Hamas is a horrible terrorist organisation but Israel is not? In what way is Israel different? The mindless slaughter of Palestinians in prison and in Gaza by the IDF does not count as terrorism?
Why does the word "hostages" only apply to the Israelis and not the 1000s of Palestinians illegally detained who are underage and kept in prison without due cause??
It's the hypocrisy of the Western world. Are all Palestinians not hostages? How are Palestinians not hostages if Israel completely controls their lives?
My question is why are these 6 deaths condemned by foreign politicians but don't condemn the deaths of innocent people and babies killed by IDF everyday.
I cant listen to this anymore.. Does a Palestinian life worth less than Israeli? We are hearing all type of condemnation of what happened to the 6 Israeli.. while on the same day, Mohammed Al Swafri, Ali Ismali, Ahmad Ahmad, Mohamed Islamil , Hamdi Majed, Anwar Abu Irmanah, Ibrahim Slama were killed in cold blood (to name a few). Have we heard any of their names on the news? or any condemnation what so ever?
@@FTT206 what is your life worth? Think really hard. Your Israeli government practices hannibal directive. So your life is worth nothing if you are hold as a hostage.. think hard about this.. this your own government value your life as just mere inconvenience.
The west meaning my country class them palestine as prisoners when we all know isreal have thousands of hostages in prisons how can another country arrest a other country's citizens crazy
@@Canvashed What like the bastion of truth that is the Israeli government that have been caught lying on multiple occasions? Multiple organisations have estimated higher than the 40000 not just Hamas.
Last minute of a little girl surrounded by dead bodies and asking for anybody to come and get her...yes I do remember this little girl voice and I cried...
@aishaarshadalam3412 That's my definition of a traumatising situation a child facing death alone, not understanding WHY and begging for someone to save her.
Who is to say that the six captives were in fact killed by Hamas. Were there IDF soldiers in the tunnel or wherever they were being held at the time. We should perhaps take time to contemplate the treatment of the thousands of Palestinian hostages held by Israel and the number of their deaths in captivity.
Killing or killed?! Not understanding your point? Maybe English isn't your first language but your statement implies innocent people are murdering people every day in Gaza - which make little sense.
Freudian slip there perhaps. The lady who was killed in her apartment with her newborns last month had collated and posted evidence of the Palestinian children being targeted in the same way. I'm sure it's just a coincidence though.
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She was probably there and witnessed it first hand !!
Just a few weeks ago a lady was 'rescued' by the IDF. She had injuries, and the IDF reported that she had been tortured and her head had been shaved by Hamas. A week or so later the lady corrected that claim and stated that she, and two other hostages had been trapped as a wall fell down on them during one of IDFs' rescues. This, she states is where she had suffered her injuries. One hostage died under the debris and she and the other survivor had been rescued by their Palestinian captures. On route to another location, the other male hostage had been killed on transit by the IDF. She was rescued from this other location by IDF shortly after. The Lady was angry that Israeli media had spread the false narrative that had been put out by the IDF. Consequently, I do not believe these six were killed by Hamas. The hostage families had independently been going through alternate channels to secure the release of hostages; I believe that this included at least one of the six who were killed. I believe they were killed to hide details of this alternate channel and would not want their 'first hand' account get in the way of the culling. Of course, I do not know this as a 'fact'; but look at the catalogue of 'stories' that already been de-bunked, from the 40 decapitated babies, babies on washing lines and the denials of IDF atrocities; from the food aid massacre, chasing and bombing of clearly marked aid trucks, the little girl waiting to be rescued. killing not only her family but the rescue workers, then finally the child herself. And of course, the Lady recently rescued who concluded that she had experienced several miracles, Survived Oct 7, her time in captivity, and as she stressed, survived my RESCUE.
Just a thought. Were these poor hostages (my thoughts and prayers to the families) executed BEFORE being bombed by air strike or were they found killed by air strike and then shot in the head? Do we therefore assume it was Hamas that shot them in the head? You can see why finding dead hostages simply by air strike would look very bad on the IDF. Also, consider character reference, the IDF have previously shot Israeli hostages. Hamas have not.
If we have learned anything from this conflict, is that Israel lies... About everything... All the time... Taking them at their word about anything is idiotic... Which is not to say that Hamas are honest or trustworthy.... But I think the chances of them admitting if they killed the hostages are higher than if Israel did it.
Indeed. Not beyond Hamas to shoot hostages they thought the Israelis were closing in, also not at all beyond plausible that they died in airstrikes. You certainly couldn't take Israels word for anything.
@blondpanda6211 Don't joke. I was reading the Telegraph comment section, so many commenting that they think it's wrong and she's innocent! 😒 The same people that support Netanyahu, and there are many, many people like that.
Be suspicious of the autopsy but not of any figure that comes from the so-called "Hamas Ministry of Health'? This is closing your eyes to reality. Violence and innocent civilians died on both sides. Whatever your view (obviously different from mine), innocent civilians being killed is bad. However many they are.
@@silvanostagni true, I agree with you. I also understand the skepticism of the original post. The Israeli government has lied a lot and a lot of those lies have been exposed
@@doggieclaude then UN also stated that the number of Palestinian deaths was overestimated. Propaganda rules on both sides but look at the reaction in Israel to the news that the hostages were shot in the head. That does not sound like propaganda to me (I support Israel, not the current Israeli government). Those hostages were taken from a music festival. People (not just Hamas militants) arrived from unoccupied Gaza. Resistance is not attacking people at a music festival or in their homes.
This is why people have been protesting every week. People like Braverman called them 'hate marches' but the vast majority of the people marching wanted a ceasefire to get the safe release of hostages as well as the safety to those within Gaza and surrounding areas. Who thinks any other approach would be less riskier to the hostages safety? Why don't the Israeli and international governments see this? I feel sorry for every single innocent person killed or affected by all these governments and people in charge.
To tell the truth, in London, there was no mention of releasing hostages. Ceasefire now and 'from the river to the sea...' did not mention the hostages at all.
