Time Team S03-E04 A Wreck of the Spanish Armada (Teignmouth, Devon)
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- Over thirty years ago a teenage boy, scuba-diving off Teignmouth beach in Devon, found a bronze cannon on the seabed. He discovered that it was part of an ancient ship that was wrecked some 400 years ago. After all that time under water is there still enough of the ship left for Time Team to identify it? And where did it originally come from - could it in fact have been part of the Spanish Armada?
Tony Robinson and the team take to the sea for the first ever Time Team underwater excavation.
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That is quite the style Tony is rockin'. The hat, hair, sports coat with shoulder pads with shorts and print button down. Kind of a Rick Astley at the sea shore thing going on!
Weren't the mid 90s grand?
Seeing Mick in the UK wearing a Chief Standing Bear shirt who happens to be a distant relative of mine is pretty cool.
Phil, a “complete [underwater] novice” in this episode, got so into diving that he went on to become the president of the Nautical Archaeological Society!
What an awesome surprise to find even after 2 yrs of binging on TTeam. The younger years of the boys in shorts: Tony, our beloved Mick and Phil; and Tony's oh-so-cool look as if an English rendition of Bob Dylan. His bald spot gives him away. I so appreciate everyone. The beautiful Carenza- always present & advising, while looking lovely with her golden long hair & the sunhat really sets off her shoulders & face. Phil is so young & thin here compared to the larger body he develops over the 20 yrs. The strength of his muscles & those beers showing for it all...and then the ancient cannonball blast!!! such fun. THX
Tony was in his late 40s when this was filmed. Mid life crisis?
Phil has been my archeology crush forever.
My dad would have loved all this. Not only was he a huge fan of TT, he was an amateur geologist/archeologist. R.I.P Dad.
Chris Pascoe sorry for the loss of your Dad Chris
I've become addicted to T T..just as well there are loads of episodes :-)
Tony is so good a describing things.
Bring back the Time Team series
Yezzzzz
This show has brought me so much enjoyment! Especially during 2020...thank you for posting these videos! 🤗
40:00 - Robin without his bow tie. Rare footage indeed!
TT is my favorite show EVER. Thanks to Reijer for uploading!
Jim Dille -- he's still too cool for sandals though.
What about Victor's little swim trunks?
LOL @ Tony's jackets and hats a la 90's style with big shoulder pads. Awesome.
Poor Pooped Phil !! I thought he was faking and would yell 'kidding' , but no such luck . He's a real trooper !!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! Phil's first dive! 👏👍😎
Poor sweet Phil got a bit green at the gills.
Mick's t-shirt on day one 👌🏼
Love Time Team, such a sheer pleasure to watch.
magnificent to see the blokes firing a canon. Fun they had!!
That outfit at the airport 😂 that poor Chris looked exhausted coming off that plane
Don't worry about him. He's paid for by you the tax payer!
@@egverlander not my taxes, I'm not in the UK. Edit: but good to know, I don't feel sorry anymore 😂
Omgg Tony's fashion in this is so cute.
Did anyone else spot the doll at 25:05 that is wearing a copy of Nick's famous sweater? I'd love to have one. Great guy & a great show!
You'll see that (and other) doll(s) on a lot of shows. Fans made them, as well as some of Mick's stripey gear he wears.
Love watching TT. I like Phil
Interesting to see that a see-going nation like Great Britain needed to hire a Dutch (possibly Frisian) vessel; the "Terschelling" as a work-boat. Lovely ship. I know her well.
Because all their other ships were busy?? And certainly they couldn't call in the Canadian rowboat X'D
Corvus Rabiatus I sailed for many, many years as a Merchant Mariner, and I can tell you it is very common that a boat's flag (which just means whomever owns it has an office in that county, and multi-national companies pick whichever country's tax laws suit them best), the crew's nationality, and the region they primarily work don't align at all.
One of the most common examples I've seen is a Panamanian-flagged ship, crewed by Filipinos, moving goods between the US Pacific coast (where I primarily worked) and China or Japan.
Britain was not really a sea-going nation before Drake. it was Sir Francis who turned a ragtag assortment of fishing boats into a national defence and laid the foundation for the Royal Navy which would later rule most of the globe.
Dutch are amazing engineers
I don’t know if anyone will see this I was laying here thinking as I watched, even if that ships sunk at night time and everyone died don’t you think at some point somebody’s might’ve floated ashore, and couldn’t there have been loved ones back in the country of origin, wondering why their loved ones never came back, and would’ve inquired after the ship or maybe the merchant had more than one ship and he would’ve wondered what happened to one of them maybe there is historical reference to it and it’s country of origin which you know the cannons were made in Florence, so possibly there would be a record over there of those cannons being made for a specific ship. I don’t know maybe I’m over thinking this but you guys have managed to uncover a lot of unusual historical evidence in records and archives and museums and so it would seem like something you could pursue. If this was 10 years ago you may have already found the answers by now.
