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  • The 2011 the disappearance of Prison boss David Prideaux is a mystery that bristles with possibilities. The story that began as a missing person case is now clouded with accusations of betrayal, adultery, conspiracies and murder.
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  • @petermckinnon7102
    @petermckinnon7102 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    He was my boss at Barwon and I attended his memorial service. I spoke with our dog squad members who also took part in the search. Their comments to me were, “ he could have been one metre away from where we searched and there is no chance you would ever find him”. The area is that rugged. Dave was a true gentleman.

    • @CRAM991
      @CRAM991 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      sounds like a screw got screwed

    • @mandiparker4539
      @mandiparker4539 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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    • @gloriamontgomery6900
      @gloriamontgomery6900 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I’m so sorry for your loss

    • @ninaniggenaber1
      @ninaniggenaber1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      🙏🙏🙏🙏😞

    • @Roscoe.P.Coldchain
      @Roscoe.P.Coldchain ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah the poor guy more than likely had an accident hunting and is probably still lying out there somewhere..It seems now that no one can accept accidents happen and have got to try destroy someone or blame someone, everyone’s gotten far to paranoid..Rip fella

  • @swagmanexplores7472
    @swagmanexplores7472 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It is amazing to me how easily so many people can disappear in the Australian bush. It is equally amazing how many people are accidentally found purely by chance in the most unlikely circumstances. It’s a matter of time...

    • @sidstovell2177
      @sidstovell2177 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or in US Federal lands or the Arizona desert or Washington state forests etc., etc.

    • @ftsboys9825
      @ftsboys9825 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I frequent this area on trail bikes can certainly say it is so so so so easily to get lost and off track. I’ve racked up 10,000km over the last few years in the area and surrounding mountains. Been so many times where I’ve been lost and thought, fuck if something bad happens no one would ever find me here. Parts of the bush there are insanely steep, rocky and dense, not to mention the countless mine shafts.

  • @xcrockery8080
    @xcrockery8080 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Not ringing the police until 6pm sounds perfectly normal to me.
    It always takes a good amount of time to realise your problem isn't solving itself and you have to call for help.

  • @theranjithjay
    @theranjithjay ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Why did Danid’s wife Joanne did not want David’s brothers to continue searching for her husband or keep on looking for his dead body even after six months after his disappearance? Could she harbour hatred towards her husband or did she tip off his enemies of the date he was going hunting or did she have any connection with his disappearance? Any woman in normal circumstances would insist on looking for the father of her children or her husband’s disappearance?

    • @brankotopal2802
      @brankotopal2802 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      She Found Out he had a affair

    • @anthonyfowler1789
      @anthonyfowler1789 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Massive cover up look at the last name Dale is he related ?the only one to know who went in and out of the prison on secret visits would be the governor

    • @brucejohnston3521
      @brucejohnston3521 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      very suspicious

    • @sunshinehoward9649
      @sunshinehoward9649 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@brankotopal2802 you still go and look for him. she uses the children as an excuse NOT to look, maybe she should have used them as a REASON to look.

    • @lesnaidoo843
      @lesnaidoo843 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sunshinehoward9649

  • @irinaslinky
    @irinaslinky ปีที่แล้ว +38

    His hunting gun wouldn’t be destroyed by any whether for many years to come. He was killed, and body was hidden somewhere else.

    • @paulpaul4681
      @paulpaul4681 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Weather you're right or weather you're wrong remains to be seen

    • @carolleenkelmann4751
      @carolleenkelmann4751 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulpaul4681 And whether you are right or wrong, the weather will do away with most of the evidence.

  • @alainpreveaux2428
    @alainpreveaux2428 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It seems to me Rob Dale sold David down the river.

  • @Warwck24
    @Warwck24 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    They used Prideau’s vehicle to ferry people up and down the mountain? In what year ? 1875? !! Who was the commander in charge? I’m always honest ? These types of statements are often used by people, irrespective a mystery indeed. The equipment should have turned up. It doesn’t add up alright

  • @relocatetoItaly
    @relocatetoItaly ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Experienced police detectives always start the same way. The last person to be with him and the family (data doesn't lie) and therein lies the problem they didn't investigate properly.

  • @gloriamontgomery6900
    @gloriamontgomery6900 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    What about cadaver dogs?

    • @FranticRS
      @FranticRS 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There hit n miss not guaranteed

  • @Snaerffer
    @Snaerffer ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Hardly “a thoroughly decent bloke” if he was deceiving his wife like that. I’d have liked to know more about the Dale connection too what a coincidence!)

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles ปีที่แล้ว

      It's well known that men think with their penises and some women use it to their advantage.

