I mix my chick peas in a food bag with a salted caramel liquid additive that’s used for baking from Asda. Leave in the fridge overnight. Works very well. As for the videos they are excellent. Given me a few tips and for me better than the professional fishermen videos as most of us are casual fishermen and fish the exact same way as you do, well I do anyway 😂😂
*important update* The test was just a bit of fun trying out chickpea’s as a bait for the first time. I fully understand I haven’t covered all chickpea variables in the test 😂 Also by adding the goo I am aware I have changed not only the colour but the smell and taste of the chickpeas, the point of this was more to prove that the hookbait you are using certainly matters and that these tests aren’t pointless, you can’t just put anything on the hook and expect a bite. Some things work better than others ! It’s good to test out different colours flavours and baits. However it’s my personal belief that colour matters more than flavour! Also I know that hair rigging the chickpeas with a bait stop would have been the best way, but I’m also lazy and this would be time consuming on every cast 🎣 Again, Just a bit of fun guys! Tight lines and take care !
I've found the hook baits are much better if you used dried chickpeas and prepare them yourself. Then when you mount them, be sure to mount through both hemispheres of the seed and no down the fracture point.
Great advice James ! I will pin this comment so people can try it. However, I’m not sure I would personally like to invest the time and effort prepping the chickpeas myself. I think corn will still be my preference as a similar natural particle ! 🎣
imterestng video matt....all i know is i used em years ago stalking carp in the edges with a float rod....i used 3 versions ..natural...as they come ....yellow food colored thats all we had them days..and red...every carp came on both colours!!....and mounting the bait was a simple side hooking on an 8 kamasan animal hook!...if ya dont experiment in angling ya never know.....its all part of the fun of this great obsession of ours!...tight lines buddy...
Great advice as already mentioned in comments buy the dried chick peas soak for 24hours plus boil for 10-20 minutes check with baiting needle , then cool with cold water , best for the hook is hair rigged ,or the bait band ,with the hair ,use floss , just loop through a normal nylon short hair , salt is worth adding to the hook baits, braid hook links are also useful , I have spent years on chick peas but the tinned are too soft all the best to all tight lines
As usual brilliant viewing, I use chick peas a lot , but always soak and cook my own , find tinned chick peas way to soft , good for spod but to soft for hook , always colour mine red and yellow and mix with maples, red dari , corn and hemp but never fished then on a method feeder , more a scattered bait approach, loved this test , proved a point I think 😊🎣🎣
I didn’t find I was getting an aggressive quick bite response with chickpeas though like I would with corn or maples 🌾 I don’t think it’s a bait I would try again . Yes the test really did prove a point I was shocked how much of a difference it made!
We’ll that certainly proved a point. Thanks for the lesson. It’s been suggested to me the dried out chickpeas make a good additive to basic ground bait. Any thoughts on that? Thanks for the video. Atb. Paul.
@@oddmanout98 I personally can’t see them giving any kind of flavour or enhancement/ boost bud who knows only one way to tell and that’s to try it, I’m told yeast is the best additive you can buy it from British aqua feeds 👌🏻 I am going to get some for a winter video
Just started using chickpeas in Spain. Local carp have got used to corn. Get the raw peas and soak them for 24hrs, then boil for 20 minutes. Add Scopex, I use banana and pineapple. Make sure the peas are soft enough to crush between finger and thumb as Carp will have trouble digesting them if under boiled. I use a korum bayonet hair rig.
Been using chickpeas for years and like a lot of the comments dried and prepared at home is vastly cheaper with or without colourings easy peasy. Again you must mount through both sections of the pea or it will split. At my club water el natural is the way forward but also had success with many different colours. I believe it's size compared to other free offerings i use prepared piegon conditioner as free offerings round the hook bit hey ho if it works don't change it for a particular water. Tight lines and please keep the videos coming great to see you keep it simple and not swayed by the enormous advertising by the bait companies.