My mistake it was Venice not Florence. Are there any shows about maybe you revisiting this site later like closer to the 2000s
42:28 Phil is an incredible person.
Every time I see this episode I get pissed off at that archeologist.
I mean, I'm sure this fairly popular TV crew didn't visit out of the blue and say "we want to help you with your site". It was planned probably months ahead of time and this guy, knowing that nobody could do anything without him, scheduled a holiday just as they were visiting. A whole day and a half wasted when they could have had the site prepped before the Time Team even got there! >:(
Mustn't be an holiday - but he could come from his day job archologic site. And to take a break of it for time team could have costed him valued time there.
Wow!!!Tony you look awesome in that hat.
Thanks for uploading!
Thanks for posting
I don't know if he already was in this episode, or is he got the position later on, but Phil has been head of the British underwater archaeology society (or something along those lines) for years.
Last I heard, Phil Harding was head of maritime archaeology, so its funny watching this.
HAHAHAHAHa Tony looks like Phil Collins smaller brother...Like A Phil Collins "Mini me"...
And now performing one of his earlier hits, it's Gordon Lightfoot with "A Wreck of the Spanish Armada". BTW Great episode.
17:00 Phil’s hair combed!! Amazing.
the wind was down
I miss Mick, he really was the best and my favourite.
I wonder how many artifacts were lost by not screening the sucked sand before redepositing.
Diving at sunset/dusk?
Where I live that is shark dinner time.
And they look like seals in that get-up.
Interesting mix of experts for this dig. It's nice to see Beric doing his magic with buildings, the typically brilliant Stewart with his maps, Robin's document searches, and then they added underwater archaeology. I am sure TT knew that Site Director would be out of town - possibly booked his trip months in advance - they knew they needed a day for geophysics anyway. But the poor man looked awfully jet-lagged. And yes, every time I watch this I can hear Phil sounding impaired by his breathing apparatus
Just about here:
N 50° 33' 1.44'' x W 3° 29' 10.788''
50.550400, -3.486330
It's about time I thanked you for posting all these co-ordinates. You've saved me loads of time over the last few weeks.
You're quite welcome.
I think it really enhances the watching experience to have context for the various sites.
About half way through them all I discovered there was an incomplete list on Wikipedia and used some of those. But then also added the ones that were missing.
I've always been afraid that after all that work they'll get removed by a copyright claimant.
How can map co-ordinates be copyrighted?
Anything can be copyrighted but some things aren't worth the effort.
But to protect their data map makers always include what are called 'bunnies' which are intentionally incorrect things.
An odd shape in a coast line, a street where none exists, an intentionally misspelled name, etc.
I make a Haight Ashbury Star Map and twice have used my bunnies to prevent others from stealing and producing their own version.
They do a nice Sunday roast in the 'Jolly Sailor'.
Sounds good, I'm hungry.
Tony's funnest attempt to look about 29 of all the shows. At the time he was roughly 50, didn't work.
And thus ended the Venetian Invasion of 1589.
I absolutely love this I’m being taken on adventures I do yes very much thank you very much I’m gonna sit here and popcorn and me thank you in the cat meow🐈
Let's face it... sometimes the geophys doesn't show anything on land either. So Phil would say..."Dig a trench."
25:10 a Mick doll!
I can not believe that they didn't screen the spoil from the lifting pumps..I mean..I can Not believe it....
I was thinking about that too at first. But everything was buried under loose sand. So unlike with archeaology on land, small things will have been washed away a long time ago. Only large or smaller very heavy objects would have remained, like large parts of wood and cannon.
What are any of them wearing? They look like they've been told to dress for a Mediterranean holiday. I guess that was the 90s, I have some equally garish attire hidden away in my wardrobe somewhere
Breech-loaded gun, with a removable charge cartridge. Only thing they didn't have was a primer.
Skinny Phil!
lol, Victor in a Speedo at 11:56
be still my heart lol
Something doesn't quite add up. If a ship that size sunk in only 10 ft. of water, even lying on her side surely SOMETHING would be sticking above the water! Not to mention that some things would have washed ashore, alerting the locals to the fact that something had wrecked nearby.
