Well done Joe. I'm sure you'll get there. A good video that anyone can learn from. Ashley Neal is a good communicator, and brings useful insights to keeping safe on the road. 👏🏻 much applause to you both.
Some of these faults might have been a little bit of nerves and some mild panic when he stalled but considering he hasn't had a lesson in 8 years I'm genuinely impressed. There are people with a licence who don't drive as well as this.
@@TheScaper28 Definitely! I got a new (to me) car this spring and I'm still learning to control it 100%. The first few weeks were really annoying because I had to relearn all the muscle memory for start/stop and shifting. Also stalled it a few times, seems the new car is weaker near idle than the old one despite having double the horsepower but I guess that's because the new car is turbocharged where the old one was naturally aspirated.
He's doesn't use a foot operated clutch or throttle in his ape van either, it's basically a converted vespa with a clutch on the left handle bar and the throttle on the right
The faffing with the handbrake around 4:00 is exactly why I hate those electronic ones. Give me a stick connected to the brake, I'm the driver, I decide when to release and apply the damned thing.
Haha its a fair point but my grandad used to say that about electric starters (flat batteries etc) he preferred a starting handle. Tongue firmly in cheek.
@@Grahamvfr We're at a point now where it's cheaper and easier to put a motor on the brake mechanism and wire it into the car's data network than it is to fabricate a mechanically robust brake lever and the cable run to connect it to the brake. Manufacturer's convenience coming ahead of simplicity and safety. Drivers should not need to be thinking "what's the car doing now?" instead of focussing on the world beyond the car, particularly at the times you'd be releasing the parking brake!
@@RoamingAdhocrat So when the learner driver gets in an old car, put the handbrake on whilst on a hill, but it doesn't hold because its inefficient.. He's probably going to say " what's the car doing now" I remember my grandad complaining his new car mk1 cortina 1965,had no starting handle, so what would he do if the battery was flat, its just progress, I love car involvement (keen trackday fan cars and bikes), but we have look to improve what we have, and when you've lived with epb for a while, they are very convenient. IMO. 😊
Bloody good effort for someone who hasn't driven a car in 8 years - willing to bet he is at a better standard that a lot of "qualified drivers" Best of luck joe
I was always a fan of 'take a mock test a few years later, see what you picked up, see what you need to drop'. I am now more determined than ever before.. wonder if we have our own Ashley, here in the Eastern part of Europe. Was a good video to point out how a lesson is to be had!
I thought he did very well considering he hasn't driven a car for 8 years . There's those couple things that could be ironed out . I have to say though that getting in a car you are unfamiliar with can be difficult for a short time while you get used to the controls and dimensions . I've been driving for around 20 years and the last 3 years of that have been in an electric Renault Zoe which is automatic . Yesterday due to an emergency situation I had to drive a friend's car instead. I stalled it 3 times . I was also very cautious parking as unfamiliar with the length of the car an Audi A4 estate . So what I'm saying it that matey doing the mock test probably wouldn't have stalled if had had some lessons in that car and was used to it , eliminating those 2 majors for rolling backwards . And the getting to close to parked cars again boils down to being unfamiliar with the vehicle dimensions . I agree that once you have commited to an incorrect lane like at the one way street it is safer to continue in the direction of that lane. Good luck in practising and passing your test 👊
Hm, I don't think stalling is a good excuse for rolling backwards. You should always sit on the brake when you don't to move intentionally. Even in an automatic you have to sit on the brake, even more so than in a manual because it just rolls forward in Drive, so I don't really know where he picked up that habit. Maybe he had lessons in a Diesel back then that are way more forgiving and generate way more torque with the clutch, so he wasn't really used to how much you have to lift the clutch to actually get the same results. I'm just assuming Ashley is driving a petrol from the video...if not, that would be very weird.
@@Asto508 stalling is fine . It happens . Rolling back is what he needs to address . But it was his first time in that car and I share the drivers disliking of not having a proper handbrake . Think Ashley's car is diesel as you can hear it in some parts of the video. But like I said mate , first drive in 8 years could have been a lot worse to be fair . Give him 3 hours in that car and he will be acquainted . I stalled my mates diesel 3 times yesterday . I also remember pulling away on just clutch but it didn't work that well yesterday . In fact I asked my friend why it stalled so easily and he said I need 1500 rpm . I normally use the sound of the engine but my friend was playing music on quite loud so that made it difficult . It's me that drives auto usually. That guy was driving manual . I never roll backwards as the brakes hold it for a a few seconds after releasing the pedal . Forwards though yes I have to keep my foot on the brake in the Zoe
Thanks for being on camera Joe! It's clear you have some experience on the roads. I'm sure you'll sort those little issues out and smash your test before long (maybe even before the end of the year, backlog permitting.....).
Right away, that handbrake rigmarole would freak me out. I learnt to drive 18 years ago, and my car is still the first one I bought after passing. Car technology has moved on without me. Make me change into something else right before a mock test and I'd be lost before setting off.
My previous car was a 2010....switched to a 2019 car. A lot more tech. Crossing the threshold. More like a computer with wheels than a car with a computer. Can easily see how the next step or two is having full auto drive. My current car does have a manual handbrake lever but the car is auto + fully automatic hill hold built in. The only time I need to apply the handbrake is when parking...and even then the gearbox is in P to prevent the car moving.
The only thing I noticed was a high pitched noise in the background, was that feedback from the camera or something? Really interesting video all the same
I think Ashley had a window open and it was either the pitch of the wind around the windows or the noise of the car passing objects like fences and walls. I didn't really notice it that much though
@@ashley_neal sometimes circuits that convert 12V from a car to other voltages ( used in many gadgets) cause this interference, it finds its way into audio and radio equipment (another example is people install a hardwired dashcam and find they hear this noise on the FM car radio or lose reception on DAB channels). Its a shame you live so far away as otherwise I'd offer to help you sort it out - my day job is an electronics engineer and watching your videos helped me pass my test a couple of years ago and also gain a promotion and a bonus at work (I didn't drive for much of my life as I lived in or near London, but ended up moving to Suffolk and working in a semi rural area so I needed a car to get around..)
This content is so helpful! I just had my first ever lesson 2 days ago and I'd been preparing myself by watching Erin's videos. I was honestly terrified about steering but turns out I just knew how to take corners which really surprised me. Must be the years of road cycling paying off :) Thanks to you Ashley & your videos I decided I was going to push past the fear I always associated with driving and now it turns out I really enjoy it, can't wait for my next lesson! :)
Tests are awkward these days, especially if you're doing it in a car with lots of driver assistance systems. The first serious fault probably wouldn't have happened with a car that has auto-hold. The electronic handbrake looked like it was confusing him too. This kind of thing will only get more prevalent with electric cars, seeing as they do almost everything for you. But I guess most of driving is about driver skill and situation awareness. Ideally you want to learn to drive in a car with no fancy systems, but in future nobody will even learn to drive manual anyway.
To be fair, it would have been a good idea for him to look at all the controls and ask questions about the electronics handbrake before moving off. Similar to the checks/adjustments you would do with a seat and mirrors after getting into a car you haven't driven before. Having said all that though, I appreciate that a manual handbrake would typically be assumed.
I'm confused by that one way street because the sign says it's one way but the road markings for joining that road say you can turn either left or right. 🙈 Obviously the sign is what's important but confusing still.
His excuse for " I never venture down this area " when he made the mistake on the one way street, cut's no ice with me. He was asked where to go, and given clear instructions. That said he SOULD BE OBSERVING the road markings and understand what's required to complete the task. If he'd made the mistake and then said sorry instructor i cannot go right from this lane I've missed my turning i can go straight on only here, would have been fine. Showing he understood the mistake and why. but he didn't. I would not pass him either. He needs at least 15 lessons if not more to clear up a lot of unsafe habits. To close to the cars on the left, mirrors, and signals, and positioning but to name a few thing's. But credit for trying. Keep at it have some lessons, build confidence and most importantly LISTEN to what is being said.
