According to people who were in these recording sessions, Yoko decided that this killa version shouldn't be used because it made it seem that the guys from Cheap Trick were 'stealing John's thunder'....What a load of BS but that's from Yoko and she's full of that stuff.
It was on the John Lennon Anthology 4 disc box set, along (IIRC) 1 other track from the sessions. From what I have understood they tracked like 8 tracks, but only the couple that made it to this has ever made it out of the vault. Cheap Trick themselves rerecorded this version in 1997 (or 1996) during the rerecording sessions of In Color with Steve Albini, and it sounds awesome. Not sure why that album never got released too, because Cheap Trick sounds raw like this track did too. Also the only reason this video was even made, was as promotion for the 4 Cd Anthology box set, as it was the only standout that could hit rock radio to promote it. I guess Yoko finally saw a monetary value in letting Cheap Trick and Tony Levin "steal Johns thunder" as @flashflame4952 has also stated. Or maybe the label told Yoko without a single they weren't going to promote it and used this?? Anyways the Anthology is now out of print and not even available on streaming, so maybe a certain type of site if you want to get that download lol. But being honest, I got it when it came out, and about half of each disc is rubbish, but tells the story of John's whirlwind 70 segmented in about 2.5yr periods each quarter. There are original Real Love, and Free as a Bird tracks that were released on the Beatles Anthology import singles prior, but a lot of other different cuts of other tracks as well. If you would like to hear the badass Cheap Trick version of this recorded in 1997 with Steve Albini, it's absolutely awesome, and queued up for you below, would love to hear your thoughts on it! It's worth an entire spin, especially the last 3 tracks that were polished mixes, and that was all we got: th-cam.com/video/6bsT3EWlsJM/w-d-xo.html
This is AWESOME. Cheap Trick was the sh*t back then and Tony Levin is a session God. I caught one of his pics at a Peter Gabriel concert. This raw sound is how I wish the whole Double Fantasy sounded
Never knew this existed till late 2022, 42 years later. Sounds great, too bad he didn’t use these guys for the whole album. It was great to hear his voice in what was a new version for me.
They got the gig through the producer Jack Douglas...who recommended them to him. Jack Douglas has originally discovered them and at the time they were trying to get Lennon to produce their first album. (When he met them at the sessions for this he said he would have loved to)...When the first appeared John said to Rick something like "Oh...it's you!" because he thought that Jack Douglas had hired Rick NELSON!!!!!..:)...I thought they were great with him. They also covered Gimme Some Truth
From what I've read and heard, this is the version John had originally intended for the Double Fantasy album. But, Yoko, supposedly, at least, objected because she thought they, Cheap Trick, was trying to "ride John's coattails" to game, not realizing that they had already had a following, having previously opened for Queen, Santana, Kiss and the Kinks. Of course, being known for recording and appearing on record with John Lennon wouldn't have given them a boost.
Surprised they never even tried to release this version as a single. Also I really gotta commend the animators here for how they were able to bring John’s drawings to life in such buttery smooth and satisfying quality
I can't believe this is the only copy of this version on youtube, this should be uploaded with better quality to John's official channel, it's the best version of the song!. there are lots of copies of the slower version with excellent quality, this one deserves at least an audio only or lyrics video upload with full quality.
I recall seeing the articles in Rolling Stone in the first part of 1980,saying that Lennon was prepping for a new album,ostensibly,with Cheap Trick as his core back-up unit...this just goes to show how good an idea that would have been....pity that this is all that's seen the light of day,after all of this time.
I remember exactly where I was and exactly what I was doing when I heard Lennon was killed. I also remember weeping. So much was stolen from so many. RIH John. Say hello to George for me.
It's Rick Nielson & Bun E. Tony Levin on Bass Playing On a John Lennon Song ( By request ) If, it was 79' & John and Ringo played on a CT Album, it (Wouldn't say)... "With the Beatles " .
Jack Douglas produced an album or two for Cheap Trick and brought them in when he produced Lennon's Double Fantasy. This version was released on a Lennon box set from a few years back. Nice to hear he could still ROCK.