+christosvoskresye I'm an underwater archaeologist and there is every possibility that most of a vessel, even this size, wouldn't stick up above the water, which is a surf zone in this area. It's such a dynamic environment, when the vessel foundered - if it did happen in a storm - just the wrecking process itself could - and probably did - break it up to the point of much of the port side washed away. Sometimes these large parts of wrecks to stay intact and float around or they they to make it to shore (buoyant hull structure), or they just get broken up and eventually sink at great distances from the original wreck site. Plus, in this dynamic environment, sands shift quickly and bury (and unbury) the site quickly. We have one wreck we do assessments on every year to record ice damage to her and often she's buried in a meter of sand or she's completely exposed, depending on the weather and environmental conditions. Often we just feel her with our feet if she's not too deeply buried in a given year. But, I'm the locals - and many people on the shoreline for miles depending on currents/tides, etc., found tons of buoyant artifacts that floated ashore after the sinking - that wouldn't mean they would know where the bulk of the wreck was or that they could find the cannon and have the ability to raise them - especially if they were immediately covered in sand their own weight would have helped facilitate that action. Anyway, just my two cents from my 26 years of archaeological experience, 24 of them underwater.
Ann MN
OK, I'll defer to an expert. I can understand a ship being broken apart, but that would make a bunch of smaller bits, and I would have thought at least some of those would wash ashore.... I can't assume much about the honesty of the people along the coast, but then if they had known about the wreck and merely said nothing, they still would have gone out and salvaged the cannons.... It's still strange, but I'll take your word for it.
Ann MN
The only thing I'll add is that Tony should have asked my question, so that someone would explain just how quickly a ship can be broken apart and how completely it can be hidden.
+christosvoskresye Well, the nautical archaeologist very well may have but it was edited for time. Only a fraction of what these folks records is put into each show. And, that wasn't their focus and not the focus of the director or editor - they were more concerned with identification, not the correct wrecking process.
+christosvoskresye Just one more comment - I'm positive bits floated to shore- and and not necessarily into this particular town - but some distance away - but remember that if it was a storm, they might not even have seen the vessel out there still floating in the first place. Visibility would have been zero. Would they have even seen cannon on any ship out there with zero visibility? And, stuff washing ashore 400-500 years ago would have been collected up, but who would have written about it? I suspect the majority of the population was illiterate. The ability to raise/drag tons of metal from a surf zone isn't easy, either, especially 400-500 years ago - and they couldn't have dredged them out if they did know where they were. It's hard for these types of TV shows to discuss all the ramifications of these sites, especially the underwater sites. It's not their forte. So, not strange to me nor my husband, also an underwater archaeologist. ;-)
That kid at 27:54 LOL
Tony in that hat@13:17 makes him look like that guy in The Flying Pickets
It couldn't possibly have been an Armada ship because Devon is right at the Western entrance to the English Channel, and no Spanish ships were lost until they were nearly half way through the Channel. No expert would ever have entertained the idea that the wreck could have been from the Armada.
The Armada finally anchored off the coast of Calais, and were defeated and scattered in the Battle of Gravelines. Note that they were famously destroyed by the British weather only after they had abandoned all hope of invasion. Worst of all, the British fleet, although almost out of ammunition, played a game of bluff, and prevented them from returning to Spain via the Channel. This forced the Armada to loop all the way around Britain, while desperately short of supplies, with their surviving ships increasingly filled with sick and exhausted men. Now came the British weather . . ..
+Michael Forrest Yeah...but you know, TH-cam viewers are experts on all things.
+Neville Macaulife Many of the Armada ships were lost off of Devon and Cornwall. Pascoe is a Cornish name derived from Spanish apparently.
Thanks for your input Chris Pascoe, but I can only find one map showing the location of Armada wrecks. (Google: “Spanish armada wrecks map.”) It shows 14 wrecks North & West of Ireland, and 1 North of Scotland. Nothing is shown for the Channel, even where the locations of “Fights” are indicated. Do you have other information? I’m wondering if local tourist boards sometimes make fanciful claims anytime an old wreck is found anywhere near them.
Neville Macaulife This isn't the Mary Rose it it? I thought I heard of them finding it but is was NOT this one, right?
They Spanish had an armada or fleet for well they still have and any Spanish shipwrecked of the British coast or any other coast would be a ship of the Spanish armada. you make it seem like they build a fleet once and then never again. The Dutch sank many a Spanish (and British) ''armadas'' and those battles took place all over the oceans and for hundreds of years.
I think Sue said a bad word during the cannon shoot
Robin's comment that it must have gone down at night with all hands as the cannons were left: Wouldn't debris, flotsam and jetsam shown up on the wreck in the morning? With the ship so close to shoe, even bodies might have come ashore - wouldn't that have been indicative of a recent shipwreck? What of masts possibly protruding from the shore in water so shallow, described as the wreck site being able to be stood on at low tide? Just curious.
They probably got very often wreakage and dead people after a big storm at these timesoul. Also depends on the direction of the flow. Could easely all gone in the direction of the open sea.