As someone who had riden motorcycles for 13 years before I took my car test, stalling the car was one of the faults I used to make as withba bike you ride the clutch more than a car the other was following a straighter line around a rounabout. I reckon 5 or 6 lessons Joe would be fully aware of the car and the odd quirks ( e handbrake) and allow him to get used to the car then he would smash the test.
I did the opposite. Been driving my car for 10 years and only this year went and done my motorcycle test. I feel like I transferred to the bike quite well. I had a small bit of experience on a small bike in my younger years and little bit of riding on private property and private roads.
Thanks Joe for allowing this to be filmed. I failed my first driving test for poor positioning on a right turn from a one way street - common mistake - but now you’ll be prepared for it. Good Luck for your test xx
Bit late to the party.. I am an ex driving examiner and I just wanted to point out your calm manner with the candidate that they would receive on test. Some things were hard to judge on video such as distance for parked cars and rolling back etc. But the main difference from what an examiner would do would have been the serious fault for being in the wrong lane to turn right. On test, providing it was safe and no risk etc, I would have allowed him to turn right in the wrong lane, and only at that point would it be a serious fault. I appreciate you can't allow him to do it as an instructor, but you could have waited until he was about to do it. I often found that even at the last moment the candidate realised what they were doing and then stopped. If you intervene too early they don't have the chance to realise and that is an unfair fail. Essentially though I realise the difference between a test and a mock, great job all around.
Well done Joe, one for letting Ashley film your mock test, and second on how well you did after not driving a proper car for a long time. Good luck with your theory test next month.
@@joeheyes318 I would wish you luck, Joe, but with driving like that you won’t need it. As a cyclist I would be delighted if all drivers were as considerate and skilful as you.
Failed my test after rolling back at lights... been 8 years since I took my test, at 34 - it's a late start, but I'm enjoying driving now... and it's so much easier. This fella has more balls than me to film his first lesson after 8 years lol. Watching these videos helps a lot, too!
I rolled back on my driving test… in a bus… leaving a bus stop… because I'd forgotten to put the transmission from Neutral to Drive. Was staggered and actually felt a little cheated when I passed.
This reminds me of one of the things my driving instructor told me during one of our early lessons, on approaching a roundabout in a 60 km/h speed zone. He said I knew what to do - position the car, check if it's clear, select the right gear, indicate - I just didn't quite have the order figured out. One of the things that was a big help to me, was that he demonstrated just how slow you could go in 4th on engine braking without the engine complaining about it. In other words, if I just put it in 3rd gear ahead of time on the approach, I didn't need to bother about changing gears for quite some time, leaving me ample time to observe and sort things out.
Great vid & Joe's a top chap for doing this. Those electronic handbrakes are a complete pain, my wife's car has one and it totally spoils an otherwise great vehicle, answers a question nobody ever asked.
Could you explain the issue with the indication at 23:50? Is it the fact that he's kept it on despite not moving off straight away, or is there something I've missed? How should one act in a situation where you are waiting for a gap, particularly if the traffic is high and you effectively need to 'ask' for a gap? Thanks in advance if anyone can make this a bit clearer.
A signal sat at the side of the road says to the cars that are passing that you intend to move out, but you don't intend to move out until they are passed. Wait till there is a gap that you intend to take and signal your intentions to take that gap. This technique may change if you are parked and are trying to emerge in to a queue which is moving very slowly.
always makes me nervous watching other people behind tailgaiting.... especially a learner! even now i have passed i always give learners plenty of space as i remember being a learner too and how it always shook me up when other drivers where getting to close, although the cam probably gives more of a closer look than it actually is it still makes me nervous. that was a great drive from Joe and i wish him well for his theory and practical tests.
I like being the "force field" that keeps all the tailgaters away from learners when I happen to be behind them. I keep the same pace as them of course, just more distance. It's a good idea anyway as I have seen learner drivers (I'm not saying most if any do this) slam on their brakes for turns. We've all been there when we were learning to drive, so it doesn't hurt to show a little respect to new drivers.
omg yes, a new series! Really enjoy the longer content tbh, miss erins lessons and always wanted to see you do Mock tests. Haven’t watched yet bc busy but will do!
A great example of why auto/electronic handbrakes, stop/start, hill hold etc should not be on cars people learn to drive in. One, they are an intrusive pain in the ****** even for experienced drivers until you adapt to whatever your car happens to have (and even then some are still intrusive!). Two, the learners will pass their test and they go and buy an older/smaller car with little to no tech and really struggle to drive it. I realise the world moves on and I never learnt without synchromesh, but there needs to be a minimum set of manual controls that need to be mastered to get a licence.
Not sure how he managed it but my partner's stepdad has an electric handbrake and his car rolled in the drive when he wasn't inside the car and it hit the brick shed at the end of the drive. Personally I'd rather be able to feel how much tension is on the handbrake cable then rely on an electric servo or motor pulling the brake cable
Nice, I used to live in this area, Bootle, I'm going to take the test May 15th, I drive over 24 years, been in England for 2 years, it will be a great help to have this mock test. Cheers
Brilliant vid ash would love to see more. Would also like to know how Erin is getting on with her lessons, maybe a video where you call Erin and discuss driving?
Very interesting, thanks for uploading! I wonder what percentage of people would fail if they had to take that route on their test (95%+?); that one way street is a recipe for super high failure rates unless you've been down it beforehand, especially given the cars pretty much parked on the right hand exit. Good job he encountered it on his mock, just in case.
Eight years of not driving cars and using an electronic hand brake system. It was bound to be rocky but well done for taking the initiative to take a mock test to see where he needs to be to pass. Ps He doesn't use his wing mirrors hardly especially when passing pedestrians getting into car, walking in the road and passing junctions.
Ashley, could you explain more about Driver Fault 5 please? I don't understand how signalling can be a fault, and I don't understand how a car stopping because of that signal can turn that into a serious fault. What is the danger in this?
Back in 81 when I was learning I had the same issue with stalling. I spent one entire lesson practicing pulling away first on the flat in 2nd gear, once mastered pulling away on the flat in 3rd gear, then progressing on to an uphill slope in second, then third. Never had a problem after that. I doubt the uphill start practice would have been possible with an electric handbrake though.
I enjoy it as well, and I've been driving since 1993, laws and ways to do things change over the years so always something to learn from this young chap 😊
At 14:30 the fault was not using the mirror before slowing for the red light. But, he was always going to stop, looking in the mirror wouldn't have changed that. So, although I agree he needs to look, I'd argue that he could look as he begins to brake, rather than before braking as looking first would only delay the braking action.
- Ashley Can You Explain The Drivers Fault Where Parked Up On The Left For The First Time (24:23) Because I Thought You signal Just Before You Set off In Which I Thought He Did. Thank You For Your Time, God Bless.
I've never liked e handbrakes. Look at how much concentration he is having to put into working out if its on or not. Its distracting him from the road. OK you might gain trust in it with time but to me it's trying to solve a problem that want there. With a lever and a cable you can feel its on without taking your eyes off the road. I've known people who have gone into the shops, come out and its rolled into a bollard on cars where its supposed to be automatic and they've got out the habit of actually looking if its engaged.
Well done Joe. It takes a lot to put yourself out there like that, with everything on show for everyone to see. Good luck with your theory test, and when it comes, your practical test.
@@jcs_190 I mean, he could be a homosexual. It is not our business, though. It is impossible to tell unless he says so. He can open up if he wanted to. Having a rainbow on you does not mean you are gay - outside and inside the community. Rainbows are cute.
