I spent 25 years as an 11B. 2 combat deployments to Iraq. I have been in small scout/ sniper sections and conventional Light Infantry Platoons. For the life of me I cannot get onboard with these minimalistic kits. I feel naked without the means to sustain immediately on my body. Great review and great overview.
about to make this my squads SOP for kit, been a squad leader for about a year now and have had to learn all of this over years of being in. I greatly appreciate this video
Outstanding video Marine. Semper Fi. I can't guess your rank but I'm willing to bet you are "that guy" that everyone in the company relies on for survival/sustainment/gear expertise. When I left in 2016 most infantry guys were just carrying the bare minimum or less, admin pouches were nonexistent, taps weren't issued, and NVGs went in the cargo pocket (with J arms in the bottom of the ruck). Radios weren't really carried by anyone short of squad leaders. IFAKs stayed in the sealed bag. When guys made rank and had to carry more stuff it seemed like they were just fighting against the issued kit and their enlisted common sense telling them "ounces equal pounds". I agree that at some point the battle between armor coverage and sustainment is going to tip in favor of the latter. It's scary to think about Marines going light on a two way range but it may very well happen
It amazes me how far the load bearing equipment has become. I was in the military in the 70's to late 80's. I was first issued the cotton "H" harness and matching web belt, mag pouches, butt pack with 2 metal canteens, a K-bar or M-16 bayonet and small pouches for first aid and compass. Also a poncho "L" shaped angle flashlight and steel helmet to top it all off.
Trust me. What he is not telling you or SHOWING you is what your midline looks like after about hours and what it FEELS like in 4 let alone humping or patrolling. Even when you harness it correctly it still is a "MotherFuqer"
Yep in the 80s throu 91 we had Web Gear and Flak Jackets keft over from Vietnam War, we did upgrade to M16A-2 No Scopes (unless you were Special Forces or a Sniper) HMMV's with Canvas top and doors. We did have a nice Pack though the Alice packs were lightweight and comfortable.Yep nobody had Plates yet
Your gear looks like it's making a comeback. GWOT era got rides everywhere, while Vietnam you guys walked a lot. Isn't it better to have the weight on your hips versus on your chest?
Been enjoying your series. I retired 20 years ago so seeing the new gear and thought process has been enjoyable. I also appreciate that you have two canteens plus a bladder. I’ve seen many a video where the gear has zero water on it. I would never go anywhere with just a bladder. They pop too easy.
Very interesting to see how the gear is changing from plate carriers to high speed sustainment systems. Feels like we are going back to our Vietnam roots with modern updates. Thank you for taking the time to make this. Looking forward to the plate carrier video. Rah!
You didn't carry that much stuff in Vietnam. With all that stuff you'd have a hard time getting through the jungle, especially through the bamboo. Learned early on, charlie and the NVA never carried that much gear, either.
@@woodsghost9088 evidently the Taliban is far more responsible than we are. We can’t be trusted with even “semi-auto” firearms… but dirka dirka Muhammad jihad can
Outstanding video Marine! Good closing comments. The casualty rating went down by 80% in the Vietnam War after they adopted the Flak. Fragmentation and shrapnel deaths were common prior to the Flak. Intermediate Pool Comp was a gut check. My hope is that they adopt the maritime lightweight buoyant plates that NAVSPECWAR has for our Naval Infantrymen for the coming Pacific/ Asian theatre War. Your Story is Written in Stone. Semper Fi.
Really love all your video's and gear and the way you lay it all out while yo go into details and reasons for all of it. I notice you answer almost all your comments which not a lot of even good channels do. I think it helps people learn and get Info on gear. Keep it up man you Rock.
Videos from Ukraine portray the importance of body armor. The next war may be fought in trenches. Artillery and mortar shrapnel casualties could be reduced with body armor. Looking forward to your plate carrier & rucksack videos.
@@kentallard8852At first, not only US but 35-country coalition. At second, Russia had excellence in quantity and quality of air forces, but could not realize it against Ukraine air forces and air defence. That was the main reason why now they have to fight on the ground in trenches like in the WWI/WWII. This show us, that modern conventional war still is not very blitzkrieg, like many war theorists thought before WWI/WWII. It is still trenches, but with camicadze drones and satellite intelligence. Infantry still rules.
TAPS Chest Rig loadout 8 magazines Two canteens Headlamp Camo face paint Two flat pack tape rolls (100 MPH tape) Bic Lighter and whistle Israeli bandage/Cravat and signal mirror Potable aqua tabs 2 Tourniquets Multi-tool Map of AO/PACE beads 550 cord Small sharpie Red light Orange air panel Water bags (3) 1 liter Liquid IV Small fire kit with tinder, ferro, striker Space blanket in plastic bag wrapped with tape Batteries (4 AA, 4 123A) Insect repellent wipes IFAK
Good. I deploy US FLC vest : 2* Triple M4 magazine pouches + 2* canteen pouches ( with 2* Nalgene Oasis) + 1* rear side admin pouch. Very balanced load-out similar with TAPS present here.
Looking at what the British have done for the last 30 years with kit makes me wanna try that loadout, In hot environments you can go 2-3 days without a pack like that
I only carried 4 magazines for my M-14 with a bandolier to reload magazines. Two canteens, 2 days of food, bayonet a buck knife toothbrush, first aid kit. In an Alice system. Didn’t wear body armor
I run ARs and AKs so I have chest rig load outs for each platform and can throw that over a slick plate carrier if I want armor. May be doing something where getting in a fight isn't likely and don't want the weight and bulk of plates.
I believe that you should completely wire your radio through your chest canis to allow you to plug that straight into your headset, and I think that would just make it a lot more convenient than any other way
@@TheGruntPerspective You can neutralize the flavor with a pinch of vitamin c after the purification process. Grunt in Vietnam started adding Koolade to theirs not knowing it was the vitamin c doing the trick.
