Try to use disc locks on all 3 discs, the rear especially as it's harder to get to. Also use 2 disc locks on each front disc, 1 against the leading edge of the forks, and 1 up underneath the caliper. This means the wheel cannot be rotated, and if you've done the same on the rear disc the bike cannot be rolled at all. This helps to prevent the skateboard trick of lifting one end of the bike onto a skateboard or sack barrow and rolling the bike away. Chain the back wheel up through luggage/top box racking. There's also chaining the front wheel to the centre stand, chain pulled tight so the bike cannot be dropped off the centre stand. There's plenty of ways to secure a bike if you are willing to take the time to do it, after all it's just got to be more of a pain to steal than the bike that's next to yours.
None of that stops 2 blokes pulling up and lifting it into a van though.. your methods will stop the teenagers yeah but most bike thieves throw it in a stolen van and fuck off never to be seen again lol
Spot on Russ, very well advised. As an ex police officer you've explained this all perfectly! Some good info on the testing of so called secure devices. Much appreciated once again!
Covers are very underrated, if you could get one preferably all black with the holes near the wheels so a cable lock or chain can fit through it’s a good start.
Good advice, thanks. As you suggest yourself, I was advised very early on that what you're basically aiming to do is cause them hassle, and consider that another target might be a better option (for them). I use chains myself - but knowing that they can all be potentially cut by someone tooled up and determined, I make sure that there isn't a convenient slack loop that they can (easily) get the bolt-croppers (or power tool) to. Or at least, that's what I hope and think I'm doing! Additional tip. Just nipping in the shop for a minute? Then that's about 10 seconds more than the time they need to bundle it into a van. I've also seen video of people lifting up and removing chained/disc-locked/shackled bikes with a small lorry plus crane (like builders use to get bricks and bags of sand delivered) - think about that when you leave yours, and maybe slot into between a couple of cars, behind a lamp-post - use whatever cover and inconvenience you can. Thanks for the tips and info, Russ.
Also for the: It wont happen to me, I live in a safe neighbourhood crowd. There was a Honda SP2 stolen recently in a sleepy village in the middle of nowhere near where I live. The village had barely 100 people maximum, and the only way you'd know its there is if you are driving through and saw it. Yours might be a safe neighbourhood, but thieves have vans to travel there.
Whether it's a motorbike or a bicycle you need a security system and not just a security lock. There are now also u-locks available that are angle grinder resistant so for my e-bike I'm using a Litelok X3 which is on pre-order for next month + I also use two motion alarmed disc locks which sound off a warning before they go off fully as well as a Samsung Galaxy smart tag.
Tracker wise, automatricks M-track is a good option. Similar price to the smaller ones but with a massive battery and RF finding capabilities. You pay a monthly fee (15 quid) but they go and recover the bike for you, phone the police and everything. The best option I've found by far when it comes to trackers. Otherwise agree with the entire video. Almax chains and Squire locks. Keep them off the ground and use a cover if you can. Not much else you can do. Oh actually, bicycle alarms ! Hide them under the front of the bike and if anybody moves the bike it will beep, super cheap and quite effective !
I really think the clipped on bike cover is the real deterrent. The Scummers might know the type of bike but can't really come properly prepared because the bike might have 3 or 4 layers of security underneath. And lets face it they are fundamentally lazy bstds.
One thing I don't see mentioned here which I've used for a long time and which is dirt cheap, is a baby monitor. Last attempt at getting into my garage the thieves had woken me up poking about before they'd even started.
Bloody scummers. Mates in the US are shocked at how bad it is here for theft. All the police do is hand out crime numbers like it’s a sort of attendance voucher.
Only addition i would make is pick resistance. A lot of locks may look beefy but have easily or moderately easily bypassable cores. I like lockpickinglawyer for illuminating that aspect.
Great upload, thanks. I agree, more locks the better. Best to avoid the Oxford Screamer, it doesn't like cold weather, a few hours outside and the alarm will go off or if reactivating it, it will continuously go off at a different pitch. In those cases, I have to bring it indoors to heat up, which defeats the purpose lol
Agreed, for the money the Screamer goes for I think the Oxford big boss alarm style disc locks, especially the 16mm version are much better value and more reliable.
My last road trip was on a Harley 2018 Fat Bob FXFBS. I never worried about it getting stolen it never did get stolen and I never used alarms or tracking devices. I now own a triumph tiger 900 GT pro and I'm going to take it on a West Coast trip. For some reason I'm more concerned about this motorcycle so I put a tracker on it and I'll be using two disc brake lock one on the front and rear.
A little bit simplistic but when my girl is in the garage I park my car right up against the door. In order to get to her they'd have to move my car first which is an automatic so left in gear with an electronic parking brake. Personally I'd like to hide a hand grenade under the seat since I'm unlikely to get her back anyway might as well take something of theirs in return eh? But my other girl (my long suffering wife) says that's a bit extreme 🤔
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I use 99% of what you covered at once ever since my first bike (ZX6R) got stolen. The only thing I don't use is chaining it to an immovable object. Although I am thinking about linking it through the bumper of my car where they have little tow hook. So at least at home it'll be anchored to something.
I fitted a theatrical sound grenade on a trip wire in my garage. But after setting it of accidentally I went back to a battery powered alarm. Three years later my hearing is almost back to normal. On the upside it killed every spider in the place.
You forgot the most important,an Insurance company that will pay out with the smallest amount of excess so Your getting most of the value of the bike back from them.
I Like This Video..I had My Scooter Stolen Some Time Ago..And I Got it Back..Now I Have An Alarm Disk Break Lock For The Front Wheel And and A Back Wheel Lock
12 gauge shotgun on a rotating system with a sensor lol and a moat full of crocodiles lol. You forgot them lol. I have a few things on my Michigan. I think the more items you put on is better than nothing. Like you said make it hard for them. 🙂
Thank you all good tips and I fully agree it’s about moving the slide hammer crew along. I think it also involves thinking where you leave your bike. I think motorbike covers as you suggested are great ideal as for the Disk-locks, yes been there done that but I now place the hiv viz springy cable from handlebar lever to handlerbar then I’ll never forget it’s on and makes people see it
My method for "not-forgetting-to-remove-your-bloody-disk-lock". I have a piece of velcro that goes across the keyhole of the disc lock. When I place the disc lock the piece of velcro moves from covering the keyhole on the lock to the ignition key hole of the bike. So when I want to ride away I can't insert the bike key without removing the strip of velcro that goes back to living on the disc lock when not in use.
it's not the bike manufacturers but the insurance companies who should dictate minimum specs for new bike security for such things as steering locks and immobilisers or say they will not insure them. At home I have a rock anchor for ground security, tracker and Smartwater protection also cctv covers its home position.