A great test.With a logical conclusion. Years ago I caught some of my biggest Roach from the Upper Trent on stewed wheat. Never hear of it these days. Stay safe and thanks
If it worked then it will work now David ! I just don’t think a lot of people want to invest the time to create there own baits these days. I remember my dad boiling help for hours and the garage stinking of flavourings 😂
Carp are good at detecting PH changes around your bait that plays a part in attracting them in and stimulating them to feed obviously other aspects too.
Nice little mirrors them pal 👌your videos are underrated pal your learning youths to save money and not have to spend a fortune keep the content coming brother 🔥🔥🔥
Great fun video with good results on the pink! Noticed few comments saying could be flavour of the goo! Maybe worth trying chickpeas 1 with the goo and other with just plain food dye just to test if it's the goo flavour doing it! Personally don't use method feeders but still look forward to next vid😊
You done the test for me, I don't have to bother giving chickpeas a go thanks. If I was want a cheap bait I use corn you cant go wrong. Thanks for the video I really enjoyed it. My next outing is with Aquastim crab n squid wafters.
Of course the hookbait matters, I've sat for hours with countless variations/ colours/ flavours of wafters only to switch to a standard 6mm pellet before catching, another quality video pal well done
I like your videos and I like you too! Your not arrogant about what you know like some people! I have subscribed to your channel to get some ideas. Looking forward to seeing your videos. 🎣🎣
Not just colour I've been giving this a little thought. I'm almost certain that flavour/scent is just as important as colour. I fish a couple of natural lakes (not commercials) that have a good head of tench and bream. Both lakes can be highly coloured and I'm sure it's the scent that initially attracts the fish as visibility is very limited.
Chickpeas just a step up in size to corn but not really worth the extra hassle 🤔 but a fantastic test on colour and very fair,,, anoth great and helpful video!!! Cheers and keep em coming 👍
Nice film Matt 👍 they definitely preferred the pink chick peas didn't they 😊 I know your not a fan of quick stops but think that would have been the best option in this case pal. Keep up the good work buddy 👍
Definitely, I have found that also! I definitely feel consistently that fish prefer pink baits at most venues. But on some venues you can get quick bites on white, orange or yellow 😂 it’s what keeps fishing interesting!
Good insight into fishing with chickpeas they definitely like the chickpeas with the goo added whether it's the colour or the flavouring be interesting if you put a different colour goo onto the other chickpeas to see how the carp reacted to that Top content as usual westy tight lines 👍
You wouldn’t know! Not for sure anyway. I certainly feel colour matters more than flavour when fishing. But flavour definitely comes into play. It’s an almond flavour goo, which too be honest I have never done really well using. I have tried it on some wafters and couldn’t get a bite 😂 I wasn’t just testing colour more does the hook-bait actually matter. It’s definitely going to be a combination of both, I just can’t fit all that in the video title 😂
@@WestysAngling So when you use same goo and concentrate on flavor it didn't work but when you concentrate on pink it does , same here i am doing amazing on pink too 😍
Yes westy i like the chickpeas but like you say there very soft and ime like alot of people in the coments i cook the dried ones for the hook baits they are alot more solid
Hi Westy, what make of bands do you use on your hooks? I have got some that seem to break after a while especially pulling them through sweetcorn. Thanks for the great videos and tips..👍😎
All of those "Pink" were Korda Goo Enhanced Pink. So not just a chickpea dyed pink without flavor enhancers. Color does matter at times, but you have not controlled for the other variables imparted by the Goo outside of just the color. Chickpeas take color really well and can be dyed with normal food dyes or they can pick up color and flavor by using something like crushed beets, Braggs Aminos, etc. So a fun video, but there are levels to the chickpea that you haven't yet explored.
@WestysAngling As I said before, I really like your videos and presentation. I was someone who just used standard baits I.e. sweetcorn, but having watched your video it has inspired me to buy colourants and flavourings and experiment with them. My fishing trips are so much more fun now and I want to go fishing every chance I get thanks to you. Keep up the good work.
For the people that told you the fish are only interested in the loose feed, I would direct them to the fishing gurus channel and tell them to watch the underwater series's. The fish home in on the colourful hookbait, they proved it. Often the fish totally ignored the pellets.
Also if you use a bayonet and a tub of wafters they'll last ages so I would class those as a cheap bait. I've had 7 fish on the same wafter when you push a bayonet in.