Hiii, I'm going to just say... I'm old school even though I'm just 30 years old... I cannot drive an automatic, I would very much struggle and I don't think I would be able to deal with this vehicle. Not looking forward to say 20 years down the line when all cars are all fandangled and have major features like this. I think I would have to give up driving! I love having my stick and old school handbrake! And hate the thought of the top start feature too!! Old habits will stay with me forever lol
U will get used to it, might not be as “fun” but u will get used to it. Also I’m pretty sure most cars u can disable start stop, at least on mine you can
Watching dashcam footage of someone driving in a 20 zone is like watching someone drive in slow motion. 😱😱 Feels like it takes forever to get anywhere. Great video though, mad respect for him to let you post his driving for the Internet to see. 👊
That Iveco around the 42/43:00 area is a disgrace being that close. The common moron that can't grasp that they wouldn't get much further, if at all by Joe sitting on the next car's bumper. He and Ashley dealt with it really well. Calmer than me. I can't help but rant about tail-gaters and then just knock things down a few mph under the limit to annoy them, although it somewhat reduces the risk, which is one positive of my poor reaction. I've got a little baby coming this summer though and the thought of them being on the backseat and hit because of someone riding the bumper really winds me up. I will never break check but I will never be forced to go faster. Kudos to Joe and Ashley.
Mock tests: drive down narrow roads, multiple complex junctions and reverse around a corner on a hill Test: sit in traffic for 30 minutes then reverse in a straight line to bay park
@@TheVanderfulLife haha for me it was different 😅 my actual test was on voting day, it was hailing and I had city and rural roads (Bristol) with the parallel park manoeuvre. I don't miss it 🤣 I just meant I made such stupid mistakes in the mock tests haha but better to do it then rather than on test day!
@@welshone92 I got progressively worse in my tests XD took it 3 times. First time 0 minors 2 majors, second time 14 minors 1 major (i was very unwell doing this one) and third time 6 minors big oof there XD BUT I DID IT and now SOMEHOW i am road legal. Much rather ride a motorbike than drive a car.
Question for my own knowledge about an electric handbrake if I may. At 6:15 Joe puts the car into neutral and then applies the handbrake but this is not flagged as a fault. Is this OK in this instance? Is the car secured with the footbrake?
Also, out of curiosity, do you HAVE to use the handbrake at every traffic light? I don't use mine until I park lol am I lazy or is it just habit? I'm just confused lol! I mean maybe I'd use it if say I was waiting at a train crossing or at traffic jam but I don't do it just for traffic lights. That said, I'd definitely use it for hill starts
You don’t need to use it all, I didn’t use it once on my test even on hill starts since I used my own car I had the clutch balance perfect, and the examiner passed me, just be sure to stay away from parked cars because they seem to have a serious niggle with not being in a good position in the road, going off the one I had and the one my friend had
@@drakevevo3710 that's good... I thought I was going crazy haha! Tbf.. I passed my test so long ago now I think I'm stuck in my old ways. Doesn't sound good really lol
May I ask, at around 23:50, Joe is faulted for sitting with his indicator on, why is this a fault? Is it because it can slow the flow of traffic behind? I won't lie, when I'm doing my deliveries, I always indicate right to let people know what my intentions are, rather than a wish to let me out. Most people just pull out in front of you, without a signal, which is obviously a serious fault but as someone already on the road, I'd rather someone be signaling what their intentions are. It's then up to me to carry on or let them out through steady breaking. I slightly get it but it seems like such a harsh fault when in every day driving, most people would appreciate knowing Joe is intending to pull back out onto the road when clear.
Well done Joe, you performed an excellent mock test considering the length of time since your last lesson....and you must have been nervous/star struck 😜 with Ash in the car. Great video as always, and loved the format.
"the handbrake releases when you lift the clutch up" - I was taught handbrake then neutral but after 40 years of driving it's now handbrake neutral handbrake! handbrake!! handbrake!!!
As in the handbrake releases when you hit the bite point and you're in gear. if you lift the clutch in neutral the engine goes off, would be no good if the handbrake went off too lol.
@@Bisonrulz16 Engine turns off when clutch hits the bite point and display says "start engine manually". If I stop it on an upwards hill it turns the engine off but then turns it on again if I manually engage the handbrake. Modern cars don't want you to be in control.
@@andyalder7910 dunno what to tell you mate, sounds as if you've got a faulty handbrake. My car displays none of that weird behaviour. Engine only goes off in neutral with parking or hold brake applied. On a hill engine stays on to ensure power for hill start. Only displays "turn engine on manually" if stopped in neutral with handbrake on for too long.
Just before Joe’s first serious fault, he turned right due to the lane instead of continuing straight on. If I made a navigational issue in my real test, is this a fault?
He did ask whether he could go straight on and when Ashley said he'd leave it up to him to decide, he took the safe route. I am not even sure going straight on was allowed here but it looked like it was, albeit very risky with all those cars nipping up on the left.
Well done joe, thanks for letting us share the experience with you :). It’s been so long since I’ve seen one of these and I think he did a great job. I love these videos cause there’s so many different learning points all packed into one video. I kept looking at the crossroads remembering the video you did on those a couple of weeks ago. The one thing I always pick up on when at temporary traffic lights is that people position there cars on the oncoming lane long before there even close to the traffic lights, surely you should only pull out into that lane once you know you can get through or maybe I’ve been doing it wrong 😅. Once again though great video and great analysis Ashley, top man.
Passed my driving test after only 18 hours of lessons! I just want to say a massive thanks to your videos, they helped so much! I watched many youtubers but Ashley Neal especially! Yeah he seems like a bit of a twat, but it's for all the good reasons! Love you man! Keep up the work
That Sabb estate was a bit out to far at 13 33. I would have slowed down a tiny bit just to anticipate him pulling out on Joe. its the small little details i pick up on!!
Overall it was a fair result, only thing I have an issue with was Driver Fault 2. He was close to the cars but at the same time Hawthorne road heading from junction of Marsh Lane to junction of Merton Road is not wide enough to accomodate 2 lanes of passing traffic and a door's width from the parked cars. When you gave him the fault there was another car coming in the centre of the opposite lane so he maybe had a few inches to play with. Especially considering this is moments after a narrowing in the road. If this is a fault I'd say this is far more of an appropriate speed type of fault than a car positioning fault since there is far more scope for him to control the speed than the position there. However, if this fault was given for the 20 seconds prior when there were no oncoming vehicles yet the car was still positoned centre of the lane then fair enough, at that point you could easily have given a fair bit of space to accomodate a door's width. I'd just recommend moving the timestamp back a few seconds so that people going by timestamps don't get confused
I don't think Joe did a bad job at all, considering the gap between lesson and the test. Nice one. Few lessons to polish a few bits and a new license. 👍
I couldn't not watch. I kept thinking, "I'll stop it now and catch up when I can" but I was engrossed. Poor Joe - less than ten minutes in and he sees a van smashed up - that would have shot his concentration for a few minutes.
Hi Ashley, This is the first mock test video I've watched of yours. Is there a reason that you are fault marking instead of weighing and assessing the faults? Driving tests are not fault marked, ie the move off Joe did at the start. You gave him a driver fault for not checking the blind spot immediately before moving off, despite Joe doing it twice. This was only a small deviation from the defined outcome. There was no one around the vehicle at that time and would be unlikely someone would jump Infront of the car in that time. Examiners should be weighing the faults and making an assessment on the situation. The DVSA often advise ADI's to use the same wording as the examiners, that way, pupils don't get confused when on test. The wordings can be found in the DT1. 👍
A small deviation from the defined outcome but a massive increase in risk. Faults aren’t marked on just when they cause problems. Potential risk is also assessed. Joe passed his test first time at the end of August 👍🏼
That is correct. The blind spot check needs to be the last thing and very soon before moving. I don't remember the scenario in the video but there are certain times when it wouldn't be a fault. Long straight road with recent check and nothing around for example. If its lots of drive ways and side roads then absolutely needed
Great video Ashley, really enjoy these types of video as i have my test coming up at the end of June! Also where did you get the colourful mask from as I'm sure there will be plenty of people wanting to know? Thanks for sharing! :)
That crossing wasn't marked well at all, so Joe was correct to ask if he could go straight on when he was sat behind the bin wagon. In this instance Ashley could have confirmed it rather than have Joe risk sideswiping something on the left.