Almax rusts like crazy, a few years of outdoor use leaves it looking like it spent 50 years in the sea. When I took the sleeve off my 2M Almax III I got about 700ml of rust scale out of it, and that's before any wire brushing or whatever. I fear this may have compromised the case hardening. By comparison, an Oxford used in exactly the same location has slight surface rust, and another I believe is "English Chain" has none. The Squire SS65 locks used on both the Almax and the "English" have a tiny bit of cosmetic surface corrosion, the Oxford Boss alarm lock used on the Oxford chain had just enough corrosion inside to make it difficult to withdraw the battery holder, I had to push it out using a pick in the shackle hole. Worth noting the only thing on the bike that's rotted at a similar rate is the the bolts in the cheap chinese bar-ends.
I don’t use my steering lock ! The chances are it’s something I will have to repair after some scab has tried taking my bike. Also, have you noticed that bike covers don’t fit right when the steering is turned to one side ? My main security is a heavy chain & a mini D lock. The chain is long enough to go around a solid object & the mini D lock is just the right size to go through the brake disk making it very hard to remove from the bike without causing a lot of damage. The chain obviously goes through the wheel as well meaning many cuts would be needed to remove the combination. I also have an alarmed disk lock with a reminder cord. At home on the driveway I have a chain anchor point.
Ive just brought a TC Max Electric motorbike, i can take the battery out and leave it indoors, the battery is £1500 new, so makes the bike worthless and not worth stealing, i do still use my disc locks and bike cover though, but make your bike not worth stealing in the first place is just another deterrent.
Got 2 bikes chained up through the back wheels to a proper buried in concrete ground anchor with a pragmasis 19mm chain and Squire lock, then an additional pragmasis 13mm chain and squire lock each on the front wheels, plus disc locks, plus covers that the chains also go through to lock them to the bikes at each end.. Only downside the ground anchor makes it rather difficult to keep the 19mm chain off the floor! I think probably getting on for £1k in security, worth every penny if only to help me sleep at night!
I used 2 10mm chains, 1 brake lock and 1 disc lock every time. I have always said you have yo make it harder for them to brake everything. On a lighter note that yellow disc lock reminder did not help me lol got a video up on it too lol
Iv always been a fan on the xena disk locks. I think its the shape of them, in my mind woukd make it more difficult to break off. They also come on some hefty sizes
If you use a disc lock, try getting one with an alarm. Not just to deter thieves but also so you don't accidentally ride off with it still on your bike. If that's not an option, put it in a way that *if* you drive off, it'll lock your wheel up instantly before it can do any real damage
I use a Lite-Lok to secure my bike. The best thing about it is that I actually use it (in combination with other things too). I was finding heavy chains often stayed at home.
I'm just worried I saw a lite lock cut through in 16 seconds and some you tubers recommend it because they were given one. Using with other security is definitely the way to go. th-cam.com/video/D-On0DGcDlc/w-d-xo.html
@@RoadcraftNottingham Thanks. As you rightly said nothing is going to stop someone who is determined and equipped but bolt cutters, jemmy bar and disc cutters, which are the usual tools thieves use, should be resisted by a Lite-Lok. If it doesn't I might lose the lock but the other stuff should be enough to put casual thieves off.
Hi Russ interesting video you have put up never seen how easy it is to break the steering lock, These type of people that seem to believe that they have the right to take what does not belong to them, Can one obtain a steel wire that is not very easy to cut with bolt cutters or grinder, Kind regards, Steph
Steering lock I don’t use - it’s not even a seconds deterrent to a thief. I had two bikes stolen in a burglary seven years ago - both with Almax chains and a ground anchor. They also stole the chains. I told the insurers I’d not used the steering lock and why and they were fine.
Had my bike stolen beginning of the year. It was recovered not far from me. Had I not put the steering lock on. I would’ve just got my bike back and rode off. But due to the damage I couldn’t start it cost £400 to fix. I never Leave my steering lock on ever.
My most recent theft (3rd in 3 years) bike had an alarmed disc lock which they silenced when lifting the bike as I was sleeping only a few metres away. How did they do that?
I use a disc lock alarm like the first one shown, a big motorbike chain and bolts secured with nuts in the calipers and its also covered in a plain black cover in my back garden I've also got a big dog and a katana in my house. Think my dirt bike should be okay hopefully.
I've had two of the granit ones. The first one held for about a a year and a half before it literally fell apart while I was unlocking it. Thought I was just unlucky and got another one. After a few months it started acting up. Alarm goes off even if completely still. Now I use that one without batteries :(
Fit your disc lock to the back wheel, I know it's a lot harder work to fit and remove but you try dragging a big bike on it's front wheel. Also there is a round body & pin rotating disc lock that is almost impossible to cut with a disc grinder as it rotates easily and is very hard to hold due to it's shape, it's a big name brand so I won't mention it.
@@alexmorgan3435 Fair comment, didn't want to invite promotional critics, also I couldn't remember at the time. It's the ABUS Granit Victory XPlus 68 long name for what is quite a compact lock.
@@RoadcraftNottingham Abus do a version like this, I think Oxford have a Patriot branded version and Pragamsis at securityforbikes have their own version called the RoundLock.
I doubt there are many bike thieves carrying 3 foot bolt cutters in their pockets! It appears there are a lot of bike thieves in the UK. We don’t have near that many in the US where I live!
Any device or bracking system that locks the brakes in brake locked position like hand brake when ignition off and oem key removed then bike wheels can't spin until bike turn on or braking system cut off or removed. Its some difficult to ride a bike without brake for thieves they are in hurry and end up in accident. It doesn't help when the bike carried by van but it will help most of the time. Hidden fuel pump cut off switch or only be working with nfc then if the rider away from bike fuel pump stop working so the bike can't be bikejacked.
My best so far. 1. Allen bolt and its nut. It's small, almost invisible at first glance. Slip into disc brake hole. And l drop my bike. 2. Remove ignition fuse. I'm sweating because l forgot to put it back. 3. Keyless, immobilizer, alarm. Yea... It's expensive, but it give time. 4. Have unpopular bike, lower chances to get stolen. 5. In garage, put bike between wall and car. So there no way bike moved. Need move the car first.
