After working at both a soft touch and touchless I prefer the touchless. With the soft touch we had to deal with alot of upset customers due to vehicles getting scratched or damaged. The touchless we didnt have to many complaints, just have to make sure you are putting out good products and a strong pre soak. The touchless works much better with heavy mud as well. The only time I will use a soft touch is if its a tunnel wash with employees that pressure wash off the vehicle before it enters.
I have never once been happy with the results of a touchless wash. Touch is the way to go if you actually want it clean. But definitely does scratch. I had a brand new vehicle, and we had a brand new touch tunnel built..took car through 3 different times and there were definitely scratches all over.
Here is what you need to understand about a touchless wash. You need three things to properly wash any car, water (for obvious reasons), friction (to loosen/remove the dirt) and chemicals ( to dissolve and dislodge the grim/dirt). If you have any one of the above three missing, you will need more of the other two. So in a touchless wash you have no Friction therefore you need harsher chemicals to dislodge and remove the grim/dirt. This is terrible on the paints finish and will erode clear coat finishes over time in addition to dulling the paint. You car will also not be as clean as despite the use of harsher chemicals (very harsh), without the agitation of the soft cloths to dislodge the grim, it tends to remain on the car. Hope this helps.
It is hard to compare gas station car washes to an owner operator car wash. Gas station car washes usually do not maintain their car wash, where as an owner/operator is there always looking after their wash. It is interesting hearing your thoughts and comments on various washes. Keep up the great car wash content
I just left one that didn't have brushes. It had long thick strips of a terry cloth type of material. Car is spotless and super shiny. Touchless only removes dry dust/pollen on the surface IMO. When you dry with a towel, all the dirt shows on the cloth.
Soft touch is generally pretty safe and usually does a better job. It may sound rough but the brushes are typically made out of a special material that don’t damage or scratch anything. It only becomes a problem when the brushes get worn out and dirty, which is a testament to the owner and not the car wash itself.
@@slimjimjimslim5923 it’s easier than you might think. It doesn’t take much to see which car wash has their brushes well maintained. Worn out brushes will usually have black spots on them and sometimes broken off bristles. Properly maintained brushes keep their original color and don’t leave streaks when washing.
@@slimjimjimslim5923 you don’t have to do anything like that. But, if you plan on using a soft touch car wash at a gas station, just get a good look at the brushes before using it. If the color on the brushes look bright and shiny, then you know it will be safe and effective. However, if they look faded and have black spots, then try somewhere else. For what it’s worth, although usually more expensive than other gas stations, I find that 7-Eleven does a good job at maintaining their car washes if you’re still worried about gas station owners not caring enough.
In Germany, almost every gas station has a touch car wash included. In some areas you find self-service car washes, they're getting more popular because you get everything for a lower price. Sure, self service is more work, because you have to wash your car yourself, but that's okay.
Best car wash I found is touch free. With a person spray washing in the beginning. Then enter touch-less tunnel. Exit with a hand dry. Three employees with excellent results.
I prefer the touch car washes because they do a better job cleaning and never had issues with any scratches since the one I go to has soft cloth brushes
I've even been to the brush car washes that basically just rub the cloth across the cars. Still scares me. I would pick toughness for sure. Excited for more content!
Sorry, just your average annoying carwash enthusiast. 😂 You rarely have to worry about the cloths giving you scratches. They are usually made of high quality soft material carefully chosen to avoid scratches. Aslong as the car soaks you down with soap before scrubbing, you shouldn’t get any scratches. The only time you might get a scratch is when the wash is made cheaply, the wash isnt maintained or if you have any large vehical accessories. (There are usually warning sign outside the wash to tell you about banned accessories) So next time going through a carwash, don’t worry!
@@Leoleony123 I will agree that the newer foam brush is better, but when I was recording a wash it bent the wiper all up into an odd form, and the wash just got renovated last year. I also have had bad experiences before also..
@@DylBuilder1 Ouch, that cant be good. Some car models do have a bit of incompatibility with soft touch washes. This was most likely the owner of the washes fault for not specifying the incompatibility.
