"If eren dies, Paradis will sink into a sea of blood. The world will take vengeance on us! And kill you parents, siblings and our children!, Defend the Island and our Country!" Which what happened in the end, King Floch will dedicate his life to save eldia and he was right all along, respect 📈📈📈📈📈
@@doonbinladen940 I think he was being sarcastic as to why anyone who isn’t from Marley joining the alliance are stupid. If not then he’d be mentally ill. I’m sure he’s probably being sarcastic as to why the alliance is flawed
@@elock1277 if my family, friends and relatives are in paradis, I'd definitely fight for paradis than some random people who turned our lives into living hell. Infact fuck them. Burn in hell. All of them.
1:57 I wonder if Floch was getting flashbacks to season 3 and Erwin's charge "RAGE MY SOLDIERS, SCREAM MY SOLDIERS,FIGHT MY SOLDIERS!" Floch did exactly that and went out like a soldier and commander of Eldia!
Most likely yes, remember that he's the only one that heard the whole speech and is still alive, he's the only one that carries the full legacy of Erwin.
Holy shit that just made this scene so much better for me. In a weird and twisted way floch is essentially the embodiment of erwin not armin. I guarantee this ost is playing in floch’s head right before he faces this unbeatable situation. Just like erwin with the beast titan.
In my ending, Floch hit that ship and there is a 7 meter large, full bronze equestrian statue dedicated to him on Floch Forster Square in Mitras: In his left hand an Eldian flag, in his right a sword pointing westward.
@@animeguy2961 Nah, that's a different statue few streets away in front of the parliament building. It's dedicated to all veterans and martyrs of the Restoration. Although the soldier on the monument isn't named, people often say the features of it is similar to the one at Forster Square. Both were made by the same sculptor after all.
Even if floch did hit the ship it was gonna be a matter of time the alliance figures out Falco's jaw titan can fly and decide to use him instead (that is if the alliance manage to survive)
@@cesarebonazza7236 Well not Armin's fault if Paradise starts fascism around the world to the communist, capitalist after Armin died. If you make troubles, then war will come to you for free.
@MRX Doesn't change the fact that Island did started fascism after Eren died and wanted to take over small nations and were acting like Marley infront of the rest nations in the world. Marley was a fascist country and hence almost every big/small nation hated Marley and were in war against Marley. N@zi, Marley both had an awful fate for being a fascist race, Paradise will get the same fate if they act like them too.
"The hardest choices requires the strongest wills" Erwin thought he was fighting for humanity's sake meanwhile Floch is fighting for Eldian people's sake. The difference is Floch found out how evil and cruel humanity can be. That's why he's so desperate to defend Paradis.
@@Elysin_TH-cam technically it is genocide. It counted as genocide when the Jews got it and there are a plethora of the still alive in the world. Mostly because children being born and cause and effect but still. Not all we're killed during the quote "genocide"
To be honest Erwin fought that the last of humanity resided in the walls atleast I don't think he knew about the other races and stuff. Correct me if I am wrong
@@blaisentelah2882 I mean yeah he died in season 3 before knowing there are other people outside the island. He got all those theory from his father's book iirc. But what he didn't know is that the humans outside the island want to kill all of them just to get the founding Titan. If he ever survived you best bet he gonna change his priorities from discovering what beyond the island to protecting his people
@@luxeternity He'd be sad that Eren would've had to Rumble it but, yeah he'd help protect Paradis if he couldn't negotiate it all with like, Willy or something
@@coltondraws6566 Do you think letting cringevengers stop the rumbling will be good for Eldia? Because Floch squad failed to stop these traitors, their homeland in manga was annihilated by remnants of the survived countries which werent rumbled. At the end, Floch was right that their country will sink in blood because of those idiots. I really dont understand why people hate this poor dude that only want to save his homeland. =(
Man this comparison video really shows how similar both Erwin and Floch really were in leading people, its an energy and style not even Armin or Jean have matched
@@samuelbustamante1083 Te equivocas, Floch al igual que Erwin luchaban por tener la paz en Eldia, el problema es que Erwin la tenia facil ya que tenia que luchar con titanes deshumanizados, pero Floch tenia que luchar contra personas.
@@rodrigobenavidez395 cuando Erwin incitó la revuelta contra el falso rey Fritz también luchó contra un enemigo interno y aun así su retorica le llegó a los miembros acomodados de la policía militar. En ese momento Eldia era un concepto desconocido para Erwin, el solo quería llegar a una verdad y justicia dentro de las murallas. Floch siguió las incitaciones de guerra de Eren porque quería venganza (entendible), pero al costo de irse contra muchos del mismo pueblo que quería revivir. Al final mucha gente se unio a los jeageristas por miedo de ser matados por flock o porque tenian miedo de las represalias del resto del mundo
@@samuelbustamante1083 (Spoiler warning for chapters that haven't been adapted into the anime yet) Ah, yes, wanting to save your nation from the entirety of the outside world isn't for a bigger cause, but recovering some lost land is (Of course, not to ridicule Erwin, as Floch was basically his successor)? Are you seriously implying Floch didn't know The Rumbling was the only way to truly stop Eldia from being attacked? I'm amazed at how someone could misunderstand a character this terribly, but oh well, it's the AOT fandom we're talking about. "It was just some glorification of his own ego"? By now, I'm just assuming you didn't understand most of the story regarding season 4. Floch was one of the most selfless soldiers we have ever seen. Even if you somehow missed everything he did until now and the obvious intentions behind his actions, his last words basically debunk this whole thing. He truly believed "their devil was their last hope". Of course, my apologies if I made it seem like it's your fault you didn't understand the story. Isayama made a lot of bad decisions in the last arc, and that's being generous.
@@samuelbustamante1083 Wanting to defend your country and people is not a bigger cause? During Erwin's time he didn't need to be as brutal as Floch. Both of them were willing to achieve victory no matter the cause. Erwin never saw the outside world and how dangerous it was.
That goes also for all of you dumbasses that apparently don't know how to read. And those claiming anyways that Floch had such good intentions, maybe he had? or maybe he was just as thirsty of seeing himself at the top of his newly funded dictatorship, just like the assholes that governed Paradis under the secret command of the Reiss. He tried to be Hitler, but was the lackey of Eren. Don't get me wrong, he was indeed an important part of Erens plan, but once again for all the ones that cheer how a great person he was and such an inspiring leader, let us not forget he was initially an accomplice of how Zeke poisoned half of the military to control those he couldn't coerce into becoming the Jagger mafia. Im not even taking sides. But you can see that there were people, countries that weren't Paradis enemies were targeted by them all just because they had the power and decided to use it to prove once again why the eldians should have gone extint.
I think floch is the only one who took Erwin's last speech to heart . He gave meaning to both captain Erwin's life and also to Hitch's boyfriend life by assimilating their souls within.
He was just an ordinary soldier with no Ackerman qualities yet managed to go against the titan shifters and the scout commander and almost won if not for that aimbot girl. You just can't deny he was badass till the end
@@LymLevolveon welp you failed both. Morally it is right to crush out what basically amounts to being a bunch of Nazi Germanys. By your logic... we wouldn’t and shouldn’t have invaded Germany during WW2. Because it would have killed a lotta people. Eren is morally right to crush the world for his friends and country. He’d be morally wrong to let them kill them all because ultimately there are more people on their side... you’re ignorant.
@@LymLevolveon btw before you go crying they weren’t all bad... They watched for centuries what basically amounted to being the Holocaust happen to Eldians and accepted it... yes they are all bad... There being a few good people doesn’t mean Eren shouldn’t absolutely destroy everyone outside the walls.
The fact that Floch lack's plot armor (at most, we could say he had it when he was the survivor of Zeke's rocks, but that doesn't give him powers or any real advantage, he's just a human that that went from some background char to what he is now) , yet he manages to rally so many eldians to take down a corrupt gov that wasn't doing shit, just makes him all the more endearing. This man, was literally your average joe recruit, was scared shitless to die as you'd expect most of people to in his situation, was indeed lucky, yet he took it upon himself to do what was needed to both save Eldia & not let the deaths of Erwin & the rest of his fellows in arms that died that day (and beyond), be meaningless. Without any OP Ackerman blood, without any titan powers, without being born in wealth, he achieved all this - and it makes a lot of sense why too, it's not just a side char underdog story that manages to rise due to plot armor.
