18:09 as a paratrooper, that would totally work. I prefer to stow my chest rig in my MAWC (modular airborne weapons case). It takes longer to put on when I hit the ground, but I have to get my rifle and nods up anyway. Sitting in LBE and a harness for hours is a great way to overheat, chaf and get impossible-to-scratch itches. Even though we will most likely never do a real combat jump again, if we did, we would rig during the flight, so the discomfort would be manageable.
I have the Haley Strategic clips in my TAPS, also. Along with a multi-tool, I have a metal paint can opener for those pesky brass cases that can’t be cleared with finger sweeps, etc.
Thanks for yet another fantastic video. I pulled my TAPS out after the second video to reconsider. I'm not sure I'll go back to it yet, BUT the demonstrations are sure making me think hard about it. Great job!!!
After a good bit of testing and playing around with my TAPS rig I came out pretty dang close to the same set up. Some medical stuff Id recommend you try thats worked well for me is the Bear Minimum inner pouch from Refuge Medical and a USGI TQ pouch mounted sideways below the grenade pouches (yeah that means you'll have to move them up and maybe rearrange their order). The TQ pouch fits nice horizontally on mine and accessible with both hands without getting in the way of my legs (Im short and built so I feel you on the dangler issues). The Bear Min inner pouch fits the Sekri and 100rnd SAW pouches, keeps everything organized, can be pulled out (easily too) and opened with one hand and has a lifetime garuntee. You can get it in a pre built IFAK kit, just the inner and outer pouches or also just the inner if you call and specialnorder it like that.
Thanks for the update! 1. Love the idea of using the mag insert retention, im going to change mine immediatly. 2. I took the dangler pouch off of mine, first time out with it. Love the info!
Would love to get maybe a helmet/comm and possibly rifle set up if feasible but all in all greta content man wish you were around when I was a private you would’ve saved me so much trail and error!
I listen to alot of audiobooks at work and here lately I've been on a Vietnam infantryman written books and more than once they have written how the vc would use whistles for different tactics. One way was to like heard or push the units to a specific ambush location another was communication. So that whistle could be useful if the team is on the same page. Plus if u heard whistles in multiple locations around u that itself would be a mind fuck
Good stuff, I always find it interesting seeing how others set theirs up. I think the TAPS gets a lot of hate because big army likes to force everyone to dress-right-dress but the whole point of this is for it to be modular to the specific user. A lot of the shit I keep in my assault pack you stow up front. I like the idea of the easy access but I don’t think I could sacrifice all the ammo I carry. I’ve got 11+1 which has always been too much and I’ve never had to use all of them, but that’s preferable to going black on ammo imo. You gave me some food for thought though.
I really dig this series of videos. Have you had any issues shouldering your rifle with the canteen on the right side of the rig? You should consider showing the gear being worn for those of us trying to decide if a particular component will work for us. Keep at it man.
No there’s no clearance problems. And a lot of people have asked for that so in the future I’ll probably start posting pictures wearing it on my instagram page
Three days...we always plan for three days every time you leave the wire. Especially if it's just for a one day op, shit always goes south, and it ALWAYS goes longer than planned.
When would you use your Ferro belt and plate carrier setup over your other belt kit with the butt pack and then when would the TAPS be used over those other 2 setups ? I assume where your going and for how long would dictate most of it? Love the channel keep the vids coming.
No, I use all of those kits by themselves. My plate carrier and ferro belt is one kit, then taps rig is a different one, and the belt kit is a different kit as well
Yeah that’s what I figured but I was wondering how you decide which kit setup to run. Depends on what your doing ? Or is it decided for you prior to whatever the mission is ?
I usually have a canteen cup in my ruck sack, and no I usually don’t carry a flashlight on this kit, I always have a small micro stream in my pocket though
I understand when you need a chest rig vs. when you need a plate carrier. I get that you can get a chest rigs that attach to/or can be worn over your plate carrier. I also see where it is advantageous to have your plate carrier and chest rig set up similarly in order to build muscle memory. But, I have never heard anyone say you can take the plates out of your plate carrier and simply wear it as a chest rig. Is this a bad idea? If so, please explain why. Great info. Please keep it up.
Ordered a surplus brand new one. Looks way better than the LBV I got in '10-'15, although being able to remove the vest and have the belt only was nice imo. but this having the built in mag straps in the vest was enough for me to grab one for 25$.
Completed setup on TAPS Chest Rig. I deploy on the US FLC vest by 2x Triple M4 mag pouches + 2x 1Quat Nalgene Oasis water bottle + 1x rear Admin pouch for One Day - Hiking loadout. Cost-Effective way without burden
Do you carry 6 or 7 mags? I carried 13 on deployment. We were conducting air assaults in the mountains in RC east and always felt like the standard 7 wasnt enough.
