For people who are wondering why gogeta turned into stone is because his fusion was probably bout to run out and he released all the energy in his body similar to vegetas final atonement as a last ditch effort since the stardust breaker didn’t work
Bruh this was like the one Death Battle that made sense for both sides, the conclusion, and the explanation was decent. Yet Dontai's chat still copes, it feels like they don't even bother to listen to the video.
I've seen many livestream chats debate about the dumbest things, especially when the information is presented right in front of them they proceed to cope because their favourite character loses. Their just trying to cope the loss despite being presented the facts.
Nah it was wrong death battle legitimately got multiple things wrong again lol but it was a cool fight but my god half the conclusion was terribly wrong like one example is the kefla fight Goku was weaker in that fight literally saying at the end one blast hits him and he is a goner.
@@kingpizza1854 I think you're forgetting that goku was technically not weaker during that fight, he was just not used to fighting with ultra instinct, even whis confirmed it when goku even attempted to attack kefla. The fact is he managed to actually hurt her even if his attacks were not entirely enough to keep her down. If you remember correctly, when goku first used the form he was always on the defense because he could not simultaneously defend and attack, he needed more time to adjust to the power he was wielding and the kefla fight became a start for that, he began to test out his offensive capabilities but as a result he was having trouble maintaining the form because he was not used to how his muscles reacted to the power. Goku was certainly strong enough but his strength was interrupted by his lack of trying to focus on attacking, its even justified when goku does that air punch, he begins to show struggle in that moment. Whis: "Kefla san's vigor is indeed impressive, but at present Goku san's attacks are ineffective. It's likely because he can't fully utilize Ultra Instinct when he switches to attack." Had he been able to adjust more quickly to ultra instinct, his offensive attacks would have definitely had more effect. Just look at true ultra instinct, he's in his base form but using ultra instinct to adjust his speed and reflexes, in addition to the fact that he doesn't have to shield his emotions to use the power to its full potential.
Idk what the hell that donation was saying. This wasn’t canon Vegito vs canon Gogeta. They took everything. Heroes, Xenoverse, you name it. They literally say so in the video.
Even if it was that wouldn't mean appearance from the specific point in time which is canon , it's about the fusion so both sides of Goku and Vegeta have equal powerlevels . Vegitoblue from before and Gogetablue from later doesn't make sense cuz pretty much everyone can guess the result .
Yeah even if they used canon version they’d be the same Goku and Vegeta so they would both be the same power level. Gogeta has a shorter timelimit and Vegeto’s fusion can have a greater “effect”
@@sxcrifice_x honestly if they used heroes it would have been a mess all these power ups I'm mean super Saiyan 3 rose like comon I mean they should have just left out heroes all together and most people wouldn't even care if it was included but I can kinda see why they mentioned though
How can anyone be mad at this? I'm a gogeta fan and I am hyped AF at the fact that Vegito used kaioken at the end to kill him and fist bumped after which was wholesome. In an alternative scenario I see gogeta learning from his mistake with stardust breaker as Vegito isn't evil at all instead using a kaioken empowered blue big bang Kamehameha. Thanks to hambreth commenter for pointing out the kaioken Vegito used at the end for a split second to win. Good stuff!
They’re both amazing fusions, but yeah- Vegito has always been said to be the stronger/better fusion of the two. I don’t understand why people see that as such a bad thing, Gogeta isn’t any less cool just because Vegito is stronger.
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel yeah, it makes sense too since a god needs to give you the potora earrings. It makes me think of sharingan being a weaker rinnegan basically from Naruto. However weirdly enough it is more convenient to find those yardratians to learn fusion then getting those potora earrings in general. Vegito can use up his power quicker since he's stronger with more power output which can be an issue while Gogeta since in general he would have less time his power output during that time can be argued could be better controlled since he needs to get the job done. I do agree with the outcome though.
Oh just to say gogeta also transformed as super saiyan blue evolved at the end so it would be alittle equal in power at the end cause if vegito only transformed at the end it’s would be unfair in power.
Bruh you got a anime pfp, you can’t talk but it’s basically like a total amounts of their power so there tryna scale them up to be more fair so that the saga power differences don’t get in the way.
Using soul punisher wasn’t smart, because it only attacks evil. Meaning that any being that is evil upon being hit by it will have their soul destroyed and Vegito is literally them so Gogeta would know not to use it.
as a Vegito fan its very funny to see some gogeta fans raging and not even listening to the explanation, I overall like Vegito more because i like cocky characters, although if you are a Gogeta fan i'd say watch the first version of this fight
if we are being totally honest though, when you really pay attention to how things went down even that fight is going to be pretty close. Vegito in the manga was stated to be just as strong as beerus, possibly even a little stronger. Gogeta in broly was stated by whis that he may even be able to take on lord beerus. this implies that FUTURE SAGA vegito is on the level of gogeta made from POST TOURNAMENT OF POWER goku and vegeta. based off that knowledge and every official source saying that potara makes a better fusion, if both fusions were made by the same goku and vegeta, the fight wouldn't even be close.
Anyone using the "they are equal trump cards" statement to compare Fusion and Potara should note that the statement did not come from Toriyama, nor was it Toriyama approved. It was promotional material. Potara is outright stronger than Fusion and there's no debate, the Daizenshuu 7 confirms this (a guide approved by Toriyama). If the Goku and Vegeta fusing to make Gogeta are equal to the Vegito's counterparts, then Vegito stomps no difficulty. Sorry, I love Gogeta too.
Do you have any sources that the statement was not Toriyama approved? Because anything published to the public of Dragon ball IS Toriyama approved since he still to this day owns Dragon ball z, and Super.
