Those who say that this performance is not good, they even know what is the meaning of this piece? If you want acrobats go to the circus... Tou need to know about the piece first to know if performance is good or not. This is a very good performance of a Liszt Master.
Maestro Arrau created one of most beautiful moment in which he put so much fresh interpretation in his own tempo. The climax was so *transparent* unlike i heard from other maestros
Exactement. Claudio Arrau retranscrit à merveille cette atmosphère divine et poétique qu'il y a dans la musique de Franz Liszt. La façon dont il plaque les accords, ça fait lever les yeux vers le ciel, et les notes émanent une lumière vraiment incroyable. J'apprécie personnellement aussi bien les interprétations de Vladimir Horowitz, assez excentriques il est vrai, sachant qu'il faisait lui-même ses propres arrangements. Disons que Horowitz et Arrau avaient des avis qui divergent quant à l'idée d'interprétation. Le premier pense qu'il s'agit de mêler son propre coeur et faire une osmose avec le compositeur, tout en s'exprimant soi-même. Pour Arrau, l'interprète n'est qu'un "porte-parole" en quelques sortes. Bref, je divague !
I don't know, why the algorithm shows this interpretation first when searching for Vallee d'Obermann. It is really a very clear performance. But also very boring: tempi really slow, not much dynamic and completely un-romantic. Compared to the only Horowitz-recording available, definitely not an alternative, althought Horowitz has changed some small parts of the score (which Liszt also did quite often in his performances). This is such a colorful work. Arrau often does take-apart the music instead of letting it flow. For me, Horowitz' interpretation is the most interesting one. He works out colors and harmonics, which Arrau just point at. Arrau is playing quite "angular", Horowitz "round" and smoothly. It is common sence, that in romantic music one can vary tempi, dynamics etc. to underline the emotional aspect of music. Horowitz does it perfectly, Arrau plays it like an accountant who counts notes. For me it does not fit to this piece. Some examples: A tempo measure 51: th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html Recitativo: th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs. th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html Lento 1: th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html Lento 2: th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs. th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html (listen to the bass notes, Horowitz piano-singing-magic, Arrau craftsman). Arrau is varying the tempo so often: th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs. th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html
I'm pretty sure you know that Arrau was a student of a student of Liszt himself, it deserves probably to give this interpretation a little more credit :D, even though everybody has his own taste ! For sure Arrau playing is less demonstrative than Horowitz, it touches me deeply ! And what a beautiful sound he has
@@trollslendtoribash318 The point is that he expresses his opinion in a derogatory way, which, to begin with, and to finish, his very personal 'judgement" might be there just to say something "shocking" about an artist . As if the fact of daring to despise what an artist does would give you authority ... moreover if the artist is a beloved and respected one ... What I meant is, who cares about what this poor guy (see his nickname!) thinks, probably nobody, whereas many, lots of people care and have cared for Arrau.
Those who say that this performance is not good, they even know what is the meaning of this piece? If you want acrobats go to the circus... Tou need to know about the piece first to know if performance is good or not. This is a very good performance of a Liszt Master.
Totally agree with you. The best version for me. Because he take the time to play all the party. We can hear the violin sometimes … ❤
My favorite piece of all and for many many years. Arrau shows his great touch!
His crystal clear but the warmest tone is always marvelous. His chords never shatter away even at fortissimo.
Fabulous. Arrau is one of the very greatest.
This is BY FAR the best interpretation of this piece.
Nyiregyházi?
@@dyadichorrible
@@dyadic that's the worst one out there literally💀💀
This is magnificent. I'd throw in Bolet, though (the studio recording). Nyiregházi is indeed awful.
Maestro Arrau created one of most beautiful moment in which he put so much fresh interpretation in his own tempo. The climax was so *transparent* unlike i heard from other maestros
it's only me, or the melody the 12:40 is almost the same in the 8th trascendental etude??? that's the most incredible part... no words
always thought this!! The middle section of Wilde Jagd is so similar
Mazzepa?
@@finnstyles yeah fr
@@finnstyles pretty sure this is older though no?
@@AntonioThinker4444Mazzeppa is the 4th, the 8th is Wilde Jagd 😊
Arrau was one of the best performer, ever.
La version la plus juste à mon avis du grand Maitre.