@@eng9725 I was talking to an ex driving instructor some years ago that the shorter the test, the more chance the candidate had failed and it was pointless carrying the test on, so they would finish them early I dont know if that's the case nowadays....?
@@Keithbarber at the moment this is especially the case. If you make a major fault, the examiner will reroute the test back to the centre to minimise extra time in the car (covid)
Ashley what would you (or any examiner) do in a situation at 15:15 if the driver turned down the road that is marked no left turn except cycles? I presume you would have to stop the pupil making the mistake resulting in a fail?
There is a difference between me conducting a mock test and an examiner conducting a real test. On a real test is the only time a provisional license holder is allowed to drive unaided. And examiner may let a serious fault like that go as long as there is no danger, whereas myself being an instructor in charge of that lesson should stop that from happening. The same could be said of Joe's second serious fault on the one-way street. I hope that makes sense?
What is that switch he keeps toggling that is by the gear shift lever? Note: It may be a European thing, but my car doesnt even have a hand brake. We always kept our foot on the brake and put it in neutral if it was a manual transmission. I wonder if the cars like yours sold in the USA have that electronic handbrake...
It's the ebrake/handbrake/however you want to call it. In the UK they have a weird traffic law. If you know you'll be stopped for longer than a few seconds, you must apply the handbrake. Has to do with the brake lights apparently causing too much glare. You mentioned your car doesn't have a hand brake? What car would that be? How do you even park your car on a hill without handbrake for example?
@@BelgianCat I have a Toyota Rav4. It has a parking brake, but no lever for it. The parking brake is electronic and automatically comes on when you shift into Park on the transmission. It does have a function called HOLD that applies the brake and holds them on, when you apply the accelerator, it is automatically released. It works with the push of a button.
With my car the auto stop/start is only enabled if the battery has reached a certain level of charge. If the battery charge is low, it gets turned off. From what I can tell, the charge level for enabling stop/start is far above the minimum level needed to start the engine from cold.
Good video, and it's great to see you doing a mock test. I already follow a couple of other channels who do them regularly and they're very interesting Interesting format to discuss the fault after it happens as the watcher can test to see if they noticed it. It does cause a fair bit of rewinding if you don't though!
I know it's academic, but there were a few examples of hesitancy there -- I failed my first test for repeated hesitancy examples. On one occasion the examiner said that I should have pushed my way into a busy road rather than wait for a proper gap. Still disagree with that for a test but there you go -- maybe things have changed in the last 20 years.
I'm curious... If you'd noticed that you were in the wrong lane to turn right, would it have been a serious fault if you'd continued straight instead without the intent of turning? Or is it a serious fault because you didn't do what the instructor said to?
I wouldn't normally sit through a 50 minute upload but, for once, decided to make the effort. One of my better decisions this week. Despite having 30+ years driving experience I'm beginning to think that I might've developed one or two bad habits...... Only way to find out is for you to consider an assessment; before, during, or after experiencing the pleasure (or pain) of driving my old 🇬🇧 classic. I am definitely up for the challenge. You can even choose what vehicle I use even if it means hiring one. Ford Transit, or similar, is something I haven't driven for a very long time. Just a thought and why make things easy for me? No pressure 😁
I was going to upload a fifty minute video... 😅 Nah, I was not. There is always room to grow even after decades of driving. Sometimes bad habits seep in. I am guilty. I leaped off a moving vehicle to another moving vehicle, then threw the guy out. 😂
Looks like he has let the trailer cut in too much and hit the railings and popped the box off the trailer. To be fair the sides and top on those trailers are basically there to shelter the cargo from the elements. The lightweight frame and sheet metal covering has basically no chance of resisting the forces of an impact with the momentum of that truck behind them even at low speeds. It is the flatbed underneath that is actually solid managing to bend that significantly would be impressive but as you can see that looks pretty much fine probably missing some paint at worst.
Shout out to Joe for letting the internet watch this!
He did very well all considering. Having effectively a local celeb in the car AND cameras recording for a youtube video is a lot of extra pressure.
Happy to be filmed.......filmed with 70% of face obscured 😃😂😃😂😃😂😃😂😃😂😃
Well done Joe. I'm sure you'll get there. A good video that anyone can learn from. Ashley Neal is a good communicator, and brings useful insights to keeping safe on the road. 👏🏻 much applause to you both.
Aye Good lad. Seems like a steady character. I’d get in a car with him driving.
Good luck with the test and the fishing.
@@jimmycburfield5997 indeed. Seems far more conscientious than most drivers
Some of these faults might have been a little bit of nerves and some mild panic when he stalled but considering he hasn't had a lesson in 8 years I'm genuinely impressed. There are people with a licence who don't drive as well as this.
Yeah new car too, knowing the car is a massive factor for a novice and even experienced driver.
@@TheScaper28 Definitely!
I got a new (to me) car this spring and I'm still learning to control it 100%.
The first few weeks were really annoying because I had to relearn all the muscle memory for start/stop and shifting.
Also stalled it a few times, seems the new car is weaker near idle than the old one despite having double the horsepower
but I guess that's because the new car is turbocharged where the old one was naturally aspirated.
He's doesn't use a foot operated clutch or throttle in his ape van either, it's basically a converted vespa with a clutch on the left handle bar and the throttle on the right
The faffing with the handbrake around 4:00 is exactly why I hate those electronic ones. Give me a stick connected to the brake, I'm the driver, I decide when to release and apply the damned thing.
Haha its a fair point but my grandad used to say that about electric starters (flat batteries etc) he preferred a starting handle.
Tongue firmly in cheek.
@@Grahamvfr We're at a point now where it's cheaper and easier to put a motor on the brake mechanism and wire it into the car's data network than it is to fabricate a mechanically robust brake lever and the cable run to connect it to the brake. Manufacturer's convenience coming ahead of simplicity and safety. Drivers should not need to be thinking "what's the car doing now?" instead of focussing on the world beyond the car, particularly at the times you'd be releasing the parking brake!
@@RoamingAdhocrat So when the learner driver gets in an old car, put the handbrake on whilst on a hill, but it doesn't hold because its inefficient.. He's probably going to say " what's the car doing now"
I remember my grandad complaining his new car mk1 cortina 1965,had no starting handle, so what would he do if the battery was flat, its just progress, I love car involvement (keen trackday fan cars and bikes), but we have look to improve what we have, and when you've lived with epb for a while, they are very convenient. IMO. 😊
Bloody good effort for someone who hasn't driven a car in 8 years - willing to bet he is at a better standard that a lot of "qualified drivers"
Best of luck joe
Mad respect to Joe for participating in this. It will no doubt help many other learners (as well as those who have passed their test).
I was always a fan of 'take a mock test a few years later, see what you picked up, see what you need to drop'. I am now more determined than ever before.. wonder if we have our own Ashley, here in the Eastern part of Europe.
Was a good video to point out how a lesson is to be had!
Props to joe for doing that. To be honest i think he done pretty well considering the 8 year gap and a new car.
"Ooh, maybe not!" looking at the somehow still standing on its wheels lorry. 😂 😂 😂
I thought he did very well considering he hasn't driven a car for 8 years . There's those couple things that could be ironed out . I have to say though that getting in a car you are unfamiliar with can be difficult for a short time while you get used to the controls and dimensions .
