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- The second generation electrostar is one of my favorite trains. They are pretty fast and work really well. They are much better than the older generation electrostars which were too slow and often smelt of toilets. The second generation Electrostar took the design of the original and improved everything that wasn't right about it and removed all of the defects. It is a well designed train because it is the evolution of a design that has been built for many years. To put it simply, Bombardier perfected the design (which has produced a better train than designing something new). It is much better than the crap trains produced by Stadler, CAF and Siemens, who build complete rubbish that are annoying and slow (although Siemens is good in other countries, they are crap in the UK). The only mainline train in the UK better than the Electrostar 2 is the Hitachi/Javilin series of trains.
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The red interior is actually from Gatwick express!
i remember getting one of these to Paddington from ealing Broadway i was there within a few minutes despite being held up by a red signal near Paddington
I also do like the livery! Everything about this train is so awesome.
I agree.
Great video. ☺
Why do you dislike the stadler trains?
It’s sounds like the train I go on every day the class 377 electrostar
Great sound! So Many nice sounding trains in GB…
Another good thing about the 387 is that it can go up to 110mph.
110mph on the Class 387 is much better than 100mph on other Electrostars.
@@Andrewjg_89 Exactly! Perfect for any medium/long distance, limited stop services the 387 may serve.
@@EssexWolf1993 Maybe Great Northern can have some of the Class 379s to operate from London Kings Cross to Cambridge, Cambridge North and Kings Lynn. And Great Western Railway to inherit some of the Class 379s to operate on the Reading-Newbury shuttle service as Greater Anglia are replacing the Class 379 with the Class 720/5 and Class 720/1 and the Class 387/3 to Heathrow Express as c2c are replacing them with the Class 720/6.
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The class 387's look nice and all but I rode one in 2016 from St Pancras to Luton Airport Parkway and found it to be rather bumpy and the seats on them look like ironing boards.
They now occasionally do London to Cardiff runs
These are my favourite electeostars the livery suits that train
Very nice of the Great Western Railway class 387 does it comes at twtford and Reading or not?
Great Western Railway Class 377
Or Great Western Railway Class 379
Ah the class 387 they are my favourite Electrostar train in the UK but the Class 800/801/802 and 803 Hitachi trains are one of my favourite intercity trains in the UK
Well I Like The Class 800, 175, 375, 377, 465, 466, and Some London underground Trains As well Such As: 1972 Stock (Bakerloo Line) 2009 Stock (Victoria Line) etc.
My favourite Electrostar trains is the c2c Class 357, Southeastern Class 375 and Class 376, Southern Class 377, London Overground Class 378, Greater Anglia Class 379 and GWR & Great Northern Class 387. And the Gautrain Electrostar.
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@@Andrewjg_89 Exactly. He just does this copy and paste crap.
@@TEBEnthusiast Yep
Personally as a local to GWRs Class 387s, they are nice trains to me! The seats aren’t too bad for me. They look stunning in the inside and outside. Also 387/2s are gonna go back to GX since they are loaned.
What do you think about the Stadler 777’s?
They are actually very nice trains. Since GWR have ordered 45 Class 387/1s with 12 of them modified for Heathrow Express that replaced the Class 332 and renumbered as Class 387/1a. And they also are hiring the Gatwick Express Class 387/2 and c2c Class 387/3. As Great Northern are hiring few Class 387/2 for a short while.
The 387s are too heavy to produce good acceleration on third rail , the 377/6s outperform them usually
True. And the Class 377/7.
True it feels like they struggle to get up to power quickly enough
@@court692able yeah exactly, the 160 ton range seems a bit of the higher end of a 4 car train before acceleration begins to falter (on Third rail at least)
The 377/6s Naturally should have more power to cope for the 5th car.
Apparently 3rd rail EMUs use around 1200kw for a 4 car unit. Or some use over that for a short portion before going down again.
@@Andrewjg_89 maybe, that's if the pantograph coaches don't weigh it down. For example I think some dual voltage units can be around 5 to 8 extra tons.
377/4 = (DC only) 160 tons
377/2 (dual voltage) = 168 tons
377/1= (DC only) 163 tons
377/5 = (dual voltage) around 170 tons
375/6 = (dual voltage) is around 170 tons also
375/7= 164 tons (DC only)
Bruv 387s are 174 tons (for why loool)
377/6 = around 204 tons (DC only, 5 cars)
377/7 = around 212 tons i think (dual voltage)
(These are sourced from my own experience looking at unit data on the trains themselves, so don't take it all as solid fact )
I think it would have been a better idea to sort of imitate the aventra and desiro style and use the same design as the electrostars but just reduce the weight of the bogies and body shells by a Ton or two.
For example , even reducing the carriages by one ton each
Means that 4 carriages means = 4 tons reduced.
And reducing the bogies by 2 tons each would mean 16 tons as there are 2 bogies per carriage.
All in all 20 tons reduces. This sort of thing was done by Siemens when making desiro cities
I.e class 450s = around 170 tons with only third rail equipment
When compared to class 700s or a class 707 a 4 car 707 would be in theory around 131 to 135 tons (since 700s are heavier due to being dual voltage) The difference is astounding isn't it? So doing this to the newer electrostars would have been alot of help I think.
379s accurate faster but then again..they weigh around ten tons lighter
Totally agree and I wish that Bombardier and Greater Anglia could of ordered more Class 379s so it can be used on other services including London Liverpool Street to Braintree, Southend Victoria, Southminster, Ipswich, Colchester, Colchester Town, Walton-on-the-Naze, Clacton-on-Sea and Harwich Town.
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Yeah i agree with you, the 387s are really nice trains as well as the other electrostars. However, i don't at all like the aventras which bombardier produced after the electrostars yet they were manufactured by the same company.
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The Class 387s Aren't That Great The Class 165s and 166s Are Better
Shitty ironing boards
They sound alright too. Not as good as the 465, though.
Which 465s do you prefer? Alstom or Hitachi/Brush
@@thefatcontroller4094 Alston. Without a shadow of a doubt. The hitachi ones sound boring in comparison.
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This Sound like London Underground Victoria line
the red interior looks like gatwick express
That's because it is ex Gatwick Express!
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Sounds like an Azuma
Sounds like a Hitachi VF drive
Technically it’s not because the traction motors on the Class 387 has Bombardier MITRAC DR1000 IGBT-VVVF with a power output of 1.68 MW (2,250 hp). When operating on AC 25kv OHL or DC 750v 3rd Rail. As they are dual voltage.
@@benolifts you don't like alstom train?
@@giuprota2002 The only Alstom trains I like is the Class 390 Pendolinos used on Avanti West Coast.
IMHO the 387 is the only good British mainline train Bombardier made.
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Red seats and blue handles? Obviously the interior design was done by somebody with ADHD. Is there a grown up interior at all?
Those units are the Gatwick Express units currently on Short Term Hire with GWR, they return to GTR Next Month
They are loaned. They are on GWR for now for extra capacity(I think).
@@TEBEnthusiast they are there to help with the withdrawal of IETs in May, they go next month
@@Jackmc2007 Yh.
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@@jakewynn They do. First great western is the operator of great western railway. And for more proof GWR is in the First Group
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that's a nice train