Force et clarté.
Justesse et lumière.
Exactement. Claudio Arrau retranscrit à merveille cette atmosphère divine et poétique qu'il y a dans la musique de Franz Liszt. La façon dont il plaque les accords, ça fait lever les yeux vers le ciel, et les notes émanent une lumière vraiment incroyable.
J'apprécie personnellement aussi bien les interprétations de Vladimir Horowitz, assez excentriques il est vrai, sachant qu'il faisait lui-même ses propres arrangements. Disons que Horowitz et Arrau avaient des avis qui divergent quant à l'idée d'interprétation. Le premier pense qu'il s'agit de mêler son propre coeur et faire une osmose avec le compositeur, tout en s'exprimant soi-même. Pour Arrau, l'interprète n'est qu'un "porte-parole" en quelques sortes.
Bref, je divague !
@@Bampaloudu64 bien les couilles bleus ? 🤣
@@tinkishepitaphe3617 Hein ?
L'interpretazione più bella e convincente di questo brano...
Grande Arrau
Ottima performance che da a questa meravigliosa musica la grandezza che gli compete..
Listz, what an incredible Masterpiece you composed!!
Arrau sempre fantástico com uma interpretação inesquecível.
the best performance I know.
Une magnifique version !!
Unique Arrau. Takes you to another plane.
Love this piece
Magistral!!
Un toucher unique .
Puting a Shein add during this breathtaking performance is a true crime
SUBLIME!
Best execution on TH-cam!
This interpretation by Arrau makes all others kinda pale in comparison. Simply epochal!
Magisterial
Arrau Magistral
11:45 just a note for me
Capolavoro assoluto
😍
Cecile LIcad's performance of Vallee d:"Obermann by Franz Liszt is the runaway best.
ludzie nie wiedzą jak to grać, chodzi o coś zupełnie innego, nie tak głośno i łapczywie!!
I don't know, why the algorithm shows this interpretation first when searching for Vallee d'Obermann. It is really a very clear performance. But also very boring: tempi really slow, not much dynamic and completely un-romantic. Compared to the only Horowitz-recording available, definitely not an alternative, althought Horowitz has changed some small parts of the score (which Liszt also did quite often in his performances). This is such a colorful work. Arrau often does take-apart the music instead of letting it flow. For me, Horowitz' interpretation is the most interesting one. He works out colors and harmonics, which Arrau just point at. Arrau is playing quite "angular", Horowitz "round" and smoothly. It is common sence, that in romantic music one can vary tempi, dynamics etc. to underline the emotional aspect of music. Horowitz does it perfectly, Arrau plays it like an accountant who counts notes. For me it does not fit to this piece. Some examples:
A tempo measure 51: th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html
Recitativo: th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs. th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html
Lento 1: th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html
Lento 2: th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs. th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html (listen to the bass notes, Horowitz piano-singing-magic, Arrau craftsman).
Arrau is varying the tempo so often: th-cam.com/video/BZ2AqIzHSQw/w-d-xo.html vs. th-cam.com/video/9NJxh2gYcS4/w-d-xo.html
I'm pretty sure you know that Arrau was a student of a student of Liszt himself, it deserves probably to give this interpretation a little more credit :D, even though everybody has his own taste ! For sure Arrau playing is less demonstrative than Horowitz, it touches me deeply ! And what a beautiful sound he has
This rendition is plain vanilla -- IOW, quite boring.
Yes, the circus with the clowns are very far from this deep interpretation which is not for anyone.
your nick talks very eloquently about you :) No point in listening to music, just do something else, for example, go and have a big mac or two.
Would you rather your kid have feminism or cancer? ...Well.??...nothing is written in choices...but I don’t like cassata.!
@@tangistanguy Why should he not be allowed to have his own opinion on this interpretation? I do not agree with him, but I respect his opinion.
@@trollslendtoribash318 The point is that he expresses his opinion in a derogatory way, which, to begin with, and to finish, his very personal 'judgement" might be there just to say something "shocking" about an artist . As if the fact of daring to despise what an artist does would give you authority ... moreover if the artist is a beloved and respected one ... What I meant is, who cares about what this poor guy (see his nickname!) thinks, probably nobody, whereas many, lots of people care and have cared for Arrau.