First bike I had after the 125 was stolen/recovered but still had a broken steering lock. I never used one and never will. Those hiplock and litelok things look great
Never rely on one lock or one chain, no matter how good or expensive they are... Because it won’t take more then a minute to grind one lock off or a chain... I use 4 locks on mine when leaving it outside somewhere, and chained to something you cannot move if leaving it for long. Two locks are alarmed and the other two are normal. Front wheel two locks, one alarmed, rear sprocket lock, and a rear wheel with alarmed lock... Maybe sounds like an overkill, but I would rather always comeback to my bike and ride away, then discover a broken lock or a chain on the floor instead of the bike that I worked hard for.... A tank bag is big enough for 4 locks and it takes less then a minute to put them all on and take them off... Make it a real pain in in the ass for the bastards , and they probably won’t even bother... If they cannot take it fast, they will probably avoid... Grinding off 4 locks will take some time, make lots of noise and attract attention ... So the main thing is not to be lazy to lock it properly, and don’t care about other people’s opinion when it comes to security of your bike ... :) If you working at the same place all the time, you can bring your big heavy chain once and leave it at work somewhere hidden... don’t have to carry it home back and forth all the time...
I leave my almax immobiliser 5 chained to a lamppost opposite my work place - cheap small d-lock at front so I don’t forget it’s locked upfront, Abloy padlock and another d-lock on the front disc. Got news from a doorman tonight that three cunts were eying up my bike, lifting the chain etc, so I purchased an Abus Granit Detecto disc lock and a Kovix brake-lever lock when I got home. The bullshit you have to go through owning a bike in London
That bloke won't be throwing them moves with the bold croppers If the chain was attached to a bike locked to a ground anchor right up next to a corner of a wall. You need room to crop chains.
Is the high theft rate a UK thing or a Euro thing??? I just don’t see much about it in the US. There was a period in the late 90’s when lots of Harleys were being heisted. I follow another UK motorcycle TH-camr and he has several videos about security devices too.
I have to agree ,out here on the west coast theft is not a big thing. You are correct harleys were heisted back in the day and most if not all went overseas lately sport bikes have been stolen mainly for parts and I'm told its by "stunters" that wreck there own bikes and are in need of parts. Now my theory is that theft is rare due to the second ammendment If you break into someone's garage with intent to commit robbery it might not go to well for you what with Stand your ground laws and Castle doctirne . Now that my sound extreme to some but whats mine is mine bought and paid for by my hard work and some low life thinks he can help himself to it..... not so much.
Disc locks, disconnect the brakes bike can be ridden away, chain and D locks can be cut off in about 30 seconds. Tracker, located and removed or copied 2 to 4 minutes. Bike alarm expanding foam. Bikes of any value are carried into a back of van. Usually bike thieves use a spotter who visits the target and checks for camera and ease of loading bike onto van.
Some very good points but slightly over-simplified. When we change discs in our workshop we need a lot of heat to enable the threadlocked bolts to come out without the hex bolt stripping at the end. The bottom line is as I mentioned, the biggest enemies of the thief are time, light and noise but as you do mention, the best ones will make quite light work of it. These measures are all in the hope that 99% or so of the scumbags will move on. Thanks for the comment.
Nice video, the lock picking lawyer on YT shows how pathetically easy it is for most locks to be opened in seconds 😩, but for me the manufacturers have a lot to answer for, they spend millions giving us electronic rider aids etc we can do without, but do next to nothing about their customers actually keeping hold of their bike. A properly designed steering lock made out of proper materials would stop at least half of all bike thefts. Why don’t manufacturers use modern day technology to stop there bikes being stolen so easily, well it’s because they are under no pressure to do so, if journalists start asking about bike security at new bike launches then that journalist will find themselves black listed pretty quick. The insurance companies have all of the details of bike thefts, but do you see the details plastered over the front pages of bike press, MCN have a beat the bike thieves section, but it’s pointless, stop the bikes getting stolen in the first place. It absolutely winds me up.
Totally agreed. Regarding LPL though, I very much doubt that most scumbags will try to pick a lock. LPL is a bit of a god and the exception to the rule.
there is no way to stop thieves. in the corner situation one can approach you with the gun and you will give him the key probably the only way to get the money back is insurance
So, just to sum up! I need 10 locks, a garage, German Shepard, st Bernard, loaded shot gun and explosives! Bit expensive! Maybe a few zip ties will do! 😅😄😃🤣
The age of the video is irrelevant and since you asked how they got the shackle lock off your bike, they picked the lock. I've seen countless videos about bike security (that's why I'm here), and you guys need to know that anything that uses a key can be opened in about 3-5 seconds. It does not matter who makes the lock, it only matters if they guy stealing your bike knows how and has the tool(s) in his pocket. It takes only minutes to learn, costs about $100 and you can pick any key lock on the planet nearly as fast as you can with a key and no one will know you are doing it. These locks are deterrents for most people, I agree with that, but time and opportunity is usually what everyone else relies on. But a picker will have your lock off, engine started and rolling away in 20 seconds.
I have 1 of the best deterrents but I can't say it. However - It's very simple & actually don't cost a thing but time. Here's the scenario. A thief is trying to ride away with your bike - it'll be very hard. A thief is trying to roll away with your bike, it'll be very hard. A thief is trying to grab your motor cycle and roll it into a van, it'll be very hard. All it'll cost you is time. An alarm that keeps blaring will make them decide to drop it and just leave it. My remedy is so simple that yeah if they want your bike, it'll be very hard and very inconvenient for them even if your bike is nice & shinny. I know I'll get a lot of people going oh I could do that & laugh at how simple it it but also say - I don't have time for that but yeah, neither will the thief. The chain & lock people would be pissed off to know people started doing it. The other security measures would definitely help also.
I think the most important point you touched on was the idea of putting the lowlives off of an attempt on your bike in the first place. A premeditated and planned theft will succeed 99% of the time, but make it as unattractive and griefy as possible and they’ll pick another bike that’s easier... thieves are lazy... So I use two Oxford XL chains, one round the front wheel and forks, the other round the back wheel and through the frame, each attached to a ground anchor, and bike is covered - I think covering a bike has a huge positive effect - if they can’t see it, they will pick one that stands out over it... again thieves are lazy, that’s why they are thieves! Front chain attached to disc/padlock also. It’s hassle when I go out, but if it’s annoying for me, it must be hassle for lowlives as well!
I'd add to this and say that I use my old knackered cover over the top of a much nicer one, extra layer of water resistance but also its looks shite! Nobody is going to expect anything decent being under there
Locking the cover on is an easy extra deterrent too and if your chain isn't positioned to secure your cover you can use a bicycle style cable lock extension to secure the cover.
