I'm pretty sure you can get Dirt 5 to run 60 fps with the 5700g overclocked everything but still air cooled. He didn't play it with his 5700g water cooled review but he should try it to see if I am right
Love these videos...Nice job! - One issue, and a warning you forgot to tell people.. if they buy one of these and a NEW 5600g -- How will they upgrade the bios if they don't have an old APU?
@@justinbailey6515 Work arounds wasn't the point. The point I was trying to make is the WARNING... that if someone sees this video, puts all these parts into newegg cart, purchases the product, and puts it all together, to find out, it doesn't boot, they might be upset they just spend $500+ dollars and they have to wait for work around hardware.. etc.. they might be upset..
Man I swear I love this kind of mini setup 💖 looks so elegant and discrete and at the same time you have an amazing performance. Keep doing those please!
Did you have to upgrade your BIOS prior to filming? I had bought an X300 and it came with v1.4, so I had to update it to v1.7 before I could use the APU I'd bought.
@@DanielNienhuis I bought a 3000G, installed it and then downloaded the updated BIOS file from the website and threw it on a USB drive like Daniel mentioned. After I upgraded the BIOS I pulled the 3000G and installed my 5700G and worked like a charm.
I built a 16 gb Ram, 1tB NVME, 1tB Sata, Server with a 4650G CPU out of this. This is mainly my Minecraft Server. It runs with 15 Watts. FIFTEEN WATTS!!!!! Insane.
In real life - not so much, but still we are talking 6 core vs 8 core CPU. In benchmarks : Cinebench R23 (Single-Core) +4% more for 5700G Cinebench R23 (Multi-Core) +28% more for 5700G Bottom line, if you can afford that extra 100 USD/Euro for 5700G then go for it, it's good for the future.
anyone trying this: the shroud was screwed on with two screws with the one i got, you can rip it off, but if you ever want to get that shroud back on, you should really just unscrew those and the shroud should come right off also getting that thing inside the case is somewhat of a hackjob, I think I'll replace it with a noctua LP NH-L9a if I'm opening this thing up again..
Yep, I just installed the wraith cooler and the fit is way to tight and is pushing on the case. I definitely recommend using a low profile CPU cooler instead.
The noctua NH-L9a-AM4 fits in this case snugly but perfectly, like it was made for this case. This will provide cooler and quieter operation for the 5600G or provide more than enough cooling power for a 5700G. 120watts really should be enough for the 5700G, especially if you cTDP down to 45watt. I've had my X300 for a few years and it has been running a 65w 2400G, 2x M.2 drives, and a SATA SSD. It has been flawless and the power supply has never struggled despite me using every bit of IO and CPU power this thing offers. Will probably upgrade to a 5700G after 6000/7000 series launch and bring down prices on 5700Gs.
@@gatienz435 I did. I put it in a different chassis since no amount of BIOS updates would allow the original X300 to recognize the 5700G, even though it's basically a chipset-less motherboard with no obvious changes to the latest version which does support the 5700G. If I didn't already have a spare mini tower case and motherboard I would have gotten the latest X300 as is still a brilliant chassis.
gpu wise it is pretty much the same, dont do it. I have both 3200g and a asus g14 laptop with r9 4900hs and the gpu of the new apu are pretty much the same perf wise.
Not with this mini barebones. With a larger M-ITX build like he did previously with 5700g, overclocked ram, cpu and gpu will smoke equally overclocked 3400G so in that case it would be worthy of an upgrade. Not so sure near stock clocks and not much voltage to play with.
Those asrock STX board are so cute - tiny little things, with the cpu socket taking up a good portion of the real estate, and the ram sockets quite a bit more. Where do they hide the chips for ethernet, wlan and vga!! ;)
if the x300 ships with an older bios version and does not recognize the 5600g, can you still launch the inital bios screen and update the bios? or do you need an older cpu?
Hello ETA, hope you're well. I'm thinking of buying this case/mobo/psu combo. I noticed you said you're limited for overclocking due to the 90w PSU. Do you think one of the 35w CPUs will allow for more overclocking and/or increase the lifespan of the mobo/case/psu combo?
This would be perfect for editing pics, I've been back and forth with the 5600g or the 5700g, it doesn't seem like it's worth the $100 to go to the 5700g for my needs. I wish you'd have shown more productivity scores, but I get that you are more of a gaming channel. I would love to know if there is a big enough difference from one chip to the other in rendering.
BTW, the stock fan fits, but only one of both possible ways! The fan shroud has some plastic bits sticking out that will interfere with the case when you slide it in, so when mounting the cooler make sure you orient them to the side where there's more space
I love my x300, I have an r5 3400g in it at the moment and it fly's along nicely. I replaced the stock cooler with an Arctic Alpine 12 cooler for 9 English pounds, added the 2 extra usb 2 slots (which you will really need), I got a decent intel wireless kit, 16gb of 3200 sodimm, and the Asrock motherboard allows a quite substantial overclock to chip and ram. I fully intend to swop the 3400g for a 5600g when the time is right.
Thanks to you, I'm waiting for all my parts to arrive on Thursday for this similar build. The 5600G is extremely hard to get in Malaysia without combo with motherboard
@@Moudiremoo all completed. Luckily had a friend at the computer shop that could supply all the parts and put it together. I used Id cooling is 47k as eta prime's previous build. The system is snippy fast super small, the size of a PSU
Hey man, glad to read you build your computer as planned. I live in Malaysia myself, near Port Dickson,. so not so close to any real IT shop. I'm thinking about getting a 5600G or 5700G without combo. Any recommendation of where to get this CPU? I've looked up online (Lazada) and prices range between RM1600 and RM2200+, so I'm a bit uncertain about reliability of the resellers...