I've been driving for around 20 years and the last 3 years of that have been in an electric Renault Zoe which is automatic . Yesterday due to an emergency situation I had to drive a friend's car instead. I stalled it 3 times . I was also very cautious parking as unfamiliar with the length of the car an Audi A4 estate .
So what I'm saying it that matey doing the mock test probably wouldn't have stalled if had had some lessons in that car and was used to it , eliminating those 2 majors for rolling backwards . And the getting to close to parked cars again boils down to being unfamiliar with the vehicle dimensions .
I agree that once you have commited to an incorrect lane like at the one way street it is safer to continue in the direction of that lane.
Good luck in practising and passing your test 👊
Hm, I don't think stalling is a good excuse for rolling backwards. You should always sit on the brake when you don't to move intentionally. Even in an automatic you have to sit on the brake, even more so than in a manual because it just rolls forward in Drive, so I don't really know where he picked up that habit.
Maybe he had lessons in a Diesel back then that are way more forgiving and generate way more torque with the clutch, so he wasn't really used to how much you have to lift the clutch to actually get the same results.
I'm just assuming Ashley is driving a petrol from the video...if not, that would be very weird.
@@Asto508 stalling is fine . It happens . Rolling back is what he needs to address . But it was his first time in that car and I share the drivers disliking of not having a proper handbrake . Think Ashley's car is diesel as you can hear it in some parts of the video. But like I said mate , first drive in 8 years could have been a lot worse to be fair . Give him 3 hours in that car and he will be acquainted . I stalled my mates diesel 3 times yesterday . I also remember pulling away on just clutch but it didn't work that well yesterday . In fact I asked my friend why it stalled so easily and he said I need 1500 rpm . I normally use the sound of the engine but my friend was playing music on quite loud so that made it difficult .
It's me that drives auto usually. That guy was driving manual . I never roll backwards as the brakes hold it for a a few seconds after releasing the pedal . Forwards though yes I have to keep my foot on the brake in the Zoe
Thanks for being on camera Joe! It's clear you have some experience on the roads. I'm sure you'll sort those little issues out and smash your test before long (maybe even before the end of the year, backlog permitting.....).
Right away, that handbrake rigmarole would freak me out.
I learnt to drive 18 years ago, and my car is still the first one I bought after passing. Car technology has moved on without me.
Make me change into something else right before a mock test and I'd be lost before setting off.
They take a few days to get used to. I found that out recently after having a mechanical handbrake for the last 37 years.
My previous car was a 2010....switched to a 2019 car.
A lot more tech. Crossing the threshold. More like a computer with wheels than a car with a computer. Can easily see how the next step or two is having full auto drive.
My current car does have a manual handbrake lever but the car is auto + fully automatic hill hold built in. The only time I need to apply the handbrake is when parking...and even then the gearbox is in P to prevent the car moving.
Perhaps I’m just stubborn, but I can’t stand those automatic handbrakes, I sometimes have to drive with one for work and I just can’t get used to it
automatic handbrakes work really well with dsg and auto boxes but they are duffers with a clutch
The only thing I noticed was a high pitched noise in the background, was that feedback from the camera or something? Really interesting video all the same
Not sure why Amy, sorry!
I think Ashley had a window open and it was either the pitch of the wind around the windows or the noise of the car passing objects like fences and walls. I didn't really notice it that much though
I've noticed the high freq noise as well. Just for giggles, you can check the raw footage for a steady level at around 14-16khz.
@@ashley_neal sometimes circuits that convert 12V from a car to other voltages ( used in many gadgets) cause this interference, it finds its way into audio and radio equipment (another example is people install a hardwired dashcam and find they hear this noise on the FM car radio or lose reception on DAB channels). Its a shame you live so far away as otherwise I'd offer to help you sort it out - my day job is an electronics engineer and watching your videos helped me pass my test a couple of years ago and also gain a promotion and a bonus at work (I didn't drive for much of my life as I lived in or near London, but ended up moving to Suffolk and working in a semi rural area so I needed a car to get around..)
Ashley’s doing Mock Tests now?! Yeeeessss!!
Thank you joe . Effort very much appreciated . You are a great guy allowing us the video .
This content is so helpful! I just had my first ever lesson 2 days ago and I'd been preparing myself by watching Erin's videos. I was honestly terrified about steering but turns out I just knew how to take corners which really surprised me. Must be the years of road cycling paying off :) Thanks to you Ashley & your videos I decided I was going to push past the fear I always associated with driving and now it turns out I really enjoy it, can't wait for my next lesson! :)
Cycling can help more than what many people realise
I was nervous for joe watching this ! Brave for letting the world watch along! 🤙🤙
Tests are awkward these days, especially if you're doing it in a car with lots of driver assistance systems. The first serious fault probably wouldn't have happened with a car that has auto-hold. The electronic handbrake looked like it was confusing him too. This kind of thing will only get more prevalent with electric cars, seeing as they do almost everything for you. But I guess most of driving is about driver skill and situation awareness. Ideally you want to learn to drive in a car with no fancy systems, but in future nobody will even learn to drive manual anyway.
To be fair, it would have been a good idea for him to look at all the controls and ask questions about the electronics handbrake before moving off. Similar to the checks/adjustments you would do with a seat and mirrors after getting into a car you haven't driven before. Having said all that though, I appreciate that a manual handbrake would typically be assumed.
I'm confused by that one way street because the sign says it's one way but the road markings for joining that road say you can turn either left or right. 🙈 Obviously the sign is what's important but confusing still.
His excuse for " I never venture down this area " when he made the mistake on the one way street, cut's no ice with me. He was asked where to go, and given clear instructions. That said he SOULD BE OBSERVING the road markings and understand what's required to complete the task. If he'd made the mistake and then said sorry instructor i cannot go right from this lane I've missed my turning i can go straight on only here, would have been fine. Showing he understood the mistake and why. but he didn't. I would not pass him either. He needs at least 15 lessons if not more to clear up a lot of unsafe habits. To close to the cars on the left, mirrors, and signals, and positioning but to name a few thing's. But credit for trying. Keep at it have some lessons, build confidence and most importantly LISTEN to what is being said.
Best driver education channel on TH-cam, hands down!!!
As someone who had riden motorcycles for 13 years before I took my car test, stalling the car was one of the faults I used to make as withba bike you ride the clutch more than a car the other was following a straighter line around a rounabout. I reckon 5 or 6 lessons Joe would be fully aware of the car and the odd quirks ( e handbrake) and allow him to get used to the car then he would smash the test.
I did the opposite. Been driving my car for 10 years and only this year went and done my motorcycle test. I feel like I transferred to the bike quite well. I had a small bit of experience on a small bike in my younger years and little bit of riding on private property and private roads.
Thanks Joe for allowing this to be filmed. I failed my first driving test for poor positioning on a right turn from a one way street - common mistake - but now you’ll be prepared for it. Good Luck for your test xx
Bit late to the party..
I am an ex driving examiner and I just wanted to point out your calm manner with the candidate that they would receive on test. Some things were hard to judge on video such as distance for parked cars and rolling back etc. But the main difference from what an examiner would do would have been the serious fault for being in the wrong lane to turn right.
On test, providing it was safe and no risk etc, I would have allowed him to turn right in the wrong lane, and only at that point would it be a serious fault.
I appreciate you can't allow him to do it as an instructor, but you could have waited until he was about to do it. I often found that even at the last moment the candidate realised what they were doing and then stopped. If you intervene too early they don't have the chance to realise and that is an unfair fail.
Essentially though I realise the difference between a test and a mock, great job all around.
