Sorry sir, Ascaso the Baby T plus vs vbm domobar super digital and lelit bianca V3 ,If these machine is using for small cafe around 100-200 cups a day which one you prefer (i love domobar because its can repeat my pressure profiling but i don't know about the consistency) Thanks for the answer
We’re having problem in consistency of the ascaso baby t. It doesnt extract on exact programmed dose. It extracts way more than the target dose. Have you check the consistency of the wate output from the grouphead?
@seiyonblem, let's say you want to extract 40ml. A volumetric based espresso machine will try to give you near 40ml (plus minus 5ml, usually more), but the time of extraction is not fixed. This will depend on whether your grind and tamping are consistent. If you grind coarser, then your extraction time will be shorter. If you grind finer than initial extraction setting, then it will take longer to extract 40ml. The inconsistency in volume extracted also depends on the electronic valve that start and stop the water from flowing. There is nothing wrong with your machine which extract more or less than 40ml as there are just too many factors affecting it. What the machine is trying it's best to do is to give you as close to the volume you set by varying the time.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore we returned our ascaso to the dealer because we are not getting conssitent shots. 18g in 36out in 30seconds. We programmed it and still getting inconsistent shots. Machine automatically stops at 18g 45out 28seconds, 18g in, 40g out in 30seconds. And so on… how to prevent this? Btw dealer said it is NORMAL?
Maybe. But I don't think Sense can do self calibrating and auto purging as well as hot switch to different portafilters (sensitive to the weight of the portafilter) with different weights of ground to be dispense as well as ability to vary the rpm of the motor. It's a totally different level.
I understand that they're different purpose grinders this one is rather for commercial and Fiorenzato for home use, I just commented on the accuracy of the dosing on both of them. I have Sense for couple weeks now, using it with VBM super Electronic and it's pretty accurate usually within 0.1g. It tares the scale once You put the portafilter so You can use different ones without doing any adjustments, it's a great grinder for home use.
It's true. It's good for home use. For the purpose of this video, and purpose of the setup, it will require a fast grinder. Fiorenzato sense is a much slower grinder and it's ideal for home setting. I agree with you.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore when I think about it, after You mentioned the speed of grinding it might just be why it's more accurate because if You grind faster it's way harder to be accurate.
Setup is good, however it better to have machine with direct water connection on 2 coffee groups because this machine isn't so cheap. Many visitors want to drink only 100% arabica and others ask for mix of 50%/50% with robust. So why machine on 2 groups is prefferable and you need to have more space to place 2 grinders. If cafe can operate only with mix 50/50 I will not visit it more
Thanks for the feedback! This is aim at coffee carts and 2 machines or machine with 2 groups is of no issue for us as we eupply both b2b and b2c equipments. The issue with 2 groups machine is the power and mostly will require 3 phase power which isn't ideal for mobile situation. For a 100 cups a day cafe, this setup will probably be just enough.
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Sorry sir, Ascaso the Baby T plus vs vbm domobar super digital and lelit bianca V3 ,If these machine is using for small cafe around 100-200 cups a day which one you prefer (i love domobar because its can repeat my pressure profiling but i don't know about the consistency) Thanks for the answer
Baby T plus is definitely more built towards commercial. Neither VBM super nor the Lelit Bianca (worst among the 3) are built for commercial usage.
Sleek new grinder! Wendougee seems new to the market as I haven't heard of them before. How much is this grinder in SGD?
This grinder is sent to us for testing and have fun with it. I will check with my friend the cost of this grinder.
We’re having problem in consistency of the ascaso baby t. It doesnt extract on exact programmed dose. It extracts way more than the target dose. Have you check the consistency of the wate output from the grouphead?
@seiyonblem, let's say you want to extract 40ml. A volumetric based espresso machine will try to give you near 40ml (plus minus 5ml, usually more), but the time of extraction is not fixed. This will depend on whether your grind and tamping are consistent. If you grind coarser, then your extraction time will be shorter. If you grind finer than initial extraction setting, then it will take longer to extract 40ml. The inconsistency in volume extracted also depends on the electronic valve that start and stop the water from flowing. There is nothing wrong with your machine which extract more or less than 40ml as there are just too many factors affecting it. What the machine is trying it's best to do is to give you as close to the volume you set by varying the time.
You aimed for 40g of coffee but it went to 44g yield instead. Howd you managed to aim for 40? But still got 44?
Well, the time u see the volume and when u actually pressed it, there will be a lag. So to make it at 40ml, you have to stop it, maybe around 36
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore we returned our ascaso to the dealer because we are not getting conssitent shots. 18g in 36out in 30seconds. We programmed it and still getting inconsistent shots. Machine automatically stops at 18g 45out 28seconds, 18g in, 40g out in 30seconds. And so on… how to prevent this?
Btw dealer said it is NORMAL?
@seiyonblem volumetric machine can never produce 40ml if you set it to 40ml. It's is always plus and minus 5 to 10ml.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore meaning… if im going to use programmed shots i wont be able to get consistent shots? Are volumetric machine really like this?
@seiyonblem it is. Considering asking for 40ml and u r getting 44ml is already reasonably good.
I think Fiorenzato Allground Sense has more accurate dosing than this grinder.
Maybe. But I don't think Sense can do self calibrating and auto purging as well as hot switch to different portafilters (sensitive to the weight of the portafilter) with different weights of ground to be dispense as well as ability to vary the rpm of the motor. It's a totally different level.
I understand that they're different purpose grinders this one is rather for commercial and Fiorenzato for home use, I just commented on the accuracy of the dosing on both of them. I have Sense for couple weeks now, using it with VBM super Electronic and it's pretty accurate usually within 0.1g. It tares the scale once You put the portafilter so You can use different ones without doing any adjustments, it's a great grinder for home use.
It's true. It's good for home use. For the purpose of this video, and purpose of the setup, it will require a fast grinder. Fiorenzato sense is a much slower grinder and it's ideal for home setting. I agree with you.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore when I think about it, after You mentioned the speed of grinding it might just be why it's more accurate because if You grind faster it's way harder to be accurate.
@Artur19760512 yeap. I think so, too.
Setup is good, however it better to have machine with direct water connection on 2 coffee groups because this machine isn't so cheap. Many visitors want to drink only 100% arabica and others ask for mix of 50%/50% with robust. So why machine on 2 groups is prefferable and you need to have more space to place 2 grinders. If cafe can operate only with mix 50/50 I will not visit it more
Thanks for the feedback! This is aim at coffee carts and 2 machines or machine with 2 groups is of no issue for us as we eupply both b2b and b2c equipments. The issue with 2 groups machine is the power and mostly will require 3 phase power which isn't ideal for mobile situation. For a 100 cups a day cafe, this setup will probably be just enough.