I'm surprised Ashley wasn't more critical of the dash cam driver with the Blue BMW, she was too close to it taking off at the roundabout and should have held back when there was no indication from the BMW, i was waiting for if she had done so she would " have made this a non event " but it didn't come....
do you really expect a bmw driver to indicate? lol the driver that sent the clip in did say they should have kept a pocket of space so they already knew they had done wrong in keeping themselves safe, no need for Ash to to be more critical.
Thought the same, was clearly following impatiently and tried to force her way into lane 1. BMW didn't cross into her lane, she crossed into his, clear fault of cammer
My thoughts too. Can't recall a clip I didn't agree with Ashley's analysis before, but unless I'm missing something, this analysis seemed bizarre to me - sure, the BMW driver had a part in this, but seemed like the cammer was eager to quickly move to the left lane to stop before the red light (again, unless I'm missing something). And I see little to jump to the conclusion that it was a cash for crash scenario.
ahh but apparently that is "sling shotting" and thus "gaining an advantage" garbage of course and by far the safest solution, but when going all round stay to the right so no one goes in front of you
Yep, i did this the other day, i probably could have made the exit but it really wasnt worth the risk as they say. And only took another minute to circle around and get into the right position.
Thank you for featuring my cycling clip Ashley, the driver of the BMW wasn’t focused on what was developing further ahead. But at least the driver was understanding when I explained why I had stopped.
In a 10s clip we see: - Impatiently badgering a cyclist, peeping them and gesturing - Passing the van with barely any space, doesn't even wait for the van to park up - Turns out of the junction without indicating Some people should not have a license.
And Oh thank you Ashley, you saved me £4000 with your car vertical link, I was minutes away from buying a car and thought about the advice you gave out as it seemed a bit cheap. Clicked your link and the car had £8000 of outstanding finance with 4 years remaining. The seller tried lying saying it had been cleared, so I called the finance company, who were lets say very interested and said, dont buy it or it will be repossessed from you.
yeah, i was looking at vans during the summer this year, seen one that meet the specs i wanted, thought i best be sure and used car vertical and found out the van still had finance left to pay by the owner, i didnt even go to look at the van as i would be hoping that they pay off the debt when i give them the money. its a mine field trying to find a vehilce at a good price that is also honest.
13:22 There was a massive derailment that killed a train crew just a few days ago from an abnormal load stuck on a crossing, absolutely stupid and can be deadly
Many of these issues stem from the kind of society we live in. There's bad driving through poor education and awareness but most of these stem from the kind of narcissistic society we live in and one of the traits of narcissism is the complete disregard and awareness of others.
Something the clip with the bike in the carpark has guven me cause to say "if someone is stopped in a position and you see no reason for it, have a think why they have stopped there". Because quite often, they will have seen something further ahead that you havent. Not always, people stopping randomly does happen, but normally they have a reason
Absolutely. It's not 'that idiot has stopped', it's 'what has made them stop?' That process has often allowed me to identify hazardous situations those behind me have blythely driven into.
Why are you saying your viewer is in the right with the A38 video? There’s one simple rule on the road - don’t crash into anyone. She could have avoided slamming into the BMW and just expected them not to exit. Plus why would she exit onto a ramp from the inside lane of a roundabout.
Same, they moved over to the left lane ready to take the next exit. Most roundabouts are even marked as such. This 1 had no marking so that's what I'd expect someone to do.
@@Veyron_fan but you still don’t slam into them. You slow down to either let them exit or you let them go so you can take the exit. The cammer instead decided the best thing to do in the roundabout is accelerate. Never assume anyone’s going to do anything and just anticipate what might go wrong.
I don't think he said they were. He just said that the other car did what they did to deliberately get into that accident. Part of the point of this channel is about trying to get out of this "in the right" attitude. Cammer already fessed up to making a mistake so there wasn't much else to analyse there.
Ah, that first clip is my colleague in W6 DCT. other drivers and I wondered how the trailer rims were bent but nothing mentioned on the defects. I believe that trailer is still on a VOR
That clip infuriated me because taht driver had plenty of space to pull straight and get out of that situation unscathed. Just needed to be more patient with it.
One thing I dislike about multi-lane roundabouts is that when approaching them, there are no road markings indicating the correct lane for going straight. As a result, you find yourself in the near side lane. Then, just a few yards from the roundabout, markings appear indicating that lane is for left turns only. Consequently, your stuck because the other lanes are already full.
The signage and layouts for these types of junctions is often very poor and doesn't help drivers get in the correct lane in the first place, and often doesn't help guide them around towards the correct exit. A few days ago I was at a big junction like this and sat in a very slow queue in the left lane as I thought that was the best one for the exit I needed, but there were no signs or marking to which lanes you should use. It turned out that I could have also used lane 2 for my exit, and that would have saved me a lot of time and not being sandwiched between big HGVs. The other issue is that so many drivers are reliant on SatNav and they follow the instructions barked at them from that, which often is too late or simply incorrect to get the correct lane. They listen to the SatNav rather than reading the signs and lane markings.
That last clip - Black Ice is lethal, I was once through a hedge between two trees on a bend, before I realized what was happening. It happens that fast.
I usually skip over the sponsored parts of videos, but because of the way that you have incorporated the Car Vertical report into the story of the clips, you have made it worth watching.
At 1:53 yes I've seen those hired bikes "abandoned" on the pavement. One solution to cut down on this would be for the rider to have to slot the bike back into an authorised collection point stand and if they fail to do so, the credit card they used to originally release the bike gets charged an extra fee or fine
@ibs5080 That is how they used to work. However bikeys complained that the bike racks were not where they wanted to go (think anti-car brigade that say we should all use public transport) and now these limeys are abandoned anywhere. Funny how people get all outraged when a car parks partially on the pavement, due to lack of parking provision, yet these limeys are now getting dumped anywhere and everywhere, often totally obstructing the pavement. Yet we never hear the pro-bikeys (anti-car) using the same argument, saying 'private property should not be left on public streets'.
The bike (& scooters) are intended to be left anywhere safe* so somebody can use them from where they are & their live location is shown in a phone app. *anywhere safe means to the side of a path, so they are not an obstruction for pedestrians. You are required to take a photo of them at the end of your journey to prove they have been parked responsibly. I regularly see them in the middle of paths when they could just as easily be placed at the side. I don't hear of any surcharges for bad parking though. These should be introduced/increased.
@@wibbley1 your bias is so on show it hurts. So many cars park awfully on the pavements, to the extent where the path is completely blocked. Now I do think these bike share bikes do need better systems in place for ensuring they’re parked well (taking a photo of the entire path with bike in frame to be verified quickly by a worker could be one solution, with a warning and/or fine for repeated offenses) but of course it won’t be perfect. Maybe cities could start putting lots more bike racks & bike parking areas around - they take up so much less space than car parking spots per vehicle. But apart from major cities, car parking is almost always way too frequent, encouraging people to drive when better options could be made available instead. The issue is it takes huge amounts of space to park a car for every person who might want to go into a city/town.
There is always the possibility someone came along and kicked them over. Probably didn't, but with the behaviour on show in this compilation I wouldn't be surprised either.
Yes, he did it calmly and explained politely why he was stopping which the BMW driver understood. I wonder if other famous online cyclists would have taken the same approach?
@@davem9204 Could you imagine if Jeremy vine id the exact opposite of what he currently does and instead just calmly informs a driver who did something stupid like the bimmer did why he did x thing? Maybe people wouldn't be so critical to the point he gets all pisched off and disables the comments or starts a major ban wave lmao I'm still yet to be blocked by him but ah well. when it does I'll wear that block like a badge of honour lmfao
HI Ashley. At 00:00. I love Bell Bollards ! They are like an iceberg. To argue it more carefully, the job of that bollard is to protect pedestrians and the street furniture from the actions of careless drivers. A bell bollard does that. Plus they are so robust that they are almost impossible to damage so a driver cannot easily damage one and do a hit and run, unlike a post bollard, so the cost of the careless driving goes back to the driver - not to the local council. And a dent in their pride and joy may well be one form of education that will succeed. It's far better than a pedestrian in hospital. I've seen far too many cases where a Council has listened to complaints and removed a bollard, and a pedestrian or other vulnerable road user is then injured in the same spot.
I love them too. They are everywhere in London. Whenever I was delivering to customers who had them on the corners of their road, I refused to deliver their goods. It was obvious the local councils didn't want trucks down there, so I was only too happy to comply. Great opportunity to get back early My how we chuckled when customers phoned up to complain about aborted deliveries and the extra redelivery cost.
@@rainbowevil No and No. No way was I going to start dragging pallets of goods over any distance just because some useless customer lives in a house unsuitable for artics. My level of competence is way in excess of what's required, I just chose not to baby sit people who couldn't be bothered to read terms and conditions and find out what type of vehicle was suitable for their road. Nice try at a veiled insult though.
3:12 If the cammer looks at your videos and sent it to you, you’d have thought they would learn from you, stagger on a roundabout and don’t under or over take, especially if the cars by you look hesitant.
At around 1:12 , good job by the oncoming van to wait whilst the Nissan Micra ran their red light. This demonstrates how vital it is to make sure oncoming traffic will actually stop for their red light before you make a right turn. I also recall one of Ashley's videos where he mentioned that if you are in the middle of a junction waiting to turn right, when your light turns red, it doesn't always mean the oncoming traffic will also be facing a red light. I was actually very surprised to learn this.
