About Nekros and desecrating body parts, there is one thing you can use to guarantee that you will slash the enemy in half. Ripkas. If you use Amalgam Ripkas True Steel mod you have 100% chance to cut enemies in half when they die. The best part is that you DONT need to kill them with Ripkas in particular. You just need to equip them with the mod and it will work with whatever weapon you have, as long as you have Ripkas in your loadout.
Its still not really 100%. Sometimes other kill animations still sneak trough and enemy doesnt get dismembered, but it still helps a lot and gives more freedom with guns.
It's best to eq ripkas on warframe the nekros is farming with. Warframe abilities with Ripkas also cut in half so u can have a khora or hydroid cutting enemies for Nekros while farming.
Another neat use for Ivara’s pickpocketing is for doing the Riven challenge for completing a Survival mission without killing anything since you can steal a few extra life support charges while stealthing. EDIT: Originally said it was a Nightwave challenge, but it's actually a potential Riven challenge.
I just did that few hours ago with two secondary riven mod challanges, combined with Carrier Sentinel with Looter mod to break the crates and Vacuum the loot around you without killing enemies, it becomes a piece of cake challenge.
Awesome vid! Some things i might add. 1. 4:30 the tentacles are actively move to grab enemies since the rework! 2. You cant petrify ragdolled enemies, soo Ore Gaze isnt too useful on Khora/Hydroid.
Dont forget to turn Gore On for multiple bodies from slash Ivara can steal vomvalist cores for the lures, making her fill them super quick, as if your steal is fast enough, you can steal from physical and phantom form before they are absorbed by the lures.
@@noahedenborg4221that mans you fill the lure with one vomvalyst not 3, so make capturing the teralyst ultra fast since you need a full lure to avoid it teleporting.
As always, great content Gentlesir. It sounds as though you’re reinvigorated about your work. Or at least enjoying yourself more. So pleasing to hear the change in your voice! :)
From what I understand, Chesa Kubrow's Retrieve ability is effectively Desecrate for your companion. The cog in *all* of these camps is another source of the mentioned Monkey Luck effect, Smeeta Kavat's Charm ........ Good Smeeta RNG can get so outrageous that many folk will have a hard time justifying any substitution, even after the recent companion buffs. I had been experimenting with using a Retrieve Chesa with other looting builds for a little while but in the end I can't pry myself away from the Smeeta Doubler (potentially quadrupler !!) roulette.
If the enemies in strangle dome die to outright to any damage (including slash, even if the enemy is dismembered) nekros only gets one corpse to work with. The emeny needs to die to the damage over time effect of slash for nekros to desecrate twice
@vendetta9399 Nekros can only get the dismembered corpse the died in strangle dome to give another drop (the one from the broken body) if the corpse is dismembered by a slash damage over time proc, not if killed just by the initial slash damage upfront
I think the only time I've farmed w/ Atlas & Ivara was when Shedu came out. Also shutout to the OG days when I didn't have enough credits for index so I'd sit there in dark sector survivals using Chroma's effigy to farm them.
I never thought of making our spooky boy turn stuff into stone. That's my next build, he'll always be my favourite farmer. Use the MIGHTY SEER for 200% extra drop chance
we usually just Khora, then anyone that wants to tag along can bring a support frame like wisp, nekros whatever and then they just dont attack, sometimes they might prime mobs tho. its pretty relaxed.
Equilibrium was recently changed so it consumed health orbs even when you're at maximum health. Same goes for energy orbs and energy. With that in mind Despoil is actually useless mod as long as you don't completely dry out your energy pool. This is easy to avoid with all the energy management options we have today. One hindrance is that Nekros has fairly low energy pool but one or two blue archon shards can fix that.
Glad to know that you're enjoying yourself a lot more when it comes to these videos, Hellmanz Or at least ya seem to be, anyway Because I remember when you made that video, "We need to talk," a little while back, and what you were talking about in there So I'm glad that you seem to be feeling a lot better than you were at that time. But don't be afraid to take some time off to take care of yourself, alright boss? Good people like you don't come around very often, as sad as that is to say. Either way, I hope to see ya on the flipside, and I hope ya have a good day/night, whatever time it is for ya over there. Take care, boss.
