The Pull Priority: Should you go for Lingsha or Topaz? | Honkai Star Rail 2.5

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  • @insertnamehere2022
    @insertnamehere2022 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +39

    Neither save for Sunday 🛐

    • @kebabenjoyer1
      @kebabenjoyer1 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      0:15

    • @ZeppeliGaming
      @ZeppeliGaming 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@kebabenjoyer1 its a meta comment too lol sunday is apparently gonna be broken.

    • @apotatowithnorights
      @apotatowithnorights 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ZeppeliGaming we know nothing abt his kit... he could be a broken harmony support yeah, but no one knows lol

    • @ZeppeliGaming
      @ZeppeliGaming 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@apotatowithnorights "we know nothing" its been out for a while that he will be a harmony support for the new summons meta lol

    • @verse2702
      @verse2702 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ZeppeliGamingThat was from an unreliable source. Take that with a grain of salt.

  • @AhmedMohammed-pf3jk
    @AhmedMohammed-pf3jk 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I absolutely LOVE Follow-up attackers , When I got Jade and Feixiao those 2 became my highest priority , I’ll probably go Topaz since even prior to robin , I wanted Topaz

  • @SadJab-qy7er
    @SadJab-qy7er 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    None lmao , gallagher and moze/march7 doing the job perfectly

    • @AhmedMohammed-pf3jk
      @AhmedMohammed-pf3jk 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Im personally pulling cuz Topaz is too good for FUA as her normal attacks are fu too allowing for more feixiao ult

    • @SadJab-qy7er
      @SadJab-qy7er 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

      @@AhmedMohammed-pf3jk i have e6 moze and never found any problems with her ult , but you do you i guess

    • @mcbx3d
      @mcbx3d 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I played in my friend account that have Robin E0S0, Aventurine E0S0, Topaz E0S1 and Moze E6, I used both Topaz and Moze with Topaz S1 in the team with Ratio E0S1 and Feixiao E0S1. For Ratio Moze it's better. For Feixiao Topaz it's a bit better, but not sufficient to be a difference between do something like a 0 Cycle or not. I would recommend get Robin and Aventurine first if you don't have then.
      Topaz advantage in Feixiao's team it's that she do a bit more hits, can change the target and she' SP positive vs Moze that it's Neutral. But this isn't that much advantage, their dmg it's basically the same, this team don't have SP problems unless you drag the fight too much and the extra hits are not sufficient to get another ult, maybe against a lot of enemies that do AOE dmg at the same time + good Avent RNG, but it's a rlly niche situation.

  • @GabeIG
    @GabeIG 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    If you like topaz sure but if you have moze e2+ or march e6 she's not that crazy unless you got for e1

  • @tomoe-donofanofalot2741
    @tomoe-donofanofalot2741 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm only just gonna get moze's light cone (even if it's shit on moze.). I don't really wanna pull for characters that I'm not interested in. Thanks for the advice. Love your videos 👍

  • @ventrue7
    @ventrue7 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So basically next banner getting lightcones actually potentially better for your account than getting the characters lol . Moze M7 or Fei can use Topaz's sig so that is actually really nice since a lot of people will actually miss Fei's sig because this was a really costly patch for players if they wanna pull stuff.

    • @shadow_beast1732
      @shadow_beast1732 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Me who got feixiao and robin below 60 pulls and fei lc under 20 pulls all 50/50😂😂😂

  • @Hikaru540
    @Hikaru540 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    What everyone is ignoring about Lingsha is that she isn't just a sustainer, but also a second DPS. Gallagher doesn't stand a chance against her damage potential, and with Firefly's Fire Implant, she's practically unstoppable. Saying she isn't worth it because Gallagher heals and occasionally does some super breaks isn't a strong argument. The only valid point is if you know who's coming in a few months (Tingyun and Sunday). In that case, I totally agree with skipping her and sticking with my boy Gallagher because we need to save those warps for them-they will definitely be more useful than Lingsha 🫠

    • @Hannvibal
      @Hannvibal 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      She’s not worth pulling when you have e2 gallagher , even if the next patch hqve the most worst character she’s simply not worth it at all unless you planning to get her e1 which is 360 pulls waste

    • @Hikaru540
      @Hikaru540 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Hannvibal 👍

  • @colodesu8546
    @colodesu8546 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    numby, need i say more?