@@justzombie Ah no. shueisha owns it. they can do what they want without toriyamas approval. how do you think so many things for dragon ball came out in the 19 years after toriyama "ended" dragon ball.
Yeah people were getting mad saying it should have worked since the fusion has Vegeta but they dont remember that Vegito is his own being seperate from Goku and Vegeta same goes wjth Gogeta
Thank you for posting this I missed this stream due to not actually being at home And my god it sucked knowing he watched this and I was saving that video to watch it with him and knowing his videos get blocked got my mood to be low But this really did clutch tf up Thank you
Elder Kai and databooks have stated that Potara is a better way of fusing than Fusion Dance. Vegito was even stated as the perfect warrior when Gogeta has not. Vegito in the Goku Black Arc was stated to be Beerus level while Gogeta fought Broly who was stated around Beerus level by Goku (who has not seen full power Beerus). And also to Gogeta being funny and doing bits in battle. Vegito fucking trained Buuhan in the middle of the battle like bro what type of fighter does that. Vegito>Gogeta
im a Gogeta fan but this ending makes sense - Gogeta is only really at his strongest when facing an evil opponent, which Vegito isn't, meaning Gogeta's strongest moves are completely ineffective. if vegito was evil gogeta would probably win
Toriyama said they equals in power, but even if Vegito wasn't evil this fight could've went either way 😁. I feel like if Gogeta performed Dragon Fist faster he could've had it
@@FaithInIt1 Trust me 😂 head to head they equal, but Vegito still wins cuz Gogeta can only stay fused for 30 mins. I just wish Death Battle had showed Gogeta defusing before he got blasted
@@Phantdaya7x no. he called them equal trump cards. implying that both fusions would have easily gotten the job done. difference in wording is key. plus he himself also wrote the story that multiple times said potara is stronger.
I find it really funny that despite the fact that Vegito and Gogeta are nearly the same character with next to no differences aside from some special moves the debate about which one is stronger is so heated that DB fans will bitch about it even after being given a completely logical argument for one side.
Vegito only unfuse when they surpass there limit too quick. Potara earrings hardly control the power cuz it’s too much vegito would be too broken if they didn’t have a limit to the earring
If I'm correct, Vegito defused against Zamasu because he used too much energy not because of the Final Kamehameha but it probably because of SSGSS(It was stated how SSGSS does have energy drain as and as SSJ3, while in the DBS Broly Movie they could've reduced the energy drain which could explain Gogeta lasting longer in Blue than Vegito) while for SSJ4 Gogeta it was his Big Bang Kamehameha(Goku was able to sleep in SSJ4 without detransforming)
Don’t know how anyone could expect any stronger reasoning than that. The differences they gave to Vegito are pretty much the only differences between the characters.
5:00 he gets the job done huh?what about omega and broly he literally went and toyed with both of them and didn't get the job done literally only once does he get the job done and don't go saying oh well he was beating broly, if this man wasn't play he would go blue at the start and just kill broly then and there but no he played with him and didn't get the job done
People just assume seriousness is only of and all of Gogeta despite clear evidence that the personality varies by the thought process of Goku and Vegeta on each occassion .
Please watch Gt if you are going to use Gt as your counter. Gogeta toyed with Omega to make him use his negative energy to weaken him severely and to get rid of the negative energy. Learn before you speak.
People don't know how powerfull is vegito. The potara multiplayer the power level means while the fusion dance added the power level. For example Fusion dance : A + B Potara : A × B + the rival boost I don't care what toriyama says about the 2 being equal. It makes sense those 2 being equal. So yeah vegito win. They got this right which is surprising.
They would win and I'm saying this a gogeta fan, but I wouldn't be surprised if let's say they had a rematch and this time gogeta doesn't joke much in the fight like here and take the dub, I do think gogeta has a better general arsenal of skills honestly. Still just based on what's shown and said it makes more sense for Vegito to be stronger as you said or as it's potora earrings from a god while fusion dance is from an unknown race that is obviously not gods based on what we know so far. This is one of those fights were time limit, personality and skills is so close it could go either way but potora earrings are harder to get so it should be stronger in all honesty.
Actually both the fusion and potara have the same effects. Although I'm not sure about the rival boost, in the Broly movie, Gogeta states that their powers aren't just added together, but are significantly magnified. Magnification would mean that it would most likely work in the same way and Death Battle/Rooster Teeth probably knew this. If you go based on just the example you used, Gogeta would have never stood a chance. But they've explained that their power levels are only slightly different, meaning that the same multiplier is most likely used. Not to mention the fusees needing to match their power level to do the fusion dance variant. So perhaps the rival boost still exists for Gogeta as well. But I don't know. Either way, the problem of matching power levels is the primary reason for why Gogeta lost this fight.
Both multiply their energy. Vegito just doesn’t need his two parts to be equal in power, therefore he gets the full potential of Goku. EDIT: Also you people complain way too much about the results of DB, they’re far more reliable than you random neckbeards
@@watchery.819 That includes you ironically if you're agreeing to him . Both fusions wouldn't be nearly as powerful as they are if it was just addition in either of them , would pretty much get rekt by whoever they've faced and stomped . Omega , Broly , Janemba all were sh*tting on both Goku and Vegeta with their forms , what makes you think fusing would make any difference if it was just addition? Hell Goku ssj3 would be 4 times more powerful than Super Gogeta who one shot Janemba .
For gogeta fans who really want to see gogeta win death battle did make another gogeta vs vegito fight before this one where the fans chose who they wanted to win and gogeta ended up winning. It was a dbx I believe
For the people wondering why Gogeta got turned to stone and/or dust it's actually a reference to Dragon Ball Heroes where gogeta and Vegeta did have a fight like this and Vegeta also won there turning Gogeta to dust.