    • @scottwheeler1641
      @scottwheeler1641 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I wondered if he had just left to start a new life with a new girlfriend. His wife and kids would be provided for by the insurance, and he was smart

  • @alcaldealer8515
    @alcaldealer8515 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How can you have a coroner report w no body

    • @philipr1567
      @philipr1567 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's very rare, but it can happen. For example the (South Australia) Coroners Act 2003 part 4 s21 states:
      The Coroner's Court must hold an inquest to ascertain the cause or circumstances of the following events:
      (a) a death in custody;
      (b) if the State Coroner considers it necessary or desirable to do so, or the Attorney-General so directs-
      (i) any other reportable death or a death that would, but for section 3(2), have been a reportable death; or
      (ii) the disappearance from any place of a person ordinarily resident in the State; or
      (iii) the disappearance from, or within, the State of any person; ............
      I haven't read Victoria law, but I would expect the provisions to be broadly similar. In UK law a Coroner's Inquest can be held if a person has disappeared and there is reason to believe that death has occurred.

  • @Bulletguy07
    @Bulletguy07 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I think what the hunters told Steve Prideaux seems most likely.....that he was murdered away from that area because absolutely zero, zilch, nothing has ever been found of his distinctive belongings, not even his rifle. He was well kitted out with a back pack full of all the right gear.....yet not one item ever found. The police screwed things up from the outset though.....WTF were they doing using the missing guys ATV to ride around in? That should have been the first thing sealed and carted off on a low loader for forensics to go over.

    • @DinoCism
      @DinoCism ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can think of several cases of hunters going missing and their gun not being found in the US and Canada. Does that mean they were all murdered too? It's weird but not very rare at all. Look up Missing 411 cases they are all like this. These kind of things are bizarre and weird but very common.

    • @johannas.l.brushane2518
      @johannas.l.brushane2518 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There are a couple of cases in Sweden as well where hunters have gone missing in large areas of wilderness and strangely not a single item have been found. One would think that if they became injured and died at one time animals would spread things around. Foxes are quite playful and those who live close to forests knows that shoes, toys and such left out on a veranda can be knicked and eventually be found some kilometer into the forest with bite marks.
      And even if some forests have bog swamps one would think some items would have surfaced.

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonder if it was the Airline pilot?? I think it was a hit, but who knows??

    • @melodytenisch6232
      @melodytenisch6232 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly.

  • @The_Crusty_Old_Hag_Next_Door
    @The_Crusty_Old_Hag_Next_Door ปีที่แล้ว +32

    He wasn’t the only person to go missing in that area!!

  • @tiffanystephens4785
    @tiffanystephens4785 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love these shows.. thanx for the uploads😊😊

  • @harrickvharrick3957
    @harrickvharrick3957 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I find it a bit weird, when one is hunting WITH a close friend, that at the earliest possible moment that hunting activity (or scouting for gain) starts, both would split up to both go their own lonesome way - ESPECIALLY in terrain as rugged as this. How does their way of supposedly immediately splitting up and both setting off on their own reflect the supposed activity of going hunting TOGETHER? I don't get that, even if just from the point of view that in the type of landscape this played there is a serious risk of getting lost.

    • @stewatparkpark2933
      @stewatparkpark2933 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not that uncommon . Cover more ground . Increase chance of shooting a deer .

    • @helencheadle5285
      @helencheadle5285 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not just getting lost, but seeing movement, not wearing that yellow hat, there was a strong chance you could get shot by your buddy, accidentally or otherwise! ….don’t understand why they had to break up…surely it would have needed both men to carry a dead deer back between them, in view of all the backpacking gear they already carried!!! I mean that deer would be very heavy across one man’s arms, and you couldn’t leave it and mark the spot, as you risk not finding it again….something smells very rotten here.

    • @helencheadle5285
      @helencheadle5285 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also found it odd the police got Robbie to fire his gun in the air- surely the police had their own gun, so Robbie could be checked for gun residue, and check if his gun had been fired. Of course he could always have said that HE had fired at a deer. Over following days were buzzards or vultures seen circling? (Sorry I’m in the U.K.,so not familiar with your wildlife)
      So when police knew they were coming to search for a missing man, why didn’t they bring a bloodhound first ? Known to have incredible nose power,even years later! And or Cadaver. Dogs? Why were neither brought out to search? It’s feasible that a bloodhound may still be of help I may just add. It’s very sad, and not just a little strange about this huge family fall out!! After all those years of close bond, to split like that is awful!! David deserves to be found! Have any of you thought of contacting a reputable psychic? AND BEFORE IM SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES, whatever your faith or belief, some police forces have worked with psychics and had good results. A new one has come to the fore on TV called the seat belt psychic, he drives people, and gives them a reading as he drives. Hid names Is Thomas John. At the moment he works under the James Cordon tv company, but he is very good, and unless you ask/give it a go you never know! There are other more famous ones like Tyler Henry and Mat Frazier, but both are booked for years for readings. But please don’t dismiss , any help you can get.
      Phil Jordon used to be a police officer, but has an incredible psychic skill, has found lost children in deep wooded areas. There are many gifted psychics who could at least point you in the right direction or reading.🙏 now having heard he was supposed to had had an extra marital affair, could they offended party have lay in wait with a gun? Although no sound of a gunshot was heard by the brother in law. It’s very sad when human life, or sadly human remains as they must be by now, are not given the respect and thought they deserve by the
      Whole family. It shouldn’t have split like this and I want to say Shame on them. It isn’t all about the widow, the man’s mother needs answers, all the brothers should be pulling together. I’m undecided about the brother in law…it’s too off Pat somehow. I do hope I read they have found him soon. Extra marital affairs or not, dislike from someone in or working at the prison, however David has met his tragic end, and being logical I think we know he must be dead after all this time, he IS STILL somebody’s son,brother,father,friend, and even husband, and as a human being alone, deserves to have his remains located and a decent funeral and final cathartic funeral for the WHOLE family to attend,lick their wounds and heal together once again. Godbless you all, and praying for your success. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙋‍♀️💕🦋💐💐

