+Yrezifity Become a shaker (one who salvages cedar blocks used for shakes and shingles not the religious folks) and you will get plenty of heli time to enjoy beautiful British Columbia from a flying brick.
Imagine being lost in the backwoods, hearing a helicopter, seeing it land. A guy gets out to take a video for his TH-cam channel, and then your only hope of rescue takes off xD
That's not wrong. 747 are often on large routes that go over oceans. Granted a failure of all engines is very unlikely... if it happens, the 747 has absolutely no chance of avoiding a fatal crash.
Depends on the loading of the aircraft as to how many can fail. Generally 1-2 things are not brilliant but manageable. More and its between a semi-sustained glide and a glider. Though it does have a reasonable glide ratio of 15:1 or so and losing an engine at 40,000feet would mean it could glide around 183km, more if it had one engine.
@@wes89 No? The engine itself can't "explode" - well actually it does all the time. At least the propellant does. The tanks with propellant can explode, but not the engine itself
I was a U.S. Army helicopter pilot and part of my time spent in the Army was as an instructor pilot. I taught the 1st 50 hours of flight instruction., out of a 210 hr. course. Before our students moved onto the 2nd phase of instruction they had to learn and complete 3 solo autorotations (to touchdown). Scores of practice autorotations were done prior to that. When an autorotation is entered the pilot bottoms out the collective, applies pedal to keep to aircraft from yawing and turns into the wind, looking for a suitable landing area. The aircraft is put into an angle of descent that keeps the rotor RPM at an optimal speed. At NO time is the collective used to control the rotor speed during descent. Just before touchdown the aircraft is flared (to slow it down), leveled out, and then collective is applied to soften the landing.
Yes but different helos have different tolerances and some, depending on altitude the autorotation is preformd, can over speed their rotors before reaching flare altitude if the collective is bottomed out too long on a steep decent with a heavy load and fuel.
Thanks for this clarifying info... The vid tho informative yet not specific enough as your explanations. Still, thought of something like this as well (i m not a pilot but do interested to becomes one, 😊) and your's just nailed it. Thanks.
I assume you were stationed in Alabama where Destin and I live...must admit, I lived close to the base (Ft. Rucker) where Army Helicopter Pilots train and it's seriously void of nearly everything except humidity, mosquitos, snakes, and lots and lots of flat land...I did throw out the 1st pitch at an AU vs AL baseball game in 2010-2011 or so at the historic building and ballyard with the river behind it and a railroad going through the outfield (or did)...kinda cool...By the way, my Uncle was Adjunct General of MS Air National Guard for years and Commanded the Air Base on Meridian, MS...he's been retired probably 20 yrs now though...initials are M.S....may know him...great guy...my favorite uncle and aunt by the way...
Collective IS used to control RRPM during descent. Too low then lower collective to reduce pitch on the blades. RRPM too high, increase collective to increase pitch and therefore slow down the rotor disc.
@@tactcom7 I taught in the TH-55A (the Army's primary trainer at the time). We entered autorotation by bottoming the collective, and it stayed there until you flared out and then raised it to soften the landing. The proper glide path (and therefore the airspeed and rotor rpm) was achieved by raising or lowering the nose.
Magnaniman Sure, but I learned about how helicopters could Autorotate back when I was a teenager... It was just common sense. The amount of energy stored in a set of rotating blades can be amazing...
Tyson is a genius and knowledgeable in astrophysics and other science stuff. However that doesn't necessarily mean he will know common sense engineering facts. A smart man knows where he is smart and where he isn't until proven otherwise. :p
***** www.naturalnews.com/047203_Neil_deGrasse_Tyson_fabrication_Wikipedia.html www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/21/scientists-who-are-actually-really-stupid-1-neil-degrasse-tyson/ It doesn't take that long to google.
well, it glides according to these guys, if you put it in the correct mode. Don't panic and forget or you are toast. Most people who die in choppers collide either with other " planes" or obstacles. It is collisions that kill them. A few make mistakes in fancy maneuvers as they lose their lift. Got to be on top of a chopper. It is constant review of attitude, speed and altitude......
I work on MH60R's and autorotation is great in the event of an engine failure. But the engines (at least on h60's) are the most reliable aspect of the bird. The problem lies in that if there is ANY failure other than an engine(i.e. Gearboxes, driveshafts, Hydraulics, ect... the things that fail most often) autorotation is virtually useless and we are right back to the falling brick.
Sorry, but other then the main rotors falling off you are completely wrong. splitting the needles separates the rotor system thru the clutch from the engine, trans, tail rotor, hydraulics etc.
kevin vt Check your facts as I think you are a little misguided. First your statement in and of itself is contradictory. The only way you can autorotate a helo is if the main rotor and tail rotor are connected. If the tail rotor is EVER disconnected from the main rotor the helo will instantly start to spin out of control and crash. Which defeats the purpose of autorotation. Look up some vids of what happens to a helo when a drive shaft breaks. Also I don't know what you're talking about (never heard of "splitting the needles" I asked around and no one here had ever heard of that before either including my senior chief who has worked on these things for 24 years) but in an mh60 the ONLY clutch is the one that disengages the engines from the main rotor. The main rotor is part of the main gear box it so if the mgb or transmission as you call it fails the rotor will stop spinning or spin out of sync with the tail rotor and either way autorotation wont work.. The drive shafts are bolted directly to the MGB and TGB. which is bolted directly to the tail rotor. There are no clutches outside of the engine to MGB clutches. Ive written enough so far but you are wrong on pretty much everything you said.
I did a quick NTSB search after what you said and didn't notice any mh60 accidents due to gearbox, driveshaft, or hydraulics failures. Not that I don't believe you. Maybe I'm not searching right. Could you point to some of the accident reports? www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/index.aspx
1dgram Let me rephrase, I currently work on MH60s but they are relatively new to the navy. They were just introduced to squadrons in the last few years but before that I worked on SH60Bs. With a few exceptions SH60s are mechanically identical to the MH60. Which is where you will find most of the NTSB records. The one i personally have knowledge of is a/c 505 an SH60B from HSL-48(now HSM-48 since since they also transitioned to MH60R). In 2006 a/c 505 went down after a complete hydraulics failure. Honestly to my knowledge i dont think we have lost a Romeo a/c yet knock on wood. But the mh60s are virtually brand new with very few hours. Compare that to the SH60s that have thousands sometimes upwards of 10 thousand hours on them. So relatively speaking most of those components still have a lot of life left in them.