I'm surprised no one is talking about how Vegito's "cockiness" vs Buu was the entire plan? Like he's definitely been proven to be more serious and more intelligent than Gogeta. I would like to blame that on the timings, bc sometimes DB writers get out of hand. They should realistically both be exponentially smarter than both Goku and Vegeta. Gotenks also gives a good example of their intelligence too, albeit they mostly had to show this through techniques. They were still the fusion of two children with little information, so Gotenks turns out to be an ignorant genius.
@@justzombie how are they equal if goku has to lower his power level to vegetas power level to form gogeta and it only combines their power level when they form vegito they are at full power and the potara multiply their power x100 so how are they equal 😂😂😂
if we are being totally honest though, when you really pay attention to how things went down even that fight is going to be pretty close. Vegito in the manga was stated to be just as strong as beerus, possibly even a little stronger. Gogeta in broly was stated by whis that he may even be able to take on lord beerus. this implies that FUTURE SAGA vegito is on the level of gogeta made from POST TOURNAMENT OF POWER goku and vegeta. based off that knowledge and every official source saying that potara makes a better fusion, if both fusions were made by the same goku and vegeta, the fight wouldn't even be close.
One thing they forgot to mention and didn't bother talking about is that in the manga, Goku black arc vegito was stated to be stronger than Beerus while broly movie gogeta was equal to Beerus so in reality if they used the same Goku and Vegeta for both fusions then vegito would be way stronger
That's hard to debate because that statement is said by Supreme kaioshin. That kaioshin has never seen beerus in his full power. Not to mention that Gogeta didn't surpass beerus because when Vegeta fights Beerus after broly (meaning Moro and granolah arc), beerus easily destroys vegeta with no effort. Meaning not only is Vegeta stronger than Broly and that Gogeta, but so is beerus
@@CasualCat64 that one was a ball, and it wasn't like the original, in fusion reborn Gogeta crushes the ball into dust and it does no damage to janemba from hitting him. You are wrong. And even if you weren't, it clearly did no damage to vegito anyway. It isn't a super powerful, destructive attack.
I remember from soooo long ago the first time I saw Vegito, Instantly became my favorite fusion. I definitely fw Gogeta tho but my goat is just him🤷🏽♂️
As a gogeta fan there’s actually zero possibility vegito is losing to gogeta he’s literally stated to be the strongest fusion using a method that took the best of the 2 and combined instead of taking 50/50
The thing about this fight that's BS is the fact that it would take more than 30 minutes for either one to beat the other. As we seen with Goku vs Vegeta 2 they where somewhat evenly matched. Not even that fight had a clear winner after all that time, who knows how long it would've taken. We all know in Dragon Ball fights with equal power levels never have a winner.
It’s funny how when you take ALL DB story elements into play Vegito > Gogeta but CANONICALLY, Gogeta doesn’t suffer from maxing out his power the same way Vegito does, so he would probably either overwhelm or outlast Vegito
Dude they mess up a lot in their calcs but this was clear cut... Even if they are almost equal at their peak, either Vegeta or Goku is a little bit stronger, even if just barely. So Let's asume that Goku = 1000 and Vegeta = 999 Vegito has 1999 Gogeta has 1998 (because Goku would lower his power to match Vegeta's 999) No debate
While i understand the thought process. What I don’t get is this. Vegeta and Goku were completely tapped of energy fighting broly when they retreated and had no senzu beans. So to me it would not make sense that lowering a powerlevel would make a difference since fusion already allows them to tap into forms as high as ssb despite fusing with almost no energy. Before fusing into vegito in the future arc, goku and vegeta ate senzu beans then fused. Like by our own logic on how the fusion dance even works, shouldn’t they be in ssb if it matters about powerlevels matching and stuff, why would power be forfeit the moment someone lowers their power level a little? Like by this logic, fusion in base should not allow them to even go super saiyan. So wouldn’t it just make sense to say the technique of fusing is far harder than potara and there is no power difference? The requirements are different but the power would still be the same.
@@terrakage4462 Goku was also banged up when he first fused into Vegetto against buu, he was taking quite a beating. I think the fusion revitalizes you somewhat, but not entirely but this is headcannon XD About he SSB thing, I think it's easier to use the fusion dance in base first, because you don't have to worry about multipliers, and Goten and Trunks proved that fusions can transform as well so why risk a misfusion ?
Vegito wins. Its that simple. Its literally confirmed in the manga too. People think gogeta stronger just because he was the most recent fusion n was in 2 movies. Biases . I love them both. But Vegito obviously is stronger. Geekdom 101 n seththeprogrammer explains it well
Gogetas stardust breaker pnly damaged vegito but not erase him is due to the fact that stardust breaker only erases pure evil being like janiemba, an example is broly, he didnt get erased because broly is not evil when gogeta used his attack and gogeta even smiled because he knew broly wasnt evil
Soul punisher only destroys enemies with a bad heart/Soul, in other word vegito has a pure heart just like gogeta wich means he cannot be damaged by that attack. Also Vegito has Blue Kaioken x20 so yeah ggs
Anyone notice that when they were analyzing Gogeta and him and Broly went into the glass-shatter-realm thing he goes ImDontai says “What the” at the exact time that Gogeta wud? Just throwing that out there Another thing, Vegito did the same hand movements as Gogeta did on Broly just before countering his attack, Gogeta also did the exact same thing that he did to Omega Shenron after hitting Vegito with with the Bluff Kamehameha, there’s so much k can go on for days
The movie made both look good. Broly had no skill and was making Goku and Vegeta struggle to the point they had to leave and come back as Gogeta and still pushing him to go blue
@@purplehaze4942 yea pushing was an exaggeration but still SSJ Broly and SSJ Gogeta were exchanging blows with Gogeta with an advantage. Broly went FPSSJ and gave Gogeta some good hits which then he goes Blue
For people who are wondering why gogeta turned into stone is because his fusion was probably bout to run out and he released all the energy in his body similar to vegetas final atonement as a last ditch effort since the stardust breaker didn’t work
OHH THAT MAKES SENSE.