Phil at 38:15…😎
I don't think Chris wanted to come back from Libya... Didn't seem to want to be there.
It seems to me that no one in GB can move without permission from the government. Some free country, eh?
Unfortunate they couldn't pick a weekend when he was home.
Becks Bier at 33:04 and Captain Morgan at 30:22
DAMN Baldrick!!! ABSOLUTELY gorgeous..😍 .... MARRY ME PLEASE 💑💞😘🤗🙏😁💋💋💋😛🥰😉😛🙆♀️
@3:42....i think Carenza and the Surveyor are SO into one another. Sexy Time Team Action. Lol!!
I noticed that too ! Lol
That's probably why he couldn't find anything with his high tech tools.
He was a bit distracted while trying to do his work.
Poor Phil.
Stuart is one of my favorites, Ofcourse I love watching them all, except Carenza. She just states info others give her. Helen is so much better to listen to, not bossy or self important.
These guys are using horse collar BC’s (except for Tony)?!! How old is this show?!
cool indeed
What the hell is Tony wearing?
3:20 that geophysicist is clearly impressed by Carenza's science assets.
Note how his gaze wanders downwards frequently.
who is that cool sub culture narrator with the cool glasses and groovy hat is that some sort of hipster they found laying around
Barry McCall Tony Robinson. You can look him up in wikipedia. Very wonderful actor. He used to work with Rowan Atkinson and Hugh Laurie (Dr. House).
i know who it was i was just poking a little fun
>_
First aired January 28, 1996.
Tony likes to control what happens, you can sense the tension between him and the others at times..
How close did the Armada get?
Silver Serfer sailors washed up on the southeastern shore of Ireland
Did anyone notice a life jacket anywhere, especially skipping along in small rafts, etc.? First thing I noticed.
Safety in the 90s.
27:53 oh shit.
12:28. If I saw those 2 waiting for me at the airport, I would have gone back and sat on the plane.
I thought all cannons from that era were muzzle-loaders.
very early cannon were either cast muzzle loaders or stave and hoop construction breach loaders, the breach loaders had a bad habit of blowing the powder jugs out of the frame harming the gun crew, unlike casting using stave and hoop construction the hard part is blocking the end of the tube so commonly used as breach loading. as the casting got better the stave and hoop construction died out just leaving the muzzle loaders for several hundred years until breach loading re appeared around the mid 1800s
How did Tony’s hat not fly off, can we solve the mystery...
Hairspray
Okay, you have to assume that the people in charge of the site were aware that Time Team was coming at least a month ahead of time. So the *one* guy who can grant them access to the site decided to go on vacation on the weekend they were shooting!?! The guy either isn't a fan or just a selfish prick.
Was he on vacation, or working at another dig site?
I don't think they ever said he was on vacation. It's more likely he was digging abroad.
I must admit, I often dig a broad.
Gosh-Mick i6 shorts & sa6dals!
Anybody know who the Native American is on micks shirt. Rad
my grandmother's curtain
Is the test canon aimed at France?
It aught to be
38:20 oo er
The site director doesn't look all that excited. English reserve maybe.
Wasn't the Armada wrecked on the coast of France? How would wreckage end up in English waters?
Christian Patriot the Armada was caught by storms in the Channel. Ships were knocked all over the Channel; from the Netherlands to Ireland
The ships of the Armada in 1588 scattered far and wide after the battles, some even rounding the northern tip of the British Isles and making landfall in Ireland. There are descendants of those sailors today in Ireland.
27:50 46:08 😍😍😍😍😍😍
The boat crew seems mystified as to what the hell the Time Team is there for. Tony does a good job of trying to whip up excitement over NOTHING.
Why is this TT episode still called "A wreck of the Spanish Armada"?! When it turned out to be a Venetian trading verses? 🤔
Dam the government doesn't want history known!
There is a big difference between land and water archaeology. With the marine variety you don't get some moaning Brummy bleeder saying he can't find anything, or how difficult everything is! Although it does become apparent that the marine geophysicist is just as good with the excuses as his land based brother.
The Dutch sailed with the Spanish Armada
No they did not! The Dutch just put up their republic and fought 80 years for independence from Spain. In matter of fact, most the fleet that fought the Spanish Armada was Dutch. Only a handful of English ships were present and were used as the fire ships.
Phil Harding is the only reason to watch time team, he is "real". Unlike the muppet that presents the show
So they lost a full day of archaeology because the supervisor wasn't there? How disappointing since underwater archaeology is very time consuming.
Way too many sandals on parade in this episode; crusty old feet aren't pleasant viewing...
What does the champagne socialist look like😂
Did noone teach them not to speak with their mouths full urgh
sceptical about it being a dutch merchanship, while they are standing on a ship named Terschelling, which is a dutch island