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 who the f cares about your opinion, the whole snk fandom is full of teen brain ppl, he's popular in Japan and that's enough, cry harder since he was proven at the end of Manga when eldia was destroyed and drown in a sea of blood, your fav traitor
yeagerist logic = kill everyone who isnt paradis eldian and who you hate cuz fuck only attacking the military. lets kill the innocent cuz they are "the enemy" marley/world offficals logic = kill every eldian devil cuz they did the same to us and can turn into titans and destroy the entire world. lets kill the innocent cuz they are "the enemy"
-Armin (indirectly and not by his choice) took Erwin's life -Armin was hesitant and indecisive -Armin was also unable to inspire -Armin was only against the rumbling because of Annie wanting to meet her dad. -Absent in major events except for turning into colossal titan, which anyone could have done. -Floch carried Erwin's body and made good arguments on why he should be chosen over Armin. -Floch was able to step up from a coward and had everything planned out (even tho things didn't go accordingly) -Floch made sure the yeagerists followed through with his plan. -Was a major character behind major events and stayed loyal through the end.
Kinda agree with your point but with no armin humanity would have been defeated at the battle of trost, battle of wall maria, and armin was against the rumbling b4 he even knew hat annie wanted. Also armin came up with the battle plan to save eren from liberio, ultimately they barely lost any soldiers in that battle and they crushed the marleyan military. Armin isn’t a fighter but a strategist, u have to be both to be a commander tho imo so he isn’t right for the role but he is still is irreplacable. Idk if u read the manga so i won’t go longer but he is also crucial later on
@@mikoajh2747 Both of Wall Maria and Trost happened before the timeskip. Before Erwin died. And really all Armin did in those was state the obvious. Ever other character is constantly made dumber around him so he can seem smart. If Erwin was the colossal he would've handle Liberio even better than Armin did. And really All Armin did was blow up the port. Since you've read the manga: MAJOR spoilers obv He is "crucial" later on? In what way? Killing Eren and dooming Paradis? If Erwin was chosen instead he wouldn't have killed Eren from saving the island. Shit, Eren wouldn't have even needed to rumble because Erwin would've found another way, unlike Hange and Armin who had no solutions.
@@slendrfrut erwin wasn’t there during the battle of trost and no one rly figured out that reiner was in the walls during the beggining of wall maria battle. Liberio couldn’t have been handled better, the battle went pretty much perfectly even with the slight annoyances that happened because of pieck and porco getting out of the hole but that was necessarcy to eat the war hammer titan Manga Spoilers: I don’t see erwin convincing zeke to help every1 save the world from the rumbling which was littearaly the turning point of the battle
@@mikoajh2747 Exactly. Somehow no one else thought that they could be in the walls. Somehow no one saw the ash from the fire on the wall. Somehow no one else saw the camp site. And like the genius he is "there were 3 cups, so there must've been at least 3 people." Damn Armin, you're so smart. How could Liberio NOT have been handled better. Being even on both sides is not the sign of a well handled battle lmao. If it was Erwin it'd be a one sided battle with Marley completely losing. Marley had no idea they'd attack, that should've been used against them better. But regardless of that the biggest reason it would've been handle better is because it WOULDN'T have needed to happen. Eren stayed in Marley because no one was figured out a solution to them wanting to genocide Paradis. Erwin would've found a solution. Even if that was to go to war. They wouldn't need to have risked everything to retrieve Eren. MANGA SPOILERS: Please explain to me why Armin needed to convince Zeke to "save the world" from the rumbling? Why did ZEKE need to be convinced that he should do something about Eren killing the outside world? That makes absolutely no sense and is further proof that everyone is made to be an idiot around Armin just so he can seem smart.
Armin: The fake successor of Erwin who didn't do shit after getting power. Floch: The true successor of Erwin who without any special powers or blood took on best of the best and dedicated his heart for his goal
Hange said Eren plan is good but she cant handle it morally. You know who could. You know someone who threw his humanity to save his people. He said "when you get emotional, let someone else make the decision" Someone who became the Devil and killed his own people to save his people. I hope there was someone like that.
@@cenevregundi i am not kidding, because in s3 part 2 of aot , when levi had to make the choice, eren said armin will save humanity and play the role of shit avengers.that means Erwin won't , he would have just been more aggressive and smart version of current floch.
You should not open your when you don't no nothing about even so Erwin always took gamble and make sure paradise will free from the never-ending cycle of hate.
@@mentally-stable-human first of all Eren did what he did because the scouts failed, and scouts wouldn't fail if Erwin was alive. Erwin would do the most logical thing that the both party couldn't do but conditions is that Historia or other Titan Shifters need to live like a livestock which Eren don't want. Also Eren never meant in S3 p2 that Erwin won't be among the avengers, infact he knew nothing about it, he was just comparing himself with Armin, not Armin with Erwin. And no version of Floch would be Erwin, Erwin is just a complete different breed. In Ep23, he didn't sacrifice rather he had two more backup plans to capture Annie which both failed due to lack of information about Annie. Erwin knows the difference between threat, hatred, fear which Yeagerist couldn't, infact Yeagerist wouldn't even born if Erwin was alive. Here's the video where Erwin's character was potrayed perfectly th-cam.com/video/boCqxeeU4cY/w-d-xo.html
@@ShiroTeri lmao do you really think erwin would be turned into a titan? Cause he is way to intelligent for that besides he will already find out about what eren is planning because unlike others who became braindead erwin won't become one
@@Ryuk____ Lol yeah he did by leaving Paradis's fate up to chance in the ending. And it ended up with the eldians getting bombed. Eren becoming soft now was an insult to the efforts of Floch and the Jaegerists to support him. If the Jaegerists would have known that it would end up like this, they would never have supported Eren. Of course they didn't know Eren would screw everything up, so basically they fought and died for nothing.
The ending proves that Eren didn't care about the Jaegerists; he only cared about himself and his lust for Mikasa. What a clown. Blatant disrespect to the legacy of the Survey Corps. Reiner was right. Eren is the one person on earth who should never have the founder.
Ctfu imagine rooting for people who want to commit genocide your a disgrace and sorry excuse for a human being just like Floch and whoever supports his bullshit your the one who is being unrealistic moron
@@iftie6 what? Marley attacks Eldia when they were isolation, but when they start feeling the heat they beg for surrender but that action angers the world and wants Paradis to be bathed in blood. Jean allowed Eldia to perish with all the souls lost, purely for his and the rest of the alliances ego. A scout would fight for the nation, their people, their homes and loved ones not people who want them dead.
@@iftie6 he had the best buildup in my opinion. those guys have been around much longer but floch in only this half of the season and a few appearances really has shown huge development and character.
It is sad that they give him less protagonism than he deserved because otherwise people would love him more than the "alliance". Truly underrated character.
why would they regret? They did what Eren wanted them to do, Eren wanted his friends to be the "new" Tybur, he knew that the hatred would not totally disappear, it would only disappear for about 20 thousand years and then will be back when no one remembers what happened. By that time all his friends had been dead for millennia so he no longer cared what happened to his people, that possibly with natural evolution they were no longer even "his people"
@@thestruggler776The anime is the canon version.And even in the manga,it's still many years after his friends die.And the whole point of the show is the cycle of hartred and war,even if all the world was whiped out,Eldians would be fighting themselves.
I'll admit that I hated Floch when I was reading the manga as it came out. But after that atrocious ending and the extra chapter, my eyes opened to the absolute chadness of Floch. So, I definitely understand why anime onlies hate Floch right now. If AOE doesn't happen and they adapt the manga without any changes, people are gonna understand my man's viewpoint.
Exactly. If the ending was more peaceful, I don't think any of us would be praising Floch for being right, but for being a relatable villain. Instead, we got this shit ending and now all of us are being compelled to put this guy on a pedestal. Those who don't are probably just coping with the ending and trying to justify Armin's mistakes as much as they can so that they can ignore how bad the series actually became. Are these really the final thoughts you wanted to leave with us Isayama? Because if this wasn't your intention, that only proves further how bad your writing was in the end.
Yea & the thing is, when looking at it in restrospective or better yet, a cause & effect scenario which some chars that are level-headed enough would be able to figure out ahead of time - like Floch - , everything becomes that much more infuriating. When Jean literally asks Hange what'll happen to Paradis after, and even tho' she knows VERY WELL what's the most likely option since she herself has visited other Marley and witnessed how the rest of the world sees Eldians even in that conference that was shown in the last ep in the flashback , the answer she gave was something along the lines of "we'll have a few more years..." that's when you know someone is making decisions based on some ideology with no proper means of achieving it, rather than the logical outcome.