I dont see the army doing well in the next war. i see every day what their infantry has been reduced to nowadays. i pray the Corps doesn’t desecrate itself the same way.
It's been a while since I retired after 21 years, but in my day you didn't get to pick your own gear and arrange it the way you want. There was always a Company SOP for required items, and their arrangement. Included in the SOP, there was also a list of items that you could bring and not bring. It sounds to me like there's no standardization, everybody's doing their own thing.
Brother you should check out the the airborne version if you can find one. I chose one over the tap and if you run 7.62 pouches or the tactical tailor universal mag pouches you can have an extremely flexible piece of kit.
Great video, but there is small but important problem. Your TQ is not folded correctly ;) Time strap should be on edge so it is faster to deploy and use tq.
Depends on how you fight and where, what season, what your role is. Fighting straight leg it’s good to have the larger rig, but if you know your out of a vehicle particularly a Bradley, LAV or striker then it becomes a good idea to not have a smaller rig for ease of going in and out of the vehicle. Fighting as a company commander means a different kit than squad automatic rifleman in a fireteam.
@@TheGruntPerspective I look forward to seeing it. I’ve done straight leg, then ops out of humvees in Iraq, then commissioned in the guard and have been part of the mech community since; but the only way they’ll send me out to do infantry stuff again is as a Bradley company commander (but I just finished a company command slot), or in a Bradley as a BN S3.
I’m waiting for belts with harness and flack vests ti come back around myself.. I’m not a fan of chest rigs.. it’s a small bridge between a plate carrier and deuce gear that really answers a question never asked.. h harness and belt carry better with more versatility then a chest rig. You can always add a flack, chest rig or plate Carrier over a good m deuce setup to add more capacity wo ever changing your initial and essential gear.. you also have way less interference concerns when adding a ruck. The Brit’s did it the right way.. they kept the belt and added to it.. I think one should have all three and the plate carrier should be able to have the chest rig attached or detracted quickly for various needs.. but we need ti stop working from chest down and start working from belt up again and I do think eventually that is where we are headed back to as the age of quick hit vehicle born door kicking ends and more conventional trench type ware fare increases
Do a little more research. What you’re “waiting for” is already standard issue. The TAPS shown here can be worn with an H harness, or it can be set up to attach to the issue vest. The vest can be worn with or without plates. The system includes a belt too.
@@coryhoggatt7691clearly you’re the one needing more research..one you’re responding to a random comment made to a video prob a year ago.. and doing so very I won’t say I’ll informed but rather so not even understanding the context of the conversation being had. Last thing.. takes about a 2sec google search on the taps systems to come up with the realization it fits no one.. there are no less then 100 companies that modify them to work as good as it can. That still has absolutely nothing to do with talking about older school jungle type gear work on the belt around the waste via harness if some sort.. See you’re still stuck on the entire concept of a chest rig.. I was actually going down the road of a belt system not a chest system.. The Brit’s have about the best load bearing system out there.. they wear a slick carrier with an old school harnesses belt system. Things carry better around the waist.. and more so larger more universal pouches are way more useful the smaller purpose built pouches. Chest mounted carriers have one and only one use and I’ve got zero clue how they got to where they are currently.. that’s when dawning a full ruck you can’t wear a belt system.. that is seriously the only advantage.. If you feel differently then I invite you come to Florida do some training with me and realize that you want nothing on your upper torso cause of heat. Plates are a secondary not a primary.. People talk about first like a second line and that thinking is ass backwards.. you want to be able to breath and you want mobility.. 99% if the time.. the only fn time you actually have any advantage wearing chest mounted shit is cqb or if you’re the driver of a rig cause it’s fucking hard as fuck to sit with a belt mounted system.. This is why you see law enforcement making that change.. that is the right move for them considering 99% of thier day is spent in a vehicle.. Last thing you clearly never served had to wear this shit real time or if you did it was minimal use.. cause fucking no one wears this this type of shit once over seas and they get more leeway on what they carry and how they carry it.. Takes months of dawning this shit to realize how useless and cumbersome it is at everything.. You want to layer up per the situation but have the .01% if situations be the standard and that is where all branch’s have gone. Jesus you got 2 years now of the war in Ukraine.. go look at what those troops are wearing now compared to what they did 2 years ago.. Seriously you say I need more respect and at the time of you responding to this it would’ve taken you 2min to realize and somewhat understand the things I said and why I said then..
Some of the smaller bits may not be needed/taking up space or could be relegated to a pack. A patrol to me represents something done with intent, patrol area, and not alone; if you are doing demo ops, bring demo ops stuff. A patrol load could be stripped down to water/bullets/medical. Patrol leaders would then need the additional nav, signaling, comms (unless relegated to RTO). A lot of the other gear, while useful, could be added to a pack or supplementary system. Obviously, there would be mission adjustments (Night vision/NBC/waterborne/extended patrol duration). Its too easy to 'what if...' ourselves and overload. I cut my teeth in USAREUR during the Cold War, humping in the wood with a 60 (and riding turret in a truck!)....I get your idea about the COIN mindset. My loadout was bullets for the crew-served I carried, A sidearm and rounds for it, a knife, med, grenades, a few 203 rounds for the team/squad leader, water, and if I had room, a snack. Everything else was kept in a ruck which was dropped left at an ORP.
@@TheGruntPerspective Awwww, it's all still relevant. I saw it was older, but some had been on recently and it just popped up in my feed.....ya know how the algorithm works (because I sure don't).