Chain suggestions For home use Make sure the chain is 16mm+ Almax Pragmasis Oxford beast Squire ABUS Milenco And for taking out with you make sure the chain is 12mm+ ABUS Granit Extreme X-plus 59 Milenco Coleraine ABUS Granit 58 loop lock-chain ABUS Platinum chain 34 recommended.
I bought an Asgard shed, which yes are rather expensive but are well worth it. I then bought 2 Abus Granit London U shackles which I put 1 on each wheel and then I bought a kryptonite New York 13 mm chain with a Squire stronghold padlock and to top it off I bought an Oxford 10mm chain with Master lock Pro series Bouron shackle. Oh yes 😆 I also bought an alarm for the shed and one for the bike, fitted CCTV and have a 10 stone Saint Bernard who sleep right next to the door and lets you know the moment anybody goes near the side gate. The joys of OCD.
I had my scooter eyed up and touched out the back of my house. Only knew this, as I have a blink camera on my washing line pole facing the bike lol if I didn't have that my scooter would probably have been stolen. After seeing the footage I posted to the towns Facebook group and contacted the police and they identified the person in the footage. I have since put a big fence up now. Amazon Blink cameras are amazing :)
I've always carried a padlock instead of a disc lock, for my 'convenient to carry' deterrent. Basically because you can get a padlock with a hexagonal shackle, so you'd have to cut it twice to get it off. Twice the time, twice the hassle. Can also easily be used with a chain and/or put through the disc or sprocket...
I don’t lock mine and leave the keys in the ignition, I live in a Avenue with no way through, I sleep above the garage and my ex military Alsatian sleeps next to my bike, savage will alert me if some one enters the top of the Avenue 100 yards away with 4 barks , if they come closer the bark will become more frequent, if they come closer it turn to snarling and ramming the door to get to them, I can open my door remotely from my bed, after I have identified who it is from my cctv.👊👍
Keep it out of sight, cover on the bike, locked with chain to a solid object and disc lock. Got tracking as well which is cool but I like to think I’m keeping it semi safe... like you said, if they really want it- they will find a way of stealing it.
I agree about the cover, being locked with a chain to a solid object and the disc lock, however I would rather have it somewhere were there are lots of people about. Keeping it out of sight only means that a thief will be able to get to work stealing your bike pretty much undisturbed.
@@Seagull-Matthames out of sight like not out in the sunshine and in clear view. a main road but you park it behind a car, on a busy high street but keeping it covered, or in a car park with cctv rather than an alley way behind Morrison’s.
If its inconvenient for you then it will be more inconvenient for the thief dont just put one lock on it use a few with different brands even if it takes you 10mins getting it all off if someones going to steal your stuff then make them work very hard for it either they will give up half way or somebody's going to notice cutting through locks and chains makes alot of sound specially multiple locks added alarms as well.
Thanks for sharing these tips. I used to rely on blocking the bike in with the car (cage) but in a spate of thefts at the time the vermin were cutting brake cables and moving cars to remove people's pride joy and Transport. Frustrates me that we have to do so much but as said, let's not make it easy for the scumbags
The only disc lock I've not seen London bike thieves get past is the Xena XX series. They're alarmed disc locks and can be fitted either between the fork and brake calliper meaning they cannot get at the disc to cut it (I've seen Xena's removed in this way) or I put mine on the rear disc between the calliper and swingarm. Defo recommend giving them a look although mines the slightly older model without bluetooth but that hasn't been an issue.
Try to use disc locks on all 3 discs, the rear especially as it's harder to get to.
Also use 2 disc locks on each front disc, 1 against the leading edge of the forks, and 1 up underneath the caliper. This means the wheel cannot be rotated, and if you've done the same on the rear disc the bike cannot be rolled at all.
This helps to prevent the skateboard trick of lifting one end of the bike onto a skateboard or sack barrow and rolling the bike away.
Chain the back wheel up through luggage/top box racking.
There's also chaining the front wheel to the centre stand, chain pulled tight so the bike cannot be dropped off the centre stand.
There's plenty of ways to secure a bike if you are willing to take the time to do it, after all it's just got to be more of a pain to steal than the bike that's next to yours.
None of that stops 2 blokes pulling up and lifting it into a van though.. your methods will stop the teenagers yeah but most bike thieves throw it in a stolen van and fuck off never to be seen again lol
That’s an awful lot of time to lock up just to grab a loaf of bread though.
@@nlmaster9811 Clown!
@@offshoretinker He's right though.
Spot on Russ, very well advised. As an ex police officer you've explained this all perfectly! Some good info on the testing of so called secure devices. Much appreciated once again!
Praise indeed, thanks for the feedback. ☺
Covers are very underrated, if you could get one preferably all black with the holes near the wheels so a cable lock or chain can fit through it’s a good start.
Good advice, thanks. As you suggest yourself, I was advised very early on that what you're basically aiming to do is cause them hassle, and consider that another target might be a better option (for them). I use chains myself - but knowing that they can all be potentially cut by someone tooled up and determined, I make sure that there isn't a convenient slack loop that they can (easily) get the bolt-croppers (or power tool) to. Or at least, that's what I hope and think I'm doing!
Additional tip. Just nipping in the shop for a minute? Then that's about 10 seconds more than the time they need to bundle it into a van. I've also seen video of people lifting up and removing chained/disc-locked/shackled bikes with a small lorry plus crane (like builders use to get bricks and bags of sand delivered) - think about that when you leave yours, and maybe slot into between a couple of cars, behind a lamp-post - use whatever cover and inconvenience you can. Thanks for the tips and info, Russ.
Any extra info is very welcome. Thanks.
Also for the: It wont happen to me, I live in a safe neighbourhood crowd. There was a Honda SP2 stolen recently in a sleepy village in the middle of nowhere near where I live. The village had barely 100 people maximum, and the only way you'd know its there is if you are driving through and saw it. Yours might be a safe neighbourhood, but thieves have vans to travel there.
Never be complacent about this kind of thing for sure.
@@alexmorgan3435 I'm always aware of people following and forgot to mention it here.
Whether it's a motorbike or a bicycle you need a security system and not just a security lock. There are now also u-locks available that are angle grinder resistant so for my e-bike I'm using a Litelok X3 which is on pre-order for next month + I also use two motion alarmed disc locks which sound off a warning before they go off fully as well as a Samsung Galaxy smart tag.
Tracker wise, automatricks M-track is a good option. Similar price to the smaller ones but with a massive battery and RF finding capabilities.
You pay a monthly fee (15 quid) but they go and recover the bike for you, phone the police and everything. The best option I've found by far when it comes to trackers.
Otherwise agree with the entire video.
Almax chains and Squire locks. Keep them off the ground and use a cover if you can. Not much else you can do.