    • @vostock83
      @vostock83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. Anything I was taught was that you should stick together, mainly to avoid accidents, but also to support each other.

    • @photofinish8607
      @photofinish8607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was murdered by the only other person there. Dude just hid the body very well.

  • @christinesimpson6529
    @christinesimpson6529 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How long after a person has passed away can a K9 still detect remains?
    If he was my brother I would NEVER give up but it definitely leans much more to foul play , someone knows something

    • @janvdb9258
      @janvdb9258 ปีที่แล้ว

      Los could detect for years but weather gets in the way

  • @cheechalker8430
    @cheechalker8430 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    It would help the viewer to know if there is any relation between the bad cop Dale and the brother in law Dale

    • @cammos
      @cammos ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My question aswell

    • @janetpendlebury6808
      @janetpendlebury6808 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dale is a very common name, I would have expected the tv show to have indicated if there was a connection.

  • @jimboc7249
    @jimboc7249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having a memorial with only half the family is WEIRD.

  • @normanbrown9225
    @normanbrown9225 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When David and his Brother in law came to a Folk on the Road Why did they Separate?

  • @khillsy4489
    @khillsy4489 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I've learned one important thing: Australian Police need a lot of sorting out. They are not C.S.I. rather more like keystone cops.

    • @markthomas3730
      @markthomas3730 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I concur...Much the same as the RCMP in Canada. A pathetic Clown show

    • @scottevans2685
      @scottevans2685 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I again ask the question: are Victoria cops corrupt, incompetent, or both? Multiple episodes of this program have painted them in a very unprofessional light, to put it charitably.

    • @terrylutze4939
      @terrylutze4939 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are completely corrupt..........end of story

    • @cliveblacksheep2522
      @cliveblacksheep2522 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@scottevans2685 both, unfortunately.

    • @edbrake2801
      @edbrake2801 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a British thing.

  • @karenmcneill2602
    @karenmcneill2602 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very very interesting. I'm inclined to think he was murdered. Whether it had anything to do with his position or his wife...I've no clue. I can see both happening. Having an affair is unacceptable. I completely understand that his wife would be furious and hurt. However, as someone who's parents split, I'm not sure she could kill her kids' Dad. Dad's are important for kids...unless they are abusive of course! Incredibly sad story.

  • @tomjotley7775
    @tomjotley7775 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    If deer stalkers, who, I believe, were few hundred of them hunting in that area, couldn't come across any of David's items, David is not there. Ok, other possibility are disused mine shafts from Gold digging era. In my younger days, I used to go deer hunting in Woods Point as well Mount Howitt where extra care was to be taken, not to fall into one of them.

    • @gordonpeden6234
      @gordonpeden6234 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      As a hunter I agree, we're constantly on the look out for signs, footprints, rub marks, wallows, if they haven't found his Gun, clothing, hat, skeleton, he aint there.

  • @rosesutton1389
    @rosesutton1389 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder if the Jetstar Pilot was in the area at the time that David was there.

  • @serenaleaghgrace5023
    @serenaleaghgrace5023 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    policies,,, procedures ethics,,, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, shame they were not carried out?

  • @ashdivakaran9664
    @ashdivakaran9664 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’ve done heaps of 4wding in that area, in 2013 we were talking about this disappearance and one of the blokes we were camping with was part of the search party or had mates who knew David (I can’t remember the exact details).
    He said there’s NO chance he hurt himself and died on his own, and nobody on the search party were expecting to find an accident.
    I thought they were conspiracy theorists until I watched this episode. And I agree, I’ve found stranded hikers after 3 days in that area. Anyone with half a brain would stick to a track or creek and there’s only so far you can walk in 6 hours.

    • @stevebbuk
      @stevebbuk ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know the terrain at all but I agree he would have been found by now. This begs the question: how could he have been killed and his body removed without other hikers or locals not witnessing something untoward?