@@TheGruntPerspective Nice....So I'm looking for views or setups for operations in jungle environments. Do you have any 'swamp' specific variations? (sitting here in my bunker in Saipan, waiting for the Chinese PLA landing craft to arrive and drop ramp....)
I was telling my guys in my scout (19D) platoon before i got out the guard, we need to prepare and train for a conventional war, that means carring canteens, instead of camel bags, E-tools in our rucks or assault packs, more ammo, compasses, protractors, a fix blade or even better a bayonet that can cut wire. When i was the poggiest of pogs back in the BDU days, even i had a buttpack, with just the basics mre bag, and a poncho. But i was maintenance pog so if i would have been in the shit then things would have gone drastically wrong. Technology is good to have but it's not good to depend on, it sucks carrying all that extra stuff but sucks more if you don't have it and you need it Edit for grammatical errors
@@TheGruntPerspective i just hope that none of your guys ever have to deal with NBC or CBRN or whatever they call now, that's its probably the worst scenario for our young service members
You make an interesting point at the beginning regarding standards of carry for past conflicts. I got a redundant question because you showed us in the video. But If you could change the carry standard off of the Infantry T&R standard for the assault load, what would you add to it? Would you add anything else to it that isn’t in the vid?
What do you think about wearing your FLC or TAPS over your plate carrier/IOTV? That's basically SOP for anybody using issued stuff in my unit. You can use buckles to secure the FLC/TAPS to the plate carrier/IOTV to minimize excess strap.
It can be done well if you upgrade the harness on your taps to an h harness. All in all I think it’s a good idea though, it allows for you to have a patrol load and an assault load. I’ve done this many times personally where I wear my taps and carry my plate carrier in my pack completely slick. When it comes time to do so I stop, adjust my harness on my taps a bit, and throw my armor on under my taps.
We could not keep SOP supply pushed up in Desert Storm, even before the ground fight started. Always a rear POG holding back or an OIC more worried about rear area officer call than takning care of his foward Marines.
great video and kit! im new to gear and im looking to get a TAPS for myself and build it very similarly to yours, do you happen to remember what kind of pouches you have and where you got them, or maybe some recommendations?
Thank you very impressive....one ? Flashlight or pen light beside your headlamp and why don't u switch out two canteen for a 3 liter camel back lighter gear
Hydro pouches fail and get nasty. Canteens are grunt proof and easy to clean. I also prefer canteens because it's easier to gauge how much water is left, I always run out early with a CB lol.
You should also put your iMac in a fanny pack as that will allow to wear it separately so if you don’t have your fighting gear on, you can still have your IFAK with you all times
If you take a look at my taps kit upgrades video, I explain it there! But in short it’s just malice clips attached to the webbing on the pouch and on the chest rig
I see all these fellow civilians running around with high speed chest rigs, as if they are conducting a stand alone mission or something. The British LBEs that allow for 12 mags plus multiple sustainment packs and allow you to hold the weight on your hips just make so much more sense to me. Not as cool, but way more options. You can always throw a chest rig/armor on top of it.
I'm a fat, old 11H guy from the LC2 generation. I appreciate the intent, and you obviously have the experience to be an authority, but I would think having all that weight and gear on only the front half of your body, would be exhausting and cumbersome. I get the idea of having frequently used items in the front, but I don't really understand the utility of not using the entire waist area (front and back) to distribute the load. I see modern versions of LC2 stuff that would do a great job distributing the load, and spread it to shoulders and waist, and allow the carrying of some minor sustainment gear. Is the intent of this, in your opinion, to facilitate vehicle operations, or is is presumed that an assault pack or something like that will be used too?
@@TheGruntPerspective Got it, thanks. Also, just watched your Infantry belt setup videos which answered questions, and is more my speed. Didn't know the newer ruck hip belt interfered so much. For all it's faults, the ALICE pack worked decently in that respect. Thx for the content.
Maybe covered in a comment response but no way to search the 239 comments (as of writing) made. I am not in military. It appears you have all the basics covered except food. Since this is a SOL setup, it seems like that should be included. Is there a reason you don't carry something like a protein power bar or even protein power powder in your TAPS? Those would seem light weight and that you would need fuel for your body to sustain. You could obviously forage but that takes time and, in some areas, might have limited availability. Love to hear your thoughts.
Quick question, where can i find those LBT buckled mag pouches. I'm not finding any one my search, if you have extras or something lmk I'll buy it off you.
Hey man question. I'm with u about wearing belt with PC. If u don't wear it with taps do u just run ur side arm holster on normal belt? I Kno military always aren't issued side arms but I'm tryna force it just because plus I don't have sop. I run a pretty stuff belt normally so I could just run a holster on it. What's ur take?
No I don’t, the reason I dont wear I a belt is because most the time when I’m wearing this kit I’m doing pretty heavy patrolling. Most the time with pack and hip belt on so I can’t wear both. What I’ve done in the past is remove on of my mags and put my pistol inside a mag pouch.
Haley strategic MP2’s , they fit perfectly in the center 4 pouches with no additional retention required on them. If you try to put them in all 6 mag pouches though the 1st and 6th ones will kinda bind up though
Still don't get how you guys carry everything on your chest. How are you able to stay low, crawl, climb through windows, go flat over walls, etc. without this getting in the way?
@@TheGruntPerspective I get it thanks for that info and reply your channel is now my favorite with gear knowledge or battle rattle lol. there's another channel that I like but it's more survival and field craft and its called Ranger survival and field craft, its great, have you seen it?