It's a sad fact that these clips highlight the 'norm' on our roads today. I think you are doing an excellent job of educating people into becoming defensive drivers by changing attitudes.
@johnneil4777 Yep the road use standards are rapidly declining. London is now a s'hole. So much diversity and bringing with it a diverse attitude and skill level. What with the lawless bikeys and either hard-of-thinking or dangerous drivers, London is not a place I enjoy travelling in. Not even safe on the busses, there is always trouble from fare-dodgers or unruly passengers. It was never this bad 20 years ago. I think it started with the hot-hatches becoming affordable to the youth in the 90's. Then with the increased population in cities by those without the intelligence or means to afford a car, confined to two wheels, clearly demonstrating their lack of intelligence every time they pedal.
I'm glad the cyclist managed to diffuse that situation with the BMW. So many times on twitter you see a cyclist initiate a confrontation when there doesn't need to be and it just looks awful especially when they're trying to advocate for road safety.
@@MattCantor21 I suspect the BMW driver was wondering why you’d stopped - you seem to have stopped really far back from where the van was going to be reversing and the van was still rolling forwards at that point - though clearly you’d correctly preempted the manoeuvre.
At around 8:25 the incident between our cammer and the caravan. Another reason to behave yourself rather than try to make something of it: Even though traffic is currently free flowing at motorway speeds, you never know if there may be a standstill further up ahead. You don't then want the other driver and their passengers to get out and confront you. Similarly if you intend to stop at the next service station. And no, it's never happened to me but there have been incidents where I was glad I made it a non event, aa there was subsequently an unexpected hold up further ahead.
Agree there. Just yesterday I was coming up to 2 sets of traffic lights close together and the first set turned amber. Slowed down and came to a stop. During that time a merc driver behind me was flashing his lights and horning at me 🙄. Even if I did go past just when it went red the 2nd set of lights would have went red so basically wanted me to jump 2 red lights to save 1 minute of their journey.
The A38 clip was 100% dodgy, the only other exit is back on yourself, to Birmingham or not, they knew where they were going and wanted that car to crash into her, but IMO she had plenty of time to react and go into the empty space on her right, would be surprised if it was ruled in her favour. All the lads will most likely claim for whiplash n all that
In my view, it was dodgy because of their refusal to hand over details. As for the late exit from the dual carriage way and indecisiveness on the roundabout, if there was no reason to suspect a motive, then that would say to me that they were just unfamiliar with the location. The cammer's positioning and assumptions on the roundabout were poor and a major contribution to the incident in my view.
Why on earth did she try to pass them in that spot too made it easy for them if it was crash for cash. Stay behind or stay staggered no reason for her to be trying to overtake there, and by that I mean leave the roundabout faster than the BMW is doing. Something to try and prove? Lose lose.
Yep, seems dodgy. 4 up in a beamer. Only other exit is where they came from. The may have been genuinely lost, showing poor driving standard exiting the motorway and using the roundabout. For a crash for cash, they would have needed far more than a minor tap & bent door. This may explain why they did not want to give details, as they needed a better crash for a claim. Lone female driver and a four-up beamer. Cammer lady should have dialled 999 immediately, for her own safety. Even if plod do not attend, her whereabouts and beamer details would be recorded. But how on earth did cammer-car crash into them? Beamer was clearly in her vision, in the lane she wanted to take. Maybe she is just another hard-of-thinking driver and could not think of any other option to get into that lane other than drive into the beamer.
Re at 5:22 the BMW driver not giving their details to the our cammer. I've often wondered about this in terms of what if the other driver / occupants are being aggressive or threatening? Are you still legally obliged to give a threatening party your details, including your full name and address? Or can you just call in the accident to the police with your details, the reg number of the other vehicle and they can then link the whole incident together? I certainly wouldn't want someone who I perceive to be a threat to know where I live or to know my full name.
from what i know, if you decide you are in danger being in a situation like that, call the police and give them the reg of the other car if you have it as well as your details and tell them you have driven away because you feel threatened. as long as you work with the police in the hours or days going forward it is usually fine. you can use your phone to call the police while driving if its an emergency.
By law you're supposed. Although if there's a potential threat of future retaliation due to the demeanour of the other person(s), I see no reason why you can't provide your details to the police officer attending the scene instead. There's definitely some legal precedents that need setting to really put that one into stone though.
At around 9:00 and bollards again. Another bollard situation to watch out for is those retracting bollards to limit vehicle access in certain areas of city centres. You have to pull up and press the intercom to request access. If approved, they remotely lower the bollards. The issue is if a second vehicle behind then tries to follow the first one. Many cases here in Canterbury where the 2nd vehicle gets impaled on the rising bollards. There are signs warning "No tailgating" but not everyone pays attention.
There is a famous bus gate in Manchester that claimed a few vehicles tailgating a bus. You may have seen those. Apparently there was a bus gate in Peckham, South East London, and it claimed a few vehicles. It was removed after a while.
I remember the bell shaped bollard 8n Wimbledon claiming a few cars. It was in the local newspaper. Most of the readers comments sided with the bollard. 😂
That first one has the ubiquitous 'blind spot, take care' sign on the back of the lorry. I think a sign like that is better placed inside the drivers cab!
The clip around 0:56 at the mini roundabout is such a common one. I've seen countless dash cam clips of virtually identical situations that this should always put you in high alert.
There's a mini-roundabout near me in a similar layout where on-coming cars often don't give way to the right-turner like this. I'm often the one doing the right-turn, so I try and tweak my speed on approach so I'm not reaching the give-way line at the same time at the on-coming car, reducing the chance of conflict.
7:26 An example of why you don’t start silliness with complete strangers. A lot of people are far too willing to take things to the absolute extreme to prove a point. You never know what kind of psycho you’re dealing with.
@bestintheworld568 Van towing a caravan. Red flag. As-you-likies. Best just keep clear & let them do what they are going to do. They care not if the van or caravan gets damaged. They will just go 'collect' another one.
2:14 cammer needs to make things like that a non-event. Porsche driver needs to learn to go right round and not change lanes like that. It is a ROUNDABOUT.
You're right but she deliberately blocked him and sped up to do so, instead of holding back for MAYBE a second to avoid an event but I guess she needed the clip.
Personally don’t get this one. If cammer used their head they should have let Porsche go and then carried on. Instead, to make a point, they try the block and waste more time. Porsche was clearly in wrong lane but who hasn’t chosen the wrong lane by accident before.
I can relate the the last clip: 4 New tires, going round a roundabout, between 15 and 20 MPH, hit black ice or diesel and wound up with my rear on the roundabout after 1 complete 360, it was scary as heck.
I had a similar thing many years ago, going round a roundabout slowly (a lot slower than I normally would as I wasn't entirely sure on my exit and there was no-one else around to hold up) and suddenly zero grip and the car just did a pirouette. It must have been oil/diesel and it was too warm for ice.
At around 2:19 I do feel multi lane roundabouts have always been problematic and I don't see it improving. Some of these are so called "spiral" roundabouts where the lane you are in takes you to your exit if you follow the original markings. There again, some of these roundabouts aren't spiral. Issues can arise when drivers aren't familiar with a particular roundabout and hence may not know at the onset whether it's spiral ir if they need to change lanes for their exit.
The clip of the Porsche in the wrong lane on the roundabout is so annoying to me. They can see he’s made a mistake, both comment on it, then close the gap and honk to make it worse 🤦♂️
I'll be a little controversial here, but the lane markings make that a dual carriageway. If the lane markings broke for a distance then it would be a roundabout, but as they are continuous and the the traffic in the other direction is separated then it's a dual carriageway. They may not have had the chance to brake hard as there could be other traffic close on their rear, hence closing the gap. The Christmas quiz question is: which car makes do we often see making last minute exits from dual carriageways or motorways on Ashley's channel?
@@hypergolic8468the Porsche is in the inside lane crossing all lanes of traffic. They shouldn’t be allowed to do it when they can go round the roundabout again instead of making the cammer plus other cars brake
A lot of the cammers do that, and while they technically remain in the right it is also bad road manners. People do mistakes, just let it pass and move on with the day.
I agree with the sentiment. Completely different sentiment but if you enter a mini roundabout and there's a traffic to you right and you turning right but the car behind you is turning left so getting impatient. Normally I leave a gap before turning right. Yesterday I saw the right side shifting slowly so I made my way onto roundabout and then some wally starts hooting why. So impatient
@@Kenjh71yes always the ones creating lasting issues, it’d be a non issue to most of us and as the other guy says just get on with the day. These people: make sure it’s as bad as it can be, save the video, moan about it to anyone who will listen, send it into YT. Who has the time to do that?
16:00 the instinct to hit the brakes is strong when there's a loss of control, but it's so important not to touch them in this situation. This is where cycling, in particular mountain biking, has a lot to offer drivers. You soon learn that braking on a low friction surface is a very bad idea!
This is why everyone should be forced to do skid pan training and bridge throw drills as part of the test as in some other countries. Most can’t handle the Tesco trolley stepping out let alone their car.