Will any Israeli ever answer for the illegal occupation? Will they ever except that Palestinians have a right to armed resistance? How come westerners are so aghast at the actions of Hamas and others, don’t they see as we all can, what Israel and western support, does to these poor blighted people? Have you all lost the plot
All of Israel is on land they took from the Palestinians through Jen O'Side, and they justify it though lies, myths and extreme racism. The moment they accept that Palestinians have a right to Gaza and The West Bank, the next conclusion is that they have a right to all Palestine. They can't accept that truth so they just tell more lies.
Minutes silence for the 6 😮, which is absolutely heartbreaking. Meanwhile the Hippocratic MSM and that sick derived old man in the White House and everyone that could and hasn’t tried to make change wouldn’t dare mourn for 40000+ innocent people! 11 months in , 75 years + and inhumanity is still at the heart forefront!!😢
It's beyond heartbreaking ehsts going on in Gaza But that's not down to President Biden He is actually working hard to find a solution to end all of this senseless death This is on Hamas + Netanyahu along with those who continue to support both
You think the so called 40,000 are innocent you need to educate yourself it was Hamas who killed these 6 innocent people it’s also not the fault of Bibi but Hamas who are the Palestinians and the left do t get realistic about this
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy" Haaretz, October 2023 Avner Cohen, a former Israeli Religious Official, who Worked in Gaza for Over two Decades, Said. "Hamas to my great regret, is Israel's Creation "
If those people were executed in the way she described my first question is why are independent investigators and media still excluded from the situation?
Do we know how they were killed? Hamas or israeli air strikes? Because the last hostage who was released said her injuries were down to israeli airstrikes not hamas.
@@Samg2618 they didn't admit it, they actually claimed the opposite. Whoever did it though, IDF or Hamas, should be condemned. Would you condemn IDF if they did it?
@@timvella1817hostages not prisoners. Those held on administrative dention are held without charges or trial date. Just taken. Even 85 year old grand mother. If the person they want isnt at home, they just take anyone else they want.
Netanyahu was given the opportunity to have all hostages returned safely directly following 7th Oct. He refused the offer. This from Israel’s Chief Negotiator at the time.
It's clear why. As long as the 'war' continues, he can't be impeached or forced to stand down as PM. He knows the Gaza conflict will only last so long, so he's trying to create a wider regional conflict to prolong the war & bring the US & Iran into the fray.
@@JohnCox-ut3cv Its clear why. Prolonging the 'war' ensures he can't be impeached or made to stand down as PM. He also realises that the Gaza conflict will only last so long, so now he's attempting to widen the conflict into a regional war by bringing in the US and Iran into the fray.
This monster doesn't want the hostages back if he makes a deal then he will be finished so he kills the hostages as he did before even when they had white flag in their hand.
I'm pretty sure netahanyu wasn't actually there firing bullets or whatever , you might want to check your source of info. I'm not sure why you are claiming that he was there and did.
There's a story that goes like this... The Camel was out in the cold so it poked it's head into the tent. The owner felt sorry and allowed it. By morning the Camel was inside the tent and the owner sleeping outside !
At 2:50, she says that the "results are extremely clear." I'm calling BS! It is not extremely clear if you can't tell if the hostages were killed minutes or days or weeks before they were killed. That is not extremely clear, that is called BS!
@@Mark-jr6ld , by who? Was it an outside independent or was it by the IDF? And again, it is not "extremely clear" if they can't tell if the hostages were killed minutes, days, or weeks, because if it was extremely clear, they would be able to determine how long they were dead.
@@2906justblaze I'm sorry I have no clue about any of these details. I assume their execution narrative is false but I don't really know why it matters to people who already reject IDF propaganda.
@Mark-jr6ld , the IDF/Israel propaganda is strong in media and in American politics and around the world. This has been going on for decades. So I don't blame regular people for not knowing, but I certainly do blame so-called news organizations and governments for feeding this pipeline of pro IDF/Israel narratives. They try to silence anyone who uses critical thinking skills in their criticisms of Israel by instantly calling them "antisemitic." Israel not only makes the world unsafe for Jews, but also everyone in general.
Obviously the 'minutes' or 'days' narrative is not forensic results. Forensic results can narrow it down to hours. So that range is just made up gibberish that is supposed to be overlooked. James didn't push back on any of the assumptions without evidence that she pushed.
She almost cried for this 6 people. What did she do for the 40,000 including kids and women? She lives in her little bubble of the victim fighting the evil people that want to harm her for no reason at all ...
i find it difficult to believe that hamas took out those hostages as they represent their only bargening card to exchange them for palestinian hostages.
It’s sad that those Israeli hostages are dead. I also find it rather suspicious that for some reason after holding these hostages for almost a year Hamas just decided to execute them and leave them in a tunnel? Have you seen how relatively healthy the Israeli hostages that have been released look even though Gazans are starving? Contrast that with the way Palestinians released from Israeli prisons look…I will never forget the man with his, big as saucers, and how he looked like someone who has spent time in an insane asylum and was experimented on with numerous “treatments”. The young Israeli hostage who was recently released and contradicted the Israeli gov’t narrative that she was injured by Hamas. She said was wounded by the IDF including when the building she was being held in collapsed on her. The outpouring of grief over these six Israelis killed versus over 100,000 Palestinians dead and their homes and civilian infrastructure destroyed is just grotesquely bizarre.
Q - WHY assume HAMAS murdered the hostages? HOW would it benefit them? They were kept SAFE for nearly a YEAR. Have you NOT web-searched the HANNIBAL DIRECTIVE (Protocols)? Time to give Benjamin (INSIDE JOB) Netanyahu's October 7th (SURPRISE?) a MAJOR rethink, mateys. Captain "Long John" Sinclair.
@@adilabbas8628 his position has definitely become clearer (some might say changed) as public opinion has for sure, go back 7 or 8 years. Whether that's because he's better informed or chasing an audience is probably the pertinent question
@@adilabbas8628 Incorrect. At the get go. JOB said Israel had the right to defend itself (legally WRONG) AND he defended and supported Starmer when he said Israel had the right to cut off water etc. So he was backing Israel from the start
I am neither Jewish nor Israeli, and even I know Netanyahu was elected to do just what he is doing if Hamas gave him an excuse. Is it blind loyalty to Netanyahu or blind obsession with eliminating the Palestinian population from Gaza?