Iv used chickpeas a few times and never ever had a fish on them and iv been fishings over 20 years . iv used it with bread and pellets and iv added goo to them and still nothing
Same here in North Yorkshire. Managed to catch a couple of decent carp, but they were more interested in sex than food. Caught lots of roach and skimmers, so still an enjoyable day.
Would definitely work well hair rigging ! They would still break on the take though, chickpeas are really soft and brittle! I like speed and efficiency of the bands, too fiddly for me hair rigging and putting a bait stop in after every fish 😂🎣
Hi All Found this interesting I’m one of those mad fisherman that will try anything. I’ve fished chickpeas never caught on them. I’ve look at the ethnic section in the supermarket as many products on that section I’ve never seen before never mind a fish, I’ve fished kids 3 for a £ sweets and caught to the surprise of my fishing partner Nick had Carp ,Bream & Tench on them, also used berries that over hang the water & caught not easy to hook or keep on the hook, I’ve even tried Nice n Spicy Nik Naks which cause a strange pattern on the surface and I’ve had a carp on them, as anyone tried the different flavours of Peperami ? #smudgeronthebank
I underestimated the width of the chickpeas, hadn’t tied the hairs long enough on my quick stop rigs. Your right though probably the best way. Although I personally don’t like quick-stops I feel like there is too much plastic on top of the bait… whether it actually affects anything is another matter !
I mix my chick peas in a food bag with a salted caramel liquid additive that’s used for baking from Asda.
Leave in the fridge overnight.
Works very well.
As for the videos they are excellent.
Given me a few tips and for me better than the professional fishermen videos as most of us are casual fishermen and fish the exact same way as you do, well I do anyway 😂😂
*important update*
The test was just a bit of fun trying out chickpea’s as a bait for the first time. I fully understand I haven’t covered all chickpea variables in the test 😂
Also by adding the goo I am aware I have changed not only the colour but the smell and taste of the chickpeas, the point of this was more to prove that the hookbait you are using certainly matters and that these tests aren’t pointless, you can’t just put anything on the hook and expect a bite. Some things work better than others ! It’s good to test out different colours flavours and baits. However it’s my personal belief that colour matters more than flavour!
Also I know that hair rigging the chickpeas with a bait stop would have been the best way, but I’m also lazy and this would be time consuming on every cast 🎣
Again, Just a bit of fun guys! Tight lines and take care !
Totally agree you have to try out these things! And bit of fun at same time! + saves rest of us having to do it 😆
I've found the hook baits are much better if you used dried chickpeas and prepare them yourself. Then when you mount them, be sure to mount through both hemispheres of the seed and no down the fracture point.
Great advice James ! I will pin this comment so people can try it. However, I’m not sure I would personally like to invest the time and effort prepping the chickpeas myself. I think corn will still be my preference as a similar natural particle ! 🎣
thx for testing, its awesome to see the pink color makes the difference. Cheers m8 :)
Well done Westy, you're nailing TH-cam. 👍
imterestng video matt....all i know is i used em years ago stalking carp in the edges with a float rod....i used 3 versions ..natural...as they come ....yellow food colored thats all we had them days..and red...every carp came on both colours!!....and mounting the bait was a simple side hooking on an 8 kamasan animal hook!...if ya dont experiment in angling ya never know.....its all part of the fun of this great obsession of ours!...tight lines buddy...
Exactly ! Thanks Kev, brilliant comment. This series is all about testing things out 👌🏻 🎣
Hi westy I recommend you use small shrimp mounted on the shank of the hook because tench and carp love it even the small ones
Great advice as already mentioned in comments buy the dried chick peas soak for 24hours plus boil for 10-20 minutes check with baiting needle , then cool with cold water , best for the hook is hair rigged ,or the bait band ,with the hair ,use floss , just loop through a normal nylon short hair , salt is worth adding to the hook baits, braid hook links are also useful , I have spent years on chick peas but the tinned are too soft all the best to all tight lines
As usual brilliant viewing, I use chick peas a lot , but always soak and cook my own , find tinned chick peas way to soft , good for spod but to soft for hook , always colour mine red and yellow and mix with maples, red dari , corn and hemp but never fished then on a method feeder , more a scattered bait approach, loved this test , proved a point I think 😊🎣🎣
I didn’t find I was getting an aggressive quick bite response with chickpeas though like I would with corn or maples 🌾 I don’t think it’s a bait I would try again . Yes the test really did prove a point I was shocked how much of a difference it made!
