The Future of the Docklands | London Docklands | 1970s London | Today | 1976
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- THE DOCKLANDS PLAN. IS IT POSSIBLE TO REFURBISH ONE OF THE WORST DEVELOPED AREAS IN LONDON?
Interviewer: Bill Grundy
First shown: 09/04/1976
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Back from the days when THAMES made good, serious and meaty programmes.
Not like the shyte that emanated from Carlton.
To be fair, this was also from way back in the days when tv watchers still had an attention span.
No one can predict the future not even planners, developers or politicians. What will Canary Wharf look like in 50 years time?
Born and raised in the East End, my family have been living there since 1956 and still all there. It has changed for the better although it has not really benefited the locals, mostly rich people moving in nowadays
Fascinating in the light of all that has happened since!
Brilliant to watch, in retrospect; considering how beautifully it all came together. Love the transformation of the old docks. A great place to stroll in, by the Thames with the boats, eateries and wonderful architecture; keeping alive the feel of bygone days, when it was heaving with merchants and ships; arriving from all over the world.🌟
Bill Grundy, a man whose career dissolved after inviting the Sex Pistols onto his show and saying "here is a band as drunk as I am"
Yes very true
I think how downfall was drink rather than the Sex Pistols. Shame as he was a good broadcaster.
Wot a Rotter😂
3:08 totally different now. Big, expensive boats outside there now. Its MUCH better now than it was back then. If only you could see the feature, could of bought a property there and it would now be worth millions. Tower Walk is the nicest building there. Would love to own one of those apartments.
A very boring story. Living in London, we eventually visited St Katherine's Docks once as the bar in the hotel you're allowed to use even if not staying at the hotel. Was really nice so we'd go back to visit now and then. Walked past one of the apartments in Tower Walk and a guy was sat in his chair watching Frasier (I love that show). We went back a year later and walked past the same window with the same guy still watching Frasier :) (pretty sure he wasn't dead).
The hotel is the building in the background 2:36
Worked very close to there until last year. All very familiar.
They all had their Dirty Fingers in the pie 🥧 💰
a carbuncle of project Too many people had too many different ideas. Too many two-legged walk rats
The question that should have been aimed at Peter Drew was "how did you escape a charge of arson after burning down the Georgian warehouses in St Katherine Docks?"
This could almost be a modern day satirical sketch of 70's London. It feels like one!!
Go on chief. You have another 5 seconds . Say something outrageous.
Oh the birth of Docklands corruption. Most of the developers have massive amounts of money now. I wonder how many of them have had Karma bite them in the arse! 9:30 How about that! Wow! Wrong again!🤣 10:59 uuuuur wrong again nibbled at the edges! Where are the vast green spaces!🤣🤣 14:15 bought he own development company. Not stupid is he!
Nowadays the area is well served by docklands light railway
It's a shame Newham have never had the expertise seen in Tower Hamlets and Southwark, the Newham section of Docklands is nowhere near as developed even now. We still see the same mistakes being made, the gigantic dual carriageways north of the docks should not have been built, the bridges to the east of the docks should have been wider to accommodate pedestrians and cycles more comfortably, the Elisabeth line should have been put in a cut-and-cover through E16 to remove the barrier between the riverside and Becton, Those boroughs were right to go it alone. Newham never shows leadership and instead relies on developers to plan their future, badly.
"Oh alright, Siegfried"
Well done Heseltine for cutting through all this crap.
2000 million pounds, i.e. 2 billion pounds but I guess the word billion didn't exist in the 70s
Oh yeah
very quaint, isn't it, to hear talk of way 1.2 million pounds? Today we have to swallow trillions like it's no big deal!
a thousand million et al was the common vernacular pre 1980s in the UK, 'billion' (as meaning 1000 million) is an American term which was adopted by the Treasury in the late 1970s. British 'billion' (a million-million) was an archaic term that fell out of use couple of centuries ago.
Reporters and newsreaders back then were so much less emotional than they are in these days. So much more focused on facts and not trying to trick the viewer into thinking how they want them to think.
I see news companies as a bunch of tricksters nowadays.
The Canadian developers now must be laughing at how london developers of this time were so skeptical.
The reichmann family of Toronto who own canada square / canary wharf took the chance of a lifetime
3 points:-
1) Nigel Beard was spot on.
2) Peter Drew was completely and utterly wrong.
3) Paul Beasley got the bargain of the century!
£3000 an acre???!! .. Even if he sat on that and did nothing with it, he could have sold his land for around £700m just 15 years later!
My dad worked in west ferry road….used to work there during school holidays….in 1970…😮
There was a missile heading towards Bill Grundy that was going to destroy his broadcasting career. It struck in December of that year, 1976, and it was called The Sex Pistols.
Essentially Tory Party donor developers wanted more profit, little financial risk and even less accountability.
What a gloomy lot,had no confidence in it happening at all lol
A fantastic success, creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs making the London leading the financial centre on the planet. If you cling to the past you will destroy your future
amazing to see the amount of nay-saying back in those days.
@@jokingpants those on left wanted projects like this to fail. They hoped for a UK that was largely nationalised run by a Labour government and the trade unions. One Labour MP said capitalism was dead. Of course the reality is socialism always fails, only the free market can deliver wealth and job creation.
@@michaelsalt4565 I totally agree. It worries me that over forty years later there are so many who believe that capitalism is a great cause of inequality and suffering, and that Corbyn would have been a great leader!
@@michaelsalt4565Supporters of Socialism complain about Capitalism without realising it's what pays for it.
@@michaelsalt4565
There is no such thing as free market capitalism. Capitalism without state sponsorship would last about five minutes.
No basshead
Grundy was always nasty, diabolical and obnoxious ,he should have married Sue Lawley .They would have both deserved each other.
He would ave been better suited marrying Tony Blackburn !
docklands is fantastic now. so funny that it used to be a sh1thole
Did it ever work??
Since the 50s and 60s things have only become worse. Back then you could get a mortgage and a fairly decent 2 bedrooms for less than 4 times average wages. Try that now! The time has come to sweep away for good all the self interested council planning departments. Look at all the great buildings and streets we are anxious to preserve. No council planning was involved. Sadly we have become a society in decline and one of the most obvious markers of that is planning. Namely power taken from people. Or should that be stolen and given to council planners.
You could get a house for that much back then, IF you could get one. There was a major housing crisis in the 50s and 60s. Remember "Cathy Come Home" ?
Everyone in the 70s looked like the guy at 9:45.
Even my Mum,Nan and auntie Debbie.
@@BenjaminNavillus lol.
If you build it, they will come...and come they did. How wrong Mr Drew was.
19:25 to 19:31 that was a bit harsh!!!!!!
0:18 haha
When government built housing instead of shops
Councils, not government
A tad out of synch, methinks, giving the classic 'Humphrey Bogart' diction ambience.
Oh for God's sake! What a pretentious comment!
Long Live Rush
Trump 2021
California guy here with no knowledge of London-- could any Londoners share the Google map coordinates of this area, so I can see what it looks like now?
Sorry for the 2 year delay in any reply! 😂 But at least you didn't have to wait 54 years to see the result of the Docklands Development plans! maps.app.goo.gl/FeUVj6Tv7mYo1AxUA?g_st=ac
Charles Dickens's 'Bleak House' and Circumlocution Office' that were both in place 'then' - are both still in place 'now'.
As an amateur social scientist, - I confess a rather perverse attitude
or feeling about re-
development.