6:48 When a car is "brought into trade', that is bought by someone in the motor trade for further processing then, as long as the dealer handles it properly, the dealer isn't recorded as a new registered keeper. So if a car is acquired by an insurance company and then sold to a dealer for repair neither will be recorded as previous keepers on the V5. So if one was the 1st owner of a vehicle, it was written off, the written off car sold into trade and then repaired and sold retail to a member of the public the member of the public it was sold to would be recorded as the 2nd owner.
If they were following at more than 0.5 second following distance they'd have had time to react. Tailgating, not paying any attention to what's going on in front of them and didn't react at all to the BMW. On their phone maybe?
Can someone explain the clip starting at 8:36? Ashley says the left lane is a "left turning lane". But the white Fiat 500 turned left, albeit starts the turn late. Was this it? Or am I missing something?
in july i was back driving in the UK after many years (not so much driving) in germany. multi-lane roundabouts was the area for which i most prepared myself in advance, largely with ashley's (but also others') videos. it's frightening, but not difficult, just a few simple rules to be followed. result: non events.
@andrewdigby5114 Multi-lane roundabouts would work fine if people using them could actually drive. Similarly, spending much time away from public transport in south London, I needed to get around by bus. I was shocked by the change. Gone has polite queuing, letting the elderly on first followed by boarding in the order one has been waiting. Passengers now push & shove & just a pile-on, like we see in poorer countries and laughed at on those Clive James tv shows all those years ago. This same diverse attitude is now evident on the roads. Just driving in any direction they want, showing no concern or consideration for others. Certain types are attracted to particular car brands, which is why they get stereo-typed. Bikeys in London are the worst. Probably because they account for some of the poorest of the population, without the intelligence to pass a driving test or means to buy a car. I witnessed a fat copper one night, who had obviously been sent out to police the lawless bikeys. They just rode around him, refusing his lawful orders to stop. It was quite comical to watch. Copper resorted to just shouting 'get some lights' as the lawless bikeys rode past.
@2:15 cam driver sees, has time to comment on, and still drives into the situation. @13:15 whilst I agree about red lights and stopping, in the US that crossing wait can be 20+ minutes, due to the overly long cargo trains, hence a lot of people try to get through.
If it’s crash for cash stop making it so easy for them she had no need to try pass him there anyway wait 3 seconds until you’re off the roundabout especially given the unpredictable nature of people on roundabouts I think she was trying to prove something it being a BMW and all. Still bad driving from both of them.
I've seen plenty of drivers on roundabouts moving lanes like that BMW did, and they weren't shaping to take the same exit the cammer was. it was easily avoidable this one.
At around 1:20 perhaps a good reason for the UK follow other countries and ban parking against the traffic at all times. Currently it's only illegal at night. Interestingly, the Uk driving test includes pulling up and parking on the right, as if to actually encourage this practice. This clip was particularly bad, as the offending car crossed over immediately after turning into the side street. And into a taxi bay no less, though they don't appear to be a taxi.
12:25 fitting a phone mount to the steering wheel whilst driving will not fall foul of the handheld mobile phone use legislation, but will be illegal as a vehicle accessory that interferes with the ability to have proper control of the vehicle: Road Vehicles Construction and Use: "104. No person shall drive or cause or permit any other person to drive, a motor vehicle on a road if he is in such a position that he cannot have proper control of the vehicle or have a full view of the road and traffic ahead. "
One of the favourite places for people to dump Lyme hire bikes locally is on the tactile paving in front of a light controlled pedestrian crossing by the way out of the local Morrisons supermarket. Y'know, the bit of paving put there specifically to help blind people navigate. You couldn't cause more inconvenience and risk if you actively tired.
10:50 Always like Ashley using my clips - Thank You! The bin lorry was too close to the car in front. I think the road markings possibly confused the two old ladies in the car. A scary moment for them. I had an artic behind and made quick decision not to stop incase a)the artic couldn't/didn't stop in time and b)the artic would be more visible to traffic behind while the car sorted itself out with a little reverse.
maybe i'm just cynical and watch too much tv but the way that Renault was being driven at 01:21 is almost like its stolen... occupants splitting off in opposite directions and they don't seem to lock the vehicle behind them either
Yeah can see where you're coming from with him. Although all three occupants go in the same direction around the corner (although it does look at first like the fellow on the phone got out the car, but he hadn't), plus the driver locks the car remotely with his keys. So probably not stolen, but terrible driving!
That very first clip with the HGV mounting the bollard. I've seen similar with an Audi in the picturesque village of Woodstock just outside Blenheim Palace. They were turning a sharp corner in the village and didn't see the low bollard. In tbe Audi's case, they didn't actually mount the bollard but did some rather expensive looking damage to rve side of their car.
Also, the person coming down the wrong side of the road reminds me of when I was going down a country road and came up to a Range Rover. I sat still, as they only had to reverse 5 metres, compared to my 50 metres, round a corner, with another car behind me. I just crossed my arms until they moved
@ 1'56....have you ever been round the Sherrifhall roundabout where the A1 meets the A720 City Bypass? It's carnage between 6 and 9 in the morning and 4 and 6 in the evening. Given that it's one of the main routes into the Royal Infirmary for emergency ambulances, many drivers are totally oblivious to blues and twos coming their way, probably because they're on the phone or fiddling with the satnav.
The clip at at 3:00 was hard to watch, it was clear the blue car wasnt entirely sure where they were going for enough time before the crash to know to expect the unexpected from the blue car And it seemed as if zero attempt to stop/avoid a crash was made by the camera car..
I noticed a lot of the roundabouts near me have turned into spiral roundabouts and people are confused by them, because you can effectively go right from the left lane.
Ah yes, the chaos of Garretts Green road as it joins the Meadway at 12:38. It's just utter chaos at the best of times. There's so many junctions in the lead up to the roundabout, when the roundabout inevitably gets busy and people try to cut their way through the queue of traffic to join one of the smaller roads. It's probably one of the tamer things I've seen on there.
12:40 - the clip with the on-coming silver car turning right in front of the cammer. Going by the road markings it looks like that road the car is turning into could be a one-way road, so they wouldn't be cutting the corner if that was the case. My geoguessr skills aren't enough to work out where this is to work out if it is one-way. Mind you, the turn was a bit tight time-wise for the cammer.
1:10 is in Hastings my home town, I see that learner car regulararly driven around without a learner in the car to the point its more a personal car than a working learner vehicle. They will often carelessly drove on roundabouts ignoring lanes or pulling out on vehicles already on the roundabout.
I don't think the second clip had anything to do with the A pillar. I think it was more to do with the cammer being on a bicycle, and the driver thinking of cyclists as 'Lesser road users'
lorry drivers use to be good until requirements was reduced, and the multi lane roundabout... ye i get the porsche should go around again but the cam driver attitude of "make it worse" is one of the biggest problem on our roads. could have backed off abit and everything would have gone smoothly .... they COULD NOT WAIT to hit the save recording button over NOTHING... 4:57 cam driver got horse blinders on or somehing, say what you like about the bmw's mistakes that was shockingly poor
The hired bikes are an obstruction and a hazard on the highway, not just an eyesore. There needs to be responsive infrastructure for this, or a rethink of the entire scheme until it's properly thought through and supported!
14:00 to enter shaw ridge centre here you've got to do a 180 at a round about to come back and enter on the right side of the road as its a slip road type entry.
I disagree about the crash for cash. For the simple reason that the accident was too easily avoided and the BMW didn't do anything aggressive like sudden braking to make the accident more likely.
11:35.. I Get this all the time, you hold back because there is an issue in front and people behind get impatient because the only thing they are looking at is your rear bumper.
The clip with the lad hanging out of the Golf throwing things - was he throwing eggs? I saw on a local Facebook group (my parent's area) that a few drivers were getting their cars egged while driving along, obviously causing distress and danger when it hits the windscreen. Maybe there's some sort of daft viral online thing going around encouraging people to throw eggs at people? It's a shame John Prescott isn't around any more to sort them out!
The thing that scares me the most is the fact that a lot of drivers genuinely believe they're driving correctly. There's two sections in my daily commute that always has people in the ring lane.
With the opening clip, I guess the HGV driver is looking at his drivers side to see if he can get past the cars while not paying attention to the passenger side, he should have been well aware of the bell shaped bollard on approach to that junction. I feel they should have been more over in the right lane to make that turn but then the risk is that cars will try to pass on the left.
I had a similar skid in heavy snow some years back. While driving probably less than 10mph (I knew it was bad), I came to a slight left hand bend, and yet I slowed by taking my foot off the accelerator, and did not touch the brake. Despite this, I still did 270, and mounted the pavement in a T reg Escort, knocking a tyre off on the drivers side through hitting the curb sideways. Also, your clip with the caravan - I think the driver might not have had full control as he turned his head to argue with the van driver. It's possible he didn't keep the wheel straight.
The first mini roundabout has a double dashed line and clear give way sign . Conflicting information the other side has no give way, yet it has a roundabout sign.
On that stretch of road they put the give way sign to doubly remind people the main road doesn't have priority and to give way to the joining road on the right. There's also about 15 mini roundabouts in a mile along there!
Re the clip of the car turning off from lane 4. I’m convinced with some drivers of some cars that late exits are due to them wanting to be in the outside lane for as long as possible because it’s beneath them to be in any other lane and going “slower” with the plebs.