I built my dad the older A300W for xmas and he loves it. Small, quick and does everything he needs. This might be a better option to buy so they can cut the cord.
The difference you're going to use in wattage between the 5700 G and the 5600 G really is negligible. Worst case scenario you could park 2cores 4 threads in ryzen master and still be able to benefit from the beefier GPU and the extra cores.
I built this, using a noctua low pro cooler, the 5700g and 64g ram. Nvme boot drive and 2 sata hdd. Runs great in stock form. No power issues, so far. Nice upgrade over the 3400g that I had.
Love the video, has anyone tried to put the 5700G in this platform with a power brick upgrade? ASUS makes a compatible 180 watt brick that was designed for laptops for about 50 bucks. That's what I want to attempt. Will the Noctua NH-l9a-am4 keep it under control?
I was also thinking why not upgrade the power brick too as items like optical drive, graphics tablet, any LEDs, PHONE CHARGING from USB sockets will all pull power. Good knowledge on the ASUS power brick. Thanks.
@philiptownsend4026 I did the build with the upgraded power brick and the 5700G. Thermals are staying managed fairly well with the Noctua low profile cooler. Fortunately, my version came with the latest BIOS revision, so it supported the 5700G right out of the box. Was even able to squeeze a tiny 40mm PWM Noctua fan in the back. Used graphene stickers for the ram and NVMe's. Shucked the sata ssds and mounted them to the chassis underside with thermal epoxy and raspberry Pi heatsinks. It's a packed sandwitch. But stays in the mid 60's to low 70's under load. Was even able to get a small but significant 400mhz overclock on the SODIMM ram. I am pleased with the build.
@@Johnvillafana also the ASUS power brick worked great and the micro system had the bios revision pre installed in my case to accommodate the 5700g. Under medium workloads, it maintains a nice 55 degrees C. At full workloads it does hover in the mid 70's with the Noctua cooler. I did shoehorn in a noctua PWM 40mm fan in the back plate, attached graphene stickers to the SSD's and RAM, stripped the 2.5 SSD's of their housings and put heatsinks on the chips.
@@Johnvillafana In my situation, I spec out the machine as follows. Ryzen 5700G, 64gb DDR4 SODIMM, Dual 4TB NVME, Dual 4tb 2.5, optional light strip, Noctua NH-l9a-am4 CPU cooler, Noctua 40mm PWM Fan crammed in the backplate. It was like building a layered sandwich, but got it all in there. LOL
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Yes, I'd love to see this exact same setup with the 5700G and some faster RAM, like the Corsair Vengeance SODIMM DDR4 which they have in speeds up to 4000mhz. I want to see if that power supply can handle all that with an iGPU overclock and maybe even a CPU overclock at the same time. I'm doubting it will but you never know 😁 P.s. Long time follower, LOVE your content Prime! Keep up the great work brother
It can't. Any other brick likely won't work either. I have looked this up. You can put a 5700g but to justify the extra $100 you really need to put this into an enthusiast M-ITX board with 200-300W of power and then OC everything, crush the GT-1030 DDR5 and with a drive update (if that is coming) nip the heels of the GT-1050.
Are you saying a 5700G APU miniPC system requires a 200-300W PSU? That's insane. My Lenovo desktop with a GTX1050Ti graphics card and intel CPU only had a 260W PSU.
@@blacksun472 on the chip alone ur right indeed but maybe not if one is willing to oc ram cpu and igpu and wants to use the usb c charging or multiple usb A‘s at the same time + more than one m.2, possibly, normal ssd‘s or even an hdd And if u go for a 5700 it’s not worth the upgrade over 5600 if one does not make use of the possible overclocking headroom one would find with a larger build with better cooling and more wattage supplied
@@dj4monie i just got one same setup here but i want to use a bigger power brick like 200watts. Is there any out there that will work? I tried looking with no luck 😞 someone said as long as its 19v you can is this correct?
That cpu with that cooler and with that shroud on will burn like a star. Plus wraith stealth has annoying tone. To anyone buying x300 and thinking of using wraith stealth, its fine i guess just replace the fan, any 25mm/92mm will do.another problem with stealth heatsink is that its thick enough to push fan against the mesh housing wich makes it acustics of it a lot.louder and holes on the mesh are too small to let through enough air so it will run hot and kinda loud. Noctua that fits inside is slightly better since its not right againts the mesh and cools 2-3 degrees better but still too hot. Just try it without the case and you will see. Also it WILL need setting lower powerlimits and temp limits in bios for everyday use so dont expect to run benchmarks as in the videos. Still i am happy with mine, just had to mod the case to fit wraith spire with copper core.
@@sevenatenine_7 I have a 1070 for 4 years now and it plays everything I wanted with 3900x. I just want a small built for fun. I have the larkbox for old emulation. Gonna put the big built for TV gaming and use 5600g for work.
@@bangity i bought the 5000 series (5600G) because it is the final lineup of B550M/B450M motherboard. By this time i'm just gonna wait for DDR5 markets (Zen 4, 5, and so on) to reach at affordable prices even if it takes 3-4 years. for now i'm saving my money to buy a GPU since 5600G offers good performance up to RTX 3060/3070.
Guys, if you buy these two items, the x300 & 5600G, please make sure you have the bios of the desk mini updated to the latest version, or you will not be able to use the 5600G. If you already have an older 3000 series or 2000 series APUs, then you may be able to upgrade the bios and use the 5000 series APU.
Exactly what happened to me. It just would not boot up. Everything built as it should be, all installed properly and checked several times, but what happens is this : Plug in and press the power button - > CPU fan comes on and orange light flashes and goes off, no image on the monitor, virtually nothing. I've had to order another older processor as a cheaper and quickest available option 3000G to just update the bios and will see what happens. I just wish I'd seen your comment sooner 😅
@@Legal_alien-li9ud I am in the exact same situation. Light flashes, fan spins, nothing else. I had assumed that I could update the BIOS with the 5600G installed, or flash it via USB. Now I'm waiting on a 200GE, just so that I can update the BIOS. What a pain!