Well done Joe, one for letting Ashley film your mock test, and second on how well you did after not driving a proper car for a long time. Good luck with your theory test next month.
thanks Neil Till i have now passed the theory test and have my driving test booked for the 31 of august 2021
@@joeheyes318 I would wish you luck, Joe, but with driving like that you won’t need it. As a cyclist I would be delighted if all drivers were as considerate and skilful as you.
Failed my test after rolling back at lights... been 8 years since I took my test, at 34 - it's a late start, but I'm enjoying driving now... and it's so much easier. This fella has more balls than me to film his first lesson after 8 years lol. Watching these videos helps a lot, too!
I rolled back on my driving test… in a bus… leaving a bus stop… because I'd forgotten to put the transmission from Neutral to Drive. Was staggered and actually felt a little cheated when I passed.
Topman!
Good job mate! Superb. Absolutely outstanding! Especially for a 'first-timer' driving a car on the road after so long.
I sometimes wonder if I would be able to pass my driving test if I took it now or if I've developed too many bad habits over the years.
Having watched this I have confirmed my suspicion that I most definitely would not pass a test now!
I did wonder the same ...
This reminds me of one of the things my driving instructor told me during one of our early lessons, on approaching a roundabout in a 60 km/h speed zone. He said I knew what to do - position the car, check if it's clear, select the right gear, indicate - I just didn't quite have the order figured out. One of the things that was a big help to me, was that he demonstrated just how slow you could go in 4th on engine braking without the engine complaining about it. In other words, if I just put it in 3rd gear ahead of time on the approach, I didn't need to bother about changing gears for quite some time, leaving me ample time to observe and sort things out.
Fair play Joe that was a cracking effort!
Great vid & Joe's a top chap for doing this. Those electronic handbrakes are a complete pain, my wife's car has one and it totally spoils an otherwise great vehicle, answers a question nobody ever asked.
Could you explain the issue with the indication at 23:50?
Is it the fact that he's kept it on despite not moving off straight away, or is there something I've missed?
How should one act in a situation where you are waiting for a gap, particularly if the traffic is high and you effectively need to 'ask' for a gap?
Thanks in advance if anyone can make this a bit clearer.
A signal sat at the side of the road says to the cars that are passing that you intend to move out, but you don't intend to move out until they are passed. Wait till there is a gap that you intend to take and signal your intentions to take that gap. This technique may change if you are parked and are trying to emerge in to a queue which is moving very slowly.
@@ashley_neal thanks for the clarification, that makes a lot of sense!
always makes me nervous watching other people behind tailgaiting.... especially a learner! even now i have passed i always give learners plenty of space as i remember being a learner too and how it always shook me up when other drivers where getting to close, although the cam probably gives more of a closer look than it actually is it still makes me nervous. that was a great drive from Joe and i wish him well for his theory and practical tests.
I like being the "force field" that keeps all the tailgaters away from learners when I happen to be behind them. I keep the same pace as them of course, just more distance. It's a good idea anyway as I have seen learner drivers (I'm not saying most if any do this) slam on their brakes for turns. We've all been there when we were learning to drive, so it doesn't hurt to show a little respect to new drivers.
omg yes, a new series! Really enjoy the longer content tbh, miss erins lessons and always wanted to see you do Mock tests. Haven’t watched yet bc busy but will do!
Top video. Good work Joe. Take the advice on board and you'll make a top notch driver.
Wish my instructor was as calm n collected as this.
A great example of why auto/electronic handbrakes, stop/start, hill hold etc should not be on cars people learn to drive in. One, they are an intrusive pain in the ****** even for experienced drivers until you adapt to whatever your car happens to have (and even then some are still intrusive!). Two, the learners will pass their test and they go and buy an older/smaller car with little to no tech and really struggle to drive it. I realise the world moves on and I never learnt without synchromesh, but there needs to be a minimum set of manual controls that need to be mastered to get a licence.
Not sure how he managed it but my partner's stepdad has an electric handbrake and his car rolled in the drive when he wasn't inside the car and it hit the brick shed at the end of the drive. Personally I'd rather be able to feel how much tension is on the handbrake cable then rely on an electric servo or motor pulling the brake cable
Nice, I used to live in this area, Bootle, I'm going to take the test May 15th, I drive over 24 years, been in England for 2 years, it will be a great help to have this mock test. Cheers
Top lad for letting this go on the net! Interesting watch, we all start somewhere. No shame in making mistakes in the correct environment.
That place seems to love it's speed bumps.
Brilliant vid ash would love to see more. Would also like to know how Erin is getting on with her lessons, maybe a video where you call Erin and discuss driving?
Erin has her test soon. I'm still hoping I will be able to be there on test day 🤞
@@ashley_neal Brilliant news, good luck to Erin!
I was also wondering how Erin was doing too. Looking forward to the next update Ashley 😊
@@181VICKSTER Erin passed her test recently
Very interesting, thanks for uploading! I wonder what percentage of people would fail if they had to take that route on their test (95%+?); that one way street is a recipe for super high failure rates unless you've been down it beforehand, especially given the cars pretty much parked on the right hand exit. Good job he encountered it on his mock, just in case.
Eight years of not driving cars and using an electronic hand brake system. It was bound to be rocky but well done for taking the initiative to take a mock test to see where he needs to be to pass.
Ps He doesn't use his wing mirrors hardly especially when passing pedestrians getting into car, walking in the road and passing junctions.
Ashley, could you explain more about Driver Fault 5 please? I don't understand how signalling can be a fault, and I don't understand how a car stopping because of that signal can turn that into a serious fault.
What is the danger in this?
Imagine having a driving exam with johnny sins, he can add another profession to his ever growing list 😂
Back in 81 when I was learning I had the same issue with stalling. I spent one entire lesson practicing pulling away first on the flat in 2nd gear, once mastered pulling away on the flat in 3rd gear, then progressing on to an uphill slope in second, then third. Never had a problem after that. I doubt the uphill start practice would have been possible with an electric handbrake though.
Welll done Joe. Hope you go on to pass your test. You done really well indeed 👏
I've been driving since 2016, yet I'm still enjoying this channel!
I enjoy it as well, and I've been driving since 1993, laws and ways to do things change over the years so always something to learn from this young chap 😊
"young chap"! I'm enjoying this thread 😂
@@will4may175 been driving since 76 and still learning, only had one accident not my fault, but a few close shaves
been driving since the mid eighties, still learning valuable skills and attitudes from Ashley, thanks a lot for your effort
At 14:30 the fault was not using the mirror before slowing for the red light. But, he was always going to stop, looking in the mirror wouldn't have changed that. So, although I agree he needs to look, I'd argue that he could look as he begins to brake, rather than before braking as looking first would only delay the braking action.
- Ashley Can You Explain The Drivers Fault Where Parked Up On The Left For The First Time (24:23) Because I Thought You signal Just Before You Set off In Which I Thought He Did. Thank You For Your Time, God Bless.
I've never liked e handbrakes. Look at how much concentration he is having to put into working out if its on or not. Its distracting him from the road. OK you might gain trust in it with time but to me it's trying to solve a problem that want there. With a lever and a cable you can feel its on without taking your eyes off the road. I've known people who have gone into the shops, come out and its rolled into a bollard on cars where its supposed to be automatic and they've got out the habit of actually looking if its engaged.
Well done Joe.
It takes a lot to put yourself out there like that, with everything on show for everyone to see.
Good luck with your theory test, and when it comes, your practical test.
thanks ian i have now passed the theory test and have my driving test booked for the 31 of august 2021
@@joeheyes318 Excellent Joe - delighted for you.
Best wishes come August - I'm sure you'll cruise it✌️
Ashley's mask made my day. 🌈👌
Wait so is ashley gay? I dont know anymore
@@jcs_190 he is married to his wife with about half a dozen kids.. where did u read or when did he say he was gay?