When I was in the USN my squadron CO retired with 38 years of service and logged over 12,000 hours in 30 different aircraft. I thought 12k was a number I would never hear being topped. I am humbled by 16k hours. That’s incredible
@@TheBeeMan1994 Flight hours only include time that you’re actually in the air, not time when you’re prepping the craft or doing other things. As a professional pilot I doubt he was in the air every second of the workday so I think he has many more years of experience as a pilot under his belt.
And for Robinson helicopters, the Hobbs Meter (which tracks flight time in tenths of an hour for those unfamiliar), only counts when the collective is lifted up. So that means that even his time getting the engine started and pre-flight don't count even when the engine is on like airplanes and jets. The guy has a TON of experience.
@smartereveryday Come with us hang gliding down in Houston Texas and learn how we fly our unpowered gliders for hours at a time. I'm a tandem instructor I'll take you up!
@ I understand the devastation after loosing a loved one. However, you can't say its morally wrong to risk your life for fun. There is risk in everything we do in life. Accidents happen.
+SmarterEveryDay hey Dustin. I was wondering how sun has a effect on tides. even though earth is orbiting the sun , right.. ISS doesn't feel the gravity of earth. but why earth should feel it on earth -sun system
It's not the youtube. It's the people. Kobe *dies* Millions of people on yt search: can a helicopter land despite engine failure can a helicopter glide like a plane does helicopter fall like a brick during engine failure ... So after a while it gets recommended because it's trending again.
Which raises the question.. was his helicopter pilot a noob? I was a wheeled vehicle mechanic in a US Army Chinook company and I knew what an autorotation is and at least the basics of it. & It was nowhere near my MOS to know that. Probably part of why every aviation warrant officer in the unit offered to sign the papers needed for me to go to WOCS for pilot.. even though those papers only need two warrant officer's signatures. But I didn't take them up on it. The dumb 💩 young idiots do 😣 just like in basic when my back was probably less than millimeters away from literally being broken I went with the super soldier approach instead of going to the medics.. driven in part by the early 2000s drill sergeant push against sick call rangers that would go to sick call for things as stupid as paper cuts, or things even stupider than that.
I'm not sure how many of you here have practiced STALLS in small aircraft or Autorotation drills in a helicopter - but concentrating when you're falling and your heart is in your mouth is the stuff of legend.
In my military career I was both an Army and an Air Force instructor pilot in the UH-1 Huey helicopter. Army pilots are trained to make autorotation landings that slide after touchdown (like Gerry did). The Air Force required touchdowns to have no slide because you are more likely to land on a soft surface - dirt, mud, water, treetops, etc - than you are a runway. This was done by just before landing pulling the nose up to reduce forward speed and to build rotor RPM, then transitioning to a hovering autorotation (just as if your engine failed in a hover). I always thought the Air Force way was a better idea.
I concur. I was taught to slide it on. But as civil pilot, I was later taught that the helicopter could do much better. So I practiced 0 airspeed landings. I flew both Hueys and Apache's in the Army and later received great training from Bell at their training academy.
+Phillip Tunstall He was a great sport. I thought his opening line in his initial email response was super classy: "Destin, Happy to be the foil for your helicopter video."
+karlkarl93 1. This is obviously intended for Destin. 2. If you don't know what something means, and the comment isn't intended for you, why on Earth would you jump in with a "What?". Tip: He means the video itself. Google can tell you the rest.
+Walter Spurer It's been 1344 days since CSGO has been released. You've played over 666 days of CSGO. You've spent half of your entire time(minus 12 days) playing the game since its release. You're either joking(read: bullshitting), or you need help.
+SmarterEveryDay my grandpa said if the engine locks up instantly the drive shaft for the propeller it will break it Frome the force and it will keep spinning and that fan thing stuff
+SmarterEveryDay I wonder if you still have the same respect for Obama now that he is ordering schools to accommodate transgender students. He says he is Christian but his policies seem contrary to Christian morals.
I had one of those cheap $50 drones, and I noticed this same concept when I would kill the motors. It fell so slowly it could easily survive a fall onto grass.
+DJhartson they are not controllable in their version of auto-rotation - they turn into maple leaf seedlings, where the rotors are basically providing a parachute effect... without the pull on the cords at the end. -Shawn
You should look into gyrocopters. They fly entirely on autorotation. People don't know that the main (top) rotor is not actually powered, its driven by incoming wind speed from forward momentum which is why they don't need a tail rotor to balance the rotational forces. Its all driven by the rear rotor that only pushes the aircraft forward.
I like how Niel Tyson made a statement that turned out to be wrong and instead of trying to justify or deny it, he atmitted it and wanted to learn the truth. That's what sience is all about, finding out the truth and adjusting your previous findings to better truths.
@@hotrodray9884 I hate the falling part of rock climbing even though it’s perfectly safe if you are belayed correctly. Sometimes we are afraid of things even though we know they are (mostly) safe.
Thanks for the warning. Because you have your ticket doesn't mean you're a good nor safe pilot. If you're afraid of anything you may want to look at something else like wine tester.
It's about the mentality of looking for opportunities to get personally smarter everyday. It's his goal for himself and his videos share insight and entertainment into the process
+SmarterEveryDay As a college professor of mine said, "think that you may be wrong". I live my life that way every day and it makes a world of difference.
+kirkelicious No, checking your actually right before you make a fool of yourself by advertising your opinions, much more scientific. All it would've taken is one google search. Eg, "Do helicopters drop like bricks" -> no. Not really too much to ask where your opinion will then make it to millions of other people, many of whom won't know better, and will now be misinformed, even ardent about it, because they heard about it from a man, who should've known better. Life advice, stay off twitter
+kirkelicious When u are a smart person, you realize you are rarely "wrong". Instead of seeing it as something wrong, you should view it as "You have just learned something."
Interesting fact: There's an aircraft called an AutoGyro or gyroplane. They're basically airplanes that don't get their lift from fixed wings, but by rotary wings on autorotation alone as part of their normal operation. They have a large swamp boat-like propeller on the back that keeps the aircraft moving forward. The blades are not attached to the engine and provide lift by autorotation alone.