Exactly this. ISR people want to collectively punish Gazans for a 2006 election they were too young to vote in or not even born yet. But when it's about Bibi he is all doing it on his own ... Which one is it?
Absolute nonsense. They kept them captive for this long only to end their life like this... utter garbage! Every other prisoner released has categorically said they were treated well and it was the army who was indiscriminately firing at them.
They are working on some bs to spew out to the worlds media to justify the terrorism they are creating there. Give them some time please as making up bs on this scale isnt easy.
And what was the source of this information which suggests that these individuals were shot multiple times in the head, in the tunnels, at point blank range? Has this source of information provided "details" of events that were later found not to be true? Could we perhaps ask hostages who were rescued their version of events? Why were these 6 people "tortured for months" when NONE of the hostages who were exchanged in a deal or rescued mention any mistreatment?
Anyone who is silent, let alone those who are cheerleading the gen oh side, must be shamed for the rest of his or her life. Never tolerate criminal minds, never.
"The forensic evidence" OK... so we've been lied to about every other aspect of this war by Israel, but we need to now rely on their forensic evidence.
Sad/sorry to hear of any needless lives lost. But the IDF have done 100000 worst and evil. Evil is evil who ever commits it and Izraael is pure evil. I'm surprised the hostages survived for so long. Izraael has been a murderous terrorist state since its creation and terrorism committed by its founders pre its creation at the expense of the poor Palestinians
I feel very sad for the 6 hostages killed but I feel absolutely heartbroken for the thousands killed in the name of "self defence". This was all Netanyahu - his wanting to hold on to power and appease his terrorist, right wing government. They have always wanted, since 1948, to cleanse Palestine. The UK, USA, Germany and other western governments are all complicit.
Astonishes me how they can still expect their hostages back at all after what they’ve done to Gaza and West Bank since oct7th, the exceptionalism and outright audacity to be complaining after their genocidal campaign shows how out of touch an average Israeli citizen is
Israelis in general don’t care about what is their government is doing to Palestinians . This is all about their hostages, they never question what is happening to Palestinian hostages being tortured and rapid !
She really said, 'it could end very badly for everyone' as if more than 50000 slaughtered is an afterthought. Make no mistake here, the protests in Israel are not anti-war protests.
Anybody who takes Israel's account at face value is a fool of the highest caliber. I'm not saying that Hamas didn't execute the hostages, but I AM saying that there's quite a lot of precedent for Israel to lie about the hostages to cover up their own complete disregard for any lives, even Israeli. The greatest number of hostages returned alive were during the brief ceasefire, and that is what Hamas has been saying from the beginning that they want, and that is what Netanyahu has been dead set against from the beginning. The obstacle to peace is the Israeli state in general, and Netanyahu in specific, and anybody who still doesn't understand that is not worth listening to.
Hamas knew what would follow when they took the hostages. Netanyahu knew what would follow when he took such broad military action. I feel for both the Israeli and the Palestinian people who are just fodder to both of these evil forces.
Ridiculous statement in its implicit equivalence of both sides. Remember the majority of Israelis have never protested against the gen0cidal barb@rity of their government. They agree with everything they have done in Gaza.
MOSSAD and IDF have the best information/communication networks in the World. Yet they didn't know what Hamas had planned? Female IDF border watchers were removed days before - after reporting movement.
@@ibexdnb2879 Except when you look at the Israeli publics view of Palestinians before Oct 7th. There is no equivalence between Israelis and Palestinians because one set of civilians just want to live by the ‘67 borders and the majority, 75+% depending on the poll, of Israeli civilians want to take the land the other group is living on. Not to mention that even if Netanyahu was ousted his party would still win a majority if a new election was held today. Israeli attitudes are firmly in line with Netanyahu, they just don’t like that 1.) He’s not doing anything to return the hostages and 2.) His actions have been a PR nightmare for Israel and could threaten their ability to take the West Bank and Gaza in the future.
Thousands of Palestinians murdered, thousands kidnapped, tortured, hundreds of them executed in captivity including doctors, and Journalist emotions get stirred up because the resistance treated them equally…we are not sure though that they were executed, but even if they were , and in no way I say that is OK, but in case, then one may understand that they started to treat the Israelis the way they treat them, keeping in mind the huge difference in the levels of brutality and savagery….
Its already there Sarah Wilkinson a pro Palestine journalist (for years) has just been put under house arrest for journalistic terrorism.....I watched her full interview....horrific Last week Richard Medhurst arrsted at a UK Airport. Who's next?
Not to diminish the deaths of the 6 people, however if we are talking about the “Terror” or the “Manner” of their deaths, why don’t we talk about the victims of the terroristic bombings in Gaza, leaving people trapped beneath the rubble of their former homes, left to suffocate and die from their injuries because the people who would rescue them are also being bombed by the Israeli’s? The systematic use of violence used by a group as a means of coercing others into granting their demands. That’s terrorism by the very definition.
has james not seen the poll numbers for the israelli populations viewpoint on gaza . over 65% of them think the idf isn't extreme enough in it's actions in gaza they want more violence over a population that they view as less than human . people should actually seek out israelli media coverage and see for themselfs what israellis both see and at least in part believe.over the last decade the israelli population has moved massively to the right politically, it's in the way they vote and the other organisations they support.
It amazes me still that people still take the IOF at their word!! No questions asked.. no independent inquiry into the 6 deaths.. baffles me really!!!!
@@Uncanny_Mountain No excuse for attacking people at a rock concert whatever the provocation. Not to excuse the behavior the Israelis but Hamas are pretty far gone morally.
People get confused as there so many Islamic terror groups with different names 47,000 plus terror attacks since 9/11 make people a bit "edgy" to be fair.
Oh the irony from the woman from Jerusalem, so sad the hostages were executed, but 1000's of young Palestinian doctors have been executed ,also innocent young men woman also
Hamas is a horrible terrorist organisation but Israel is not? In what way is Israel different? The mindless slaughter of Palestinians in prison and in Gaza by the IDF does not count as terrorism?