@@DanielNienhuis some of my comments seem to get deleted 😅. I just wanted to say that I ended up cancelling the order for athlon, but instead using AMD CPU loan service , it's free and you just need to fill in the form with the details of your 5600g purchase and request an older CPU for BIOS update directly from AMD. They sent it out quickly and absolutely free of charge and I already updated mine and sending it back today. I hope this helps
I wonder if the PSU is proprietary or uses a standard laptop adapter (19.5V)? I wonder if the universal laptop adapter will work. If it works, maybe you can try purchase 1 with 150W or 180W and see if we can crank it a little bit more. Anyway, nice little review and it's good that you mention that the CPU cooler can fit into the case but need to have the shroud remove. We don't need to buy additional cooler.
Maybe the culprit for the reduced performance is the memory form-factor, instead of the stock clock speed. Faster memories can boost the integrated graphics output.
Just built one with a 5700G, 16gb Crucial 3200mhz, 1tb Samsung 980 and Noctua's low profile cooler... holy smokes.. silent and AMAZING.. BLOWS away the Asus PN51 badly!..
Please write the exact model of your cpu cooler and what are the numbers (frecuency) in your cpu, gpu and ram? Did you do any overclock? Please let me know... 🙏
I remember rocking an AMD A8 6600k for my first build, and running games on that was horrible but I still enjoyed it, APUs have really come a long way. Very potiential option for new first PC builds, especially with lack of GPUs on the market.
Are those ram sticks made with high density chips (one side, 4 chip = 1Rx16)? I just saw Linux tech tips comparing an amd ryzen system with similar rams vs lower density rams (8 chips 1Rx8) and they had about 20% lower performance with 1Rx16 rams.
I've got a 5700g in an x300. The x300 negates a lot of the minisforum amd products because it's just much cheaper to build your own. PSU handles the 5700g just fine even with PBO. You could also get a 180w adapter too. Also highly recommend the ID Cooling ISK47 with a noctua fan for cooling.
@@acejon2162 if total system power with 5600g goes close to 120w, 5700g would do at least 20w more even 30 or more overclocked. Nobody has tested 5700g with x300 yet for exact numbers
A year on, and that APU is now £120. I love how you have made a compact, casual gaming system out of those components. It's barely larger than my Steam Deck. That's the sort of kit that you could put under the living room TV, and no one would know it's there. You know what I would do with that? I would put it in an Arcade Cabinet. You know, even low settings give good quality game play these days. Low settings in games now, aren't like low settings in games used to be 20 years ago, say, when it was exceptionally noticeable.
I watched your video about the X300 Mini awhile back and got one as soon as I could. It's an awesome little machine. I had a 2200G laying around so I've been using that. I was contemplating the 5700G or the 5600G and have been waiting for the consumer release. But after watching this I think I will save $100 and order a 5600G. Thanks for the great video as always!
If i use the 5600g with 16 gb of mushkin redline 3200mz cl16 and a samsung 980, will it be close to a desktop pc in terms of performance or are the motherboard and laptop ram holding performance of the x300 a bit back? im just curious since im in the need of a small work pc that can handle the odd game, and i dont have a lot of experience with barebone solutions.
I am about to build my second time ever DIY PC. this is a home office PC, no gaming just normal use and casual basic video editing. I have a brand new, never used AMD Ryzen 2400G lying around, but came upon a great offer of Ryzen 5600G. My question - does it make sense to buy the newer CPU and will I feel a big difference between the two?
perfectly suited for me. as i use pc for light editing, mainly office and internet works. most important for me is less power consumption ☺️. i will look back if intel could make better on board graphic card on their chip ☺️
Interested in the video with the 5700g please and also please upload the emulation test with this build. I am about to make one for myself and want to make sure it has enough juice. Love your videos. Thanks in advance.... 🙏
While that is understandable, that is still a year off at minimum , and VEGA(GCN) is pretty well optimized for in gaming, as it was the Xbox One and PS4 architecture. So pretty much all games right now and probably for the next year will be well suited to play on GCN graphics options. Radeon won't really be optimized well, until another year at Minimum because games take 2 years+ roughly for production. If they "openly" support FSR on APU's then it will even be less of an issue.
@@vipast6262 I'm fine waiting, really in no rush since all of my primary PC's run dedicated cards right now, one strong enough for 4k and the rest 1080p on most games. Mostly interested in it for future portability (Steam Dock 2 / GPD 4 or Aya 2)
@@jrb363 yeah.. I wasn't saying you are wrong to wait, I am just saying for others out there, that if they need / want something now, that its ok to get this as it will hold ok performance for what you are getting.
This is awesome. Didn't know this STX form factor existed. I have a Ryzen 4500u based mini pc (like an AMD version NUC), and it's great, but it is running a mobile chip. I don't need a huge gamer desktop or GPU, but would like to use a desktop APU like 5600g or 5700g. I've been looking at what I thought was the next size up, Mini-ITX. But cool to know I have more options in between.