I gave them a look and thought hey maybe the mp2s are better than the kywi inserts I bought from SKD a few years ago. The kywi inserts have loop material on them that helps retain the insert in the mag pouch. With the loop on the kywis they would occasionally slide out with the mag, I lost one but Ive added some loop material inside the mag pouch for even better insert retention
I ran 20 round pmags in the taps, They fit tight don’t worry about loosing them only could load four workable but with all the Molly you can add a few dedicated 7.62 x .51
@@TheGruntPerspective ya. Ive used tabs and other purification. I just got a new pair of the caps. Not tried them yet.. freezing is bad for sawyer minis n such. So was curious if caps were grunt proof.. thanks.
I think that in a future conventional war soft armour will be used instead of plates as it is lighter and provides protection from artillery fragmentation threats.
I’d rather carry an extra 20 pounds of water and ammo, then an extra 20 pounds of hard plates. It definitely depends on what you’re doing though, obviously in an urban environment hard plates are going to be worth it. In other environments like mountains or jungle..maybe not so much?
thank you so much for you insight, they do look large in size, I'm Australian we are unable to test these things thank you. i like your video on field jackets VS combat jackets. if i may say it seems misleading to call a combat uniform a combat uniform as they are much less durable .one would think to them self-hay it's got the word combat in it well then it must be good they could call it a fob uniform or even a garrison uniform. @@TheGruntPerspective
I spent 25 years as an 11B. 2 combat deployments to Iraq. I have been in small scout/ sniper sections and conventional Light Infantry Platoons. For the life of me I cannot get onboard with these minimalistic kits. I feel naked without the means to sustain immediately on my body. Great review and great overview.
Thanks for watching!
@@ApocalypseFudd I run a similar loadout with bandoliers in my ruck.
So how much does that thing weigh
@@JR-ld1et50 lbs
@@JR-ld1et I'd guess anywhere from Seven to Eleven pounds.
about to make this my squads SOP for kit, been a squad leader for about a year now and have had to learn all of this over years of being in. I greatly appreciate this video
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching and check out some of my other videos!
Outstanding video Marine. Semper Fi. I can't guess your rank but I'm willing to bet you are "that guy" that everyone in the company relies on for survival/sustainment/gear expertise. When I left in 2016 most infantry guys were just carrying the bare minimum or less, admin pouches were nonexistent, taps weren't issued, and NVGs went in the cargo pocket (with J arms in the bottom of the ruck). Radios weren't really carried by anyone short of squad leaders. IFAKs stayed in the sealed bag. When guys made rank and had to carry more stuff it seemed like they were just fighting against the issued kit and their enlisted common sense telling them "ounces equal pounds". I agree that at some point the battle between armor coverage and sustainment is going to tip in favor of the latter. It's scary to think about Marines going light on a two way range but it may very well happen
Thanks for watching, and yes I am the the “hey man do you have guy”
It amazes me how far the load bearing equipment has become. I was in the military in the 70's to late 80's. I was first issued the cotton "H" harness and matching web belt, mag pouches, butt pack with 2 metal canteens, a K-bar or M-16 bayonet and small pouches for first aid and compass. Also a poncho "L" shaped angle flashlight and steel helmet to top it all off.
That flashlight was called a moonbeam by the time I came in
Trust me. What he is not telling you or SHOWING you is what your midline looks like after about hours and what it FEELS like in 4 let alone humping or patrolling. Even when you harness it correctly it still is a "MotherFuqer"
Yep in the 80s throu 91 we had Web Gear and Flak Jackets keft over from Vietnam War, we did upgrade to M16A-2
No Scopes (unless you were Special Forces or a Sniper) HMMV's with Canvas top and doors. We did have
a nice Pack though the Alice packs were lightweight and comfortable.Yep nobody had Plates yet
Your gear looks like it's making a comeback.
GWOT era got rides everywhere, while Vietnam you guys walked a lot.
Isn't it better to have the weight on your hips versus on your chest?
Awww...cute little insurgent kitty sneaking up on you @ 1:07
Yeah he’s a menace
Been enjoying your series. I retired 20 years ago so seeing the new gear and thought process has been enjoyable.
I also appreciate that you have two canteens plus a bladder. I’ve seen many a video where the gear has zero water on it. I would never go anywhere with just a bladder. They pop too easy.
Thanks for watching!
Very interesting to see how the gear is changing from plate carriers to high speed sustainment systems. Feels like we are going back to our Vietnam roots with modern updates. Thank you for taking the time to make this. Looking forward to the plate carrier video. Rah!
You didn't carry that much stuff in Vietnam. With all that stuff you'd have a hard time getting through the jungle, especially through the bamboo. Learned early on, charlie and the NVA never carried that much gear, either.
They may not have started with aircraft, but by God they’ve got some now!!
Not by God, by Biden.
I forget, weren't the Taliban the bad guys? Did we do that wrong? I thought "the adults were back in charge"? Did I miss something?
@@woodsghost9088 evidently the Taliban is far more responsible than we are. We can’t be trusted with even “semi-auto” firearms… but dirka dirka Muhammad jihad can
😂
@@99cobra2881 aircraft is really pushing it a year later
Outstanding video Marine! Good closing comments. The casualty rating went down by 80% in the Vietnam War after they adopted the Flak. Fragmentation and shrapnel deaths were common prior to the Flak. Intermediate Pool Comp was a gut check. My hope is that they adopt the maritime lightweight buoyant plates that NAVSPECWAR has for our Naval Infantrymen for the coming Pacific/ Asian theatre War. Your Story is Written in Stone. Semper Fi.
Thanks for watching!
Came here for the kit. Stayed for the cat.
Kittie!
Really love all your video's and gear and the way you lay it all out while yo go into details and reasons for all of it. I notice you answer almost all your comments which not a lot of even good channels do.
I think it helps people learn and get Info on gear. Keep it up man you Rock.
Thanks for the support man
Great video. I've been thinking about putting together a TAPS rig and you just convinced me.