Oh right, that actually seems more logical tbh
Wouldn't his fusion run out anyways since he was out of energy?
Doesn’t make any sense actually, vegito would have used up all of his power considering the fact he used blue earlier
@@tcplays4371 he lasts longer
This is actually surprising, almost every death battle reaction skips the explanation and then rages bcs their fav didn't win
Your only there for the fight
The explanation is for people who want so more depth
I usually skip the analysis then see the explanation at the end, if it makes sense for my fav to lose I'll take the L
@@Ninjamation345 exactly also it’s long
yeah his chat took that place lmao, they obviously completely ignored the analysis part and got hella mad when gogeta lost
Bruh this was like the one Death Battle that made sense for both sides, the conclusion, and the explanation was decent. Yet Dontai's chat still copes, it feels like they don't even bother to listen to the video.
That’s Gogeta fanboys for you. It’s stated in every Dragonball guide in existence that The Potara is the better/stronger method of fusion.
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel Indeed.
I've seen many livestream chats debate about the dumbest things, especially when the information is presented right in front of them they proceed to cope because their favourite character loses.
Their just trying to cope the loss despite being presented the facts.
Nah it was wrong death battle legitimately got multiple things wrong again lol but it was a cool fight but my god half the conclusion was terribly wrong like one example is the kefla fight Goku was weaker in that fight literally saying at the end one blast hits him and he is a goner.
@@kingpizza1854 I think you're forgetting that goku was technically not weaker during that fight, he was just not used to fighting with ultra instinct, even whis confirmed it when goku even attempted to attack kefla.
The fact is he managed to actually hurt her even if his attacks were not entirely enough to keep her down.
If you remember correctly, when goku first used the form he was always on the defense because he could not simultaneously defend and attack, he needed more time to adjust to the power he was wielding and the kefla fight became a start for that, he began to test out his offensive capabilities but as a result he was having trouble maintaining the form because he was not used to how his muscles reacted to the power.
Goku was certainly strong enough but his strength was interrupted by his lack of trying to focus on attacking, its even justified when goku does that air punch, he begins to show struggle in that moment.
Whis: "Kefla san's vigor is indeed impressive, but at present Goku san's attacks are ineffective. It's likely because he can't fully utilize Ultra Instinct when he switches to attack."
Had he been able to adjust more quickly to ultra instinct, his offensive attacks would have definitely had more effect.
Just look at true ultra instinct, he's in his base form but using ultra instinct to adjust his speed and reflexes, in addition to the fact that he doesn't have to shield his emotions to use the power to its full potential.
No one gonna mention how vegito goes kaioken for a second That was so dope
Wait he did? Hold up I need to triple check I didn't notice that
@@Pack52022 yea go back you can see the red aura for the final push
he goes ssb kaioken in dragon ball super heroes aswell
If you look closely gogeta also goes blue evolved for a moment
@@MyNamesDeezZz we know
it is literally stated in the video
Idk what the hell that donation was saying. This wasn’t canon Vegito vs canon Gogeta. They took everything. Heroes, Xenoverse, you name it. They literally say so in the video.
Even if it was that wouldn't mean appearance from the specific point in time which is canon , it's about the fusion so both sides of Goku and Vegeta have equal powerlevels . Vegitoblue from before and Gogetablue from later doesn't make sense cuz pretty much everyone can guess the result .
Yeah even if they used canon version they’d be the same Goku and Vegeta so they would both be the same power level. Gogeta has a shorter timelimit and Vegeto’s fusion can have a greater “effect”
Oh they said they wasn’t doing heroes cause how inconsistent they are and on how they use gogeta more than vegito
@@sxcrifice_x they did
@@sxcrifice_x honestly if they used heroes it would have been a mess all these power ups I'm mean super Saiyan 3 rose like comon I mean they should have just left out heroes all together and most people wouldn't even care if it was included but I can kinda see why they mentioned though
How can anyone be mad at this? I'm a gogeta fan and I am hyped AF at the fact that Vegito used kaioken at the end to kill him and fist bumped after which was wholesome. In an alternative scenario I see gogeta learning from his mistake with stardust breaker as Vegito isn't evil at all instead using a kaioken empowered blue big bang Kamehameha. Thanks to hambreth commenter for pointing out the kaioken Vegito used at the end for a split second to win. Good stuff!
They’re both amazing fusions, but yeah- Vegito has always been said to be the stronger/better fusion of the two. I don’t understand why people see that as such a bad thing, Gogeta isn’t any less cool just because Vegito is stronger.
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel yeah, it makes sense too since a god needs to give you the potora earrings. It makes me think of sharingan being a weaker rinnegan basically from Naruto. However weirdly enough it is more convenient to find those yardratians to learn fusion then getting those potora earrings in general. Vegito can use up his power quicker since he's stronger with more power output which can be an issue while Gogeta since in general he would have less time his power output during that time can be argued could be better controlled since he needs to get the job done. I do agree with the outcome though.
