Not to trash on CLC but fromis actually has sold 800k albums in their career so they are profitable. And a very solid fandom that has survived throughout all the hiatuses. Just not to the level of new jeans and lsrfm.
Well the company could just disband and tell it like it is. Release them so they are free to pursue other work. A lot of artists like black pink are trying to break free from their contracts. Nowadays you don't need a management company.
The fact they have been active since basically late 2016 and only have ONE full album makes me upset. Literally one album in like 6-7 years of work? Comparing their catalog to twice who started in 2015 and Fromis_9 who started in 2017, the amount in difference of song amount is drastic.
Well the same goes for BP and Aespa. Both groups had their first full albums four years after debuting (2020 and 2024). The thing is that companies care less for their ggs which is awful. Twice is JYP's main money maker so they release music 2-3 times a year
@@dsibrbidll7752 BP and AESPA don’t NEED the albums though, comparing their success to Fromis_9 there is a STARK difference. BP and AESPA don’t need to make frequent comebacks to stay relevant or make a sale.
@@SBBunny93 Yes, but I believe that for the artists the first thing is that they want to make music. At least in the beginning of their career. That's why they have trained for so long, to do the thing they like. I would say that as a blink and a mys, their success is a phenomenon - having few songs but being this popular. Imagine the same happened with fromis_9. Unfortunately, it didn't which is sad because the group has the potential of being more popular.
@@dsibrbidll7752I get that too, but again, they didn’t need to have frequent comebacks because of their company stans. Yes they may have wanted to make more music but at the end of the day it wasn’t truly needed for them to be successful and I firmly believe they never needed much to be successful thanks to being under YG. Which they have opportunity now more than ever to release as much as they want from a solo standpoint. AESPA might not have a large catalog but everything they have released is triple A work and are promoted heavily. Fromis_9 lacked the company privilege. It’s more vital for a group like Fromis_9 to have frequent comebacks to keep up than it is for a group like BP or AESPA who are in the top 5% of all kpop groups. Idk I guess I just don’t feel bad for a Black Pink or a AESPA because they will always be relevant and in the spotlight. Fromis_9 however won’t be.
That's what's right but let's face it Hybe is going to do what Hybe is going to do. You want to really get them pay attention you got do some thing most fans don't want and that's not listen to another one of their products period not even on TH-cam. We can complain all day day long but while we consume their products their music groups they still rake in money and alot of it with that in mind how are they going to incentivized to change?
@@OmerLoveYasemindo you not understand how a multi-label corporation like Hybe works? They have no control over the the groups, it’s the companies that manage them, Hybe just provide the facilities, financial backing, distribution and connections. Pledis are the ones in charge of Fromis_9, they are the ones who choose when their groups have comebacks, not Hybe, get educated.
there are so many unknown girl groups that are getting pretty much no sales/views. Fromis_9 has so many fans and honestly possibly used to be the top 3 4th gen GG back when it's top 1 iz*one, top 2 itzy. days and pledis is just ignoring this group. fckng unbelievable
It seems to me that saving Fromis_9 was just a public relation front for HYBE to save face from losing GFRIEND. If you really think about it, absorbing PLEDIS (a smaller company) is pretty much the same story as Source Music. However, Seventeen makes the most revenue. Meaning, more attention went to the fellas than the ladies.
@@snusun I was an ardent fan of Pristin V their sub division (not much the main group) Kyulkyong, Nayoung, Eunwoo, Rena and Roa are all my biases as I loved them all maybe slightly more the first two but the tragedy they received is so undeserved. I believe if those 5 girls debuted for SM or JYP they would be as big as Aespa and Itzy sadly that's not what happened. I am afraid fromis_9 will follow the same path.
@@pratikroy227 all pre-hybe Girl Group basically suffering the same fate. Fromis considered "lucky" and "unfortunate" at the same time. lucky because their bond quite strong going to the end of their contract and unfortunate, because they should've terminate long ago after stay this way. there's no point keep going without Gyuri. Jiwon, Seoyeon, Chaeyoung and Jiheon could've been re-debuted with new group tho
They have some really great songs - DM, We Go, Stay This Way - and are very talented. They are being wasted. Gyuri leaving hurts (she was my bias), but they deserve better.
@@haeinlee-gn2ts u out here commenting on everyones comments and watching videos about fromis_9 seems like your sad ass cares about them more than we do lmao
The thing that bothers me most about these types of situations, is these companies just waste years of these young people's lives. They lock them up in contracts for years and then don't do anything with them. They shouldn't be considered Music companies, they are just companies. They don't care about music, they care about profit. If they could make more money selling Vitamins then music, they would switch in a heartbeat.
Nothing is more cruel than wasting/holding back somebody's potential and time, it's a modern-day torture method, sad to see a problem like this still exists in the Kpop industry...
First GFRIEND disbanded for God knows why. Then we had the whole controversy with Garam. Lesserafim had the whole Coachella issue, then New Jeans and their “hiatus” along with ILLIT being a weapon used against them, and now Fromis_9 is being mistreated continuously. Wow HYBE really needs to get a handle with their girl groups cause oh my gosh…the way they treat them is unbelievable
It’s mind-bending how maliciously inept and short-sightedly petty big Korean entertainment companies can be towards their idol groups. Everyone was hoping BigHit/HYBE would be different, but nope. They seem to be among the worst offenders. It is indeed SAD.
One of my favorite groups. I don't care about any scandals, dating, rigging, or any other crap. They are good. Very good! I enjoy watching and listening to them, and do so pretty much every day. It's pretty obvious their management views them as a black eye, and hopes they just quietly fade away. Yet it is their management, little sh!t stains punishing others to hide their own incompetence, that caused all of the problems.