Israel is not because our politicians and newspaper say they are the most valuable ally of the west, as they enrichen us by buying and selling weapons
*-israHELL-** is criminal.*
Israelis invented Hamas with billions in funding ,
Just like isis .
Why does the word "hostages" only apply to the Israelis and not the 1000s of Palestinians illegally detained who are underage and kept in prison without due cause??
It's the hypocrisy of the Western world. Are all Palestinians not hostages? How are Palestinians not hostages if Israel completely controls their lives?
Are not the people in prison because they have committed a crime?
Yep, hamas true colours.
@@akikofujita4058nope, you really don’t know ?
@@akikofujita4058 Not all
My question is why are these 6 deaths condemned by foreign politicians but don't condemn the deaths of innocent people and babies killed by IDF everyday.
Western governments, the global majority is clear...
The answer is too obvious.
Has been for the last 11 months.
You mean what hamas call a necessary sacrifice? Maybe they don't want to offend hamas?
British goverment are cowards
@@facehugger3 Hannibal doctrine?
I cant listen to this anymore.. Does a Palestinian life worth less than Israeli? We are hearing all type of condemnation of what happened to the 6 Israeli.. while on the same day, Mohammed Al Swafri, Ali Ismali, Ahmad Ahmad, Mohamed Islamil , Hamdi Majed, Anwar Abu Irmanah, Ibrahim Slama were killed in cold blood (to name a few). Have we heard any of their names on the news? or any condemnation what so ever?
Does a Palestinian life worth less than Israeli?
According to Israel, the US, the UK, Germany, yes. Clearly and obviously yes
Shame
Market price for human life in Gaza is less than a price of chicken.
In the US, the color of your skin does determine the value of your life.
@@FTT206 what is your life worth? Think really hard.
Your Israeli government practices hannibal directive. So your life is worth nothing if you are hold as a hostage.. think hard about this.. this your own government value your life as just mere inconvenience.
Why are we supposed to care about 6 people when thousands of children died
Thank you .
Because we’re goyim and must stay in our place
Because they are human beings? How inhumane.
@@Plato86 so the other children weren’t human? Listen to yourself
How about we care about them all? Who said you had to pick one or the other?
Never forget the Israeli public were carrying on happily next to the worlds largest outdoor prison before oct 7th.
We only get mad at what we are told to via the programme of the media.
Israel has never been a democracy.
Not every Israeli wants Palestinians eliminated
And the March of Great Return
It only became a problem when the natives escaped their reservation
How many Palestinian hostages have been killed in administrative detention?
Thousands
I'd be surprised if the answer is zero - If the Israeli govt doesn't care for its own hostages, do you think it will care for the Palestinians.
The west meaning my country class them palestine as prisoners when we all know isreal have thousands of hostages in prisons how can another country arrest a other country's citizens crazy
None.
@@blackwatchfireandsecurity2106Source?
6 people dying worst news ever. When 30000+ died in Gaza its war meh
Hamas were told 1x 1000
Actually is closer to 50 000 Palestinians have been murdered.
@@bryancoulter5998 that bastion of truth which is the Hamas health authority.
@@MohammadQasim why do you care about Palestinians?
@@Canvashed What like the bastion of truth that is the Israeli government that have been caught lying on multiple occasions? Multiple organisations have estimated higher than the 40000 not just Hamas.
"The Occupier does not have the right to defend themselves"
- UN
Only Countries with a history of ILLEGAL occupation are arming and defending Israel
Occupation of what? 😂😂😂
@@zippymufo9765 OF PALESTINE
It was the Russian Ambassador who said that to the UN, not the UN.
@@waldemarsikorski4759 Thank you for that clarification!
Last minute of a little girl surrounded by dead bodies and asking for anybody to come and get her...yes I do remember this little girl voice and I cried...
Little Hind - we can never Forget!
Hind Rajab. I will remember her name til the day I die.
@aishaarshadalam3412 That's my definition of a traumatising situation a child facing death alone, not understanding WHY and begging for someone to save her.
Who is to say that the six captives were in fact killed by Hamas. Were there IDF soldiers in the tunnel or wherever they were being held at the time.
We should perhaps take time to contemplate the treatment of the thousands of Palestinian hostages held by Israel and the number of their deaths in captivity.
You really don't know what you are talking about
@@otteottema6839 If he distrusts the IDF then he automatically knows more than you.
@@otteottema6839it's actually more likely that they were killed by iof carpet bombing
@@PristianoPenaldoSUIIIILEFT IS BEST! ❤❤ your pfp
Yeah I don’t put it past them AT ALL
Innocent people r killing every day in GAZA no one talk like this . double standard always
Absolutely, hypocrisy at it’s highest level
Killing or killed?! Not understanding your point? Maybe English isn't your first language but your statement implies innocent people are murdering people every day in Gaza - which make little sense.
Eh? People are talking about nothing else. Do you live under a rock?
Who believes a word they say..
Gaza voted in Hamas.
Questions ?
How could she confirm the way the hostages were executed? I guess it's the usual blame "Khamas."
Exactly!! Pushing propaganda again
Freudian slip there perhaps. The lady who was killed in her apartment with her newborns last month had collated and posted evidence of the Palestinian children being targeted in the same way. I'm sure it's just a coincidence though.
She was probably there and witnessed it first hand !!
Just a few weeks ago a lady was 'rescued' by the IDF. She had injuries, and the IDF reported that she had been tortured and her head had been shaved by Hamas.
A week or so later the lady corrected that claim and stated that she, and two other hostages had been trapped as a wall fell down on them during one of IDFs' rescues. This, she states is where she had suffered her injuries. One hostage died under the debris and she and the other survivor had been rescued by their Palestinian captures. On route to another location, the other male hostage had been killed on transit by the IDF.
She was rescued from this other location by IDF shortly after. The Lady was angry that Israeli media had spread the false narrative that had been put out by the IDF.
