in a case like this where you want a stiffer joystick but not too stiff then take the old spring out and just pull on it a little but make sure you pull on it evenly and that should do the trick
I took my joystick apart and a few parts fell out, and unfortunately I don't know which order the parts go in. they were the parts that the spring is supposed to go on top of.
Your Hori Hayabusa arcade stick controller is not a "Version 5". The letter "V" is short for the Vewlix (Pronounced "View-licks") arcade button layout.
Hello whats the best mod for hori hayabusa joystick, i can just replace the spring to 2lbs and octagobal gate or i need also add the KOWAL 1mm Oversize Actuator ?
Dude ! I have the same question ! I just bought those 3 items and I'll test on my Hrap 4 Kai next week; But since your comment is 4 month old, I think you have your answer
You CAN NOT use the Kowal actuator without the Kowal Octopus octagonal restrictor plate installed, as it wont clear the stock plate’s inner lip. I replaced the actuator and plate, but left the stock spring.
Hi the two sides of the spring are equals? Do you recommend Kowal oversize actuator to Hori Hayabusa. I want to put Kowal octogate+ 2lb Spring Sanwa+Kowal oversize actuactor
Thanks for watching. So this was years ago, but I still use this stick regularly and no mod has failed (except 2 hyyabusa silent buttons from years of what I would call extreme abuse. I am a lot rougher on my stick than i should be). From what I remember the spring rate is equal through the coils, so there is no 'right side up'. I never got the oversized actuators, but I considered them. The heavier spring was a personal choice, but the factory spring felt overwhelmed by the aluminum ball top. I installed a Kowal octogate shortly after the spring and have left it on since. I really enjoyed the middle ground it provided. It feels like how it looks, right in between a square and a circle. For me, that was exactly what i was looking for, but its definitely not for everyone. I was looking to make motion inputs feel more fluid while still having 8 distinct corners for accuracy. I still suck but it did make motion inputs feel a way I was happier with. This will all come down to personal preference, and what it is you are looking for with modifying a stick. Do keep in mind that no mod by itself is going to make you a better player (I wished for that when i first started playing in the genre). The heavier spring is going to give a much more positive feedback than the 1lb factory one that floats through the gate. The oversized actuators will pick up an input faster and you won't have to move the stick as much, but some have complained that they make players prone to fudging the inputs by accidently hitting the wrong actuator. The blue ball top still looks cool and I really enjoy the extra weight, but some would not. The silent buttons give absolutely no feedback to being pressed besides bottoming out, but my personal situation required quieter gaming sessions and I ended up enjoying their airy feeling. Every mod I have done to my stick is still on my stick 6 years later because I enjoy them and they still work like new. (besides those 2 buttons but they go through a lot and are most likely to fail first on a stick) Half the joy was using the mods, and the other half was taking a fightstick and modifying it with things i thought were better. I hope this long rant answered your questions.
I feel the same square is not for me and the spring factory hayabusa is too weak. Yes with oversize actuator sometimes hits some very hard but is not a fault, the hori edge buttons are very weak but working fine but feels so soft and i don´t like this feel I like joystick like Eurojoystick or Magstick that i put in wood arcade stick.
Hey not sure what you meant when talking about removing the balltop. do i not unscrew the top part(were the flathead goes) or am i just only trying to unscrew the balltop? it seems like the balltop is barely if at all coming loose am i doing something wrong?
I'm assuming that you have the original balltop on. That's ok, they are really tight from the factory. Here is the reason why you unscrew the balltop itself instead of the screwdriver: Inside the joystick is the actuator and all the fragile stuff sits. Turning the shaft instead of the balltop would put unnecessary wear on those parts.
VeNOM3099 So this is what I have been told and have read: Most any mod that you can do to a Sanwa JLF stick, you can do to a Hayabusa stick. When I ordered this spring from Focus Attack, I was told that any spring that would fit the JLF would also fit the Hayabusa
Somebody can help me? Does Hori RAP V for Xbox has the same components inside? As I saw in the comments bellow, I'm able to use Sanwa components, are you using the original actuator? Could I use some Sanwa actuators?
Tiago Carvalho the RAP V for XBox will be exactly the same as my stick. I am still using the original joystick, which is the Hayabusa. But yes, Sanwa parts like the JLF joystick and buttons will fit in the RAP V
Man sorry bothering you... just another one question, do you know whether I can change the original throw with seimitsu's throws? Will be necessary some mods for it, or it's gonna work fine like JLF?
this decision is 100% personal preference. there isn't any advantage in picking one over the other. the 4 lbs. spring (would like to try out) is going to be quite heavy, but you may prefer the extra feel from moving the stick. try them both out. hopefully this video helps you install whichever spring you try out.
