I held on to that “we’ll have you on the road to that max pay if you stick with us for a decade in a shitty position” for about a year, after that realized that’s little sense in settling for that when every time I’ve transferred companies it’s come with a Huge pay raise, definitely wouldn’t be making the three hundred thousand a year if I was still hoping the first company I started working for would do it all for me lol I don’t even work anymore, I can raise my kids without having to worry about it. Take your opportunities where you can get them, y’all. It’s always so much better.
I worked for UPS from 98’ to 04’ in the warehouse (San Bruno Hub). I wanted to become a driver and I was told I had to wait a couple more years which I thought was rediculous. I ended up leaving UPS, getting my CDL and went to work for Recology (Garbage Dept) 👍🏽 Both are TEAMSTERS so I didn’t lose anything with that.
As of now top rate is $50 hour and that's without future cost of living increases if we get any, then after 5 years we will have another contract and another pay increase
Yea $44 is just what they bumped our current pay up to, but pay raises over the next 4yrs will top out at $49 I think, and with cost of living raises we get it will be over $50/hr by end of progession.
No no he said 6 years to become a driver then started his 4 year progression to 44$, that’s dedication. In my business apprentices start out at 40$ an hour
That is not way too long. No matter what company you work for you have to work your way up and earn your spot. Even if you make your own company you will spend years before you make profit
He make likes 42 dollars an hour. There are people that don’t make much today with a college degree. 10 years for 42 dollar with no college degree. He also get full benefits.
Heres the thing, I know people who are working at ups going on 30 years. Some areas you have to wait for someone whos been there 30 years to retire. Position are available but limited because ups pays so well, no one wants to leave.
4 years ain't shit. My apprenticeship was 5 years and I had to work as a helper for 3 years before I could even apply for the apprenticeship. It was worth it. I now work 3 days a week and make over $100k/year. I could make a lot more if I wanted to work more, but I'd rather have my time, freedom and family over more money. My wife works part time and makes $40k/year. In our area the average income is like $37k/year. We are good.
Honestly my kids have moved out, i can get by on so much less money a year it's crazy. I have a van that i do an the work on myself, getting ready for my first motorcycle and all i do is donate plasma
I'm sure it's changed since I was at the hub in Minnesota in 2012, but dayum... 6 years in the warehouse? I still remember what our hourly rate was as an unloader, and the lack of hours that came with it as a new hire (even during the busy season) and let's just say it's a GOOD THING that I didn't have any kids, or commitments of any kind (other than a car payment). We were paid $9.23/hr, and during peak season, we got ~3 hours per night. The only way we were offered more was if someone else's trailer had a ton of irregulars (packages that were too large, awkward, or heavy to be handled by one person by themselves) and that was usually only offered to a few people per night.
And then when covid hit they were offering FT driver positions to anyone in my hub. Wait list fell from 8 years to 8 days. So many old heads got screwed on that one. My buddy was working eith me for 2 months as an unloader before he got a driver position. He's over halfway to fill rate now.
All careers should be like this upward way within the organization. Encourages ppl to stay of course and if a new hire had expedience/education in logistics than probably minimize time required so instead of 10 years it would take 5.
I worked in the ups warehouse for almost a year. One of the worst jobs iv ever had. Supervisors didnt know shit, workers were miserable. Hours sucked. Extremely hot in the summer Extremely cold in thr winter. Cudos to you for lasting 6 years in that hell hole
I got lucky started when I was 19 in the warehouse took me 3 years in the warehouse and then moved up got hired so fast cause of Covid they hired so many drivers across California. I’m now 25 been driving for 3 years
And it’s not an easy job either. You’ve got to get those packages delivered and fast. That’s why they earn a top rate you’ve got to work for it. I know , I was a supervisor there.
This is UPS. I worked 18 months 2 jobs and school one of those jobs were UPS. I gave notice to leave. They asked me to stay on through Christmas. February of 1999 I left on good standing working an extra 6 months. Last year I tried to get a job as a loader and was told no because I previously left. I needed a job still do. I can do their job and they said no. That’s UPS.
As a person who works in a ups hub, some of these guys wait 20+ years waiting for either feeders or package driver bids. It’s all about seniority there
People think that UPS drivers just get it easy it takes years to get rout from my understanding you don't get a job doing it unless somebody dies or retires
Ups drivers are something else .... Me and my mom were stranded and this ups semi driver bought us dinner filled out gas tank and gave us 120.00 bucks .
