The Legend of Heroes III (PC-98 Paradise) Compared to the Sega Saturn, PS1, and PSP versions!

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  • @bruticus0875
    @bruticus0875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I think the cover art is pretty cute. Looks like she's holding up her foot and looking toward the guy to complain about trudging through a swamp. And the dude is just ignoring her gaze by looking up at the sky.

    • @missingwestcoast
      @missingwestcoast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah, the artstyle is also kinda timeless when compared to the ""90s Anime style"" other games at the time had

    • @sozaj
      @sozaj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I always thought they had a kind of "well, this is awkward" expression on their faces, and I loved it. I loved that the cover art had decided to capture a smaller, seemingly unimportant moment in their journey rather than trying to capture a big moment - or just showing a generic collage of characters.
      I also loved the art style.

    • @seancatacombs
      @seancatacombs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That cover art is by Kenji Tsuruta, a pretty legendary artist

    • @LightFykki
      @LightFykki ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree, I like it as well. Seems simplistic, but there is so much detail there, from the expressions, to that the well-define features (i.e., the foot), to just the background and coloring. It actually drew me to this video to check more about it.

    • @cloudnine2330
      @cloudnine2330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@seancatacombs Spirit of Wonder is such a classic but I think his artwork looks way better in black and white

  • @feiwong3634
    @feiwong3634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Julio is actually a real name in Spanish, its correct spelling is "julio" as it is, and you did in fact.
    Thanks for these Falcom videos, i just love that company so much.

  • @stephenhutchison676
    @stephenhutchison676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Another great video. I love how you show the process of installing/booting the game on actual hardware instead of just going straight to gameplay. That's a great unique feature of this channel.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think it's interesting, of course. Hopefully some of my viewers do too. I'm sure there are some people who just want to see the game, though, and they're free to skip ahead! Thanks for watching.

    • @Xpert74
      @Xpert74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I second that - it's really neat to see what exactly was involved in installing & running each game on these platforms. Helps put things in perspective, when considering what's needed to get modern games up and running.

  • @Choops6969
    @Choops6969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    18:34 that's my comment! IM FAMOUS!

  • @WeAllEatFood
    @WeAllEatFood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    This channel is perfect for cozy viewing and I'm so happy I stumbled upon it. As a burgeoning Falcom nut, I always leave impressed by how little I know about their body of work. Great video as always

  • @Tudsworth
    @Tudsworth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As somebody who has only ever played the PSP version of this game, the lack of an "original music" option in those ports is a real shame, the FM sound is truly fantastic and I absolutely could just sit back and listen to it divorced from the context of the game.
    I'm glad I watched this video because now I'm filled with a ton of nostalgia for something I actually played, but a version of it I never got to experience. Hopefully fans with the know-how to translate these original games can, because it's something I'd love to see in English, no matter how much of a long shot.

    • @ObiKKa
      @ObiKKa ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Geofront team announced two months ago in January of this year of 2023 that they've started translating into English that 3rd full official LoH title (The 1999 Windows PC version, not the 1994 original PC-98 version).
      I'm sure a very long time after that, they'll eventually tackle the old Windows versions of the full LoH #4 and #5 titles.

  • @MagmaMKII
    @MagmaMKII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wish Xseed had localized the Windows ports of these as well, like they did with the Trails and Ys titles.

  • @drift180x
    @drift180x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    There is something nostalgic about PC88 and PC98 even though I never grew up with them. Your videos are great! I like that you show the boxes and manuals and boot ups of the games.

    • @captainthunderbolt7541
      @captainthunderbolt7541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am just in love with the sound boards for both systems. The music it produces is just superb!

    • @anonamatron
      @anonamatron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You probably had a PC growing up.... same thing, almost. This is sort of like going back to those old PC days (or Amiga days for me) and getting new content related to things you may love now, like Falcom games.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Captain Thunderbolt And the soundboards for both systems have the same sound chips, so they are really the same thing.

    • @LightFykki
      @LightFykki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There truly is. It was a time of experimentation and pushing through the limitations of what the systems offered. That, combined with the charming design of most games, really makes that era of media truly special

  • @menhirmike
    @menhirmike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    18:30 This channel is giving me nostalgia for an entire system that I've never owned, the PC-88/98 dithering is pretty unique, but it's the music that always stands out to me. I personally aren't interested in playing them these days, but thanks for highlighting them and allowing us to see what we've missed in the west!

  • @tigerfog_scypher
    @tigerfog_scypher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Oh you didn't mention how the japanese PSP version of the game has a battle system closer to that original PC version. It was changed to the turn based battle system that Tear of Vermillion PSP used.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The Japanese PSP version is different from the English PSP version???!! Oh darn. I wish I had known about that in order to include it in the video. I'm looking at the Japanese version now, and indeed it has an auto battle system where the characters move around on their own, somewhat similar to the original version. That is totally weird how they decided to change it for the English version!
      I also noticed that there is a second opening sequence in the Japanese version that they took out because it has a Japanese vocal song. Guess that's where the second "upbeat" opening sequence went. Another mystery solved.
      Thanks for your information.