Whenever I needed to farm anything, I used Nekros with petrify, using Proboscis Cernos to group enemies. I prefer Nekros over the others because the augment feels essential to his kit, the others feel more like a flex slot, that's why a never used the Khora or Hydroid for farming
Notable mention: Hydroid is 100% better than any other loot frame for farming oxium because the drones are guaranteed to drop oxium so the tentacles guarantee they drop more (:
@@lyberatis yeah well u also need to kill said drones or have the tentcles kill em which low lvls ez but sp where u most likely want to be farming on they dont khora jsut does it more consistantly
As a Nekros fan, it feels like every other Khora player gets mad at me for wanting to actually play the game rather than afking in a corner for 30 minutes while they use whipclaw to kill exclusively enemies caught by their dome. Doubly so if I feel like using anything other than a slash melee. This isn't even steel path btw. Meanwhile our other squad members were low MRs playing random frames and having no consideration for their farming method either, but they only seem to care about the slightly off meta Nekros. And then they also complain when I leave after 10 minutes of their complaining.
5:58 i used this method for unlocking a riven. i had to do a survival missions without unaliving anything. so this gave me a supply of life support charges
I heard that Ore Gaze affects the petrifying trail from Path of Statues. Is this true? Cuz if it is, that means you can run the Atlas augment that makes Landslide free at high rubble and not worry about efficiency.
Nekros is literally the epitome of idle gaming: just slap-n-forget. Yes, he doesn't loot that much and is very squishy, but if you just want to play games and test out weapons while passively farming, he's the way to go. Less stressful and casual-friendly. Then, if you really want to go ham on farming, that's the only time you either choose tentacles or bdsm, whichever your mood of kink is.
He's far from squishy with a Despoil + Equilibrium + Health Conversion setup. Granted that's a major investment and not necessary, but if you really want to turn your brain off, making Nekros basically immortal is quite helpful 😂
After building a stat stick for Khora so that I could use her for farming, I had wondered that exact question. Perfect timing. My go to has always been Nekros, always felt like I got more drops and more consistent. I can also just turn off my brain and melee away.
All the youtubers are trying to misinform us, the best farming ability is obviously nezha's firewalker. As, if I am to farm an item for hour I might as well not be to only one suffering terribly.
I use different warframes depending on the situation. BTW, DE made it so you can only get one instance of additional loot from a dead body (well except the is the whole Nekros and multiple body parts thing) So their abilities don’t stack loot. The only one that does still takes advantage this is Ivara because she’s not looting a dead body just picking pockets of the living.
Ignore this other person. Go give it a shot, test some numbers and have some fun. Currently the wiki says it doesn't but there are videos that say it does, so who knows.
Nekros all the way for me when it comes to farming. Its easier for me to work with and I can focus on just killing or sticking with the squad. No placement problems . No wait until it touches something. Just click, shoot, and loot.
There are a couple more farm abilities, pet mods. Smeeta Kavats have a chance to bless drops picked up to be doubled for a long duration and Chesa Kubrows can periodically loot enemies similar to Nekros desecrate. They are more like a side to a main course, they make the farm better but they aren't needed to just regularly farm.
khora has a synergy for this. hit 1 enemy with whipclaw, others gets their share. for other players, they build her small radius for enough to hit with aoe
@@noahedenborg4221 its mostly when there's Khora in my team. If i am the khora i just don't want to use the strangledome, dunno why i just don't like the ability but it is a good ability
When i play solo, Hydroid all the way. When i play with friends, i like to play khora and have a friend play vauban. This works great as the flechette orbs shoot in all directions. Great video.
1 more very late note for Nekros. Amalgam Ripkas. If you didn't know, there is an amalgam mod for the Ripkas that drops from the Ropalolyst (wisp farm) which adds a 100% "Gore chance" to YOUR ENTIRE LOADOUT. That "Gore chance" is the chance for a corpse to be cut apart on death. If you are usually the dps/nuker of a farming squad, do your group(s) a favor and equip the Ripkas with this mod. It will sky rocket your drops given you use an ability that "targets torsos". (Good examples include Hydroid's tentacle swarm, Khora's strangle dome, Mag's Pull, and even Volt's Discharge.)
Ivara is great for toroid farm. I got all of Baruuk's blueprints from the circuit, then pickpocketed a few of each toroid in less than an hour, and tadaa, I won't have to fluff about with Vox Solaris.
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"as long as your allies aren't too far apart"
Me with a 60m desecrate nekros: unlikely.
About Nekros and desecrating body parts, there is one thing you can use to guarantee that you will slash the enemy in half. Ripkas.
If you use Amalgam Ripkas True Steel mod you have 100% chance to cut enemies in half when they die. The best part is that you DONT need to kill them with Ripkas in particular. You just need to equip them with the mod and it will work with whatever weapon you have, as long as you have Ripkas in your loadout.
Yes! I was gonna say the same. I usually keep Ripkas on most of the time just to have that 100% Gore.