Honestly, I first thought of Floch as a throw away character with some weird hair back in season 3, but when he talked about Erwin and how they needed a devil like Erwin, I started to like him. Then at the Ceremony when he told Hitch the truth and called out the surviving scouts for their decisions on whether to choose Erwin or Armin, I liked him even more. The season 4 comes along and I start questioning my morality, would I side with Eren and Floch who wanted to destroy the world or would I choose the moral high ground and protect the world, I realized Floch was the devil Erwin was, and now with these last few episodes, I know Floch is the Patriotic Devil of the Story. He dedicated his heart to the cause and fought for Eldia to the very end, he fought for his people and understood that if they failed, then Eldia would fall. He led his soldiers to their deaths and nearly single-handedly won the war with his sacrificial charge. This man is the real devil and one of the greatest characters(IMO). A legend.
I genuinely think out of anyone’s plans. Floch and Eren have the most realistic and solid one. Every other one is inconsistent and leads to suffering spanning decades to centuries. While theirs is a quick and effective end with the island being saved. Even Hange, the smartest or second smartest character in the show admits that Eren is right. She just refuses because she cannot bare it morally. Which honestly in actuality is selfish which hits on another theme people seem to miss. Eren isn’t the bad guy. People keep talking about Erens selfishness meanwhile the “protagonists” are selfish enough to slaughter their old friends and murder their leaders, dooming the island and everyone who lives there to eventual invasion from the outside world. all because they are doing what is clearly the only real option, because they cannot morally stomach the rumbling. That is true selfishness. Dooming their old friends and family to die from the outside world that in every other plan would attack paradise anyways...
it's quite sad Floch and Eren didn't have someone like Erwin. they can't convince Paradis Island's citizen to agree on their beliefs. if they can convince Paradis Island people that what they do is right, they will avoid so many internal bloodshed. they just use word of hate and fear to motivate people, not like how Dot Pixis, Erwin, and Armin did to motivate and convincing people, through courage speech and charisma. You can't expect all people of Eldia within Island to agree on a silent maniac killer, remember, Eren never proclaimed himself as king or ruler, and never talk to Paradis people, and suddenly (BAM!), centipede titan goes out there to kill everyone. how Armin's team fight for what morally's right, I think it's not selfish. if Eldian throw away what's morally right, they will develop backwards to their old Eldian days, where they enslave people and kill people easily even if it's their own race. so bloodshed was inevitable, and Floch never interested in having a collab with protagonist, Floch don't have an Ackerman friends, and his dad (Eren) leaves him on a trip to other country, he simply lost to a 100x stronger team...
Oh cmon. You can accept that eren’s plan is bad and still accept that its the only actual right way. Its morally wrong but logically right. You don’t have to turn hange into selfishness when she’s kinda right.
@@uenoyamakamishiro7646 it is selfish. It can be morally right and still selfish. Hange interested that they were good people outside of their Island, and that if Eren was not stopped they would be doomed. But by stopping him she would be dooming her own people, and she did it anyways out of her own moral sentimentality. Which is very selfish indeed
… Did the Alliance forget what Marley has done? Edit: some people in the comments have been saying “Eldia did shit things” or “Eldia is in the wrong”. Fuck off with that shit, I’ll tell you why: 1. Marley and Eldia have been at each other’s throats for hundreds of years. The conflict won’t be ended by talking it out. 2. Marleys citizens (even fellow Eldians) are perfectly fine with their Eldians getting wiped out at Paradis and said Eldians being treated as second hand citizens. These are not good people. And even with what Eren said into account, that, “there are good people here too.”. I think that was just empathy from him realizing they’re getting their comeuppance, but I digress. They are more bad people than good by far, so a sacrifice is needed for Paradis’s safety. 3. Marley attacked first with child soldiers (who were brainwashed Eldian children) and expected no repercussions. The Rumbling is said repercussion. 4. The Alliance is actively sabotaging their own chance of survival, they are traitors. The Rumbling is the only way to survive, as Eren saw at Marley. 5. Why are you guys okay with ARMIN and the traitor gang pretending to be saviors of the world when they’re most likely the ones who’ve done the most scumbag behavior + murder and those actions dooming Eldians to Hell? Eldians will get slaughtered like pigs if the Rumbling fails. In conclusion: fuck Marley, fuck the traitors, and Jeagerists solo the bozo Marleyans
@@nobsdodgers nah they know that Marley is doomed even Magath knew it and still sacrificed himself..... If anything they're doing for the rest of the world, even if they hate them, you gotta respect that regardless of your opinions on Floch or the Yeaggerists
A paradox, considering Bertholdt made some banger fucking monologues, but I guess Armin only inherited his titan from what we see in Season 4. Bertholdt still best Colossal Titan by the way.
@@BOLDmGAM3R But why??I mean yeah Levi wanted to free him from his suffering but he had a dream to see that damn basement and wanted to know about outside world and prove his father's theory true.This thing literally makes 0 sense to choose a kid with no experience and have no idea how to work like a commander.Yeah,Yams is a genius lol
@@Ashura658 I also don’t know why Levi pick armin over the commander… but I think is because of what Kenny say’s (everyone is drunk on something to keep them moving) and Levi asked Erwin what he’s gonna do after the basement he said he doesn’t know.. but levi overheard armin says he wanna explore the world and see the sea .. he thought well armin as a greater view then Erwin If you ask me I’ll say this selfish reason.. that’s what floch say….
@@Pqihtyieojn12 Ch 139 is disappointing but that doesn't mean you can ignore Eren's character until 138 ,, he is a real alpha male throughout the series until isayama decided to destroy his character to make him a simp
I gotta be real. Floch is just the man who is trying to protect his country no matter what. And for the guys with "Rumbling is wrong". Here my answer: It's not right and not wrong either. -Looking at Eren's respective: he also just wants to defend his country while the whole Marley just wants them to die. And if you only destroy Marley, other countries will try to destroy Eldia after that for that rumbling power. So he has to destroy it all -Looking at other people's respective: Rumbling is genocide. It's not good as killing people is not good. So the gang is trying to stop this. -At my respective: Eren and Eldian on Paradis has been suffering from the consequences although the old events had already passed for many many years. And you have already known, the present generation has absolutely nothing to do with taking the responsibility for the foul deeds that their ancestor once made. Yet the hate for Paradis is living still in the heart of many Marley and Eldian in Marley. Eren just sees no way to resolve this because that hate is too big. Ya know, violences breeds violences. But in the end, he has to choose this way.
Floch’s a gangster. All he asked for was to understand the cause, and be given a chance to accept or refuse. And Eren told him, and Floch went along with it, and threw his life away, for what he believed and agreed with.
The curious thing is that they were both attacked in the shoulder and continued to live (I say this because Gaby's shot did not kill him, it only hit him in the shoulder and he fell into the water)
Armin just wanted to see the ocean. He never wanted to be erwin successor And in the final season and in the end he fails to do live up to the expectation. Armin just proves time and time again how he is the biggest buren to eldia, eren, and Erwin.
@@vogel2499 And without erwin, the bigger threat of the beast titan wouldn't have been taken out. The situation with Zeke was MUCHHH harder to solve than Reiner and B. Armins wits there were great but Erwin was just way more suitable to be brought back anyways. Levis worst decision in the entire anime.
Floch actually witnessed Erwin when he had gave up on his future for the sake of others. That’s what made him turn out to be the way he was in the final season. Crazy to think how relateable he actually is.
Erwin,Zeke,Jean,Grisha,Floch,Historia,Hange,Reiner and Gabi. Shingeki has taught me that the best shows dont need to rely on the main cast,sometimes the secondary and "side" characters are even better and more interesting than some of the main ones.
It would've been cool if Floch also had that moment when he feels the comrades that charged towards death with him and Erwin are watching him, wondering if their sacrifice had meaning
I don't know if he was really realistic. His motives to defend his country made sense bit I feel like he was way to happy throughout. He would be holding people hostage and have a smile on his face. I just wish he had some more development as it felt weird to have him be a coward in season 3 and put of no where become better at using odm gear then all of the other veteran scouts and being completely fearless and desensitized.
