify on Epic on our own ?
Only if your employer is Epic/transitioning to Epic or you work for Epic directly. If not, you’ll have to obtain a job that is in order to do it on your own. Hope that helps!
Hi.Thanks for video.Please help me to know in India how to get certified .
Hi Sonika - the get certified you have to be an employee of an institution that already has Epic or one that is planning on converting to Epic. If you are, then you can simply create an account on Epic's userweb site with your institutional login to complete proficiency training or talk to your institution about getting sent to Madison for certification training. Hope that helps!
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY VIDEO TRAINING MANUALS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE?
Hi Martrez, it might be difficult to find anything concrete on what the training is like since sharing of Epic materials is prohibited. Additionally, if you want recognition for the training, you actually have to be registered and take exams to get your certificate.
Are there any training vids that you know of specifically for pharmacy? If a person is certified pharmacy technician but is coming back without prior experience, one would need some additional familiarization.
Hey Grant - are you asking about training videos for pharmacy in general - or training videos for pharmacy training within Epic? I'm assuming the latter since your question is within this video. If that's the case, there are no (or at least there shouldn't be) videos related to Epic training because all of that content is proprietary. Epic training materials cannot be shared unless you're currently working at an institution with Epic. Hope that helps!
waaw !
:D
Brian, I work for a company that is in the beginning of EPIC implementation. Since I am not certified, I am having a hard time getting into an analyst role. How/ where do I find the materials to work through becoming proficient? Also can proficiency be completed in 6 months.
bodacious - I've been certified in 2 apps for a couple of years and when we began implementation, the build team was selected internally and our HCS sponsored our build teams to be certified in their apps. Certification can definitely be completed within 6 months. As for materials - Epic is proprietary and they keep things under wraps, but if your HCS has begun the process, you should be able to register for a Userweb account at userweb.epic.com. Good luck!
Kimberly gave a great succinct answer there and basically - if your implementation has already begun, you should already be able to go to the userweb and download training modules that you can complete on your own. Proficiency can certainly be done in 6 months. I did willow inpatient proficiency in 4 weeks, reporting workbench in 2 weeks, infection control in 3 days, clinical decision support 2014 (it's retired now) in 5 days, and willow inpatient graduate in 2 weeks. Willow inpatient i spent 8 hours/day on, the others were between 3-5 hours/day. Hope that helps!
I would like to know more information about this where do i go?
Hi Keyda! What are you specifically learning more about? Most of the information, at least the nitty gritty details, are proprietary so it isn't accessible to the public. However, you should be able to find a decent amount of information via forums and Epic's main website: www.epic.com/
music too loud
Sorry! I wish I would have lowered it in editing. I made a new one here: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
How and where can i get certified? I currently leave in minnesota
The only way is to work for an institution that has Epic or is beginning their Epic implementation. If you do work for an institution that has Epic, you just need to navigate over to the Epic userweb, create a free userweb account, and browse through the certifications they have.
Do you have an email to reach you at?
Hi Anna - I do, however, are you comfortable leaving your question here on TH-cam in case others in the community have the same question?
please ditch the music!
agreed!
I have a lot of experience as a product/project manager in ecommerce. Do you have any idea how I might transition to healthcare and get Epic certified?
Hi M A! PM experience is certainly helpful in the world of EHR implementations as PMs are needed for these large-scale projects. The easiest way would be to search for PM jobs for institutions that are about to implement Epic for the first time or just installing new Epic modules.
Hi Brian - After going through training in madison, wi and i still don't get the certification. How many times can i retake the certification test? Is the certification for one module or all of the modules?
Hi Krutarth - great question! The number of times you can retake a certification test is 3. After 3 failed attempts, you cannot retake it again until you re-attend the entire course. This holds true for proficiency as well as certification. If you fail that test 5 times, every retake after that will require you to retake the entire course prior to an additional retake.
The certification is for the specific module you're taking. A module, like willow inpatient, has 4 parts to it with homework assignments, projects, and 3 exams, but you'll have to complete all of it to get certified in willow inpatient.
What's the pass rate on epic certifications?
really wanted to hear u..music tooloud had to leave
agreed. I'll make sure to keep the background music to a minimum in future
The music please leave out
I need a trainer in Nj
hope you find one!
How do I earn epic credentials? I have applied for several EPIC Credentialed Trainer positions. The reason I’m choosing to get into this field is because currently I’m pursuing a M.Ed in Curriculum and Instruction and I want to learn more about instructional design.
Hi John, it’s truly only through an institution that already has epic. So you’re in the right direction applying for those positions. Once you get hired, you’ll have access to get training to any Epic module you like. Hope that helps!
Brian Fung Thanks I got in contact with one of the directors at the hospital where I work and the she said the same thing that you just said. I will begin getting the training once I’m hired. I also had a question regarding what the avg salary is if you know by any chance.
That's a great question. The ranges I have seen are quite large, between 45k-75k. I hope that helps, I'm assuming factors such as location, experience, and formal didactic training will play a role. I actually don't see too many credentialed trainers with M.Ed, so I think that'll be a great leveraging tool to use in negotiations. Best of luck!!