Esta versión es fantástica! Por culpa de Yoko esta versión estuvo perdida durante mucho tiempo y ,sin embargo, fue la otra versión la que se hizo famosa.
Wish John used this compressed mix for his vocals more often, he so many times used echo or double tracking. This sounds much better and raw, you're still the greatest John
I was reading about him and apparently he didn't like his voice so he had George Martin fix tracks. The Beatles' producer, George Martin, tells how Lennon "had an inborn dislike of his own voice which I could never understand. He was always saying to me: 'DO something with my voice! ... put something on it ... Make it different.'" Martin obliged, often using double-tracking and other techniques.
It's because his voice lacks width, he has a great voice but it doesn't fill space very well without adding vocal layers, or reverb. My guess is this hasn't even been compressed very much. It sounds closer to a live recording with a tiny bit of reverb
Yes, John was cutting the Double Fantasy album with producer Jack Douglas-Jack felt this song and another needed a more aggressive feel, so he brought Rick and Bun E in (Jack had produced CT before). The end result is great-live in the studio, with a guide vocal-you can hear John count the changes in for the band in parts. He apparently asked them to stay and do another song the next day, but they had to leave for a Japanese tour.
That is not true. They just came in one day and this version didn’t sound good to them in the end (and they rejected it). Why put crap rehearsals on albums? There is nothing wrong with the album version.
I love them both, but you know how it is when you hear it for the first time and it just stays in your head. It sure is nice to hear a different take...especially with John's different vocal and arrangement. Awesome!!!!...Super thanks for sharing!!!!
Thanks for the reply...it got me to come back and listen again...see all the other comments...wish they had released it back then...B side maybe...oh well, at least it's finally out there now!
They could have alternated John Lennon / Cheap Trick tracks too instead of Yoko. Could you imagine John Lennon as the front man for Cheap Trick? He was missing a band that could push his songs that extra mile into masterpiece territory, and they were missing strong song writing.
From Wikipedia: "Lennon was impressed enough with their performance that Lennon told Carlos that he wished Nielsen had been his 2nd guitarist for "Cold Turkey'."
I'm Losing You John Lennon Here in some stranger's room Late in the afternoon What am I doing here at all? Ain't no doubt about it I'm losing you Somehow the wires have crossed Communication's lost Can't even get you on the telephone Just got to shout about it I'm losing you Here in the valley of indecision I don't know what to do I feel you slipping away I feel you slipping away I'm losing you I'm losing you You say you're not getting enough But I remind you of all that bad stuff So what the hell am I supposed to do? Just put…
John's voice was made for rock and also heavy. His attitude too.
It's unbelievable that this version was never released, it's an absolute gem!
According to people who were in these recording sessions, Yoko decided that this killa version shouldn't be used because it made it seem that the guys from Cheap Trick were 'stealing John's thunder'....What a load of BS but that's from Yoko and she's full of that stuff.
La mejor versión de la canción.
It was released in the late 90s I had the cd, and I lost the cd in my divorce, the irony. 😂
It was on the John Lennon Anthology 4 disc box set, along (IIRC) 1 other track from the sessions. From what I have understood they tracked like 8 tracks, but only the couple that made it to this has ever made it out of the vault. Cheap Trick themselves rerecorded this version in 1997 (or 1996) during the rerecording sessions of In Color with Steve Albini, and it sounds awesome. Not sure why that album never got released too, because Cheap Trick sounds raw like this track did too.
Also the only reason this video was even made, was as promotion for the 4 Cd Anthology box set, as it was the only standout that could hit rock radio to promote it. I guess Yoko finally saw a monetary value in letting Cheap Trick and Tony Levin "steal Johns thunder" as @flashflame4952 has also stated. Or maybe the label told Yoko without a single they weren't going to promote it and used this?? Anyways the Anthology is now out of print and not even available on streaming, so maybe a certain type of site if you want to get that download lol. But being honest, I got it when it came out, and about half of each disc is rubbish, but tells the story of John's whirlwind 70 segmented in about 2.5yr periods each quarter. There are original Real Love, and Free as a Bird tracks that were released on the Beatles Anthology import singles prior, but a lot of other different cuts of other tracks as well.