Jean was better in terms of leadership. Floch's leadership is the reason why many comrades died without achieving anything tho Jean had experience that's why
Bro singlehandedly dodged the most op characters in aot, held Erwin's will, and is willing to defend his country no matter what, a true chad and a legend
Floch and the Yeagerists are fighting to protect their home and countrymen. What are Armin, Mikasa and Hange fighting for exactly? What is their plan to save Eldia?? Eren even asked Hange if she has an alternative plan when he was imprisoned and she couldn’t answer him. None of them can come up with an alternative that suits their morals and conscience. Eren and the Yeagerists have the conviction to get their hands dirty for their beliefs, the Alliance are still twiddling their thumbs and hoping for the best.
That’s the problem with the alliance. Their moral obligations purely surround themselves in the present time. Sure, they can try for world-peace, but what then? How do they know that will work? How will they control foreign countries that are many times their size? They have no plans for the future. The rumbling wasn’t right, but it was necessary. I don’t know why people couldn’t understand that.
Floch is the type of person with lag and a bad computer who enters a game full of hackers and tryhards, even though he knows he won't be able to beat them or face them, he gives it his all, being hated and insulted by everyone in the chat, but never giving up 🥶
Erwin siempre será único, pero Floch se ha rifado y a sido el único aparte de Eren que no se dejó llevar por una alianza y mantuvo su posición. "Floch, el verdadero sucesor de Erwin"
@@diegosolis9337 Estoy seguro que si salvaban a Erwin el hubiera redoblado la apuesta en liberio, yendo él en persona a spawnear al titán colosal matando a TODO el liderazgo de Marley incluyendo a los guerreros
The traitors of eldia and don’t deserve a happy ending, they are not only helping the people who treated them like slaves and wanted to destroy them, but also killing their own people. Floch would have won if it wasn’t faze gabi and plot armor.
You can hate Floch as much as you want, but you can't deny that he stood up for his ideals and protected his land until the end. No one can deny Floch's development, from being a pathetic soldier who preferred to sit and wait for his death rather than die fighting, to being the leader with courage and determination who protected Paradis with his life, resisting until the last moment.
For a character introduced at the end of season 3, flock went through so much development. He had the odds stacked against him in the end but never gave up. A true Elida Hero
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"If eren dies, Paradis will sink into a sea of blood. The world will take vengeance on us! And kill you parents, siblings and our children!, Defend the Island and our Country!" Which what happened in the end, King Floch will dedicate his life to save eldia and he was right all along, respect 📈📈📈📈📈
bUt saving the people outside the world takes priority than ours. and then they WoULd probably attack this island later….
@@derpynerdy6294 why?saving people you don’t know takes priority over your own?
Bruh i love horses but in this show they always brutally killed
@@doonbinladen940 I think he was being sarcastic as to why anyone who isn’t from Marley joining the alliance are stupid. If not then he’d be mentally ill. I’m sure he’s probably being sarcastic as to why the alliance is flawed
@@elock1277 if my family, friends and relatives are in paradis, I'd definitely fight for paradis than some random people who turned our lives into living hell. Infact fuck them. Burn in hell. All of them.
5 Titans shifters, 2 Ackerman, 1 Aimbot girl. That's what Floch facing with
The worst part is of all those the Aimbot girl got him.
@@agrimpuriya2585 faze
1 Ackerman to be specific
@@agrimpuriya2585 them faze ppl pretty good tho so I expect that
and Hange
1:57 I wonder if Floch was getting flashbacks to season 3 and Erwin's charge "RAGE MY SOLDIERS, SCREAM MY SOLDIERS,FIGHT MY SOLDIERS!" Floch did exactly that and went out like a soldier and commander of Eldia!
Most likely yes, remember that he's the only one that heard the whole speech and is still alive, he's the only one that carries the full legacy of Erwin.
Holy shit that just made this scene so much better for me. In a weird and twisted way floch is essentially the embodiment of erwin not armin. I guarantee this ost is playing in floch’s head right before he faces this unbeatable situation. Just like erwin with the beast titan.
Wish they would’ve showed a little flash back of the speech before floch did the rooftop charge
@@joaquinescobar9562 then again, maybe it's best to leave it as a small detail for fans who remember to appreciate.
He was doing so good until LABI with aim bot shot him down
In my ending, Floch hit that ship and there is a 7 meter large, full bronze equestrian statue dedicated to him on Floch Forster Square in Mitras: In his left hand an Eldian flag, in his right a sword pointing westward.
My ending is similar to yours but Floch is doing the Shinzou wo sasageyo pose
@@animeguy2961
Nah, that's a different statue few streets away in front of the parliament building. It's dedicated to all veterans and martyrs of the Restoration. Although the soldier on the monument isn't named, people often say the features of it is similar to the one at Forster Square. Both were made by the same sculptor after all.
Even if floch did hit the ship it was gonna be a matter of time the alliance figures out Falco's jaw titan can fly and decide to use him instead (that is if the alliance manage to survive)
@@aswadahmed8764 Too bad they figured out too late and eren completed the rumbling till they caught up with him
Kino
this is the best Floch tribute i have seen so far, the montage with Erwin goes hard
I also made an amv
For floch trieute
Tribute
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Never a successor. Watch this video, reality hurts but it is what it is, afterall facts taste bitter
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Armin : from Main supporting character to side character
Floch : from background character to Main supporting character
Meanwhile Floch is dead as f
@@cenevregundi so is %80 of humanity and entirety of paradise. your point is???
@@cenevregundi armin too is dead at the end of the story💀 and his speech for avoiding a war against paradis was useless
@@cesarebonazza7236 Well not Armin's fault if Paradise starts fascism around the world to the communist, capitalist after Armin died. If you make troubles, then war will come to you for free.
@MRX Doesn't change the fact that Island did started fascism after Eren died and wanted to take over small nations and were acting like Marley infront of the rest nations in the world. Marley was a fascist country and hence almost every big/small nation hated Marley and were in war against Marley. N@zi, Marley both had an awful fate for being a fascist race, Paradise will get the same fate if they act like them too.
"The hardest choices requires the strongest wills"
Erwin thought he was fighting for humanity's sake meanwhile Floch is fighting for Eldian people's sake. The difference is Floch found out how evil and cruel humanity can be. That's why he's so desperate to defend Paradis.
@@Elysin_TH-cam technically it is genocide. It counted as genocide when the Jews got it and there are a plethora of the still alive in the world. Mostly because children being born and cause and effect but still. Not all we're killed during the quote "genocide"
To be honest Erwin fought that the last of humanity resided in the walls atleast I don't think he knew about the other races and stuff. Correct me if I am wrong
@@blaisentelah2882 I mean yeah he died in season 3 before knowing there are other people outside the island. He got all those theory from his father's book iirc. But what he didn't know is that the humans outside the island want to kill all of them just to get the founding Titan. If he ever survived you best bet he gonna change his priorities from discovering what beyond the island to protecting his people
@@luxeternity oh yes I remember now and I also agree he would become a yeagerist
@@luxeternity
He'd be sad that Eren would've had to Rumble it but, yeah he'd help protect Paradis if he couldn't negotiate it all with like, Willy or something
Thank you Mappa for making the yeagerist soldiers looks a bit human not like the manga.
Based Mopper.
@@IndigoStat When the Mopper is based!
What happened in the manga? Can someone explain
@@dhruvsenju SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY
Alliance kills Eren and Paradis gets destroyed.
@@IndigoStat i know that I'm questioning the comment..what does he mean
Words can't describe how much I respect Floch.
Words can't describe how much I respect YOU, for commenting this on every Floch video XD
Deep down we all want to fight for someone as passionate and driven as floch
Words can't describe the satisfaction I felt after watching him get shot
@@Nozoroth Ah yes, like Hitler?... You do realize he is also an extremist and wanted others to submit to him.
@@coltondraws6566 Do you think letting cringevengers stop the rumbling will be good for Eldia? Because Floch squad failed to stop these traitors, their homeland in manga was annihilated by
remnants of the survived countries which werent rumbled. At the end, Floch was right that their country will sink in blood because of those idiots. I really dont understand why people hate this poor dude that only want to save his homeland. =(
Man this comparison video really shows how similar both Erwin and Floch really were in leading people, its an energy and style not even Armin or Jean have matched
@@samuelbustamante1083 Te equivocas, Floch al igual que Erwin luchaban por tener la paz en Eldia, el problema es que Erwin la tenia facil ya que tenia que luchar con titanes deshumanizados, pero Floch tenia que luchar contra personas.