Thanks for watching! Sorry about your wallet
me too @@TheGruntPerspective
I appreciate your time spent in making this video, thanks n' God bless brother
Thanks for watching!
Videos from Ukraine portray the importance of body armor. The next war may be fought in trenches. Artillery and mortar shrapnel casualties could be reduced with body armor. Looking forward to your plate carrier & rucksack videos.
You could always set this kit up with a slick plate carrier. That’s if you don’t have big bucks to spend on numerous types of kit.
Iraq tried trenches against the US in the first Gulf War, didn't go well for them
@@kentallard8852At first, not only US but 35-country coalition. At second, Russia had excellence in quantity and quality of air forces, but could not realize it against Ukraine air forces and air defence. That was the main reason why now they have to fight on the ground in trenches like in the WWI/WWII.
This show us, that modern conventional war still is not very blitzkrieg, like many war theorists thought before WWI/WWII. It is still trenches, but with camicadze drones and satellite intelligence.
Infantry still rules.
The TAP comes with attachement to all you to put it on you body armor.
Theoretically if shrapnel and frag is the biggest issue the wouldn’t soft armor work? Like a kind of flak jacket
TAPS Chest Rig loadout
8 magazines
Two canteens
Headlamp
Camo face paint
Two flat pack tape rolls (100 MPH tape)
Bic Lighter and whistle
Israeli bandage/Cravat and signal mirror
Potable aqua tabs
2 Tourniquets
Multi-tool
Map of AO/PACE beads
550 cord
Small sharpie
Red light
Orange air panel
Water bags (3) 1 liter
Liquid IV
Small fire kit with tinder, ferro, striker
Space blanket in plastic bag wrapped with tape
Batteries (4 AA, 4 123A)
Insect repellent wipes
IFAK
Good. I deploy US FLC vest : 2* Triple M4 magazine pouches + 2* canteen pouches ( with 2* Nalgene Oasis) + 1* rear side admin pouch. Very balanced load-out similar with TAPS present here.
Looking at what the British have done for the last 30 years with kit makes me wanna try that loadout, In hot environments you can go 2-3 days without a pack like that
Came for advice on patrol load outs. Stayed for the orange guy. ❤
He’s a criminal
@@TheGruntPerspectiveoooh that’s why you have the kit
invaluable information presented clearly with explanations based on experience. thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I only carried 4 magazines for my M-14 with a bandolier to reload magazines. Two canteens, 2 days of food, bayonet a buck knife toothbrush, first aid kit. In an Alice system. Didn’t wear body armor
Peak infantry
BZ Marine!!! Retired USN guy here----outstanding briefing!
@@3cap97 thanks for watching!
GWOT ('04 to ETS) - Racks and Chest Rigs.
VetBro (ETS to current) - ALICE Belt, Tactical Tailor pouches, DeWalt, Masterforce and Milwaukee!
Love the video, love the cat in the background even more 🐱
GOOD STUFF, VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT, THANK YOU!
Thanks for watching!
Semper-Fi good to see not much has changed but better equipment. We didn't have ACOG's or red-dots we used Iron Sights.
Technology improves but the fundamentals remain the same. All of our weapons have back up irons
Juat gained a new subscriber. Thank you for the helpful information as it will aid me in building my own kit.
Thanks for watching!
The cat really carried this video
He’s a stud
I miss the days when loading my kit was important to me.
😂😂😂😂
I finally took down my Rick Grimes posters.
I run ARs and AKs so I have chest rig load outs for each platform and can throw that over a slick plate carrier if I want armor. May be doing something where getting in a fight isn't likely and don't want the weight and bulk of plates.
I believe that you should completely wire your radio through your chest canis to allow you to plug that straight into your headset, and I think that would just make it a lot more convenient than any other way
That’s what I do, I just didn’t have the PTT on the rig for this video
Great video. Good information. Keep it up.
Thanks for watching!
50 tablets. Only count on that purifying 25 quarts depending on water quality. I always used 2 potable aqua tablets regardless
I always use 2 as well
@@TheGruntPerspective You can neutralize the flavor with a pinch of vitamin c after the purification process. Grunt in Vietnam started adding Koolade to theirs not knowing it was the vitamin c doing the trick.
Sporting that Garmin Instinct Solar watch I see. They'll pretty minimalist and are great watches.
Yeah it’s great
Great videos. No high speed operator flash for the Instagram. Just the info we need to know.
I dont see the army doing well in the next war. i see every day what their infantry has been reduced to nowadays. i pray the Corps doesn’t desecrate itself the same way.
It's been a while since I retired after 21 years, but in my day you didn't get to pick your own gear and arrange it the way you want. There was always a Company SOP for required items, and their arrangement. Included in the SOP, there was also a list of items that you could bring and not bring. It sounds to me like there's no standardization, everybody's doing their own thing.
Brother you should check out the the airborne version if you can find one. I chose one over the tap and if you run 7.62 pouches or the tactical tailor universal mag pouches you can have an extremely flexible piece of kit.
I’ve actually been looking into getting one to make a series on
can yo do a rucksack/extended operations loadout video?
I will be in the near future!
Great video, but there is small but important problem. Your TQ is not folded correctly ;) Time strap should be on edge so it is faster to deploy and use tq.
12:25 LMAO what did the cat do?
I think he knocked something over 😂
Depends on how you fight and where, what season, what your role is. Fighting straight leg it’s good to have the larger rig, but if you know your out of a vehicle particularly a Bradley, LAV or striker then it becomes a good idea to not have a smaller rig for ease of going in and out of the vehicle. Fighting as a company commander means a different kit than squad automatic rifleman in a fireteam.