Was gonna say that exactly, with the note that with the Amalgam mod it's possible to turn one enemy into 3-4 corpses for Desecration
Its still not really 100%. Sometimes other kill animations still sneak trough and enemy doesnt get dismembered, but it still helps a lot and gives more freedom with guns.
It's best to eq ripkas on warframe the nekros is farming with. Warframe abilities with Ripkas also cut in half so u can have a khora or hydroid cutting enemies for Nekros while farming.
Khora and hydroid mains aruging meanwhile Nekros is somewhere screeching *BOO* and pulling grineer bombards apart like a rack of ribs.
Him and Grendel get along I see
You forgot about chesa kubrow. It's not warframe ability but it can be synergized with almost everything else.
Alas! Chesa always loses to Smeeta kavat, because multiplicative 2x loot is insane.
Another neat use for Ivara’s pickpocketing is for doing the Riven challenge for completing a Survival mission without killing anything since you can steal a few extra life support charges while stealthing.
EDIT: Originally said it was a Nightwave challenge, but it's actually a potential Riven challenge.
I think they did, I've gotten rank 50+ on the past 3 nightwaves and I've never seen that requirement, only one for surviving 20 minutes
I don't remember that in any nightwaves. But I know it's a riven challenge and I do exactly that.
@@celestialkitsune I think you're right, I remember it being a riven challenge rather than a nightwave!
I just did that few hours ago with two secondary riven mod challanges, combined with Carrier Sentinel with Looter mod to break the crates and Vacuum the loot around you without killing enemies, it becomes a piece of cake challenge.
Come now. We all know Inaros’ passive is the best farming ability.
What's his passive again?
@@Jesuslover2000 his passive is when he dies he goes into the sarcophagus and finishers heal him so idk what they're talking about
@@lyberatis im pretty sure he's reffering to the hidden passive to afk leech farm
It sure helps to farm Ls
Nou my friend the best farming ability is the stug umbra
very informative guide, was out of the loop in terms of these abilities since nekros/hydroid meta
Awesome vid! Some things i might add. 1. 4:30 the tentacles are actively move to grab enemies since the rework! 2. You cant petrify ragdolled enemies, soo Ore Gaze isnt too useful on Khora/Hydroid.
They also fully armor strip now, and can even quintuple in damage if you cast it with a max 3.
Dont forget to turn Gore On for multiple bodies from slash
Ivara can steal vomvalist cores for the lures, making her fill them super quick, as if your steal is fast enough, you can steal from physical and phantom form before they are absorbed by the lures.
That isn't useful at all
@@noahedenborg4221that mans you fill the lure with one vomvalyst not 3, so make capturing the teralyst ultra fast since you need a full lure to avoid it teleporting.
As always, great content Gentlesir.
It sounds as though you’re reinvigorated about your work. Or at least enjoying yourself more.
So pleasing to hear the change in your voice! :)
That purr when you said prowl though. Sir, stahp it.
From what I understand, Chesa Kubrow's Retrieve ability is effectively Desecrate for your companion. The cog in *all* of these camps is another source of the mentioned Monkey Luck effect, Smeeta Kavat's Charm ........ Good Smeeta RNG can get so outrageous that many folk will have a hard time justifying any substitution, even after the recent companion buffs. I had been experimenting with using a Retrieve Chesa with other looting builds for a little while but in the end I can't pry myself away from the Smeeta Doubler (potentially quadrupler !!) roulette.
I’m really digging these, “but why?” videos. Doing a good job!
If the enemies in strangle dome die to outright to any damage (including slash, even if the enemy is dismembered) nekros only gets one corpse to work with. The emeny needs to die to the damage over time effect of slash for nekros to desecrate twice
you mean you get only one corpse per kill? That is normal, you need a weapon with a higher than 50% base slash rating to slash corpses in half
@vendetta9399 Just because the corpse is cut in half, does not mean nekros can get two drops from Strangle Dome. It is a unique interaction
@@danielnolan8848 huh what are you talking about desecrate and strangledome dont interact with each other
@vendetta9399 Nekros can only get the dismembered corpse the died in strangle dome to give another drop (the one from the broken body) if the corpse is dismembered by a slash damage over time proc, not if killed just by the initial slash damage upfront
I think the only time I've farmed w/ Atlas & Ivara was when Shedu came out. Also shutout to the OG days when I didn't have enough credits for index so I'd sit there in dark sector survivals using Chroma's effigy to farm them.
I never thought of making our spooky boy turn stuff into stone. That's my next build, he'll always be my favourite farmer. Use the MIGHTY SEER for 200% extra drop chance
we usually just Khora, then anyone that wants to tag along can bring a support frame like wisp, nekros whatever and then they just dont attack, sometimes they might prime mobs tho. its pretty relaxed.