@@rodrigobenavidez395 cuando Erwin incitó la revuelta contra el falso rey Fritz también luchó contra un enemigo interno y aun así su retorica le llegó a los miembros acomodados de la policía militar. En ese momento Eldia era un concepto desconocido para Erwin, el solo quería llegar a una verdad y justicia dentro de las murallas. Floch siguió las incitaciones de guerra de Eren porque quería venganza (entendible), pero al costo de irse contra muchos del mismo pueblo que quería revivir. Al final mucha gente se unio a los jeageristas por miedo de ser matados por flock o porque tenian miedo de las represalias del resto del mundo
@@samuelbustamante1083 (Spoiler warning for chapters that haven't been adapted into the anime yet)
Ah, yes, wanting to save your nation from the entirety of the outside world isn't for a bigger cause, but recovering some lost land is (Of course, not to ridicule Erwin, as Floch was basically his successor)? Are you seriously implying Floch didn't know The Rumbling was the only way to truly stop Eldia from being attacked?
I'm amazed at how someone could misunderstand a character this terribly, but oh well, it's the AOT fandom we're talking about.
"It was just some glorification of his own ego"? By now, I'm just assuming you didn't understand most of the story regarding season 4. Floch was one of the most selfless soldiers we have ever seen. Even if you somehow missed everything he did until now and the obvious intentions behind his actions, his last words basically debunk this whole thing. He truly believed "their devil was their last hope".
Of course, my apologies if I made it seem like it's your fault you didn't understand the story. Isayama made a lot of bad decisions in the last arc, and that's being generous.
@@samuelbustamante1083 Wanting to defend your country and people is not a bigger cause? During Erwin's time he didn't need to be as brutal as Floch. Both of them were willing to achieve victory no matter the cause. Erwin never saw the outside world and how dangerous it was.
That goes also for all of you dumbasses that apparently don't know how to read. And those claiming anyways that Floch had such good intentions, maybe he had? or maybe he was just as thirsty of seeing himself at the top of his newly funded dictatorship, just like the assholes that governed Paradis under the secret command of the Reiss. He tried to be Hitler, but was the lackey of Eren. Don't get me wrong, he was indeed an important part of Erens plan, but once again for all the ones that cheer how a great person he was and such an inspiring leader, let us not forget he was initially an accomplice of how Zeke poisoned half of the military to control those he couldn't coerce into becoming the Jagger mafia.
Im not even taking sides. But you can see that there were people, countries that weren't Paradis enemies were targeted by them all just because they had the power and decided to use it to prove once again why the eldians should have gone extint.
I think floch is the only one who took Erwin's last speech to heart .
He gave meaning to both captain Erwin's life and also to Hitch's boyfriend life by assimilating their souls within.
Well considering he was 1 of the 2 people who stayed alive after hearing it... lol
@@thelegacyofgaming2928only one, Levi didn't hear the speech
He was just an ordinary soldier with no Ackerman qualities yet managed to go against the titan shifters and the scout commander and almost won if not for that aimbot girl. You just can't deny he was badass till the end
I prefer morality over badassary
@@LymLevolveon your choice to make
@@LymLevolveon welp you failed both. Morally it is right to crush out what basically amounts to being a bunch of Nazi Germanys. By your logic... we wouldn’t and shouldn’t have invaded Germany during WW2. Because it would have killed a lotta people.
Eren is morally right to crush the world for his friends and country. He’d be morally wrong to let them kill them all because ultimately there are more people on their side... you’re ignorant.
@@LymLevolveon btw before you go crying they weren’t all bad...
They watched for centuries what basically amounted to being the Holocaust happen to Eldians and accepted it... yes they are all bad...
There being a few good people doesn’t mean Eren shouldn’t absolutely destroy everyone outside the walls.
@@LymLevolveon Imagine taking a moral grandstand in AOT. No. This is a kill or be killed war far past the point of negotiation.
He gave EVERYTHING he had in his heart for the sake of Paradis but the cringevengers' plot armor was too tough even for such a hero.
Even Floch couldn't dodge Gabi's aimbot.
@@HyakuJuu01300 first Sasha, then Eren, now Floch
The fact that Floch lack's plot armor (at most, we could say he had it when he was the survivor of Zeke's rocks, but that doesn't give him powers or any real advantage, he's just a human that that went from some background char to what he is now) , yet he manages to rally so many eldians to take down a corrupt gov that wasn't doing shit, just makes him all the more endearing.
This man, was literally your average joe recruit, was scared shitless to die as you'd expect most of people to in his situation, was indeed lucky, yet he took it upon himself to do what was needed to both save Eldia & not let the deaths of Erwin & the rest of his fellows in arms that died that day (and beyond), be meaningless. Without any OP Ackerman blood, without any titan powers, without being born in wealth, he achieved all this - and it makes a lot of sense why too, it's not just a side char underdog story that manages to rise due to plot armor.
@@ManlyTear thank you man
Plot armor lol So its make sense for yall the bunch of rookies can take the top scout and warriors with ackraman lol what a joke
With a heavy heart, we bid farewell to our dearest King Floch. ALL HAIL KING FLOCH GLORY TO KING FLOCH SHINZOU WO SASAGEYO!!!
@GOJO bruh don't spoil
Shinzou wo sasageyooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shinzou wo sasageyoooo !
SHINZOU SASAGEYO
😹
Floch is my favorite character since s3, Can't describe how much I stan this man
Here you can watch his most memorable moments: th-cam.com/video/ToEMjlmDu_g/w-d-xo.html
That's very fucked up, you know?
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 who the f cares about your opinion, the whole snk fandom is full of teen brain ppl, he's popular in Japan and that's enough, cry harder since he was proven at the end of Manga when eldia was destroyed and drown in a sea of blood, your fav traitor
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 and its way more fucked up for u to understand why he and we all stan floch !
@@desiconvicted Cause y'all are mentally ill.
floch was following eren plan to use zeke to destroy the world, he was just acting like eren was, pure legend
RIP Floch, you were right all along. If Eren is stopped, Paradis will drown in a sea of blood. Rest easy, King. You did the right thing.
yeagerist logic = kill everyone who isnt paradis eldian and who you hate cuz fuck only attacking the military. lets kill the innocent cuz they are "the enemy"
marley/world offficals logic = kill every eldian devil cuz they did the same to us and can turn into titans and destroy the entire world. lets kill the innocent cuz they are "the enemy"
What happened later spoiler
Was what he feared
he’s still alive, later on he blow up the engine just before take off
@@jean-pierrebenzenique always the weebs that ruin shit
He is alive btw lol
"please dont go, everyone on the island, will be killed... our devil is our only hope..."man, the fact that his last words were right even, hurts me
-Armin (indirectly and not by his choice) took Erwin's life
-Armin was hesitant and indecisive
-Armin was also unable to inspire
-Armin was only against the rumbling because of Annie wanting to meet her dad.
-Absent in major events except for turning into colossal titan, which anyone could have done.
-Floch carried Erwin's body and made good arguments on why he should be chosen over Armin.
-Floch was able to step up from a coward and had everything planned out (even tho things didn't go accordingly)
-Floch made sure the yeagerists followed through with his plan.
-Was a major character behind major events and stayed loyal through the end.
KING FLOCH >>>> traitors
Kinda agree with your point but with no armin humanity would have been defeated at the battle of trost, battle of wall maria, and armin was against the rumbling b4 he even knew hat annie wanted. Also armin came up with the battle plan to save eren from liberio, ultimately they barely lost any soldiers in that battle and they crushed the marleyan military. Armin isn’t a fighter but a strategist, u have to be both to be a commander tho imo so he isn’t right for the role but he is still is irreplacable. Idk if u read the manga so i won’t go longer but he is also crucial later on
@@mikoajh2747 Both of Wall Maria and Trost happened before the timeskip. Before Erwin died. And really all Armin did in those was state the obvious. Ever other character is constantly made dumber around him so he can seem smart. If Erwin was the colossal he would've handle Liberio even better than Armin did. And really All Armin did was blow up the port.
Since you've read the manga:
MAJOR spoilers obv
He is "crucial" later on? In what way? Killing Eren and dooming Paradis? If Erwin was chosen instead he wouldn't have killed Eren from saving the island. Shit, Eren wouldn't have even needed to rumble because Erwin would've found another way, unlike Hange and Armin who had no solutions.
@@slendrfrut erwin wasn’t there during the battle of trost and no one rly figured out that reiner was in the walls during the beggining of wall maria battle. Liberio couldn’t have been handled better, the battle went pretty much perfectly even with the slight annoyances that happened because of pieck and porco getting out of the hole but that was necessarcy to eat the war hammer titan
Manga Spoilers:
I don’t see erwin convincing zeke to help every1 save the world from the rumbling which was littearaly the turning point of the battle
@@mikoajh2747 Exactly. Somehow no one else thought that they could be in the walls. Somehow no one saw the ash from the fire on the wall. Somehow no one else saw the camp site. And like the genius he is "there were 3 cups, so there must've been at least 3 people." Damn Armin, you're so smart.