We’ll that certainly proved a point. Thanks for the lesson. It’s been suggested to me the dried out chickpeas make a good additive to basic ground bait. Any thoughts on that? Thanks for the video. Atb. Paul.
@@oddmanout98 I personally can’t see them giving any kind of flavour or enhancement/ boost bud who knows only one way to tell and that’s to try it, I’m told yeast is the best additive you can buy it from British aqua feeds 👌🏻 I am going to get some for a winter video
Just started using chickpeas in Spain. Local carp have got used to corn. Get the raw peas and soak them for 24hrs, then boil for 20 minutes. Add Scopex, I use banana and pineapple. Make sure the peas are soft enough to crush between finger and thumb as Carp will have trouble digesting them if under boiled. I use a korum bayonet hair rig.
Been using chickpeas for years and like a lot of the comments dried and prepared at home is vastly cheaper with or without colourings easy peasy. Again you must mount through both sections of the pea or it will split. At my club water el natural is the way forward but also had success with many different colours. I believe it's size compared to other free offerings i use prepared piegon conditioner as free offerings round the hook bit hey ho if it works don't change it for a particular water. Tight lines and please keep the videos coming great to see you keep it simple and not swayed by the enormous advertising by the bait companies.
Thanks Alan ! Great comment and well put forward 🎣
Great summary and looks to prove the point on colour!
I guess nothing is ever really proven when it comes to fishing, though I’m 100% sure the colour of a hookbait has massive impact 👌🏻🎣
A great test.With a logical conclusion.
Years ago I caught some of my biggest Roach from the Upper Trent on stewed wheat. Never hear of it these days.
Stay safe and thanks
If it worked then it will work now David ! I just don’t think a lot of people want to invest the time to create there own baits these days. I remember my dad boiling help for hours and the garage stinking of flavourings 😂
Carp are good at detecting PH changes around your bait that plays a part in attracting them in and stimulating them to feed obviously other aspects too.
Nice little mirrors them pal 👌your videos are underrated pal your learning youths to save money and not have to spend a fortune keep the content coming brother 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks mate ! Tight lines 🎣
Definitely going to give these a try on sunday 👍 cheers for the advice westy 🎣
Good luck buddy 👌🏻🎣
Great fun video with good results on the pink! Noticed few comments saying could be flavour of the goo! Maybe worth trying chickpeas 1 with the goo and other with just plain food dye just to test if it's the goo flavour doing it! Personally don't use method feeders but still look forward to next vid😊
I was waiting for the next episode of the series 👌
Great video again and some nice information as always ❤
Looking forward for next episode
Thanks Matey 🎣
You done the test for me, I don't have to bother giving chickpeas a go thanks. If I was want a cheap bait I use corn you cant go wrong. Thanks for the video I really enjoyed it. My next outing is with Aquastim crab n squid wafters.
I definitely think corns better 👌🏻🎣 tha is for watching Barry ! Good luck on the AquaStim !
How long do I leave the method feeder in the water with bread flake after casting in. in
15/20 mins in summer/autumn and longer in winter. It’s not uncommon for me to leave feeders In up to an hour in winter
Can you do a review of drummersdale fishery
Of course the hookbait matters, I've sat for hours with countless variations/ colours/ flavours of wafters only to switch to a standard 6mm pellet before catching, another quality video pal well done
Thanks T ! Definitely mate, I have been catching on pink wafters all day … goes dead … swap to corn and booom streight in 🎣
Great videos, enjoy them alot. Maybe use food colouring instead of attractant next time as it will remove other variables 👍👍
And food colouring costs pennies as against the Goo/Glug which can cost thick end of a tenner!!