Thats crazy, went to ups for a warehouse position (in pa) n while doing the paperwork with other soon to be employees a guy walked in n asked of anyone wanted to be a driver, no experience necessary n were willing to take you on the spot n put you in the training to be a full time driver, so 6 years in a warehouse waiting for the opportunity to drive is ridiculous..Plus there is a reason ups is ALWAYS looking for warehouse associates
It sucks, man unless you’re not making it anywhere else it sucks in that factor…. Hot, building box walls in semi s over and over.. TRY TO GET SMALL SORT IF YOU DO WANT TO APPLY
Get your CDL and make that outta school. Fk years at a warehouse and possibly breaking your back or legs. Hook up doubles and make that on a light week
Why does nobody talk about the nonsense of the hiring process where you have to work X amount of days inside of X amount of days to make it in to the union which those days don’t count from October 15 to January 15. so basically you can be hired in September and if you don’t work a consistent 40 days before October 15, they can use an abuse you the entire holiday season and then let you go after the season is done and never hire you on as a union higher
And at least where I was a supervisor on cape cod our bosses tried to make it so drivers didn’t last 5 years. People got fired or let go so they didn’t have to pay as many top pay
It's not about the time as much as it would be working for a company that doesn't even want you to waste time closing the vehicle door because they're so uptight about production.
Yep. That’s why all these guys are bitter. They just hire drivers in and at a stupid high starting pay. And if you anything but white you can do whatever you want because of ups being so woke
what did you do i the warehouse because in college i loaded trucks using a wrist computer finger scanner and it SUCKED. i always envied the guys up top and management
My brother is a ups driver he only did 1 year of warehouse then he was a driver...so idk if everyone's different...or if its just cause my step mom knew people who worked there.
Every one has different situations half my box line got hired off the street in 2019-2021 then there guys who worked less then a year in the hub and a spot opened up and no one else could fill it it was all right place right time then there’s guys it took years cause no one wanted to retire
Crazy that they now allow the beard and bracelets. Many drivers now have tattoos they once had to cover or get fired. Fired in union is more like temporary lay off
Yeah ups is coo if your a driver but even then it’s a lot of work but it’s decent money for the most part your making good hourly close to what you would be making in the trades so imo mine as well go the trade route less time to get up to that type of pay and even exceed the cap and you’ll know how to do something besides drive a big box van
Great so they put a tear in the contract. So everybody who is hire after a certain date will get one wage rate and anyone who was hired before gets a better deal what great way to divide and bid the drivers against one another.
It’s not a long time but it is a long time do make driver. I could never do it, too old to be making no money for 6 years. My family would pay the price.
6 years?? I been at UPS 14 years now and still can’t go full time. I’m only a 6 hour employee. It took me 7 years to get a 6 hour job from a 3 hour one.
That’s why I quit ups I started in 07 at 18 left when I was 21 in 09 I went out and got my own CDL at a school they did not care you need to work your way up I started at 9$ an hr asan unloaded trailers in the morning it suck so bad I left I start making over 1500 as truck driver and more at times ups takes way to much patience and you better have a good full time job while you wait to be a truck driver you need to start as a delivery driver there not even real trucks
My son’s uncle Rob is a bum. He drove for UPS hurt his back and blamed it on the company sued for a bunch of money, and said his back was hurt overtime, got a bunch of cash, and now he sits in front of a computer and lives his wife.
I got hired on for peak season on the air ramp in Ontario and they decided to keep me full time, was truly the best job I've ever had.
I held on to that “we’ll have you on the road to that max pay if you stick with us for a decade in a shitty position” for about a year, after that realized that’s little sense in settling for that when every time I’ve transferred companies it’s come with a Huge pay raise, definitely wouldn’t be making the three hundred thousand a year if I was still hoping the first company I started working for would do it all for me lol I don’t even work anymore, I can raise my kids without having to worry about it. Take your opportunities where you can get them, y’all. It’s always so much better.
I love how he always shows them that he's on his un paid lunch break while filming lol
Only p*ssies take lunch breaks!
It's a good way to CYA if UPS watch the videos.
Ups don’t play about the “stealing time “bullish it
I'm actually surprised no one has got on him about filming inside the box truck.
That one week training course must be where they learn to throw packages
😭😭💀
that’s fedex lol 😂
My buddy said they took him to the most densely populated city in our state and put him and others in hell situations haha
I worked for UPS from 98’ to 04’ in the warehouse (San Bruno Hub). I wanted to become a driver and I was told I had to wait a couple more years which I thought was rediculous. I ended up leaving UPS, getting my CDL and went to work for Recology (Garbage Dept) 👍🏽 Both are TEAMSTERS so I didn’t lose anything with that.