I’ve got a video coming out soon for infantry vic crewman kit
@@TheGruntPerspective I look forward to seeing it. I’ve done straight leg, then ops out of humvees in Iraq, then commissioned in the guard and have been part of the mech community since; but the only way they’ll send me out to do infantry stuff again is as a Bradley company commander (but I just finished a company command slot), or in a Bradley as a BN S3.
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This came up on my feed, likely because I have watched the gritty soldier and grunt proof.
I’m looking for packs.
I’ve got a few videos on packs
I’m waiting for belts with harness and flack vests ti come back around myself.. I’m not a fan of chest rigs.. it’s a small bridge between a plate carrier and deuce gear that really answers a question never asked.. h harness and belt carry better with more versatility then a chest rig.
You can always add a flack, chest rig or plate Carrier over a good m deuce setup to add more capacity wo ever changing your initial and essential gear.. you also have way less interference concerns when adding a ruck. The Brit’s did it the right way.. they kept the belt and added to it..
I think one should have all three and the plate carrier should be able to have the chest rig attached or detracted quickly for various needs.. but we need ti stop working from chest down and start working from belt up again and I do think eventually that is where we are headed back to as the age of quick hit vehicle born door kicking ends and more conventional trench type ware fare increases
I agree as well, thanks for watching!
Do a little more research. What you’re “waiting for” is already standard issue. The TAPS shown here can be worn with an H harness, or it can be set up to attach to the issue vest. The vest can be worn with or without plates. The system includes a belt too.
@@coryhoggatt7691clearly you’re the one needing more research..one you’re responding to a random comment made to a video prob a year ago.. and doing so very I won’t say I’ll informed but rather so not even understanding the context of the conversation being had.
Last thing.. takes about a 2sec google search on the taps systems to come up with the realization it fits no one.. there are no less then 100 companies that modify them to work as good as it can.
That still has absolutely nothing to do with talking about older school jungle type gear work on the belt around the waste via harness if some sort..
See you’re still stuck on the entire concept of a chest rig.. I was actually going down the road of a belt system not a chest system..
The Brit’s have about the best load bearing system out there.. they wear a slick carrier with an old school harnesses belt system. Things carry better around the waist.. and more so larger more universal pouches are way more useful the smaller purpose built pouches.
Chest mounted carriers have one and only one use and I’ve got zero clue how they got to where they are currently.. that’s when dawning a full ruck you can’t wear a belt system.. that is seriously the only advantage..
If you feel differently then I invite you come to Florida do some training with me and realize that you want nothing on your upper torso cause of heat. Plates are a secondary not a primary..
People talk about first like a second line and that thinking is ass backwards.. you want to be able to breath and you want mobility.. 99% if the time.. the only fn time you actually have any advantage wearing chest mounted shit is cqb or if you’re the driver of a rig cause it’s fucking hard as fuck to sit with a belt mounted system..
This is why you see law enforcement making that change.. that is the right move for them considering 99% of thier day is spent in a vehicle..
Last thing you clearly never served had to wear this shit real time or if you did it was minimal use.. cause fucking no one wears this this type of shit once over seas and they get more leeway on what they carry and how they carry it..
Takes months of dawning this shit to realize how useless and cumbersome it is at everything..
You want to layer up per the situation but have the .01% if situations be the standard and that is where all branch’s have gone. Jesus you got 2 years now of the war in Ukraine.. go look at what those troops are wearing now compared to what they did 2 years ago..
Seriously you say I need more respect and at the time of you responding to this it would’ve taken you 2min to realize and somewhat understand the things I said and why I said then..
Another solid video broski
Thanks for watching!
Some of the smaller bits may not be needed/taking up space or could be relegated to a pack. A patrol to me represents something done with intent, patrol area, and not alone; if you are doing demo ops, bring demo ops stuff. A patrol load could be stripped down to water/bullets/medical. Patrol leaders would then need the additional nav, signaling, comms (unless relegated to RTO). A lot of the other gear, while useful, could be added to a pack or supplementary system. Obviously, there would be mission adjustments (Night vision/NBC/waterborne/extended patrol duration). Its too easy to 'what if...' ourselves and overload. I cut my teeth in USAREUR during the Cold War, humping in the wood with a 60 (and riding turret in a truck!)....I get your idea about the COIN mindset. My loadout was bullets for the crew-served I carried, A sidearm and rounds for it, a knife, med, grenades, a few 203 rounds for the team/squad leader, water, and if I had room, a snack. Everything else was kept in a ruck which was dropped left at an ORP.
@@iratecrab yeah, this video is a little old. And admittedly it’s might be a little bit of overkill on some stuff. Thanks for watching!
@@TheGruntPerspective Awwww, it's all still relevant. I saw it was older, but some had been on recently and it just popped up in my feed.....ya know how the algorithm works (because I sure don't).
The algorithm is Louisiana swamp magic
@@TheGruntPerspective Nice....So I'm looking for views or setups for operations in jungle environments. Do you have any 'swamp' specific variations? (sitting here in my bunker in Saipan, waiting for the Chinese PLA landing craft to arrive and drop ramp....)
where do you put the cat?
Cargo pocket
Never go on patrol without the cat
I really appreciate all of your videos. I’d also like to see what PC setup.
I’ve got a few videos on Plate carrier setup if that’s what you mean!
Good video. Thanks for sharing.
Great loadout for sure.
Thanks for watching!
I have updated it since then, new video is on my channel!
Awsome. Only real-life considerations here
I was telling my guys in my scout (19D) platoon before i got out the guard, we need to prepare and train for a conventional war, that means carring canteens, instead of camel bags, E-tools in our rucks or assault packs, more ammo, compasses, protractors, a fix blade or even better a bayonet that can cut wire.
When i was the poggiest of pogs back in the BDU days, even i had a buttpack, with just the basics mre bag, and a poncho. But i was maintenance pog so if i would have been in the shit then things would have gone drastically wrong.