    • @ashdivakaran9664
      @ashdivakaran9664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevebbuk except for the ski slopes the high country is pretty empty in winter.
      We do a 4wding trip over the Queen’s birthday in June and that’s the end of the camping season.

    • @stevebbuk
      @stevebbuk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Paul Cooper Yes but something would have been found; either the body itself or remnants from the rucksack.

    • @ashdivakaran9664
      @ashdivakaran9664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Paul Cooper things like a backpack & rifle won’t go missing in the scrub

    • @carolleenkelmann4751
      @carolleenkelmann4751 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevebbuk It is the Southern Hemisphere. June is early Winter and it is Highcountry but by end of Sept. it is well and truly Spring. Things should be easier to spot.

  • @bennieblanco2084
    @bennieblanco2084 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the DL, great channel 🌍🥂🖤

  • @maccastime
    @maccastime ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Had he and Rob Dale been to that area before,why split up ,hunt together? Dales gun should have been seized immediately,then asked have you fired it up here recently? If so what spot? Not ask him to fire a shot in the air.had he heard any shots from David’s gun? Did his wife have Dale kill him? We’re all persons phones and bank records checked.

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi ปีที่แล้ว +7

      no....this is victoria police were talking about

  • @paulmoller2860
    @paulmoller2860 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Did anyone look to see if Rob Dale was related to detective Paul Dale seeing he didn't want Carl Williams to disclose evidence against Paul Dale and maybe Rob Dale is a distant family

    • @paulmoller2860
      @paulmoller2860 ปีที่แล้ว

      A little to good to be true if you were Paul Dale you would think

  • @alainpreveaux2428
    @alainpreveaux2428 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I grew up in the Boreal Forest. Good luck looking for a body in the snow.

  • @johnbullivant1264
    @johnbullivant1264 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It would be very easy to get lost without a trace in there, you'd have to be trying very hard to overlook the obvious to suggest that something else happened to him

  • @reehoneybee123
    @reehoneybee123 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If his wife found out about the affair, then I think she’s told her brother. Who was with him when he went “missing” so he’s mad out there with him, confronted him about it and shot him. Seems like a completely put together plan

    • @TikiTorcher
      @TikiTorcher 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You actually think a brother-in-law would give af about him being a wh*re? You think his sister and her husband are going to be that enraged over him betraying someone who married into that family? You are truly fukking delusional about men. They have no honour especially when it doesn’t affect them personally.

  • @gloriafeather5607
    @gloriafeather5607 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thinks cops should ONLY do RBT's and write out speeding tickets. They are not intelligently equipped to do anything else.

  • @silvasun5326
    @silvasun5326 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would be good to know who was riding the trail bikes….maybe they already do and have dismissed it. A puzzling mystery for sure.

  • @relocatetoItaly
    @relocatetoItaly ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Big families more than 4, more than often have different factions in them and somebody who calls the shots,often the oldest. Even families that call themselves close.

  • @carolleenkelmann4751
    @carolleenkelmann4751 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That Victorian Highcountry has been a dangerous place ever since the Kelly Brothers roamed the ridges. Think of the couple that were murdered in their tent two years years ago. But the role of the Police must have proven Protocols for this sort of things.- just in case!

  • @neilperry2224
    @neilperry2224 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great one and informative too, how different your cops are.
    Could they have got him to fire the gun to tell whomever had to move on out with him?
    What happened to his truck?

    • @rebekahvenn201
      @rebekahvenn201 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe someone should contact down under Dan under water search team because if his truck is missing to there is every possibility it is under water. Anything is worth a go.

    • @janetpendlebury6808
      @janetpendlebury6808 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rebekahvenn201 Not much water up there, especially in the droughts we have been through.

    • @carolleenkelmann4751
      @carolleenkelmann4751 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was found, locked and parked. They used it to ferry searchers(without taking any forensics.!)

  • @rivermoon6190
    @rivermoon6190 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At 11:25 look at the faces of David’s wife and I presume her sister in law. When asked by the interviewer how they would describe David they are both smirking and hiding their faces - especially the sister in law. I found that very odd.

  • @sunshinehoward9649
    @sunshinehoward9649 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    wierd. turning down a new search? and those children were old enough to decide whether to participate or not. I don't know. When you love someone, you NEVEr stop looking. She's ready to cut and go and put it on the children.

  • @popculturekings8420
    @popculturekings8420 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Upload more please

  • @DinoCism
    @DinoCism ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's common in disappearances for the family to want it to be foul play because then there is someone to blame and the possibility of justice. It's more poetic than just getting lost and dying, but that's what people do all the time, even competent wilderness prepared people. I've heard of other disappearances of hunters where their gun also hasn't been found. This sounds like a typical missing 411 case. These things are an everyday occurrence in North America and I have no doubt in Australia too. It's weird and eerie but things like the weather changing are huge factors.