Good for you bud
Damn 6 years for top rate of $44 is wild, just become a plumber or electrician
As of now top rate is $50 hour and that's without future cost of living increases if we get any, then after 5 years we will have another contract and another pay increase
Yea $44 is just what they bumped our current pay up to, but pay raises over the next 4yrs will top out at $49 I think, and with cost of living raises we get it will be over $50/hr by end of progession.
No no he said 6 years to become a driver then started his 4 year progression to 44$, that’s dedication. In my business apprentices start out at 40$ an hour
@linehandibew6205 what business do you work where apprentices start at $40 an hour?
@@spencerbosco933 outside electrical line construction. High voltage lineman
So basically, waaaay too long.
That is not way too long. No matter what company you work for you have to work your way up and earn your spot.
Even if you make your own company you will spend years before you make profit
He make likes 42 dollars an hour. There are people that don’t make much today with a college degree. 10 years for 42 dollar with no college degree. He also get full benefits.
Been in a different field for 10 years as well. Started at $13.60, currently $52 and some change.
@@dnasty981yeah but he works labor not an office job
@@tyfrey_ An old man once told me you can either use your back or your brain. After working at many labor halls, I went to college.
My son didn’t go through that. He quit the post office and UPS put him straight to a truck.
That’s because that particular building needed drivers. Now a days it’s different.
Worked there in 06 it was taking people a decade just to be offered a driving position
Pure luck right place right time
God was on his side cause that's literally unheard of.
Heres the thing, I know people who are working at ups going on 30 years. Some areas you have to wait for someone whos been there 30 years to retire. Position are available but limited because ups pays so well, no one wants to leave.
I did the summer load and unload. Unbelievable hard work.
U earn and earned every dollar...respect
I came off the street in NYC. 4 year progression was ass and a half. Thankfully I hit 6 full time years not too long ago. 23.6 years to go.
4 years ain't shit. My apprenticeship was 5 years and I had to work as a helper for 3 years before I could even apply for the apprenticeship. It was worth it. I now work 3 days a week and make over $100k/year. I could make a lot more if I wanted to work more, but I'd rather have my time, freedom and family over more money. My wife works part time and makes $40k/year. In our area the average income is like $37k/year. We are good.
What do you do?
What do you do?
@@kyled.4889UPS Driver
Lying like fuck
Sells his b@@ty 😅
I would like to shake ur hand!!! Not many beast like u who can see the better future!!!! Sending love!!!
Honestly my kids have moved out, i can get by on so much less money a year it's crazy. I have a van that i do an the work on myself, getting ready for my first motorcycle and all i do is donate plasma
I worked for Amazon as delivery driver after the 3 days of training and first day of delivering I quit the next day.
I'm sure it's changed since I was at the hub in Minnesota in 2012, but dayum... 6 years in the warehouse? I still remember what our hourly rate was as an unloader, and the lack of hours that came with it as a new hire (even during the busy season) and let's just say it's a GOOD THING that I didn't have any kids, or commitments of any kind (other than a car payment). We were paid $9.23/hr, and during peak season, we got ~3 hours per night. The only way we were offered more was if someone else's trailer had a ton of irregulars (packages that were too large, awkward, or heavy to be handled by one person by themselves) and that was usually only offered to a few people per night.
And then when covid hit they were offering FT driver positions to anyone in my hub. Wait list fell from 8 years to 8 days. So many old heads got screwed on that one. My buddy was working eith me for 2 months as an unloader before he got a driver position. He's over halfway to fill rate now.
All careers should be like this upward way within the organization.
Encourages ppl to stay of course and if a new hire had expedience/education in logistics than probably minimize time required so instead of 10 years it would take 5.
I worked in the ups warehouse for almost a year. One of the worst jobs iv ever had. Supervisors didnt know shit, workers were miserable. Hours sucked. Extremely hot in the summer Extremely cold in thr winter. Cudos to you for lasting 6 years in that hell hole
Ain’t no way. You better be making real close to six figures by now for all that
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@@benchoflemons398 170? You working 70hr weeks for 52 weeks? Haha. Or did you read that online.
He literally shows his paystub after taxes he makes 1300/week. So take home is not even 70k/year
@@karandeep.1234 70k after tax is pretty damn good.