    • @lain11644
      @lain11644 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BasementBrothers They look the same to me.
      th-cam.com/video/xAqYP-XO1tk/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/HQjSHommTgo/w-d-xo.html

    • @tigerfog_scypher
      @tigerfog_scypher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BasementBrothers Yeah unfortunately, that anime opening song is a disservice to the Gargahv trilogy IMO. It's the SAME song used as the opening to all three Gargahv games on PSP, not to mention that the new animated openings are absolutely full of spoilers and feel cheap in its composition compared to the slow openings of the original versions.
      Also, the coolest songs from those original slow intros are no longer in the games AFAIK. Just like the cool upbeat 2nd opening of the PC98 version of white witch is missing, we're missing the amazing intro to Tears of Vermillions win95 version that uses a variation of the "bonds" leitmotif.
      I haven't started a game of Cagesong of the Ocean PSP yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if the original opening by makoto shinkai with the game's letimotif is also completely missing.

    • @Wyrdwad
      @Wyrdwad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@BasementBrothers Bandai U.S. is the reason the battle system was changed for the Western PSP release, specifically because Bandai chose to release Tear of Vermilion first. The Japanese PSP versions of Tear of Vermilion and Song of the Ocean both feature the battle system you played in Prophecy of the Moonlight Witch -- White Witch PSP was the only game to feature the more RTS-style battle system of the original, which I guess Bandai Japan felt was too "outdated" or something and chose to revise for the second and third games of the trilogy. But since Tear of Vermilion was the "first" game stateside, I guess Bandai decided they didn't want to have the battle system change to an RTS style for PotMW, then change BACK for Song of the Ocean, so they just... made PotMW's function identically to Tear of Vermilion's. Aaaaand failed to rebalance the game accordingly, making the battles in PotMW feel EXTREMELY boring.
      Add to that the absolutely abysmal English translation (bad in all three games, but definitely most noticeably so in Tear of Vermilion, with such classic lines as "(coughing) I didn't have eaten a unusual today"), and yeah... the Gaghrav Trilogy got absolutely shafted in the West. Which is a crying shame, as I really think this trilogy -- and this game in particular -- represents the absolute pinnacle of writing for the Legend of Heroes series, with White Witch's Japanese version containing some of the most natural-sounding, believable RPG dialogue I've ever encountered. Legend of Heroes 1 and 2 are a bit stiff and old-fashioned by comparison, while the Trails series as a whole is full of unnecessary/unnatural exposition, protagonists suddenly breaking character, way too over-the-top anime melodrama, and OH SO MANY TROPES. The Gagharv Trilogy really hit that sweet spot where the characters felt real and relatable, and really helped the player get emotionally invested in their journey. I mean, Gueld is a character you NEVER ACTUALLY EVEN MEET, yet she feels realer and more tragic than most modern-day RPG protagonists do.
      I absolutely love this game -- for you, it's what got you into PC-98, and for me, it's actually the game that got me into Falcom! It's not the first Falcom game I ever played -- I played Ys I (SMS), Ys III (SNES), Ys VI (PS2), and Zwei (PS2) before this, as well as Faxanadu and Tombs & Treasure on NES (though I had no idea those were Falcom games at the time, and to be fair, Faxanadu really isn't!) -- but this is the game that made me sit up and take notice of Falcom, so to speak. It's what made me realize that Falcom didn't just make fast-paced anime-style games, they made REALLY THOUGHTFUL, REALLY DEEP games, with stories and characters that could really grab my imagination. And so after playing this one (on PSP in Japanese originally), I started ordering more and more games from Falcom, and began playing through their library at an insane pace for the next decade or so before finally slowing down.
      So yeah... really glad to see you review this one, and really cool to see some of the other versions of it. Thanks, as always, for the excellent video!

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Wyrdwad Thanks for all those details. That really explains it. The Gagharv games may have been shafted in the West, but I have a slightly different take on it: The English versions of the Gagharv trilogy are an anomaly and English speakers are lucky any English version of these were ever released at all. All my years playing the Gagharv games in Japanese, they seemed so niche and obscure at the time. I never ever imagined that English versions would be made. The fact that they were released as early PSP titles by Bandai in Japan, and then Bandai deciding to release them in the U.S. in order to make some money... the stars had to all align in order for that to happen. If that hadn't happened exactly the way it did, the only hope for English versions of the Gagharv games would have been maybe someday some sort of fan translations. Also keep in mind that Legend of Heroes II still has yet to have an English version and you can see how lucky the Gagharv games actually were.
      Anyway, thanks for watching. Your input is insightful as always!

  • @blindcrow849
    @blindcrow849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love your videos. I'm really into japan's 80's and 90's pop culture/media and I don't know much about japanese pc games from this time. Thank you and keep going!

  • @sunderark
    @sunderark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "Alf, a crazy old man" Alf, aged 41.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said "old". He's actually younger than me. lol Oh well, 41 is super old by JRPG standards.