    • @raymondparnell439
      @raymondparnell439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep 😌 Im Australian and I'd love to travel my country but it's no joke .. it's massive and empty with very little water deadly snakes . Dehydration is the biggest threat .

  • @Kim-anions
    @Kim-anions 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The reason she wanted you to drop it was because she was afraid. Her husband probably told her something. I can’t blame her. She was protecting her children. Could you blame her?

  • @carolynbohannon4602
    @carolynbohannon4602 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Weird how it split the family. And why did the brother in law go til night time to report when they couldn't search til next day

    • @alainpreveaux2428
      @alainpreveaux2428 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      To say the plaque ceremony was bizarre was an understatement.

    • @carolleenkelmann4751
      @carolleenkelmann4751 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some people can think and act and some people cannot.

  • @carltongirl95
    @carltongirl95 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thanks Adam this one is confusing I certainly believe that he was murdered though...I hope the family can get some kind of closure and eventually find out what happened...I can't / hearing of this one but I hope for closure for his family 😥

  • @MovanaMotivation
    @MovanaMotivation ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If 2 people went deer hunting together in such a spooky place, they shouldn't have separated and parted ways!

  • @sihammer7942
    @sihammer7942 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    There's only a small area his body could be in + nothing's been found which means he was taken off the mountain.
    People don't just vanish without a trace, in spite of what some would have you believe, people do vanish, however, when made to do so by other people + that's more than likely what's happened here.
    Something to do with his work, is one theory, another is it's some local guy, an Ivan Milat type, but this is about who this guy was.
    The sort of people who can make you disappear were a part of his professional life + it's not at all hard to believe they're responsible for his disappearance, not hard at all.
    It's really selfish of the guy's wife to expect other family members to stop searching just because she wants to forget about it, she uses her kids as the reason, but if it was my brother missing I'd have a serious issue with her attitude.
    She should be making the most noise, not the opposite + wanting everyone else to do the same, the guy is still missing, ffs, keeping quiet about it isn't going to help.
    What's up with her, I don't know??? It's like it's become an inconvenience for her + she's the only reason that family has become divided. There's something wrong about her....................

    • @philipr1567
      @philipr1567 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Depending on the geography, people on their own can vanish without a trace being found but I believe it is rare without other human involvement. In this case the fact that David Prideaux had camo gear, a backpack, and a weapon which were not found suggests that his living or dead body left the area with the help of other people. Either that or there are some truly inaccessible ravines in the area.

    • @ian7033
      @ian7033 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lots of people vanish without a trace in the Australian bush, sometimes their remains are found decades later. And this is not a small area, impossible to do a complete search.

    • @sihammer7942
      @sihammer7942 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ian7033 He could only cover a relatively short distance each hour so the area he was likely to be found within shouldn't be very big. Where he started from to his intended destination, between those 2 points is where you'd expect him to be, then work out from there, not too far, if you find nothing he's most likely been taken.
      He can't have travelled too far from where he started, so the search area needn't be vast. 3 miles per hour at the most, he couldn't have gone too far, or too far wrong. Nothing was found, I believe he was taken out of the area.
      The absence of evidence is, in this case, evidence of absence.............. Unless, of course, it isn't.

    • @ian7033
      @ian7033 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sihammer7942 Read Peters comments below which are absolutely correct "I spoke with our dog squad members who also took part in the search. Their comments to me were, “ he could have been one metre away from where we searched and there is no chance you would ever find him”

    • @sihammer7942
      @sihammer7942 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ian7033 Cl;early I don't know what I'm on about, I appreciate you setting me straight, I had no idea the terrain was so adverse.
      Again, thank you for dealing with my ignorance, or some of it, I retain a not inconsiderable stock which I'll try harder to keep to myself.
      If only it could be lost as easily as our guy......... God only knows what's hidden on that mountain, or who is?....?.......

  • @marianicholls2741
    @marianicholls2741 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Looks like the wife is laughing when asked what kind of husband he was. The other woman...hiding her mouth....her sister? ..answered for her. Did she know he wouldn't be found on the newly organised search..Her actions are the strangest of all. The brother in law probably knows what happened. Only his word they parted company at the fork in the road. Did they really?!!!!!!!!

    • @kathleensmith644
      @kathleensmith644 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I noticed her smiling and almost laughing.

    • @helenagrzegorczyk1114
      @helenagrzegorczyk1114 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Both women seem to be smiling. Why? Are they happy? If so, why are they happy?

  • @billymack333
    @billymack333 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most people would be shocked if they knew how staff behave in Australian prisons. There are a few downright evil blokes that work in the system, the rest are mostly complacent and say nothing even when they know the treatment of prisoners is wrong. It’s not a huge stretch of the imagination that this bloke was involved in something sinister and eventually paid the price.