Pledis entertainment is their label. Hybe only responsibility is to supply resources, financial backing and music distribution for each label. All labels under hybe work independently and are responsible for their own artists mangerment, promots ,scheduling, creative and music production
@@nicoleloss7987 lmao nobody ever takes you seriously shooting for hybe in every comment section. Doesn't even read the comment before jumping to defend hybe... Embarrassing
They're pretty & gorgeous. All their songs are absolute bop and no skip, better than other popular groups songs. They have powerful vocal, especially the two main vocalist. They have charming personality. They work hard doing their own show. I just don't get it..
Fromis_9 is by far the most well built group I’ve seen all the members have charisma, visuals, and their vocals are insane. I really wished that they were bigger.
Omg its too much they don't deserve it despite being under the big company they r not getting best treatment and company neglected them if ur fav one didn't make it in group that doesn't mean that it's girls fault so they don't deserve this much hate I'm feeling so bad for them they should treat them well and promote them well
These company stans of Hybe that will continue to keep Hybe blameless on this matter are wild. Like Hybe by all means can jump in and tell Pledis to start promoting the girls. Hybe is a company that has the power to jump in at any time to demand changes in Pledis if they see Pledis not fulfilling their part. The fact that they haven't means that Fromis_9 is not a priority for either Pledis or Hybe.
Hybe only responsibility is to supply resources, financial backing and music distribution. It is pledis entertainment responsibility to manger their artists
@@nicoleloss7987 HYBE IS CONTROLLING EVERYTHING I'm tried of saying this HYBE literally owns 80% of Pledis Not just pledis HYBE makes decisions of Every single sub company Even min heejin said that
@@nicoleloss7987 HYBE is majority shareholder. Pledis may have their own staff in place, but HYBE staff has the power to override ANY decisions they make. For example, if Pledis doesn't want to protect fromis_9 from death threats, HYBE can step in with their tons of money and take legal action against the perpetrators. But they don't care about any of their idols as people, so they won't. That's why the girls call Bang their president and HYBE their company. They ultimately control everything. Anybody who understands what one company buying another company does knows that, but most K-fans are ignorant about business (kind of understandable since a lot are kids, but then they confidently mouth off with wrong info). So they kind of plainly revealed it to those ignorant masses.
@@nicoleloss7987 Hybe decide if they debut first or not the same with comebacks. He has the last word. Doesn't matter whatever pledis do for their group.
@@Nobody2060-lg2klILLIT is a terrible group, the result of rigged show. But the fault lies not with the members, but with HYBE for debuting people who aren't ready.
fromis_9 is one group that kept improving with each comeback. Their songs got better, their choreo, in sync dancing, style, and beauty just grew. It was amazing to watch. It is so tragic to watch these corporate idiots blow it time, and time a gain When you have a gold mine, you need to work it, not abandon it.
Fromis_9 are really talented but hybe doesn't want talent they are just after visuals, imagine if hybe promoted fromis as illit they would have been so popular. i feel bad for them after so much of hardwork they have to face this hope newjeans doesn't end up like this😢
Hybe is a multilabel colomgrate. Hybe only responsibility is to supply resources ,financial backing and music distribution for each label. It is the responsibility of pledis entertainment to manger their own artists
Gfriend. WJSN. Cherry Bullet. Lovelyz. All screwed over by some combination of politics, incompetence, bad communication, bad faith, newer toys in the playground.. There's obviously more but those are the most recent, similar or adjacent
I knew Pledis treated them poorly but I had no idea nietizens were being so ruthlessly mean to them for nothing in their actual control. I hope some day they get the justice they deserve. They make great music and are extremely talented…
token stans and the non-fans always wishing and hoping for fromis_9 disbandment. only flovers keep fighting to prevent the disbandment. "I'm not their fans but feel pity for them", "I don't stan them but....." bla bla bla, keep it to yourself if you're not helping.
Hybe Stan is seriously on another level. Now they are questioning the management of Pledis instead of Hybe? How come people are so twisted when ADOR provided great management for Newjeans but get mistreated by Hybe and people starts to say Newjeans aren’t mistreated by Hybe they are being managed well but they forget that ADOR is the one doing management and not Hybe. Talks about hypocrisy at its finest
@eslnter Pledis is actually considered rather known to be one of the worst companies to be under, because they typically throw their idols away more specially girl groups. They did the same thing to after school, orange caramel, and pristin…..
@@cheyennewagner6415 ye those are honestly legendary groups especially after school and orange caramel ! Pristin was such a waste as well. Formis 9 even had to go live to rant and finally then they get to attend the Gyeongbokgung palace event together with Newjeans and getting to have a comeback soon from what I heard.
I became a support of fromis_9 after watching hybe caterers. I really hope pledis treats them better.... Editing their own videos? Mismanagenent at its peak! The girls clearly deserve more. Sending lots of love and support to fromis_9
Damn I was just watching Channel_9 only to see this. I'm glad it's getting traction, but I'm not sure what it'll mean for fromis_9. Their my bias group, fan since 2018. I mean, at this point, both international fans & k-fans have sent protest trucks this yr so 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Lee Haein was a sad case but she redeem herself and become the Creative director of Kiss of Life Nattys group which is amazing as a fan since produce season 1
Everything looks convincing at the beginning but still, a huge fanbase is the key to success for kpop idols. In addition, entertainment companies in Korea always in problematic. Such as company financial status ,blackmailing and scandal.