+bluetorch13 yeah you are right about that, but I think the proportions are a little to wild to scale up, the helicopter wing would be gigantic. :p MegaMoth :D
@@BobAndrews69 well I'm sorry aybe oneday you will given the reason for you not liking my name because you don't like Jesus but I'm sorry to hear that I hope you will oneday given that be the reason
was this in response to me? I didn't say anything about being a Christian, while I am not religious in Destin's case I don't really mind, he doesn't shove it down our throats and he has a nice balance of science and religion he also seems open minded and friendly. I respect his choice to be religious and im sure he respects my choice for not being religious as long as i am not hurting anyone or hating on religious people :)
LoL! Plane wreckage parts at 1:39 aren't too encouraging. Reminds me the time I went to the grass field to fly and on the way there a cop and ambulance passed me on the road the airport is on. I pulled in, both were parked there when a guy walks around the hanger covered in blood. He only had a cut on his arm but it was quite unsettling.
That's the wreckage of an old Mitchell B-25 that crashed in the 1950's while on a training exercise. Official cause of the crash was icing but from the condition one of the propellers is in it seems like an engine failed before impact.
Awesome vid. I didn't know choppers could do this, some amazing engineering went into that for sure. And I will grab some kiwi crates on my way out. Btw, big fan of NDT as well, didn't expect him to be on the video.
To be fair, he studies physics, I'd expect that response if it was elon musk. He's not in the same field as someone like elon who's focusing on take off physics etc. Wish I could word this better but the proper term for what elon studied isn't coming to mind
@@19jthomas86 ye ikr all these ppl thinking bcs he has physics in his name (although he is an astrophysicist) that he should know about helicopters. plus that wasn't even his point he meant that the propellers weren't spinning.
Its true, science shows IQ is genetic, but certain political parties hate this inconvenient truth and will go to great lengths to hide this fact and keep it from the public and they can then insert their own version of reality.
+Jonksy He's complimenting Destin on being a better scientist than secular scientists typically give christian scientists credit for. seems pretty clear...
CantripGhost Well, I don't really want to get into this, but the boat is the least of the problems. CantripGhost The fact that secular scientists look down on Christians does not mean that secular scientists discredit Christian scientists. So, no, I do not feel that his comment is clear.
1. I thought every helicopter pilot is forced to learn autorotation before they can be certified. This video makes it seem like only masters know the trick. 2. I thought that they don't have to switch from powered to free-rotating - the rotor automatically freewheels when the rotor is spinning faster than the engine. Not only is this safer (there's no switch to break), but it has the extra benefit of allowing one to quickly bring the engine speed up if they are training and landing too fast.
1. Just because every pilot is required to be able to perform an autorotation doesn't mean it's a great idea to perform an autorotation landing on purpose _with a passenger_. It makes every bit of sense to have a flight instructor do it since performing such demonstrations is part of their job. 2. He just phrased it poorly. What they did was cut power to idle and use the collective to make the air drive the rotor, causing the freewheel clutch to disengage the rotor from the engine.
of course heli pilots do these maneuvers during their check rides. Got to learn how to do the safety first and foremost. The video is going for sensationalism......Basic stuff is for all pilots, not just the experienced guys.......
Awesome video Destin. I'm going to go get my kiwi crate momentarily. I would however like to know more about that plane crash you guys flew over. It looks like it hit the ground like a brick.
+mute8s It was a crash of a Canadian Air Force B-25 high in the mountains from back in 1953. Unfortunately 3 men lost their lives. I would love it if you got a kiwi crate. I like their product so much I reached out to them and asked them if I could advertise for them.
SmarterEveryDay Wow those parts seemed to be in remarkable condition for having crashed in 1953. I'll dig around the net and see if i can find more info. Thanks for the reply and keep the great videos coming!
You mentioned that the helicopter blades act like a big fan blowing down the air. It has long been my impression that the blades generate lift by the Bernoulli effect with the top of the blade pulling up much more than the bottom of the blade pushes down. ??
+WarriorX almost, it's why gyro's blades are angled back, but the airflow from the engine also contributes to them turning and they are at a fixed pitch so no cyclic to "flair" the blade angle for a vertical landing. Early helicopters where/are often mistaken for gyro's as the power came from a front mounted radial engine that retained a small prop to blow air over the air-cooled motor.
Somewhat like a gyrocopter and exactly like a gyroglider, like the ones they used to tow behind submarines. Those can also release the tow rope and glide down. Not over water of course.
So glad you hit me up when you came to town. Was a blast flying with you, and thanks for the shoutout!
You are great! Fly safe :)
+Bradley Friesen Man, I'd give my kidney for a tour in that helicopter.
Awesome stuff
those beard is awesome man
+Yrezifity Become a shaker (one who salvages cedar blocks used for shakes and shingles not the religious folks) and you will get plenty of heli time to enjoy beautiful British Columbia from a flying brick.
Imagine being lost in the backwoods, hearing a helicopter, seeing it land. A guy gets out to take a video for his TH-cam channel, and then your only hope of rescue takes off xD
I mean he technically landed twice. He had to land once to drop off the camera.
1:41 *joyful music plays over a plane wreck*
I thought about that too
those were just props obviously placed there by Neil, for this video!
looks like a dc-3 debris
Where was this filmed
@@basstion4146 that is clearly stated if you watch the video.
"Is daddy making you say this?"
"Noo!" *perfectly in sync*
8:21
XD
I think he is making them say that
well I have more then 10000 hours in life and I still havent mastered it...
This is deep...
@@nitin-pillai r/im14andthisisdeep
Rust meme?
noob😂
Not knowing the difference between "then" and "than" says it all.
just some random airplane crash debris... no big deal lol
Which airplane though?
Alex now we’re asking the real questions here.
Hehe
Alex it looks like a ww2 bomber
Vine God it was a Canadian B-25
A 747 doesnt turn into a glider if its engines fail, it turns into a world news event.
wrong. so very wrong.
Prove it.
That's not wrong. 747 are often on large routes that go over oceans. Granted a failure of all engines is very unlikely... if it happens, the 747 has absolutely no chance of avoiding a fatal crash.
Depends on the loading of the aircraft as to how many can fail. Generally 1-2 things are not brilliant but manageable. More and its between a semi-sustained glide and a glider. Though it does have a reasonable glide ratio of 15:1 or so and losing an engine at 40,000feet would mean it could glide around 183km, more if it had one engine.
interesting, I didn't know that.