@@jcs_190 I mean, he could be a homosexual. It is not our business, though. It is impossible to tell unless he says so. He can open up if he wanted to. Having a rainbow on you does not mean you are gay - outside and inside the community. Rainbows are cute.
Hiii, I'm going to just say... I'm old school even though I'm just 30 years old... I cannot drive an automatic, I would very much struggle and I don't think I would be able to deal with this vehicle.
Not looking forward to say 20 years down the line when all cars are all fandangled and have major features like this.
I think I would have to give up driving!
I love having my stick and old school handbrake! And hate the thought of the top start feature too!!
Old habits will stay with me forever lol
U will get used to it, might not be as “fun” but u will get used to it. Also I’m pretty sure most cars u can disable start stop, at least on mine you can
Watching dashcam footage of someone driving in a 20 zone is like watching someone drive in slow motion. 😱😱 Feels like it takes forever to get anywhere. Great video though, mad respect for him to let you post his driving for the Internet to see. 👊
Was looking at that long 20 stretch. Around here, nobody would bother sticking to it. Likely get overtaken if you did.
@@davidrumming4734 agreed.
Parking on the right then reverse... that's a new one on me :O
Good luck Joe, from another Joe :) Would be great to see a video going through all the positive points of his driving.
He did a really good job in a dificult situation - unfamiliar much larger vehicle with no acclimation time.
That Iveco around the 42/43:00 area is a disgrace being that close. The common moron that can't grasp that they wouldn't get much further, if at all by Joe sitting on the next car's bumper.
He and Ashley dealt with it really well. Calmer than me. I can't help but rant about tail-gaters and then just knock things down a few mph under the limit to annoy them, although it somewhat reduces the risk, which is one positive of my poor reaction.
I've got a little baby coming this summer though and the thought of them being on the backseat and hit because of someone riding the bumper really winds me up.
I will never break check but I will never be forced to go faster.
Kudos to Joe and Ashley.
Interesting; thanks to Joe.
It is hard getting used to new cars or cars that operate differently.
I had sweaty palms watching this. Desperately wanted him to nail it. He's not a bad driver, just a bit more practice.
Takes me back to my mock tests 😅 luckily they were very different from my actual practical! 🤣
Mock tests: drive down narrow roads, multiple complex junctions and reverse around a corner on a hill
Test: sit in traffic for 30 minutes then reverse in a straight line to bay park
@@TheVanderfulLife haha for me it was different 😅 my actual test was on voting day, it was hailing and I had city and rural roads (Bristol) with the parallel park manoeuvre. I don't miss it 🤣 I just meant I made such stupid mistakes in the mock tests haha but better to do it then rather than on test day!
Failed every mock test i did and passed my actual test first time 🤦♂️😂
My instructor didn't agree to them so i never did one. Luckily i still passed.
@@welshone92 I got progressively worse in my tests XD took it 3 times. First time 0 minors 2 majors, second time 14 minors 1 major (i was very unwell doing this one) and third time 6 minors big oof there XD BUT I DID IT and now SOMEHOW i am road legal. Much rather ride a motorbike than drive a car.
Question for my own knowledge about an electric handbrake if I may.
At 6:15 Joe puts the car into neutral and then applies the handbrake but this is not flagged as a fault. Is this OK in this instance? Is the car secured with the footbrake?
Also, out of curiosity, do you HAVE to use the handbrake at every traffic light? I don't use mine until I park lol am I lazy or is it just habit? I'm just confused lol! I mean maybe I'd use it if say I was waiting at a train crossing or at traffic jam but I don't do it just for traffic lights. That said, I'd definitely use it for hill starts
You don’t need to use it all, I didn’t use it once on my test even on hill starts since I used my own car I had the clutch balance perfect, and the examiner passed me, just be sure to stay away from parked cars because they seem to have a serious niggle with not being in a good position in the road, going off the one I had and the one my friend had
@@drakevevo3710 that's good... I thought I was going crazy haha! Tbf.. I passed my test so long ago now I think I'm stuck in my old ways.
Doesn't sound good really lol
May I ask, at around 23:50, Joe is faulted for sitting with his indicator on, why is this a fault?
Is it because it can slow the flow of traffic behind?
I won't lie, when I'm doing my deliveries, I always indicate right to let people know what my intentions are, rather than a wish to let me out.
Most people just pull out in front of you, without a signal, which is obviously a serious fault but as someone already on the road, I'd rather someone be signaling what their intentions are. It's then up to me to carry on or let them out through steady breaking.
I slightly get it but it seems like such a harsh fault when in every day driving, most people would appreciate knowing Joe is intending to pull back out onto the road when clear.
How come he didn’t do any reverse manoeuvres or reverse parking?
15:57 driver neatly showing why you don't get too close to parked cars!
Not related to this video - but weren’t you going to learn to drive a HGV a while back or have I imagined that?
I was and I still am! It's just been put on hold due to restrictions.
Well done Joe, you performed an excellent mock test considering the length of time since your last lesson....and you must have been nervous/star struck 😜 with Ash in the car. Great video as always, and loved the format.
"the handbrake releases when you lift the clutch up" - I was taught handbrake then neutral but after 40 years of driving it's now handbrake neutral handbrake! handbrake!! handbrake!!!
As in the handbrake releases when you hit the bite point and you're in gear. if you lift the clutch in neutral the engine goes off, would be no good if the handbrake went off too lol.
@@Bisonrulz16 Engine turns off when clutch hits the bite point and display says "start engine manually". If I stop it on an upwards hill it turns the engine off but then turns it on again if I manually engage the handbrake. Modern cars don't want you to be in control.
@@andyalder7910 dunno what to tell you mate, sounds as if you've got a faulty handbrake. My car displays none of that weird behaviour. Engine only goes off in neutral with parking or hold brake applied. On a hill engine stays on to ensure power for hill start. Only displays "turn engine on manually" if stopped in neutral with handbrake on for too long.
A great effort. Modern tech car. A three wheeler on a motorcycle licence to this BMW awesome
Just before Joe’s first serious fault, he turned right due to the lane instead of continuing straight on.
If I made a navigational issue in my real test, is this a fault?
He did ask whether he could go straight on and when Ashley said he'd leave it up to him to decide, he took the safe route. I am not even sure going straight on was allowed here but it looked like it was, albeit very risky with all those cars nipping up on the left.
Well done joe, thanks for letting us share the experience with you :). It’s been so long since I’ve seen one of these and I think he did a great job. I love these videos cause there’s so many different learning points all packed into one video. I kept looking at the crossroads remembering the video you did on those a couple of weeks ago. The one thing I always pick up on when at temporary traffic lights is that people position there cars on the oncoming lane long before there even close to the traffic lights, surely you should only pull out into that lane once you know you can get through or maybe I’ve been doing it wrong 😅. Once again though great video and great analysis Ashley, top man.
Passed my driving test after only 18 hours of lessons!
I just want to say a massive thanks to your videos, they helped so much!
I watched many youtubers but Ashley Neal especially! Yeah he seems like a bit of a twat, but it's for all the good reasons! Love you man! Keep up the work
That Sabb estate was a bit out to far at 13 33. I would have slowed down a tiny bit just to anticipate him pulling out on Joe. its the small little details i pick up on!!
Overall it was a fair result, only thing I have an issue with was Driver Fault 2. He was close to the cars but at the same time Hawthorne road heading from junction of Marsh Lane to junction of Merton Road is not wide enough to accomodate 2 lanes of passing traffic and a door's width from the parked cars. When you gave him the fault there was another car coming in the centre of the opposite lane so he maybe had a few inches to play with. Especially considering this is moments after a narrowing in the road. If this is a fault I'd say this is far more of an appropriate speed type of fault than a car positioning fault since there is far more scope for him to control the speed than the position there.