I don’t think it’s fair fromis gets hate for the rigging scandal. I don’t see any one protesting IVE or le sserafim Their beautiful and talented people hate them for literally no reason
Before username nicoleloss comments everywhere. Hybe now owns over 85% of pledis. They also installed a former BigHit VP as pledis' new ceo in 2022 when the mistreatment got worse. Hybe has all the control over everything that happens and you fools are too naive to comprehend that or you do know that but want to protect a label.
As much as I will support that Hybe needs to do better when it comes to Fromis-9, ya'll are tripping here and focusing on the wright group wright issue at the wrong time...since evidence have been found in this past few days against MNHJ instead of talking about it This channel and Hybe haters doesn't want to hold her accountable ya'll just want the hate train to continue that's why even though you don't care about Fromis-9 ya'll are still using their names to shift people's focus from the big elephant in the room YOUR HIGHNESS MIN
@@lorineakoth834 I don't give a single fk about any hybe group except fromis_9 hope that clears it up. fromis_9 has been mistreated longer than these other hybe groups have been around so my apologies if I don't feel bad for the others especially when their fans mocked fromis_9 being mistreated before it happened to them. Karma is real.
@@lorineakoth834 I don't give a single fk about any other hybe group except fromis-9. They have been mistreated far longer than these other hybe groups have been active. idc what happens to the other groups because their fans took every opportunity to drag and make fun of fromis_9 for being mistreated and now they want the sympathy. sorry but im NOT sorry
@HateFilledDonut all BTS and Hybe fans are aware that Hybe aren't saint at all but ya'll Mhj cult think she's a white angel always accepting everything she says without her providing any valuable evidence, the problem is ya'll never accept that she's wrong even though the evidence is right on your face...
They have to rebrand as FROMIS I love this group, their music is never disappointing even with a subtraction of one they have always potential there flover forever ❤❤❤
I'm really sorry, Fromis_9. It hurts to see you not getting the love and attention you deserve, while other groups who can't even hit your high notes get all the praise. It's unfair how you face so much abuse and hate, all because your management is failing you miserably. I wasn't a fan from the start and didn't know even 1% of what you've been through. I hope this message wakes up your company and those haters who are targeting innocent people like you. You deserve all the attention, love, and appreciation❤️
I knew them from 2018, honestly I didn't think much but I listened cause I was tired of mainstream groups but I saw them grow and grow and I honestly enjoyed them alot so this does suck.
Mnet thought they can get away again with the vote rigging in Produce X 101.. But then, netizens did the digging and found out the truth.. Sadly that affected X1 badly.. They could've been the best group to represent 4th gen idols, but vote rigging affected their debut and sadly lately affecting other idols such as fromis_9.. 🥺🥺🥺
Been into Flover (fromis_9 fandom) since Unlock My World. Their songs helped me through college and by far, the most girl group I can made connection with especially from the song. I know I'm still newbie but I'm gonna share my thoughts. The fact that not many people didn't know about fromis_9 is actually saddening. What's not to like about them? They have everything from vocals, choreography, personality, talent and most importantly, visual. If you want someone to blame, blame the one who rigged the show, not them because they don't deserve it (just like 르세라핌). Just imagine if PLEDIS treat them right, it would be night and day difference. Just to name one, if "Love Me Back" being promoted properly, it would be as famous as "Cupid" but they didn't. When fromis_9 is under PLEDIS, it's not the same anymore like we lost entirely everything (CHANNEL_9, Jisun ASMR). I really don't know why PLEDIS mistreat them unfortunately. They have so much potential, yet they just need a PROPER promotion from PLEDIS. I don't know what kind of curse PLEDIS have with their former girlgroup. Last but not least, I hope that we can saw a change in management which can led to fromis_9 to its glory days back then. Idk what kind of way, maybe PLEDIS get a prophecy or something but yeah let's just hope fromis_9 can be known internationally not just Korea. Don't get me wrong, they have so much fanbase nationwide but sadly not international. My message 1. Flover, if you see this, please tell the world that we're here for them and we will support them forever because without us, how can fromis_9 get their support? Remember, fromis_9 create a fandom and choose the name "flover", isn't that clear enough? 2. WAKE UP PLEDIS, YOU NEED A GODDAMN WAKE UP CALL Edit : fromis_9 is smart enough to be invited anywhere, campus concert, Korean Tourism Campaign even in Philippines. I hope it's a wake up call for PLEDIS to promote them NOW.
@@haeinlee-gn2tsyou envy them while all you can do is just type hate speech, let alone you have talent like them. But what's more embarassing is how u pretending to be someone lol
Stan the artist, not the evil companies. Super talented, hilarious content Queens, no weak links whatsoever, all their songs are bop. Bring back CHANNEL_9!!!!!!!!!!, it was awesome. None of this crap is the fault of these sweet girls, it is a Pledis/Hybe problem.❤fromis_9❤
this is so heartbreaking, fromis is such a great group overall. If they got the attention from a bigger better company they could be front runners in the 4th generation. I want the best for them
Wanna know what’s crazy they’re the most underrated group in Hybe, least problematic, least known, but they have incredibly good talents, but Hybe is just ignoring them. It’s like HyBe is allergic to talented groups and is always doing them bad justice. Same thing happened his Gfriend. A girl group with really good talents but they disbanded because Hybe was debuting Le sserafim just for Le sserafim to get backlash for being bad singers/ untalented idols(no hate to Le sserafim this is just an example I STILL LOVE Le sserafim tho)
I’m not hybe fan but They got the visuals and vocals hybe wants but they just don’t give a fuck as if it’s their not famous enough .🙄 then promote them ! thats just sad hybe manage so much that they don’t give a fuck as much.