7 is standard combat load, I go a bit lighter on my chest rig for 2 reasons. 1) I don’t have the room, 2) if I’m not wearing armor, I’m trying to avoid contact. On my plate carrier and battle belt kit I usually carry 6, 1 on my belt, 1 in my gun. Then I have the capability to plus up to a double combat load.
Nice work. There’s a lot gear smears out there. Which is cool to look cool, just know how to function your kit and be fluid in your workspace. You’ve got a great rifleman’s set up!
Awesome video. The information you provided was very helpful. You have me asking myself "Do I really need another D3 rig considering how expensive it is? Or should I just get a TAP and mod it out the way I want it!"
Well done, nice set up. I don't remember having an H harness. How are they compared to an X? Solid choice on the Headlamp. Always wore mine around my neck in the field. Easy to find and never left it behind.
I think the taps was the best invention ever compared to the old flc. People never build proper set ups with them. The cool thing with taps you can carry a ruck without any issue and can still carry a full combat load without the shit weight of armor.
Personally, I don’t like doing that, if I have a TQ in my left shoulder pocket and I lose my left arm, I might not even have TQ that anymore. But if I lose my right arm, I can’t get to the TQ anyway. I understand carrying extra, that’s not a problem, but I wouldn’t want to have to rely on them is all I’m saying.
What do you think of a video on Urban not door-to-door but defending Urban. I took a rangefinder and arrange some stuff through my windows I have shots from 0 to about 235 yards. I am thinking of going down the lpvo rabbit hole LOL
How do you get the haley strategic inserts to work with those magpouches on the TAPS? When I put them in mine, the mags become extremely difficult to remove and basically impossible to reindex.
Stick your mags in amd leave them like that for a few weeks. They will lossen up. If you want them to loosen up faster, you can stick mags in and pieces of cardboard in with the mags to bend them out further. Then heat with a heat gun or leave in the sun for a day or two.
Would you recommend a TAPS setup for Marines across the board or more for just infantry MOSs? Seems that the chest rig is the way forward as we expect the next conflict to be more conventional in nature. In my opinion, it seems plate carrier setups will not bode well in a conventional conflict like it did during the war on terror. Love the videos!
Armor is more important in near-peer conflict than in counter-insurgency. Your enemy is better-armed with way more ordnance, and can actually contest your own artillery and air support.
@@travelingspartan2035agreed, in Ukrain I’ve hear numerous interview where they say don’t even let you go near the front unless you have armor. The artillery frag they say is just wild over there and gets way more people the bullets do. But in peer on peer conflict that’s how it’s been since like ww1
@travelingspartan2035 Even if you are wearing body armor all the time, using it in conjunction with a chest rig can still make sense. I use the chest rig/body armor combo despite the fact that I'm wearing body armor almost all the timr
@@personalaccount8914 I think you may be replying to the wrong comment because I wasn't really arguing that, rather I was disputing the above commenter who thinks chest rigs should be worn *instead of* armor in near-peer conflict. Regardless, I think whether you use a PC to carry things or keep it slick and mount a rig/TAP/FLC/LBV to it, is one part "mission dictates" and one part "different strokes for different folks." I don't prefer that method because the modern placard system sort of lets you have it both ways anyway, and my current job doesn't really require the advantages of that approach. Plus I've had annoying experiences (army 12B OSUT) with having to don and doff both an IOTV and a FLC over it multiple times a day for weeks on end, which I think has given me a strong personal bias against such a setup. Where I do think that method could be favorable is in any hypothetical where you'd need to be able to disappear into a civilian populace quickly; youd be able to rip off all your bulky sustainment items and stash them in a bag in one go, and your now-slick PC could be hidden under a jacket.
How the weight distribution? Does the TAP system distribute it to your hips at all? I assume it doesn't bother you since you set it up that way. There's always the question of is it too much weight up front. What do you think?
I completely changed my view of things 2 years ago when i got out. Now all my gear is just modern day vietcong poverty rigs. Why not run ur battle bra with just mags and meds and then put all that excess admin stuff on a belt or in a small bulloch bag. I go by philosophy that the only things i need readily accessible at an instant are things to take life and things to save life, everything else in a bag
For me the reason why I don’t use a belt is because I’d rather use the hip belt on my 65+ lb plus rucksack. It makes for a heavy chest rig but that hip belt is essential
@TheGruntPerspective you should still be able to if you position ur pack high up, all the old alice kit used to act as a little shelf for my pack and the waist band was jus below my belly button around my upper hips.