    • @sunderark
      @sunderark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BasementBrothers I know man, it cut deep. ;_;

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sorry man. If it's any consolation, the damage was self-inflicted as well it seems. :)

  • @General-Doge
    @General-Doge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can't put into words how much nostalgic I got after watching the video. This was my very first RPG game I've ever played back in 90s, and the trilogy as a whole impacted my whole life, leading me to even pursuit gamedev as a career. Thank you so much for reminding me of this one, and bringing it to light for people who're likely much less familiar with the series compared to say, Trails series.
    This game was one of the earliest RPG games that got legally published in South Korea(by Samsung no less) and was pretty huge back then over here btw.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. I regret that I always fail to mention the Korean localization versions in my videos. I believe for this game in Korea there was an IBM MS-DOS version and also a cell phone version later on. Glad I was able to remind you of the good old days. Thanks for watching!

  • @KnightCrown
    @KnightCrown ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Of course youtube recommends me a awesome channel like this after I binge old falcom ost

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good. That means the algorithm is doing its job! Glad you found us and welcome aboard.

  • @allisonh2048
    @allisonh2048 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kenji Tsuruta is an amazing artist but definitely a unique pick for this game cover. I'm surprised they let him put his foot fetish on the cover like that.

  • @balancejustice10
    @balancejustice10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Legend of Heroes III was played on PC9801RA21.
    9 months later the renewed version goes on sale
    The game balance has been adjusted, but the biggest difference isThe ending song has changed.
    The ending theme of the initial version was better for me.
    There is no connection with The Legend of Heroes I and II, so you can enjoy it even if you start with III.
    It was interesting that the fighting method changed, but the last enemy is strong enough It took me a while to defeat it because there is a luck factor.
    However, it is rewarding because you can see the final ending, songs, and after-episodes of the characters appearing on the minicomputer.
    It's still a game I want to play on a real machine, not an emulator.
    I still cherish both the main body and the software. This time you picked up The Legend of Heroes III,
    I'm amazed that you know so much about Japan's good PC gaming era.
    Please do your best to introduce nostalgic software from now on.
    PS.
    Please understand that the grammar may be a bit strange.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks for your comment! I'm jealous you got to play it when it was brand new! I also cherish my memories wishing I could learn more about this mysterious game before finally getting to play it in the 2000's.
      I personally like both ending themes from the original and Renewal version. It's a shame there isn't one version that has both! The Renewal ending song isn't on the soundtrack, which is kind of a bummer. Did you notice I used the Renewal ending song at the end of the video? I decided to go with that version since the Renewal version is the one I (mostly) played to get the footage for the video. I also noticed they used this song on the PS1 version. I think most of the others use the original ending song.
      Anyway, thanks so much for watching as always!

    • @balancejustice10
      @balancejustice10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@BasementBrothers
      Thank you for your reply.
      Well, on the contrary, the ending theme of the early software was specially It's going to be
      I will tell my friends that there is a channel that introduces such rare and nostalgic game software in detail.
      Nihon Falcom has a lot of good games.

    • @Alpenjodler1
      @Alpenjodler1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don't worry about the grammar. Your comment was easy to understand.

  • @wjo9272
    @wjo9272 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Geofront is releasing a new fan translation of this game! th-cam.com/video/oVXqBvOdwGw/w-d-xo.html

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is the Windows version, of course, not the PC-98 version. But, yeah, it's awesome that a decent version of the game will finally be playable in English.

  • @desktorp
    @desktorp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    to me it's known as "that game with the girl washing her feet on the cover art"

  • @MrDarkNao
    @MrDarkNao 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Basically, this game's battle system is the grandmother of Final Fantasy 12's battle system.
    Incredible!

  • @cygnusz54
    @cygnusz54 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a very similar experience with first encounter the Gagharv trilogy. Every few weeks I would visit the Sofmap in Nanba to check out the used game section. Saturn games were on the second floor, near the PC section. I'd go and see those Falcom games: Xanadu Next, VM Japan, Ys, Dinosaur, Trails in the Sky and The Gagharv trilogy in their beautiful big boxes all available on the cheap. I ended up eventually pick them all up, and albeit I ended up actually playing the Playstation version of White Witch (I couldn't imagine doing the Isabelle fight with AI), the ambition, writing and music of the Gagharv trilogy ended up leaving a huge impression on me. It's so well made that you finish Cagesong of the Sea and immediately get the urge to "finish" the story again with White Witch.
    It's also worth noting that the Gagharv trilogy and many other classic Falcom titles Japanese releases which have not made it to Steam, can be purchased from the domestic United States from dlsite. Around ten years or so in the past Falcom would also let you buy games through international mail (this is how I got my PC version of Zero no Kiseki), although I don't know if they still offer that service.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep. Exactly the same. There were used game stores with console games that also had a PC games section with all those big boxes. That's where I got a lot of my late nineties Japanese Windows game collection.
      I believe Falcom does still do International mail. They have an English page about it on their site.
      Thanks for watching, and your comment!