Consequently, I do not believe these six were killed by Hamas. The hostage families had independently been going through alternate channels to secure the release of hostages; I believe that this included at least one of the six who were killed. I believe they were killed to hide details of this alternate channel and would not want their 'first hand' account get in the way of the culling.
Of course, I do not know this as a 'fact'; but look at the catalogue of 'stories' that already been de-bunked, from the 40 decapitated babies, babies on washing lines and the denials of IDF atrocities; from the food aid massacre, chasing and bombing of clearly marked aid trucks, the little girl waiting to be rescued. killing not only her family but the rescue workers, then finally the child herself. And of course, the Lady recently rescued who concluded that she had experienced several miracles, Survived Oct 7, her time in captivity, and as she stressed, survived my RESCUE.
Israelite bombs = Khamas
ask her who did the autopsy. the idf
My thoughts exactly.
Well it wouldn't be hamas.
It should be independently done. If there is such a thing as "independent"@@anthonyholdford4041
Exactly
I don't trust it either.
Just a thought. Were these poor hostages (my thoughts and prayers to the families) executed BEFORE being bombed by air strike or were they found killed by air strike and then shot in the head? Do we therefore assume it was Hamas that shot them in the head? You can see why finding dead hostages simply by air strike would look very bad on the IDF. Also, consider character reference, the IDF have previously shot Israeli hostages. Hamas have not.
If we have learned anything from this conflict, is that Israel lies... About everything... All the time... Taking them at their word about anything is idiotic...
Which is not to say that Hamas are honest or trustworthy.... But I think the chances of them admitting if they killed the hostages are higher than if Israel did it.
Indeed. Not beyond Hamas to shoot hostages they thought the Israelis were closing in, also not at all beyond plausible that they died in airstrikes. You certainly couldn't take Israels word for anything.
Agreed. We know who the liars are
Who carried out the autopsy? Is it the Israeli authorities? If it is so , that says a lot.
"Israel health authority" 😂
😂
@blondpanda6211 Don't joke. I was reading the Telegraph comment section, so many commenting that they think it's wrong and she's innocent! 😒
The same people that support Netanyahu, and there are many, many people like that.
@blondpanda6211 Even then, you'd get a David Davis type blithering on...
The IOF
Who conducted the autopsy? Always be suspicious.
Casual alt-right moment
Be suspicious of the autopsy but not of any figure that comes from the so-called "Hamas Ministry of Health'? This is closing your eyes to reality. Violence and innocent civilians died on both sides. Whatever your view (obviously different from mine), innocent civilians being killed is bad. However many they are.
@@silvanostagni true, I agree with you. I also understand the skepticism of the original post. The Israeli government has lied a lot and a lot of those lies have been exposed
@@doggieclaude then UN also stated that the number of Palestinian deaths was overestimated. Propaganda rules on both sides but look at the reaction in Israel to the news that the hostages were shot in the head. That does not sound like propaganda to me (I support Israel, not the current Israeli government). Those hostages were taken from a music festival. People (not just Hamas militants) arrived from unoccupied Gaza. Resistance is not attacking people at a music festival or in their homes.
The calendar man
Hope she will explain why Israel is holding Palestine hostage before Oct 7
Gaza is plagued by poverty, but Hamas has no shortage of cash. Where does it come from?
They are not!
@@MegaRzen yes. also no shortage of rockets
@@MegaRzen evidence? no of course you have none..israel are the ones doing this
Egypt is also holding them hostage
This is why people have been protesting every week. People like Braverman called them 'hate marches' but the vast majority of the people marching wanted a ceasefire to get the safe release of hostages as well as the safety to those within Gaza and surrounding areas. Who thinks any other approach would be less riskier to the hostages safety? Why don't the Israeli and international governments see this? I feel sorry for every single innocent person killed or affected by all these governments and people in charge.
Let them protest in Gaza FFS...
@@joescott54luckily you won't be around much longer looking at yr profile pic 😂🎉❤😂🎉😂
@@joescott54 always casting aspersions then crying victim
At some point you're going to get what you're asking for
And then you cry Hsoah
So well said.
To tell the truth, in London, there was no mention of releasing hostages. Ceasefire now and 'from the river to the sea...' did not mention the hostages at all.
Remember Rachel Corrie and Tom Hurndall 🙏
Yes - Tom Hurndall was 21 years ago, and things haven't improved.
Did this channel cover the sadistic crimes against humanity happening to male Palestinian health care workers in Isreali concentration camps?
world leaders are blinded by this dunia.
This channel does talk about it
Will any Israeli ever answer for the illegal occupation? Will they ever except that Palestinians have a right to armed resistance? How come westerners are so aghast at the actions of Hamas and others, don’t they see as we all can, what Israel and western support, does to these poor blighted people?
Have you all lost the plot
All of Israel is on land they took from the Palestinians through Jen O'Side, and they justify it though lies, myths and extreme racism. The moment they accept that Palestinians have a right to Gaza and The West Bank, the next conclusion is that they have a right to all Palestine. They can't accept that truth so they just tell more lies.
When the Ethnostate falls the Western economic system will follow shortly after
Then the fun really begins
@@gb8628 when was southern Ireland occupied exactly?
What Hamas did was terrible and what Israel has done to Palestine is the same, times a hundred.
@wiggy5728
It’s not an occupation
Minutes silence for the 6 😮, which is absolutely heartbreaking.
Meanwhile the Hippocratic MSM and that sick derived old man in the White House and everyone that could and hasn’t tried to make change wouldn’t dare mourn for 40000+ innocent people!
11 months in , 75 years + and inhumanity is still at the heart forefront!!😢
It's beyond heartbreaking ehsts going on in Gaza
But that's not down to President Biden
He is actually working hard to find a solution to end all of this senseless death
This is on Hamas + Netanyahu along with those who continue to support both
'the Hippocratic MSM'... are they all doctors?
You think the so called 40,000 are innocent you need to educate yourself it was Hamas who killed these 6 innocent people it’s also not the fault of Bibi but Hamas who are the Palestinians and the left do t get realistic about this
@@robbie4084 no, it’s on Biden.
