The AT lured me astray of the enduro racing world back in 16'. Then I bought a T7 in 21' thinking the lighter more capable bike be better for my style. It wasn't. It was just a less comfortable and less powerful version of the AT. Both bikes are just big and unwieldy off-road, but I found the T7 more demanding than the AT. Probably because of the weight way up high and the budget suspension. Still fun but I have a much better time on the AT off-road than the T7. ON-road the AT is another level compared to the T7 and there's just no conversation there. I sold the T7. I've always wondered why people find the T7 easier to ride when I found the opposite. For me the next smallest appropriate bike to own was the 500exc-f but I only really ride that on single track.
This is useful. I own an AT ATAS and despite the heavy weight, it is sooo good offroad due to the amazing showa electronic suspension and geometry. I was hoping to downsize to the T7 to gain more confidence and agility offroad but that might not be the case based on your experience. I might complement my AT with something even lighter like the husky 701.
Even though i really like the less weight of a T7, considering i ride 90% on road i cant let the comfort, power and wind/rain protection of the AT go. Thanks for making this great video!
The Africa Twin is a super fun, and has a lot of grunt power. But it certainly doesn't feel as nimble as the T7. But that's just my opinion. Try them both out, if you can!
Get rid of the black box and side bags. Move to a giant loop style bag. You want to ride like a pro? All that bulk and weight adds up and does make a difference. Go as light as possible plus you wont hit a tree or vehicle with that crap hanging off the side.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I have a 2016 AT, standard, manual gearbox, and can't get rid of it. Yes, it is heavy, but if it keeps moving it seems much lighter. When goes down I can get it up alone, if it is not in an awkward position, but I never ride alone. As I got more confidence and experience off roading I went to more gnarly trails and I started to want a more nimble platform. The T7 was on my thoughts and tried a friend's T7, but not in serious terrain, because I had no guts to let it fall down. Anyway, we compared bikes and feelings, and I decided to keep the mighty África Twin and improve my riding skills. On road and longer rides, I feel the Africa Twin more comfortable and stable, a very linear power delivery, lots of low revs torque. To overcome the (my) limits on off road I bought an old DRZ 400E as a training platform. I would say that my skills are a lot better and improved my confidence when I take the AT to the trails. If I couldn't' have both probably I would choose a big single, as the husky 701 or the AJP PR7. To finish, I must say that when I bought my AT the T7 was not available yet. Now, probably would choose the Teneré. The AT became too expensive and sophisticated.
Thanks for posting. You don't see the Africa twins off road here in Australia, but you see plenty of T700. It's replacing the DR650 as the go to bike.
Yeah. I can totally see that being the case. I hope the T7 is as reliable and tough as the good 'ol DR650!
The AT lured me astray of the enduro racing world back in 16'. Then I bought a T7 in 21' thinking the lighter more capable bike be better for my style. It wasn't.
It was just a less comfortable and less powerful version of the AT. Both bikes are just big and unwieldy off-road, but I found the T7 more demanding than the AT. Probably because of the weight way up high and the budget suspension. Still fun but I have a much better time on the AT off-road than the T7. ON-road the AT is another level compared to the T7 and there's just no conversation there. I sold the T7. I've always wondered why people find the T7 easier to ride when I found the opposite. For me the next smallest appropriate bike to own was the 500exc-f but I only really ride that on single track.
This is useful. I own an AT ATAS and despite the heavy weight, it is sooo good offroad due to the amazing showa electronic suspension and geometry. I was hoping to downsize to the T7 to gain more confidence and agility offroad but that might not be the case based on your experience. I might complement my AT with something even lighter like the husky 701.
Even though i really like the less weight of a T7, considering i ride 90% on road i cant let the comfort, power and wind/rain protection of the AT go. Thanks for making this great video!
Thanks. Agreed. I really like the low rpm grunt of the AT. Kinda makes shifting into a low gear optional.
great video! I also have the 2017 AT but find it too big when it comes to technical stuff. - so, I have my eye on a few T7's...thanks for sharing.
Absolutely! I do love the power of the AT. But the weight definitely gets to me.
The 90s look signal turn makes me smile, really? In 2020-ish?
amazing video was thinking in getting a african twin but there is a lot traffic in my country
The Africa Twin is a super fun, and has a lot of grunt power. But it certainly doesn't feel as nimble as the T7. But that's just my opinion. Try them both out, if you can!
Thanks for the share! Very clear and useful!
Excellent! That's what I was going for.
I have a 2017 AT and a T7 Extreme Edition on order. Found this vid very interesting 👍
The extreme edition T7 sounds awesome! What pushed you to make the change? (Or the addition?)
@@PointsUnknownTV mainly weight... I may still keep the AT, not sure yet 👍
I want to do off road but I'm gonna have some highway too Im leaning more towards the tenere though...
Awesome! Go get it!
@@PointsUnknownTV I'm hesitating....
I want them both ;[
Get rid of the black box and side bags. Move to a giant loop style bag. You want to ride like a pro? All that bulk and weight adds up and does make a difference. Go as light as possible plus you wont hit a tree or vehicle with that crap hanging off the side.
Which of both of them can finish world tour without any problem ?😊
Both? Either? I find the T7 easier to work on. Changing the air filters on the AT is ridiculous.
@@PointsUnknownTVi see remove the fairing is not that hard 🤔
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I have a 2016 AT, standard, manual gearbox, and can't get rid of it.
Yes, it is heavy, but if it keeps moving it seems much lighter. When goes down I can get it up alone, if it is not in an awkward position, but I never ride alone.
As I got more confidence and experience off roading I went to more gnarly trails and I started to want a more nimble platform. The T7 was on my thoughts and tried a friend's T7, but not in serious terrain, because I had no guts to let it fall down. Anyway, we compared bikes and feelings, and I decided to keep the mighty África Twin and improve my riding skills.
On road and longer rides, I feel the Africa Twin more comfortable and stable, a very linear power delivery, lots of low revs torque.
To overcome the (my) limits on off road I bought an old DRZ 400E as a training platform. I would say that my skills are a lot better and improved my confidence when I take the AT to the trails.
If I couldn't' have both probably I would choose a big single, as the husky 701 or the AJP PR7.
To finish, I must say that when I bought my AT the T7 was not available yet. Now, probably would choose the Teneré. The AT became too expensive and sophisticated.
Technology has it's moments as the T9 has been announced, and the dance continues lol