I did the same overclock as you with my X300w build using the 5600g but i do have the Noctua low profile cooler and I am surprised stays about 8c cooler than it did with the Wrath cooler and with the mem at 3400 and GPU at 2200 and volt bumped to same as yours it runs great and Dirt 2.0 on 1080p looks good and I get 40+fps with medium settings very happy with the bump in performance with your small overclock settings and still seems rock solid stable...edit as i returned with a benchmark and in Time spy all defalt running 1440 144hz screen I got 1523 with Graphics score 1341 and CPU score 6600 I am assuming it because I have the Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 cooler and that allowed mine to stay at higher clocks as it only hit 74c during the Time spy test ...just a FYI :-)
If they make an updated version with a very slight size increase to help with the wraith cooler by a few extra mm and a better power supply to support the 5700G and its overclock
I'm confused how you are getting above 60fps and do not need vysnc. how are you using freesync. I bought this gpu but I don't believe my motherboard hdmi port can go above 60hz
If you set CPU to 4.4GHz and use DDR4 4000 memory, CPU & 3D performance can raise a lot. I am sure Deskmini X300 can support this setting. 3D Mark Time Spy performance can raise to about 1761.(raise about 300.)
Would be nice to see a review of this unit running a Arch linux distro like Garuda or Endavour as test. Truly hope this would be possible to show as comparison to a Windows setup.
I find it awesome that the newer AMD APU 6core 12 thread can out perform my first gen 1700x in some tasks. I am looking forward to eventually upgrading to Ryzen 5000 series.
Its basically every task. The 5600G is 20% faster in multicore and 50% in single core workloads. There is no metric where the 1700X can win against the 5600G. 4650G is also ahead in every task, just by a lower margin.
@@te0nani can i run Nier Automata 720p smoothly on 4650g? Most of my task are lighter than playing Nier Automata Also, does this thing really support SATA on the back? Thank you!
@@Daniel-D97 There a several Videos on TH-cam showing Gameplay with Nier A and 4650G/5600G, just search and look if it is enough for you. SATA on the back? You mean eSATA? Or internal 2,5" SATA?
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"Dirt 5 is just one of those games that struggle on integrated graphics"
Me: This game struggles with my dedicated rx 580.
I'm pretty sure you can get Dirt 5 to run 60 fps with the 5700g overclocked everything but still air cooled. He didn't play it with his 5700g water cooled review but he should try it to see if I am right
@@dj4monie Nah it's running like shite on everything.
@@dj4monie You will be limited by the limited power supply rather than the heat.
Rx580 is the gfx equivalent of the 5600g.😂😂😂
@@BardicJim nah, its really not that bad tbh, dirt just runs like shit
Love these videos...Nice job! - One issue, and a warning you forgot to tell people.. if they buy one of these and a NEW 5600g -- How will they upgrade the bios if they don't have an old APU?
google for short term processor loan kit from amd. i would post link but youtube banbots says no...
If you can't get a loan kit from AMD, you could always buy a really cheap Athlon for the socket and use that for BIOS flashing.
@@justinbailey6515 Work arounds wasn't the point. The point I was trying to make is the WARNING... that if someone sees this video, puts all these parts into newegg cart, purchases the product, and puts it all together, to find out, it doesn't boot, they might be upset they just spend $500+ dollars and they have to wait for work around hardware.. etc.. they might be upset..
@@shadowtheimpure i doubt if you can find any athlon in the market right now since amd stop producing them.
@@stevenknight95 You can buy them new on Amazon right now.
My 5700g just arrived for my deskmini 🥳
So about as good as an original xbox one, but probably way better loading times with the CPU and SSD.
how does this compare to the minipcs like beelink?
Man I swear I love this kind of mini setup 💖 looks so elegant and discrete and at the same time you have an amazing performance. Keep doing those please!
"elegant and discrete" don't really get the discrete part, especially since it's missing discrete graphics! lol
@@realfastkx I suppose that the GPU integrated into CPU is quite discrete.
@@kofativ3205 lol
@@realfastkx ... and if they could put this power brick inside...
259$ processor
89$ ram
108$ N.V.M.E S.S.D
160$ Casing with motherboard
616$ total price without LCD and mouse and keyboard
thanks. But can be cheaper. Processor for 150, SSD - 256 gb also enough should be about 40$
This makes my laptop look gigantic
and my pc a mountain
@@rendoesmath mine mount Everest 🤣🤣
@@luff8858 😂😂😂😂
THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS, I've been requesting forever lmao, thanks soooo muchhh
Did you have to upgrade your BIOS prior to filming? I had bought an X300 and it came with v1.4, so I had to update it to v1.7 before I could use the APU I'd bought.
How did you update the BIOS? Mine is also on 1.4 (according to the sticker on the mobo) and I can't get anything to boot up.
@@DanielNienhuis I didn't get my APU yet, but upgrading the BIOS was easy, download put it on a FAT formatted USB sick, and Upgrade from the BIOS.
@@DanielNienhuis I bought a 3000G, installed it and then downloaded the updated BIOS file from the website and threw it on a USB drive like Daniel mentioned. After I upgraded the BIOS I pulled the 3000G and installed my 5700G and worked like a charm.
I built a 16 gb Ram, 1tB NVME, 1tB Sata, Server with a 4650G CPU out of this. This is mainly my Minecraft Server. It runs with 15 Watts. FIFTEEN WATTS!!!!! Insane.
Thanks for doing Genshin Impact. How does the 5600G compare to the 5700G, would there be any difference?
In real life - not so much, but still we are talking 6 core vs 8 core CPU.
In benchmarks :
Cinebench R23 (Single-Core) +4% more for 5700G
Cinebench R23 (Multi-Core) +28% more for 5700G
Bottom line, if you can afford that extra 100 USD/Euro for 5700G then go for it, it's good for the future.
The Asrock STX boards are awesome, I scored a cheap Intel board with an i5, perfect for a custom
there is only 1 nvme slot? was planning to boot with nvme and later get a gpu
anyone trying this: the shroud was screwed on with two screws with the one i got, you can rip it off, but if you ever want to get that shroud back on, you should really just unscrew those and the shroud should come right off
also getting that thing inside the case is somewhat of a hackjob, I think I'll replace it with a noctua LP NH-L9a if I'm opening this thing up again..