How could Liberio NOT have been handled better. Being even on both sides is not the sign of a well handled battle lmao. If it was Erwin it'd be a one sided battle with Marley completely losing. Marley had no idea they'd attack, that should've been used against them better.
But regardless of that the biggest reason it would've been handle better is because it WOULDN'T have needed to happen. Eren stayed in Marley because no one was figured out a solution to them wanting to genocide Paradis. Erwin would've found a solution. Even if that was to go to war. They wouldn't need to have risked everything to retrieve Eren.
MANGA SPOILERS:
Please explain to me why Armin needed to convince Zeke to "save the world" from the rumbling? Why did ZEKE need to be convinced that he should do something about Eren killing the outside world? That makes absolutely no sense and is further proof that everyone is made to be an idiot around Armin just so he can seem smart.
Armin: The fake successor of Erwin who didn't do shit after getting power.
Floch: The true successor of Erwin who without any special powers or blood took on best of the best and dedicated his heart for his goal
@@metal_fusion I can’t agree more
King Floch >>>>Circus Alliance...hypocrites
Armin turned from top 3 to biggest disappointment real quick
Armin solos
He is coward
Hange said Eren plan is good but she cant handle it morally.
You know who could.
You know someone who threw his humanity to save his people.
He said "when you get emotional, let someone else make the decision"
Someone who became the Devil and killed his own people to save his people.
I hope there was someone like that.
Floch deserved to have Erwin's theme playing.
Flock deserved nothing. He killed and threatened people from his own country with a smile on his face.
@@Bidooffan76 So because Mikasa did not smile when she shish kebobed her own people its perfectly okay?
@@mosesoftheblock2311 yeah sure anyways what are your thoughts on penguin bone morrow?
True
Erwin may not have killed everyone outside the walls but he would have never betrayed his own people like armin
Are u kidding me
@@cenevregundi i am not kidding, because in s3 part 2 of aot , when levi had to make the choice, eren said armin will save humanity and play the role of shit avengers.that means Erwin won't , he would have just been more aggressive and smart version of current floch.
You should not open your when you don't no nothing about even so Erwin always took gamble and make sure paradise will free from the never-ending cycle of hate.
@@PrinceKumar-oy3kd yes he might actually do the same as eren. In s1 ep23 erwin sacrificed ppl inside walls to capture annie
@@mentally-stable-human first of all Eren did what he did because the scouts failed, and scouts wouldn't fail if Erwin was alive. Erwin would do the most logical thing that the both party couldn't do but conditions is that Historia or other Titan Shifters need to live like a livestock which Eren don't want. Also Eren never meant in S3 p2 that Erwin won't be among the avengers, infact he knew nothing about it, he was just comparing himself with Armin, not Armin with Erwin. And no version of Floch would be Erwin, Erwin is just a complete different breed. In Ep23, he didn't sacrifice rather he had two more backup plans to capture Annie which both failed due to lack of information about Annie. Erwin knows the difference between threat, hatred, fear which Yeagerist couldn't, infact Yeagerist wouldn't even born if Erwin was alive. Here's the video where Erwin's character was potrayed perfectly
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Erwin and Floch. Two Joestars shared the same dream and goals. it runs in the family.
Is that a reference?
They both protect Eren, in order to protect Paradis.
@@ShiroTeri lmao do you really think erwin would be turned into a titan? Cause he is way to intelligent for that besides he will already find out about what eren is planning because unlike others who became braindead erwin won't become one
But then Eren took a shit in their legacies.
@@lolnice8989 nah
@@Ryuk____ Lol yeah he did by leaving Paradis's fate up to chance in the ending. And it ended up with the eldians getting bombed. Eren becoming soft now was an insult to the efforts of Floch and the Jaegerists to support him. If the Jaegerists would have known that it would end up like this, they would never have supported Eren. Of course they didn't know Eren would screw everything up, so basically they fought and died for nothing.
The ending proves that Eren didn't care about the Jaegerists; he only cared about himself and his lust for Mikasa. What a clown. Blatant disrespect to the legacy of the Survey Corps. Reiner was right. Eren is the one person on earth who should never have the founder.
Floch is the most realistic character in final episodes, this "world saving" people are only found in superhero shows or in tv
Ctfu imagine rooting for people who want to commit genocide your a disgrace and sorry excuse for a human being just like Floch and whoever supports his bullshit your the one who is being unrealistic moron
Actually Jean had more realism as a character in the whole series
@@iftie6 he still allowed Eldia to be bombed...
@@GrimReaper-qp6fv Nope, he did what Scouts was supposed to do. Also he wasn't even alive, not his fault if future Paradise looks for trouble
@@iftie6 what? Marley attacks Eldia when they were isolation, but when they start feeling the heat they beg for surrender but that action angers the world and wants Paradis to be bathed in blood.
Jean allowed Eldia to perish with all the souls lost, purely for his and the rest of the alliances ego. A scout would fight for the nation, their people, their homes and loved ones not people who want them dead.
Floch truly is the best character
Actually Jean, Zeke, Reiner were more well written character in the series compare to Floch
@@iftie6 pretty good build up for a side character though
Erwin was better
@@iftie6 he had the best buildup in my opinion. those guys have been around much longer but floch in only this half of the season and a few appearances really has shown huge development and character.
@@iftie6🤓
Never has ever peaked the level of badassery of erwin yelling "advance" while being carried off by a titan for me
It is sad that they give him less protagonism than he deserved because otherwise people would love him more than the "alliance". Truly underrated character.
Those bootleg avengers are probably regretting this decision when paradis are getting destroyed by literal nukes after eren dies 💀
Fr,Chad floch knew everything years and years before
why would they regret? They did what Eren wanted them to do, Eren wanted his friends to be the "new" Tybur, he knew that the hatred would not totally disappear, it would only disappear for about 20 thousand years and then will be back when no one remembers what happened. By that time all his friends had been dead for millennia so he no longer cared what happened to his people, that possibly with natural evolution they were no longer even "his people"
@@nekolare destruction of paradise was shortly after mikasas death so roughly 50-60 years, only in the anime it was millenia
@@thestruggler776The anime is the canon version.And even in the manga,it's still many years after his friends die.And the whole point of the show is the cycle of hartred and war,even if all the world was whiped out,Eldians would be fighting themselves.
I'll admit that I hated Floch when I was reading the manga as it came out. But after that atrocious ending and the extra chapter, my eyes opened to the absolute chadness of Floch.
So, I definitely understand why anime onlies hate Floch right now. If AOE doesn't happen and they adapt the manga without any changes, people are gonna understand my man's viewpoint.
Ah Yes, Attack on Eren. Love that Anime
Eren was right, Floch was right, the Yeagerists were right.
Exactly. If the ending was more peaceful, I don't think any of us would be praising Floch for being right, but for being a relatable villain. Instead, we got this shit ending and now all of us are being compelled to put this guy on a pedestal. Those who don't are probably just coping with the ending and trying to justify Armin's mistakes as much as they can so that they can ignore how bad the series actually became. Are these really the final thoughts you wanted to leave with us Isayama? Because if this wasn't your intention, that only proves further how bad your writing was in the end.
Yea & the thing is, when looking at it in restrospective or better yet, a cause & effect scenario which some chars that are level-headed enough would be able to figure out ahead of time - like Floch - , everything becomes that much more infuriating. When Jean literally asks Hange what'll happen to Paradis after, and even tho' she knows VERY WELL what's the most likely option since she herself has visited other Marley and witnessed how the rest of the world sees Eldians even in that conference that was shown in the last ep in the flashback , the answer she gave was something along the lines of "we'll have a few more years..." that's when you know someone is making decisions based on some ideology with no proper means of achieving it, rather than the logical outcome.
Wtf do you mean heat him.