Equilibrium was recently changed so it consumed health orbs even when you're at maximum health. Same goes for energy orbs and energy. With that in mind Despoil is actually useless mod as long as you don't completely dry out your energy pool. This is easy to avoid with all the energy management options we have today. One hindrance is that Nekros has fairly low energy pool but one or two blue archon shards can fix that.
It's just one mod, though? are you really fiending for that one slot on a farming frame?
Dear Grineer,
There are two camps in Warframe: one with chains and the other with tentacles. You're screwed either way.
Sincerely,
The Operator
also Xaka's ability to smash all crates in an area when firing the ability so you don't have to break anything , just pick it up
I love the bloopers at the end BTW so funny every time :D
Glad to know that you're enjoying yourself a lot more when it comes to these videos, Hellmanz
Or at least ya seem to be, anyway
Because I remember when you made that video, "We need to talk," a little while back, and what you were talking about in there
So I'm glad that you seem to be feeling a lot better than you were at that time.
But don't be afraid to take some time off to take care of yourself, alright boss? Good people like you don't come around very often, as sad as that is to say.
Either way, I hope to see ya on the flipside, and I hope ya have a good day/night, whatever time it is for ya over there.
Take care, boss.
Whenever I needed to farm anything, I used Nekros with petrify, using Proboscis Cernos to group enemies. I prefer Nekros over the others because the augment feels essential to his kit, the others feel more like a flex slot, that's why a never used the Khora or Hydroid for farming
Love the outtakes at the end
Notable mention: Hydroid is 100% better than any other loot frame for farming oxium because the drones are guaranteed to drop oxium so the tentacles guarantee they drop more (:
yes but thats only on paper the tentcles are consistant with grabbing
@@noahedenborg4221 every time you cast it they're guaranteed to grab everything in range up to their limit
@@lyberatis yeah every CAST im talking about overtime for the whole duration
@@noahedenborg4221 so you just recast it when there's more oxium drones
@@lyberatis yeah well u also need to kill said drones or have the tentcles kill em which low lvls ez but sp where u most likely want to be farming on they dont khora jsut does it more consistantly
As a Nekros fan, it feels like every other Khora player gets mad at me for wanting to actually play the game rather than afking in a corner for 30 minutes while they use whipclaw to kill exclusively enemies caught by their dome. Doubly so if I feel like using anything other than a slash melee. This isn't even steel path btw.
Meanwhile our other squad members were low MRs playing random frames and having no consideration for their farming method either, but they only seem to care about the slightly off meta Nekros.
And then they also complain when I leave after 10 minutes of their complaining.
Solo you could also run Hydroid and a Chesa Kubrow for double dipping loot
The Plufd camp is tha Best gang...camp.. yes...
The best way of farming is to be a greedy mag. You don't pick the loot, the loot picks you.
The wokong comment was great. "This a terrible idea" lol
5:58 i used this method for unlocking a riven. i had to do a survival missions without unaliving anything. so this gave me a supply of life support charges
Fantastic information, thank you!
I like PLILF too.
You don't need + duration on Petrify. Unless you're killing really slowly.
I heard that Ore Gaze affects the petrifying trail from Path of Statues. Is this true? Cuz if it is, that means you can run the Atlas augment that makes Landslide free at high rubble and not worry about efficiency.
Nekros is literally the epitome of idle gaming: just slap-n-forget. Yes, he doesn't loot that much and is very squishy, but if you just want to play games and test out weapons while passively farming, he's the way to go. Less stressful and casual-friendly. Then, if you really want to go ham on farming, that's the only time you either choose tentacles or bdsm, whichever your mood of kink is.
He's far from squishy with a Despoil + Equilibrium + Health Conversion setup.
Granted that's a major investment and not necessary, but if you really want to turn your brain off, making Nekros basically immortal is quite helpful 😂
Shield of shadows also makes him SP viable to tank.
i still prefer lazy "gloom equilibrium ripkas nekros" over others
After building a stat stick for Khora so that I could use her for farming, I had wondered that exact question. Perfect timing. My go to has always been Nekros, always felt like I got more drops and more consistent. I can also just turn off my brain and melee away.
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If your >MR20 it’s your duty to help low MR players farm Nekros.
I did that with hydroid
We got 500 plastids in a span of 5mins compared to my nekros who got 500in the span of 10mins
I'm loving this series of the best but why
All the youtubers are trying to misinform us, the best farming ability is obviously nezha's firewalker.