Yep, I just installed the wraith cooler and the fit is way to tight and is pushing on the case. I definitely recommend using a low profile CPU cooler instead.
The noctua NH-L9a-AM4 fits in this case snugly but perfectly, like it was made for this case. This will provide cooler and quieter operation for the 5600G or provide more than enough cooling power for a 5700G. 120watts really should be enough for the 5700G, especially if you cTDP down to 45watt.
I've had my X300 for a few years and it has been running a 65w 2400G, 2x M.2 drives, and a SATA SSD. It has been flawless and the power supply has never struggled despite me using every bit of IO and CPU power this thing offers.
Will probably upgrade to a 5700G after 6000/7000 series launch and bring down prices on 5700Gs.
Have you succesfuly upgradet to 5700G?
@@gatienz435 I did. I put it in a different chassis since no amount of BIOS updates would allow the original X300 to recognize the 5700G, even though it's basically a chipset-less motherboard with no obvious changes to the latest version which does support the 5700G. If I didn't already have a spare mini tower case and motherboard I would have gotten the latest X300 as is still a brilliant chassis.
I've got this pc with a 2200g at the moment so this looks like a great upgrade option. I'd like to see how well it emulates
gpu wise it is pretty much the same, dont do it. I have both 3200g and a asus g14 laptop with r9 4900hs and the gpu of the new apu are pretty much the same perf wise.
Me too but performance wise it's not worth it
It's still vega 8 though.
just get a dedicated gpu
Not with this mini barebones. With a larger M-ITX build like he did previously with 5700g, overclocked ram, cpu and gpu will smoke equally overclocked 3400G so in that case it would be worthy of an upgrade. Not so sure near stock clocks and not much voltage to play with.
Those asrock STX board are so cute - tiny little things, with the cpu socket taking up a good portion of the real estate, and the ram sockets quite a bit more. Where do they hide the chips for ethernet, wlan and vga!! ;)
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Would love to see with the ryzen 5700g
if the x300 ships with an older bios version and does not recognize the 5600g, can you still launch the inital bios screen and update the bios? or do you need an older cpu?
I think you need an older AM4 processor, like a 3200G.
Mine did not even boot up. Just the CPU fan. Ordered the 3000G just to update the BIOS, should fix the issue.
@@Legal_alien-li9ud thanks for confirming
I have been waiting for a Deskmini video!
Hello ETA, hope you're well.
I'm thinking of buying this case/mobo/psu combo.
I noticed you said you're limited for overclocking due to the 90w PSU. Do you think one of the 35w CPUs will allow for more overclocking and/or increase the lifespan of the mobo/case/psu combo?
i am excited for the apus with rdna since i have no budget right now.
I recommend you to stop hoping, because they start greedy now
Why would you buy an apu if you have no budget? You can get whatever you want
@@samgoff5289 APU should have been budget PC
@@samgoff5289 you got a point here
This would be perfect for editing pics, I've been back and forth with the 5600g or the 5700g, it doesn't seem like it's
worth the $100 to go to the 5700g for my needs. I wish you'd have shown more productivity scores, but I get that
you are more of a gaming channel. I would love to know if there is a big enough difference from one chip to the
other in rendering.
Thank God i found both of your comments, almost bought the 5700g. Only plan to play casual games (non heavy games)
I built an X300 with Ryzen 7 4750G & 64GB 3200mhz and it's brilliant, 2 slots for NVME aswell as 2x 2.5 SSD's. Perfect for a mini VM box
BTW, the stock fan fits, but only one of both possible ways! The fan shroud has some plastic bits sticking out that will interfere with the case when you slide it in, so when mounting the cooler make sure you orient them to the side where there's more space
I don't like it most of the games are on low settings 😕
I love my x300, I have an r5 3400g in it at the moment and it fly's along nicely. I replaced the stock cooler with an Arctic Alpine 12 cooler for 9 English pounds, added the 2 extra usb 2 slots (which you will really need), I got a decent intel wireless kit, 16gb of 3200 sodimm, and the Asrock motherboard allows a quite substantial overclock to chip and ram.
I fully intend to swop the 3400g for a 5600g when the time is right.
Does this thing really supporr SATA on the back? My budget quite tight rn..
Sure does
Thanks to you, I'm waiting for all my parts to arrive on Thursday for this similar build. The 5600G is extremely hard to get in Malaysia without combo with motherboard
how did it go?
@@Moudiremoo all completed. Luckily had a friend at the computer shop that could supply all the parts and put it together. I used Id cooling is 47k as eta prime's previous build. The system is snippy fast super small, the size of a PSU
@@redzuantahar thats great 👍
Hey man, glad to read you build your computer as planned. I live in Malaysia myself, near Port Dickson,. so not so close to any real IT shop. I'm thinking about getting a 5600G or 5700G without combo. Any recommendation of where to get this CPU? I've looked up online (Lazada) and prices range between RM1600 and RM2200+, so I'm a bit uncertain about reliability of the resellers...
Hows the fan noise?
it would be so cool if you got something like this in laptop form
I built my dad the older A300W for xmas and he loves it. Small, quick and does everything he needs. This might be a better option to buy so they can cut the cord.
The difference you're going to use in wattage between the 5700 G and the 5600 G really is negligible. Worst case scenario you could park 2cores 4 threads in ryzen master and still be able to benefit from the beefier GPU and the extra cores.
This seems really neat, definitely want to see that emulation video.
Please 5600G vs 5700G comparison!
Not only is that a great PC for SFF enthusiasts but a business could outfit all their employees with these.
I built this, using a noctua low pro cooler, the 5700g and 64g ram. Nvme boot drive and 2 sata hdd. Runs great in stock form. No power issues, so far. Nice upgrade over the 3400g that I had.