I watch a lot of their vlogs since thats all they could do for being shelved, the members would casually voice out “i wish we can release another song soon” this was back when Izone was still around.
God please! They might be the last group that I will stand, at least I want to see more of them! I stan 4minute before and they disbanded and it broke my heart. I hope fromis9's story will be a better story
the me:i picture when talking about i.o.i 😭😭😭 i just wish for fromis to be treated the way they deserve! their music slaps and they're such a great group, kept in the dungeon...
Tbh, this group was quite late debuted after Idol School contest. Moreover their debut song had cute, pure concept, which had already become outdated that days, so many people lost interest in them, especially netizens. The situation got worse after manipulation scandals on Mnet's shows. The group now doesn't have such a good reputation and popularity in Korea, despite their popularity around the world. It seems that the company wants to disband Fromis next year when their contracts end. I feel sorry for the girls for everything they have had to suffer these last 6 years. I believe that each girl will find her place in industry.
I have never heard their mv or songs but hearing this made my eyes teary i was like why?? It was never their fault at all, anyone who should be blamed is their company!! And if anyone thinks that they should disband then... i can't do anything about you at all because criticizing them will only led to depression, and then sucid3
I feel really bad for the group, especially since they are so talented. I just hope they soon have a comeback.
A better comeback
No just take and go album
They’re preparing for one, pinkpantheress is working with them
@@cwpidxoxo ???
@@NonstopFFriday she stans them…
@@cwpidxoxo still a waste of her time
They remind me of CLC. The members were waiting for a comeback, while the company was waiting for the contracts to expire-
Not to trash on CLC but fromis actually has sold 800k albums in their career so they are profitable. And a very solid fandom that has survived throughout all the hiatuses. Just not to the level of new jeans and lsrfm.
@@devvv4616 I agree
Well the company could just disband and tell it like it is. Release them so they are free to pursue other work. A lot of artists like black pink are trying to break free from their contracts. Nowadays you don't need a management company.
CLC hasn’t disbanded yet
@@lovene._CLC official activities were "haulted" on May 20, 2022, the announcement was made by CUBE when 2 members left the group
literally almost everytime I see our Fromis_9 appear on the news is for sad stuff :( 😭😭
what a fucking liar
people love drama
Well they deserve better management. This shows what can happen with poor management.
@@jonfreeman9682 they deserve to disband
The fact that they probably forced her to apologise after complaining after the mistreatment of the group is what gets me.
They certainly did... And I'm almost sure that it wasn't pretty...
The fact they have been active since basically late 2016 and only have ONE full album makes me upset. Literally one album in like 6-7 years of work? Comparing their catalog to twice who started in 2015 and Fromis_9 who started in 2017, the amount in difference of song amount is drastic.
Well the same goes for BP and Aespa. Both groups had their first full albums four years after debuting (2020 and 2024). The thing is that companies care less for their ggs which is awful. Twice is JYP's main money maker so they release music 2-3 times a year
@@dsibrbidll7752 BP and AESPA don’t NEED the albums though, comparing their success to Fromis_9 there is a STARK difference. BP and AESPA don’t need to make frequent comebacks to stay relevant or make a sale.
@@SBBunny93 Yes, but I believe that for the artists the first thing is that they want to make music. At least in the beginning of their career. That's why they have trained for so long, to do the thing they like. I would say that as a blink and a mys, their success is a phenomenon - having few songs but being this popular. Imagine the same happened with fromis_9. Unfortunately, it didn't which is sad because the group has the potential of being more popular.
@@SBBunny93 both those groups debuted under big labels with real support. neither of them were thrown aside less than 10 months into their careers.
@@dsibrbidll7752I get that too, but again, they didn’t need to have frequent comebacks because of their company stans. Yes they may have wanted to make more music but at the end of the day it wasn’t truly needed for them to be successful and I firmly believe they never needed much to be successful thanks to being under YG. Which they have opportunity now more than ever to release as much as they want from a solo standpoint. AESPA might not have a large catalog but everything they have released is triple A work and are promoted heavily. Fromis_9 lacked the company privilege. It’s more vital for a group like Fromis_9 to have frequent comebacks to keep up than it is for a group like BP or AESPA who are in the top 5% of all kpop groups. Idk I guess I just don’t feel bad for a Black Pink or a AESPA because they will always be relevant and in the spotlight. Fromis_9 however won’t be.
I really hope Fromis_9 doesn't end in tragedy, they've already been through so much 😭😭
They should leave the management company and go solo.
Pledis and Hybe need to pay them and give them comebacks
That's what's right but let's face it Hybe is going to do what Hybe is going to do. You want to really get them pay attention you got do some thing most fans don't want and that's not listen to another one of their products period not even on TH-cam. We can complain all day day long but while we consume their products their music groups they still rake in money and alot of it with that in mind how are they going to incentivized to change?
Hybe cares more about lesserafim than promise 9, that's the truth.
Ask Pledis. Hybe does not do everything.
