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Reverse engineering and rebuilding SYBT5 APC Symmetra LX Battery module. SLA Battery replacement.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2024
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Rinoa has multiple channels too. :)
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I was watching them since it was called Rinoa Super Genius :D
I asked Rinoa how one could go about getting a copy, should they want to take the risk. I just wanted to share what a kind person Rinoa is. We need more people like this in the world!
If you really really want the software, and are willing yo accept any security risk, send me an email and I can see about mailing you a cd with it. If not you can wait until we make our own software later in the year.
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OMG I love your way of trolling trolls. "you hated on windows 7 so here is XP" please never change!
Basement working.... 4x3 video.... eprom dump... cool character... hurray it's a new saison of "The IT crownd" !
Joking aside, thank you for all this very informative information!
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Thank you very much!
I enjoyed this video. Very cool seeing this project continue.
you have change everything that you have done is great job and keep it coming computers are get better and better -DLH
Having worked on many server room APC units over the years, be very aware of the amount of energy stored in those battery packs ( do the math ), there is a reason they are made out of steel.
I’m coming to this from working on electric car batteries so for me this is an easier job than a 300v pack
It's ok she knows what she is doing.
It looks like you are making good progress on the unit and certainly learning a lot along the way.
This one is working great and I hope we can keep these in use in the future
I recently bought myself a new tester for lead-acid batteries. The feature that sold me was an option to test based on amp-hour rating in addition to the more common settings like CCA. It recently helped in troubleshooting a misbehaving scissor lift, which we eventually found to have one of the emergency descent valves open. My boss was ready to replace all four batteries!
Being able to test the function of each component saves a lot of dosh.
fascinating, though I dont ever expect to need to know how to do this, it was still fascinating watching the process.
Hey Rinoa! I've been watching your vids for the last couple of months now (started with the IBM ThinkPad battery restoration, since I'm preparing to attempt a rebuild for my Latitude CPi/Inspiron 8100 so I just looked for "old laptop battery recell" and you popped up) and I always feel so comfy watching them. You two seem like really nice people, please keep up with all the great stuff you do!!
BTW, that's one *great* touchscreen! I do quite like Windows 7, but for me personally, Win2K and XP are really the last truly great Microsoft OS-es. I diasgree about the general consensus that using an unsupported operating system online poses a real secutity risk, since the router's firewall will most likely be enough to protect you from "random" attacks. Still, Linux or the BSDs are never a bad choice IMO, only problem is on old machines Windows tends to be better supported funnily enough.
thank you for such a lovely comment. Windows 2000 is my personal favorite
Hi there. I spent many years out in the field working on these. Your video is interesting and cool. One thing. Never mix different brands of batteries, also never mix different ages of even the same type. The reason is the same. Different brands and different ages offer different resistances. Good old Ohm's law will tell you that different resistances will cause them to charge/discharge at different rates. This will lower battery run time, as well as battery life.
Yeah we never would mix different batteries in the same pack. Cant be helped with mixing different packs though since the system would have to handle that
I have some of those powersonic 18AH batteries in a APC1500 and they seem to still be doing well after 1.5 years.. We also had a batch of about 70 Mighty Max batteries and they didn't last more than about 1.5 to 2 years.. In the search for better batteries, we're also trying out some Bright way batteries. I got a little automotive tester to measure resistance and log them down along with voltages and whatnot..
Highly informative, great video, be careful lowering/lifting batteries as I can say from experience they're back breakers.
Sadly for me my knees are whats bad not my back. So for me its lift with my back not my knees
It's not fun watching society mess with peoples backs and knees when a couple painful months of squats/cardio can deaden knees, take care of yourself as your videos are interesting.
i support the pull it and test.. i usually only pull mine for about an hour.
I always liked windows xp :D
Great video
Ah, XP. It was the last Windows system I used everyday, before switching to Linux in 2012. I sometimes used Win10 for gaming and for work (when working as an EE for a company that used Altium Designer) but generally I'm a Debian gal. XP was a good system killed off after over ten years; if not for stopping support, we'd see it in mainstream use to this day and that's not what Microsoft would like.
there are available a cells balance circuits at Ali and it would greatly improve the longevity of the cells!
Is the Russian software written in .NET (C#, VB, etc.)? If it is, it's fairly trivial to decompile with ILSpy, etc.
Honestly I already understand what has to be done so much that there isnt a whole lot I really need to pry from it that I can get from simple trial and error
@@RinoaL fair 'nuff, I was thinking more of your distrust of it.
I wouldnt be smart enough to tell for sure but it seems safe enough to at least toy with
I wonder if perhaps that eeprom was actually erased by the microcontroller on the bettery itself. Ie it went to program something. Went through it's erase phase and then the voltage of the pack dropped low enough to not be able to program them.