I think 64GB ram is a little overkill for this setup, for this price you can get a whole gpu, and fit it in a bigger case, plus 16 gb ram
I though 5600G is not supported in X300 or am I missing something?
Oh it updated
Love the video, has anyone tried to put the 5700G in this platform with a power brick upgrade? ASUS makes a compatible 180 watt brick that was designed for laptops for about 50 bucks. That's what I want to attempt. Will the Noctua NH-l9a-am4 keep it under control?
I was also thinking why not upgrade the power brick too as items like optical drive, graphics tablet, any LEDs, PHONE CHARGING from USB sockets will all pull power.
Good knowledge on the ASUS power brick. Thanks.
@philiptownsend4026 I did the build with the upgraded power brick and the 5700G. Thermals are staying managed fairly well with the Noctua low profile cooler. Fortunately, my version came with the latest BIOS revision, so it supported the 5700G right out of the box. Was even able to squeeze a tiny 40mm PWM Noctua fan in the back. Used graphene stickers for the ram and NVMe's. Shucked the sata ssds and mounted them to the chassis underside with thermal epoxy and raspberry Pi heatsinks. It's a packed sandwitch. But stays in the mid 60's to low 70's under load. Was even able to get a small but significant 400mhz overclock on the SODIMM ram. I am pleased with the build.
@@davidb1412 wow I’m building a similar build. what’s the name of the power brick ?
@@Johnvillafana also the ASUS power brick worked great and the micro system had the bios revision pre installed in my case to accommodate the 5700g. Under medium workloads, it maintains a nice 55 degrees C. At full workloads it does hover in the mid 70's with the Noctua cooler. I did shoehorn in a noctua PWM 40mm fan in the back plate, attached graphene stickers to the SSD's and RAM, stripped the 2.5 SSD's of their housings and put heatsinks on the chips.
@@Johnvillafana In my situation, I spec out the machine as follows. Ryzen 5700G, 64gb DDR4 SODIMM, Dual 4TB NVME, Dual 4tb 2.5, optional light strip, Noctua NH-l9a-am4 CPU cooler, Noctua 40mm PWM Fan crammed in the backplate. It was like building a layered sandwich, but got it all in there. LOL
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Yes, I'd love to see this exact same setup with the 5700G and some faster RAM, like the Corsair Vengeance SODIMM DDR4 which they have in speeds up to 4000mhz. I want to see if that power supply can handle all that with an iGPU overclock and maybe even a CPU overclock at the same time. I'm doubting it will but you never know 😁
P.s. Long time follower, LOVE your content Prime! Keep up the great work brother
It can't. Any other brick likely won't work either. I have looked this up. You can put a 5700g but to justify the extra $100 you really need to put this into an enthusiast M-ITX board with 200-300W of power and then OC everything, crush the GT-1030 DDR5 and with a drive update (if that is coming) nip the heels of the GT-1050.
Are you saying a 5700G APU miniPC system requires a 200-300W PSU? That's insane.
My Lenovo desktop with a GTX1050Ti graphics card and intel CPU only had a 260W PSU.
@@acejon2162 120W is enough for 65W 5700G.
@@blacksun472 on the chip alone ur right indeed but maybe not if one is willing to oc ram cpu and igpu and wants to use the usb c charging or multiple usb A‘s at the same time + more than one m.2, possibly, normal ssd‘s or even an hdd
And if u go for a 5700 it’s not worth the upgrade over 5600 if one does not make use of the possible overclocking headroom one would find with a larger build with better cooling and more wattage supplied
@@dj4monie i just got one same setup here but i want to use a bigger power brick like 200watts. Is there any out there that will work? I tried looking with no luck 😞 someone said as long as its 19v you can is this correct?
That cpu with that cooler and with that shroud on will burn like a star. Plus wraith stealth has annoying tone. To anyone buying x300 and thinking of using wraith stealth, its fine i guess just replace the fan, any 25mm/92mm will do.another problem with stealth heatsink is that its thick enough to push fan against the mesh housing wich makes it acustics of it a lot.louder and holes on the mesh are too small to let through enough air so it will run hot and kinda loud. Noctua that fits inside is slightly better since its not right againts the mesh and cools 2-3 degrees better but still too hot. Just try it without the case and you will see. Also it WILL need setting lower powerlimits and temp limits in bios for everyday use so dont expect to run benchmarks as in the videos. Still i am happy with mine, just had to mod the case to fit wraith spire with copper core.
I finally bought it after sold my 2400g at $180. so glad i did just before the scalpers ruined the price. 🤙
I have a 2400g too. Should I sell...
Ordered 5600g
@@bangity getting a dedicated gpu was a better idea
@@sevenatenine_7 I have a 1070 for 4 years now and it plays everything I wanted with 3900x. I just want a small built for fun. I have the larkbox for old emulation.
Gonna put the big built for TV gaming and use 5600g for work.
@@bangity i bought the 5000 series (5600G) because it is the final lineup of B550M/B450M motherboard. By this time i'm just gonna wait for DDR5 markets (Zen 4, 5, and so on) to reach at affordable prices even if it takes 3-4 years. for now i'm saving my money to buy a GPU since 5600G offers good performance up to RTX 3060/3070.
its interesting if you make a review x300 with 5700g
Guys, if you buy these two items, the x300 & 5600G, please make sure you have the bios of the desk mini updated to the latest version, or you will not be able to use the 5600G. If you already have an older 3000 series or 2000 series APUs, then you may be able to upgrade the bios and use the 5000 series APU.
Exactly what happened to me. It just would not boot up. Everything built as it should be, all installed properly and checked several times, but what happens is this :
Plug in and press the power button - > CPU fan comes on and orange light flashes and goes off, no image on the monitor, virtually nothing. I've had to order another older processor as a cheaper and quickest available option 3000G to just update the bios and will see what happens.