If you would like to hear the badass Cheap Trick version of this recorded in 1997 with Steve Albini, it's absolutely awesome, and queued up for you below, would love to hear your thoughts on it! It's worth an entire spin, especially the last 3 tracks that were polished mixes, and that was all we got:
th-cam.com/video/6bsT3EWlsJM/w-d-xo.html
It's unbelievable that they pussied out so hard on this mix.
I absolutely love this version. The power and raw emotion are beautifully captured here. Rick and Bun are awesome with John.
Rick, Bun E. and Tony; still alive and rockin' in 2024. 😎🎸 John is still smiling from above. 😇🎸
Wish it was louder. This version rocks
The world lost John Lennon 43 years ago today to a POS. John will live in our hearts and mine forever. Imagine Peace. ❤ ✌️
Haven't heard John's voice in awhile and hearing it now makes me miss him all over again:(
Know that feeling 😢
que onda
With Cheap Trick AND Tony Levin.
Don't leave the legend out!
The original bass player of the Double Fantasy sessions
Bun E. Must have had a blast playing with Levin!
This version is my favorite Lennon solo song.
I prefer the album version. He sounds better. This is like a rehearsal and it sounds shit.
@@Ye110wjacketwho cares
This is AWESOME. Cheap Trick was the sh*t back then and Tony Levin is a session God. I caught one of his pics at a Peter Gabriel concert. This raw sound is how I wish the whole Double Fantasy sounded
Holy crap this is good. I’m a big fan of both and somehow missed this.
Never knew this existed till late 2022, 42 years later. Sounds great, too bad he didn’t use these guys for the whole album. It was great to hear his voice in what was a new version for me.
They got the gig through the producer Jack Douglas...who recommended them to him. Jack Douglas has originally discovered them and at the time they were trying to get Lennon to produce their first album. (When he met them at the sessions for this he said he would have loved to)...When the first appeared John said to Rick something like "Oh...it's you!" because he thought that Jack Douglas had hired Rick NELSON!!!!!..:)...I thought they were great with him. They also covered Gimme Some Truth
Have you heard the awesome Steve Albini remake of "In Color"? There's a bonus version of this song on there as well...
From what I've read and heard, this is the version John had originally intended for the Double Fantasy album. But, Yoko, supposedly, at least, objected because she thought they, Cheap Trick, was trying to "ride John's coattails" to game, not realizing that they had already had a following, having previously opened for Queen, Santana, Kiss and the Kinks. Of course, being known for recording and appearing on record with John Lennon wouldn't have given them a boost.
@@lorrianehancock-martinez7948 sounds about right
What could have been.... breaks my heart just thinking about it .
Surprised they never even tried to release this version as a single.
Also I really gotta commend the animators here for how they were able to bring John’s drawings to life in such buttery smooth and satisfying quality
epic cut..the compression the clean riff, the solid beat, just epic
60, first time hearin this- niiiiice, damn is he so missed! ❤🦋🙏
I can't believe this is the only copy of this version on youtube, this should be uploaded with better quality to John's official channel, it's the best version of the song!. there are lots of copies of the slower version with excellent quality, this one deserves at least an audio only or lyrics video upload with full quality.
With Uncle Tony Levin on bass!
A killer version for sure.
🐉💀👽🎸🎶🎵🧠
Fucking incredible job with john's drawings in animation!!!!
I recall seeing the articles in Rolling Stone in the first part of 1980,saying that Lennon was prepping for a new album,ostensibly,with Cheap Trick as his core back-up unit...this just goes to show how good an idea that would have been....pity that this is all that's seen the light of day,after all of this time.
Hands down the best version of this song. Wish Cheap Trick had made double fantasy. Wish this were re uploaded in HD
I’m not liking it at all!!! I had high hopes.
Indeed it is easily the best version. Unfortunately, yoko managed to screw it up.
This is a great version with half of Cheap Trick!
Les pareció que no iba a gustar esta versión.