Soft touch washes are safer than what many people think as the material is made of foam that is pretty much state of the art. If I owned a car wash I would stick to having a touchless wash since they have less moving parts than a soft touch for an in bay automatic. The systems you went through a a Mark Vii AquaJet XT and a Ryko Softgloss Maxx 5
Touch free wash. No damage to cars..or trucks..its good if your car is vary clean..to start out.. I like self service washes..if it's clean..and hogs hair brushes are clean.. ok we use blendco chems at our self service wash...I think there tops in value..for our customers.. I give them the foaming soap vary heavily..it cost vary little to give a bit more..out of the foaming brush..yellow is best no staining hands..we have a osasi xp.wash touch free unit..as well. Works great. Again heavy pre- soak... bug remover helps to remove road film..
I’ll never use a auto car wash with brushes as I hate swirl marks. On the same note I’ll never use a diy car wash that only has nylon brooms and the ones with the soft brooms I always blast with the soap spray nozzle before I’ll put it near my car but even then I’ll only use them lightly lol
As a owner of a full service car wash, we offer many options to our customers. We have six self service bays, a 90ft express wash tunnel, and onsite detailing. Regarding the express tunnel, we use the highest quality equipment (Sonnys) and chemicals in the business. This equipment will not cause scratches to the clear coat in most cases unless the vehicle is covered in mud. In those situations we advise our customers to spray them off in our self serve before using the tunnel. Regarding detailing, we suggest that customers have their cars fully detailed each quarter. Hope that this helps. 😀
I am a carwash distributer in your area for both Belanger and Pdq, There is a lot of assumption even in the replies on this page about which is better and will this clean or will this scratch. The easiest answer is that it comes down to the owner/ operator. I can get a touchless car wash to clean but the operator needs to keep it that way. Most of the complaints about a touchless not cleaning are due to operators not understanding the chemistry or not wanting to pay what it costs to get there. The easiest place for operators to help their bottom line is in the chemical cost as electricity, water and sewer are somewhat fixed. Many operators will thin out the chemical to the point where it doesn't work and then their car counts start to drop as well. You end up choosing a point that is good enough as a trade off for one car in the bay for twice as long or twice the cost of chemical or is a 90% clean acceptable. In cloth washes most of the In Bay Automatics use soft neoprene almost like a wet suit and the issue with scratching is two things, one what was on the vehicle before you that is now on the cloth or how long since it was cleaned and are they using the correct soap, again cutting corners on the soap causes problems. I believe that in one of your other videos you showed your entry unit and it may have been a wash select 2 or a portal, the wash select 2 is toward the end of its life cycle and the portal has replaced it as Unitec's stand alone entry unit. The c-start you were looking at at both of the locations in this video are a stripped down model similar to the portal for gas stations or anywhere that doesn't want or require the extra features of a portal, Both are made by Unitec so it is very similar to what you have. In the world or in bay automatics traditionally the big three have been ryko, mark 7 and Pdq. feel free to message me if you have any questions.
In scadinavia with our winters the cars get really dirty the touchless wash wont get the car clean, it looks clean at first but then if you drag your hand on the car its like a dirt film , I wash mostly by hand but if stressed automatic with brushes.
Touchless car washes are for cars that have waxes and sealants on both the paint and wheels. Dirt and brake dust comes right off. Touch car washes are for those who just want a simple wash that does it all - but at risk for eventual clear coat failure.
You can utilize these washes to very effectively clean your vehicle, but what I have learned is you better be ready to do a lot of the drying and actual detailing yourself lol. I always bring a bunch of microfiber towels with me
When's a Touchless Car Wash owner in Massachusetts it actually has a TH-cam video demonstrating the importance of towel drying after going through the touchless wash. He does have dryers installs but still recommends towels drying.
@@robertknight4672 Oh yeah absolutely. I usually bring 10-12 with me each time to be safe. Not only is there still water on the car after each wash which makes it look subpar, but you really should make sure all those chemicals etc. get cleaned off as they can be very acidic and damaging to the paint.
Touchless all the time... The Hurricane you hear with the brushes is your paint getting scratched and your clearcoat getting damaged. (with tiny particles of sand acting like sandpaper) Buuut touchless requires a couple of things: Proper presoak foam (a thick layer) very high pressure rinse... Tryfoam (LOTS OF IT) Wax/Clearcoat protection etc... This touchless in the video had very little foam soo it couldnt wash the Pick-up very well. Ultimate Truck is an overstatement... Since a Ultimate truck is a Peterbilt Truck with atleast 18 wheels. Ye have a nice Pick-up buut it aint a truck.
I'd like to see a video of a close up comparison of new "whapers" vs. old ones to see how much abrasive material has latched onto the strands of "whaper" material.