Oh actually, bicycle alarms ! Hide them under the front of the bike and if anybody moves the bike it will beep, super cheap and quite effective !
Thanks for the info. The more the merrier. Sounds like a good service.
@@RoadcraftNottingham They have a youtube channel showing their whole operation. Sold me. th-cam.com/channels/WRXwGwCL8VqRaDSqmCnxaw.html
I really think the clipped on bike cover is the real deterrent. The Scummers might know the type of bike but can't really come properly prepared because the bike might have 3 or 4 layers of security underneath. And lets face it they are fundamentally lazy bstds.
They steal the cover first. Watch for that.
The best bike security video on TH-cam by far
Great advice as always. Bike security is all about layers. Just make it more hassle for them.
Exactly. ☺
One thing I don't see mentioned here which I've used for a long time and which is dirt cheap, is a baby monitor. Last attempt at getting into my garage the thieves had woken me up poking about before they'd even started.
Good call.
Don't forget the baseball bat accessory.
Bloody scummers. Mates in the US are shocked at how bad it is here for theft. All the police do is hand out crime numbers like it’s a sort of attendance voucher.
AK 47
Get Mr browning to help aswell
Only addition i would make is pick resistance. A lot of locks may look beefy but have easily or moderately easily bypassable cores. I like lockpickinglawyer for illuminating that aspect.
Lockpicking lawyer is awesome
Great upload, thanks. I agree, more locks the better. Best to avoid the Oxford Screamer, it doesn't like cold weather, a few hours outside and the alarm will go off or if reactivating it, it will continuously go off at a different pitch. In those cases, I have to bring it indoors to heat up, which defeats the purpose lol
Thanks for the feedback.
Agreed, for the money the Screamer goes for I think the Oxford big boss alarm style disc locks, especially the 16mm version are much better value and more reliable.
Mines been fine, down to minus temps 🤷🏻♂️
That bike that was locked and lifted into the van would have been much more difficult for the two people if the rear wheel had a lockl too.
My last road trip was on a Harley 2018 Fat Bob FXFBS. I never worried about it getting stolen it never did get stolen and I never used alarms or tracking devices. I now own a triumph tiger 900 GT pro and I'm going to take it on a West Coast trip. For some reason I'm more concerned about this motorcycle so I put a tracker on it and I'll be using two disc brake lock one on the front and rear.
A little bit simplistic but when my girl is in the garage I park my car right up against the door. In order to get to her they'd have to move my car first which is an automatic so left in gear with an electronic parking brake. Personally I'd like to hide a hand grenade under the seat since I'm unlikely to get her back anyway might as well take something of theirs in return eh? But my other girl (my long suffering wife) says that's a bit extreme 🤔
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I use 99% of what you covered at once ever since my first bike (ZX6R) got stolen. The only thing I don't use is chaining it to an immovable object. Although I am thinking about linking it through the bumper of my car where they have little tow hook. So at least at home it'll be anchored to something.
I fitted a theatrical sound grenade on a trip wire in my garage. But after setting it of accidentally I went back to a battery powered alarm. Three years later my hearing is almost back to normal.
On the upside it killed every spider in the place.
You can buy alarm mines that use blank 12g or .22 cartridges.
Teenagers fingers being firmly removed with an axe, I've found this a sound solution. Love from Scotland...
I have pretty aggressive thoughts like that too and wouldn't feel sorry for them. ☺
Could we take their man parts off too to decrease the population of thieving scum in the future (asking for all my biking friends)
Drugging and r&ping them.....too much? 😅😄😃🤣😎
You forgot the most important,an Insurance company that will pay out with the smallest amount of excess so Your getting most of the value of the bike back from them.
I Like This Video..I had My Scooter Stolen Some Time Ago..And I Got it Back..Now I Have An Alarm Disk Break Lock For The Front Wheel And and A Back Wheel Lock
12 gauge shotgun on a rotating system with a sensor lol and a moat full of crocodiles lol. You forgot them lol. I have a few things on my Michigan. I think the more items you put on is better than nothing. Like you said make it hard for them. 🙂
Thank you all good tips and I fully agree it’s about moving the slide hammer crew along. I think it also involves thinking where you leave your bike. I think motorbike covers as you suggested are great ideal as for the Disk-locks, yes been there done that but I now place the hiv viz springy cable from handlebar lever to handlerbar then I’ll never forget it’s on and makes people see it
My method for "not-forgetting-to-remove-your-bloody-disk-lock". I have a piece of velcro that goes across the keyhole of the disc lock. When I place the disc lock the piece of velcro moves from covering the keyhole on the lock to the ignition key hole of the bike. So when I want to ride away I can't insert the bike key without removing the strip of velcro that goes back to living on the disc lock when not in use.
it's not the bike manufacturers but the insurance companies who should dictate minimum specs for new bike security for such things as steering locks and immobilisers or say they will not insure them. At home I have a rock anchor for ground security, tracker and Smartwater protection also cctv covers its home position.
Sounds like mine. ☺
Almax rusts like crazy, a few years of outdoor use leaves it looking like it spent 50 years in the sea. When I took the sleeve off my 2M Almax III I got about 700ml of rust scale out of it, and that's before any wire brushing or whatever. I fear this may have compromised the case hardening.
By comparison, an Oxford used in exactly the same location has slight surface rust, and another I believe is "English Chain" has none. The Squire SS65 locks used on both the Almax and the "English" have a tiny bit of cosmetic surface corrosion, the Oxford Boss alarm lock used on the Oxford chain had just enough corrosion inside to make it difficult to withdraw the battery holder, I had to push it out using a pick in the shackle hole.
Worth noting the only thing on the bike that's rotted at a similar rate is the the bolts in the cheap chinese bar-ends.
That's weird cos mine have been outside for about 5 years without a problem.
I don’t use my steering lock ! The chances are it’s something I will have to repair after some scab has tried taking my bike.
Also, have you noticed that bike covers don’t fit right when the steering is turned to one side ?
My main security is a heavy chain & a mini D lock. The chain is long enough to go around a solid object & the mini D lock is just the right size to go through the brake disk making it very hard to remove from the bike without causing a lot of damage. The chain obviously goes through the wheel as well meaning many cuts would be needed to remove the combination. I also have an alarmed disk lock with a reminder cord.
At home on the driveway I have a chain anchor point.
Ive just brought a TC Max Electric motorbike, i can take the battery out and leave it indoors, the battery is £1500 new, so makes the bike worthless and not worth stealing, i do still use my disc locks and bike cover though, but make your bike not worth stealing in the first place is just another deterrent.