I always thought Gogeta was stronger in order to make up for the time limit but I guess that’s not true
The stardust breaker evil thing is not a real statement, it's completely fan-made.
Oh just to say gogeta also transformed as super saiyan blue evolved at the end so it would be alittle equal in power at the end cause if vegito only transformed at the end it’s would be unfair in power.
this wasn’t Future Saga Vegito vs Broly movie Gogeta. This was Composite Vegito vs Composite Gogeta wtf was that donation saying 😂
Fr these gogeta fans really pulling for anything
@@MtWideNeck coping CRAZY
Bruh you got a anime pfp, you can’t talk but it’s basically like a total amounts of their power so there tryna scale them up to be more fair so that the saga power differences don’t get in the way.
@@evadekiryu5060 he knows that lmao, he just saying gogeta fans are on copium
@@evadekiryu5060 I still don't get the issue of people using an anime profile pic.
Is there something I'm missing?
Using soul punisher wasn’t smart, because it only attacks evil. Meaning that any being that is evil upon being hit by it will have their soul destroyed and Vegito is literally them so Gogeta would know not to use it.
Vegito is kinda evil ngl
Shouldve used big bang kamehameha
@@Papa_Straight lol no
would've liked a bigbang kamehameha x100 like in the fight against Shenron, would've made more sense than Soul punisher.
WHY DIDNT WE GET THE SAME KAMEHAMEHA FROM BROLY???!??!?!????? Death battle has been trash. They dead don’t care Lmao
as a Vegito fan its very funny to see some gogeta fans raging and not even listening to the explanation, I overall like Vegito more because i like cocky characters, although if you are a Gogeta fan i'd say watch the first version of this fight
That donation was the definition of copium it was a current vegito vs current gogeta not future saga Vegito vs broly movie gogeta
Dragonball fans continue to prove their stupidity.
if we are being totally honest though, when you really pay attention to how things went down even that fight is going to be pretty close. Vegito in the manga was stated to be just as strong as beerus, possibly even a little stronger. Gogeta in broly was stated by whis that he may even be able to take on lord beerus. this implies that FUTURE SAGA vegito is on the level of gogeta made from POST TOURNAMENT OF POWER goku and vegeta. based off that knowledge and every official source saying that potara makes a better fusion, if both fusions were made by the same goku and vegeta, the fight wouldn't even be close.
@@PhoenixWrightYT00 wrong they buffed beerus
@@PhoenixWrightYT00 They buff Beerus every five minutes. So you can't really use him for scale.
@@PhoenixWrightYT00 Don't take the supreme kai statement seriously. He says "COULD this be stronger than Beerus?", not "This IS stronger than beerus"
Anyone using the "they are equal trump cards" statement to compare Fusion and Potara should note that the statement did not come from Toriyama, nor was it Toriyama approved. It was promotional material. Potara is outright stronger than Fusion and there's no debate, the Daizenshuu 7 confirms this (a guide approved by Toriyama). If the Goku and Vegeta fusing to make Gogeta are equal to the Vegito's counterparts, then Vegito stomps no difficulty. Sorry, I love Gogeta too.
Do you have any sources that the statement was not Toriyama approved? Because anything published to the public of Dragon ball IS Toriyama approved since he still to this day owns Dragon ball z, and Super.
@@justzombie Ah no. shueisha owns it. they can do what they want without toriyamas approval. how do you think so many things for dragon ball came out in the 19 years after toriyama "ended" dragon ball.
@@PhoenixWrightYT00Ah no.
@@CasualCat64 Ah yes. there are plenty of things in dragon ball that toriyama was completely uninvolved in. biggest example being the entire GT series
@@PhoenixWrightYT00 so sassy with it
rip to everyone in chat that was screaming for gogeta
The stardust has to come from evil which vegito is not evil so he wouldn't die from it so does broly so that's that
Yeah people were getting mad saying it should have worked since the fusion has Vegeta but they dont remember that Vegito is his own being seperate from Goku and Vegeta same goes wjth Gogeta
People are more mad about the fact everyone thinks gogeta is stronger based on how they act in their fights
@@alexhenry1984 yet they forget the potara brings out more power then the dance(the people not them just saying)
@@alexhenry1984 bro what I’ve seen Gogeta fans don’t even know their own favorite character but on the other hand Vegito fans do 💀
@@char1363 bro how can you fight for a character that you don’t even know 💀
Thank you for posting this
I missed this stream due to not actually being at home
And my god it sucked knowing he watched this and I was saving that video to watch it with him and knowing his videos get blocked got my mood to be low
But this really did clutch tf up
Thank you
Elder Kai and databooks have stated that Potara is a better way of fusing than Fusion Dance. Vegito was even stated as the perfect warrior when Gogeta has not. Vegito in the Goku Black Arc was stated to be Beerus level while Gogeta fought Broly who was stated around Beerus level by Goku (who has not seen full power Beerus). And also to Gogeta being funny and doing bits in battle. Vegito fucking trained Buuhan in the middle of the battle like bro what type of fighter does that.
Vegito>Gogeta
Vegito is not beerus lv tf
@@brubru9681 ultra vegito
@@brubru9681 It was stated in a databook i believe that during Vegito's fight with Zamasu Vegito is Beerus level
@@theredriver2070 yeah but it isin't true, Akira just Powered the shit out of Beerus
@@theredriver2070 it was in the manga
Potara the better/stronger fushion method , always has been.
im a Gogeta fan but this ending makes sense - Gogeta is only really at his strongest when facing an evil opponent, which Vegito isn't, meaning Gogeta's strongest moves are completely ineffective. if vegito was evil gogeta would probably win
Toriyama said they equals in power, but even if Vegito wasn't evil this fight could've went either way 😁. I feel like if Gogeta performed Dragon Fist faster he could've had it
@@pain9s4life58 Toriyama never stated that.