Es una de las mejores canciones de Lennon.
Y esta es la mejor interpretación.
Por lejos.
Raw Rock is good medicine for my soul.
Tony Levin!
One of my fave tracks EVER. I mean, how can you not love John Lennon & 1/2 of CT?!
I remember exactly where I was and exactly what I was doing when I heard Lennon was killed. I also remember weeping. So much was stolen from so many. RIH John. Say hello to George for me.
I was 5 years old when John Lennon was shot dead in 1980 it's still painful memories 41 years later
wOW.this song and video just made my week.......lennon and tricksters sound great !!!
This has got SUCH a "Cold Turkey" feel to it.
Happy 80th Birthday John!
Thank you Tony Levin!
Oh man
I am blown away
Fantastic version and a great song
I love this version.
Just superb.
Lennon, and Cheap Trick. It doesn't get any better for me.
Brilliant
Brilliant
It's Rick Nielson & Bun E.
Tony Levin on Bass Playing On a John Lennon Song ( By request ) If, it was 79' & John and Ringo played on a CT Album, it (Wouldn't say)... "With the Beatles " .
Bloody Brilliant!
@@soundpainter2590
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c'est la version original prévue pour l'album, malheureusement écartée durant des années Superbe!
Skvělá písnička a skvělý klip 👍😀❤️
Amazing !!! I love it !!!
Cheap trick a great band
Bun E Carlos, a very under rated drummer indeed
No Bun E Carlos = No Cheap Trick.
I like DAX over the back beat king🏁🏁🏁🏁
Jack Douglas produced an album or two for Cheap Trick and brought them in when he produced Lennon's Double Fantasy. This version was released on a Lennon box set from a few years back. Nice to hear he could still ROCK.
Yes. 24 years back.
Esta versión es fantástica! Por culpa de Yoko esta versión estuvo perdida durante mucho tiempo y ,sin embargo, fue la otra versión la que se hizo famosa.
simplemente el mejor, nunca dejara de sorprenderme su gran talento y encanto, lo amo !!!!
Lennon donde quieras q estes enviame un poco de tu talento y encanto
Wish John used this compressed mix for his vocals more often, he so many times used echo or double tracking. This sounds much better and raw, you're still the greatest John
I was reading about him and apparently he didn't like his voice so he had George Martin fix tracks. The Beatles' producer, George Martin, tells how Lennon "had an inborn dislike of his own voice which I could never understand. He was always saying to me: 'DO something with my voice! ... put something on it ... Make it different.'" Martin obliged, often using double-tracking and other techniques.
I didn’t mind the echo usually, but the double tracking could sometimes be annoying.
It's because his voice lacks width, he has a great voice but it doesn't fill space very well without adding vocal layers, or reverb. My guess is this hasn't even been compressed very much. It sounds closer to a live recording with a tiny bit of reverb
That was Phil Spector's fault. He produced John's solo work.
Except for all the ones he didn't produce.
Amazing
Yes, John was cutting the Double Fantasy album with producer Jack Douglas-Jack felt this song and another needed a more aggressive feel, so he brought Rick and Bun E in (Jack had produced CT before). The end result is great-live in the studio, with a guide vocal-you can hear John count the changes in for the band in parts. He apparently asked them to stay and do another song the next day, but they had to leave for a Japanese tour.
Bun E told me he got Johns autograph during this session....
Rick Nielsen's wife gave birth the day this was recorded...so he spent that time playing with Lennon then went to tour Japan? What a total cunt.
That is not true. They just came in one day and this version didn’t sound good to them in the end (and they rejected it). Why put crap rehearsals on albums? There is nothing wrong with the album version.
Bun E has an autographed sheet music of this song
I love them both, but you know how it is when you hear it for the first time and it just stays in your head. It sure is nice to hear a different take...especially with John's different vocal and arrangement. Awesome!!!!...Super thanks for sharing!!!!
Very cool! Thank you for taking the time to answer...nothing like a bit of music history!
Awsomeness
Thanks for the reply...it got me to come back and listen again...see all the other comments...wish they had released it back then...B side maybe...oh well, at least it's finally out there now!