It's harder to sit in a vehicle with a big belt kit. It also can get in the way of large rucks that you'll be using the waist belt with. If the ruck is short enough or adjustable you can usually wear it high enough that it sits on the rear pouches of the belt kit. Belt kit and a short back ruck is the superior way to carry a lot of stuff if you're dismounted, but a chest rig and ruck also works and does some things better.
@TheGruntPerspective I hear you , and explosive fetus as well. I spent most of my time in as a light infantryman doing mainly dismounted presence patrols. All we had were large Alice packs and Alice h harness belt. Imo it just seems like too much to carry on your chest, but if it works it works and give em hell.
I run my taps on my plate carrier because Im on a vehicle crew. Its not as comfortable as running pouches directly on your kit but when you are mounting and dismounting being able to get skinny is a valueble thing. Mount it, do some running and crawling to see if you like it.
@@AlcoholicWarfare The problem is that military armored vehicles are too uncomfortable and cramped for those who have to get into them with all their equipment.😂😂😂 Personally I prefer to have a plate carrier loaded adequately and which allows me not to be awkward in my movements, and to balance its weight using the belt equipped with additional pockets.
They may sound stupid but I have scoured the interwebs for that specific Battery Case/Holder/Caddy/ Whatever and I cannot find that F@#$! thing anywhere! WHY???. Brother, if you have a link or have one you want to sell, please, reply.
I appreciate the reply but I’m looking for the exact battery case shown in this video. I have storacells but they do not make a fully enclosed battery caddy/holder.
I just got today on my hands a TAPS panel. Surely not designed to take HK G3 magazines but, it can take one in the middle pouch with no problem. From the middle pouch you leave the left and right pouch empty for smaller items (you can not fit G3 magazines in all of them) and you can fit another magazine in the next left and another in the next right. Plus 2 in the radio pouches if you want. That is a total of five on the panel.
@@TheGruntPerspective I like the molle waist pack because of the compression straps to keep everything tight. It can fit MREs/snacks, other medical redundancies, or even 3 extra mags in a bandoiler folded up. I agree with having some sustainment kit outside of the assault pack in the rare case you have to ditch it or the fact that its easier to access stuff that isn't in the assault pack.
"In combat you will have smoke and frag grenades" unless you're a civilian, in which case you're not going to have access to either at all ever for any reason. Reason. So you can take your frag grenade and grenade pouches and fill them with something else.
Looks great, excellent for breech or range training. Fighting would require Armor Below the rig. Your CAT-T's should be on your straps. Just inquiring, how old/young are you?
i still cannot believe how the military adopted this chest rig monstrosity as standard issue,this shit makes me cringe in pain just by looking at it,should have stuck with the regular plate carrier/FLC formula,the DoD is killing your body
@@TheGruntPerspective I was actually looking for information about it. I'm considering one and from the. Thumbnail yours stood out. It looks usable. But six minutes of pre amble is ridiculous. And you repeated yourself several times.
As NCO's and SNCO's we are tasked with passing on information that is vital to the survival of ours troops, keeping this to oneself helps no one. GYSgt USMC Ret. Semper Fi
Bravo-Zulu, Devil Dog! I retired USN Aviation but I have been looking for a good Chest Rig that is modular and upgradable unlike the Velocity System Mayflower UW CHEST RIG THE PUSHER GEN VI which is a good chest rig in the sense that it has the capacity to carry AR/AK/FAL&AR10 Mags but the pouches are fixed and there is NO Upgrades unless I send it to a PR buddy of mine that is still on active duty and have him add what I want to the rig which he already told me he would but I do not want to have to go thru that. Now that I am retired I have a small business and have access to Tac Gear and I wanted to know what your Opinion on the Ibiley Manufacturing Corp Chest Rig USMC Military Surplus New Magazine Pouches Coyote Brown is this a Solid Base to build an upgradable Chest Rig? I like the idea of using different brands of pouches to get the ones that will get the job done better since no one company makes the best of everything usually it takes three or four companies to get a proper balance. I am a big fan of Tactical Tailor, SOE and Hailey Strategic but again their Chest Rigs are AWESOME but not Upgradable! www.msrdistribution.com/marine-corp-chest-rig-coyote
Taping the water tabs to the canteen is a great idea 💡 that’s why we all need to watch all channels, you can always learn for someone.
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Yea I have seen this before but didn’t catch that part last time lol
Hell yeah bro, I’m still running my TAPS now even as a civilian. It’s actually a great piece of kit when modified to suit specific needs of the user.