I like your videos and I like you too! Your not arrogant about what you know like some people! I have subscribed to your channel to get some ideas. Looking forward to seeing your videos. 🎣🎣
Thanks Dave that’s a really nice comment 🎣 hope you enjoy some of the other content on the channel !
Not just colour
I've been giving this a little thought. I'm almost certain that flavour/scent is just as important as colour.
I fish a couple of natural lakes (not commercials) that have a good head of tench and bream. Both lakes can be highly coloured and I'm sure it's the scent that initially attracts the fish as visibility is very limited.
Probably is in those situations Ste! Id love to try a couple of natural venues for big tench and bream etc 🎣
Chickpeas just a step up in size to corn but not really worth the extra hassle 🤔 but a fantastic test on colour and very fair,,, anoth great and helpful video!!! Cheers and keep em coming 👍
Thanks Chris! Couldn’t agree more about the corn 🌽 much better bait
Nice film Matt 👍 they definitely preferred the pink chick peas didn't they 😊 I know your not a fan of quick stops but think that would have been the best option in this case pal. Keep up the good work buddy 👍
loads doing your thing in fishing vids but your totally ace entertain informative top man keep on going
Thanks Paul ! Really nice comment 🎣
Interesting test. It does seen colour makes a massive difference. But the difficult thing is different fisheries, the fish prefer different colours!
Definitely, I have found that also! I definitely feel consistently that fish prefer pink baits at most venues. But on some venues you can get quick bites on white, orange or yellow 😂 it’s what keeps fishing interesting!
Good insight into fishing with chickpeas they definitely like the chickpeas with the goo added whether it's the colour or the flavouring be interesting if you put a different colour goo onto the other chickpeas to see how the carp reacted to that
Top content as usual westy tight lines 👍
Great video, quick question - if the pink baits win, how will you know it's the colour and not the almond flavour that's done it?
You wouldn’t know! Not for sure anyway. I certainly feel colour matters more than flavour when fishing. But flavour definitely comes into play. It’s an almond flavour goo, which too be honest I have never done really well using. I have tried it on some wafters and couldn’t get a bite 😂 I wasn’t just testing colour more does the hook-bait actually matter. It’s definitely going to be a combination of both, I just can’t fit all that in the video title 😂
@@WestysAngling So when you use same goo and concentrate on flavor it didn't work but when you concentrate on pink it does , same here i am doing amazing on pink too 😍
When I fish with chick peas, I always hook the peas on the hook usually a size 12 wide gap place the hook in gap
Do you not find this hinders the bolt action on the method feeder Barry ?
Use to catch a lot on chicks, as some guys have already commented prepare yourself, the tinned ones are too soft, my hands down best flavour cinnamon.
Cinnamon, interesting I will have a go with this flavour
Yes westy i like the chickpeas but like you say there very soft and ime like alot of people in the coments i cook the dried ones for the hook baits they are alot more solid
Perhaps the MAP feeders with the clip would hold the bait in place?
Hi Westy, what make of bands do you use on your hooks? I have got some that seem to break after a while especially pulling them through sweetcorn. Thanks for the great videos and tips..👍😎
Guru ones ! Never had a issue, really strong bands 😊
Nice Video,... as always
Have you ever used dried garlic granules or chilli powder on the bread crumbs
I will try it ! Thanks for the suggestion
Next test pink sweet corn vs normal sweet corn !
Luv the videos keep them coming pls 👌👍
Something special coming for the next couple of these 🎣👌🏻😉
I've tried pink sweetcorn versus yellow and found I caught more on the pink. On another day, the result could be reversed. Fish are fickle creatures.
So so true !
Can’t wait 👍👍
I think the pink colouring had an almond flavour, so could flavour be the atraction?
Could be buddy ! Although saying that, I have never had good success on the almond flavour before.
Wahoo!!………..and I was 1st to post
Mini marshmallows, peas, jelly babies, half a wine gum, jelly babies and Campbells meat balls in gravy , Grey mist meres best bait
What days do you put your videos out?
Usually Tuesdays ! 🎬
Good I will look out for them. I love getting tips off here. I also watch ta fishing with Graham pullen. Do you know it?
17:55 coffe or tea ?