  • @tothelighthouse9843
    @tothelighthouse9843 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The only evidence as to the hunters' timeline that morning comes from the brother in law, whom half the family suspects of being involved. The two guys could actually have gone anywhere. They could've hopped in the truck after breakfast & gone for a drive to look for better hunting. And that could've been the actual location where foul play occurred.
    I find the brother-in-law's version of events hard to believe. He's saying he let the whole afternoon go by while his family member was missing, & didn't go out looking for him, honk the horn, fire his gun in the air, shout for him etc? He just hung around the campsite all afternoon & then waited until it was dark to call the cops? Common sense says that's not how you'd handle this situation.
    What would be the brother-in-law's motive tho? Half the family suspects him, but they're not providing any motive for the murder. Perhaps they know a motive but are just being tight-lipped about it.
    As to the search--I get that it's rough terrain, but there was a limited area to search & over the years it has been traversed by hundreds of people. It's just odd that not a single trace was found, despite him being loaded down with materials that don't biodegrade quickly (including nylon, polyethelene, the gun, etc). You'd think if he were actually there, something would've been discovered by now.

    • @fritula6200
      @fritula6200 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To the lighthouse..in reply..
      What observations you made were just so fascinating, just pure logic.
      I think you shld be involved in detective work. Thank you for your honesty!!

    • @manda.watching.YouTube
      @manda.watching.YouTube ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You’d be surprised how many years can go by without a trace being found. It happens a lot. Then they’re found close by the search area or even in an area that was said to be searched. And if the brother-in-law is innocent, that’s not that long to wait. Because he wouldn’t have assumed he was missing right away. I follow a lot of missing person cases and so often people, innocent people, wait even until the next day because they don’t want to believe the person is missing. By the time they start to believe it, sometimes they panic and start looking themselves instead of going for help straight away.

    • @tothelighthouse9843
      @tothelighthouse9843 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fritula6200 Thank you for your kind words! (and happy holidays too!).

  • @christinesimpson6529
    @christinesimpson6529 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bungled investigation????

  • @Swaggerlot
    @Swaggerlot ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My Spaniel can find a dead magpie, goanna or 'roo upwind from a hundred feet or more..... Did they ever use dogs?

    • @ariadneschild8460
      @ariadneschild8460 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they did, it was stated several times.

    • @Swaggerlot
      @Swaggerlot ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ariadneschild8460 must have missed it in the noise

  • @MacGuffin1
    @MacGuffin1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Phone tower logs? bet you there was a GSM tracker on his landcruiser....

    • @smokeingcrowswithrobbo995
      @smokeingcrowswithrobbo995 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet there was a phone call made from the Brotherinlaw many hrs before the 1 to the cops to say he was missing ??? Did they check that ???

    • @janetpendlebury6808
      @janetpendlebury6808 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In the High Country there is often no mobile phone coverage.

  • @robinbanks610
    @robinbanks610 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So freakin’ suss!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @michaelscurr9046
    @michaelscurr9046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Corruption runs deep with this story.

  • @afnDavid
    @afnDavid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh WOW! Lets sensationalize something that needs no sensationalism.

  • @kerryharding6463
    @kerryharding6463 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No one decent shoots an animal for fun!

    • @isthatrubble
      @isthatrubble ปีที่แล้ว +2

      deer are invasive pests here. they should actually be culled, because they're destroying native ecosystems. if you kill them quickly and cleanly it's more humane than trying to remove them alive from the environment - they panic and hurt themselves.

    • @ariadneschild8460
      @ariadneschild8460 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Deers are feral and browse on young shrubs and damage trees when rubbing their antlers, they also breed like rabbits.

    • @kerryharding6463
      @kerryharding6463 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ariadneschild8460 oh, I forgot, humans do no damage to anything on the earth & don’t try the bullshit about the deers destroying the trees humans have been destroying the trees for greed forever, you obviously like to kill also, your the epitome of the word feral, i’ld much rather see bad people hunted than innocent animals

    • @ariadneschild8460
      @ariadneschild8460 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kerryharding6463 I live in the country and having a herd of deer come out of no where on the highway is no joke. You don't know what you're talking about have you ever had a deer leap onto your car? People have died, you should blame the deer farmers who don't fence them properly allowing them to damage the bush and roam freely.

    • @kerryharding6463
      @kerryharding6463 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ariadneschild8460 Whatever…. If it wasn’t the deer I’m sure you’ll have another animal to hunt & another excuse, I always wish that it was possible for the hunted to shoot and kill the hunter, there’s something mentally lacking in people that can kill but I guess it’s nothing new to humans who seem to do it so easily!

  • @95RAW
    @95RAW ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good dog could have smelt the decomposition in the days/weeks after his death. It's very hard to cover distance in that type of terrain.

  • @craigbarron3706
    @craigbarron3706 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What's surprising?......Australia has the dodgiest law enforcement in the world!!

  • @Ida-fz3ir
    @Ida-fz3ir ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why they did not take search dogs the other day?
    most simple solution in such situation!