Chris, thanks for the informative video..Not a chance I'd let those strips of cloth beat against the skin of my C8. I wish there was a good touchless car wash in my town. Not much fun washing my cars in the winter!
I prefer the brush washer for the car I drive coz it’s not a new fancy car. If I had some new Mercedes or sth, I’d prefer touchless one. Though, we have some much much better brush washers in Europe. Ones that have special brushes for the wheels and can really make the car nice and clean. You also mentioned that you felt rubber smell… rubber brushes are not the best. There are much better and more gentle yet effective material brushes… almost like some microfiber or sth. In Holland I had my van washed by very good machine for only 4 euros. It’s a shame I didn’t check the machine’s brand. Would love to share that brand with you otherwise.
usually the touch carwashes get the hard to reach places the touchless doesn't get for example the pdq tandem systems or the pdq tandem surfline and other touch carwashes good for bug busting but if u want a wash and the dirt comes completely off with no hard to get off spots then touchless if the touchless doesn't do the job then go with the touch there r many different companies that do touch washes with a brush oasis ryko mark 7 belanger PDQ D and S autec washworld they also have touchless washes available plus tunnel washes provide all of them touch and touchless
Since one with the rolling brushes ripped off my antenna I’ll be doing touchless when I’m not going to a place that hand washes. The only automated one I’d use is brushless. Even microfiber strips can get dirty between washes and snap dirt on your car that’s where the swirls are from
well i will never pay that kind of touchless cause its really expensive for that work and definitely i will never choose brushes for the car..so the conclusion is until the touchless tech became better we will stay at the traditional way . gj m8 and nice video like always
The brushes are usually made of high quality material that will not give the vehicle scratches. Although, if the wash is not maintained or cheaply made, it could very well give scratches. The soap on some automatic carwashes can also be harsh if cheap chemicals are used. I perfer goong to a trusted wash or going to a self serve so you can do it yourself. So, not all washes give scratches, but some could.
I don’t think this video was entirely accurate, both washes were bad examples of both types of automatic washes. The Mark VII touchless didn’t have correct chemistry to remove the bird crap and other dirt, the Ryko was VERY bad, you can see the top brush missing almost all of its foam on the left side, and those rear brushes’ pressure was set way too high, with lower pressure it would’ve been much more gentle on the car. With the right example of both this video could’ve been a lot better. I’m tired of people saying the soft touch machines scratch, unless they are a very specific kind of brush, they don’t. The one in this video is kind of the worst of both worlds. Brush pressure set too high with bad brush material. Good soft touch washes use closed cell foam. It’s a foam that is very dense and cannot absorb water or dirt, making it very safe on the car. The brush type in this video is called Foambrite. It’s Ryko specific, and it’s pretty bad. It’s much more dense than regular foam and doesn’t repel dirt as easily, which is why you see a lot of dirty Ryko brushes. On top of that it doesn’t break as easily, making it easier to damage cars. Regular foam will snap off if it gets caught on something making it very safe for cars. The other type is soft cloth, which is as you would expect, cloth. It absorbs water and dirt too, making it sandpaper after a few muddy cars go though. This brush type is commonly found at tunnel car washes. Always look for non tunnel non Ryko soft touch washes for the best experience. Like I said, bad examples of both types. Please try this again at a professional car wash instead of gas stations, it makes the entire automatic car wash industry look bad when it’s just crappy managers that don’t care about the car wash.
Soft Touch. If you want bugs to be removed I’d do soft touch. Mark 7 makes a bay system that you can choose between soft touch and touch free. Touchless have a hard time with bugs and more stubborn stuff
It is extremely rare for a soft touch to scratch. Filament was thought to scratch if it got worn out, though that would only happen if it was also dry, otherwise, it would leave deposits that look like scratches. Foam brushes, like what's used on modern car washes, like the SoftGloss Maxx 5 brush, resists dirt and debris, cannot scratch unless somebody literally ties an object in the brushes, which is unlikely. Cloth brushes however, oh my. A GIGANTIC fail. If you don't clean them, they get plaque, you need to bleach them one by one, yuck. And it loves to pick up debris.
Where are you located to be able to get $8 car washes? Every place around me is at minimum of $15 for a basic wash all the way up to $30 for a "platinum" wash.
Speak to Mark VII for your automatic equipment, they are the world leader is automatic wash technology , they also have an excellent chemical supply decision.