  • @Vampier
    @Vampier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On the MSX2 the Legend of Heroes 1 (aka Dragon Slayer 6) was something special for its time. Xanadu/Legacy of the Wizzard ... this series is so naming convoluted it's not even funny :) The trails series on the other hand is a massive universe and great to play!

  • @absent_
    @absent_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really like this channel all those vids are fun to watch.

  • @fiskburk2908
    @fiskburk2908 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm so obsessed with the cover art, I fell in love with the game just by stumbling randomly with it.

    • @theartcrusader759
      @theartcrusader759 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The colours of the art have such a cozy feel to them I can't stop looking at it

    • @vitigaymer1053
      @vitigaymer1053 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Art style is great looks like DS Fire Emblem style I love

  • @ParappatheRapper
    @ParappatheRapper ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there any possibility you would be able to scan that poster and share it? It's so beautiful and when I searched for it I can't find a very good quality image of it.

  • @LSTRetroGamingVideos
    @LSTRetroGamingVideos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love videos about retro games that have a personal story behind it. Even though I didn't even know the game before I watched this video, I can totally understand the feeling and the meaning for you behind it. When we talk about Japanese titles, Dragon Knight III or early Silky's visual novels did a similar thing for me.

  • @Tr3vor42532
    @Tr3vor42532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think most of the faux nostalgia comes from the design behind the games more than anything. Even though most of us haven't played these games on the PC-98, a lot of the design behind the games are recognizable from console games we have played at some point. It would be neat to know what that feels like, I never played many older japanese action RPG type games until I got my PC-98. I just got into it because I'm a computer nerd lol.

  • @matthewlumibao7057
    @matthewlumibao7057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    21:35 Imo ryo yonemitsu is the goat arrranger, cant even tell you how many hrs ive listened to ys 1-4 and Legend of heroes 1-2 ost. They’re all etched in my head

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same. I suppose if I hadn't grown up with his sound he might sound like just any old cheap 90's arranger, but thanks to playing those games there will always be something magical about his arrangements to me. He's immediately recognizable to me too. When I was watching the anime "Kochikame" on TV years ago and heard his sound suddenly in the background I immediately went to google to check if he did the soundtrack, and sure enough, he was the arranger for a few of the tracks.

    • @matthewlumibao7057
      @matthewlumibao7057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BasementBrothers that's really interesting, thanks for the insight

  • @shawnji6139
    @shawnji6139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Not sure if you were aware, but the books actually do have a purpose other than just to read. You can trade them to a guy near Ghidona and pick between two special weapons. And yes, I can confirm this is present in the PC98 version. 🙂

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Great info! No, I had no idea. Maybe I should have looked at a walkthrough just to make sure I didn't miss anything. (I didn't ever feel like I needed one.) I found an image of the trader guy just now when I looked. I don't recall seeing him in the game, but then again I didn't have all the books anymore by that point since they were taking up so much space in my inventory. Wish now I had held on to them. Thanks for telling me though. Looks like there is a similar trader in IV so I will be sure not to miss it when I play that game.

    • @shawnji6139
      @shawnji6139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BasementBrothers No problem! I replayed the 98 version just last year (alongside the Saturn version, oddly enough), and it was an interesting experience. Really enjoyed the video, by the way! Not enough people talk about these games.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh yeah man I would love to spend more time with the Saturn version when I have a chance...

    • @shawnji6139
      @shawnji6139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BasementBrothers It's really neat! Obviously the big turn off for most people is the character design, but outside of that I really enjoyed seeing an alternate take on the material.
      I'm also trying to finish the PC98 version of LoHIV right now, but I'm attempting to do all the open scenario stuff and it's been challenging, to say the least. I hope you end up enjoying it, though!

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I played through LoHIV on the PC-98 decades ago and loved it! It's so different from the Windows and all the later remakes. Really challenging, but in a very fun way if you're willing to put in the time. Not sure I'll have the time to play through the entire thing again when I make a video about it, but we'll see.

  • @TopherBlairMusic
    @TopherBlairMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your Ys and Legend of Heroes series is youtube kino.

  • @Xpert74
    @Xpert74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a shame the combat is as flawed as it is. Personally, I'd still like to play this game someday, being a massive Trails fan myself. Interesting to hear exactly how each version compares to one another. Thank you for another great video ^_^

  • @eagix
    @eagix ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey! I was active on the turbo list back in the day - I wonder if we ever talked. I've made a PC Engine demo or two, and love the system. Anyway, really enjoying your PC-88 series! Great stuff :)

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We may have... but I was so young back then I probably wrote all kinds of stupid stuff that's better left forgotten. :)

    • @eagix
      @eagix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BasementBrothers Haha, you and me both :)

  • @RegalPixelKing
    @RegalPixelKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This game sounds like it might have been better if it was an entirely story based game without combat to speak of.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It practically is. lol
      Weirdly, even the story is quite slow-paced and doesn't pick up until near the end. Lots of people will probably find it dull. It's a talkative game where very little actually happens (throughout most of it). It's weird, but I'm fascinated that Falcom decided to make this back in '94. And the characters and story are classic and timeless to me, despite the slow pacing. Thanks for watching.