I actually forgot to say in the video but the control board erased it again and I had to replace the whole thing
Hi.how can i turning on the unit stand alone?
I am trying to do the programming for Liebert Nfinity UPS batteries but it is giving error
email me and I can maybe help if you explain the issue
I've been looking through your channels, how did you learn to do all this stuff? You're amazing!
By never quiting learning, and by being bored with life
If it (software) absolutely positively has to work, XP. Kind of a joke, but there seams to be, some merit to that.
I'm impressed with your depth of self taught knowledge, and your style of presentation, effectively looking over your shoulder.
I agree about the serial E²PROM being blank. Static should have made the chip, unusable, not blank the data. Strange!
I've not seen a sealed Lead Acid battery fail like the exploded units, you showed. Perhaps a production fault? It may be a good idea, to open that battery pack, and check for corrosion of the case. Some of the acid could have damaged the rust prevention coating of the metal case, and the inevitable will occur (rust). I've found, cheap (clear) nail-polish from a discount store, can be an effective anti corrosion coating (and also a mild 'Locktite' function).
Regarding that EEPROM, I forgot to mention in the video that I later had an issue with that board and had to swap it out, so that board may have been erasing the EEPROM in it
@@RinoaL
That is interesting! Perhaps that faulty board, could be a 'tear-down' episode. May, or may not discover the cause. though analysing the board, could revel something useful.
I doubt it'd be useful knowledge for me tbh, I don't have a ton of these to take care of.
@@RinoaL
Yes, maybe that will be the only APC Symmetra LX SYBT 5 you will service. But, that's an impressive skill to put on any job application. Perhaps a cottage industry, rebuilding battery modules for other clients.
I've been able to get several UPSs, simply because the batteries failed (age related), and unskilled users (bean counters) see that a new unit is cheaper than having it repaired/serviced. There could be something in it, for you (you said there had been several blackouts, earlier. If that's a common occurrence, UPS's will be in demand, IMO).
Yes I do work in datacentres but sadly most companies have moved on from these older batteries, so I don't have very many to do since they are going on 20 years old. I'd be best spending time researching the newer ones, however again I already know everything I need to know about this battery module so I don't feel like going further tbh.
Will that programmer handle a 12c16W-P. Seems the w suffix is a deal breaker for the one I have,
Apparently the revelprog guys are really helpful on their forums so maybe go ask
I had that same HP tablet PC. Served me well for years but unfortunately doesn't boot anymore. I've no doubt you'd easily be able to fix it, but board repair is beyond me 😂
My older beige UPS from APC has a habit of eating batteries but I think it's more of a batteries fault than that UPS at this point
How does that russian program work? Does it just spit out a premade dump file that you can write to the eeprom, or does it interface with the revelprog or do some other voodoo?
You save the EEPROM dump as a .bin file and load it into that program, and it just updates the .bin file. Fairly simple tbh
I wonder if you could hack a BMS system to monitor all the cells in realtime.
Those look heavy! Remember to bend at your knees
Not for me, my knees are bad so back it is
Rebuilding battery packs by the seat of your pants, literally!
god they didnt have to do it to em with the xp but they did i laffed
Sorry about the bad spelling of your name on other posts. I'm slightly dyslexic. 🙂
no worries
what's next? Hannah Montanna Linux?
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I really miss Windows 7.
Just about to send a complete (earlier version of this unit) w/ extended run cabinet straight to hell. It’s approx. 25 years old and the plastic battery boxes are starting to disintegrate from age, two out of the five power modules are toast and the unit nearly caught fire once…
If you want to send me any circuit boards from it I’ll find a good home for them so they dont become ewaste in the dump
@@RinoaL anything you’re looking for?
Hrmm, could you give me the model number of the unit so I can look it up? Also are you on the east coast? I don't have anybody yet with an older APC system but I'm starting to get known for this. I feel like maybe any intelligence modules or maybe any circuit boards from the battery packs themselves would be great.
@@RinoaL i’m in southern NH.
@@RinoaL I’ll have to get back to you on the specifics - I can’t even find a picture of this thing online!
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"I kind of don't trust that saaaftware".
Yeah my brain stepped down to a much lower clock speed several times in that clip
if you dont trust it then decompile it and see what its doing.
Im not a software person that much and I would rather just get along with making a better version
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Lol... Windows trolling. By the way windows 7 is a great operating system.
Getcho self a stylus, please!
I have it but it takes AAAA batteries
@@RinoaLfree AAAA batteries in some 9V batteries. :)
Ive torn apart three 9v batteries looking for them so far, I gave up. Dont feel like killing more 9vs