@@wildlotus4339toxic company stan like you only blame others
@@OmerLoveYasemindo you not understand how a multi-label corporation like Hybe works? They have no control over the the groups, it’s the companies that manage them, Hybe just provide the facilities, financial backing, distribution and connections. Pledis are the ones in charge of Fromis_9, they are the ones who choose when their groups have comebacks, not Hybe, get educated.
there are so many unknown girl groups that are getting pretty much no sales/views. Fromis_9 has so many fans and honestly possibly used to be the top 3 4th gen GG back when it's top 1 iz*one, top 2 itzy. days and pledis is just ignoring this group. fckng unbelievable
It seems to me that saving Fromis_9 was just a public relation front for HYBE to save face from losing GFRIEND. If you really think about it, absorbing PLEDIS (a smaller company) is pretty much the same story as Source Music. However, Seventeen makes the most revenue. Meaning, more attention went to the fellas than the ladies.
not to mention PRISTIN and AFTERSCHOOL, both ended up in same tragedy
@@snusun I was an ardent fan of Pristin V their sub division (not much the main group) Kyulkyong, Nayoung, Eunwoo, Rena and Roa are all my biases as I loved them all maybe slightly more the first two but the tragedy they received is so undeserved. I believe if those 5 girls debuted for SM or JYP they would be as big as Aespa and Itzy sadly that's not what happened. I am afraid fromis_9 will follow the same path.
@@pratikroy227 all pre-hybe Girl Group basically suffering the same fate. Fromis considered "lucky" and "unfortunate" at the same time. lucky because their bond quite strong going to the end of their contract and unfortunate, because they should've terminate long ago after stay this way. there's no point keep going without Gyuri. Jiwon, Seoyeon, Chaeyoung and Jiheon could've been re-debuted with new group tho
They have some really great songs - DM, We Go, Stay This Way - and are very talented. They are being wasted. Gyuri leaving hurts (she was my bias), but they deserve better.
Fromis_9 music is so refreshing and so much fun to listen to
It’s so frustrating to see them being treated like this :(
This is so sad. Fromis_9 deserves so much better. I want better for them. They're super talented and just deserve better. 🥺❤️
fromis_9 deserve to disband. stop pretending like you care about that flop group
@@haeinlee-gn2ts u out here commenting on everyones comments and watching videos about fromis_9 seems like your sad ass cares about them more than we do lmao
@@haeinlee-gn2tsthey are more successful then you’ll ever be kid..
True lol I agree@@haeinlee-gn2ts
@@haeinlee-gn2tsyou’re miserable and I’m sad for you. They’re very talented
The thing that bothers me most about these types of situations, is these companies just waste years of these young people's lives. They lock them up in contracts for years and then don't do anything with them.
They shouldn't be considered Music companies, they are just companies. They don't care about music, they care about profit. If they could make more money selling Vitamins then music, they would switch in a heartbeat.
Nothing is more cruel than wasting/holding back somebody's potential and time, it's a modern-day torture method, sad to see a problem like this still exists in the Kpop industry...
Some GG/BG really deserve better…
First GFRIEND disbanded for God knows why. Then we had the whole controversy with Garam. Lesserafim had the whole Coachella issue, then New Jeans and their “hiatus” along with ILLIT being a weapon used against them, and now Fromis_9 is being mistreated continuously. Wow HYBE really needs to get a handle with their girl groups cause oh my gosh…the way they treat them is unbelievable
Pledis said they are preparing for a comeback but didn't share the date
Like WTF 😭😭😭
It’s mind-bending how maliciously inept and short-sightedly petty big Korean entertainment companies can be towards their idol groups. Everyone was hoping BigHit/HYBE would be different, but nope. They seem to be among the worst offenders. It is indeed SAD.
Im so scared this is gonna be end of Fromis_9 😢
IKR😭
They are going to have a comeback
they are preparing for a comeback. tune into the songs they have now (example. prom night & attitude) if you really care about them
good, fromis_9 deserve to disband. stop pretending like you care about that rigged group
That's why Jiheon's parents insist her going to university
One of my favorite groups. I don't care about any scandals, dating, rigging, or any other crap. They are good. Very good! I enjoy watching and listening to them, and do so pretty much every day. It's pretty obvious their management views them as a black eye, and hopes they just quietly fade away. Yet it is their management, little sh!t stains punishing others to hide their own incompetence, that caused all of the problems.
what a liar
@@haeinlee-gn2tsmade a new account just to hate, you’re such a weirdo, it’s always the non korean fans. get a life
@@haeinlee-gn2tsOK STOP OR ELSE UR A BOT SAYING THE SAME THING EVERY COMMENT UR A LIAR IN REALITY U LIED MORE THSN PONOCIO
They are practically starving for comebacks
Pledis needs to stop taking them for granted.
Pledis entertainment is their label. Hybe only responsibility is to supply resources, financial backing and music distribution for each label. All labels under hybe work independently and are responsible for their own artists mangerment, promots ,scheduling, creative and music production
@@nicoleloss7987 i fixed it
@@nicoleloss7987 lmao nobody ever takes you seriously shooting for hybe in every comment section. Doesn't even read the comment before jumping to defend hybe... Embarrassing
@@nicoleloss7987 bro does hybe pay you or what? cuz with that dedication they should😂
pledis should just disband fromis_9. waste of resource.
They're pretty & gorgeous. All their songs are absolute bop and no skip, better than other popular groups songs. They have powerful vocal, especially the two main vocalist. They have charming personality. They work hard doing their own show.
I just don't get it..
because you're not their fans that's why you don't get it.
@@haeinlee-gn2tsOK UR NOT A FAN EITHER U ----….
its nothing much, happened to any girlgroup under pledis
I feel sooo bad for the group 😭😭😭 They are soo talented but pledis clearly doesnt see it
Fromis_9 is by far the most well built group I’ve seen all the members have charisma, visuals, and their vocals are insane. I really wished that they were bigger.