And when a rocket's engines fail, It literally becomes a bomb
When rocket engines explode**
@@wes89 No? The engine itself can't "explode" - well actually it does all the time. At least the propellant does. The tanks with propellant can explode, but not the engine itself
The Proper Communist Russia, you better be taking notes.
😂
No they turn into fireworks
Lose an engine, you might be able to autorotate. Lose a gearbox and you turn into a brick! ;-)
Peter Hawkins yep, couldnt think of anything scarier than a boxfailure in a chopper
Depends which gearbox...
No, you will still be able to autorotate.
Losing a gearbox in a 44? Losing a gearbox in a turbine
=dead!
@@dtiydr what if it jams up
1:34
Are we going to completely ignore the fact there is plane wreckage and debris?
Strange they didn't mention that!
That's the guy that landed his plane like a brick.
Hey! No ill will here, just wanted to let you know its spelled debris. Getting smarter every day :)
I was wondering if like nobody is going to talk about it :D
That looks like a WW2 era CRAF fighter.
Am I the only one amused by how it's a video about crashing air vehicles and the length of the video is 9:11?
No?
Ok...
+Raul Kolk Half Life 3 confirmed.
it's 9/12 minutes
+Raul Kolk More amused by how we see actual crashed airplanes at 1:34
I was a U.S. Army helicopter pilot and part of my time spent in the Army was as an instructor pilot. I taught the 1st 50 hours of flight instruction., out of a 210 hr. course. Before our students moved onto the 2nd phase of instruction they had to learn and complete 3 solo autorotations (to touchdown). Scores of practice autorotations were done prior to that.
When an autorotation is entered the pilot bottoms out the collective, applies pedal to keep to aircraft from yawing and turns into the wind, looking for a suitable landing area. The aircraft is put into an angle of descent that keeps the rotor RPM at an optimal speed. At NO time is the collective used to control the rotor speed during descent. Just before touchdown the aircraft is flared (to slow it down), leveled out, and then collective is applied to soften the landing.
Yes but different helos have different tolerances and some, depending on altitude the autorotation is preformd, can over speed their rotors before reaching flare altitude if the collective is bottomed out too long on a steep decent with a heavy load and fuel.
Thanks for this clarifying info... The vid tho informative yet not specific enough as your explanations. Still, thought of something like this as well (i m not a pilot but do interested to becomes one, 😊) and your's just nailed it. Thanks.
I assume you were stationed in Alabama where Destin and I live...must admit, I lived close to the base (Ft. Rucker) where Army Helicopter Pilots train and it's seriously void of nearly everything except humidity, mosquitos, snakes, and lots and lots of flat land...I did throw out the 1st pitch at an AU vs AL baseball game in 2010-2011 or so at the historic building and ballyard with the river behind it and a railroad going through the outfield (or did)...kinda cool...By the way, my Uncle was Adjunct General of MS Air National Guard for years and Commanded the Air Base on Meridian, MS...he's been retired probably 20 yrs now though...initials are M.S....may know him...great guy...my favorite uncle and aunt by the way...
Collective IS used to control RRPM during descent. Too low then lower collective to reduce pitch on the blades. RRPM too high, increase collective to increase pitch and therefore slow down the rotor disc.
@@tactcom7 I taught in the TH-55A (the Army's primary trainer at the time). We entered autorotation by bottoming the collective, and it stayed there until you flared out and then raised it to soften the landing. The proper glide path (and therefore the airspeed and rotor rpm) was achieved by raising or lowering the nose.
I simply can not believe that Neil Tyson was not aware of Autorotation...
I think that Neil will be the first person to admit that no one knows everything, including him.
Magnaniman Sure, but I learned about how helicopters could Autorotate back when I was a teenager... It was just common sense. The amount of energy stored in a set of rotating blades can be amazing...
Tyson is a genius and knowledgeable in astrophysics and other science stuff.
However that doesn't necessarily mean he will know common sense engineering facts.
A smart man knows where he is smart and where he isn't until proven otherwise. :p
Neil is a fraud.
*****
www.naturalnews.com/047203_Neil_deGrasse_Tyson_fabrication_Wikipedia.html
www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/21/scientists-who-are-actually-really-stupid-1-neil-degrasse-tyson/
It doesn't take that long to google.
my numerous hours in arma 3 have taught me this
taught*
thnx bub
+domo is back that what was I was thinking through out this video as well. I need a life
domo is back me too haha
domo is back I am on Arma 3 right now using ACE
-helicopter falls like a brick, but with a parachute
Helicopter falls like a brick with rotary wings and a lot of energy built up and ready to release to generate thrust and break its fall.
Helicopter falls like a sycamore seed.
@@migueeeelet
BOOM! That is the best analogy for autorotation I've heard so far.
well, it glides according to these guys, if you put it in the correct mode. Don't panic and forget or you are toast. Most people who die in choppers collide either with other " planes" or obstacles. It is collisions that kill them. A few make mistakes in fancy maneuvers as they lose their lift. Got to be on top of a chopper. It is constant review of attitude, speed and altitude......
Actually, a helicopter falls like a brick with a working knowledge in physics.
Isnt that weird that this is in my recommended videos just a few minutes after kobe death?
Man
I was finna say this but you said it
Kobe’s helicopter didn’t lose an engine, they flew into the ground in heavy fog, they probably didn’t see it coming or only saw it at the last second.
Kobe’s helicopter didn’t have the low altitude warning sensor in it and they couldn’t see very well resulting in his crash...
That's TH-cam algorithm for ya, enjoy
-TH-cam
I work on MH60R's and autorotation is great in the event of an engine failure. But the engines (at least on h60's) are the most reliable aspect of the bird. The problem lies in that if there is ANY failure other than an engine(i.e. Gearboxes, driveshafts, Hydraulics, ect... the things that fail most often) autorotation is virtually useless and we are right back to the falling brick.