  • @thrashinuva
    @thrashinuva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My guy, I've been on somewhat of a binge of X68000, PC-88, PC-98, and some other OST's, ever since about a month or two ago. It was the result of youtube algorithm handing it to me and now I save everything I come across to a playlist so I can listen to it after I get through the list that's constantly building. I've shown some tracks to a friend, and you got algorithm'd to him, and now I'm here. I've come across some drop dead amazing soundtracks that really deserved to have gotten more recognition than they did, like Rall III. I probably won't ever be playing of these games, but I almost feel a dedication not to let these soundtracks waste away in the annals of history, even if it's just me that will listening.

  • @GuyDude-hk8uy
    @GuyDude-hk8uy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would already click on your videos when recommended, but I finally subscribed after the amazing "dancing on the table" segment.

  • @linkzerotsang
    @linkzerotsang ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I was a child in early 2000s I played the Windows version of ED3 first. I liked the semi-instant (and player-controllable) battle system pretty much. I didn't play the game much though. A few years later I suddenly wanted to pick it up and accidentally installed the DOS version...and was shocked by the auto battle system. That was so frustrating.
    I have never completed either title of the Gagharv Trilogy, but always have a soft spot in my heart for this series.

  • @RX79818
    @RX79818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you
    I was always so curious about the original version of this game
    I played the PSP version and enjoyed the story, but grew so dissatisfied with the battles and overall style that I almost didn’t finish it

  • @namunassa
    @namunassa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Windows versions of 3-5 are probably the best Legend of Heroes series ever and I've played every single game till the newest Kuro no Kiseki. I really hope there is a remake for current generation.

  • @Gomezli16
    @Gomezli16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These vids are comfy and informative! I can feel your nolstagia! It’s interesting learning about the Japanese PC scene in the 90’s. O’er here we just had Windows and Mac.

  • @xanadujin
    @xanadujin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG well we are best friends. Holy crap just found this channel. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yoroshiku!!

  • @OutlawOtaku
    @OutlawOtaku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We love Falcom games around here, don't we folks? This was very pleasant listening whilst playing Legend of Heroes Cold Steel IV. Thank you good sir!

  • @IkeSan
    @IkeSan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How I wish I could play the Windows version. The PSP versions look so bland. I don't like them.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, the Windows version is quite nice, and is of course a faithful adaptation of Falcom's original vision (since they made it themselves). Thanks for watching.

  • @rossdixonellis
    @rossdixonellis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That renewal version art looks so cozy and cool!

  • @thefivespokewheels
    @thefivespokewheels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really want to play this but Bandai Namco really messed up the English translations for the PSP versions and it's putting me off.

  • @oOGambitOo
    @oOGambitOo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Julio?. Julio?;
    It's all Latin to me, Bro! Don't Sweat it. And Keep beein' awesome!!

  • @RilsR
    @RilsR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Saturn Version really looks like it's what becomes Trails. Isometric game with spongey enemies.

  • @mzxa9988
    @mzxa9988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I played all the trilogy on psp when I was a kid and probably one of my most fav rpg on psp at that time. And even now I still in love with LoH series with the Zemuria series

  • @kristinopperman7931
    @kristinopperman7931 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought a Japanese Saturn just so I could play the Saturn version of the White Witch. And I really loved what Hudson did with it. It's so 90's anime style which breathes life into what was already a fun game about 2 young heroes going on a journey together. My only complaint was with the character designs to the adults. Like Morrison wtf is up with his hair? lol.

  • @allisonh2048
    @allisonh2048 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks as always for the cool peek at this awesome game! Like so many early Falcom games, I'd love to play them, but am not at a place to make the time and financial investment to procure them and study japanese. But your videos are so good that I feel like I know these games anyway now!

  • @ryanmckenzie7149
    @ryanmckenzie7149 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have the PSP version. I played it for about a week and became board with it. I want to give it another go now!

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't blame you. I got bored with the PSP version right away too.

  • @jordanazerad123
    @jordanazerad123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Being a huge trails fan this is so awesome to see some of falcoms history that sadly as an english speaker is rough to enjoy. Wish there was more content on PC-98 games in general

  • @Agostoic
    @Agostoic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro! I'm named Julio and I can tell you it's totally a real name 😂
    It's Spanish for Jules/July (as the month).
    And as you should know by now the Japanese L & R are almost indistinguishable to pronounce, so it's legit.
    Anyway, love your vids on 80s obscure jrpgs, cheers.

    • @serphence8566
      @serphence8566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The "julio" name is common in portuguese too. The pronounciation is different from spanish though, sounds pretty much like how it is first said in the vídeo too.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just in case it was not clear by my wording in the video. Yes, I am aware that Julio is a real name. Sorry if I have done a disservice to all the Julios of the world. Thanks for watching!