@@robbie4084Biden is supplying the weapons. If the US stopped supplying these weapons the bombing and senseless killings would stop immediately
"Hamas were created and funded by Israel"
- Israeli Brig General Yitzhak Segev
Created to counter Arafat and PLO
@@tonybrett5209to create division and avoid a united Palestinian front.
So they can isolate pockets of territory and take them
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy" Haaretz, October 2023
Avner Cohen, a former Israeli Religious Official, who Worked in Gaza for Over two Decades, Said. "Hamas to my great regret, is Israel's Creation "
Yeah back when the organisation was a literal soup kitchen
When they radicalised all support was dropped
And Isis is a Mossad creation
If those people were executed in the way she described my first question is why are independent investigators and media still excluded from the situation?
Common sense says the IDF killed them. The IDF is constantly bombing and destroying.
Why don't you blindly trust the IDF? Every single thing they said since Oct has been confirmed to be true ... some .. mhmm few ... maybe one.
Do we know how they were killed? Hamas or israeli air strikes? Because the last hostage who was released said her injuries were down to israeli airstrikes not hamas.
Exactly !
Ye they know that the hostages were executed by Hamas, it’s not speculation
@@Samg2618 according to the IDF? Ah right, the famously trustworthy org we all learnt to trust since Oct? Where do I start?
@@nic_cage Hamas admitted it surprisingly
@@Samg2618 they didn't admit it, they actually claimed the opposite. Whoever did it though, IDF or Hamas, should be condemned. Would you condemn IDF if they did it?
Israel should never expect peace after occupying Palestinian land.what about 9000 Palestinian hostages,the double standards should stop
Palestinians keep on living a life of misery and crying about it
You mean prisoner's.
Look what happens in the USA 🇺🇸 when they took all the land form American Indians 😢😢😢😢😢
Israel did not occupy any land
@@timvella1817hostages not prisoners. Those held on administrative dention are held without charges or trial date. Just taken. Even 85 year old grand mother. If the person they want isnt at home, they just take anyone else they want.
Netanyahu was given the opportunity to have all hostages returned safely directly following 7th Oct. He refused the offer. This from Israel’s Chief Negotiator at the time.
This should be spoken about more
Additionally, Netanyahu had the chief Hamas negotiator assassinated.
It's clear why. As long as the 'war' continues, he can't be impeached or forced to stand down as PM. He knows the Gaza conflict will only last so long, so he's trying to create a wider regional conflict to prolong the war & bring the US & Iran into the fray.
Nonsense
@@JohnCox-ut3cv Its clear why. Prolonging the 'war' ensures he can't be impeached or made to stand down as PM. He also realises that the Gaza conflict will only last so long, so now he's attempting to widen the conflict into a regional war by bringing in the US and Iran into the fray.
This monster doesn't want the hostages back if he makes a deal then he will be finished so he kills the hostages as he did before even when they had white flag in their hand.
I'm pretty sure netahanyu wasn't actually there firing bullets or whatever , you might want to check your source of info. I'm not sure why you are claiming that he was there and did.
There's a story that goes like this... The Camel was out in the cold so it poked it's head into the tent. The owner felt sorry and allowed it. By morning the Camel was inside the tent and the owner sleeping outside !
At 2:50, she says that the "results are extremely clear." I'm calling BS! It is not extremely clear if you can't tell if the hostages were killed minutes or days or weeks before they were killed. That is not extremely clear, that is called BS!
Forensic results
@@Mark-jr6ld , by who? Was it an outside independent or was it by the IDF? And again, it is not "extremely clear" if they can't tell if the hostages were killed minutes, days, or weeks, because if it was extremely clear, they would be able to determine how long they were dead.
@@2906justblaze I'm sorry I have no clue about any of these details. I assume their execution narrative is false but I don't really know why it matters to people who already reject IDF propaganda.
@Mark-jr6ld , the IDF/Israel propaganda is strong in media and in American politics and around the world. This has been going on for decades. So I don't blame regular people for not knowing, but I certainly do blame so-called news organizations and governments for feeding this pipeline of pro IDF/Israel narratives. They try to silence anyone who uses critical thinking skills in their criticisms of Israel by instantly calling them "antisemitic." Israel not only makes the world unsafe for Jews, but also everyone in general.
Obviously the 'minutes' or 'days' narrative is not forensic results.
Forensic results can narrow it down to hours. So that range is just made up gibberish that is supposed to be overlooked.
James didn't push back on any of the assumptions without evidence that she pushed.
James, did you raise your voice when LBC axed Sangita Myska from the show at the behest of Israel. Hindsight is 20/20 they say eh?
She doesn't know there are 40,000 palestinians dead
She almost cried for this 6 people. What did she do for the 40,000 including kids and women? She lives in her little bubble of the victim fighting the evil people that want to harm her for no reason at all ...
James, are you now willing to condemn the Israeli government, IDF, along with the settler terrorists?
Depends on what his advertisers say.
I thought he has condemned them?
He'll have to ask permission of his beloved Sir Kid Starver before he could do that
'Cos we all believe Israeli reports on every single thing they choose...
Not me.
@@dianacasey6002 Nor me!
I don't believe anything the israeli government says
No we don’t
Proven liars time after time.
i find it difficult to believe that hamas took out those hostages as they represent their only bargening card to exchange them for palestinian hostages.
Shhhhh!! you might be called anti-Semitic for that truthful comment
Gonna guess those 6 people got murdered by occupation forces.
We should all blindly trust the IDF ... they have been very trustworthy on anything they said ....
It’s sad that those Israeli hostages are dead. I also find it rather suspicious that for some reason after holding these hostages for almost a year Hamas just decided to execute them and leave them in a tunnel? Have you seen how relatively healthy the Israeli hostages that have been released look even though Gazans are starving? Contrast that with the way Palestinians released from Israeli prisons look…I will never forget the man with his, big as saucers, and how he looked like someone who has spent time in an insane asylum and was experimented on with numerous “treatments”. The young Israeli hostage who was recently released and contradicted the Israeli gov’t narrative that she was injured by Hamas. She said was wounded by the IDF including when the building she was being held in collapsed on her.