Most anime watchers love floch
Honestly, I first thought of Floch as a throw away character with some weird hair back in season 3, but when he talked about Erwin and how they needed a devil like Erwin, I started to like him. Then at the Ceremony when he told Hitch the truth and called out the surviving scouts for their decisions on whether to choose Erwin or Armin, I liked him even more. The season 4 comes along and I start questioning my morality, would I side with Eren and Floch who wanted to destroy the world or would I choose the moral high ground and protect the world, I realized Floch was the devil Erwin was, and now with these last few episodes, I know Floch is the Patriotic Devil of the Story. He dedicated his heart to the cause and fought for Eldia to the very end, he fought for his people and understood that if they failed, then Eldia would fall. He led his soldiers to their deaths and nearly single-handedly won the war with his sacrificial charge. This man is the real devil and one of the greatest characters(IMO). A legend.
He's the real king
Fucking traitors don't deserve to be Eren's Friends
W
Shoutout to Jotaro and Giorno for voicing Erwin and Floch
I genuinely think out of anyone’s plans. Floch and Eren have the most realistic and solid one. Every other one is inconsistent and leads to suffering spanning decades to centuries. While theirs is a quick and effective end with the island being saved.
Even Hange, the smartest or second smartest character in the show admits that Eren is right. She just refuses because she cannot bare it morally. Which honestly in actuality is selfish which hits on another theme people seem to miss. Eren isn’t the bad guy.
People keep talking about Erens selfishness meanwhile the “protagonists” are selfish enough to slaughter their old friends and murder their leaders, dooming the island and everyone who lives there to eventual invasion from the outside world. all because they are doing what is clearly the only real option, because they cannot morally stomach the rumbling. That is true selfishness. Dooming their old friends and family to die from the outside world that in every other plan would attack paradise anyways...
When Zeke's plan sounds good in comparison to theirs, you know they are in the wrong.
it's quite sad Floch and Eren didn't have someone like Erwin. they can't convince Paradis Island's citizen to agree on their beliefs.
if they can convince Paradis Island people that what they do is right, they will avoid so many internal bloodshed. they just use word of hate and fear to motivate people, not like how Dot Pixis, Erwin, and Armin did to motivate and convincing people, through courage speech and charisma.
You can't expect all people of Eldia within Island to agree on a silent maniac killer, remember, Eren never proclaimed himself as king or ruler, and never talk to Paradis people, and suddenly (BAM!), centipede titan goes out there to kill everyone.
how Armin's team fight for what morally's right, I think it's not selfish. if Eldian throw away what's morally right, they will develop backwards to their old Eldian days, where they enslave people and kill people easily even if it's their own race.
so bloodshed was inevitable, and Floch never interested in having a collab with protagonist, Floch don't have an Ackerman friends, and his dad (Eren) leaves him on a trip to other country, he simply lost to a 100x stronger team...
Astute observation
Oh cmon. You can accept that eren’s plan is bad and still accept that its the only actual right way. Its morally wrong but logically right. You don’t have to turn hange into selfishness when she’s kinda right.
@@uenoyamakamishiro7646 it is selfish. It can be morally right and still selfish.
Hange interested that they were good people outside of their Island, and that if Eren was not stopped they would be doomed.
But by stopping him she would be dooming her own people, and she did it anyways out of her own moral sentimentality. Which is very selfish indeed
Chad Erwin and Based Floch are reunited in warrior heaven.
Erwin regrets when he read ending.
Floch too.
… Did the Alliance forget what Marley has done?
Edit: some people in the comments have been saying “Eldia did shit things” or “Eldia is in the wrong”. Fuck off with that shit, I’ll tell you why:
1. Marley and Eldia have been at each other’s throats for hundreds of years. The conflict won’t be ended by talking it out.
2. Marleys citizens (even fellow Eldians) are perfectly fine with their Eldians getting wiped out at Paradis and said Eldians being treated as second hand citizens. These are not good people. And even with what Eren said into account, that, “there are good people here too.”. I think that was just empathy from him realizing they’re getting their comeuppance, but I digress. They are more bad people than good by far, so a sacrifice is needed for Paradis’s safety.
3. Marley attacked first with child soldiers (who were brainwashed Eldian children) and expected no repercussions. The Rumbling is said repercussion.
4. The Alliance is actively sabotaging their own chance of survival, they are traitors. The Rumbling is the only way to survive, as Eren saw at Marley.
5. Why are you guys okay with ARMIN and the traitor gang pretending to be saviors of the world when they’re most likely the ones who’ve done the most scumbag behavior + murder and those actions dooming Eldians to Hell? Eldians will get slaughtered like pigs if the Rumbling fails.
In conclusion: fuck Marley, fuck the traitors, and Jeagerists solo the bozo Marleyans
For real tho
They aren't doing this for Marley
@@LUUUUU8 Yes they fucking are. They're doing it entirely so that Marley and the world that was against Paradis doesn't get flattened.
@@nobsdodgers nah they know that Marley is doomed even Magath knew it and still sacrificed himself..... If anything they're doing for the rest of the world, even if they hate them, you gotta respect that regardless of your opinions on Floch or the Yeaggerists
@@Iguana6841 no respect for traitors
When you realise that Eren and the Yeagerists are the good guys
They aren't lmao
@@Itach1Uch1ha says the guy with Itachi pfp
@@saeedijaz5108 kinda hypocritical he said that huh?
@@Itach1Uch1ha Bro you're *I T A C H I* surely you agree with that.
@@Itach1Uch1ha and you a fan of itachi ☹️
Did I ever hear Armin make that kind of speech? Hell no
Armin sounds like a b*tch, so it wouldn't have any effect
Betas can't do that
all he is doing post timeskip is just spraying cum into crystal annie
A paradox, considering Bertholdt made some banger fucking monologues, but I guess Armin only inherited his titan from what we see in Season 4.
Bertholdt still best Colossal Titan by the way.
@@hoovy_thepooter8489 damn, I finally found a based King Floch and chad Bertholdt enjoyer. Gimme a high five bro ✋
"You either die a hero (Erwin), or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain (Floch)"
Floch was the only person who survived that charge 🔥 and the only one who inherited Erwin Smith's will ❤️
giga chad Erwin
chad floch
beta armin
Mega chad eren
@@K41Z0. , Eren would have been a Mega Chad if he wasn’t beaten by talk no Justu, and him being killed by the talk no Justu skills that Armin has.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr nah
Armin probably the the most beta character I have ever seen.
Calling Armong beta would be a compliment. What a waste of screen time, that character is...
That's how you make a mob character into someone more likeable than some of the main casts 😀
King Floch ..the true successor of Erwin. hes arc was one of the best in animes, from a coward to absolutely taking control of the army of paradis
Meanwhile Erwin choosing Armin
@@cenevregundi Meanwhile:
Levi chooses an idiot..
Erwin didn’t choose anyone… is was Levi who choose Armin
@@BOLDmGAM3R But why??I mean yeah Levi wanted to free him from his suffering but he had a dream to see that damn basement and wanted to know about outside world and prove his father's theory true.This thing literally makes 0 sense to choose a kid with no experience and have no idea how to work like a commander.Yeah,Yams is a genius lol
@@Ashura658 I also don’t know why Levi pick armin over the commander… but I think is because of what Kenny say’s (everyone is drunk on something to keep them moving) and Levi asked Erwin what he’s gonna do after the basement he said he doesn’t know.. but levi overheard armin says he wanna explore the world and see the sea .. he thought well armin as a greater view then Erwin
If you ask me I’ll say this selfish reason.. that’s what floch say….
Only aimbot and plot Armor can kill floch and that Means something.
Savior Floch
@@metal_fusion and spoiler alert
Eren
@@Pqihtyieojn12 Ch 139 is disappointing but that doesn't mean you can ignore Eren's character until 138 ,, he is a real alpha male throughout the series until isayama decided to destroy his character to make him a simp
@@Light12187 isayama a real pos
I gotta be real. Floch is just the man who is trying to protect his country no matter what. And for the guys with "Rumbling is wrong". Here my answer: It's not right and not wrong either.
-Looking at Eren's respective: he also just wants to defend his country while the whole Marley just wants them to die. And if you only destroy Marley, other countries will try to destroy Eldia after that for that rumbling power. So he has to destroy it all
-Looking at other people's respective: Rumbling is genocide. It's not good as killing people is not good. So the gang is trying to stop this.
-At my respective: Eren and Eldian on Paradis has been suffering from the consequences although the old events had already passed for many many years. And you have already known, the present generation has absolutely nothing to do with taking the responsibility for the foul deeds that their ancestor once made. Yet the hate for Paradis is living still in the heart of many Marley and Eldian in Marley. Eren just sees no way to resolve this because that hate is too big. Ya know, violences breeds violences. But in the end, he has to choose this way.