  • @sharonharding3478
    @sharonharding3478 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love these stories thankyou

  • @jesuschrist7169
    @jesuschrist7169 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Look into the wife, 100% she knows!

  • @Skinny_Karlos
    @Skinny_Karlos ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One of the classic axiom of the hunter is, when lost and you have friends/collegues close by is to let of a round to let those friends just where you are. This never happened and therefore leaves us with a real, classic, 'who dunnit'. So, therefore, really, who dunnit ?? WHO DUNNIT ???

  • @Foutainoflife1
    @Foutainoflife1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel for the family. They just want answers and a body they can claim and bury properly. I think that if he's out there, whatever happened to him must've been fatal and happened quickly. They said he had a radio and it seems like he would've reached out if he was merely hurt. Just a sad situation. I hope they get some answers some day.

  • @edbrake2801
    @edbrake2801 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After growing up in East Texas and hunting in and around some of the thickets there I can't help but wonder how a stalker could get close enough in those woods to get a shot at a deer without being seen or heard?

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles ปีที่แล้ว

      I've walked up to Rusa deer, exploring the bush, they're introduced pests with zero predators besides man. There aren't many hunters in Australia compared to America, and here Rusa walk down the street and eat peoples gardens. Stay downwind and walk quietly. I'm guessing a Whitetail is a totally different animal.

  • @truthseeker2314
    @truthseeker2314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect way to go into witness protection.

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's impossible to make any rational comment without being there when whatever happened, happened.
    Media, Police, whoever.
    They DO NOT KNOW.

  • @cerealrakist7360
    @cerealrakist7360 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Idk why people think the wife’s actions are fishy. If it were me and I found my husband had been cheating on me, the hell with him too

    • @vickypayne4340
      @vickypayne4340 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not if he’s the farther of your children, he cheated on her not his children they still have the right to know what happened to their farther

  • @biastv1234
    @biastv1234 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a tragedy.

  • @ulrikezachmann7596
    @ulrikezachmann7596 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So why was all the evidence related to Carl Williams in the Land Cruiser ? That kind of info storage type is unheard of by Govt agencies. Who does that and then goes deer hunting with the stuff in the car? What kind of country do we live in, a banana republic? If he really did that no wander he was murdered. Who was he going to give it to out there. Deer hunting? Really?

  • @susannecromwell3461
    @susannecromwell3461 ปีที่แล้ว

    The music goes straight to the brain ..

  • @MsLinda165
    @MsLinda165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The usual path is 'follow the money'...I wonder who stood to lose money with him being found. Maybe his widow wanted an insurance payout, because she thought divorce will be expensive; let's just have him disappear and I can collect in 7 years. She must be a patient woman. This man will be found one day, but all the key players will have died by then. Also, just a note: the brother in law seems like the perfect socio path. Why volunteer information? That's a red flag to me. Telling the story of how he took a woman who belonged to another man, and having the 'guts' to confront that man: I'd like to interview the wronged man to see if that story is really true. I think he was hired by Jackie to make him disappear, and probably paid off. Why else would there be a rift in the family? It's due to secrets. Whose idea was it to fire the gun? Rob, the brother in law? Yeah, I bet. But his honest looking face made it look like he was doing it for the right reasons. He doesn't look open and honest to me; he looks a bit suspect. And why wouldn't he agree to an interview for this piece?

  • @lyndonhilder6912
    @lyndonhilder6912 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is rob Dale related to the ex cop paul Dale ?

  • @incognito793
    @incognito793 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What's Ron Iddles opinion?

  • @realdluvchrist5447
    @realdluvchrist5447 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Australian Whodunnit!
    👍💯👍

  • @ponygirlusa
    @ponygirlusa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This cop doesn't sound interested in finding out what happened to him at all.

  • @Ad_Astra_321
    @Ad_Astra_321 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But there's *no* evidence. He was great at camping, survival & did a high risk job, but that doesn't mean he was killed.

    • @The_Crusty_Old_Hag_Next_Door
      @The_Crusty_Old_Hag_Next_Door ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well he definitely isn’t alive

    • @Ad_Astra_321
      @Ad_Astra_321 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The_Crusty_Old_Hag_Next_Door That much looks certain, but murdered? Yeah, nah... imo, of course.

  • @trinafirey1175
    @trinafirey1175 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How very sad. 😢

  • @liamcelt1321
    @liamcelt1321 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I reckon a dingo got him.................

  • @EddyCroft
    @EddyCroft ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The person who last saw him killed him.

  • @neilfarrow5554
    @neilfarrow5554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had one hell of a insurance policy

  • @rebeccadoherty6022
    @rebeccadoherty6022 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mmm I’m still thinking the brother in law…. Hence the sister wanting to do the plaque and not tell anyone.. and the rest siding/or covering for him .. dare I say the wife may have had a deal with them🤭

    • @melhall84
      @melhall84 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed about the brother inlaw, although the family and the wife teaming up against the brother is a bit far fetched.