It’s not bad, just needs a little bit of mods, for the price point you definitely can’t beat it
that sheer retention is the type of thing people would call "Ranger Sheers" or something, super cool
I never knew that, thanks for watching!
18:09 as a paratrooper, that would totally work. I prefer to stow my chest rig in my MAWC (modular airborne weapons case). It takes longer to put on when I hit the ground, but I have to get my rifle and nods up anyway. Sitting in LBE and a harness for hours is a great way to overheat, chaf and get impossible-to-scratch itches. Even though we will most likely never do a real combat jump again, if we did, we would rig during the flight, so the discomfort would be manageable.
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From an E4 Army grunt, I dig the philosophy. You and I have almost the exact same mindset on this.
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I have the Haley Strategic clips in my TAPS, also. Along with a multi-tool, I have a metal paint can opener for those pesky brass cases that can’t be cleared with finger sweeps, etc.
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Big fan of that TQ pocket method.
Holy shit venture surplus just commented on my video
Holy shit @@TheGruntPerspective responded to my comment
Water tabs taped to the canteen. Solid trick. Thanks.
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These are making a come back all over the net. Loving the videos my dude.
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I love this channel man, real information for the grunts using the gear they they get issued. Keep it up
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Thanks for yet another fantastic video. I pulled my TAPS out after the second video to reconsider. I'm not sure I'll go back to it yet, BUT the demonstrations are sure making me think hard about it. Great job!!!
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New favorite gear channel. Love the no nonsense, no fluff kit breakdowns.
Ah yes, my nightly gear ASMR
Essential
I thought I was the only one 😅
Nah it puts me right to sleep. I do it with a few different content creators.@@johnhurt9858
After a good bit of testing and playing around with my TAPS rig I came out pretty dang close to the same set up.
Some medical stuff Id recommend you try thats worked well for me is the Bear Minimum inner pouch from Refuge Medical and a USGI TQ pouch mounted sideways below the grenade pouches (yeah that means you'll have to move them up and maybe rearrange their order). The TQ pouch fits nice horizontally on mine and accessible with both hands without getting in the way of my legs (Im short and built so I feel you on the dangler issues).
The Bear Min inner pouch fits the Sekri and 100rnd SAW pouches, keeps everything organized, can be pulled out (easily too) and opened with one hand and has a lifetime garuntee. You can get it in a pre built IFAK kit, just the inner and outer pouches or also just the inner if you call and specialnorder it like that.
Thank you!
Thanks for the update!
1. Love the idea of using the mag insert retention, im going to change mine immediatly.
2. I took the dangler pouch off of mine, first time out with it.
Love the info!
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Cool video as always. Thanks for sharing dude. I like the hair tie on the shears.
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Thanks for sharing. You are absolutely correct about going heavy. Definitely appreciate you sharing your rig for us regular grunts.
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Solid kit bro thanks for the knowledge transfer..
I got 12 mags, a 1 quart canteen, an IFAK, and an admin pouch on mine. Yes. It's heavy. My FLC in the Army was lighter, but that was only 7 mags.
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I like the way you think. Mine has 8, and other goodies too.
man your channel is one of my favorite on youtube, always happy to see a new video
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Would love to get maybe a helmet/comm and possibly rifle set up if feasible but all in all greta content man wish you were around when I was a private you would’ve saved me so much trail and error!
I’ve got a helmet/ comm setup video already brother! It’s on my channel! Thanks for watching
Have enjoyed every video I’ve watched, keep up the great work!
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I listen to alot of audiobooks at work and here lately I've been on a Vietnam infantryman written books and more than once they have written how the vc would use whistles for different tactics. One way was to like heard or push the units to a specific ambush location another was communication. So that whistle could be useful if the team is on the same page. Plus if u heard whistles in multiple locations around u that itself would be a mind fuck
When I have used it it’s worked flawlessly
Whistle is super underrated . I had a TOP that told us in gun fights his team would use it for IA because screaming is less reliable in noise
Oh yeah I use it all the time
Hats off to the conventional guys. Battalion bait
Fix bayonets
Good stuff, I always find it interesting seeing how others set theirs up. I think the TAPS gets a lot of hate because big army likes to force everyone to dress-right-dress but the whole point of this is for it to be modular to the specific user.
A lot of the shit I keep in my assault pack you stow up front. I like the idea of the easy access but I don’t think I could sacrifice all the ammo I carry. I’ve got 11+1 which has always been too much and I’ve never had to use all of them, but that’s preferable to going black on ammo imo. You gave me some food for thought though.