13:15 the rig in the US at the railway crossing? Seeing how much braking SUV and trailer combo had to apply to get stopped I wonder if the tractor and semi could actually have pulled up safely in time/space?? Looks like abt 8 seconds from the point the lights begin to flash to the artic appearing in shot. Looks as though no attempt to brake was made and that might just have been the driver's best option in this situation?
People have always struggled on the multi lane roundabouts. You'd think it would be easy to realise if your crossing a line your changing lanes ... but no. It is easy to get in the wrong lane. It's often only painted on the road a few car lengths before the roundabout and when there's traffic you can find yourself stuck in the wrong lane. But if its busy just go the wrong way and come back 🤷♂️
In the late 1970s, when I first drove cars on the road, and through most of the 1980s, there was some pleasure from simply driving. Politeness, situational awareness, and common sense has declined to a point where any longer journey is now a crash avoidance marathon. I have every intention of not running a car at all when I can claim the State Pension, in not too long ... I'll let my License lapse when it is due for renewal at age 70. If I cannot make enough saving from VED, fuel, servicing and insurance to cover the occasional taxi to the train or bus station, I'll tailer my number of journeys to be affordable. I gave up cycling two years ago after fifty-five years, but I only live a mile from all essential shops for daily life. When or if I can no longer walk a mile, I'll get groceries delivered! Best wishes from George
a popular thing near me is to have right hand on steering wheel at 10, fingers of left hand loosely attached to steering wheel at 4 so they can hold phone in the palm of hand and use thumb to scroll.
In the first clip, it doesnt help that the pickup driver is stopped on the crossing, making the turn tighter for the lorry . The black car behind also proceeds instead of allowing them to complete the manoeuvre.
Unfortunately that happens a lot. Some car drivers don't give HGV drivers time to make maneuvers. Some motorcyclists are worse. One time as I'm turning left at a mini roundabout, a motorcycle passed me on the left. If i didn't stop he would be under the HGV.
Hi Ashley, thanks for the clips and happy Xmas. When you mentioned the "bicycle eyesore", I noticed the horrific manoeuvre as the motorcycle squeezed between the traffic island and the vehicle (Merc?). Straight-lining multilane roundabouts when there's other traffic around seems to be a perennial problem.
4:50 onwards. Yes a subscription to car vertical would be handy in suspected crash for cash situations to tend one's mindset from the polite and helpful (regardless of fault) to the guarded and aloof. A car that has many people in, driven poorly and with a five or more recent history of dings, scrapes etc. has to ring alarm bells. Nice logic there Ashley. That being said a front and rear dash cam is the ultimate. It may be supposition but it appears to me that boyo was checking for a dash cam and knowing evidence exists they knew it was a dud and wanted to get away without giving any details. Again entirely supposition, but the circumstance do fit. Sorry for the trouble the lady has been caused!
0:48 given the cyclist said "unbelievable", I'm presuming they gave a good clear right turn signal for long enough before turning, so this comment isn't directly about that clip, but more of a general observation. I've noticed there seems to be a trend of very poor signalling now (not to mention no signal). When I was taught how to ride on the road, the signal was a fully extended arm held out at 90 degrees (so it's parallel to the ground) and done early enough and held for long enough for other road users to see and react to it, at least 3 seconds, preferably much longer, basically until you need to put your hand back on the handlebar for control in the turn. What I often see other cyclists doing now (if they bother signalling at all) is a subtle, lazy, signal. They take their hand off the bar and extend the elbow so the arm is straight (or maybe slightly bent), but don't lift it very far, if at all, so it's pointing down towards the ground alongside them, maybe 30 degrees, rarely 45, and it's often not held for very long either. It's almost as if they don't want the drivers to notice, or maybe they just think most drivers are much more observant then they actually are! Even if you position and signal well, some drivers don't seem to notice, so riders who signal like this have next to no chance of having their signal seen.
12:57 Yet another occasion where some awareness of, or reaction to, the road markings changing to closer spacing is needed. Never fails to surprise me the number of people who seemingly don't understand what the road markings are trying to tell them.
In the roundabout clip at around 2:19, I do feel the cammer could have helped the other car by simply holding back, as opposed to "putting the squeeze" on them and sounding their horn extensively. Make it a non event, right?
The woman who sent the video in of her crashing into the BMW on the roundabout was at fault in my opinion. Driving too close, exiting when it was clearly unsafe to do so and she was therefore the proximate cause of the collision. The BMW was in the wrong lane, but had the woman not tried to exit when there was a car in the way then it wouldn't have happened. Roundabout collisions are almost always settled 50/50 anyway, and this will be no different. One car proceeding around in the wrong lane, one car exiting when it was unsafe to do so.
Last clip: I was just thinking "keep your foot off the brake" ...it is oh so difficult to do but necessary in these situations. Multi-lane roundabouts: - IMHO, always been a problem. This is part of the reason (im guessing) that theyve tried to paint lane markings that show you where to go. Not that the majority seem to see them. Add in some modern impatience and entitlement - I'm sort of surprised there arent more accidents. And yes, I've been in lane 4 and wated to to turn left - went around the roundabout again. The blue beamer: Can't say it occurred to me that it was a crash for cash. I just thought stupid driver. But on replaying the clip, it looks as if he had the brakes on to position his car "just-so". Add in the motorway footage as well - now I can see your point. Red Lights: Not just the US obviously. But why would you jump a crossing when you might have 10s of thousands of tonnes of freight train heading towards you? By the time the driver of the train could have seen an obstruction it would be too late to stop and news footage shows wreckage of the train and nearby towns can be biblical as a result. Todays biggest problem is "must get in front". Not "must get to destination alive and in one piece". Dont engage with them is right. If they dont care about their own safety they are not going to care about anyone else.
In the 'Analysis Clip' the alarm bells rang for me with BMW driver's positioning at the lights. Their lane discipline appeared unpredictable and I'd have been dropping way back from them 'expecting the unexpected'.
That black ice clip is not far from being exactly how I wrote my first ever new car off about 9 months after I’d paid the finance off! Taught the younger me an expensive and quite painful lesson, luckily it was just me the ditch and very sturdy fence involved!
1:49 municiple bikes and scooters…. Axiomatic truth, ‘anything’s that is municipal will not be looked after and will get abused’ Therefore if you have things like this you need to employ people to control the equipment. [having an unsupervised station where the public can pick up and drop off will always become a problem]
Re changes of ownership, insurers don't become registered keepers when they retain ownership after full settlement. They're owned 'in trade' until such time as they're scrapped or repaired and sold.
The yob throwing stuff at pedestrians at 9:23 may have induced me to call 999 to give plod a chance of catching the passenger as well as the driver. I was once hit by a glass bottle thrown from a van and would have been very grateful to someone being a good citizen.
1:50 those hired bikes aren’t an eyesore. They’re a hazard to pedestrians who now need to walk on the road to pass them, and they’re a huge obstacle for disabled- imagine a fully blind person finding these with their cane and trying to work out what’s there, and how they can safely get round them? Or how far a wheelchair user now needs to backtrack up the road to find a dropped kerb to cross the road? Not far in this case, but potentially much further in others
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I'm surprised Ashley wasn't more critical of the dash cam driver with the Blue BMW, she was too close to it taking off at the roundabout and should have held back when there was no indication from the BMW, i was waiting for if she had done so she would " have made this a non event " but it didn't come....
do you really expect a bmw driver to indicate? lol
the driver that sent the clip in did say they should have kept a pocket of space so they already knew they had done wrong in keeping themselves safe, no need for Ash to to be more critical.
Thought the same, was clearly following impatiently and tried to force her way into lane 1. BMW didn't cross into her lane, she crossed into his, clear fault of cammer
My thoughts too. Can't recall a clip I didn't agree with Ashley's analysis before, but unless I'm missing something, this analysis seemed bizarre to me - sure, the BMW driver had a part in this, but seemed like the cammer was eager to quickly move to the left lane to stop before the red light (again, unless I'm missing something). And I see little to jump to the conclusion that it was a cash for crash scenario.
Yeh strange how he didn't jump on her in all honesty - he has many times B4 with others...
If you are going to miss your exit on a roundabout - go around! it's a circle, get it right next time!!!
Was gonna comment the same thing but you beat me to it! Amazing the risk people will take to save themselves 10 seconds.
ahh but apparently that is "sling shotting" and thus "gaining an advantage"
garbage of course and by far the safest solution, but when going all round stay to the right so no one goes in front of you
Yep, i did this the other day, i probably could have made the exit but it really wasnt worth the risk as they say. And only took another minute to circle around and get into the right position.
bad drivers never miss their exit
@@aleopardstail I've seen that video and remain sceptical of it leading to a successful prosecution unless the accused is daft enough to cough to it.
Thank you for featuring my cycling clip Ashley, the driver of the BMW wasn’t focused on what was developing further ahead.
But at least the driver was understanding when I explained why I had stopped.
Afternoon Matt, Thanks for sending in and giving us a great example on how to deal with that situation properly.
Must get past, fails to look ahead.
In a 10s clip we see:
- Impatiently badgering a cyclist, peeping them and gesturing
- Passing the van with barely any space, doesn't even wait for the van to park up
- Turns out of the junction without indicating
Some people should not have a license.