I just wish I'd seen your comment sooner 😅
TQ for the advice 🌝👍
@@Legal_alien-li9ud I am in the exact same situation. Light flashes, fan spins, nothing else. I had assumed that I could update the BIOS with the 5600G installed, or flash it via USB. Now I'm waiting on a 200GE, just so that I can update the BIOS. What a pain!
@@DanielNienhuis some of my comments seem to get deleted 😅. I just wanted to say that I ended up cancelling the order for athlon, but instead using AMD CPU loan service , it's free and you just need to fill in the form with the details of your 5600g purchase and request an older CPU for BIOS update directly from AMD. They sent it out quickly and absolutely free of charge and I already updated mine and sending it back today. I hope this helps
@@Legal_alien-li9ud I’ll look into that, thanks so much for the info!
I'm wondering if he had to update the BIOS with an older CPU or if this thing came with the new bios already installed.
I wonder if the PSU is proprietary or uses a standard laptop adapter (19.5V)? I wonder if the universal laptop adapter will work. If it works, maybe you can try purchase 1 with 150W or 180W and see if we can crank it a little bit more.
Anyway, nice little review and it's good that you mention that the CPU cooler can fit into the case but need to have the shroud remove. We don't need to buy additional cooler.
Really wanting to see EMULATION Results!
Not picking on you, I find it funny that you pronounce "Athlon" as "Ath-uh-lawn". Keep up the good work!
i also hear per-IF-ree-ul instead of per-IF-er-ul a lot (peripheral)
Set Overwatch's everything to Low ,but medium texture will give you some boost
I’d like to see this mini PC running the 5700g. Curious to see how it would perform & be worth spending the extra $100.
Maybe the culprit for the reduced performance is the memory form-factor, instead of the stock clock speed. Faster memories can boost the integrated graphics output.
Does anyone know if this comes with a power supply?
Just built one with a 5700G, 16gb Crucial 3200mhz, 1tb Samsung 980 and Noctua's low profile cooler... holy smokes.. silent and AMAZING.. BLOWS away the Asus PN51 badly!..
Please write the exact model of your cpu cooler and what are the numbers (frecuency) in your cpu, gpu and ram?
Did you do any overclock? Please let me know... 🙏
Could you add DDR 4 4000mzh to this build?
5700G build with this casing please.
Imagine how the 5700G gpu will perform with DDR5 RAM?
I have Deskmini H310W with i5 9400, ballistix ram 16gb pair ddr3
I remember rocking an AMD A8 6600k for my first build, and running games on that was horrible but I still enjoyed it, APUs have really come a long way. Very potiential option for new first PC builds, especially with lack of GPUs on the market.
Are those ram sticks made with high density chips (one side, 4 chip = 1Rx16)? I just saw Linux tech tips comparing an amd ryzen system with similar rams vs lower density rams (8 chips 1Rx8) and they had about 20% lower performance with 1Rx16 rams.
Yup looks like single rank RAM to me.
thank you!
I've got a 5700g in an x300. The x300 negates a lot of the minisforum amd products because it's just much cheaper to build your own.
PSU handles the 5700g just fine even with PBO. You could also get a 180w adapter too.
Also highly recommend the ID Cooling ISK47 with a noctua fan for cooling.
do you have the review of your own x300 with 5700g? please let me know..
Did you have to update the BIOS ?
I too am interes in how you got that running without updating bios.
Where did you find the 180 watt adapter??? I looked everywhere with no luck
Hi ETA, can u test android emulator and run game like ragnarok x or any mmorpg? Thanks
5600g is a beast! I tested many games in 5600g and in 99% all is playable in 1080p :D You can check my channel
Would love to see what could be done with the 5700G in this case.
It runs hot as hell and loud, and also will kill the psu with time since it spikes far beyond 120w maximum that x300 comes with
What wattage does the 5700G pull?
@@acejon2162 if total system power with 5600g goes close to 120w, 5700g would do at least 20w more even 30 or more overclocked. Nobody has tested 5700g with x300 yet for exact numbers
This thing literally look like power supply
Dude you are a video pumping machine!
A year on, and that APU is now £120. I love how you have made a compact, casual gaming system out of those components. It's barely larger than my Steam Deck. That's the sort of kit that you could put under the living room TV, and no one would know it's there. You know what I would do with that? I would put it in an Arcade Cabinet. You know, even low settings give good quality game play these days. Low settings in games now, aren't like low settings in games used to be 20 years ago, say, when it was exceptionally noticeable.
I watched your video about the X300 Mini awhile back and got one as soon as I could. It's an awesome little machine. I had a 2200G laying around so I've been using that. I was contemplating the 5700G or the 5600G and have been waiting for the consumer release. But after watching this I think I will save $100 and order a 5600G. Thanks for the great video as always!
Does it support 5700G processor for this motherboard??
You need bios version 1.70 for a 5700G prozessor.
If i use the 5600g with 16 gb of mushkin redline 3200mz cl16 and a samsung 980, will it be close to a desktop pc in terms of performance or are the motherboard and laptop ram holding performance of the x300 a bit back? im just curious since im in the need of a small work pc that can handle the odd game, and i dont have a lot of experience with barebone solutions.
5700G is in the mail from newegg with a Chopin case...I cant wait to get it all set up! Thanks for the inspiration!
You think 5700g will work great ?
@@sadikbroboniqi6744 for me it made a huge difference coming from a 3400G.
could you please let me know if you had to update the bios for the APU to be recognized?
Please make a video about this case with the 5700g with some gaming and emulation!!! I love your channel... 🙏
I am about to build my second time ever DIY PC. this is a home office PC, no gaming just normal use and casual basic video editing.