Bummer :/
Sorry, but other then the main rotors falling off you are completely wrong. splitting the needles separates the rotor system thru the clutch from the engine, trans, tail rotor, hydraulics etc.
kevin vt Check your facts as I think you are a little misguided. First your statement in and of itself is contradictory. The only way you can autorotate a helo is if the main rotor and tail rotor are connected. If the tail rotor is EVER disconnected from the main rotor the helo will instantly start to spin out of control and crash. Which defeats the purpose of autorotation. Look up some vids of what happens to a helo when a drive shaft breaks. Also I don't know what you're talking about (never heard of "splitting the needles" I asked around and no one here had ever heard of that before either including my senior chief who has worked on these things for 24 years) but in an mh60 the ONLY clutch is the one that disengages the engines from the main rotor. The main rotor is part of the main gear box it so if the mgb or transmission as you call it fails the rotor will stop spinning or spin out of sync with the tail rotor and either way autorotation wont work.. The drive shafts are bolted directly to the MGB and TGB. which is bolted directly to the tail rotor. There are no clutches outside of the engine to MGB clutches. Ive written enough so far but you are wrong on pretty much everything you said.
I did a quick NTSB search after what you said and didn't notice any mh60 accidents due to gearbox, driveshaft, or hydraulics failures. Not that I don't believe you. Maybe I'm not searching right. Could you point to some of the accident reports? www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/index.aspx
1dgram
Let me rephrase, I currently work on MH60s but they are relatively new to the navy. They were just introduced to squadrons in the last few years but before that I worked on SH60Bs. With a few exceptions SH60s are mechanically identical to the MH60. Which is where you will find most of the NTSB records. The one i personally have knowledge of is a/c 505 an SH60B from HSL-48(now HSM-48 since since they also transitioned to MH60R). In 2006 a/c 505 went down after a complete hydraulics failure. Honestly to my knowledge i dont think we have lost a Romeo a/c yet knock on wood. But the mh60s are virtually brand new with very few hours. Compare that to the SH60s that have thousands sometimes upwards of 10 thousand hours on them. So relatively speaking most of those components still have a lot of life left in them.
When I was in the USN my squadron CO retired with 38 years of service and logged over 12,000 hours in 30 different aircraft. I thought 12k was a number I would never hear being topped. I am humbled by 16k hours. That’s incredible
My instructor got a lifetime achievement award for 50K accident free flying hours. Hmm. Did I mention that he was old?
I approve!
+Cody'sLab whens the next video coming out?!?!? and whens the next mine episode
I'm currently working on several videos mine included. I'm hoping to get the 250k video out this weekend.
ERR MAH GAWD HE REPLIED! moar bees pls!...
Cody's lab hi
you're the man cody
The guy has 16000 flight hours that means that he spend over 1,8 years flying a helicoper. Respect!
If he flew an average of 8 hours a day 5 days a week that is roughly 7 1/2 years experience
@@TheBeeMan1994 Flight hours only include time that you’re actually in the air, not time when you’re prepping the craft or doing other things. As a professional pilot I doubt he was in the air every second of the workday so I think he has many more years of experience as a pilot under his belt.
@@JohnDoe-zh6cp you didnt get his point. lol
@@newdiary6978 I did get his point I'm just trying to stress that he has even more experience than the simple math would suggest.
And for Robinson helicopters, the Hobbs Meter (which tracks flight time in tenths of an hour for those unfamiliar), only counts when the collective is lifted up. So that means that even his time getting the engine started and pre-flight don't count even when the engine is on like airplanes and jets. The guy has a TON of experience.
@smartereveryday Come with us hang gliding down in Houston Texas and learn how we fly our unpowered gliders for hours at a time. I'm a tandem instructor I'll take you up!
That sounds like a great video idea, but it isent getting a lot of attention. Try and sent him an email!
That sounds awesome! Hope to try it one day!
Id be happy to join you anytime :3
@ Sorry to hear that, when did that happen? I've never heard of 3 pilots having an accident on the same day and all passing away.
@ I understand the devastation after loosing a loved one. However, you can't say its morally wrong to risk your life for fun. There is risk in everything we do in life. Accidents happen.
0:48
"if a helicopter looses an engine it turns into a brick"
*drops pebble*
Lewis Jones Kobe’s helicopter flew into the ground in heavy fog, they didn’t lose power.
@@chrisw.4318 and?
@@chrisw.4318 So your point is?
Why bring it up?
loses*
LoL @ 1:32 "La la la la la la la" Funky music while flying over an airplane wreck. :D
1:35 Scene of brutal death to some jazzy hand claps and guitar
Hey, destin. I am big fan of the quality of content you provide. You make awesome, well researched videos.
agreed
+Luciano Narno The helicopter is a big fan too :)
+Hank Hill Omg that made my day!
+Luciano Narno Thank you so much.
+SmarterEveryDay hey Dustin. I was wondering how sun has a effect on tides. even though earth is orbiting the sun , right.. ISS doesn't feel the gravity of earth. but why earth should feel it on earth -sun system
0:30 He got out of the helicopter, set up a camera. Went all the way back into the helicopter, to film him getting out of the helicopter. LOL
an it was an awesome shot!
wellcome to youtube my man
Beautiful episode!!
'Strapped into a falling helicopter'
ArmA pilots: *_The Expert_*
Yeeeee
I prolly got smarter, but i felt extremely dumb during the process.
yes, he can and prolly is what he wanted to say
Thanks for sharing this information.
People who think helicopters glide are wrong.. They fall with style
Loliloliloli
+Andy Herrmann I guess they drift in the air and does ULTRA SUPER LATE BRAKING
+Andy Herrmann there is a saying among plane pilots that goes like this:
Helicopter's don't fly, they're simply so ugly, the earth repels them
+Andy Herrmann As explained by Douglas Adams, the trick is to throw yourself at the ground, and miss.
+GatoMolhado helicopter pilots also say this haha
Pretty dark to get this recommended after Kobe Bryant...
DNA
It's not the youtube. It's the people.
Kobe *dies*
Millions of people on yt search:
can a helicopter land despite engine failure
can a helicopter glide like a plane
does helicopter fall like a brick during engine failure
...
So after a while it gets recommended because it's trending again.
@@petemitchell9996 oh wow I didn't know that thanks
@@Shimmersclone Yeah many people don't. Many people look at the TH-cam Algorithm as some malicious thing that has it out for all TH-camrs.
Which raises the question.. was his helicopter pilot a noob?
I was a wheeled vehicle mechanic in a US Army Chinook company and I knew what an autorotation is and at least the basics of it. & It was nowhere near my MOS to know that.
Probably part of why every aviation warrant officer in the unit offered to sign the papers needed for me to go to WOCS for pilot.. even though those papers only need two warrant officer's signatures. But I didn't take them up on it. The dumb 💩 young idiots do 😣 just like in basic when my back was probably less than millimeters away from literally being broken I went with the super soldier approach instead of going to the medics.. driven in part by the early 2000s drill sergeant push against sick call rangers that would go to sick call for things as stupid as paper cuts, or things even stupider than that.