  • @patriciahill4492
    @patriciahill4492 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always seems like the decent people are the ones to go first before the evil people. Unfortunately we may never know what happened to David. Very sad indeed. 😔

  • @kevindonohoe3474
    @kevindonohoe3474 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a very sad case

  • @LadyCaroline123
    @LadyCaroline123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn’t it suspicious the brother-in-law didn’t fire shots in the air after an hour or so when David didn’t come back? Or if David was lost he would have fired shots in the air?

  • @marycahill546
    @marycahill546 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In North America we are used to the boreal forest swallowing people up with perhaps some scrap of their clothing found many years later. That is rough country up there. I don't think he ran away. I think he went hunting and had a sudden death of some sort, and the searchers probably walked right by his remains. That is the most likely explanation, not murder.

  • @adamarlem9863
    @adamarlem9863 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From faraway,yes foul play+removal: something would have turned up in the area,you don't go tumbling down without lost gear,etc :(

  • @agirlisnoone5953
    @agirlisnoone5953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wouldn't be shocked if he did disappear on purpose

  • @bildproffs
    @bildproffs ปีที่แล้ว

    Whatever happened, it wasn't an assassination. Because, how would a killer know exactly where his victim would be in the forest? It was definitely some kind of accident or illness. That he has not been found is far from unique. It constantly happens that you find bodies in places where you have already searched, both with and without dogs and technical aids.

  • @dapawap
    @dapawap ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor innocent animals, hunters are cowards! Can’t watch this!

  • @grevberg
    @grevberg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did anyone think of bringing a dog??

  • @paulmavric887
    @paulmavric887 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sad story❤

  • @Dr.Gunsmith
    @Dr.Gunsmith ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why would one ever want to stop a family search for a loved one. Hmmm 🤔

  • @Cuz_lufc
    @Cuz_lufc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if he had life insurance
    Feels like the wife knows more then she's letting on

  • @davos4wdadventures
    @davos4wdadventures ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I guess if U know to much.. cops know.. poor family..
    Vic police , coroner hang your heads..
    Also suss on the wife..
    Also inmates knowing what he did on weekends..silly move..

  • @fernemcallister6774
    @fernemcallister6774 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very strange police were pretty blasé about searching for him. Why on earth would they use David’s vehicle, have brother in law fire gun. Strange.

  • @juliachildress2943
    @juliachildress2943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No matter what happened to him, foul play, accident or medical emergency David would absolutely not want it to tear their tight knit family apart. That's really a second tragedy to this whole thing.

  • @theranjithjay
    @theranjithjay ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2011 Australia - David Prideaux a prison boss disappeared in the high country when on a deer hunting trip, with Rob Dale, his brother in law. The two parted trying to roundup deer but David failed to join up with Rob as planned and Rob called police after nine hours after he failed to meet him. Police searched for David for three days and were hampered by bad weather. The think that one has to consider is both David and Dale went to kill innocent animals like deer roaming in their own forests. A month passed after David disappeared. David’s brothers did not believe that David just disappeared in the wilderness and family relations became strained. Victorian police did not believe Rob Dale had anything to do with David’s disappearance and three years passed. And a Coroner’s report ruled out any foul play. In 2012 anew search was arranged but David’s wife Joanne did not want the search to go ahead. David’s brothers Steven and Paul did not believe the rumours and pressed on with their own investigations. Then stories about Karl Williams and crime bosses and informers emerged and many believed David was murdered and he died not due to an accident or natural causes and there were those who believed that David died of a heart attack. David’s gun and his equipment had never been found.

    • @scoldedcat
      @scoldedcat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for clearing that up.

    • @Carolina-ux1sz
      @Carolina-ux1sz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm pretty sure this is what they just said??......

    • @thomasr53
      @thomasr53 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi ปีที่แล้ว

      yes

    • @dawnb3194
      @dawnb3194 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤯

  • @brenmanock
    @brenmanock ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So sad. Big loss

  • @eileencameron1510
    @eileencameron1510 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really sad that the two brothers whom won’t give up on finding out exactly what happened to their brother and want to find his body and are rattling cages,at
    Re being cut off from other family members.Nephews n nie😂ces missing out on two awesome uncles.I wood want these guys I. My court if I or a loved one went missing.Not the members who are satisfied without a body and just happy for a service.Good on you Two brothers much love from Vancouver island Canada prayers for you to find out and find your BRO 🌎☮️🙏💜💜💜 🍁 h

  • @coreencasey5109
    @coreencasey5109 ปีที่แล้ว

    People please don’t go into the bush solo anywhere. There are so many ravines and crevasses people can fall into and their gear disappears with them.

  • @grumpyoldgit8254
    @grumpyoldgit8254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last person to see him alive, his wifes brother, and wasn't he supposed to have been having an affair, the guy had motive, opportunity, and also the last known person to have seen David alive, sounds pretty slam dunk to me, imho