@karandeepsomal4808 that means his pre-tax is probably over 100k a year
I got lucky started when I was 19 in the warehouse took me 3 years in the warehouse and then moved up got hired so fast cause of Covid they hired so many drivers across California. I’m now 25 been driving for 3 years
And it’s not an easy job either. You’ve got to get those packages delivered and fast. That’s why they earn a top rate you’ve got to work for it. I know , I was a supervisor there.
My best friend just retired as a driver. She worked for them for 38 years! I remember her first day and how nervous she was!
Hopefully I get in that soon I’m coming up on year 4 rn and I started day after I graduated
I got hired in 2007 became a driver in 2017. It was hard but totally worth it.
That’s actually so sad Jesus christ
Good for you man, it just doesn't look like a enjoyable job. More power to you
Look up Boeing IAM 751 union.
It also takes 6 years to reach max pay at Boeing which is $33-52 depending on the job.
So, by the time I hit top rate, one of you guys will be delivering my casket that I bought from Costco to the funeral home.
He's package delivery, he's not a truck driver. 2 different things, 2 different scales. Having a class a CDL lot better.
It took HIM 6 years. Most people can be a driver within 1-4 years working warehouse
This is UPS. I worked 18 months 2 jobs and school one of those jobs were UPS. I gave notice to leave. They asked me to stay on through Christmas. February of 1999 I left on good standing working an extra 6 months. Last year I tried to get a job as a loader and was told no because I previously left. I needed a job still do. I can do their job and they said no. That’s UPS.
I messed up… years ago I went in to be a driver but they offered me a salary position in management… I took the management job 😶. Lasted one year
i started on the truck…😂
Took me four months. Got hired as TCD pretty much drove the entire time. Didn6 years now I’m going to school.
Everyone wants to start at the top pay. Anywhere you go you will start at the bottom if you have no experience.
As a person who works in a ups hub, some of these guys wait 20+ years waiting for either feeders or package driver bids. It’s all about seniority there
Worked in cvs hell warehouse for 21 years.
Today's youth will want to hire in as the CEO
Dude could easily pass for Heavy Ds brother.
People think that UPS drivers just get it easy it takes years to get rout from my understanding you don't get a job doing it unless somebody dies or retires
6 years? Holy shit. I’ve seen people say 18 months, 24 months, never knew it could take a whole 6 years
Ups drivers are something else .... Me and my mom were stranded and this ups semi driver bought us dinner filled out gas tank and gave us 120.00 bucks .
It takes 4 years as a fill time employee to get top rate. Problem is, it could take 10 years to get a full time position.
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸
I consider it the same as someone going to 4 years of college then starting at the bottom. Same thing.
Thats crazy, went to ups for a warehouse position (in pa) n while doing the paperwork with other soon to be employees a guy walked in n asked of anyone wanted to be a driver, no experience necessary n were willing to take you on the spot n put you in the training to be a full time driver, so 6 years in a warehouse waiting for the opportunity to drive is ridiculous..Plus there is a reason ups is ALWAYS looking for warehouse associates
Right place right time bro so
Trimester no one insides wants it or can’t cause of no drivers license so they source outside luck
Talk about how UPS has a workers union and how seniority works for positions
Yup, that’s the nature of unions
It sucks, man unless you’re not making it anywhere else it sucks in that factor…. Hot, building box walls in semi s over and over..
TRY TO GET SMALL SORT IF YOU DO WANT TO APPLY
Every UPS hub and or center is different when it comes to seniority and job availability.
Aim high in steering !
It really depends on what hub at what time. Sometimes you luck out and sometimes you play the long game.
Get your CDL and make that outta school. Fk years at a warehouse and possibly breaking your back or legs. Hook up doubles and make that on a light week
Why does nobody talk about the nonsense of the hiring process where you have to work X amount of days inside of X amount of days to make it in to the union which those days don’t count from October 15 to January 15. so basically you can be hired in September and if you don’t work a consistent 40 days before October 15, they can use an abuse you the entire holiday season and then let you go after the season is done and never hire you on as a union higher
And at least where I was a supervisor on cape cod our bosses tried to make it so drivers didn’t last 5 years. People got fired or let go so they didn’t have to pay as many top pay
I started a year ago as full time feeder driver from day one
It's not about the time as much as it would be working for a company that doesn't even want you to waste time closing the vehicle door because they're so uptight about production.
I turned 23 years old that day 🎉
Your truck looks so clean inside mine looks like who done it
Would they hire an experienced FedEx Driver as a driver right away ?