I'm not sure how many of you here have practiced STALLS in small aircraft or Autorotation drills in a helicopter - but concentrating when you're falling and your heart is in your mouth is the stuff of legend.
It's been a dream of mine to own a one seater gyrocopter one day. They're like a flying go kart.
Sounds pretty cool, why dont you modify a go kart so that it flies? And make a video of it of course
+Flynn Asher simply face palm
Patrick Mathew what, you're calling me stupid for a satirical comment? Face palm
Patrick Mathew I'm not triggered. Shut up
Flynn Asher That's what someone who's triggered would say.
"They said only helicopters could get here" - The plane
Deserves more likes 😂
True, but the trick isn't just to get somewhere but to be able to get somewhere else after. So the plane obviously didn't think it through. :-)
You can land a plane anywhere.
Just not in one piece
In my military career I was both an Army and an Air Force instructor pilot in the UH-1 Huey helicopter. Army pilots are trained to make autorotation landings that slide after touchdown (like Gerry did). The Air Force required touchdowns to have no slide because you are more likely to land on a soft surface - dirt, mud, water, treetops, etc - than you are a runway. This was done by just before landing pulling the nose up to reduce forward speed and to build rotor RPM, then transitioning to a hovering autorotation (just as if your engine failed in a hover). I always thought the Air Force way was a better idea.
I concur. I was taught to slide it on. But as civil pilot, I was later taught that the helicopter could do much better. So I practiced 0 airspeed landings. I flew both Hueys and Apache's in the Army and later received great training from Bell at their training academy.
Even Neil Degrasse Tyson becomes smarter every day...
haha!
haha!
+Phillip Tunstall He was a great sport. I thought his opening line in his initial email response was super classy:
"Destin,
Happy to be the foil for your helicopter video."
+Phillip Tunstall The only way to be right is to always be ready to admit you're wrong, because none of us are right at everything.
+SmarterEveryDay more like AIRfoil.
Dude! Kudos to you and bears at the helm. That was an awesome video.
Ha great stuff, I subscribe to both you guys :-)
+bigclivedotcom
Nice to see favorite TH-camrs.
Finally!! How long did the render take in the end?
+Ian Holmer Good grief, it took 2 days. The computer kept crashing etc. I take it you follow me on snapchat and saw the pain?
+Ian Holmer What?
+karlkarl93
1. This is obviously intended for Destin.
2. If you don't know what something means, and the comment isn't intended for you, why on Earth would you jump in with a "What?".
Tip: He means the video itself. Google can tell you the rest.
+karlkarl93 lol..... god ur stupid.
+Thomas Galea (UKZz HELLRAISER) No need to jump down his throat.
Loved this, so well explained. Was expecting this to be over my head, totally got it! Helecopters are awesome!
well i have 16000 hours in csgo, so... duh!?
+Walter Spurer suddenly i don't feel so bad about my 2700 hours in dota.
j/k, i still do.
So you're a master and a half at CS:GO?
+Walter Spurer It's been 1344 days since CSGO has been released. You've played over 666 days of CSGO. You've spent half of your entire time(minus 12 days) playing the game since its release. You're either joking(read: bullshitting), or you need help.
+10ccepi pro's have 5~6k hours :P
10ccepi idiots man...
Love this video! (Also love how your older son said "maybe" to whether others kids would like Kiwi Crate. Truth in advertising!)
+sutematsu He wasn't going to speak for other kids I guess!
+SmarterEveryDay Right? He seems like a cool guy. :)
+SmarterEveryDay my grandpa said if the engine locks up instantly the drive shaft for the propeller it will break it Frome the force and it will keep spinning and that fan thing stuff
+SmarterEveryDay P.S. Love the videos!
+SmarterEveryDay
I wonder if you still have the same respect for Obama now that he is ordering schools to accommodate transgender students. He says he is Christian but his policies seem contrary to Christian morals.
I had one of those cheap $50 drones, and I noticed this same concept when I would kill the motors. It fell so slowly it could easily survive a fall onto grass.
+TheBackyardScientist drone? as a quadcopter? they don't have adjustable rotor angles so autorotation is not possible with it
I love your videos!
+DJhartson they are not controllable in their version of auto-rotation - they turn into maple leaf seedlings, where the rotors are basically providing a parachute effect... without the pull on the cords at the end.
-Shawn
You should look into gyrocopters. They fly entirely on autorotation. People don't know that the main (top) rotor is not actually powered, its driven by incoming wind speed from forward momentum which is why they don't need a tail rotor to balance the rotational forces. Its all driven by the rear rotor that only pushes the aircraft forward.
Well said!
I like how Niel Tyson made a statement that turned out to be wrong and instead of trying to justify or deny it, he atmitted it and wanted to learn the truth. That's what sience is all about, finding out the truth and adjusting your previous findings to better truths.
was that a crashed plane?
pitt-lake.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/few-photos-of-1953-mitchell-b-25-crash.html
+becton98 B-17
No it's a b-25
+becton98 Yep. A B-25 pitt-lake.blogspot.ca/2011/12/few-photos-of-1953-mitchell-b-25-crash.html
Huh looks kinda small for a B-25, I initially thought it was a P-47
"Almost! And I broke mine!" So funny xD
“So I wanted to question this by putting my life on the line”.
What a mad man.. a noble one.
It's not really dangerous at all when done in a controlled environment with an expert pilot.
I'm a pilot in airplanes and helicopters and autorotation training is challenging and scary and my least favorite thing.
If you are afraid of it, you are unsafe... get more training.
@@hotrodray9884 I hate the falling part of rock climbing even though it’s perfectly safe if you are belayed correctly. Sometimes we are afraid of things even though we know they are (mostly) safe.
@@hotrodray9884 people tend to forget pilots are humans too
I love auto training man! see it as more of a flight configuration than an emergency now
Thanks for the warning. Because you have your ticket doesn't mean you're a good nor safe pilot. If you're afraid of anything you may want to look at something else like wine tester.
Next on SmarterEveryDay: *Will Donald Trump fall or glide once dropped out of a helicopter?*
+HoomanTV He will make gravity great again...
His hair will create lift and will therefore glide and he will survive to make America great again.