17:16 don't really know much about CA washes but, if there are sensors that control the brush travel path, I wonder if there is a sensor adjustment (angle) that will help it better follow the vehicle contour by the rear window. Curious. I like the brush type but, have an older truck with flawed paint.
A touch wash is always better than a touchless a touchless cant get all the traffic film and stuck on dirt off but touch washed tend to cause scratches by rocks and debree stuck in the Brushes
Have you thought about hiring an attendant to do handwashes? You already have the bays and hiring one person and charging $15 per wash seems like a no brainer and you are giving a superior service to any automated car wash.
This is why those that care about their car or truck go to a self serve car wash, do it themselves by hand at home, or have it done by hand by a professional. Tunnels suck!
So basically: "The touch wash didn't scratch anything OR damage anything and did a far better job cleaning at a SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper price. And basically everything I can make up to say bad DIDN'T happen and actually did everything better. Buuuuuuut... uhm... OH! OH OH OH! IT MAKES NOISE! AND I DON'T LIKE THAT AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU! ... plus, I own a touchless, and therefore of course I'm going to say it's better. Oh yeah. I'd DEFINITELY recommend spending more money to get your car less clean."
I have been in the business for 18 years now, started detailing and now own 5 locations offering automated, hand wash and self serve. Every system is flawed, contactless are just not good enough for very dirty cars, I don't own one myself, but do have a contact automated wash. Contact washes do put tiny scratches in your clear coat, but a good polish every year will take care of these. All said though, even your self serve bays will scratch paint. The brushes will pick up grit from the floor and dirty cars and will put tiny scratches in your clearcoat. If I was to use a self serve wash, I would take my own sponge or mitt and always avoid the brush.
A "soft touch" carwash is good IF ONLY it's been maintained well. 99% of these are NOT. They contain grime inside the brushes. Those will create swirls and scratches. What does this mean? Expect 100% of these gas station washes to leave your car with scratches. And 90% of those dedicated "fast car wash" washes.
i'm looking in to purchasing a car wash and turn it into a touchless. youtube petit car wash, its the best ive seen and people seem to love it. what do you think?
After working at both a soft touch and touchless I prefer the touchless. With the soft touch we had to deal with alot of upset customers due to vehicles getting scratched or damaged. The touchless we didnt have to many complaints, just have to make sure you are putting out good products and a strong pre soak. The touchless works much better with heavy mud as well. The only time I will use a soft touch is if its a tunnel wash with employees that pressure wash off the vehicle before it enters.
Agreed 👌🏻
I have never once been happy with the results of a touchless wash. Touch is the way to go if you actually want it clean. But definitely does scratch. I had a brand new vehicle, and we had a brand new touch tunnel built..took car through 3 different times and there were definitely scratches all over.
Here is what you need to understand about a touchless wash. You need three things to properly wash any car, water (for obvious reasons), friction (to loosen/remove the dirt) and chemicals ( to dissolve and dislodge the grim/dirt).
If you have any one of the above three missing, you will need more of the other two. So in a touchless wash you have no Friction therefore you need harsher chemicals to dislodge and remove the grim/dirt. This is terrible on the paints finish and will erode clear coat finishes over time in addition to dulling the paint. You car will also not be as clean as despite the use of harsher chemicals (very harsh), without the agitation of the soft cloths to dislodge the grim, it tends to remain on the car.
Hope this helps.
It is hard to compare gas station car washes to an owner operator car wash. Gas station car washes usually do not maintain their car wash, where as an owner/operator is there always looking after their wash. It is interesting hearing your thoughts and comments on various washes. Keep up the great car wash content
Very true and good point. Thanks
I think that soft touch washes are good for caked on bugs, bird droppings and tree sap, while touch free washes are good for dirt, dust, mud and salt.
Agreed
Yes. If I am caked with bugs I do soft touch. I also keep bug wash in my SUV and pre soak it on my car.
@@CarWashChronicles depends if you use a good presoak chemical touchless is better i think
I checked out many touchless systems and believe laser wash series are the best!
I just left one that didn't have brushes. It had long thick strips of a terry cloth type of material. Car is spotless and super shiny. Touchless only removes dry dust/pollen on the surface IMO. When you dry with a towel, all the dirt shows on the cloth.
And the dirt and grit from the previous cars get ground into tour finish.