Brian Fung That’s a not a bad range and if I am to start in he 40k range I have potential to move up as the years go by.
definitely! Make sure to negotiate up though! It's anecdotal, but I definitely don't see someone with your credentials in the CT roles. I think that should at least add another 3-5k to your range! good luck!
I couldn't finish watching the video. The music was a distraction.
Hey Tess! I remade the video here: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html hopefully this is better!
@@briankfung I saw this revised version right after I commented on the original one. Thanks for listening and quickly modifying it. Great Improvement! But do you really need a background sound 🙊😊🤐
I probably don't lol. However, I enjoy it haha. Hope you found it helpful!
Buy or try video editor to remove music
I currently use adobe premiere pro, but appreciate the tip!
The music is so annoying I couldn't finish the video :-/
thanks for the feedback! I'm hoping to remake this video in the future as the audio quality isn't great as you pointed out
It's been 14 months. Doesn't seem like much of a priority despite the feedback. :-(
You’re right, it definitely hasn’t. I’m not sure why either. However, I think I might work on a few epic certification videos this weekend! Thanks for the reminder!
Just released! Hope it helps! th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
Music is annoying. Too loud.
Sorry! I made a new one here: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
Get rid of the music please.
Turn off the stupid music
appreciate the feedback David! I'm actually of thinking of re-doing this video because the audio is horrible
Hi where can i get certification and which courtries accept an epic certification?
Hi Edrian, you can only get certified if you currently work for an institution that already has Epic or is planning on installing Epic. Additionally, it's not really which countries accept Epic certification. Institutions that have Epic will recognize it, otherwise it's not useful to non-Epic institutions.
Brian Fung, get what you its the companies initiative. However, i really wanted to learn the epic system are they offering training programs for individuals who are interested just like six sigma certification is offering? Thank you
Hey Edrian - there unfortunately are no training programs offered publicly. You must work for an employer that has Epic/planning on installing Epic in order to get access to these training programs. Alternatively, you could apply for a job directly with Epic if you aren't able to obtain a job with an institution that has Epic. Hope that helps - the training isn't very easy to access which is why they are so desirable.
Music fucked it up
Thanks for feedback! Definitely could have done a better job for audio quality! Hoping to reshoot this video and future epic videos with better audio!
That music is really annoying man. Thanks for the video though.
thanks for the feedback!
Annoying music and not interested in getting certified
Thanks for the feedback!
Ditch the music.. it's very distracting.
thanks for the feedback Jason! I actually remade the video w/ better audio here: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
Annoying music🙉
thanks for the feedback!
Music is horrible
Sorry!
How can I sing up for the class?
Hey Allen! You’ll have to work for an institution that has epic in order to sign up. If you are, you’ll want to talk to your epic team and ask about the policy/procedures in signing up and taking the exams. Hope that helps!
Hallo
HAI
OMG !!! All I can hear is your music I can’t even concentrate on what your saying. So annoying that music I have to listen 5 times to try and understand
Yeah, unfortunately, this was before i realized how distracting it is. I made another video on this where the music is a lot lower. Hopefully that helps!
Your video is very annoying with the background music and sound effects; it does not give a professional impression.
thanks for the feedback! I actually recreated this one to have better audio here: th-cam.com/video/OJJFf5I1aM0/w-d-xo.html
Judy is no good at taking responsibility. I remember during one of the all-staff meetings, she did an entire presentation to explain why she shouldn't be responsible (that others just say that's what Judy said so that's why employees don't take initiative). In sum, she's full of shit.
Her company is no different. Epic culls its employees like cattle on a killing floor and actively engage in labor fraud. While working at Epic, I had a brain injury and shortly afterwards, they fired me for poor performance. All the while, they falsely accused me of insurance fraud. They even got my doctors and coworkers to harass me and force me to quit. But before they fired me, they wanted to use me for some manual labor at UGM before tossing me to the wayside. The following month, I was fired. Not to mention, Epic was also sued and found guilty for its labor practices by the 7th District Court. Wait until the courts find out about their employees' HIPAA violations, and yes, I can name at least one person who violated it.
It's been over 5 years since then, I am still unemployed, trudging through debilitating depression, and no hope for the future. They're extremely thin-skinned and expect you to be thick-skinned, as they attack you for defending or speaking out against their harassment, and then continue to ruin your personal life. They attack you, your finances, your family's finances, and they try to make your life as miserable as possible. I would have been far better off had it not been for working at Epic at all. Do not work here - there's a reason why a plethora of people complain about this company's labor practices. Epic is a scam and its employees are treated like shit while Epic plays its childish, passive aggressive mind games *cough, cough*, and they try to insinuate things to explain away their bullshit. It shows a lot of how poor Judy's character is, since she not only knows what goes on, she actively encourages this sort of behavior. Don't trust Judy or Epic to do what's good or right, they don't have your interest in mind. Judy doesn't care about you and her actions show for it - so why would any of you trust her with others' lives?
I’m sorry to hear that you’re going through that. That sounds terrible...I hope things move in an upward trend for you