  • @binchillin888
    @binchillin888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool video. Japan really has kept too many of it's gems to itself

  • @rosiemcdamsel
    @rosiemcdamsel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for making these videos. I'm trying to learn Japanese so I can experience these old PC98 games for myself, but because of my ADHD it's going very slowly. So for now, this is the only way I can experience them.
    When it comes to this specific game, I listened to the soundtracks of the PC98 and Windows versions and loved them a lot. I wanted to play the PSP version since it was in English, but I couldn't stand the sleepy music, hahaha. The quest to learn Japanese continues...

  • @kagepoker
    @kagepoker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Basement Brothers. I'm dead 💀

  • @dmnsonic
    @dmnsonic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent as always. Thanks to share with us your experience with PC-98.

  • @captainthunderbolt7541
    @captainthunderbolt7541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The battle system makes it sound like a broken version of FFXII!

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's actually not a terrible comparison, now that you mention it.

  • @goddem123
    @goddem123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great work! This is FAVORITE Game in my life, I loooooooove Tirasweel and the trilogy.
    BUT “The legends of heroes IV" are two types of different
    game - System,Characters,and Story. I believe the old one is true "the second of trilogy".
    (PC98 and PS were original. Windows and PSP were remake - different thing. I wish you play both and love both.)
    Thanks!

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. Exactly right. The PC-98 version of IV is very different. With the Windows version they changed IV completely and all the later versions follow the Windows version. The PS1 version is the only port based on the original PC-98 version. Let's say the original PC-98 version is canon! Thanks for watching.

  • @Stoonk
    @Stoonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! Not sure how I have never seen this channel. You have been pumping out nonstop kino for years I can't wait to watch your entire backlog

  • @paulsutton9278
    @paulsutton9278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the first time in a long time I've seen anyone reference BT Garner's Turbo List! I'm geeking out so hard right now. Both it and its Saturn brother were so amazing and informative.

  • @chazmaru9583
    @chazmaru9583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent retrospective. Fell in love with the Saturn version as a kid.

  • @JoshuaJaeger
    @JoshuaJaeger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm gonna try the Saturn version!! Thanks for this episode! Lovely as always!

  • @AlexSlesh
    @AlexSlesh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol, cover art with foot fetish

  • @fakeshemp9599
    @fakeshemp9599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like the part where you compare the obscure ports to an already obscure game 👍

  • @daisukegori2112
    @daisukegori2112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anemoia. Nostalgia for something you have never experienced.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good word to know!

    • @daisukegori2112
      @daisukegori2112 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@BasementBrothers Your show is great. And I respect your dedication.

  • @miasma82
    @miasma82 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always liked the music in the legend of heroes games

  • @noeight5787
    @noeight5787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    HEYYY just to say that i freaking love your videos SO MUCH, been watching then basically every night before i sleep since i found your channel and i feel like i must thank you wholeheartdly. the whole 80s and 90s japanese pc-gaming scene is such a enchanting theme for people who love japanese games in general yet not at all easily accessible, your videos satiate a lot of my curiosity and honestly makes me appreciate all those games a lot. i hope that you can keep doing this as long as you wish to. i love the way you share your passion.

    • @fakeshemp9599
      @fakeshemp9599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well put! I wholeheartedly agree with this! Thank you basement brothers! For all that you do for us! We are not worthy!!

  • @stevethefishdotnet
    @stevethefishdotnet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neat. I just started playing the PSP version recently. I played the "first" game about 9 years ago, and at the time I did not know that the second game is actually the first! The music is boring, I think. Too bad it doesn't have the PC-98 music.

  • @AdamSommer70
    @AdamSommer70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!!! Thanks for posting

  • @SuperOtakuKyo
    @SuperOtakuKyo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hope one day a fan translation for the Gagharv trilogy happens.

    • @dangunheadachron1603
      @dangunheadachron1603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The PSP versions came out in English

    • @AshleyRiot
      @AshleyRiot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dangunheadachron1603 it’s bad though lol

    • @SuperOtakuKyo
      @SuperOtakuKyo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dangunheadachron1603 The PSP translations are terrible and the gameplay is a downgrade from previous versions

    • @Walamonga1313
      @Walamonga1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully they get rerelease, I'll emulate the PSP version meanwhile tho

    • @ThomasJeff1898
      @ThomasJeff1898 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good news, the same group behind the translations of the Crossbell arc, The Geofront, is confirmed to be doing the translation for the Garghav trilogy (specifically the Windows PC version). Starting with this one of course. If you are curious, look it up for yourself.

  • @MrDarkNao
    @MrDarkNao 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That psx version looks like gba with shit zoom too.

  • @JohnsonLobster
    @JohnsonLobster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jurio seems like Engrish to you? Well... it is...

  • @besotoxicomusic
    @besotoxicomusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky First and Second Chapters were my favorite RPGs of all time. I really need to go back and play the other ones.

  • @jacksnap425
    @jacksnap425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video. Love your channel.