I have a brand new, never used AMD Ryzen 2400G lying around, but came upon a great offer of Ryzen 5600G.
My question - does it make sense to buy the newer CPU and will I feel a big difference between the two?
Man, I'm excited for the Ryzen 6000 version of these. Imagine building this with RDNA2. Great mini PCs are upon us.
perfectly suited for me. as i use pc for light editing, mainly office and internet works. most important for me is less power consumption ☺️. i will look back if intel could make better on board graphic card on their chip ☺️
Interested in the video with the 5700g please and also please upload the emulation test with this build. I am about to make one for myself and want to make sure it has enough juice. Love your videos. Thanks in advance.... 🙏
How does it handle emulation compared to the 5700G?
If you compare the benchmarks for both, not a significant difference.
Both already capable of running upto PS3 games I believe.
Looks good, but I'm waiting for RDNA2 integrated graphics before I consider purchasing an iGPU.
While that is understandable, that is still a year off at minimum , and VEGA(GCN) is pretty well optimized for in gaming, as it was the Xbox One and PS4 architecture. So pretty much all games right now and probably for the next year will be well suited to play on GCN graphics options. Radeon won't really be optimized well, until another year at Minimum because games take 2 years+ roughly for production. If they "openly" support FSR on APU's then it will even be less of an issue.
@@vipast6262 I'm fine waiting, really in no rush since all of my primary PC's run dedicated cards right now, one strong enough for 4k and the rest 1080p on most games. Mostly interested in it for future portability (Steam Dock 2 / GPD 4 or Aya 2)
@@jrb363 yeah.. I wasn't saying you are wrong to wait, I am just saying for others out there, that if they need / want something now, that its ok to get this as it will hold ok performance for what you are getting.
Thanks for the content ETA. Could you keep an eye out for the DeskMini Max? I’m interested if you are brother! Lol 🤙🏽
This is awesome. Didn't know this STX form factor existed. I have a Ryzen 4500u based mini pc (like an AMD version NUC), and it's great, but it is running a mobile chip. I don't need a huge gamer desktop or GPU, but would like to use a desktop APU like 5600g or 5700g. I've been looking at what I thought was the next size up, Mini-ITX. But cool to know I have more options in between.
Putting a PGA CPU pins down triggers me so hard.
Soyboy much?
Would be awesome with the 5700G and the bequiet Shadow Rock LP or Noctua NH-L9i cooler (the ryzen wraith stealth is very noisy for my taste)
Could you please add CSGO more often to your bench test thank you
I did the same overclock as you with my X300w build using the 5600g but i do have the Noctua low profile cooler and I am surprised stays about 8c cooler than it did with the Wrath cooler and with the mem at 3400 and GPU at 2200 and volt bumped to same as yours it runs great and Dirt 2.0 on 1080p looks good and I get 40+fps with medium settings very happy with the bump in performance with your small overclock settings and still seems rock solid stable...edit as i returned with a benchmark and in Time spy all defalt running 1440 144hz screen I got 1523 with Graphics score 1341 and CPU score 6600 I am assuming it because I have the Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 cooler and that allowed mine to stay at higher clocks as it only hit 74c during the Time spy test ...just a FYI :-)
If they make an updated version with a very slight size increase to help with the wraith cooler by a few extra mm and a better power supply to support the 5700G and its overclock
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I'm confused how you are getting above 60fps and do not need vysnc. how are you using freesync. I bought this gpu but I don't believe my motherboard hdmi port can go above 60hz
Thank you！ please do a 5700G overclock setup and test with x300 ！！！
HI @ETA! Are you running Bios v1.60? or bios v1.70?
Excellent video as usual. Informative, great timestamps. Thank you! Keep rocking dude. There's no other channel like yours.
this one is for those that wants their monitor to look bigger than it is xD
jokes aside, i'd love one of these!
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Is there a higher watt PSU that might work? :)
I'd also like to know if using a higher spec power supply would work.
Can we get an emulation video with this cpu? Thanks
If you set CPU to 4.4GHz and use DDR4 4000 memory, CPU & 3D performance can raise a lot. I am sure Deskmini X300 can support this setting. 3D Mark Time Spy performance can raise to about 1761.(raise about 300.)
Of course, you also have to overclock both the Ryzen's Fabric thingy and the memory, since they don't make sodimm lpddr4-4000 ram.
Would be nice to see a review of this unit running a Arch linux distro like Garuda or Endavour as test. Truly hope this would be possible to show as comparison to a Windows setup.
Case Vinga CS112B, power supply 1St Player PS-600FK. Two plants 8 gb DDR4 3200 mhz.
I find it awesome that the newer AMD APU 6core 12 thread can out perform my first gen 1700x in some tasks. I am looking forward to eventually upgrading to Ryzen 5000 series.
Its basically every task. The 5600G is 20% faster in multicore and 50% in single core workloads. There is no metric where the 1700X can win against the 5600G. 4650G is also ahead in every task, just by a lower margin.
@@te0nani can i run Nier Automata 720p smoothly on 4650g? Most of my task are lighter than playing Nier Automata
Also, does this thing really support SATA on the back? Thank you!
@@Daniel-D97 There a several Videos on TH-cam showing Gameplay with Nier A and 4650G/5600G, just search and look if it is enough for you. SATA on the back? You mean eSATA? Or internal 2,5" SATA?
@@te0nani thank you for the reply! I mean 2.5 SATA
I watch other video about Deskmini and it seems it support HDD and SATA
@@Daniel-D97 2 internal 2,5" SATA are supported in the X300, no matter if they're SSDs or HDDs.
Is there any difference between DeskMini X300 and X300W?
Your video discription lists "Sodium" ram :P