@@FaithInIt1 Trust me 😂 head to head they equal, but Vegito still wins cuz Gogeta can only stay fused for 30 mins. I just wish Death Battle had showed Gogeta defusing before he got blasted
@@FaithInIt1 yes he did 💀 go read the broly movie analysis thing and you’ll see
@@Phantdaya7x no. he called them equal trump cards. implying that both fusions would have easily gotten the job done. difference in wording is key. plus he himself also wrote the story that multiple times said potara is stronger.
I find it really funny that despite the fact that Vegito and Gogeta are nearly the same character with next to no differences aside from some special moves the debate about which one is stronger is so heated that DB fans will bitch about it even after being given a completely logical argument for one side.
Ah no.
Vegito only unfuse when they surpass there limit too quick. Potara earrings hardly control the power cuz it’s too much vegito would be too broken if they didn’t have a limit to the earring
If I'm correct, Vegito defused against Zamasu because he used too much energy not because of the Final Kamehameha but it probably because of SSGSS(It was stated how SSGSS does have energy drain as and as SSJ3, while in the DBS Broly Movie they could've reduced the energy drain which could explain Gogeta lasting longer in Blue than Vegito) while for SSJ4 Gogeta it was his Big Bang Kamehameha(Goku was able to sleep in SSJ4 without detransforming)
Don’t know how anyone could expect any stronger reasoning than that. The differences they gave to Vegito are pretty much the only differences between the characters.
Thanks Death Battle for making a good video for once
Hope this makes people realize Vegito's true capabilities
5:00 he gets the job done huh?what about omega and broly he literally went and toyed with both of them and didn't get the job done literally only once does he get the job done and don't go saying oh well he was beating broly, if this man wasn't play he would go blue at the start and just kill broly then and there but no he played with him and didn't get the job done
His biggest domination was on Omega man couldn't react to the attacks even when he slowed them down .
People just assume seriousness is only of and all of Gogeta despite clear evidence that the personality varies by the thought process of Goku and Vegeta on each occassion .
The only reason he gets the job done fast is because he was a movie exclusive character
@@KTK5K yeah Facts
Please watch Gt if you are going to use Gt as your counter. Gogeta toyed with Omega to make him use his negative energy to weaken him severely and to get rid of the negative energy. Learn before you speak.
People don't know how powerfull is vegito. The potara multiplayer the power level means while the fusion dance added the power level. For example
Fusion dance : A + B
Potara : A × B + the rival boost
I don't care what toriyama says about the 2 being equal. It makes sense those 2 being equal. So yeah vegito win. They got this right which is surprising.
They would win and I'm saying this a gogeta fan, but I wouldn't be surprised if let's say they had a rematch and this time gogeta doesn't joke much in the fight like here and take the dub, I do think gogeta has a better general arsenal of skills honestly.
Still just based on what's shown and said it makes more sense for Vegito to be stronger as you said or as it's potora earrings from a god while fusion dance is from an unknown race that is obviously not gods based on what we know so far. This is one of those fights were time limit, personality and skills is so close it could go either way but potora earrings are harder to get so it should be stronger in all honesty.
Your speaking in to a void, most of the people in that chat/ comment don’t know shit about power scaling let alone how the fusion work
Actually both the fusion and potara have the same effects. Although I'm not sure about the rival boost, in the Broly movie, Gogeta states that their powers aren't just added together, but are significantly magnified. Magnification would mean that it would most likely work in the same way and Death Battle/Rooster Teeth probably knew this. If you go based on just the example you used, Gogeta would have never stood a chance. But they've explained that their power levels are only slightly different, meaning that the same multiplier is most likely used. Not to mention the fusees needing to match their power level to do the fusion dance variant. So perhaps the rival boost still exists for Gogeta as well. But I don't know. Either way, the problem of matching power levels is the primary reason for why Gogeta lost this fight.
Both multiply their energy. Vegito just doesn’t need his two parts to be equal in power, therefore he gets the full potential of Goku.
EDIT: Also you people complain way too much about the results of DB, they’re far more reliable than you random neckbeards
@@watchery.819 That includes you ironically if you're agreeing to him . Both fusions wouldn't be nearly as powerful as they are if it was just addition in either of them , would pretty much get rekt by whoever they've faced and stomped . Omega , Broly , Janemba all were sh*tting on both Goku and Vegeta with their forms , what makes you think fusing would make any difference if it was just addition? Hell Goku ssj3 would be 4 times more powerful than Super Gogeta who one shot Janemba .
soul punisher was kinda useless in this fight
since they both have no evil in them
They probably added it in for fan service to be honest because in an actual fight I can't see gogeta using soul punisher on pretty much his clone
For gogeta fans who really want to see gogeta win death battle did make another gogeta vs vegito fight before this one where the fans chose who they wanted to win and gogeta ended up winning. It was a dbx I believe
That's not a win then is it?
@@Papa_Straight it's just for people who want to see him win, although it technically doesn't count
Vegito always the goat😂
Fr thank u
onm 😂
Honestly idc abt the outcome this fight was so fire🔥
For the people wondering why Gogeta got turned to stone and/or dust it's actually a reference to Dragon Ball Heroes where gogeta and Vegeta did have a fight like this and Vegeta also won there turning Gogeta to dust.