As, if I am to farm an item for hour I might as well not be to only one suffering terribly.
Next vid on best defense reduction ability, please?!
all are good for spefific things
I use different warframes depending on the situation. BTW, DE made it so you can only get one instance of additional loot from a dead body (well except the is the whole Nekros and multiple body parts thing) So their abilities don’t stack loot. The only one that does still takes advantage this is Ivara because she’s not looting a dead body just picking pockets of the living.
Well desecrate can loot twice only from torsos
Also wukong hydroid khora are on kill
Hello, MCGamerCZ, how's your day going?
Like this series.
I just got back after a month of hiatus and khora's strangledome seems to drop less after abyss of dagath...
I remember the days when Desecrate wasn't a toggle...
Yup, it used to be a spammable ability...
With nekros doing a dj like animation each time 😂
People mashing the button FR. Painfull good old days.
I've seen the future for the next 6 months its going be all, but why videos👎super entertaining and fun to watch 😴 💤
There is also Chesecrate, Chesa’s special precept. Just… throwing it in the things :3
could you use ivara to farm demolist drops?
MAXIMUM DISRESPECT FARMING
"I main Inaros, but... why?"
I prefer pllfl
No kubrow?
strangledome all day
Curious, does anyone know if Ore Gaze works with Gorgon’s augment that’s petrifies.
It does but don't bother
Ignore this other person. Go give it a shot, test some numbers and have some fun. Currently the wiki says it doesn't but there are videos that say it does, so who knows.
@@PhoenicopterusR it's way weaker then just nekros or khora or hydroid
@@noahedenborg4221 you sound like the kind of person who optimizes the fun out of everything you touch. Let people explore and have fun.
@@PhoenicopterusR oh if u think that
i would be on the low low scale
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Really enjoying your "But Why?" series. 😁Learning a lot and appreciate the background knowledge.
Nekros all the way for me when it comes to farming. Its easier for me to work with and I can focus on just killing or sticking with the squad. No placement problems . No wait until it touches something. Just click, shoot, and loot.
Desecrate ftw, can you please do a beginner guide for Mirage/Eclipse?
There are a couple more farm abilities, pet mods. Smeeta Kavats have a chance to bless drops picked up to be doubled for a long duration and Chesa Kubrows can periodically loot enemies similar to Nekros desecrate. They are more like a side to a main course, they make the farm better but they aren't needed to just regularly farm.
The only reason i dont like the strangledome method is that the enemies in strangledome fly all over the place and i cant hit them :(
khora has a synergy for this. hit 1 enemy with whipclaw, others gets their share. for other players, they build her small radius for enough to hit with aoe
Ur khora just use ur 1
@@noahedenborg4221 its mostly when there's Khora in my team. If i am the khora i just don't want to use the strangledome, dunno why i just don't like the ability but it is a good ability
Aim better
When i play solo, Hydroid all the way. When i play with friends, i like to play khora and have a friend play vauban. This works great as the flechette orbs shoot in all directions. Great video.
Fine, let's farm Steel essense with Wukong
1 more very late note for Nekros. Amalgam Ripkas.
If you didn't know, there is an amalgam mod for the Ripkas that drops from the Ropalolyst (wisp farm) which adds a 100% "Gore chance" to YOUR ENTIRE LOADOUT. That "Gore chance" is the chance for a corpse to be cut apart on death.
If you are usually the dps/nuker of a farming squad, do your group(s) a favor and equip the Ripkas with this mod. It will sky rocket your drops given you use an ability that "targets torsos". (Good examples include Hydroid's tentacle swarm, Khora's strangle dome, Mag's Pull, and even Volt's Discharge.)
Ivara is great for toroid farm. I got all of Baruuk's blueprints from the circuit, then pickpocketed a few of each toroid in less than an hour, and tadaa, I won't have to fluff about with Vox Solaris.
does chroma drop extra credits for everyone in the team or is it just for himself?
Iirc from profit taker info its team but they need to die in range of effigy
Hey Mr. Mayo Man, curious as to how well these new "Warframe, But Why?" videos are doing compared to your previous content?
Its criminal that double links ore gaze niduses wasnt brought up
With Hydroid, just use his 3 to kill them faster with the tentacles.
Plilf gang represent
Petrify ivara is better
I love this series
I honestly have never thought of this, can Khora’s whip use slash to cut enemies in half to boost Desecrate?
yes
i know it isnt an ability, but "spare parts" can be useful
ah yes, the funny ore gaze nekros setup
I think best farming ability is to kill enemies faster
That's why people just go with nekros
Cuz he just needs to be within area to double the loot while everyone else is killing
First!!!