The outpouring of grief over these six Israelis killed versus over 100,000 Palestinians dead and their homes and civilian infrastructure destroyed is just grotesquely bizarre.
what do you expect from the west, They have double standards.
Q - WHY assume HAMAS murdered the hostages? HOW would it benefit them? They were kept SAFE for nearly a YEAR. Have you NOT web-searched the HANNIBAL DIRECTIVE (Protocols)? Time to give Benjamin (INSIDE JOB) Netanyahu's October 7th (SURPRISE?) a MAJOR rethink, mateys.
Captain "Long John" Sinclair.
I hadn't read up on the hannibal directive. Now I have, thanks stranger.
But, James. You’ve been giving blind support to Israel for years!
Yes. My thoughts exactly..
Incorrect. James has not. Please dont distort the truth. James is probably one of the only journalists to call them out
He was on the fence initially this time round. But for months he has spoken out against a lot of atrocities committed by Israel..
@@adilabbas8628 his position has definitely become clearer (some might say changed) as public opinion has for sure, go back 7 or 8 years. Whether that's because he's better informed or chasing an audience is probably the pertinent question
@@adilabbas8628
Incorrect. At the get go. JOB said Israel had the right to defend itself (legally WRONG) AND he defended and supported Starmer when he said Israel had the right to cut off water etc.
So he was backing Israel from the start
We are waiting to hear Swala Bravman calling out these hate matches taking place in Tel Aviv
Remember the world central kitchen incident.
Any claims by the IDF should be scrutinized and verified by independent journalists.
Any claims by the IDF....should be ignored
I'm not buying it, they have already killed their own and lied for Casus belli, what makes you think they will change.
I am neither Jewish nor Israeli, and even I know Netanyahu was elected to do just what he is doing if Hamas gave him an excuse. Is it blind loyalty to Netanyahu or blind obsession with eliminating the Palestinian population from Gaza?
Exactly this. ISR people want to collectively punish Gazans for a 2006 election they were too young to vote in or not even born yet. But when it's about Bibi he is all doing it on his own ... Which one is it?
Absolute nonsense. They kept them captive for this long only to end their life like this... utter garbage! Every other prisoner released has categorically said they were treated well and it was the army who was indiscriminately firing at them.
Exactly
This!
100%
It is so strange that they could not find the hostages but lo and behold they miraculously find them shot. Who shot them? IDF or Hamas?
WEST BANK ANYONE????
They are working on some bs to spew out to the worlds media to justify the terrorism they are creating there.
Give them some time please as making up bs on this scale isnt easy.
...and our government is complicit in this too.
No, your government is the reason for this since they gave the land that they do not own.
And what was the source of this information which suggests that these individuals were shot multiple times in the head, in the tunnels, at point blank range? Has this source of information provided "details" of events that were later found not to be true? Could we perhaps ask hostages who were rescued their version of events? Why were these 6 people "tortured for months" when NONE of the hostages who were exchanged in a deal or rescued mention any mistreatment?
Never forget how James lined up guest after guest on to throw Jeremy Corbyn under the bus for pointing this out years ago.
Those innocent deaths could have been avoided as well as the thousands of innocent palestinian civilians. 😢
The Hannibal Directive says differently.
Innocent Nazis?
Imagine if you made the same argument in Occupied France in WW2
Even in opposition you enable the evil with the benefit of the doubt
There are no innocent Palestinian civilians
50,000 hostages murdered in Gaza and 700 in West bank in less than a year
Blame it to the radical Islamic.
@@josefabacolot7197 I blame on evil British colonisation regime..
@@mj-ek6mtPlus Those "Israeli Settlers" With American Accents!
Anyone who is silent, let alone those who are cheerleading the gen oh side, must be shamed for the rest of his or her life. Never tolerate criminal minds, never.
"The forensic evidence" OK... so we've been lied to about every other aspect of this war by Israel, but we need to now rely on their forensic evidence.
And the autopsy concluded that the bullets that ended those hostages were palestinian?
The quickest autopsy ever, were told didn’t have. They have lied before I would no doubt they would lie again.
Yeah sure it was a very honest assessment 😂
Sad/sorry to hear of any needless lives lost. But the IDF have done 100000 worst and evil. Evil is evil who ever commits it and Izraael is pure evil. I'm surprised the hostages survived for so long. Izraael has been a murderous terrorist state since its creation and terrorism committed by its founders pre its creation at the expense of the poor Palestinians
Can someone prove to me they were being tortured for 11 months? Any source?
Source: believe me bro, we are God's chosen people.
Hollywood again, what about recent West Bank?
It ends when the United States pulls the plug.
It Ends When The Pro Israel Jewish Lobby STOPS Controlling The American Government!
The West Bank is in horrific trouble now. And Hamas is not even there. It’s obscene. 😢
What about beheaded palestinian children?
Whataboutary. All civilian lives matter and I am pro Palestinian btw
Hmmmm I feel sorry for the Palestinian children, men and women who are innocent!!!
Hannibal Directive
I feel very sad for the 6 hostages killed but I feel absolutely heartbroken for the thousands killed in the name of "self defence". This was all Netanyahu - his wanting to hold on to power and appease his terrorist, right wing government. They have always wanted, since 1948, to cleanse Palestine. The UK, USA, Germany and other western governments are all complicit.
They were killed by IDF, not Hamas.
The last hostages they released didn't exactly play along with the propaganda. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't want to risk it this time.
Astonishes me how they can still expect their hostages back at all after what they’ve done to Gaza and West Bank since oct7th, the exceptionalism and outright audacity to be complaining after their genocidal campaign shows how out of touch an average Israeli citizen is
What happens when one considers themselves god's chosen and that it was supernaturally given to them hahaha!
It is astonishing how anyone can talk such utter nonsense. Frightening!
The autopsy report should be made public for us to believe the IDF
What makes you think that the report is truthful?
They say Hamas did it, I'd bet on the IDF being responsible.
according to Senior Hamas official Izzat al-Risheq yes, it was Israeli air strikes
Sorry I can’t cry for 6 when many more have been killled and are still being killed .This woman is vile .