And Oh thank you Ashley, you saved me £4000 with your car vertical link, I was minutes away from buying a car and thought about the advice you gave out as it seemed a bit cheap.
Clicked your link and the car had £8000 of outstanding finance with 4 years remaining.
The seller tried lying saying it had been cleared, so I called the finance company, who were lets say very interested and said, dont buy it or it will be repossessed from you.
Wow! Thanks for letting me know. Great result👍
yeah, i was looking at vans during the summer this year, seen one that meet the specs i wanted, thought i best be sure and used car vertical and found out the van still had finance left to pay by the owner, i didnt even go to look at the van as i would be hoping that they pay off the debt when i give them the money. its a mine field trying to find a vehilce at a good price that is also honest.
Happy you got yourself out of that Mark. Could I ask where you saw the car? I know places like autotrader tell you
13:22 There was a massive derailment that killed a train crew just a few days ago from an abnormal load stuck on a crossing, absolutely stupid and can be deadly
Saw that clip - awful
I know the clip was Stateside, but ignoring railway crossing lights is endemic here too. Needs to be treated with the same severity as drink-driving.
Many of these issues stem from the kind of society we live in. There's bad driving through poor education and awareness but most of these stem from the kind of narcissistic society we live in and one of the traits of narcissism is the complete disregard and awareness of others.
Very true.
Absolutely this!
Could not agree more.
And not driving too fast or with insufficient gap ahead of you that you have time to react….
The crash was still so avoidable…
Something the clip with the bike in the carpark has guven me cause to say "if someone is stopped in a position and you see no reason for it, have a think why they have stopped there". Because quite often, they will have seen something further ahead that you havent. Not always, people stopping randomly does happen, but normally they have a reason
Absolutely. It's not 'that idiot has stopped', it's 'what has made them stop?' That process has often allowed me to identify hazardous situations those behind me have blythely driven into.
Why are you saying your viewer is in the right with the A38 video? There’s one simple rule on the road - don’t crash into anyone. She could have avoided slamming into the BMW and just expected them not to exit. Plus why would she exit onto a ramp from the inside lane of a roundabout.
I must admit I thought the cammer turned into the car when it seemed obvious they weren’t going to take the exit.
Same, they moved over to the left lane ready to take the next exit. Most roundabouts are even marked as such. This 1 had no marking so that's what I'd expect someone to do.
@@Veyron_fan but you still don’t slam into them. You slow down to either let them exit or you let them go so you can take the exit. The cammer instead decided the best thing to do in the roundabout is accelerate. Never assume anyone’s going to do anything and just anticipate what might go wrong.
I don't think he said they were. He just said that the other car did what they did to deliberately get into that accident. Part of the point of this channel is about trying to get out of this "in the right" attitude. Cammer already fessed up to making a mistake so there wasn't much else to analyse there.
Ah, that first clip is my colleague in W6 DCT. other drivers and I wondered how the trailer rims were bent but nothing mentioned on the defects. I believe that trailer is still on a VOR
That clip infuriated me because taht driver had plenty of space to pull straight and get out of that situation unscathed. Just needed to be more patient with it.
Exactly @@DAFPvnk, should have straddled both lanes to turn left at the junction. Cars will not give you room to swing into their side of the road.
One thing I dislike about multi-lane roundabouts is that when approaching them, there are no road markings indicating the correct lane for going straight. As a result, you find yourself in the near side lane. Then, just a few yards from the roundabout, markings appear indicating that lane is for left turns only. Consequently, your stuck because the other lanes are already full.
The signage and layouts for these types of junctions is often very poor and doesn't help drivers get in the correct lane in the first place, and often doesn't help guide them around towards the correct exit. A few days ago I was at a big junction like this and sat in a very slow queue in the left lane as I thought that was the best one for the exit I needed, but there were no signs or marking to which lanes you should use. It turned out that I could have also used lane 2 for my exit, and that would have saved me a lot of time and not being sandwiched between big HGVs.
The other issue is that so many drivers are reliant on SatNav and they follow the instructions barked at them from that, which often is too late or simply incorrect to get the correct lane. They listen to the SatNav rather than reading the signs and lane markings.
That last clip - Black Ice is lethal, I was once through a hedge between two trees on a bend, before I realized what was happening. It happens that fast.
I usually skip over the sponsored parts of videos, but because of the way that you have incorporated the Car Vertical report into the story of the clips, you have made it worth watching.
@KernowRoadcam Ash needs to pay for his new biking hobby somehow. He certainly won't be getting any sponsorship from the bike retailers 😂
That CarVertical transition was smoother than the brains of drivers we see on roads today.
At 1:53 yes I've seen those hired bikes "abandoned" on the pavement. One solution to cut down on this would be for the rider to have to slot the bike back into an authorised collection point stand and if they fail to do so, the credit card they used to originally release the bike gets charged an extra fee or fine
@ibs5080 That is how they used to work. However bikeys complained that the bike racks were not where they wanted to go (think anti-car brigade that say we should all use public transport) and now these limeys are abandoned anywhere.
Funny how people get all outraged when a car parks partially on the pavement, due to lack of parking provision, yet these limeys are now getting dumped anywhere and everywhere, often totally obstructing the pavement.
Yet we never hear the pro-bikeys (anti-car) using the same argument, saying 'private property should not be left on public streets'.
The bike (& scooters) are intended to be left anywhere safe* so somebody can use them from where they are & their live location is shown in a phone app.
*anywhere safe means to the side of a path, so they are not an obstruction for pedestrians. You are required to take a photo of them at the end of your journey to prove they have been parked responsibly. I regularly see them in the middle of paths when they could just as easily be placed at the side. I don't hear of any surcharges for bad parking though. These should be introduced/increased.
@@wibbley1 your bias is so on show it hurts. So many cars park awfully on the pavements, to the extent where the path is completely blocked.
Now I do think these bike share bikes do need better systems in place for ensuring they’re parked well (taking a photo of the entire path with bike in frame to be verified quickly by a worker could be one solution, with a warning and/or fine for repeated offenses) but of course it won’t be perfect. Maybe cities could start putting lots more bike racks & bike parking areas around - they take up so much less space than car parking spots per vehicle.
But apart from major cities, car parking is almost always way too frequent, encouraging people to drive when better options could be made available instead. The issue is it takes huge amounts of space to park a car for every person who might want to go into a city/town.
There is always the possibility someone came along and kicked them over. Probably didn't, but with the behaviour on show in this compilation I wouldn't be surprised either.
The cycle telling the BMW was A class.
Thanks, the driver didn’t have good observations.
Yes, he did it calmly and explained politely why he was stopping which the BMW driver understood. I wonder if other famous online cyclists would have taken the same approach?
@@davem9204
Being calm is better than getting angry in these situations.
the cyclist in the clip was me by the way.
@@MattCantor21 You handled it well.
@@davem9204 Could you imagine if Jeremy vine id the exact opposite of what he currently does and instead just calmly informs a driver who did something stupid like the bimmer did why he did x thing?
Maybe people wouldn't be so critical to the point he gets all pisched off and disables the comments or starts a major ban wave lmao
I'm still yet to be blocked by him but ah well. when it does I'll wear that block like a badge of honour lmfao
HI Ashley.
At 00:00. I love Bell Bollards ! They are like an iceberg.
To argue it more carefully, the job of that bollard is to protect pedestrians and the street furniture from the actions of careless drivers. A bell bollard does that.
Plus they are so robust that they are almost impossible to damage so a driver cannot easily damage one and do a hit and run, unlike a post bollard, so the cost of the careless driving goes back to the driver - not to the local council.
And a dent in their pride and joy may well be one form of education that will succeed. It's far better than a pedestrian in hospital.
I've seen far too many cases where a Council has listened to complaints and removed a bollard, and a pedestrian or other vulnerable road user is then injured in the same spot.
I love them too. They are everywhere in London.
Whenever I was delivering to customers who had them on the corners of their road, I refused to deliver their goods.
It was obvious the local councils didn't want trucks down there, so I was only too happy to comply.
Great opportunity to get back early
My how we chuckled when customers phoned up to complain about aborted deliveries and the extra redelivery cost.
The nemesis of the incompetent driver
@HalfTheWorldAway-gf3wg you don’t sound like a good person.
@HalfTheWorldAway-gf3wg could you not just park somewhere legally? Maybe a level of competence that exceeds your level.
@@rainbowevil No and No. No way was I going to start dragging pallets of goods over any distance just because some useless customer lives in a house unsuitable for artics.
My level of competence is way in excess of what's required, I just chose not to baby sit people who couldn't be bothered to read terms and conditions and find out what type of vehicle was suitable for their road.
Nice try at a veiled insult though.
3:12 If the cammer looks at your videos and sent it to you, you’d have thought they would learn from you, stagger on a roundabout and don’t under or over take, especially if the cars by you look hesitant.
At around 1:12 , good job by the oncoming van to wait whilst the Nissan Micra ran their red light. This demonstrates how vital it is to make sure oncoming traffic will actually stop for their red light before you make a right turn. I also recall one of Ashley's videos where he mentioned that if you are in the middle of a junction waiting to turn right, when your light turns red, it doesn't always mean the oncoming traffic will also be facing a red light. I was actually very surprised to learn this.