Soft touch is generally pretty safe and usually does a better job. It may sound rough but the brushes are typically made out of a special material that don’t damage or scratch anything. It only becomes a problem when the brushes get worn out and dirty, which is a testament to the owner and not the car wash itself.
Since there’s no way to tell which car wash owner takes care of their brush, then touchless option becomes the safer way
@@slimjimjimslim5923 it’s easier than you might think. It doesn’t take much to see which car wash has their brushes well maintained. Worn out brushes will usually have black spots on them and sometimes broken off bristles. Properly maintained brushes keep their original color and don’t leave streaks when washing.
@@mattdude oh god I don’t know if I want to drive around and look at the brushes from each car wash XD maybe like a one time effort
@@slimjimjimslim5923 you don’t have to do anything like that. But, if you plan on using a soft touch car wash at a gas station, just get a good look at the brushes before using it. If the color on the brushes look bright and shiny, then you know it will be safe and effective. However, if they look faded and have black spots, then try somewhere else. For what it’s worth, although usually more expensive than other gas stations, I find that 7-Eleven does a good job at maintaining their car washes if you’re still worried about gas station owners not caring enough.
I prefer to both since they do good
I like how you called the hood a bonnet! 🤣
In Germany, almost every gas station has a touch car wash included. In some areas you find self-service car washes, they're getting more popular because you get everything for a lower price. Sure, self service is more work, because you have to wash your car yourself, but that's okay.
Best car wash I found is touch free. With a person spray washing in the beginning. Then enter touch-less tunnel. Exit with a hand dry. Three employees with excellent results.
I agree that there is a higher risk of damage; however, as a customer, I've never had a good touchless wash. Maybe that's due to a weak pre-soak?
I prefer the touch car washes because they do a better job cleaning and never had issues with any scratches since the one I go to has soft cloth brushes
I've even been to the brush car washes that basically just rub the cloth across the cars. Still scares me. I would pick toughness for sure.
Excited for more content!
Yeah right. Cheers Morgan
Sorry, just your average annoying carwash enthusiast. 😂
You rarely have to worry about the cloths giving you scratches. They are usually made of high quality soft material carefully chosen to avoid scratches. Aslong as the car soaks you down with soap before scrubbing, you shouldn’t get any scratches. The only time you might get a scratch is when the wash is made cheaply, the wash isnt maintained or if you have any large vehical accessories. (There are usually warning sign outside the wash to tell you about banned accessories)
So next time going through a carwash, don’t worry!
@@Leoleony123 I will agree that the newer foam brush is better, but when I was recording a wash it bent the wiper all up into an odd form, and the wash just got renovated last year. I also have had bad experiences before also..
@@DylBuilder1 Ouch, that cant be good. Some car models do have a bit of incompatibility with soft touch washes. This was most likely the owner of the washes fault for not specifying the incompatibility.
Soft touch washes are safer than what many people think as the material is made of foam that is pretty much state of the art. If I owned a car wash I would stick to having a touchless wash since they have less moving parts than a soft touch for an in bay automatic. The systems you went through a a Mark Vii AquaJet XT and a Ryko Softgloss Maxx 5
Another amazing video, was looking forward to this, would love to see another livestream soon or something!
Thanks Connor. Will do a live soon for sure
Have try lamp clothes for a brushes and drapes instead of rubber or forms brushes
Touch free wash. No damage to cars..or trucks..its good if your car is vary clean..to start out.. I like self service washes..if it's clean..and hogs hair brushes are clean.. ok we use blendco chems at our self service wash...I think there tops in value..for our customers.. I give them the foaming soap vary heavily..it cost vary little to give a bit more..out of the foaming brush..yellow is best no staining hands..we have a osasi xp.wash touch free unit..as well. Works great. Again heavy pre- soak... bug remover helps to remove road film..
7:30 comes down to chems the owner is spending for or cheapening out on
I’ll never use a auto car wash with brushes as I hate swirl marks. On the same note I’ll never use a diy car wash that only has nylon brooms and the ones with the soft brooms I always blast with the soap spray nozzle before I’ll put it near my car but even then I’ll only use them lightly lol
As a owner of a full service car wash, we offer many options to our customers. We have six self service bays, a 90ft express wash tunnel, and onsite detailing. Regarding the express tunnel, we use the highest quality equipment (Sonnys) and chemicals in the business. This equipment will not cause scratches to the clear coat in most cases unless the vehicle is covered in mud. In those situations we advise our customers to spray them off in our self serve before using the tunnel. Regarding detailing, we suggest that customers have their cars fully detailed each quarter. Hope that this helps. 😀
That’s great. Absolutely. Thanks 👍🏻
@@CarWashChronicles If you ever in the Pittsburgh area, let me know and I can walk you through our car wash.