Solid advice straight to the point. Thanks
Very helpful thanks for that. A combination of security features will help all but the most determined tea leaf.
Cheers!
Got 2 bikes chained up through the back wheels to a proper buried in concrete ground anchor with a pragmasis 19mm chain and Squire lock, then an additional pragmasis 13mm chain and squire lock each on the front wheels, plus disc locks, plus covers that the chains also go through to lock them to the bikes at each end.. Only downside the ground anchor makes it rather difficult to keep the 19mm chain off the floor! I think probably getting on for £1k in security, worth every penny if only to help me sleep at night!
Agreed, people will easily spend £600 on an end can but only £30 on a lock.
I used 2 10mm chains, 1 brake lock and 1 disc lock every time. I have always said you have yo make it harder for them to brake everything. On a lighter note that yellow disc lock reminder did not help me lol got a video up on it too lol
Feel free to post the link here lol
@@RoadcraftNottingham thank you.. link.. th-cam.com/video/zWNnXqw52-U/w-d-xo.html
@@RoadcraftNottingham now everyone can have a good old laugh at me too lol
@@whoamiuk1 You're just a member of the club.... But not noticing the reminder cable? That makes you head dropper! 😂
I have a goldwing. It's going no where. I'm really not bothered for too much additional security.
Why isn't it going anywhere
Iv always been a fan on the xena disk locks. I think its the shape of them, in my mind woukd make it more difficult to break off. They also come on some hefty sizes
Great video, what trackers do you recommend?
What a video to come across when my Varadero got stolen about a month ago. PTSD setting in lol.
If you use a disc lock, try getting one with an alarm. Not just to deter thieves but also so you don't accidentally ride off with it still on your bike.
If that's not an option, put it in a way that *if* you drive off, it'll lock your wheel up instantly before it can do any real damage
Mentioned the alarm lock bit with the Oxford big boss but forgot about mentioning putting the lock nearer the caliper. . Thanks. ☺
I use a Lite-Lok to secure my bike. The best thing about it is that I actually use it (in combination with other things too). I was finding heavy chains often stayed at home.
I'm just worried I saw a lite lock cut through in 16 seconds and some you tubers recommend it because they were given one. Using with other security is definitely the way to go.
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@@RoadcraftNottingham Thanks. As you rightly said nothing is going to stop someone who is determined and equipped but bolt cutters, jemmy bar and disc cutters, which are the usual tools thieves use, should be resisted by a Lite-Lok. If it doesn't I might lose the lock but the other stuff should be enough to put casual thieves off.
2 Dobermans that live in the garage with my bike adds to the other security features incorporated.
Hi Russ interesting video you have put up never seen how easy it is to break the steering lock,
These type of people that seem to believe that they have the right to take what does not belong to them,
Can one obtain a steel wire that is not very easy to cut with bolt cutters or grinder,
Kind regards,
Steph
I think anything less than 19mm is pretty croppable
Steering lock I don’t use - it’s not even a seconds deterrent to a thief.
I had two bikes stolen in a burglary seven years ago - both with Almax chains and a ground anchor. They also stole the chains. I told the insurers I’d not used the steering lock and why and they were fine.
Had my bike stolen beginning of the year. It was recovered not far from me. Had I not put the steering lock on. I would’ve just got my bike back and rode off. But due to the damage I couldn’t start it cost £400 to fix. I never Leave my steering lock on ever.
Exactly, but if anyone asks 😉
@@RoadcraftNottingham 😉
I own a Honda Forza 750 and if they break the steering lock then an eight grand bike is a write off so I don't bother using it.
My most recent theft (3rd in 3 years) bike had an alarmed disc lock which they silenced when lifting the bike as I was sleeping only a few metres away. How did they do that?
I use a disc lock alarm like the first one shown, a big motorbike chain and bolts secured with nuts in the calipers and its also covered in a plain black cover in my back garden I've also got a big dog and a katana in my house. Think my dirt bike should be okay hopefully.
As I said, nothing is guaranteed but that'll put most of them off. Nice one!
That's what im hoping for make it too hard and too much of an effort.
Thanks for a great video!
I use abus granit detecto x plus 8077 + abus 12ks chain. Im very happy with it. But it’s very heavy)
I've had two of the granit ones. The first one held for about a a year and a half before it literally fell apart while I was unlocking it. Thought I was just unlucky and got another one. After a few months it started acting up. Alarm goes off even if completely still. Now I use that one without batteries :(
@@Hedbrant2 Mine is 3 years old and it's 4 out of 5 condition. Maybe it depends on where you use it (rain, dust, snow, mud etc.)
@@Hedbrant2 Have a look at sledge 77. It has no alarm and more robust.
Great I learned something thanks Russ.
Fit your disc lock to the back wheel, I know it's a lot harder work to fit and remove but you try dragging a big bike on it's front wheel. Also there is a round body & pin rotating disc lock that is almost impossible to cut with a disc grinder as it rotates easily and is very hard to hold due to it's shape, it's a big name brand so I won't mention it.
If it's recommended, please let us know what it is
Please do mention.
@@alexmorgan3435 Fair comment, didn't want to invite promotional critics, also I couldn't remember at the time. It's the ABUS Granit Victory XPlus 68 long name for what is quite a compact lock.
@@RoadcraftNottingham Abus do a version like this, I think Oxford have a Patriot branded version and Pragamsis at securityforbikes have their own version called the RoundLock.
I doubt there are many bike thieves carrying 3 foot bolt cutters in their pockets! It appears there are a lot of bike thieves in the UK. We don’t have near that many in the US where I live!
"Turn you volume down though".... Thanks for the heads up after the video lol
Thanks for the video but now I can't sleep and I'm worried where I leave my bike!
Also worth checking Lock Pocking Lawyer as some bike locks can be opened in less than 30 seconds
How many bike thieves are going to put the hundreds of hours of training to attain to the requisite skill level to pick a good, quality lock tho...
@@RichO1701eSome of those good quality locks were defeated using other ways, coke cans etc.
That's got to be a CX 650 Turbo, bring back memories when i had mine.
I've just done a new upload on it. Take a look. ☺
Found it very useful thanks Ron
u mean russ
Any device or bracking system that locks the brakes in brake locked position like hand brake when ignition off and oem key removed then bike wheels can't spin until bike turn on or braking system cut off or removed. Its some difficult to ride a bike without brake for thieves they are in hurry and end up in accident. It doesn't help when the bike carried by van but it will help most of the time. Hidden fuel pump cut off switch or only be working with nfc then if the rider away from bike fuel pump stop working so the bike can't be bikejacked.
My best so far.