It's a sad fact that these clips highlight the 'norm' on our roads today. I think you are doing an excellent job of educating people into becoming defensive drivers by changing attitudes.
@johnneil4777 Yep the road use standards are rapidly declining. London is now a s'hole. So much diversity and bringing with it a diverse attitude and skill level.
What with the lawless bikeys and either hard-of-thinking or dangerous drivers, London is not a place I enjoy travelling in.
Not even safe on the busses, there is always trouble from fare-dodgers or unruly passengers.
It was never this bad 20 years ago. I think it started with the hot-hatches becoming affordable to the youth in the 90's. Then with the increased population in cities by those without the intelligence or means to afford a car, confined to two wheels, clearly demonstrating their lack of intelligence every time they pedal.
I'm glad the cyclist managed to diffuse that situation with the BMW. So many times on twitter you see a cyclist initiate a confrontation when there doesn't need to be and it just looks awful especially when they're trying to advocate for road safety.
Thank you!
It’s not worth the confrontation, I always try and diffuse the situation where possible.
@@MattCantor21 I suspect the BMW driver was wondering why you’d stopped - you seem to have stopped really far back from where the van was going to be reversing and the van was still rolling forwards at that point - though clearly you’d correctly preempted the manoeuvre.
At around 8:25 the incident between our cammer and the caravan. Another reason to behave yourself rather than try to make something of it: Even though traffic is currently free flowing at motorway speeds, you never know if there may be a standstill further up ahead. You don't then want the other driver and their passengers to get out and confront you. Similarly if you intend to stop at the next service station. And no, it's never happened to me but there have been incidents where I was glad I made it a non event, aa there was subsequently an unexpected hold up further ahead.
Agree there. Just yesterday I was coming up to 2 sets of traffic lights close together and the first set turned amber. Slowed down and came to a stop. During that time a merc driver behind me was flashing his lights and horning at me 🙄. Even if I did go past just when it went red the 2nd set of lights would have went red so basically wanted me to jump 2 red lights to save 1 minute of their journey.
The A38 clip was 100% dodgy, the only other exit is back on yourself, to Birmingham or not, they knew where they were going and wanted that car to crash into her, but IMO she had plenty of time to react and go into the empty space on her right, would be surprised if it was ruled in her favour. All the lads will most likely claim for whiplash n all that
In my view, it was dodgy because of their refusal to hand over details. As for the late exit from the dual carriage way and indecisiveness on the roundabout, if there was no reason to suspect a motive, then that would say to me that they were just unfamiliar with the location. The cammer's positioning and assumptions on the roundabout were poor and a major contribution to the incident in my view.
Why on earth did she try to pass them in that spot too made it easy for them if it was crash for cash. Stay behind or stay staggered no reason for her to be trying to overtake there, and by that I mean leave the roundabout faster than the BMW is doing. Something to try and prove? Lose lose.
Yep, seems dodgy. 4 up in a beamer. Only other exit is where they came from. The may have been genuinely lost, showing poor driving standard exiting the motorway and using the roundabout.
For a crash for cash, they would have needed far more than a minor tap & bent door. This may explain why they did not want to give details, as they needed a better crash for a claim.
Lone female driver and a four-up beamer. Cammer lady should have dialled 999 immediately, for her own safety. Even if plod do not attend, her whereabouts and beamer details would be recorded.
But how on earth did cammer-car crash into them? Beamer was clearly in her vision, in the lane she wanted to take. Maybe she is just another hard-of-thinking driver and could not think of any other option to get into that lane other than drive into the beamer.
Re at 5:22 the BMW driver not giving their details to the our cammer. I've often wondered about this in terms of what if the other driver / occupants are being aggressive or threatening? Are you still legally obliged to give a threatening party your details, including your full name and address? Or can you just call in the accident to the police with your details, the reg number of the other vehicle and they can then link the whole incident together? I certainly wouldn't want someone who I perceive to be a threat to know where I live or to know my full name.
from what i know, if you decide you are in danger being in a situation like that, call the police and give them the reg of the other car if you have it as well as your details and tell them you have driven away because you feel threatened. as long as you work with the police in the hours or days going forward it is usually fine. you can use your phone to call the police while driving if its an emergency.
By law you're supposed. Although if there's a potential threat of future retaliation due to the demeanour of the other person(s), I see no reason why you can't provide your details to the police officer attending the scene instead.
There's definitely some legal precedents that need setting to really put that one into stone though.
@@douglasreid699Report to Police as soon as you can
I don't recommend anyone to try this but it helps to learn about snow and ice on empty, unused roads or empty, closed, big car parks.
At around 9:00 and bollards again. Another bollard situation to watch out for is those retracting bollards to limit vehicle access in certain areas of city centres. You have to pull up and press the intercom to request access. If approved, they remotely lower the bollards. The issue is if a second vehicle behind then tries to follow the first one. Many cases here in Canterbury where the 2nd vehicle gets impaled on the rising bollards. There are signs warning "No tailgating" but not everyone pays attention.
There is a famous bus gate in Manchester that claimed a few vehicles tailgating a bus. You may have seen those. Apparently there was a bus gate in Peckham, South East London, and it claimed a few vehicles. It was removed after a while.
I remember the bell shaped bollard 8n Wimbledon claiming a few cars. It was in the local newspaper. Most of the readers comments sided with the bollard. 😂
That first one has the ubiquitous 'blind spot, take care' sign on the back of the lorry. I think a sign like that is better placed inside the drivers cab!
The clip around 0:56 at the mini roundabout is such a common one. I've seen countless dash cam clips of virtually identical situations that this should always put you in high alert.
There's a mini-roundabout near me in a similar layout where on-coming cars often don't give way to the right-turner like this. I'm often the one doing the right-turn, so I try and tweak my speed on approach so I'm not reaching the give-way line at the same time at the on-coming car, reducing the chance of conflict.
7:26 An example of why you don’t start silliness with complete strangers. A lot of people are far too willing to take things to the absolute extreme to prove a point. You never know what kind of psycho you’re dealing with.
@bestintheworld568 Van towing a caravan. Red flag. As-you-likies. Best just keep clear & let them do what they are going to do.
They care not if the van or caravan gets damaged. They will just go 'collect' another one.
“Care in the community” don’t forget! They could be proper mental!
2:14 cammer needs to make things like that a non-event. Porsche driver needs to learn to go right round and not change lanes like that. It is a ROUNDABOUT.
You're right but she deliberately blocked him and sped up to do so, instead of holding back for MAYBE a second to avoid an event but I guess she needed the clip.
Personally don’t get this one. If cammer used their head they should have let Porsche go and then carried on. Instead, to make a point, they try the block and waste more time. Porsche was clearly in wrong lane but who hasn’t chosen the wrong lane by accident before.
Cammer car was way too close to the blue BMW.
9:52 I hope the police have seen this and they do something about it!
Amazing how people like that seem incapable of growing up.
They won't do anything because no hurty words were said.
2:15 you saw the situation but would rather close the gap and get on the horn. People make mistakes its not that deep.
I can relate the the last clip: 4 New tires, going round a roundabout, between 15 and 20 MPH, hit black ice or diesel and wound up with my rear on the roundabout after 1 complete 360, it was scary as heck.
I had a similar thing many years ago, going round a roundabout slowly (a lot slower than I normally would as I wasn't entirely sure on my exit and there was no-one else around to hold up) and suddenly zero grip and the car just did a pirouette. It must have been oil/diesel and it was too warm for ice.
At around 2:19 I do feel multi lane roundabouts have always been problematic and I don't see it improving. Some of these are so called "spiral" roundabouts where the lane you are in takes you to your exit if you follow the original markings. There again, some of these roundabouts aren't spiral. Issues can arise when drivers aren't familiar with a particular roundabout and hence may not know at the onset whether it's spiral ir if they need to change lanes for their exit.
Think these clips are why, since the lockdowns, i have anxiety about going out on the road. No one care anymore 😢
You can keep yourself safe by driving defensively and not relying on other road users to do the right thing. Takes a bit more effort though.
It's so much worse since lockdown.
The attitude of other people is shocking now. Not just on the roads but everywhere. They all think they are special, all better than everyone else.
The clip of the Porsche in the wrong lane on the roundabout is so annoying to me. They can see he’s made a mistake, both comment on it, then close the gap and honk to make it worse 🤦♂️
I'll be a little controversial here, but the lane markings make that a dual carriageway. If the lane markings broke for a distance then it would be a roundabout, but as they are continuous and the the traffic in the other direction is separated then it's a dual carriageway. They may not have had the chance to brake hard as there could be other traffic close on their rear, hence closing the gap.
The Christmas quiz question is: which car makes do we often see making last minute exits from dual carriageways or motorways on Ashley's channel?
@@hypergolic8468the Porsche is in the inside lane crossing all lanes of traffic. They shouldn’t be allowed to do it when they can go round the roundabout again instead of making the cammer plus other cars brake
A lot of the cammers do that, and while they technically remain in the right it is also bad road manners. People do mistakes, just let it pass and move on with the day.