@@eriksavini691 What wash do you own? I may have been to it.
@@Leoleony123 Crown Clean Car
@@eriksavini691 Thats a really nice wash man. I have never been, but I looked it up and saw some pictures. Keep it up.
I am a carwash distributer in your area for both Belanger and Pdq, There is a lot of assumption even in the replies on this page about which is better and will this clean or will this scratch. The easiest answer is that it comes down to the owner/ operator. I can get a touchless car wash to clean but the operator needs to keep it that way. Most of the complaints about a touchless not cleaning are due to operators not understanding the chemistry or not wanting to pay what it costs to get there. The easiest place for operators to help their bottom line is in the chemical cost as electricity, water and sewer are somewhat fixed. Many operators will thin out the chemical to the point where it doesn't work and then their car counts start to drop as well. You end up choosing a point that is good enough as a trade off for one car in the bay for twice as long or twice the cost of chemical or is a 90% clean acceptable. In cloth washes most of the In Bay Automatics use soft neoprene almost like a wet suit and the issue with scratching is two things, one what was on the vehicle before you that is now on the cloth or how long since it was cleaned and are they using the correct soap, again cutting corners on the soap causes problems.
I believe that in one of your other videos you showed your entry unit and it may have been a wash select 2 or a portal, the wash select 2 is toward the end of its life cycle and the portal has replaced it as Unitec's stand alone entry unit. The c-start you were looking at at both of the locations in this video are a stripped down model similar to the portal for gas stations or anywhere that doesn't want or require the extra features of a portal, Both are made by Unitec so it is very similar to what you have.
In the world or in bay automatics traditionally the big three have been ryko, mark 7 and Pdq. feel free to message me if you have any questions.
I preferred the soft touch more
Great video!! I’m still hunting myself
Thanks. Nice.
In scadinavia with our winters the cars get really dirty the touchless wash wont get the car clean, it looks clean at first but then if you drag your hand on the car its like a dirt film , I wash mostly by hand but if stressed automatic with brushes.
Touchless car washes are for cars that have waxes and sealants on both the paint and wheels. Dirt and brake dust comes right off.
Touch car washes are for those who just want a simple wash that does it all - but at risk for eventual clear coat failure.
You can utilize these washes to very effectively clean your vehicle, but what I have learned is you better be ready to do a lot of the drying and actual detailing yourself lol. I always bring a bunch of microfiber towels with me
I just do a good ol fashioned driveway wash 😂
When's a Touchless Car Wash owner in Massachusetts it actually has a TH-cam video demonstrating the importance of towel drying after going through the touchless wash. He does have dryers installs but still recommends towels drying.
@@robertknight4672 Oh yeah absolutely. I usually bring 10-12 with me each time to be safe. Not only is there still water on the car after each wash which makes it look subpar, but you really should make sure all those chemicals etc. get cleaned off as they can be very acidic and damaging to the paint.
Do a manual car wash, then once a week go through touchless one
It is very simple. Touch will usually give you a cleaner car and touchless helps preserve your finish.
Touchless all the time... The Hurricane you hear with the brushes is your paint getting scratched and your clearcoat getting damaged. (with tiny particles of sand acting like sandpaper)
Buuut touchless requires a couple of things: Proper presoak foam (a thick layer) very high pressure rinse... Tryfoam (LOTS OF IT) Wax/Clearcoat protection etc...
This touchless in the video had very little foam soo it couldnt wash the Pick-up very well.
Ultimate Truck is an overstatement... Since a Ultimate truck is a Peterbilt Truck with atleast 18 wheels.
Ye have a nice Pick-up buut it aint a truck.
Most gas stations don't have a vending machine usually I see a vacuum and air tire inflator
I'd like to see a video of a close up comparison of new "whapers" vs. old ones to see how much abrasive material has latched onto the strands of "whaper" material.
Chris, thanks for the informative video..Not a chance I'd let those strips of cloth beat against the skin of my C8. I wish there was a good touchless car wash in my town. Not much fun washing my cars in the winter!
I wash my truck automatic and is ok never had problems
I prefer the brush washer for the car I drive coz it’s not a new fancy car.