I can give you a update the 4 pound spring makes the stick almost quite and you dont get that click that lets you know you made the correct movement. It takes away the feel of the movement and the sound. I think i will put the 2 pound spring back in because you got a stiffer stick but you also keep the audio cue and you can still feel the switch so you know you did your movement correctly. At this point i like the stiffness of the 4 pound switch but i dont like it at all that i can no longer feel or hear the switches.
I have the hori rap pro n hayabusa. I didn't like hayabusa joystick because it's too loose so I bought a semitsu joystick from arcadeshock (see link). They recommend me the seimitsu-ls-05-06-as which not only comes with the joystick but five different springs and I did buy it. The thing is the seimitsu is already a stiff joystick. Will I be needing those five different springs, because I like my joysticks stiff like korean battops, and this is my first time modding an arcade stick, I don't want to mess up. arcadeshock.com/collections/joysticks/products/seimitsu-ls-56-01-as-multi-tension-joystick
Beverly Hillbilly nah I got it like an your after I posted that comment. but yeah it was hard to get out. I was mostly scared to do it which is why I thought it was so hard.
those clips can be difficult to get out without damaging them if you haven't really dealt with them before. if you dont have a pocket screwdriver, eyeglass screwdrivers and small knives can also work (of course be careful). prying from the middle of the 'C' is the best way to get them out
The only thing i don't like about that fighting stick is the sound of the stick itself. After a while that clickityclickityclickity gets on my nerves, i need to replace it with a silent one.
in a case like this where you want a stiffer joystick but not too stiff then take the old spring out and just pull on it a little but make sure you pull on it evenly and that should do the trick
Just did this myself, was my first time modding a fightstick. Your vid was a good guide thanks.
not sure why you pulled the entire joystick out, all you needed to do was pop off the c-clip, swap springs, install c-clip and you are done.
it seems way easier to leave everything in place, but as a modding real noob I've seen the steps more clearly.
the stock hayabusa is waaay too loose :/
that tshirt is sick!
nice tutorial c:
skullgirls
Where can i find hayabusa spring ? i need one for my seimitsu ls-40-01
I took my joystick apart and a few parts fell out, and unfortunately I don't know which order the parts go in. they were the parts that the spring is supposed to go on top of.
Actuator then clip probably?
th-cam.com/video/-5Iq7Cq5vbg/w-d-xo.html
Your Hori Hayabusa arcade stick controller is not a "Version 5". The letter "V" is short for the Vewlix (Pronounced "View-licks") arcade button layout.
thanks for the tutorial! really helpful :)
Hello whats the best mod for hori hayabusa joystick, i can just replace the spring to 2lbs and octagobal gate or i need also add the KOWAL 1mm Oversize Actuator ?
Dude ! I have the same question ! I just bought those 3 items and I'll test on my Hrap 4 Kai next week;
But since your comment is 4 month old, I think you have your answer
You CAN NOT use the Kowal actuator without the Kowal Octopus octagonal restrictor plate installed, as it wont clear the stock plate’s inner lip. I replaced the actuator and plate, but left the stock spring.
Hi the two sides of the spring are equals? Do you recommend Kowal oversize actuator to Hori Hayabusa. I want to put Kowal octogate+ 2lb Spring Sanwa+Kowal oversize actuactor
Thanks for watching. So this was years ago, but I still use this stick regularly and no mod has failed (except 2 hyyabusa silent buttons from years of what I would call extreme abuse. I am a lot rougher on my stick than i should be). From what I remember the spring rate is equal through the coils, so there is no 'right side up'. I never got the oversized actuators, but I considered them. The heavier spring was a personal choice, but the factory spring felt overwhelmed by the aluminum ball top. I installed a Kowal octogate shortly after the spring and have left it on since. I really enjoyed the middle ground it provided. It feels like how it looks, right in between a square and a circle. For me, that was exactly what i was looking for, but its definitely not for everyone. I was looking to make motion inputs feel more fluid while still having 8 distinct corners for accuracy. I still suck but it did make motion inputs feel a way I was happier with.
This will all come down to personal preference, and what it is you are looking for with modifying a stick. Do keep in mind that no mod by itself is going to make you a better player (I wished for that when i first started playing in the genre). The heavier spring is going to give a much more positive feedback than the 1lb factory one that floats through the gate. The oversized actuators will pick up an input faster and you won't have to move the stick as much, but some have complained that they make players prone to fudging the inputs by accidently hitting the wrong actuator. The blue ball top still looks cool and I really enjoy the extra weight, but some would not. The silent buttons give absolutely no feedback to being pressed besides bottoming out, but my personal situation required quieter gaming sessions and I ended up enjoying their airy feeling.
Every mod I have done to my stick is still on my stick 6 years later because I enjoy them and they still work like new. (besides those 2 buttons but they go through a lot and are most likely to fail first on a stick) Half the joy was using the mods, and the other half was taking a fightstick and modifying it with things i thought were better. I hope this long rant answered your questions.