However, if this fault was given for the 20 seconds prior when there were no oncoming vehicles yet the car was still positoned centre of the lane then fair enough, at that point you could easily have given a fair bit of space to accomodate a door's width. I'd just recommend moving the timestamp back a few seconds so that people going by timestamps don't get confused
I don't think Joe did a bad job at all, considering the gap between lesson and the test. Nice one. Few lessons to polish a few bits and a new license. 👍
i missed these kind of videos soooo much, i wish DGN would come back with these soonnnnnn
(four minutes in ) I'll need to come back to this - good luck Joe.
I couldn't not watch.
I kept thinking, "I'll stop it now and catch up when I can" but I was engrossed.
Poor Joe - less than ten minutes in and he sees a van smashed up - that would have shot his concentration for a few minutes.
Hi Ashley,
This is the first mock test video I've watched of yours.
Is there a reason that you are fault marking instead of weighing and assessing the faults?
Driving tests are not fault marked, ie the move off Joe did at the start. You gave him a driver fault for not checking the blind spot immediately before moving off, despite Joe doing it twice. This was only a small deviation from the defined outcome. There was no one around the vehicle at that time and would be unlikely someone would jump Infront of the car in that time.
Examiners should be weighing the faults and making an assessment on the situation.
The DVSA often advise ADI's to use the same wording as the examiners, that way, pupils don't get confused when on test. The wordings can be found in the DT1.
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A small deviation from the defined outcome but a massive increase in risk. Faults aren’t marked on just when they cause problems. Potential risk is also assessed. Joe passed his test first time at the end of August 👍🏼
That is correct. The blind spot check needs to be the last thing and very soon before moving. I don't remember the scenario in the video but there are certain times when it wouldn't be a fault. Long straight road with recent check and nothing around for example. If its lots of drive ways and side roads then absolutely needed
Great video Ashley, really enjoy these types of video as i have my test coming up at the end of June! Also where did you get the colourful mask from as I'm sure there will be plenty of
people wanting to know? Thanks for sharing! :)
My mask is from Kurt Geiger 👍🏼
@@ashley_neal It's an awesome mask :)
That crossing wasn't marked well at all, so Joe was correct to ask if he could go straight on when he was sat behind the bin wagon. In this instance Ashley could have confirmed it rather than have Joe risk sideswiping something on the left.
Makes me wonder hearing a test should be 40 minutes why 8 years ago my test was over and done with in 25 minutes
DVSA schedules longer tests than the legal minimum so its possible for them to shorten the test somewhat if required
@@eng9725 I was talking to an ex driving instructor some years ago that the shorter the test, the more chance the candidate had failed and it was pointless carrying the test on, so they would finish them early
I dont know if that's the case nowadays....?
@@Keithbarber at the moment this is especially the case. If you make a major fault, the examiner will reroute the test back to the centre to minimise extra time in the car (covid)
Ashley what would you (or any examiner) do in a situation at 15:15 if the driver turned down the road that is marked no left turn except cycles? I presume you would have to stop the pupil making the mistake resulting in a fail?
There is a difference between me conducting a mock test and an examiner conducting a real test. On a real test is the only time a provisional license holder is allowed to drive unaided. And examiner may let a serious fault like that go as long as there is no danger, whereas myself being an instructor in charge of that lesson should stop that from happening. The same could be said of Joe's second serious fault on the one-way street. I hope that makes sense?
"Not gonna talk much...ain't got a cob on" Lol
I thought that there was a lack of use of the mirrors when slowing down or speeding up / setting off throughout the whole thing.
What is that switch he keeps toggling that is by the gear shift lever? Note: It may be a European thing, but my car doesnt even have a hand brake. We always kept our foot on the brake and put it in neutral if it was a manual transmission. I wonder if the cars like yours sold in the USA have that electronic handbrake...
It's the ebrake/handbrake/however you want to call it. In the UK they have a weird traffic law. If you know you'll be stopped for longer than a few seconds, you must apply the handbrake. Has to do with the brake lights apparently causing too much glare.
You mentioned your car doesn't have a hand brake? What car would that be? How do you even park your car on a hill without handbrake for example?
@@BelgianCat I have a Toyota Rav4. It has a parking brake, but no lever for it. The parking brake is electronic and automatically comes on when you shift into Park on the transmission. It does have a function called HOLD that applies the brake and holds them on, when you apply the accelerator, it is automatically released. It works with the push of a button.
I past my test 2 years ago and I havnt driven consistently since, partly because of insurance and partly because of nerves
I've always wondered with auto start/stop, does it monitor your battery levels? No point stopping/starting if you are out to charge the battery :D
With my car the auto stop/start is only enabled if the battery has reached a certain level of charge. If the battery charge is low, it gets turned off. From what I can tell, the charge level for enabling stop/start is far above the minimum level needed to start the engine from cold.
This was a very sensible drive.
Gas before clutch.
Good video, and it's great to see you doing a mock test. I already follow a couple of other channels who do them regularly and they're very interesting
Interesting format to discuss the fault after it happens as the watcher can test to see if they noticed it. It does cause a fair bit of rewinding if you don't though!
I know it's academic, but there were a few examples of hesitancy there -- I failed my first test for repeated hesitancy examples. On one occasion the examiner said that I should have pushed my way into a busy road rather than wait for a proper gap. Still disagree with that for a test but there you go -- maybe things have changed in the last 20 years.
I have so many driver assist automated functions in my own car it would be hell for a learner driver to have to take a driving test in it.
I've been waiting for a year to take my test, I just want to take it but the wait is so long and I can't just keep paying for driving lessons
I'm curious... If you'd noticed that you were in the wrong lane to turn right, would it have been a serious fault if you'd continued straight instead without the intent of turning? Or is it a serious fault because you didn't do what the instructor said to?
As long as it doesn't happen too often, it would not be considered a fault.
You should do someone who passed 2 years ago, 5 years ago 10 years ago and 20 years ago. See how their driving is different.
Great idea. I picked up loads of bad habits and hate roundabouts! I did my advanced driving and feel far safer but spend my time avoiding others!
Good luck with your proper test, Joe. Just a little more confidence and car control and you’ll nail it.
Just got to the end where you say it’s been 8 years since you’ve had a lesson. Bloody brilliant work.
This is kinda like me.
I stopped around 22ish and kicked them off again at 30. Hopefully, I’ll get it this time.
I wouldn't normally sit through a 50 minute upload but, for once, decided to make the effort. One of my better decisions this week.
Despite having 30+ years driving experience I'm beginning to think that I might've developed one or two bad habits......
Only way to find out is for you to consider an assessment; before, during, or after experiencing the pleasure (or pain) of driving my old 🇬🇧 classic. I am definitely up for the challenge. You can even choose what vehicle I use even if it means hiring one. Ford Transit, or similar, is something I haven't driven for a very long time. Just a thought and why make things easy for me? No pressure 😁
I was going to upload a fifty minute video... 😅 Nah, I was not.
There is always room to grow even after decades of driving. Sometimes bad habits seep in. I am guilty. I leaped off a moving vehicle to another moving vehicle, then threw the guy out. 😂
@@ClaireYunFarronXIII Hmmm.....
Tell me more but probably better away from public chat. Sort out an email address and we'll take it from there, ok.
10:40 I wonder how the HGV managed that one, I am impressed XD
Looks like he has let the trailer cut in too much and hit the railings and popped the box off the trailer. To be fair the sides and top on those trailers are basically there to shelter the cargo from the elements. The lightweight frame and sheet metal covering has basically no chance of resisting the forces of an impact with the momentum of that truck behind them even at low speeds. It is the flatbed underneath that is actually solid managing to bend that significantly would be impressive but as you can see that looks pretty much fine probably missing some paint at worst.