I agree with the sentiment. Completely different sentiment but if you enter a mini roundabout and there's a traffic to you right and you turning right but the car behind you is turning left so getting impatient. Normally I leave a gap before turning right. Yesterday I saw the right side shifting slowly so I made my way onto roundabout and then some wally starts hooting why. So impatient
@@Kenjh71yes always the ones creating lasting issues, it’d be a non issue to most of us and as the other guy says just get on with the day. These people: make sure it’s as bad as it can be, save the video, moan about it to anyone who will listen, send it into YT. Who has the time to do that?
16:00 the instinct to hit the brakes is strong when there's a loss of control, but it's so important not to touch them in this situation.
This is where cycling, in particular mountain biking, has a lot to offer drivers. You soon learn that braking on a low friction surface is a very bad idea!
This is why everyone should be forced to do skid pan training and bridge throw drills as part of the test as in some other countries. Most can’t handle the Tesco trolley stepping out let alone their car.
6:48 When a car is "brought into trade', that is bought by someone in the motor trade for further processing then, as long as the dealer handles it properly, the dealer isn't recorded as a new registered keeper. So if a car is acquired by an insurance company and then sold to a dealer for repair neither will be recorded as previous keepers on the V5. So if one was the 1st owner of a vehicle, it was written off, the written off car sold into trade and then repaired and sold retail to a member of the public the member of the public it was sold to would be recorded as the 2nd owner.
3:07 100% cammers fault.
If they were following at more than 0.5 second following distance they'd have had time to react.
Tailgating, not paying any attention to what's going on in front of them and didn't react at all to the BMW.
On their phone maybe?
The way the Blue BMW pulled up at the lights after the slip road would have had me waiting for them to clear off out of my sight before I moved off.
Can someone explain the clip starting at 8:36?
Ashley says the left lane is a "left turning lane". But the white Fiat 500 turned left, albeit starts the turn late. Was this it? Or am I missing something?
08:43
You're missing the car in front of the fiat
in july i was back driving in the UK after many years (not so much driving) in germany. multi-lane roundabouts was the area for which i most prepared myself in advance, largely with ashley's (but also others') videos. it's frightening, but not difficult, just a few simple rules to be followed. result: non events.
@andrewdigby5114 Multi-lane roundabouts would work fine if people using them could actually drive.
Similarly, spending much time away from public transport in south London, I needed to get around by bus. I was shocked by the change. Gone has polite queuing, letting the elderly on first followed by boarding in the order one has been waiting. Passengers now push & shove & just a pile-on, like we see in poorer countries and laughed at on those Clive James tv shows all those years ago.
This same diverse attitude is now evident on the roads. Just driving in any direction they want, showing no concern or consideration for others.
Certain types are attracted to particular car brands, which is why they get stereo-typed.
Bikeys in London are the worst. Probably because they account for some of the poorest of the population, without the intelligence to pass a driving test or means to buy a car. I witnessed a fat copper one night, who had obviously been sent out to police the lawless bikeys. They just rode around him, refusing his lawful orders to stop. It was quite comical to watch. Copper resorted to just shouting 'get some lights' as the lawless bikeys rode past.
@2:15 cam driver sees, has time to comment on, and still drives into the situation.
@13:15 whilst I agree about red lights and stopping, in the US that crossing wait can be 20+ minutes, due to the overly long cargo trains, hence a lot of people try to get through.
If it’s crash for cash stop making it so easy for them she had no need to try pass him there anyway wait 3 seconds until you’re off the roundabout especially given the unpredictable nature of people on roundabouts I think she was trying to prove something it being a BMW and all. Still bad driving from both of them.
I've seen plenty of drivers on roundabouts moving lanes like that BMW did, and they weren't shaping to take the same exit the cammer was. it was easily avoidable this one.
At around 1:20 perhaps a good reason for the UK follow other countries and ban parking against the traffic at all times. Currently it's only illegal at night. Interestingly, the Uk driving test includes pulling up and parking on the right, as if to actually encourage this practice.
This clip was particularly bad, as the offending car crossed over immediately after turning into the side street. And into a taxi bay no less, though they don't appear to be a taxi.
12:25 fitting a phone mount to the steering wheel whilst driving will not fall foul of the handheld mobile phone use legislation, but will be illegal as a vehicle accessory that interferes with the ability to have proper control of the vehicle:
Road Vehicles Construction and Use: "104. No person shall drive or cause or permit any other person to drive, a motor vehicle on a road if he is in such a position that he cannot have proper control of the vehicle or have a full view of the road and traffic ahead.
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One of the favourite places for people to dump Lyme hire bikes locally is on the tactile paving in front of a light controlled pedestrian crossing by the way out of the local Morrisons supermarket. Y'know, the bit of paving put there specifically to help blind people navigate. You couldn't cause more inconvenience and risk if you actively tired.
10:50 Always like Ashley using my clips - Thank You! The bin lorry was too close to the car in front. I think the road markings possibly confused the two old ladies in the car. A scary moment for them. I had an artic behind and made quick decision not to stop incase a)the artic couldn't/didn't stop in time and b)the artic would be more visible to traffic behind while the car sorted itself out with a little reverse.
Thanks for sending in!
maybe i'm just cynical and watch too much tv but the way that Renault was being driven at 01:21 is almost like its stolen... occupants splitting off in opposite directions and they don't seem to lock the vehicle behind them either
Yeah can see where you're coming from with him. Although all three occupants go in the same direction around the corner (although it does look at first like the fellow on the phone got out the car, but he hadn't), plus the driver locks the car remotely with his keys.
So probably not stolen, but terrible driving!
That very first clip with the HGV mounting the bollard. I've seen similar with an Audi in the picturesque village of Woodstock just outside Blenheim Palace. They were turning a sharp corner in the village and didn't see the low bollard. In tbe Audi's case, they didn't actually mount the bollard but did some rather expensive looking damage to rve side of their car.
The last clip is exactly why more people should get skid plate training.
Also, the person coming down the wrong side of the road reminds me of when I was going down a country road and came up to a Range Rover. I sat still, as they only had to reverse 5 metres, compared to my 50 metres, round a corner, with another car behind me. I just crossed my arms until they moved
@ 1'56....have you ever been round the Sherrifhall roundabout where the A1 meets the A720 City Bypass? It's carnage between 6 and 9 in the morning and 4 and 6 in the evening. Given that it's one of the main routes into the Royal Infirmary for emergency ambulances, many drivers are totally oblivious to blues and twos coming their way, probably because they're on the phone or fiddling with the satnav.
The clip at at 3:00 was hard to watch, it was clear the blue car wasnt entirely sure where they were going for enough time before the crash to know to expect the unexpected from the blue car
And it seemed as if zero attempt to stop/avoid a crash was made by the camera car..
I noticed a lot of the roundabouts near me have turned into spiral roundabouts and people are confused by them, because you can effectively go right from the left lane.
7:43 that lane change would have *just* have been fine but for the caravan. They probably "forgot" they were towing and are twice as long.
Ah yes, the chaos of Garretts Green road as it joins the Meadway at 12:38. It's just utter chaos at the best of times. There's so many junctions in the lead up to the roundabout, when the roundabout inevitably gets busy and people try to cut their way through the queue of traffic to join one of the smaller roads. It's probably one of the tamer things I've seen on there.
12:40 - the clip with the on-coming silver car turning right in front of the cammer. Going by the road markings it looks like that road the car is turning into could be a one-way road, so they wouldn't be cutting the corner if that was the case. My geoguessr skills aren't enough to work out where this is to work out if it is one-way. Mind you, the turn was a bit tight time-wise for the cammer.
I'm always wary of vans towing caravans
They're usually driven by people who travel.
1:10 is in Hastings my home town, I see that learner car regulararly driven around without a learner in the car to the point its more a personal car than a working learner vehicle. They will often carelessly drove on roundabouts ignoring lanes or pulling out on vehicles already on the roundabout.
I don't think the second clip had anything to do with the A pillar. I think it was more to do with the cammer being on a bicycle, and the driver thinking of cyclists as 'Lesser road users'
lorry drivers use to be good until requirements was reduced, and the multi lane roundabout... ye i get the porsche should go around again but the cam driver attitude of "make it worse" is one of the biggest problem on our roads. could have backed off abit and everything would have gone smoothly .... they COULD NOT WAIT to hit the save recording button over NOTHING... 4:57 cam driver got horse blinders on or somehing, say what you like about the bmw's mistakes that was shockingly poor
100% agree, well said for all of it. These people don’t drive defensively and therefore are not good drivers.
The hired bikes are an obstruction and a hazard on the highway, not just an eyesore. There needs to be responsive infrastructure for this, or a rethink of the entire scheme until it's properly thought through and supported!
14:00 to enter shaw ridge centre here you've got to do a 180 at a round about to come back and enter on the right side of the road as its a slip road type entry.
I disagree about the crash for cash. For the simple reason that the accident was too easily avoided and the BMW didn't do anything aggressive like sudden braking to make the accident more likely.
4:52 yikes following way too close imo
11:35.. I Get this all the time, you hold back because there is an issue in front and people behind get impatient because the only thing they are looking at is your rear bumper.
The clip with the lad hanging out of the Golf throwing things - was he throwing eggs? I saw on a local Facebook group (my parent's area) that a few drivers were getting their cars egged while driving along, obviously causing distress and danger when it hits the windscreen. Maybe there's some sort of daft viral online thing going around encouraging people to throw eggs at people? It's a shame John Prescott isn't around any more to sort them out!