+HoomanTV He'll fall, but he'll survive. His ego will act as a parachute or a cushion.
I love little bobba fett on the controls
Or is it janjo fett duh duh duuuuh
Milo Burrell
lol it’s definitely Boba Fett though, check out the color scheme.
Milo Burrell no it’s boba, jango is blue
Boba Fett? Boba Fett where?!
Adam G 😂😂
"Lose an engine and it can glide" -nobody that ever flew in an Osprey
Turns into a beyblade or starfox depending on orientation of the engines.
Osprey can sorta fly (or emergency land) on one engine, the rotors are connected by a shaft inside the wing. Two engine failure is pretty unlikely.
People think a helicopter can't glide, but it do.
does*
+VASAVEDOOM "but it do" is a quote from Oscar Gamble but it is more of a meme now.
+Hannes Leek TIL the origin of "but it do"
***** Today I learned
+@ppleSIN Today You Learned TIL meaning
If the show is called "Smarter EVERY DAY", why does he only post once every 2 weeks?
+xxxbeerbottle711xxx I'm smatter every three weeks.
+Carl Geers I see you're waiting for the spelling episode.
It's about the mentality of looking for opportunities to get personally smarter everyday. It's his goal for himself and his videos share insight and entertainment into the process
+xxxbeerbottle711xxx *50 years
+Keyth King It was just a joke lol. I love Destin
NDgT takes it like such a champ! Admitting to yourself you were wrong and not feel defeated is what a scientific mindset is all about.
+kirkelicious Super classy.
Definitely an individual to admire.
+SmarterEveryDay As a college professor of mine said, "think that you may be wrong". I live my life that way every day and it makes a world of difference.
+kirkelicious No, checking your actually right before you make a fool of yourself by advertising your opinions, much more scientific. All it would've taken is one google search. Eg, "Do helicopters drop like bricks" -> no. Not really too much to ask where your opinion will then make it to millions of other people, many of whom won't know better, and will now be misinformed, even ardent about it, because they heard about it from a man, who should've known better. Life advice, stay off twitter
+kirkelicious When u are a smart person, you realize you are rarely "wrong". Instead of seeing it as something wrong, you should view it as "You have just learned something."
Interesting fact: There's an aircraft called an AutoGyro or gyroplane. They're basically airplanes that don't get their lift from fixed wings, but by rotary wings on autorotation alone as part of their normal operation. They have a large swamp boat-like propeller on the back that keeps the aircraft moving forward. The blades are not attached to the engine and provide lift by autorotation alone.
Seen them before, never realised the blades were unpowered! Thanks for the interesting fact :)
Easier to think of this, is to think on the helicopter shaped flowers, they land really slowly rotating. No?
+bluetorch13 Well, the whirlybird tree seeds.
+NickRoman search in spanish "Chaparro Morado" they are 5 blade seeds doing the same thing, it's awesome
+bluetorch13 I know you're talking about maple tree seeds but still all I could think of was AH-64 Apache helicopters growing in a field.
+bluetorch13 yeah you are right about that, but I think the proportions are a little to wild to scale up, the helicopter wing would be gigantic. :p
MegaMoth :D
8:28 - "Get to da choppa" 😂😂
THAT. GLORIOUS. BEARD.
I love getting smarter every day ! These videos are amazing and very easy to watch . Thank you !
The music was most enjoyable!
Like your name 😁
@@jesusischrist1527 dont Like your name
@@BobAndrews69 well I'm sorry aybe oneday you will given the reason for you not liking my name because you don't like Jesus but I'm sorry to hear that I hope you will oneday given that be the reason
I don't like your face.
I used this when I had to land damaged helicopters in arma 3
can you rotate the blades in arma? i never knew lol
That's the only thing you control, you don't controll engine speed in arma (Not Directly) You control the blades angle of attack to the wind.
I somehow dont believe its a same thing
Jakob Werbe Same
Hold 'X' to not die.
STRAPPED INTO A FALLING HELICOPTER
SMARTER EAVERY DAY? hmmm ???
But he explained how you can survive if a helicopter engine fails.
"respected scientist Neil deGrass Tyson"
lol
Learn something new everyday. I always thought a helicopter would fall like a brick thank you for this video
Autorotation is intuitively obvious from the time one is an toddler. I can't remember a time when this wasn't obvious.
"How many hours do you have?"
"A little over 16,000."
"That's all? Well maybe you'll learn how to do this someday."
😂
16,000?!? well ill catch up in about 15,948 hrs :(
:'D
Well I'm reaching 160,000 hours I'm an engine
+Bob Swagger That's the spirit.
+Bob Swagger congratulations, you're a 0.0052 of a master :)
that is 666.666... days. Two months shy of 2 years in a chopper.
I was about to say “before I watch this you just have to auto rotate the heli” but destin over here took the words out of my mouth
Clickbait....but not clickbait- My mind can't process such paradox.
Engineer, Teacher, Content Creator, Awesome, Father. We love you Destin you are an amazing person :)
Nothing wrong with being a Christian, it's just someone's beliefs
was this in response to me? I didn't say anything about being a Christian, while I am not religious in Destin's case I don't really mind, he doesn't shove it down our throats and he has a nice balance of science and religion he also seems open minded and friendly. I respect his choice to be religious and im sure he respects my choice for not being religious as long as i am not hurting anyone or hating on religious people :)
LoL! Plane wreckage parts at 1:39 aren't too encouraging. Reminds me the time I went to the grass field to fly and on the way there a cop and ambulance passed me on the road the airport is on. I pulled in, both were parked there when a guy walks around the hanger covered in blood. He only had a cut on his arm but it was quite unsettling.
That's the wreckage of an old Mitchell B-25 that crashed in the 1950's while on a training exercise. Official cause of the crash was icing but from the condition one of the propellers is in it seems like an engine failed before impact.
They leave it as a memorial looks like a ww2 era aircraft can’t narrow it down though
That scenery looks incredible!!
Awesome vid. I didn't know choppers could do this, some amazing engineering went into that for sure. And I will grab some kiwi crates on my way out.
Btw, big fan of NDT as well, didn't expect him to be on the video.
+BATMAN Thanks for supporting the sponsor. It really helps.
Neil's voice is magical
Ordered the koala crate for my kiddo! What a great idea and a great way to support an amazingly unique channel.