I Hate this is happening to them they are soooooo talented and they all deserve the recognition
Omg its too much they don't deserve it despite being under the big company they r not getting best treatment and company neglected them if ur fav one didn't make it in group that doesn't mean that it's girls fault so they don't deserve this much hate I'm feeling so bad for them they should treat them well and promote them well
These company stans of Hybe that will continue to keep Hybe blameless on this matter are wild. Like Hybe by all means can jump in and tell Pledis to start promoting the girls. Hybe is a company that has the power to jump in at any time to demand changes in Pledis if they see Pledis not fulfilling their part. The fact that they haven't means that Fromis_9 is not a priority for either Pledis or Hybe.
Hybe only responsibility is to supply resources, financial backing and music distribution. It is pledis entertainment responsibility to manger their artists
@@nicoleloss7987 HYBE IS CONTROLLING EVERYTHING
I'm tried of saying this
HYBE literally owns 80% of Pledis
Not just pledis
HYBE makes decisions of
Every single sub company
Even min heejin said that
@@nicoleloss7987 80% have no say? Are you for real?
@@nicoleloss7987 HYBE is majority shareholder. Pledis may have their own staff in place, but HYBE staff has the power to override ANY decisions they make. For example, if Pledis doesn't want to protect fromis_9 from death threats, HYBE can step in with their tons of money and take legal action against the perpetrators. But they don't care about any of their idols as people, so they won't.
That's why the girls call Bang their president and HYBE their company. They ultimately control everything. Anybody who understands what one company buying another company does knows that, but most K-fans are ignorant about business (kind of understandable since a lot are kids, but then they confidently mouth off with wrong info). So they kind of plainly revealed it to those ignorant masses.
@@nicoleloss7987 Hybe decide if they debut first or not the same with comebacks. He has the last word. Doesn't matter whatever pledis do for their group.
HYBE should promote them, instead of promoting that ILLIT nonsense
It's not illit's fault they get promoted better....
This video is not about illit, stop finding a way to hate in them
Leave those poor girls alone
@@Nobody2060-lg2klILLIT is a terrible group, the result of rigged show. But the fault lies not with the members, but with HYBE for debuting people who aren't ready.
@@user-ji3io9hn8oexactly
@@sa_ku.05
Stop defending I'llit when we talk about the company
fromis_9 is one group that kept improving with each comeback. Their songs got better, their choreo, in sync dancing, style, and beauty just grew. It was amazing to watch. It is so tragic to watch these corporate idiots blow it time, and time a gain When you have a gold mine, you need to work it, not abandon it.
Fromis9 literally carry girl group vocals in hybe after gfriend hybe should promote the group well 😢
HYBE has a total of seven sub-labels, and not everyone will be treated equally. Also Pledis is often considered an independent label.
Fromis_9 was in Kwave Festival Manila last week... May 12. They look so fine..
They had a consecutive string of 4 songs that were as good as any in KPOP history. Great group.
Fromis_9 are really talented but hybe doesn't want talent they are just after visuals, imagine if hybe promoted fromis as illit they would have been so popular. i feel bad for them after so much of hardwork they have to face this hope newjeans doesn't end up like this😢
But Fromis is the most visual girl group of all of Hybe!
Hybe is a multilabel colomgrate. Hybe only responsibility is to supply resources ,financial backing and music distribution for each label. It is the responsibility of pledis entertainment to manger their own artists
Illit has nothing to do with this. Belift and pledis are two different companies under hybe
it's always the talented group.
Gfriend. WJSN. Cherry Bullet. Lovelyz. All screwed over by some combination of politics, incompetence, bad communication, bad faith, newer toys in the playground..
There's obviously more but those are the most recent, similar or adjacent
I knew Pledis treated them poorly but I had no idea nietizens were being so ruthlessly mean to them for nothing in their actual control. I hope some day they get the justice they deserve. They make great music and are extremely talented…
THEY TOTALLY DESERVE BETTER
token stans and the non-fans always wishing and hoping for fromis_9 disbandment. only flovers keep fighting to prevent the disbandment.
"I'm not their fans but feel pity for them", "I don't stan them but....." bla bla bla, keep it to yourself if you're not helping.
THANK YOU! LOUDER
When I learned that they were paid for the first time after 6 years😤
No, they were not paid yet in 2024
they already received payment for previous year
Hybe Stan is seriously on another level.
Now they are questioning the management of Pledis instead of Hybe?
How come people are so twisted when ADOR provided great management for Newjeans but get mistreated by Hybe and people starts to say Newjeans aren’t mistreated by Hybe they are being managed well but they forget that ADOR is the one doing management and not Hybe.
Talks about hypocrisy at its finest
@eslnter
Pledis is actually considered rather known to be one of the worst companies to be under, because they typically throw their idols away more specially girl groups. They did the same thing to after school, orange caramel, and pristin…..
@@cheyennewagner6415 ye those are honestly legendary groups especially after school and orange caramel ! Pristin was such a waste as well.
Formis 9 even had to go live to rant and finally then they get to attend the Gyeongbokgung palace event together with Newjeans and getting to have a comeback soon from what I heard.
I became a support of fromis_9 after watching hybe caterers. I really hope pledis treats them better.... Editing their own videos? Mismanagenent at its peak! The girls clearly deserve more. Sending lots of love and support to fromis_9
Damn I was just watching Channel_9 only to see this. I'm glad it's getting traction, but I'm not sure what it'll mean for fromis_9.
Their my bias group, fan since 2018.
I mean, at this point, both international fans & k-fans have sent protest trucks this yr so 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Fromis_9 will be not forgotten for us!!! We still and forever love them!!! 💓❤️💞
They deserve so much better. This group has it all: talent, visuals, and charisma. Unlock My World was my 2023 album of the year.