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Brilliant trick with the water tabs. I run a Spiritus MK4 set up in almost the exact same configuration as this. Awesome
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Black folk need camo to. Theor skin shines as well
It’s pronounced “dark green”
Greener Marines!
I really dig this series of videos. Have you had any issues shouldering your rifle with the canteen on the right side of the rig? You should consider showing the gear being worn for those of us trying to decide if a particular component will work for us.
Keep at it man.
No there’s no clearance problems. And a lot of people have asked for that so in the future I’ll probably start posting pictures wearing it on my instagram page
That’s a badass setup bro. Great review.
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Agreed. I detest danglers! I don't Iike anything on my legs at all. Drop holsters are a no go as well. 😆
I just can’t do it
Three days...we always plan for three days every time you leave the wire. Especially if it's just for a one day op, shit always goes south, and it ALWAYS goes longer than planned.
When would you use your Ferro belt and plate carrier setup over your other belt kit with the butt pack and then when would the TAPS be used over those other 2 setups ? I assume where your going and for how long would dictate most of it? Love the channel keep the vids coming.
No, I use all of those kits by themselves. My plate carrier and ferro belt is one kit, then taps rig is a different one, and the belt kit is a different kit as well
Yeah that’s what I figured but I was wondering how you decide which kit setup to run. Depends on what your doing ? Or is it decided for you prior to whatever the mission is ?
@@Nignog187Steven Seagal sends you a dick pic with instructions on which kit to don or doff.
Nice loadout , 2 things i didnt see though. A canteen cup , and just a reg flash light? I use a dbl pistol mag pouch for my flashlight and leatherman.
I usually have a canteen cup in my ruck sack, and no I usually don’t carry a flashlight on this kit, I always have a small micro stream in my pocket though
Outstanding.
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I understand when you need a chest rig vs. when you need a plate carrier. I get that you can get a chest rigs that attach to/or can be worn over your plate carrier. I also see where it is advantageous to have your plate carrier and chest rig set up similarly in order to build muscle memory. But, I have never heard anyone say you can take the plates out of your plate carrier and simply wear it as a chest rig. Is this a bad idea? If so, please explain why. Great info. Please keep it up.
@@MarkMurphy-z9u yeah I wouldn’t do that, it wouldn’t fit you right without the plates you know
If you do that at least use some fake insert plate but yeah, chest rig is generally better if you don't need/can't afford the weight of a body armor
Ordered a surplus brand new one. Looks way better than the LBV I got in '10-'15, although being able to remove the vest and have the belt only was nice imo. but this having the built in mag straps in the vest was enough for me to grab one for 25$.
It’s definitely a lot of bang for your buck
Completed setup on TAPS Chest Rig. I deploy on the US FLC vest by 2x Triple M4 mag pouches + 2x 1Quat Nalgene Oasis water bottle + 1x rear Admin pouch for One Day - Hiking loadout. Cost-Effective way without burden
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Do you carry 6 or 7 mags? I carried 13 on deployment. We were conducting air assaults in the mountains in RC east and always felt like the standard 7 wasnt enough.
7 is standard combat load, I go a bit lighter on my chest rig for 2 reasons. 1) I don’t have the room, 2) if I’m not wearing armor, I’m trying to avoid contact.
On my plate carrier and battle belt kit I usually carry 6, 1 on my belt, 1 in my gun. Then I have the capability to plus up to a double combat load.
Bear in mind there are many ways to carry more in your pack/ruck. Your ammo is not limited to just what you can fit on your chest and belt
Nice work. There’s a lot gear smears out there. Which is cool to look cool, just know how to function your kit and be fluid in your workspace. You’ve got a great rifleman’s set up!
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Awesome video. The information you provided was very helpful. You have me asking myself "Do I really need another D3 rig considering how expensive it is? Or should I just get a TAP and mod it out the way I want it!"
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Love the shears retention
Thank you!
Well done, nice set up.
I don't remember having an H harness. How are they compared to an X?
Solid choice on the Headlamp. Always wore mine around my neck in the field. Easy to find and never left it behind.
I definitely prefer h over x harness. The taps comes with a goofy Y harness
Thanks for the videos
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What is your opinion on the M1941 pack system, Grunt?
I think the taps was the best invention ever compared to the old flc. People never build proper set ups with them. The cool thing with taps you can carry a ruck without any issue and can still carry a full combat load without the shit weight of armor.
It’s oh yeah I’m a huge fan
What about having the tourniquets on the shoulder pockets?
Personally, I don’t like doing that, if I have a TQ in my left shoulder pocket and I lose my left arm, I might not even have TQ that anymore. But if I lose my right arm, I can’t get to the TQ anyway. I understand carrying extra, that’s not a problem, but I wouldn’t want to have to rely on them is all I’m saying.