Coffee mate always ☕️
All of those "Pink" were Korda Goo Enhanced Pink. So not just a chickpea dyed pink without flavor enhancers. Color does matter at times, but you have not controlled for the other variables imparted by the Goo outside of just the color. Chickpeas take color really well and can be dyed with normal food dyes or they can pick up color and flavor by using something like crushed beets, Braggs Aminos, etc. So a fun video, but there are levels to the chickpea that you haven't yet explored.
I’m definitely not a chickpea pro 😂 I am sorry I have not controlled all chickpea variables haha tight lines James !
@WestysAngling As I said before, I really like your videos and presentation. I was someone who just used standard baits I.e. sweetcorn, but having watched your video it has inspired me to buy colourants and flavourings and experiment with them. My fishing trips are so much more fun now and I want to go fishing every chance I get thanks to you. Keep up the good work.
For the people that told you the fish are only interested in the loose feed, I would direct them to the fishing gurus channel and tell them to watch the underwater series's. The fish home in on the colourful hookbait, they proved it. Often the fish totally ignored the pellets.
Tho use videos are amazing and really confirmed the conclusions I had made about method feeder fishing over the last 5 years !
Also if you use a bayonet and a tub of wafters they'll last ages so I would class those as a cheap bait. I've had 7 fish on the same wafter when you push a bayonet in.
Of course mate ! I love wafters, the supermarket baits series is just something a little bit different to challenge myself 🎣👍🏻
@@WestysAngling oh yeah I know and I like it, just saying that wafters are actually dirt cheap also.
Definitely 😂 probably more cost effective than most baits ! (Apart from I buy way too many different kinds shapes and flavours 😂)
Iv used chickpeas a few times and never ever had a fish on them and iv been fishings over 20 years . iv used it with bread and pellets and iv added goo to them and still nothing
I don’t think they are be best bait! I definitely would pick corn over them, seems from the comments people rate them ! 😂
I think corn is better then chickpeas all day long , do you ever do catfishing I’m going to give you a follow and which your videos mate
There are some Cat vids on the channel buddy yes 😁
Try double frozen peas on quick stop
They work fantastic for carp
Mussels next 😂
I’ve been out today carp still on the spawn I hope it ends soon
Same buddy it’s been a tough week ! It’s probably a bit to hot too, takes the oxygen out of the water !
Same here in North Yorkshire. Managed to catch a couple of decent carp, but they were more interested in sex than food. Caught lots of roach and skimmers, so still an enjoyable day.
I had best succes with scopex. If you dip maggots and throw it without feed, you will catch fish.
Look at cookies fishing capers. It’s all about chickpeas.
Yes mate. I watch him myself and he is the king of chickpeas eh mate
Westy have you ever tried kidney beans please.
Old school is best
why did you not try a bait stop that way it would never come off
Would definitely work well hair rigging ! They would still break on the take though, chickpeas are really soft and brittle! I like speed and efficiency of the bands, too fiddly for me hair rigging and putting a bait stop in after every fish 😂🎣
Hi All
Found this interesting I’m one of those mad fisherman that will try anything.
I’ve fished chickpeas never caught on them. I’ve look at the ethnic section in the supermarket as many products on that section I’ve never seen before never mind a fish, I’ve fished kids 3 for a £ sweets and caught to the surprise of my fishing partner Nick had Carp ,Bream & Tench on them, also used berries that over hang the water & caught not easy to hook or keep on the hook, I’ve even tried Nice n Spicy Nik Naks which cause a strange pattern on the surface and I’ve had a carp on them, as anyone tried the different flavours of Peperami ?
#smudgeronthebank
7 minutes from me this lodge never fished it up to now.
#smudgeronthebank
what about trying kidney beans next time pal
That’s a good one to try !
Quick stops mate ,,, use chickpeas all the time
I underestimated the width of the chickpeas, hadn’t tied the hairs long enough on my quick stop rigs. Your right though probably the best way. Although I personally don’t like quick-stops I feel like there is too much plastic on top of the bait… whether it actually affects anything is another matter !
Smashing it brva 🫡🫡🫡🫡