Lee Haein was a sad case but she redeem herself and become the Creative director of Kiss of Life Nattys group which is amazing as a fan since produce season 1
Everything looks convincing at the beginning but still, a huge fanbase is the key to success for kpop idols. In addition, entertainment companies in Korea always in problematic. Such as company financial status ,blackmailing and scandal.
karma is a bitch and fromis_9 deserve to disband
It is such a waste. They are so talented even if the lineup may have been rigged
I don’t think it’s fair fromis gets hate for the rigging scandal. I don’t see any one protesting IVE or le sserafim Their beautiful and talented people hate them for literally no reason
Before username nicoleloss comments everywhere. Hybe now owns over 85% of pledis. They also installed a former BigHit VP as pledis' new ceo in 2022 when the mistreatment got worse. Hybe has all the control over everything that happens and you fools are too naive to comprehend that or you do know that but want to protect a label.
As much as I will support that Hybe needs to do better when it comes to Fromis-9, ya'll are tripping here and focusing on the wright group wright issue at the wrong time...since evidence have been found in this past few days against MNHJ instead of talking about it This channel and Hybe haters doesn't want to hold her accountable ya'll just want the hate train to continue that's why even though you don't care about Fromis-9 ya'll are still using their names to shift people's focus from the big elephant in the room YOUR HIGHNESS MIN
@@lorineakoth834 I don't give a single fk about any hybe group except fromis_9 hope that clears it up. fromis_9 has been mistreated longer than these other hybe groups have been around so my apologies if I don't feel bad for the others especially when their fans mocked fromis_9 being mistreated before it happened to them. Karma is real.
@@lorineakoth834 I don't give a single fk about any other hybe group except fromis-9. They have been mistreated far longer than these other hybe groups have been active. idc what happens to the other groups because their fans took every opportunity to drag and make fun of fromis_9 for being mistreated and now they want the sympathy. sorry but im NOT sorry
@@lorineakoth834 How about holding BOTH fucking parties accountable.. would that be crazy?
@HateFilledDonut all BTS and Hybe fans are aware that Hybe aren't saint at all but ya'll Mhj cult think she's a white angel always accepting everything she says without her providing any valuable evidence, the problem is ya'll never accept that she's wrong even though the evidence is right on your face...
❤ from Cali... need these girls
They have to rebrand as FROMIS I love this group, their music is never disappointing even with a subtraction of one they have always potential there flover forever ❤❤❤
I’ve been a flover for a year now I feel so bad for my girls, I really hope they get treated better ❤
Unfortunately they might not be the only one in hiatus as NewJeans might be joining them soon 😭
newjeans will be on hiatus. fromis_9 will be disband
@@haeinlee-gn2tsthey might be on hiatus..you are a little b☺️
I'm really sorry, Fromis_9. It hurts to see you not getting the love and attention you deserve, while other groups who can't even hit your high notes get all the praise. It's unfair how you face so much abuse and hate, all because your management is failing you miserably. I wasn't a fan from the start and didn't know even 1% of what you've been through. I hope this message wakes up your company and those haters who are targeting innocent people like you. You deserve all the attention, love, and appreciation❤️
We love fromis_9 ❤️❤️❤️❤️
what a liar
@@haeinlee-gn2ts
??????????????????
@@haeinlee-gn2tswhat a hater
@haeinlee-gn2ts what an whole.
5:44 has a picture of WJSN not fromis 9
I knew them from 2018, honestly I didn't think much but I listened cause I was tired of mainstream groups but I saw them grow and grow and I honestly enjoyed them alot so this does suck.
Fromis_9 deserves way better..
fromis_9 deserve to disband
@@haeinlee-gn2tsdid you not watch the vid u b🤦🏻♀️also learn spelling please..
3:46
I think you've mistakenly attached wjsn group photo
Fromis 9 looks so adorable
Mnet thought they can get away again with the vote rigging in Produce X 101.. But then, netizens did the digging and found out the truth.. Sadly that affected X1 badly.. They could've been the best group to represent 4th gen idols, but vote rigging affected their debut and sadly lately affecting other idols such as fromis_9.. 🥺🥺🥺
Been into Flover (fromis_9 fandom) since Unlock My World. Their songs helped me through college and by far, the most girl group I can made connection with especially from the song. I know I'm still newbie but I'm gonna share my thoughts.
The fact that not many people didn't know about fromis_9 is actually saddening. What's not to like about them? They have everything from vocals, choreography, personality, talent and most importantly, visual. If you want someone to blame, blame the one who rigged the show, not them because they don't deserve it (just like 르세라핌). Just imagine if PLEDIS treat them right, it would be night and day difference. Just to name one, if "Love Me Back" being promoted properly, it would be as famous as "Cupid" but they didn't. When fromis_9 is under PLEDIS, it's not the same anymore like we lost entirely everything (CHANNEL_9, Jisun ASMR). I really don't know why PLEDIS mistreat them unfortunately. They have so much potential, yet they just need a PROPER promotion from PLEDIS. I don't know what kind of curse PLEDIS have with their former girlgroup.
Last but not least, I hope that we can saw a change in management which can led to fromis_9 to its glory days back then. Idk what kind of way, maybe PLEDIS get a prophecy or something but yeah let's just hope fromis_9 can be known internationally not just Korea. Don't get me wrong, they have so much fanbase nationwide but sadly not international.
My message
1. Flover, if you see this, please tell the world that we're here for them and we will support them forever because without us, how can fromis_9 get their support? Remember, fromis_9 create a fandom and choose the name "flover", isn't that clear enough?