What do you think of a video on Urban not door-to-door but defending Urban. I took a rangefinder and arrange some stuff through my windows I have shots from 0 to about 235 yards. I am thinking of going down the lpvo rabbit hole LOL
Lpvo for urban? Just run a dot and a magnifier
Current standard issue is LPVO, solid optic and extremely versatile in all environments from urban to mountain
How do you get the haley strategic inserts to work with those magpouches on the TAPS? When I put them in mine, the mags become extremely difficult to remove and basically impossible to reindex.
They are just like that for a while, they just need to break in
Stick your mags in amd leave them like that for a few weeks. They will lossen up. If you want them to loosen up faster, you can stick mags in and pieces of cardboard in with the mags to bend them out further. Then heat with a heat gun or leave in the sun for a day or two.
What kind of case do you use for your batteries?
I can’t find them any more, but these are very similar
www.amazon.com/Brand-CR123A-Battery-Holder-Storage/dp/B077BGJLBP
Thanks! @@TheGruntPerspective
@@TheGruntPerspective Thyrm makes some battery storage stuff. I don't own any.
I really wish a reputable company would start making these TAPS kits in RANGER GREEN!
Such things do not exist
@@TheGruntPerspective
I know I know….
Shit in one hand and hope in the other!
See which one fills up first.
You could maybe try to dye a surplus one yourself? I dunno how well that would turn out but could be cool :)
@@MrSafety42
I thought about that but gave it up.
I’ll just rattle can some brown lines overlapped and offset with OD green.
keep it up stud 🤘
Thanks for watching…doc?
@@TheGruntPerspective penetrator of 103.9 the Von 😎
Would you recommend a TAPS setup for Marines across the board or more for just infantry MOSs? Seems that the chest rig is the way forward as we expect the next conflict to be more conventional in nature. In my opinion, it seems plate carrier setups will not bode well in a conventional conflict like it did during the war on terror.
Love the videos!
For other mos’s I think it’s a good idea to have some sort of rifleman gear to throw on if things get bad
Armor is more important in near-peer conflict than in counter-insurgency. Your enemy is better-armed with way more ordnance, and can actually contest your own artillery and air support.
@@travelingspartan2035agreed, in Ukrain I’ve hear numerous interview where they say don’t even let you go near the front unless you have armor. The artillery frag they say is just wild over there and gets way more people the bullets do. But in peer on peer conflict that’s how it’s been since like ww1
@travelingspartan2035 Even if you are wearing body armor all the time, using it in conjunction with a chest rig can still make sense. I use the chest rig/body armor combo despite the fact that I'm wearing body armor almost all the timr
@@personalaccount8914 I think you may be replying to the wrong comment because I wasn't really arguing that, rather I was disputing the above commenter who thinks chest rigs should be worn *instead of* armor in near-peer conflict.
Regardless, I think whether you use a PC to carry things or keep it slick and mount a rig/TAP/FLC/LBV to it, is one part "mission dictates" and one part "different strokes for different folks." I don't prefer that method because the modern placard system sort of lets you have it both ways anyway, and my current job doesn't really require the advantages of that approach. Plus I've had annoying experiences (army 12B OSUT) with having to don and doff both an IOTV and a FLC over it multiple times a day for weeks on end, which I think has given me a strong personal bias against such a setup. Where I do think that method could be favorable is in any hypothetical where you'd need to be able to disappear into a civilian populace quickly; youd be able to rip off all your bulky sustainment items and stash them in a bag in one go, and your now-slick PC could be hidden under a jacket.
thanks for updateing 👍
I liked your videos on it and it pushed me to buy one because my other rig is a ready rig with only 3 mags.
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Hey man not everyone can be SOF but you lost me at "not a paratrooper" 😂 I had a couple Marines in my chalk at Airborne School, there's hope for you!
Maybe one day 🤞🏻
How the weight distribution? Does the TAP system distribute it to your hips at all? I assume it doesn't bother you since you set it up that way. There's always the question of is it too much weight up front. What do you think?
It’s comfortable, does not distribute any weight to the hips
I completely changed my view of things 2 years ago when i got out. Now all my gear is just modern day vietcong poverty rigs. Why not run ur battle bra with just mags and meds and then put all that excess admin stuff on a belt or in a small bulloch bag. I go by philosophy that the only things i need readily accessible at an instant are things to take life and things to save life, everything else in a bag
For me the reason why I don’t use a belt is because I’d rather use the hip belt on my 65+ lb plus rucksack. It makes for a heavy chest rig but that hip belt is essential
@TheGruntPerspective you should still be able to if you position ur pack high up, all the old alice kit used to act as a little shelf for my pack and the waist band was jus below my belly button around my upper hips.