+dh93085 Thank you SO much! It directly helps Smarter Every Day!
SmarterEveryDay is such an awesome channel this is very educational in so many ways and I-... It's just awesome.
And that's the exact reaction you should have when someone proves you wrong.
Omg that jump at the end was hilarious!
+Adrian T i was expecting someone to just run headfirst into it.
Tyson has never heard of autorotation???
To be fair, he studies physics, I'd expect that response if it was elon musk. He's not in the same field as someone like elon who's focusing on take off physics etc. Wish I could word this better but the proper term for what elon studied isn't coming to mind
Would you also be surprised that Einstein couldn't fly an airplane.
@@19jthomas86 ye ikr all these ppl thinking bcs he has physics in his name (although he is an astrophysicist) that he should know about helicopters. plus that wasn't even his point he meant that the propellers weren't spinning.
LOL, he's not an expert in everything!
Neil deGrasse Tyson is massively overrated
8:37 Bradley's pupper has more flight time than most men alive haha
I became smarter today.
Lets not lie now.
U N then don't
+talas attila The clap back is real.
Sorry :). You're only born smart. Schooling only gives one knowledge. That's why I spent my childhood skipping school. :)
Its true, science shows IQ is genetic, but certain political parties hate this inconvenient truth and will go to great lengths to hide this fact and keep it from the public and they can then insert their own version of reality.
I just found out about Tinker Crate last week and was looking at trying them out. Thanks for the opportunity to try one for free!
+Eerie Acres Cemetery Thanks! This will help Smarter Every Day!
+SmarterEveryDay how old are you?
you look like 29 years old.
Proud of you Destin. Usually the secular scientists look down on Christians, but they really have nothing on you.
agreed
+Stefan C What do you mean ''they really have nothing on you''? Why would a scientist oppose Destin to begin with? I'm sorry, I don't see your point.
+Jonksy He's complimenting Destin on being a better scientist than secular scientists typically give christian scientists credit for. seems pretty clear...
+TheMFTⓋ re: noah's arc - ...explain the physics of a boat?
CantripGhost Well, I don't really want to get into this, but the boat is the least of the problems. CantripGhost The fact that secular scientists look down on Christians does not mean that secular scientists discredit Christian scientists. So, no, I do not feel that his comment is clear.
Awesome video. Thanks for the clear explanation
Get to the Choopppaaa!
i use this trick in arma to land safely when my engine gets shot out 😇
WolfWhisky same lol
Most genius thing i have heard
1. I thought every helicopter pilot is forced to learn autorotation before they can be certified. This video makes it seem like only masters know the trick.
2. I thought that they don't have to switch from powered to free-rotating - the rotor automatically freewheels when the rotor is spinning faster than the engine. Not only is this safer (there's no switch to break), but it has the extra benefit of allowing one to quickly bring the engine speed up if they are training and landing too fast.
1. Just because every pilot is required to be able to perform an autorotation doesn't mean it's a great idea to perform an autorotation landing on purpose _with a passenger_. It makes every bit of sense to have a flight instructor do it since performing such demonstrations is part of their job.
2. He just phrased it poorly. What they did was cut power to idle and use the collective to make the air drive the rotor, causing the freewheel clutch to disengage the rotor from the engine.
of course heli pilots do these maneuvers during their check rides. Got to learn how to do the safety first and foremost. The video is going for sensationalism......Basic stuff is for all pilots, not just the experienced guys.......
Autorotation is easier than taking off. No seriously.
0:52 I like his entusiasm when he says that he might die
Is schooling Neil the hardest achievement on steam ?
+The Gambler They haven't even created the badge for it yet ;-)
Dude!!!! the extra clips at the end are priceless!!!! You guys rock!
Who else geeked out at boba fett
me.....
I love rewatching this one every time it's in my recommendations! Thanks again Destin ♥️
Awesome video Destin. I'm going to go get my kiwi crate momentarily. I would however like to know more about that plane crash you guys flew over. It looks like it hit the ground like a brick.
+mute8s It was a crash of a Canadian Air Force B-25 high in the mountains from back in 1953. Unfortunately 3 men lost their lives.
I would love it if you got a kiwi crate. I like their product so much I reached out to them and asked them if I could advertise for them.
SmarterEveryDay Wow those parts seemed to be in remarkable condition for having crashed in 1953. I'll dig around the net and see if i can find more info. Thanks for the reply and keep the great videos coming!
+SmarterEveryDay I thought it was the infamous B-36 Broken Arrow wreck. Thank you for the information!
+mute8s Also, thanks for being willing to checkout kiwicrates. Here's the link: www.kiwicrate.com/smarter
+mute8s aluminum doesn't rust. :)
I swear that's the guy who helped out casey Neistat with the helicopter and jet ski.
Looks like it
You don't have to swear, it is him :)
and the guy Syndicate was with for a while, even before casey
it is
0:40 i thought i got a notification on my phone😂
Same here 😂
You mentioned that the helicopter blades act like a big fan blowing down the air. It has long been my impression that the blades generate lift by the Bernoulli effect with the top of the blade pulling up much more than the bottom of the blade pushes down.
??
Somewhat like a gyrocopter only without a thrusting engine.
+WarriorX precisely
+WarriorX almost, it's why gyro's blades are angled back, but the airflow from the engine also contributes to them turning and they are at a fixed pitch so no cyclic to "flair" the blade angle for a vertical landing.
Early helicopters where/are often mistaken for gyro's as the power came from a front mounted radial engine that retained a small prop to blow air over the air-cooled motor.
+WarriorX An autogyro is in constant auto-rotation
Somewhat like a gyrocopter and exactly like a gyroglider, like the ones they used to tow behind submarines. Those can also release the tow rope and glide down. Not over water of course.
this is the dude, that casey and oscar are with right now!
Yeah...i thought i recognized him. I had to go back to this video and check
+Andreas Wendelboe woah me too
He has his own youtube channel and his content is amazing 4k quality aswell check it out Bradley Friesen
AustrianPyro haha, freut mich immer voll wenn ich erkannt werde :)
Only the ones who watch your snapchat story know the struggle to render this video!
Thanks for you hard work, Destin.
+ruberband29 The struggle was so incredibly hard.
SmarterEveryDay You're our modern day hero, Destin!
How awesome is it to have such a huge name respond to you?.. Thanks for showing the world that helicopters can be landed safely with autorotation.