2. WAKE UP PLEDIS, YOU NEED A GODDAMN WAKE UP CALL
Edit :
fromis_9 is smart enough to be invited anywhere, campus concert, Korean Tourism Campaign even in Philippines. I hope it's a wake up call for PLEDIS to promote them NOW.
fromis_9 should just disband
@@haeinlee-gn2tsyou envy them while all you can do is just type hate speech, let alone you have talent like them. But what's more embarassing is how u pretending to be someone lol
I hate seeing them mistreated; I love them ❤
Stan the artist, not the evil companies. Super talented, hilarious content Queens, no weak links whatsoever, all their songs are bop. Bring back CHANNEL_9!!!!!!!!!!, it was awesome.
None of this crap is the fault of these sweet girls, it is a Pledis/Hybe problem.❤fromis_9❤
disband fromis_9
@@haeinlee-gn2tsdisband Le Sserafim and illit instead of fromis_9
@@mariasofiapascual8782 lesserafim and illit have more demands than flop fromis_9.
people are sick. this group deserves better
They deserve better❤
Sometimes when I am just listening to K-pop news like this, I put Spotify on 0 volume and stream their music. I feel so bad for them.
I hope they wont end up like gfriend😢😢😢
they will end up like gfriend
@@haeinlee-gn2tsthey won’t .. i have to say jojo siwa is less annoying then u
@@kokois4kpop OMG SO TRUE LIKE WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST OUR GIRLIES
@@pokyeomonlove FRR LIKE-
Seriously hated for wearing a mask even during covid 🙄 in my country people were beaten with sticks by police if they don't wear a mask 😑
I love Fromis9, they deserve more. I honestly thought they were disbanded at this point..
this is so heartbreaking, fromis is such a great group overall. If they got the attention from a bigger better company they could be front runners in the 4th generation. I want the best for them
These survival shows aren't a real competition. The groups formed like this are short lived unless they become a real money maker.
Wanna know what’s crazy they’re the most underrated group in Hybe, least problematic, least known, but they have incredibly good talents, but Hybe is just ignoring them. It’s like HyBe is allergic to talented groups and is always doing them bad justice. Same thing happened his Gfriend. A girl group with really good talents but they disbanded because Hybe was debuting Le sserafim just for Le sserafim to get backlash for being bad singers/ untalented idols(no hate to Le sserafim this is just an example I STILL LOVE Le sserafim tho)
The struggles of having fromis_9 as your ults(me) I will forever love them and will stand by them no matter how mistreated they are😔😭😭😭😭
I’m not hybe fan but They got the visuals and vocals hybe wants but they just don’t give a fuck as if it’s their not famous enough .🙄 then promote them ! thats just sad hybe manage so much that they don’t give a fuck as much.
Poor girls they don’t deserve this😢
i feel so bad for fromis_9! they really do deserve better 😕
They deserve far better
💯
they deserve to disband
i wish chaeyoung and fromis9 the best
Such a talented group ❤ but lack of management 😢
I watch a lot of their vlogs since thats all they could do for being shelved, the members would casually voice out “i wish we can release another song soon” this was back when Izone was still around.
even they got overshadowed by iz*one back then. fromis_9 should just disband, they are useless
@@haeinlee-gn2ts less useless than you. You probably get scolded everyday for stealing your friend's chocolate.
Wow, I never caught a video so early!
They deserve betterrrr:((
I pray this doesn’t happen to ILAND2s group as its an MNET survival show
Not HYBE 😂
God please! They might be the last group that I will stand, at least I want to see more of them! I stan 4minute before and they disbanded and it broke my heart. I hope fromis9's story will be a better story
i can only see jang gyuri there... after she left fromis 9 begin to sunk
the me:i picture when talking about i.o.i 😭😭😭 i just wish for fromis to be treated the way they deserve! their music slaps and they're such a great group, kept in the dungeon...
This reminds me of illit and r u next. It’s so sad
Awesome Information
they are preparing for a comeback. tune into the songs they have now (example. prom night & attitude) if you really care about them
reminds me of Amber case....she freakin want a comeback so badly but sm kept her in a dungeon.....
I miss channel 9...very good entertainment.
Tbh, this group was quite late debuted after Idol School contest. Moreover their debut song had cute, pure concept, which had already become outdated that days, so many people lost interest in them, especially netizens. The situation got worse after manipulation scandals on Mnet's shows. The group now doesn't have such a good reputation and popularity in Korea, despite their popularity around the world. It seems that the company wants to disband Fromis next year when their contracts end. I feel sorry for the girls for everything they have had to suffer these last 6 years. I believe that each girl will find her place in industry.
They’re the most mistreated group in hybe and they’re getting forgotten I wouldn’t be surprised if they disbanded ☹️
5:41 is literally a pic of WJSN and they aren’t even under Pledis, they’re under starship 🤨🤨🤨
Fromis_9 will always be my favorite! ❤
I have never heard their mv or songs but hearing this made my eyes teary i was like why?? It was never their fault at all, anyone who should be blamed is their company!! And if anyone thinks that they should disband then... i can't do anything about you at all because criticizing them will only led to depression, and then sucid3
These girls were such an eye candy to watch.
All good things must end I guess
Guys we should send a petition for Fromis_9 to leave Hybe and join a company that is willing to take them in and treat them like real artist
They are actually a great group. I am also surprised why they aren't even getting popular.
I really like this group. So underrated.
Fromis9 is one of my favorite groups. They are so awesome and the company's behavior is disgusting.
Finally fromis 9 is being talked about its a shame that its in this sense however