Israelis in general don’t care about what is their government is doing to Palestinians . This is all about their hostages, they never question what is happening to Palestinian hostages being tortured and rapid !
And who cares?
@@waltermesser9737 we do!
Meanwhile the West Bank continues to be targeted and Lebanon is also being drawn in. No one seems able to stop Netanyahu and his right wing allies.
She really said, 'it could end very badly for everyone' as if more than 50000 slaughtered is an afterthought. Make no mistake here, the protests in Israel are not anti-war protests.
So sick of Israel button--->
They all talk about Israel hostages, but never talk about Palestinian hostages.
Palestine will be free. Truth always prevail.
It will be another corrupt Arab country
Palestinians are not in captive by Israelis but by Hamas and their evil religious beliefs.
Of course 😅
No it won't
@@ceesjanmolsooner or later it will
Anybody who takes Israel's account at face value is a fool of the highest caliber. I'm not saying that Hamas didn't execute the hostages, but I AM saying that there's quite a lot of precedent for Israel to lie about the hostages to cover up their own complete disregard for any lives, even Israeli. The greatest number of hostages returned alive were during the brief ceasefire, and that is what Hamas has been saying from the beginning that they want, and that is what Netanyahu has been dead set against from the beginning. The obstacle to peace is the Israeli state in general, and Netanyahu in specific, and anybody who still doesn't understand that is not worth listening to.
Hamas knew what would follow when they took the hostages. Netanyahu knew what would follow when he took such broad military action. I feel for both the Israeli and the Palestinian people who are just fodder to both of these evil forces.
Ridiculous statement in its implicit equivalence of both sides. Remember the majority of Israelis have never protested against the gen0cidal barb@rity of their government. They agree with everything they have done in Gaza.
A voice of reason.
MOSSAD and IDF have the best information/communication networks in the World.
Yet they didn't know what Hamas had planned?
Female IDF border watchers were removed days before - after reporting movement.
@@ibexdnb2879 Except when you look at the Israeli publics view of Palestinians before Oct 7th. There is no equivalence between Israelis and Palestinians because one set of civilians just want to live by the ‘67 borders and the majority, 75+% depending on the poll, of Israeli civilians want to take the land the other group is living on. Not to mention that even if Netanyahu was ousted his party would still win a majority if a new election was held today. Israeli attitudes are firmly in line with Netanyahu, they just don’t like that 1.) He’s not doing anything to return the hostages and 2.) His actions have been a PR nightmare for Israel and could threaten their ability to take the West Bank and Gaza in the future.
Why feel sorry for the Israelis? They are the occupiers not the occupied. There is no moral equivalence.
Thousands of Palestinians murdered, thousands kidnapped, tortured, hundreds of them executed in captivity including doctors, and Journalist emotions get stirred up because the resistance treated them equally…we are not sure though that they were executed, but even if they were , and in no way I say that is OK, but in case, then one may understand that they started to treat the Israelis the way they treat them, keeping in mind the huge difference in the levels of brutality and savagery….
600 in the West Bank slaughtered since October 7 - where there's no Hamas.
Untrue
@@PompeyBoy66 That's a UN estimate.
Natanyahu will keep the War going
to Keep himself Out of Jail for all
his Corruption, just like Trump runs
for Office to Stay Out of Jail. 🤣🤣
Excuse me what hostage who has been released by Hamas has said that they were tortured?
LEADING BRITAIN TO FASCISM
Its already there Sarah Wilkinson a pro Palestine journalist (for years) has just been put under house arrest for journalistic terrorism.....I watched her full interview....horrific
Last week Richard Medhurst arrsted at a UK Airport. Who's next?
War is what Nethanyahu wants to escape accountability for his own crimes !
PLEASE JAMES, get some respected Palestinian voices onto your programme!!
We do not hear them!
Glad to see everyone's eyes are finally open.
Those people would have been alive, and living with their loving families if a peace agreement had already been reached.
Not to diminish the deaths of the 6 people, however if we are talking about the “Terror” or the “Manner” of their deaths, why don’t we talk about the victims of the terroristic bombings in Gaza, leaving people trapped beneath the rubble of their former homes, left to suffocate and die from their injuries because the people who would rescue them are also being bombed by the Israeli’s?
The systematic use of violence used by a group as a means of coercing others into granting their demands.
That’s terrorism by the very definition.
The main Western problem is our double standard.
GREAT PRESENTER
They’re ALWAYS the victims
has james not seen the poll numbers for the israelli populations viewpoint on gaza . over 65% of them think the idf isn't extreme enough in it's actions in gaza they want more violence over a population that they view as less than human . people should actually seek out israelli media coverage and see for themselfs what israellis both see and at least in part believe.over the last decade the israelli population has moved massively to the right politically, it's in the way they vote and the other organisations they support.
It amazes me still that people still take the IOF at their word!! No questions asked.. no independent inquiry into the 6 deaths.. baffles me really!!!!
This lady is ignoring over 40.000 innocent Gazans slaughtered and she is talking abt 6 Israeli hostages killed by who knows who. SMH
The myth is that Hamas is like ISIS or Al-queda, but the reality is that it is like Likud or Yesh Atid.
More like the Vietcongs and the Taliban, the ones you mentioned are CIA plants
The fact is if you were in their position you'd do worse
You already have
@@Uncanny_Mountain No excuse for attacking people at a rock concert whatever the provocation. Not to excuse the behavior the Israelis but Hamas are pretty far gone morally.
People get confused as there so many Islamic terror groups with different names 47,000 plus terror attacks since 9/11 make people a bit "edgy" to be fair.
@@archvaldorno more than murdering Palestinians in concentration camps for decades
Oh the irony from the woman from Jerusalem, so sad the hostages were executed, but 1000's of young Palestinian doctors have been executed ,also innocent young men woman also
No reporting on the West Bank?
There is absolutely NO evidence of hamas torturing the hostages there is however evidence of torture conducted by the idf on palestinians
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Really well informed and objective journalism by this caller.
Hannibal Directive!