The thing that scares me the most is the fact that a lot of drivers genuinely believe they're driving correctly. There's two sections in my daily commute that always has people in the ring lane.
With the opening clip, I guess the HGV driver is looking at his drivers side to see if he can get past the cars while not paying attention to the passenger side, he should have been well aware of the bell shaped bollard on approach to that junction. I feel they should have been more over in the right lane to make that turn but then the risk is that cars will try to pass on the left.
I had a similar skid in heavy snow some years back. While driving probably less than 10mph (I knew it was bad), I came to a slight left hand bend, and yet I slowed by taking my foot off the accelerator, and did not touch the brake. Despite this, I still did 270, and mounted the pavement in a T reg Escort, knocking a tyre off on the drivers side through hitting the curb sideways.
Also, your clip with the caravan - I think the driver might not have had full control as he turned his head to argue with the van driver. It's possible he didn't keep the wheel straight.
What's the best way to send in a clip? If I try via email it says file size too big.
You'd have to use a service like iCloud or google photos, which allows you to send a share link to others.
The first mini roundabout has a double dashed line and clear give way sign . Conflicting information the other side has no give way, yet it has a roundabout sign.
On that stretch of road they put the give way sign to doubly remind people the main road doesn't have priority and to give way to the joining road on the right.
There's also about 15 mini roundabouts in a mile along there!
Re the clip of the car turning off from lane 4. I’m convinced with some drivers of some cars that late exits are due to them wanting to be in the outside lane for as long as possible because it’s beneath them to be in any other lane and going “slower” with the plebs.
8:37 the NFB (Normal For Bridgwater) boy racers. That was my clip 😁👍
13:15 the rig in the US at the railway crossing? Seeing how much braking SUV and trailer combo had to apply to get stopped I wonder if the tractor and semi could actually have pulled up safely in time/space?? Looks like abt 8 seconds from the point the lights begin to flash to the artic appearing in shot. Looks as though no attempt to brake was made and that might just have been the driver's best option in this situation?
People have always struggled on the multi lane roundabouts. You'd think it would be easy to realise if your crossing a line your changing lanes ... but no. It is easy to get in the wrong lane. It's often only painted on the road a few car lengths before the roundabout and when there's traffic you can find yourself stuck in the wrong lane. But if its busy just go the wrong way and come back 🤷♂️
In the late 1970s, when I first drove cars on the road, and through most of the 1980s, there was some pleasure from simply driving. Politeness, situational awareness, and common sense has declined to a point where any longer journey is now a crash avoidance marathon.
I have every intention of not running a car at all when I can claim the State Pension, in not too long ...
I'll let my License lapse when it is due for renewal at age 70.
If I cannot make enough saving from VED, fuel, servicing and insurance to cover the occasional taxi to the train or bus station, I'll tailer my number of journeys to be affordable. I gave up cycling two years ago after fifty-five years, but I only live a mile from all essential shops for daily life. When or if I can no longer walk a mile, I'll get groceries delivered!
Best wishes from George
a popular thing near me is to have right hand on steering wheel at 10, fingers of left hand loosely attached to steering wheel at 4 so they can hold phone in the palm of hand and use thumb to scroll.
In the first clip, it doesnt help that the pickup driver is stopped on the crossing, making the turn tighter for the lorry . The black car behind also proceeds instead of allowing them to complete the manoeuvre.
Unfortunately that happens a lot. Some car drivers don't give HGV drivers time to make maneuvers. Some motorcyclists are worse. One time as I'm turning left at a mini roundabout, a motorcycle passed me on the left. If i didn't stop he would be under the HGV.
Hi Ashley, thanks for the clips and happy Xmas. When you mentioned the "bicycle eyesore", I noticed the horrific manoeuvre as the motorcycle squeezed between the traffic island and the vehicle (Merc?).
Straight-lining multilane roundabouts when there's other traffic around seems to be a perennial problem.
4:50 onwards. Yes a subscription to car vertical would be handy in suspected crash for cash situations to tend one's mindset from the polite and helpful (regardless of fault) to the guarded and aloof. A car that has many people in, driven poorly and with a five or more recent history of dings, scrapes etc. has to ring alarm bells. Nice logic there Ashley. That being said a front and rear dash cam is the ultimate. It may be supposition but it appears to me that boyo was checking for a dash cam and knowing evidence exists they knew it was a dud and wanted to get away without giving any details. Again entirely supposition, but the circumstance do fit. Sorry for the trouble the lady has been caused!
0:48 given the cyclist said "unbelievable", I'm presuming they gave a good clear right turn signal for long enough before turning, so this comment isn't directly about that clip, but more of a general observation.
I've noticed there seems to be a trend of very poor signalling now (not to mention no signal).
When I was taught how to ride on the road, the signal was a fully extended arm held out at 90 degrees (so it's parallel to the ground) and done early enough and held for long enough for other road users to see and react to it, at least 3 seconds, preferably much longer, basically until you need to put your hand back on the handlebar for control in the turn.
What I often see other cyclists doing now (if they bother signalling at all) is a subtle, lazy, signal. They take their hand off the bar and extend the elbow so the arm is straight (or maybe slightly bent), but don't lift it very far, if at all, so it's pointing down towards the ground alongside them, maybe 30 degrees, rarely 45, and it's often not held for very long either. It's almost as if they don't want the drivers to notice, or maybe they just think most drivers are much more observant then they actually are!
Even if you position and signal well, some drivers don't seem to notice, so riders who signal like this have next to no chance of having their signal seen.
12:57 Yet another occasion where some awareness of, or reaction to, the road markings changing to closer spacing is needed. Never fails to surprise me the number of people who seemingly don't understand what the road markings are trying to tell them.
This clips will help me so much when I eventually cross the channel for a trip in the UK.
In the roundabout clip at around 2:19, I do feel the cammer could have helped the other car by simply holding back, as opposed to "putting the squeeze" on them and sounding their horn extensively. Make it a non event, right?
The woman who sent the video in of her crashing into the BMW on the roundabout was at fault in my opinion. Driving too close, exiting when it was clearly unsafe to do so and she was therefore the proximate cause of the collision. The BMW was in the wrong lane, but had the woman not tried to exit when there was a car in the way then it wouldn't have happened.
Roundabout collisions are almost always settled 50/50 anyway, and this will be no different. One car proceeding around in the wrong lane, one car exiting when it was unsafe to do so.
A professor in anger said that if you try to create the perfect scenario for anger it would look exactly like driving!!!!
Last clip: I was just thinking "keep your foot off the brake" ...it is oh so difficult to do but necessary in these situations.
Multi-lane roundabouts: - IMHO, always been a problem. This is part of the reason (im guessing) that theyve tried to paint lane markings that show you where to go. Not that the majority seem to see them. Add in some modern impatience and entitlement - I'm sort of surprised there arent more accidents. And yes, I've been in lane 4 and wated to to turn left - went around the roundabout again.
The blue beamer: Can't say it occurred to me that it was a crash for cash. I just thought stupid driver. But on replaying the clip, it looks as if he had the brakes on to position his car "just-so". Add in the motorway footage as well - now I can see your point.
Red Lights: Not just the US obviously. But why would you jump a crossing when you might have 10s of thousands of tonnes of freight train heading towards you? By the time the driver of the train could have seen an obstruction it would be too late to stop and news footage shows wreckage of the train and nearby towns can be biblical as a result.
Todays biggest problem is "must get in front". Not "must get to destination alive and in one piece". Dont engage with them is right. If they dont care about their own safety they are not going to care about anyone else.
this is the lorry tht comes down my street everyday
A lot of analysis on the blue BMW roundabout collision, essentially it was the cammers fault, too close and impatient.
In the 'Analysis Clip' the alarm bells rang for me with BMW driver's positioning at the lights. Their lane discipline appeared unpredictable and I'd have been dropping way back from them 'expecting the unexpected'.
That black ice clip is not far from being exactly how I wrote my first ever new car off about 9 months after I’d paid the finance off! Taught the younger me an expensive and quite painful lesson, luckily it was just me the ditch and very sturdy fence involved!
1:49 municiple bikes and scooters…. Axiomatic truth, ‘anything’s that is municipal will not be looked after and will get abused’
Therefore if you have things like this you need to employ people to control the equipment. [having an unsupervised station where the public can pick up and drop off will always become a problem]
Re changes of ownership, insurers don't become registered keepers when they retain ownership after full settlement. They're owned 'in trade' until such time as they're scrapped or repaired and sold.
The yob throwing stuff at pedestrians at 9:23 may have induced me to call 999 to give plod a chance of catching the passenger as well as the driver. I was once hit by a glass bottle thrown from a van and would have been very grateful to someone being a good citizen.
1:50 those hired bikes aren’t an eyesore. They’re a hazard to pedestrians who now need to walk on the road to pass them, and they’re a huge obstacle for disabled- imagine a fully blind person finding these with their cane and trying to work out what’s there, and how they can safely get round them? Or how far a wheelchair user now needs to backtrack up the road to find a dropped kerb to cross the road? Not far in this case, but potentially much further in others
Country road, amber strobe lights. I wonder if that was a highways vehicle ?
16:03 in this situation, slowly let off the accelerator, and do not under any circumstances even tap the brakes. just countersteer.