@@KipKil1igan I’ve tried before, it doesn’t work for me. It does for a lot of people though
Guy is still in.
But maybe you want to do some vids on your Vietnam styled rigd? I definitely tend in that direction.
Are the army and usmc using the same taps??
Yes
It's the same besides color. The Army one is in OCP (multicam) while the USMC version is coyote brown like in this video.
Nice job Devil Dog.
Semper Fi
Semper Fi
Sensational.
Sensational
I don't mind the taps but, what's wrong with a belt and h harness if you have to carry all that.
It's harder to sit in a vehicle with a big belt kit. It also can get in the way of large rucks that you'll be using the waist belt with. If the ruck is short enough or adjustable you can usually wear it high enough that it sits on the rear pouches of the belt kit. Belt kit and a short back ruck is the superior way to carry a lot of stuff if you're dismounted, but a chest rig and ruck also works and does some things better.
I just can’t use a belt with a rucksack, so everything has to go on my chest rig
The TAP is also an issued item. Some units will allow personnel to run private purchase stuff, but many won't.
@TheGruntPerspective I hear you , and explosive fetus as well. I spent most of my time in as a light infantryman doing mainly dismounted presence patrols. All we had were large Alice packs and Alice h harness belt. Imo it just seems like too much to carry on your chest, but if it works it works and give em hell.
How do you carry water with the plate carrier set up?
I’ve done a few different things. Sometimes a canteen on the belt. But usually a camelbak on the back of the plate carrier. Preferably both
Would u rather have that on your chest or as a load bearing system on your hips?
Hips is more comfortable, but I’d rather be able to wear a more traditional ruck then a short back ruck
Do you put it on a plate carrier? Is it comfortable?
Not usually no, but sometimes I will
I run my taps on my plate carrier because Im on a vehicle crew. Its not as comfortable as running pouches directly on your kit but when you are mounting and dismounting being able to get skinny is a valueble thing. Mount it, do some running and crawling to see if you like it.
@@AlcoholicWarfare The problem is that military armored vehicles are too uncomfortable and cramped for those who have to get into them with all their equipment.😂😂😂 Personally I prefer to have a plate carrier loaded adequately and which allows me not to be awkward in my movements, and to balance its weight using the belt equipped with additional pockets.
@@AM-ej7hp In all fairness, Id rather be uncomfortable than dead. Unfortunately my vehicle is a Bradley, so I'll likely be both.
They may sound stupid but I have scoured the interwebs for that specific Battery Case/Holder/Caddy/ Whatever and I cannot find that F@#$! thing anywhere! WHY???. Brother, if you have a link or have one you want to sell, please, reply.
Storeacell
I appreciate the reply but I’m looking for the exact battery case shown in this video. I have storacells but they do not make a fully enclosed battery caddy/holder.
@@MD-173expedition makes or sells battery cases that are enclosed
How did you break in the MP2 inserts if at all? I just got them for my TAPS.
They just loosen up over time. I suppose if you wanted them to be broken in now you could keep working them
@@TheGruntPerspective Thanks. Appreciate it. I just threw my mags in all six and I’ll let them sit for awhile.
Are you ever putting this on your flack?
Sometimes, but my body armor is completely slick when I do that
How did you get your knife in that spot? Sorry for asking if you already have a video on it
No problem! And I attached it with some zip ties to a strap that was inside the pouch
Duuuuuude. It works like a charm. Appreciate it
Have you tried this setup with a battle belt or similar?
Does a magpul daka pouch fit in that inner center mesh pocket?
I do not know but it’s pretty big
@@TheGruntPerspective Ordered a surplus panel that I'm going to mod. That middle pocket might be perfect to stick a daka pouch inside.
Trex arms aint got nothin on ol faithful
Eat your heart out Lucas
@@TheGruntPerspectivelmaooo
Could you suggest some modifications for carrying 7.62 G3 mags?
I don’t believe the pouches are large enough to carry 7.62 mags
I just got today on my hands a TAPS panel. Surely not designed to take HK G3 magazines but, it can take one in the middle pouch with no problem. From the middle pouch you leave the left and right pouch empty for smaller items (you can not fit G3 magazines in all of them) and you can fit another magazine in the next left and another in the next right. Plus 2 in the radio pouches if you want. That is a total of five on the panel.
@@constantinosconstantinou6262id suggest looking into an ALICE LBV set up as it has m14 sized mag pouches
Link for the adapter straps ?