Technology is good to have but it's not good to depend on, it sucks carrying all that extra stuff but sucks more if you don't have it and you need it
Edit for grammatical errors
Well said brother
@@TheGruntPerspective i just hope that none of your guys ever have to deal with NBC or CBRN or whatever they call now, that's its probably the worst scenario for our young service members
Great video, keep sending
Nice rig! Making some mods to a similar rig, a Condor mcr6.
Check out my upgrade video for some ideas!
You make an interesting point at the beginning regarding standards of carry for past conflicts. I got a redundant question because you showed us in the video. But If you could change the carry standard off of the Infantry T&R standard for the assault load, what would you add to it? Would you add anything else to it that isn’t in the vid?
Man, that is a very good question. If you have instagram hit me up on there?
@@TheGruntPerspective you bet 👍
What do you think about wearing your FLC or TAPS over your plate carrier/IOTV? That's basically SOP for anybody using issued stuff in my unit. You can use buckles to secure the FLC/TAPS to the plate carrier/IOTV to minimize excess strap.
It can be done well if you upgrade the harness on your taps to an h harness. All in all I think it’s a good idea though, it allows for you to have a patrol load and an assault load. I’ve done this many times personally where I wear my taps and carry my plate carrier in my pack completely slick. When it comes time to do so I stop, adjust my harness on my taps a bit, and throw my armor on under my taps.
You should also attach a PPT
We could not keep SOP supply pushed up in Desert Storm, even before the ground fight started. Always a rear POG holding back or an OIC more worried about rear area officer call than takning care of his foward Marines.
What magazine pouch is that? Great videos man. Keep them coming.
The mag pouch in this video is a LBT Double mag pouch with the buckle. I don’t know if they’re sold anymore, I got a lot of my stuff off of eBay.
Do you follow civ div? Definitely brings some great conventional battlefield philosophy to the table following his stint in Ukraine.
I do not, I’ll check it out!
great video and kit! im new to gear and im looking to get a TAPS for myself and build it very similarly to yours, do you happen to remember what kind of pouches you have and where you got them, or maybe some recommendations?
Is there a pouch in specific you’re wondering about? In the video I tried to state what everything was
@@TheGruntPerspective my bad, you listed everything! thanks for the vid
Thank you very impressive....one ? Flashlight or pen light beside your headlamp and why don't u switch out two canteen for a 3 liter camel back lighter gear
Hydro pouches fail and get nasty. Canteens are grunt proof and easy to clean. I also prefer canteens because it's easier to gauge how much water is left, I always run out early with a CB lol.
20:48 how is the IFAK attached?
I have some malice clips kinda dangling from the taps that hook into the back of the pouch
You should also put your iMac in a fanny pack as that will allow to wear it separately so if you don’t have your fighting gear on, you can still have your IFAK with you all times
I personally like having everything on one piece of gear if it’s possible
Is the Marine Corps amphibious anymore? When I was in we waterproofed and dummy corded everything.
Love your videos. Question, and this may be a dumb question, but how did you mount your ifak to the chest rig? Thanks for your response in advance.
If you take a look at my taps kit upgrades video, I explain it there! But in short it’s just malice clips attached to the webbing on the pouch and on the chest rig
I see all these fellow civilians running around with high speed chest rigs, as if they are conducting a stand alone mission or something. The British LBEs that allow for 12 mags plus multiple sustainment packs and allow you to hold the weight on your hips just make so much more sense to me. Not as cool, but way more options. You can always throw a chest rig/armor on top of it.
hey man, great video! what model of chest rig is this? cause i feel like its one of the few that allows to carry canteens that easely! thx!
This is a surplus us army taps kit, they come in multi cam or coyote! Thanks for watching!
@@TheGruntPerspective tank you for your answer! I'll try to find one!
What is the name of the battery storage kit you got from amazon? I need one and can't find that on the site. Thanks.
Very nice video bro
Watching this video and have no idea what you are even loading. Is that a loadout vest or a belt???
This is a vest
@@TheGruntPerspective I was confused til the end. Great video. Thank you!
When you ran the assault pouch up front, could you still fit your other pouches on the taps? It’s a good bit bigger.
Yeah it’s actually the same size
Dang I’m still trying to figure out how you fit all that on there lol. I don’t have enough MOLLE
@@Joltin_Navi the only thing I did special is mounting the canteen pouches on 2 columns instead of 3
@@TheGruntPerspective I gotcha , thanks man
I'm a fat, old 11H guy from the LC2 generation. I appreciate the intent, and you obviously have the experience to be an authority, but I would think having all that weight and gear on only the front half of your body, would be exhausting and cumbersome. I get the idea of having frequently used items in the front, but I don't really understand the utility of not using the entire waist area (front and back) to distribute the load. I see modern versions of LC2 stuff that would do a great job distributing the load, and spread it to shoulders and waist, and allow the carrying of some minor sustainment gear. Is the intent of this, in your opinion, to facilitate vehicle operations, or is is presumed that an assault pack or something like that will be used too?
@@wretchedmess understandable, the main reason I didn’t use a belt here is to not interfere with my rucksack hip belt
@@TheGruntPerspective Got it, thanks. Also, just watched your Infantry belt setup videos which answered questions, and is more my speed. Didn't know the newer ruck hip belt interfered so much. For all it's faults, the ALICE pack worked decently in that respect. Thx for the content.
What company made this Rhodesian?
Maybe covered in a comment response but no way to search the 239 comments (as of writing) made. I am not in military. It appears you have all the basics covered except food. Since this is a SOL setup, it seems like that should be included. Is there a reason you don't carry something like a protein power bar or even protein power powder in your TAPS? Those would seem light weight and that you would need fuel for your body to sustain. You could obviously forage but that takes time and, in some areas, might have limited availability. Love to hear your thoughts.