I'm surprised no one is talking about how Vegito's "cockiness" vs Buu was the entire plan? Like he's definitely been proven to be more serious and more intelligent than Gogeta. I would like to blame that on the timings, bc sometimes DB writers get out of hand. They should realistically both be exponentially smarter than both Goku and Vegeta. Gotenks also gives a good example of their intelligence too, albeit they mostly had to show this through techniques. They were still the fusion of two children with little information, so Gotenks turns out to be an ignorant genius.
I hate how people try to prove gogeta is a stronger fusion when the creator himself say that he’s not….😂😂
The creator himself said they are both equal. So you are laughing at nothing.
@@justzombie how are they equal if goku has to lower his power level to vegetas power level to form gogeta and it only combines their power level when they form vegito they are at full power and the potara multiply their power x100 so how are they equal 😂😂😂
@@justzombie you sure you watch dragonball ? 🙂
@@justzombie u sure bro? Cuzzz uhhh the book says vegito is stronger.
@@justzombie the creator never said that and put out an official guide called daizenshuu that says potara is better.
im yo one hundredth sub bro keep up the good work
🤣 dude inner child came out is was really hype
the fact that vegito was saved by the bell
Vegito solos
The chat going crazy because gogeta lost 😭
if we are being totally honest though, when you really pay attention to how things went down even that fight is going to be pretty close. Vegito in the manga was stated to be just as strong as beerus, possibly even a little stronger. Gogeta in broly was stated by whis that he may even be able to take on lord beerus. this implies that FUTURE SAGA vegito is on the level of gogeta made from POST TOURNAMENT OF POWER goku and vegeta. based off that knowledge and every official source saying that potara makes a better fusion, if both fusions were made by the same goku and vegeta, the fight wouldn't even be close.
One thing they forgot to mention and didn't bother talking about is that in the manga, Goku black arc vegito was stated to be stronger than Beerus while broly movie gogeta was equal to Beerus so in reality if they used the same Goku and Vegeta for both fusions then vegito would be way stronger
That's hard to debate because that statement is said by Supreme kaioshin. That kaioshin has never seen beerus in his full power. Not to mention that Gogeta didn't surpass beerus because when Vegeta fights Beerus after broly (meaning Moro and granolah arc), beerus easily destroys vegeta with no effort. Meaning not only is Vegeta stronger than Broly and that Gogeta, but so is beerus
I love how the soul punisher did absolutely nothing and just got Gogeta caught in the Kamehameha 🤣
The soul punisher would still hurt regardless if your evil or not it’s a giant ki ball
@@CasualCat64 no, it isn't in this fight, and in the original, its just dust that goes into the body.
@@Asmokedetector it’s not dust it’s ki and Broly still took damage from to it just didn’t erase him
@@CasualCat64 that one was a ball, and it wasn't like the original, in fusion reborn Gogeta crushes the ball into dust and it does no damage to janemba from hitting him. You are wrong. And even if you weren't, it clearly did no damage to vegito anyway. It isn't a super powerful, destructive attack.
@@CasualCat64 you have no point, your just tryna make gogetas L less embarrassing
Chris dying at the beginning was funny asf
Dontais chat is some children for this. W job Gogeta and Vegito.
I like how you can see vegito using kaioken and gogeta using ssbe in the end
gogeta really used stardust not realizing they both dont gor evil in them
I remember from soooo long ago the first time I saw Vegito, Instantly became my favorite fusion. I definitely fw Gogeta tho but my goat is just him🤷🏽♂️
Gogeta fans was mad asl watching this
Gogeta pack 🚬
they made gogeta throw by using soul punisher it only works on evil
I agree with this, good fight
thank you so much
18:50 🎵 CHA-LA HEAD CHA-LA!!🎵
You can’t fully take this fight seriously as gogeta and Vegito use techniques that aren’t canon (Vegito using blue kaioken and gogeta using ssj4)
All the gogeta meat riders in dontai stream tried to find an way to cope
Literally none of them cares. Like y’all basically fighting with y’all selves in the comments
vegtito is multiplying and gogeta is adding and then some
As a gogeta fan there’s actually zero possibility vegito is losing to gogeta he’s literally stated to be the strongest fusion using a method that took the best of the 2 and combined instead of taking 50/50
why is it called "stardust breaker". isn't it literally canonically called the "soul punisher" or am i stupid
It's both called stardust breaker and soul punisher
The thing about this fight that's BS is the fact that it would take more than 30 minutes for either one to beat the other. As we seen with Goku vs Vegeta 2 they where somewhat evenly matched. Not even that fight had a clear winner after all that time, who knows how long it would've taken. We all know in Dragon Ball fights with equal power levels never have a winner.
Patara ear rings fuse is permanent but plot I guess
Why would Gogeto use Soul Crusher against himself, He knows they're not evil because they are themselves.
Soul Punisher*
Cause One Part of Gogeta is Vegeta and he thinks that’s some evil inside Vegeto
Finally there is ☮️
It’s funny how when you take ALL DB story elements into play Vegito > Gogeta but CANONICALLY, Gogeta doesn’t suffer from maxing out his power the same way Vegito does, so he would probably either overwhelm or outlast Vegito
I do believe this as well, tho vegito is stronger
He does look at gotenks who's fusion was cut short because of powering up too much
@@kwamemwangs2173 that never happened tho, gotenks just loses ssj3 and kept fighting buu in base afterwards
@@yisus4681 oh then nvm
Gogeta was the one who had Big Bang Kamehameha First
the chat lmao
Dude they mess up a lot in their calcs but this was clear cut...
Even if they are almost equal at their peak, either Vegeta or Goku is a little bit stronger, even if just barely.