1. Allen bolt and its nut. It's small, almost invisible at first glance. Slip into disc brake hole. And l drop my bike.
2. Remove ignition fuse. I'm sweating because l forgot to put it back.
3. Keyless, immobilizer, alarm. Yea... It's expensive, but it give time.
4. Have unpopular bike, lower chances to get stolen.
5. In garage, put bike between wall and car. So there no way bike moved. Need move the car first.
Thanks for the good tips mate
No worries buddy
14 seconds for the Oxford Monster? Jesus Christ... I was hoping it would be at least 2 minutes....
Crash bars provide a very handy lifting handle for thieves although a 375Kg Harley is no easy lift :D
Harley thieves eh? Don't feed me lines 😉
@@RoadcraftNottingham Made mostly of metal, think of the scrap value :D
A ring alarm with cameras and motion detectors and alarm sensors kept in a garage
First bike I had after the 125 was stolen/recovered but still had a broken steering lock. I never used one and never will. Those hiplock and litelok things look great
*What happens when you lose key (assuming one has only one!) or if some overzealous person put superglue on keyhole?*
Really interesting, thank you
You're welcome
05:04 ...This isn't the big Oxford monster and you know that . This isn't the black one .
Never rely on one lock or one chain, no matter how good or expensive they are...
Because it won’t take more then a minute to grind one lock off or a chain...
I use 4 locks on mine when leaving it outside somewhere, and chained to something you cannot move if leaving it for long. Two locks are alarmed and the other two are normal. Front wheel two locks, one alarmed, rear sprocket lock, and a rear wheel with alarmed lock... Maybe sounds like an overkill, but I would rather always comeback to my bike and ride away, then discover a broken lock or a chain on the floor instead of the bike that I worked hard for.... A tank bag is big enough for 4 locks and it takes less then a minute to put them all on and take them off...
Make it a real pain in in the ass for the bastards , and they probably won’t even bother... If they cannot take it fast, they will probably avoid... Grinding off 4 locks will take some time, make lots of noise and attract attention ...
So the main thing is not to be lazy to lock it properly, and don’t care about other people’s opinion when it comes to security of your bike ... :) If you working at the same place all the time, you can bring your big heavy chain once and leave it at work somewhere hidden... don’t have to carry it home back and forth all the time...
Spot on advice, thanks.
I leave my almax immobiliser 5 chained to a lamppost opposite my work place - cheap small d-lock at front so I don’t forget it’s locked upfront, Abloy padlock and another d-lock on the front disc. Got news from a doorman tonight that three cunts were eying up my bike, lifting the chain etc, so I purchased an Abus Granit Detecto disc lock and a Kovix brake-lever lock when I got home. The bullshit you have to go through owning a bike in London
How long to actually cut the disk it self and could you ride or wheel it away ?
It still comes down to how much noise it's making and is there an easier bike to steal near it.
That bloke won't be throwing them moves with the bold croppers If the chain was attached to a bike locked to a ground anchor right up next to a corner of a wall. You need room to crop chains.
I use Pragmasis ground anchor, chain and lock. In my opinion they are the best. They can be found at securityforbikes.com
Very informative video, unfortunately two weeks late for me!
It's never too late when you get your new baby. ☺
Brilliant video
Thanks
use brake lever clamp on the clutch its not as easy to ride off without a clutch than a front brake
But the scum usually have a scooter too and push the bike away with their foot on the seat of the stolen bike.
Is the high theft rate a UK thing or a Euro thing??? I just don’t see much about it in the US. There was a period in the late 90’s when lots of Harleys were being heisted. I follow another UK motorcycle TH-camr and he has several videos about security devices too.
I have no idea if it's a Euro thing too or not, maybe Google could help but we're too soft on crime in the UK.
I have to agree ,out here on the west coast theft is not a big thing.
You are correct harleys were heisted back in the day and most if not all went overseas lately sport bikes have been stolen mainly for parts and I'm told its by "stunters" that wreck there own bikes and are in need of parts.
Now my theory is that theft is rare due to the second ammendment
If you break into someone's garage with intent to commit robbery it might not go to well for you what with Stand your ground laws and Castle doctirne .
Now that my sound extreme to some but whats mine is mine bought and paid for by my hard work and some low life thinks he can help himself to it..... not so much.
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Disc locks, disconnect the brakes bike can be ridden away, chain and D locks can be cut off in about 30 seconds. Tracker, located and removed or copied 2 to 4 minutes. Bike alarm expanding foam. Bikes of any value are carried into a back of van. Usually bike thieves use a spotter who visits the target and checks for camera and ease of loading bike onto van.
Some very good points but slightly over-simplified. When we change discs in our workshop we need a lot of heat to enable the threadlocked bolts to come out without the hex bolt stripping at the end. The bottom line is as I mentioned, the biggest enemies of the thief are time, light and noise but as you do mention, the best ones will make quite light work of it. These measures are all in the hope that 99% or so of the scumbags will move on. Thanks for the comment.
Best motorcycle security:
Boobytrap the thing with C4
Nice video, the lock picking lawyer on YT shows how pathetically easy it is for most locks to be opened in seconds 😩, but for me the manufacturers have a lot to answer for, they spend millions giving us electronic rider aids etc we can do without, but do next to nothing about their customers actually keeping hold of their bike. A properly designed steering lock made out of proper materials would stop at least half of all bike thefts. Why don’t manufacturers use modern day technology to stop there bikes being stolen so easily, well it’s because they are under no pressure to do so, if journalists start asking about bike security at new bike launches then that journalist will find themselves black listed pretty quick. The insurance companies have all of the details of bike thefts, but do you see the details plastered over the front pages of bike press, MCN have a beat the bike thieves section, but it’s pointless, stop the bikes getting stolen in the first place. It absolutely winds me up.
Totally agreed. Regarding LPL though, I very much doubt that most scumbags will try to pick a lock. LPL is a bit of a god and the exception to the rule.
there is no way to stop thieves. in the corner situation one can approach you with the gun and you will give him the key
probably the only way to get the money back is insurance
So, just to sum up! I need 10 locks, a garage, German Shepard, st Bernard, loaded shot gun and explosives! Bit expensive! Maybe a few zip ties will do! 😅😄😃🤣
Zip ties will confuse people around here. ☺
@@RoadcraftNottingham sorry, a plastic length that secures into itself via a zip function! May need a sturdy pair of scissors! Ps totally useless 😅😄😃🤣
Leave in gear and take gear shifter with you.