La mejor versión que he escuchado
I didn't know about that video at all. I love it. 4 of my all-time favourite musicians together.
This is awesome.
What a band this would have been..Lennon Cheap Trick and Tony Levin !
Much better than the LP version. Should have done the whole LP with these guys.
No. No.
They could have alternated John Lennon / Cheap Trick tracks too instead of Yoko. Could you imagine John Lennon as the front man for Cheap Trick? He was missing a band that could push his songs that extra mile into masterpiece territory, and they were missing strong song writing.
EPextendedplay John’s songs are in the masterpiece territory
Awesome version
shame this configuration (Lennon, Nielsen, Carlos, Levin) could not work on additional recordings and albums. Seemed to work well.
They were going to tour together.....
Except Any Newmark is such a better drummer.
@@juliosanchez8263 You know what they say about opinions...
*Much, mucH, muCH, mUCH, MUCH BETTER VERSION, DAMN IT!!!!*
Very Nice Indeed. Great Version. Gx
Sounds "Cold Turkeyish"
From Wikipedia: "Lennon was impressed enough with their performance that Lennon told Carlos that he wished Nielsen had been his 2nd guitarist for "Cold Turkey'."
I thought the same thing as soon as it started
I always loved this version
Totally rocks
This is how Lennon would have sounded Live if he'd lived to go on Tour in 1981.
my favorite song on Double Fantasy. I miss John so much
Makes me want to dig my guitars out and learn it.
Love this version.
This rocks!
Wonder what they would do with "I Found Out," which was pretty hot in the original (great Klaus Voormann bass line).
thats a good one ! bless !
Interesting version of one of my Lennon faves
El más grande.
I was surprised this was never a hit. I also liked Ono s moving on which followed on l P.
This is the best version! Love Love Love!
Un version actualizada en 1998 recuerdo que la veia en un canal musical del cable muy bueno que ya no existe
This one sounds so much more organic. The double fantasy version sounds a bit too...clean? I don't know.Still a great tune though!
41 years.
This version should of been on the album!
Yoko didn't like it....
I like it but it doesn't fit. Sounds too much like the Cold Turkey riff
with the harder guitar
Oh hell yes! The Double Fantasy version is very good, but this one kills it.
Yoko ruining all 😑
@@twinray27 No, their management intervened.
I'm Losing You
John Lennon
Here in some stranger's room
Late in the afternoon
What am I doing here at all?
Ain't no doubt about it
I'm losing you
Somehow the wires have crossed
Communication's lost
Can't even get you on the telephone
Just got to shout about it
I'm losing you
Here in the valley of indecision
I don't know what to do
I feel you slipping away
I feel you slipping away
I'm losing you
I'm losing you
You say you're not getting enough
But I remind you of all that bad stuff
So what the hell am I supposed to do?
Just put…
GOOD ONE - got to shout about it
Musica levada praticamente só com uma guitarra. Show!
Hermosa version.
Tony Levin!!!!
Like it a lot
He should have made the whole album sound like this
Cheap Lennon is the friggin' shit. 🎸
me encanta
Wish Lennon was in the video with them!
Essential John Lennon
Tony levinl is one of the baddest baseball players of all time checking out an elephant talk"
Like this version way more.
Way better than the Double Fantasy version.
Yes, way better than the DF album version!!!
agreed!!!!
beatleneil I agree!
no?
This version has balls and grit. Other version is good but it's definitely missing the hard edge John brought to the Beatles.
Thanks
LENNON FOREVER
Great
GD that's good. Bun E rules.
From máster lennon R.I.P my idol before rockstars from 90's great songs forever lennon live now!!!!
Love this version with CT.
Song is over 40 years old and sounds so fresh. 😎👍🏻👍🏻
Better then lotsa CRAP of today ! 🙄
Okay boomer
@@SuperZap12345 GET LOST !!🙄👎
@@massapower Okay, Boomer.
@@CleepisDBepis Okay Milenual 😏👎
There’s bad and good music in every generation, my friend. Look harder for good modern music and you’ll find it.