So Let's asume that Goku = 1000 and Vegeta = 999
Vegito has 1999
Gogeta has 1998 (because Goku would lower his power to match Vegeta's 999)
No debate
The best way to explain it. Thanks
While i understand the thought process. What I don’t get is this. Vegeta and Goku were completely tapped of energy fighting broly when they retreated and had no senzu beans. So to me it would not make sense that lowering a powerlevel would make a difference since fusion already allows them to tap into forms as high as ssb despite fusing with almost no energy. Before fusing into vegito in the future arc, goku and vegeta ate senzu beans then fused.
Like by our own logic on how the fusion dance even works, shouldn’t they be in ssb if it matters about powerlevels matching and stuff, why would power be forfeit the moment someone lowers their power level a little? Like by this logic, fusion in base should not allow them to even go super saiyan.
So wouldn’t it just make sense to say the technique of fusing is far harder than potara and there is no power difference? The requirements are different but the power would still be the same.
@@terrakage4462 Goku was also banged up when he first fused into Vegetto against buu, he was taking quite a beating.
I think the fusion revitalizes you somewhat, but not entirely but this is headcannon XD
About he SSB thing, I think it's easier to use the fusion dance in base first, because you don't have to worry about multipliers, and Goten and Trunks proved that fusions can transform as well so why risk a misfusion ?
Not even trying to be an asshole but like, This is the first fight Vegito won.
It is also Gogeta who took the first L of the 2 fusions
@@LuminoX688if we count vegito’s fight with buu as an L then this makes gogetas 3rd L
@@LuminoX688gogetas 3rd L ( technilly broly counts as a L because he didnt kill him)
@@dbzfan2811 also gt
@@dbzfan2811 not rlly bc plot lol
Vegito wins. Its that simple. Its literally confirmed in the manga too. People think gogeta stronger just because he was the most recent fusion n was in 2 movies. Biases . I love them both. But Vegito obviously is stronger. Geekdom 101 n seththeprogrammer explains it well
Bro GT takes place in an alternate universe
Look less time gogeta / More time vegito
I love vegito, especially his cocky attitude when he fought buu was dope asf but gogeta my nigga man 😂 he won that fr fr
So much shade on Vegeta lol
Why is no one talking about the extra power Vegito gets from the potara’s rival boost?
vegito might be stronger but if it was an actual evil threat then i would want gogeta for soul punisher/stardust breaker. insta win basically
SSJ4 > every other dbz transformation.
Cap
@@chiateghang3629 no
If vegito didn't use kaioken then it would have been raps
I will never understand how people think Gogeta is stronger.
He’s cooler
@@CasualCat64 I agree, but that doesn’t mean he’s stronger.
Gogetas stardust breaker pnly damaged vegito but not erase him is due to the fact that stardust breaker only erases pure evil being like janiemba, an example is broly, he didnt get erased because broly is not evil when gogeta used his attack and gogeta even smiled because he knew broly wasnt evil
Soul punisher only destroys enemies with a bad heart/Soul, in other word vegito has a pure heart just like gogeta wich means he cannot be damaged by that attack. Also Vegito has Blue Kaioken x20 so yeah ggs
yo i knew goku and vegeta would win against goku and vegeta
Can't wait to see these skins in fortniteb
W plug
Nice
I thought while Vegito was in blue he only had 5 minutes
HELLOOOOO GOGETA TURNED TO PURE DUST
bro if gogeta and vegito fused and they fought at full power vs the strongest person in db universe who wins
why didn't he upload it
gogeta is just a walmart vegetio with water safety gear no way he's beating the goat
Stop watching death battle, they kinda suck sometimes. Watch Seth the programmer he’s the best power sealer I’m the community right now
Ssj4 is cannon... Jesus Christ..
They didn’t add ui/ego to gogeta
Anyone notice that when they were analyzing Gogeta and him and Broly went into the glass-shatter-realm thing he goes ImDontai says “What the” at the exact time that Gogeta wud? Just throwing that out there
Another thing, Vegito did the same hand movements as Gogeta did on Broly just before countering his attack, Gogeta also did the exact same thing that he did to Omega Shenron after hitting Vegito with with the Bluff Kamehameha, there’s so much k can go on for days
Vegito has always been the stronger fusion, it's been said countless times.
No it hasn’t
Why would he use stardust breaker
Vegito is objectively stronger
Gogeta ss4 was still more badass to me ngl
Doesn't matter when Ss4 gogeta gets washed by fuckin cabba and ribrianne lmaooo
Dontai chugging copium rn
Dontai don’t even care so why would he care who wins. He literally just watching the video
Gogeta Omni god:😂😂😂😂😂
I like y’all say gogeta the one to win fights but vegito faught buu with his kids in side him whooped his ahh and got them out how is that not a w😂
Vegito gets the power up with the potara
Gogeta is superior I don’t know how it’s a debate
Vegito better
BROOO NOOOO GOGETA WINSSS😢😢😢😢😢😩😭😭😭😭😭😭
They forgot Broly has no real skill to his strength, therefore, the Broly movie made Gogeta look good. Vegito is Goku x Vegeta.
The movie made both look good. Broly had no skill and was making Goku and Vegeta struggle to the point they had to leave and come back as Gogeta and still pushing him to go blue
@@Juke11 He didn't get pushed to go blue, he just started the fight as blue.
@@purplehaze4942 yea pushing was an exaggeration but still SSJ Broly and SSJ Gogeta were exchanging blows with Gogeta with an advantage. Broly went FPSSJ and gave Gogeta some good hits which then he goes Blue
@@Juke11 more a safety measure than anything
Hmm why would gogeta use stardust breaker any way plus can gogeta use kaioken also