The age of the video is irrelevant and since you asked how they got the shackle lock off your bike, they picked the lock. I've seen countless videos about bike security (that's why I'm here), and you guys need to know that anything that uses a key can be opened in about 3-5 seconds. It does not matter who makes the lock, it only matters if they guy stealing your bike knows how and has the tool(s) in his pocket.
It takes only minutes to learn, costs about $100 and you can pick any key lock on the planet nearly as fast as you can with a key and no one will know you are doing it. These locks are deterrents for most people, I agree with that, but time and opportunity is usually what everyone else relies on. But a picker will have your lock off, engine started and rolling away in 20 seconds.
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All Oxford security products are far too hardened and are bolt cropped easily. Get pragmassis or almax
Hide a GPS tracker on the bike.
You skip watched didn't you 😉 😂... I mention that. ☺
@@RoadcraftNottingham ahhh maybe sorry
i think the best anti thieft method is holding a gun next to your bike . shoot and win the lawsuit with global social media supporting ur case.
How to stop thieves, don’t buy a Harley, thieves love Harleys’
I have 1 of the best deterrents but I can't say it. However - It's very simple & actually don't cost a thing but time. Here's the scenario. A thief is trying to ride away with your bike - it'll be very hard. A thief is trying to roll away with your bike, it'll be very hard. A thief is trying to grab your motor cycle and roll it into a van, it'll be very hard. All it'll cost you is time. An alarm that keeps blaring will make them decide to drop it and just leave it. My remedy is so simple that yeah if they want your bike, it'll be very hard and very inconvenient for them even if your bike is nice & shinny. I know I'll get a lot of people going oh I could do that & laugh at how simple it it but also say - I don't have time for that but yeah, neither will the thief. The chain & lock people would be pissed off to know people started doing it. The other security measures would definitely help also.
Thanks for the most useless comment on the entire internet.
dude has never heard of an angle grinder
Dude hasn't watched this upload all the way through...
I think the most important point you touched on was the idea of putting the lowlives off of an attempt on your bike in the first place. A premeditated and planned theft will succeed 99% of the time, but make it as unattractive and griefy as possible and they’ll pick another bike that’s easier... thieves are lazy...
So I use two Oxford XL chains, one round the front wheel and forks, the other round the back wheel and through the frame, each attached to a ground anchor, and bike is covered - I think covering a bike has a huge positive effect - if they can’t see it, they will pick one that stands out over it... again thieves are lazy, that’s why they are thieves!
Front chain attached to disc/padlock also.
It’s hassle when I go out, but if it’s annoying for me, it must be hassle for lowlives as well!
I'd add to this and say that I use my old knackered cover over the top of a much nicer one, extra layer of water resistance but also its looks shite! Nobody is going to expect anything decent being under there
Locking the cover on is an easy extra deterrent too and if your chain isn't positioned to secure your cover you can use a bicycle style cable lock extension to secure the cover.
Chain suggestions
For home use
Make sure the chain is 16mm+
Almax
Pragmasis
Oxford beast
Squire
ABUS
Milenco
And for taking out with you make sure the chain is 12mm+
ABUS Granit Extreme X-plus 59
Milenco Coleraine
ABUS Granit 58 loop lock-chain
ABUS Platinum chain 34
recommended.
I bought an Asgard shed, which yes are rather expensive but are well worth it. I then bought 2 Abus Granit London U shackles which I put 1 on each wheel and then I bought a kryptonite New York 13 mm chain with a Squire stronghold padlock and to top it off I bought an Oxford 10mm chain with Master lock Pro series Bouron shackle. Oh yes 😆 I also bought an alarm for the shed and one for the bike, fitted CCTV and have a 10 stone Saint Bernard who sleep right next to the door and lets you know the moment anybody goes near the side gate. The joys of OCD.
I had my scooter eyed up and touched out the back of my house.
Only knew this, as I have a blink camera on my washing line pole facing the bike lol
if I didn't have that my scooter would probably have been stolen.
After seeing the footage I posted to the towns Facebook group and contacted the police and they identified the person in the footage.
I have since put a big fence up now.
Amazon Blink cameras are amazing :)
Best alarm system; gravel and gooses near your bike shed :)
@@alexmorgan3435 brush off tyres? Lol
I've always carried a padlock instead of a disc lock, for my 'convenient to carry' deterrent. Basically because you can get a padlock with a hexagonal shackle, so you'd have to cut it twice to get it off. Twice the time, twice the hassle. Can also easily be used with a chain and/or put through the disc or sprocket...
I don’t lock mine and leave the keys in the ignition, I live in a Avenue with no way through, I sleep above the garage and my ex military Alsatian sleeps next to my bike, savage will alert me if some one enters the top of the Avenue 100 yards away with 4 barks , if they come closer the bark will become more frequent, if they come closer it turn to snarling and ramming the door to get to them, I can open my door remotely from my bed, after I have identified who it is from my cctv.👊👍
You’ve got to love an intelligent security system. Nice one.
I would bring a bag of raw meat and toss it to your dog then ride away on your bike 5 seconds later.
Keep it out of sight, cover on the bike, locked with chain to a solid object and disc lock. Got tracking as well which is cool but I like to think I’m keeping it semi safe... like you said, if they really want it- they will find a way of stealing it.
I agree about the cover, being locked with a chain to a solid object and the disc lock, however I would rather have it somewhere were there are lots of people about. Keeping it out of sight only means that a thief will be able to get to work stealing your bike pretty much undisturbed.
@@Seagull-Matthames out of sight like not out in the sunshine and in clear view. a main road but you park it behind a car, on a busy high street but keeping it covered, or in a car park with cctv rather than an alley way behind Morrison’s.
If its inconvenient for you then it will be more inconvenient for the thief dont just put one lock on it use a few with different brands even if it takes you 10mins getting it all off if someones going to steal your stuff then make them work very hard for it either they will give up half way or somebody's going to notice cutting through locks and chains makes alot of sound specially multiple locks added alarms as well.
Thanks for sharing these tips. I used to rely on blocking the bike in with the car (cage) but in a spate of thefts at the time the vermin were cutting brake cables and moving cars to remove people's pride joy and Transport. Frustrates me that we have to do so much but as said, let's not make it easy for the scumbags
Hi Shane…it really makes you think that a Star Chamber might be the only deterrent….very low re offending….seriously though it’s such an awful thing….
The only disc lock I've not seen London bike thieves get past is the Xena XX series. They're alarmed disc locks and can be fitted either between the fork and brake calliper meaning they cannot get at the disc to cut it (I've seen Xena's removed in this way) or I put mine on the rear disc between the calliper and swingarm. Defo recommend giving them a look although mines the slightly older model without bluetooth but that hasn't been an issue.