If I had some new Mercedes or sth, I’d prefer touchless one.
Though, we have some much much better brush washers in Europe. Ones that have special brushes for the wheels and can really make the car nice and clean.
You also mentioned that you felt rubber smell… rubber brushes are not the best.
There are much better and more gentle yet effective material brushes… almost like some microfiber or sth.
In Holland I had my van washed by very good machine for only 4 euros. It’s a shame I didn’t check the machine’s brand. Would love to share that brand with you otherwise.
quick question do you ever get a customer complain or try to sue you for paint being chipped or antenna breaking or anything else??
1:02 Explain Carwash Chronicles Explain!
Just kidding with you, great video as always!
Haha. Thanks!
usually the touch carwashes get the hard to reach places the touchless doesn't get for example the pdq tandem systems or the pdq tandem surfline and other touch carwashes good for bug busting
but if u want a wash and the dirt comes completely off with no hard to get off spots then touchless if the touchless doesn't do the job then go with the touch
there r many different companies that do touch washes with a brush
oasis
ryko
mark 7
belanger
PDQ
D and S
autec
washworld
they also have touchless washes available
plus tunnel washes provide all of them touch and touchless
Since one with the rolling brushes ripped off my antenna I’ll be doing touchless when I’m not going to a place that hand washes.
The only automated one I’d use is brushless. Even microfiber strips can get dirty between washes and snap dirt on your car that’s where the swirls are from
well i will never pay that kind of touchless cause its really expensive for that work and definitely i will never choose brushes for the car..so the conclusion is until the touchless tech became better we will stay at the traditional way . gj m8 and nice video like always
Cheers 🍻
Never ever use a "soft touch". I detail cars and it's the easiest way to take the shine out of your car with scratches and swirls.
The brushes are usually made of high quality material that will not give the vehicle scratches. Although, if the wash is not maintained or cheaply made, it could very well give scratches.
The soap on some automatic carwashes can also be harsh if cheap chemicals are used. I perfer goong to a trusted wash or going to a self serve so you can do it yourself. So, not all washes give scratches, but some could.
And paint shops say the same about detailers.
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Yeah, but that’s car wash is better for people who don’t have money detailing is way more expensive than just going to pay for $10-$15 car wash
It depends on what car you got and where you’re at you can cost anywhere from $50-$400. I’d rather just pay a 15 bucks for a car wash.
I don’t think this video was entirely accurate, both washes were bad examples of both types of automatic washes. The Mark VII touchless didn’t have correct chemistry to remove the bird crap and other dirt, the Ryko was VERY bad, you can see the top brush missing almost all of its foam on the left side, and those rear brushes’ pressure was set way too high, with lower pressure it would’ve been much more gentle on the car. With the right example of both this video could’ve been a lot better. I’m tired of people saying the soft touch machines scratch, unless they are a very specific kind of brush, they don’t. The one in this video is kind of the worst of both worlds. Brush pressure set too high with bad brush material. Good soft touch washes use closed cell foam. It’s a foam that is very dense and cannot absorb water or dirt, making it very safe on the car. The brush type in this video is called Foambrite. It’s Ryko specific, and it’s pretty bad. It’s much more dense than regular foam and doesn’t repel dirt as easily, which is why you see a lot of dirty Ryko brushes. On top of that it doesn’t break as easily, making it easier to damage cars. Regular foam will snap off if it gets caught on something making it very safe for cars. The other type is soft cloth, which is as you would expect, cloth. It absorbs water and dirt too, making it sandpaper after a few muddy cars go though. This brush type is commonly found at tunnel car washes. Always look for non tunnel non Ryko soft touch washes for the best experience. Like I said, bad examples of both types. Please try this again at a professional car wash instead of gas stations, it makes the entire automatic car wash industry look bad when it’s just crappy managers that don’t care about the car wash.
Soft Touch. If you want bugs to be removed I’d do soft touch. Mark 7 makes a bay system that you can choose between soft touch and touch free. Touchless have a hard time with bugs and more stubborn stuff
It is extremely rare for a soft touch to scratch. Filament was thought to scratch if it got worn out, though that would only happen if it was also dry, otherwise, it would leave deposits that look like scratches. Foam brushes, like what's used on modern car washes, like the SoftGloss Maxx 5 brush, resists dirt and debris, cannot scratch unless somebody literally ties an object in the brushes, which is unlikely. Cloth brushes however, oh my. A GIGANTIC fail. If you don't clean them, they get plaque, you need to bleach them one by one, yuck. And it loves to pick up debris.