  • @thousandyoung
    @thousandyoung 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a Sucker for Japanese Spritework.

  • @moomah5929
    @moomah5929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of me more or less getting every version of Ultima games under the sun. xD
    If only PC98 and X68k hardware (and often games too) wouldn't be so expensive nowadays and I would not be running out of space with all the PCs, consoles and home computers plus all the physical games I already own. We even thought about moving into a bigger place for more space to expend the collection...
    From the early Legend of Heroes titles, I only own them for my PC Engine Duo (DS I & II), Mega Drive (DS II) and SNES (DS I), still missing the Saturn versions (except for the first Dragon Slayer in the Falcom Classics I) for my most beloved console. While we also have the new ones like the Trails of Cold Steel series, I wish the series would return to more fantasy again. I'm not so keen on this steampunky school setting.
    That the original version feels so special might also be due to the dithered graphics of back then. They have their own charm.
    Btw, many JRPGs, especially Falcom ones are having far too much text that doesn't advance the story or characters. It's like filling and padding your RPG out with small talk. And don't get me started on the Manga/Anime tropes... And I'm a RPG player of many PC RPGs, who is used to far more text than your typical console RPG had in the 90s. Still love to collect and play them from time to time. Still missing many and find the Japanese PC versions especially hard to find.
    PS: I always have to laugh when seeing Japanese in concerts waving glowy sticks instead of lighters. Simply doesn't give the same cool vibes as the latter and rather feels like everyone gets a stick pressed into their hands when entering.

  • @robintst
    @robintst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I usually give JRPGs in medieval fantasy settings some leeway on whether or not something sounds too Engrish and I wouldn't have questioned the Jurio/Julio name thing, but once you pointed it out I couldn't unsee it, haha. I agree Julio sounds better. Jurio has a harder sound and feels like it would be attached to a rougher type of character.

  • @DezorianGuy
    @DezorianGuy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The cover art is why I clicked on your video. You should change your attitude towards great falcon artworks.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh I love it of course! It's part of what made me so fascinated with the game before I even played it. It's also why I used it for the thumbnail.

    • @DezorianGuy
      @DezorianGuy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BasementBrothers Then it's cool.

  • @AceWing905
    @AceWing905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:20 I can read a considerable amount of Japanese and also know what 英雄伝説 is, and I still have trouble reading that title

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL yeah. Good point. That is a bit of a crazy font too.

  • @ninten2112
    @ninten2112 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's crazy how I've never played any version of this game, yet this has my favorite soundtrack out of the PC-88/98 games, and it's the one PC98 game, besides Madou Monogatari, that I've always wanted to play.

  • @mekman4
    @mekman4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these old games too. My brother championed his Turbo Graphx 16 and Turbo Duo, he even bought a PC FX, so your content is a great source of nostalgia for me. The Legend of Heroes 4 looks visually interesting and thanks for the heads up on the PS5 continuation of the series! Now I’m going to check that out as well! Don’t be shy about continuing with the Neo Geo software, they still make great games! Great Stuff, as always.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh yeah I've got a complete set of all the PC-FX games and would love to make some videos about those too if there is much interest. My brother is working on the Fatal Fury video now so watch for it in the future. Thanks for watching.

  • @ChoosenOneStudios
    @ChoosenOneStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great look at an interesting game! You have my encouragement to be as personal as you want--this series is really great and I like the personal touches and the more impersonal "this is the facts" weaving you do. It's very clear that you want to be thorough, and I doubt indulging your personal stories will ever take away from that.

  • @kdesano8
    @kdesano8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just finished my 2nd falcom game, Tear of Vermilion(1st is Moonlight Witch). I'm currently inlove with their games.
    This is a nice video to see how their games evolve throughout the time.

  • @SonnoMaku
    @SonnoMaku ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the way all of these PC-98 games look but I can't read Japanese so I have to rely on videos like this. Thanks, I really appreciate this video.

  • @chafacorpTV
    @chafacorpTV 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how this channel is a window to a world I would normally just idealize and fantasize about. Thanks for your diligence towards all of non nihongo speaking weebs out there. You have the goddess blessing.

  • @AceaIvalia
    @AceaIvalia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was one of the games that got me hooked on JRPG or RPG in general. There were a few others I played and loved in (J)RPG genre, but White Witch really left lasting impact (story, music...)

  • @Alpenjodler1
    @Alpenjodler1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahhh! I like to make that same joke regarding AI! One day I'll be able to make my computer suffer when it pisses me off again!

  • @Bram7Lawliet
    @Bram7Lawliet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    woah shiroki no majo for saturn just reminded me with popolocrois because the isometric and battle too!

  • @Comrade_Hee-Ho
    @Comrade_Hee-Ho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see a fan translation of the Renewal version of the game. My Japanese isn't that good yet but I hope I get to improve to play many other Falcom games like this one

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, the Renewal version is the one to play on the PC-98. If an English patch was made, though, it would probably be pretty easy to apply it to either the Renewal or original release version of the game since they're so similar. Game saves are also (mostly) bi-compatible. Thanks for watching.