6 years!
I don't know if this is every area. But I'm the area I live ups is hiring drivers right away no Warehouse
Yep. That’s why all these guys are bitter. They just hire drivers in and at a stupid high starting pay. And if you anything but white you can do whatever you want because of ups being so woke
what did you do i the warehouse because in college i loaded trucks using a wrist computer finger scanner and it SUCKED. i always envied the guys up top and management
My brother is a ups driver he only did 1 year of warehouse then he was a driver...so idk if everyone's different...or if its just cause my step mom knew people who worked there.
Every one has different situations half my box line got hired off the street in 2019-2021 then there guys who worked less then a year in the hub and a spot opened up and no one else could fill it it was all right place right time then there’s guys it took years cause no one wanted to retire
Sign me up for the ONE WEEK of driving school.
Crazy that they now allow the beard and bracelets. Many drivers now have tattoos they once had to cover or get fired. Fired in union is more like temporary lay off
If you hold under age drinking parties at your house in Conklin NY your in !!!!!
What sucks is that they start you off as part time to
That new progression will never allow the new drivers to make as much as the drivers in the last contract. Total crap
I got 3 months on you kid!!! I’m from 08 myself
When exactly, during all that time, do they teach you to leave packages at the wrong apartment complex?
Are the majority of drivers from within the company
Yeah ups is coo if your a driver but even then it’s a lot of work but it’s decent money for the most part your making good hourly close to what you would be making in the trades so imo mine as well go the trade route less time to get up to that type of pay and even exceed the cap and you’ll know how to do something besides drive a big box van
Those are military timelines. Wow.
Great so they put a tear in the contract. So everybody who is hire after a certain date will get one wage rate and anyone who was hired before gets a better deal what great way to divide and bid the drivers against one another.
Nahh I rather go to school rather than wait that long. My friend is a travel nurse with his BSN and makes $2.7k+ a week.
How can I get my foot in that warehouse? There’s never any openings
6 years in the warehouse ?? Damn way to long . Very few people last that long
Explain the difference betwen feeder and packege car
If you look like that at 33 working for UPS , im good😅😅
But respectfully that Is how life is 😅😂 it not just about onlyfans and being TH-camr
I've seen people apply for ups and FedEx jist for a driver position and not have to go through all of that just to become a decent paid driver
10 years in any industry you can make $500k a year become the best at whatever you are doing and forget about the college and loans
I worked 9 years inside the huh before i got the call to go driving.
United Pot Smokers unite
3 year's in my center
It’s not a long time but it is a long time do make driver.
I could never do it, too old to be making no money for 6 years. My family would pay the price.
These kids want the golden ticket 😂in 6 months😂
Seen it happen half my box line got hired off the street between 2019-2021
I worked in the warehouse for 45 days. That ish is crap in there
Good ole boy system....
wow.. the unions are screwing you. my dudes are electricians and making 85 an hour and as a owner operator I am bringing in 36k a month
You can’t compare to completely different skill sets.
6 years?? I been at UPS 14 years now and still can’t go full time. I’m only a 6 hour employee. It took me 7 years to get a 6 hour job from a 3 hour one.
Says something about you.
@@D.c5- it all depends on seniority and jobs that become available to bid on at your location. Still make decent $$ in the warehouse..
Driving school is just drifting corner at 40mph 😂😂😂
That’s why I quit ups I started in 07 at 18 left when I was 21 in 09 I went out and got my own CDL at a school they did not care you need to work your way up I started at 9$ an hr asan unloaded trailers in the morning it suck so bad I left I start making over 1500 as truck driver and more at times ups takes way to much patience and you better have a good full time job while you wait to be a truck driver you need to start as a delivery driver there not even real trucks
That's ridiculous... Go get a class A and haul fuel. You'll make $110-140K a year. I've been doing it for 17 years.
Home daily?
Yes I work M-F 3am til I'm done, usually around 2-3pm@@joseg2994
I worked in the warehouse for 1 months before becoming a driver
Smart...showing you are on break so corporate doesn't think you are making videos on company time.
My son’s uncle Rob is a bum. He drove for UPS hurt his back and blamed it on the company sued for a bunch of money, and said his back was hurt overtime, got a bunch of cash, and now he sits in front of a computer and lives his wife.
Lives his wife?
😂😂😂😂
Stop it get some help 😢 in the most respectful way to say it
Not worth the wait. Go to school get a trade you will have way better hours and pay in the long run and quality of life.
Weird I can just apply on indeed.