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It’s a hard answer because I wash my car at both type of car washes
Where are you located to be able to get $8 car washes? Every place around me is at minimum of $15 for a basic wash all the way up to $30 for a "platinum" wash.
Washtec rollover anytime
The second one is good
Go to self serve, use your own cloth to clean, then use power rinse. No damage and car is clean:
Prefer soft touch
What do I do if all I have is a little change to purchase a car wash but no experience how to run one or fix any of the equipment?
TOUCHLESS IS BETTER
THE TOUCH ONE WITH THE SPININNG BRUSHES SCRATCHES EVERYTHING
What do you think about touchless blastoff brand?
For a ceramic coated car, nothing should be allowed to touch your car but citrus foam, neutral ph shampoo high pressure water, and a microfiber towel.
the best car wash would probably be an autec ev-1 evolution I have nothing but good things to say about those machines.
I would always rather do it myself, self serve😌
There ya go. Same here.
Speak to Mark VII for your automatic equipment, they are the world leader is automatic wash technology , they also have an excellent chemical supply decision.
Definitely touch car washes
17:16 don't really know much about CA washes but, if there are sensors that control the brush travel path, I wonder if there is a sensor adjustment (angle) that will help it better follow the vehicle contour by the rear window. Curious. I like the brush type but, have an older truck with flawed paint.
About car washes...
Just choose a combo wash can do touch-free and soft touch and the same time😢
Good for soft convertible?
A touch wash is always better than a touchless a touchless cant get all the traffic film and stuck on dirt off but touch washed tend to cause scratches by rocks and debree stuck in the Brushes
13:55 color wave
Its all in the chemicals,, 2 step presoak, dwelling time and ect
Have you thought about hiring an attendant to do handwashes? You already have the bays and hiring one person and charging $15 per wash seems like a no brainer and you are giving a superior service to any automated car wash.
Nah. The least amount of moving parts for me the better so I can scale with less headaches. Might be a good idea for someone with 1 or 2 washes.
I prefer self-serve, that way, my car does not get damaged...again.
13:24 never do this
This is why those that care about their car or truck go to a self serve car wash, do it themselves by hand at home, or have it done by hand by a professional. Tunnels suck!
I will reveal the Sceptre of Judah in my Hollywood blockbuster movie.
Nothing like a Hydrofluoric acid bath for your vehicle....The scratches are free.
The whole idea is to use it regularly and not let bird shit cake and dry on your vehicle. 😂
So basically: "The touch wash didn't scratch anything OR damage anything and did a far better job cleaning at a SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper price. And basically everything I can make up to say bad DIDN'T happen and actually did everything better. Buuuuuuut... uhm... OH! OH OH OH! IT MAKES NOISE! AND I DON'T LIKE THAT AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU! ... plus, I own a touchless, and therefore of course I'm going to say it's better. Oh yeah. I'd DEFINITELY recommend spending more money to get your car less clean."
Touchless
I have been in the business for 18 years now, started detailing and now own 5 locations offering automated, hand wash and self serve.
Every system is flawed, contactless are just not good enough for very dirty cars, I don't own one myself, but do have a contact automated wash. Contact washes do put tiny scratches in your clear coat, but a good polish every year will take care of these.
All said though, even your self serve bays will scratch paint. The brushes will pick up grit from the floor and dirty cars and will put tiny scratches in your clearcoat. If I was to use a self serve wash, I would take my own sponge or mitt and always avoid the brush.
Good 👌👌
A "soft touch" carwash is good IF ONLY it's been maintained well. 99% of these are NOT. They contain grime inside the brushes. Those will create swirls and scratches. What does this mean? Expect 100% of these gas station washes to leave your car with scratches. And 90% of those dedicated "fast car wash" washes.
Car washing job
Touchless has always left my car dirty
Automatic car washes with brushes, no matter the type of brush will clean better but they destroy your paint. Never use them!
Your head lights need to be cleaned up (foggy).
Big time.
84 inches lol, its so wierd
Automatic will break down every second
Don’t exaggerate, every 3 seconds 🤣
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Woohoo
i'm looking in to purchasing a car wash and turn it into a touchless. youtube petit car wash, its the best ive seen and people seem to love it. what do you think?