  • @aetc914
    @aetc914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    💪🏼😎

  • @SkyYuyo
    @SkyYuyo ปีที่แล้ว

    My first legend of heroes game was the next game for the PSP The Legend of Heroes: A Tear of Vermillion before I knew it was a series. I really enjoyed the characters in that game but man was there a lot of grammar and spelling mistakes in it for a official release, the most I ever seen in any game I played. Looking at what was shown of this game it looks like the PSP version of this game didnt have this issue. Seems like this was release after The Legend of Heroes: A Tear of Vermillion in NA by year. Not sure if they just machine translated before or got better translators then.

  • @ashleyward3277
    @ashleyward3277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The translations for the English PSP releases of the Gagharv Trilogy was poor and personally I think the PC-98 and Windows versions look much nicer (the visual style of the PSP versions is just so ugly compared to the other versions), and I prefer their versions of the OSTs too.
    I'd love an English translation (either an official or a fan translation) of the Windows versions of these games so I could play them at least somewhat like Falcom intended.
    I definitely resonate with that comment in this video about this channel giving me nostalgia for games I've never played! These games are so fascinating to me and if I could read Japanese I'd love to get a PC-88/98 and play some of these games for myself.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      During the brief time I played the PSP version to capture footage, the translation seemed serviceable. The original story was definitely there, and nothing stood out as blatantly wrong or bad... other than maybe a few spellings of characters and places that were not what I was expecting. Maybe it was a little dry I guess. What do fans say is the main problem with it? (I don't really have a pony in this race since I just play the Japanese versions anyway, but I'm still kind of curious.)

    • @HowManyRobot
      @HowManyRobot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BasementBrothers IIRC, around when it came out I heard a lot of people complaining about how dry it was, and that the main characters didn't feel like childhood friends in the localization.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. It seemed a little dry I guess. Localization is hard...

    • @ashleyward3277
      @ashleyward3277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@BasementBrothers Pretty much what How Many Robot said; it felt dry to me, and felt as if they did the bare minimum. In addition to that, I remember some dialogue during my playthrough not making much sense either. It's a shame, as I do actually like the stories of the Gagharv games, and I love the look of the older versions of these games a lot more than the PSP ones we got in the West.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah the old style pixel art has really aged better than those 2.5D PSP graphics IMO. You can really feel the "history" of the games too by playing the original versions.

  • @BrianLTanner
    @BrianLTanner 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was a SNES and NES player back then. I just thought that looked like crap even forcing myself to see the gameplay from the ‘92 perspective. Glitchy movement and subpar graphics. Looked very very PC. I hate keyboards!!

  • @Natreg44
    @Natreg44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to a comparison for Tear of Vermillion. That one is really a completely different game on PC-98 than Windows.
    I think the Windows version also added a lot of subevents here and there. I don't get why the PSP version for Witch Witch was based on PC-98 (except for the FMVs) whereas the PSP version of Tear of Vermillion was based on windows.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. Exactly. The PC-98 version of IV is like a completely different game. Can't wait to play it again to capture footage. (I haven't started yet. Too busy playing Kuro no Kiseki II. Might do a different game before I make a video about IV.)

  • @texben123
    @texben123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh, I know that each of the games are in a different dimension.
    Dragon slayer , Legends of heroes 1-2 planet is on earth 2 billion years in the future, and actually connect to Tokyo, Xanadu, 2000 years later.
    And legends of heroes 3-5 happening in another world in a pocket dimension. but it split into three worlds.
    The trail series is on another world and it has an artificial barrier around the world, which is in a pocket dimension .
    Ys series is also in a pocket dimension right next to Nayuta’s world which is also in a pocket dimension as well.
    Pretty much all these games are in different dimensions but they’re in the same universe , for some reason I guess 2 billion years ago humanity decided to put all the worlds in a pocket dimensions
    And the funny thing is, that’s actually how Multiverse works , but I mean in real life in nature.
    Pretty much the universe itself have multiple black holes and those black holes have a small universe or a pocket dimension, which is a Multiverse actually works because our universe is in a black hole .😅😅😅😅😅

  • @tylerlacor8116
    @tylerlacor8116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jurio does sound Engrish 😆

  • @Gridseeker
    @Gridseeker ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact: "Julio" in Spanish means "Jule" and yes, it's a very common male name. Also, the Spanish spelling at 8:10 is quite accurate.

  • @mikigirl18
    @mikigirl18 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The US psp version is actually the first game I played on the console.

  • @Diorphe
    @Diorphe หลายเดือนก่อน

    pretty sure the cover art is from the same author of the manga "EMANON" he is a legend.

  • @CraigPeds1
    @CraigPeds1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy sounds like Jet Black from Cowboy Bebop

  • @ShinobiNeon
    @ShinobiNeon ปีที่แล้ว

    The art for the PSP version of Legend of Heroes 2 looks very similar to the art from the original Valkyrie Profile. Probably the same artist.