This is the way
Was not expecting mgr at the end
Just for that MGR reference, I bend the knee.
In the end nobody is right and nobody is wrong. There's just a shit ton of shades of grey.
That's pretty much the world. There's nor good or bad. We only decide the good and bad based on the casualties.
-According to Lord Saladin-
Floch saw Erwin rush to the arms of death for the sake of everything they believed and he did the same. Respect and rest in peace, King.
1:17 cant watch this witout getting goosebumps and a tear in the eye such epicness should be illegal
Dude carrying the show
Annie carried the show
Strongest Cringevenger stan: 👶
Weakest Floch Appreciator: 💪
2 of the fastest Titan, 1 crazy scientist, and 1 living aimbot. And Floch nearly destroy that boat. Such an absolute chad
Floch’s a gangster. All he asked for was to understand the cause, and be given a chance to accept or refuse. And Eren told him, and Floch went along with it, and threw his life away, for what he believed and agreed with.
The curious thing is that they were both attacked in the shoulder and continued to live (I say this because Gaby's shot did not kill him, it only hit him in the shoulder and he fell into the water)
+ Spoil
Floch death is exactly the same as Erwin death too.
Is it just me or is there anyone else who saw an image of Erwin inside Floch during that speech at Port??😳😳😳
It’s just you, you are weird.
Armin just wanted to see the ocean. He never wanted to be erwin successor And in the final season and in the end he fails to do live up to the expectation. Armin just proves time and time again how he is the biggest buren to eldia, eren, and Erwin.
Without armin, Erwin, Levi with their squad will still get wiped out even if they managed to slay beast titan.
@@vogel2499 And without erwin, the bigger threat of the beast titan wouldn't have been taken out. The situation with Zeke was MUCHHH harder to solve than Reiner and B. Armins wits there were great but Erwin was just way more suitable to be brought back anyways. Levis worst decision in the entire anime.
He fought for his country and his people till last breath. King Floch 👑 He said the truth that Island will be destroyed if Eren fails.
Floch actually witnessed Erwin when he had gave up on his future for the sake of others. That’s what made him turn out to be the way he was in the final season. Crazy to think how relateable he actually is.
"It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave and the whole world will know I was right."
-Floch Forster
Based H man
Erwin,Zeke,Jean,Grisha,Floch,Historia,Hange,Reiner and Gabi.
Shingeki has taught me that the best shows dont need to rely on the main cast,sometimes the secondary and "side" characters are even better and more interesting than some of the main ones.
"Gabi"
Levi ?
Kenny too
Levi and Zeke only
I would have liked your comment but I didn't see Capt. Levi
The true hero 🔥🔥
Floch your alive !
floch thank god
Hail king flock
About that...
@@bigdawgcolton7610 sorry for the late respond I was busy tracking the traitors and yes I'm Alive 🤣
Floch really went from crybaby child to soloing the entire Titan Shifter team and actually fucking succeeding
It’s kinda cool how they used erwin’s first appearance ost in this scene
Floch is carrying the legacy of Erwin
The more i watch AOT final season, the more i like him. Now Floch one of my favourite character.
Words can't describe how much I have respect for the people who likes floch
All hail Erwin and Floch!
Zafer Eldianın
The fact is, even though Floch got injured, he attached to the ship underwater and then tried again
I really hated floch until i suddenly appreciated his character by the end. Dude had courage and determination to fight to the end.
In the end of season 3 , he already has the courage to die for people.
It would've been cool if Floch also had that moment when he feels the comrades that charged towards death with him and Erwin are watching him, wondering if their sacrifice had meaning
I decided that floch is my favorite character he truely love his nationality ❤❤❤
My favorite character in the show. Realistic
I don't know if he was really realistic. His motives to defend his country made sense bit I feel like he was way to happy throughout. He would be holding people hostage and have a smile on his face. I just wish he had some more development as it felt weird to have him be a coward in season 3 and put of no where become better at using odm gear then all of the other veteran scouts and being completely fearless and desensitized.
A man who faced death head on
Fears no death anymore
Believes in his freedom
A great leader
Jean was better in terms of leadership. Floch's leadership is the reason why many comrades died without achieving anything tho Jean had experience that's why
@@iftie6 that's call plot armor "friends of main character" after time skip 4 years
@@quocbaonguyen2185 same goes for Floch
@@iftie6 Floch has good leadership and the proof is he is able to inspire others
@@iftie6 i dont think jean can inspire soldiers like floch and erwin did. i think he is just a goofy @ass chracter to fill the space lol
You might not like Floch, but you gotta respect him for his dedication and bravery
The thing is floch is fighting for his people and the traitors are ratting out their on people like Zeke the rat
Bro singlehandedly dodged the most op characters in aot, held Erwin's will, and is willing to defend his country no matter what, a true chad and a legend
Floch was the true hero
he was the only one who was right,he knew it before the others BEST CHARACTER OF THE WHOLE SHOW
Dogkasa still has no meaningful scenario or opinions except barking erehhh meanwhile floch just Side character had development!????
man floch held everything on his shoulders eren just gave floch the biggest mission of his life
commenting on every king floch video till i die. don't forget his name! shinzou sasageyo!
Floch and the Yeagerists are fighting to protect their home and countrymen. What are Armin, Mikasa and Hange fighting for exactly? What is their plan to save Eldia?? Eren even asked Hange if she has an alternative plan when he was imprisoned and she couldn’t answer him. None of them can come up with an alternative that suits their morals and conscience. Eren and the Yeagerists have the conviction to get their hands dirty for their beliefs, the Alliance are still twiddling their thumbs and hoping for the best.
That’s the problem with the alliance. Their moral obligations purely surround themselves in the present time. Sure, they can try for world-peace, but what then? How do they know that will work? How will they control foreign countries that are many times their size? They have no plans for the future. The rumbling wasn’t right, but it was necessary. I don’t know why people couldn’t understand that.
cringelliance is a joke
Floch is the type of person with lag and a bad computer who enters a game full of hackers and tryhards, even though he knows he won't be able to beat them or face them, he gives it his all, being hated and insulted by everyone in the chat, but never giving up 🥶
Muy basado, copia y pega esta verdad, FlochGOD es siempre lo mejor.
Erwin siempre será único, pero Floch se ha rifado y a sido el único aparte de Eren que no se dejó llevar por una alianza y mantuvo su posición.
"Floch, el verdadero sucesor de Erwin"
@@antonyluna2694 Ysi, pero nadie está listo para esa verdad, es algo que no quieren aceptar aún en 2022
Odian a Floch porque le decía sus verdades a la alianza, incluso el manga demuestra que Floch tenía razón.
El fandom no lo merece btw
@@diegosolis9337 Estoy seguro que si salvaban a Erwin el hubiera redoblado la apuesta en liberio, yendo él en persona a spawnear al titán colosal matando a TODO el liderazgo de Marley incluyendo a los guerreros
Imaginense odiar a Flochgod pero amar y justificar a muerte a Annie y Reiner
Floch, the successor of the goat, hating him in the beginning but as you get to know his resolution, you realize his greatness.
The traitors of eldia and don’t deserve a happy ending, they are not only helping the people who treated them like slaves and wanted to destroy them, but also killing their own people. Floch would have won if it wasn’t faze gabi and plot armor.
Your an idiot for even supporting Eren and Floch
Team Eren forever 💪Floch was the GOAT went out fighting for his people
Floch would have made out a real empire out of eldia even without the rumbling . Change my mind
Just tell me, how can someone not become brave after hearing that speech from Erwin, Floch is the true successor of Erwin.
You can hate Floch as much as you want, but you can't deny that he stood up for his ideals and protected his land until the end. No one can deny Floch's development, from being a pathetic soldier who preferred to sit and wait for his death rather than die fighting, to being the leader with courage and determination who protected Paradis with his life, resisting until the last moment.
Saviour of Paradis
My hatred for gabi grows every episode
The fact that floch came back just to destroy the airplane in the second last episode🗿
If floch, got that , Paradise have happily lived forever without any war peacefully...
With lastest episode Armin can't compare to Floch anymore .
Erwin's character and personality got divided in Armin with his intelligence and Floch with his leadership skills
only two people knew of Eren's plan, Historia and Floch
He was right when everyone driven by their emotions
For a character introduced at the end of season 3, flock went through so much development. He had the odds stacked against him in the end but never gave up. A true Elida Hero
King Floch supremacy
''I Floch has a dream to protect Eldia''
I started crying when I heard Erwin's charge theme with Floch.