Shouldn't a 100oz hydradation backpack system be more adapted than two big bottles on each sides ?
They leak and pop often unfortunately
How much does your TAPS setup weigh including the loaded magazines?
Probably close to 20 lbs
I just want to point out that he has regular old ziploc bags, not some fancy mylar, waterproof stuff.
Quick question, where can i find those LBT buckled mag pouches. I'm not finding any one my search, if you have extras or something lmk I'll buy it off you.
Hey man question. I'm with u about wearing belt with PC. If u don't wear it with taps do u just run ur side arm holster on normal belt? I Kno military always aren't issued side arms but I'm tryna force it just because plus I don't have sop. I run a pretty stuff belt normally so I could just run a holster on it. What's ur take?
No I don’t, the reason I dont wear I a belt is because most the time when I’m wearing this kit I’m doing pretty heavy patrolling. Most the time with pack and hip belt on so I can’t wear both. What I’ve done in the past is remove on of my mags and put my pistol inside a mag pouch.
What insert do you use for your mag slots? Looking to do the same for my TAPs.
Haley strategic MP2’s , they fit perfectly in the center 4 pouches with no additional retention required on them. If you try to put them in all 6 mag pouches though the 1st and 6th ones will kinda bind up though
Just realized, if fighting Terry has taught us anything, sometimes all you need is a rifle and a pocket full of ammo.
Still don't get how you guys carry everything on your chest. How are you able to stay low, crawl, climb through windows, go flat over walls, etc. without this getting in the way?
Do you have a link to the battery case from Amazon? I’ve been looking for a small one like that and can’t find a nice one like that.
www.madcityoutdoor.com/products/condor-battery-case
Looks like it’s not on Amazon anymore!
@@TheGruntPerspective Appreciate it🤝🏼
so uhhh...how do i find all that. especially that chest rig. where can i get that
Venture surplus!
What retention inserts do you use in your mag pouches on that chest rig and did you have to heat them up or modify?
For the center 4 I use Haley strategic MP2’s then esstac kywis for the 1st and 6th work well
Why two different inserts
@@TheGruntPerspective what's the difference in the two
@@hardtrooth1776 the 1st and 6th mag pouch kinda get pinched when it wraps around your body, the esstacs are a bit smaller so it’s not a problem
@@TheGruntPerspective I get it thanks for that info and reply your channel is now my favorite with gear knowledge or battle rattle lol. there's another channel that I like but it's more survival and field craft and its called Ranger survival and field craft, its great, have you seen it?
What inserts are you using for mag retention?
Haley strategic mp2’s
@@TheGruntPerspective thanks!
I gave them a look and thought hey maybe the mp2s are better than the kywi inserts I bought from SKD a few years ago. The kywi inserts have loop material on them that helps retain the insert in the mag pouch. With the loop on the kywis they would occasionally slide out with the mag, I lost one but Ive added some loop material inside the mag pouch for even better insert retention
@@99cobra2881 if you watch my taps kit upgrade video I talked about how the mp2’s work great with no Velcro or any form of retention on the insert!
@@TheGruntPerspective
Never underestimate my ability to miss a key detail of the video
Thanks for the info Ill have to rewatch
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do they make a TAPS kit with 7.62 mag pouches? haven't been able to find one
If you’re using 7.62 x 39 then this will work. 7.62x51 will not. I don’t believe there is any other variants in military issue though
I ran 20 round pmags in the taps, They fit tight don’t worry about loosing them only could load four workable but with all the Molly you can add a few dedicated 7.62 x .51
Have you used canteens (GI) with water purification caps? Do they work, does freezing harm them?
Purification tabs work fine in canteens. Freezing doesn’t harm canteens as long as you don’t fill them all the way
@@TheGruntPerspective ya. Ive used tabs and other purification. I just got a new pair of the caps. Not tried them yet.. freezing is bad for sawyer minis n such. So was curious if caps were grunt proof.. thanks.
what brand is that dangler?
What brand is the mag pouch with the buckle? I can only find a mag pouch with the buckle as 2 pouches made together.
London Bridge Trading
What pouch is that dangler
I’m not completely sure to be honest, I got it in the base exchange. I think maybe BDS gear
Out of everything one can carry....water and ammo. Neither can be done without.
Absolutely
Your videos are good, covering the subjects well. Keep it up.
I think that in a future conventional war soft armour will be used instead of plates as it is lighter and provides protection from artillery fragmentation threats.
I’d rather carry an extra 20 pounds of water and ammo, then an extra 20 pounds of hard plates. It definitely depends on what you’re doing though, obviously in an urban environment hard plates are going to be worth it. In other environments like mountains or jungle..maybe not so much?
What inserts do u have for your magazines? I'm looking to set up a taps in the future
Haley strategic MP2 inserts!
Would you attach this TAPS to the plate carrier? Does that work well? (With adaptations)
I usually don’t do that no. But it could be done
Tactical cat's camo matches the kit
can the taps rig hold ak mags were the 5.56 mags are.
I’ve never tried it personally, but I believe so. The pouches are pretty oversized.
thank you so much for you insight, they do look large in size, I'm Australian we are unable to test these things thank you. i like your video on field jackets VS combat jackets. if i may say it seems misleading to call a combat uniform a combat uniform as they are much less durable .one would think to them self-hay it's got the word combat in it well then it must be good they could call it a fob uniform or even a garrison uniform. @@TheGruntPerspective
what H harness are you using?
It’s a mayflower harness off an old chest rig i don’t have anymore
Ah thanks, I'm looking forward to upgrading the TAPs chestrig that I have.@@TheGruntPerspective