I feel the same square is not for me and the spring factory hayabusa is too weak. Yes with oversize actuator sometimes hits some very hard but is not a fault, the hori edge buttons are very weak but working fine but feels so soft and i don´t like this feel
I like joystick like Eurojoystick or Magstick that i put in wood arcade stick.
Where can I purchase a heavier spring for my Hori RAP 4 Arcade Stick?
arcade shock
what country are you from
Hey not sure what you meant when talking about removing the balltop. do i not unscrew the top part(were the flathead goes) or am i just only trying to unscrew the balltop? it seems like the balltop is barely if at all coming loose am i doing something wrong?
I'm assuming that you have the original balltop on. That's ok, they are really tight from the factory. Here is the reason why you unscrew the balltop itself instead of the screwdriver: Inside the joystick is the actuator and all the fragile stuff sits. Turning the shaft instead of the balltop would put unnecessary wear on those parts.
Do I need to remove the stick entirely if all I wanna do is change the gate and the balltop?
No
What is the name of the spring model you're using? Can I just replace it with any type of spring or does it have to be a specific one for this stick?
VeNOM3099 So this is what I have been told and have read: Most any mod that you can do to a Sanwa JLF stick, you can do to a Hayabusa stick. When I ordered this spring from Focus Attack, I was told that any spring that would fit the JLF would also fit the Hayabusa
Somebody can help me? Does Hori RAP V for Xbox has the same components inside?
As I saw in the comments bellow, I'm able to use Sanwa components, are you using the original actuator? Could I use some Sanwa actuators?
Tiago Carvalho the RAP V for XBox will be exactly the same as my stick. I am still using the original joystick, which is the Hayabusa. But yes, Sanwa parts like the JLF joystick and buttons will fit in the RAP V
Man sorry bothering you... just another one question, do you know whether I can change the original throw with seimitsu's throws? Will be necessary some mods for it, or it's gonna work fine like JLF?
What does a heavier spring do?
more force needed to push joystick and quicker neutral.
A 2lb works great
2lb or 6lb IS more heavier ?
i got the 2 pound spring and i got a 4 pound spring in the mail which feels better?
this decision is 100% personal preference. there isn't any advantage in picking one over the other. the 4 lbs. spring (would like to try out) is going to be quite heavy, but you may prefer the extra feel from moving the stick. try them both out. hopefully this video helps you install whichever spring you try out.
I can give you a update the 4 pound spring makes the stick almost quite and you dont get that click that lets you know you made the correct movement. It takes away the feel of the movement and the sound. I think i will put the 2 pound spring back in because you got a stiffer stick but you also keep the audio cue and you can still feel the switch so you know you did your movement correctly. At this point i like the stiffness of the 4 pound switch but i dont like it at all that i can no longer feel or hear the switches.
Will this process applicable for hori rap pro N ?
Gaurav Singh it should be. I am not 100% sure, but it should be exactly the same
same, only the Haya Silent is way different
I have the hori rap pro n hayabusa. I didn't like hayabusa joystick because it's too loose so I bought a semitsu joystick from arcadeshock (see link). They recommend me the seimitsu-ls-05-06-as which not only comes with the joystick but five different springs and I did buy it. The thing is the seimitsu is already a stiff joystick. Will I be needing those five different springs, because I like my joysticks stiff like korean battops, and this is my first time modding an arcade stick, I don't want to mess up.
arcadeshock.com/collections/joysticks/products/seimitsu-ls-56-01-as-multi-tension-joystick
will the sanwa spring fit?
Deltron310 as far as I know any brand of joystick spring will fit
I can't remove that c clip.
That blasian over there it's in there very tightly, which is what t is designed to do. Are you still having trouble?
Beverly Hillbilly nah I got it like an your after I posted that comment. but yeah it was hard to get out. I was mostly scared to do it which is why I thought it was so hard.
i need your help dood
I can't take out the dam c clip. :( I'll just buy a Sanwa lever.
those clips can be difficult to get out without damaging them if you haven't really dealt with them before. if you dont have a pocket screwdriver, eyeglass screwdrivers and small knives can also work (of course be careful). prying from the middle of the 'C' is the best way to get them out
Fuck!! I lost my c Clio even though you warned me :(. It went flying in the supply closet and I can’t find it :(
*C-clip
The only thing i don't like about that fighting stick is the sound of the stick itself. After a while that clickityclickityclickity gets on my nerves, i need to replace it with a silent one.
Bro, you don't need to remove the entire joystick body to change the spring LMAO
nope. you don't. I just found it easier to have only the joystick to mess with
Hayabusa stick sucks
i hope giving a negative comment made your day better
Greetings, Hayabusa stick.