Are you in LAR?
No I am not
Neat
where do you keep your snacks?
If I have any food on me, it’ll be in a survival kit in like a Fanny pack
@@TheGruntPerspective I like the molle waist pack because of the compression straps to keep everything tight. It can fit MREs/snacks, other medical redundancies, or even 3 extra mags in a bandoiler folded up. I agree with having some sustainment kit outside of the assault pack in the rare case you have to ditch it or the fact that its easier to access stuff that isn't in the assault pack.
Do you attach your Taps to your plate carrier or run everything connected to your carrier and the Taps only separate?
I would just drape the taps over the plate carrier if I was doing a mission that required it
@@TheGruntPerspective have you used the ATAPS system at all? Any thoughts on it?
@@billcostanzo6112 I have not, I’d like to get my hands on one
holy shit I'm early
Lol, thanks for watching
"In combat you will have smoke and frag grenades" unless you're a civilian, in which case you're not going to have access to either at all ever for any reason. Reason. So you can take your frag grenade and grenade pouches and fill them with something else.
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say, thanks for watching
You never know... you might stumble across some, made in a garage, that the Good Fairy left laying around.
@@pop401k till then, you can fit 3-4 cans of dip in a frag pouch
Like Skittles !
Smokes are legal, and there's civilian legal flashbangs
Don't trust those Leatherman Wave clips. Mine snagged on a car seatbelt and broke in half.
I’ve never actually used mine in my pocket as primary carry, I’ve definitely lost pocket knives to the tree line in the past, I’ll be careful! Thanks!
Looks great, excellent for breech or range training. Fighting would require Armor Below the rig. Your CAT-T's should be on your straps.
Just inquiring, how old/young are you?
Rah
Kill
i still cannot believe how the military adopted this chest rig monstrosity as standard issue,this shit makes me cringe in pain just by looking at it,should have stuck with the regular plate carrier/FLC formula,the DoD is killing your body
Its honestly not that bad, definitely a step up from the FLC
More about the rig, less babble
No
@@TheGruntPerspective You're like a little kid. I doubt you were a marine. More like a wannabe
@@dirtyscoundrel2013 says the man who watched the video just to complain about it
@@TheGruntPerspective I was actually looking for information about it. I'm considering one and from the. Thumbnail yours stood out. It looks usable. But six minutes of pre amble is ridiculous. And you repeated yourself several times.
@@dirtyscoundrel2013 if you cant handle 6 minutes of discussion by someone clearly more experienced than yourself, you should go back to video games.
Why are you showing people how to do all this stuff ? expecting trouble ?
Because I want to spread my lessons learned so junior guys don’t have to learn the hard way
As NCO's and SNCO's we are tasked with passing on information that is vital to the survival of ours troops, keeping this to oneself helps no one. GYSgt USMC Ret. Semper Fi
Sweet setup bro!
Thanks for watching!
What brand is that other 100 round saw pouch?
The ifak one I actually don’t know
@@TheGruntPerspective damn lol it's actually perfect. Well keep me in mind if you ever figure it out or the pouch has a tag on it somewhere
The FLC needs to be re-issued for MG gunners
Perhaps
the flc vest doesnt do a good job of holding that kind of weight. theyre ok for riflemen.
Bravo-Zulu, Devil Dog! I retired USN Aviation but I have been looking for a good Chest Rig that is modular and upgradable unlike the Velocity System Mayflower UW CHEST RIG THE PUSHER GEN VI which is a good chest rig in the sense that it has the capacity to carry AR/AK/FAL&AR10 Mags but the pouches are fixed and there is NO Upgrades unless I send it to a PR buddy of mine that is still on active duty and have him add what I want to the rig which he already told me he would but I do not want to have to go thru that.
Now that I am retired I have a small business and have access to Tac Gear and I wanted to know what your Opinion on the Ibiley Manufacturing Corp Chest Rig USMC Military Surplus New Magazine Pouches Coyote Brown is this a Solid Base to build an upgradable Chest Rig? I like the idea of using different brands of pouches to get the ones that will get the job done better since no one company makes the best of everything usually it takes three or four companies to get a proper balance. I am a big fan of Tactical Tailor, SOE and Hailey Strategic but again their Chest Rigs are AWESOME but not Upgradable!
www.msrdistribution.com/marine-corp-chest-rig-coyote
I’m not familiar with the chest rig you’re talking about, thanks for watching though!
@@TheGruntPerspective What Brand is your Chest Rig Core?
🫡. Good on you! The mission drives the gear! Great example of that! Everything you need and nothing you don’t.
Thanks for watching!