  • @brokenenglish2937
    @brokenenglish2937 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Lingsha Lingsha Lingsha, i don't want my useless e0 galla anymore.

  • @Littlee4
    @Littlee4 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    So... in a ratio team, if i already have robin at s1, and im using silver wolf in place of topaz, do you thibk i should get robins e1, or topaz e0s0?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated thwnkyou!!!

    • @Iwasbag
      @Iwasbag  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Silver wolf is already fine enough to clear, the recommended team in the vid of using tingyun would be great too, if you can manage the debuffs with gallagher. Topaz is a good option, but i wouldn’t feel obligated to pull.

    • @Littlee4
      @Littlee4 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Iwasbag thankyou!!!! :)

  • @ronnyyen
    @ronnyyen ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Good vid

  • @qpb198
    @qpb198 29 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    yeah I'm still pulling for topaz

  • @AyameAkito
    @AyameAkito 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Making a pull priority video under the assumption every single player has certain units defeats the purpose entirely, Lingsha is highly recommended for anyone that wasn't playing when they give Gallagher and for anyone that has an E0 Gallagher as she performs equally to an E6 Gallagher at E0 with a basic 4 star Light Cone most people run with Gallagher.

    • @Iwasbag
      @Iwasbag  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think for gallagher specifically it makes sense since he was in an event reward where the other 4 stars were significantly worse to him, but even then i wouldn’t ever recommend to pull a five star because you don’t have a four star, five stars should be more than a marginal upgrade for them to be truly reccomendable

  • @_dinked
    @_dinked 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    thanks for the video, I'm still on the fence on if I should go for topaz or not. If I do go for her, it'll most likely only be e0s0 and not extra investments. The team she'll be used in is my Feixiao (e0s1), march8th(e6 with s5 swordplay), robin (e1s1) and Aventurine (e0s0).
    From a purely meta perspective, is her upgrade over march8th substantial enough to warrant an extra 90+ pulls? By substantial enough, I mean something like pulling Jiaoqu and replacing silver wolf for a e0s1 Acheron team, does her upgrade over march8 have as much impact as a Jiaoqu replacing Silverwolf in an Acheron team?
    Anyways nice video, very informative, keep up the good work

    • @tbaumel
      @tbaumel 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      In your team, E0S0 Topaz will be only marginally better than March (and possibly even or a little bit worse if the enemy happens to be imaginary weak and/or fire resistant), so the answer to "will it be substantial enough like adding Jiaoqu to an Acheron team?" is 100% no. Unless Topaz is your dream waifu and you really want her, just save your jades :)

    • @_dinked
      @_dinked 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@tbaumel Thank you, I'm just quite surprised topaz is only somewhat better than march8th. The 50% FUA Vulnerability debuff seems like a huge buff for any FUA teams, especiall for feixiao since the bulk of her damage is from her FUA ult. Yet despite this, according to calculations topaz is only about 10% better than march8th. Is there a reason to this, or am I over valuing topaz's 50% FUA vulnerability debuff

    • @tbaumel
      @tbaumel 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@_dinked I haven't checked the calcs in detail to be able to tell you exactly why, but I'm guessing it all boils down to multiplicative vs additive buffs and diminishing returns for same types of dmg increases.
      If everything else is the same, your Feixiao who is dealing 10K damage on a FUA will not deal 15K damage with Proof of Debt, it'll probably be more like 11~12K, because Proof of Debt is not a separate multiplier that is applied after all the other buffs. So yeah, it's way less impressive than what it seems when you just see the 50% text (but still good of course).

    • @neokatwastaken
      @neokatwastaken 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​​​@@tbaumelmy guy you are completely wrong. The FUA team has no sources of Vulnerability outside of Topaz/Moze, and Vulnerability is a completely seperate multiplier, so their follow-up vulnerability debuffs are a raw increase in your damage. So yes, Topaz increases your total FUA dmg by 50% straight up, and Moze does it by 25%.
      In regards to what you are saying, March applies a 60% crit dmg buff, which is simply not comparable to Topaz's 50% fua vulnerability. E2 Moze however is much closer to Topaz since he does more damage, applies 25% fua vulnerability and a 40% crit dmg increase. So using Topaz instead of March is quite the jump in damage (Although I wouldn't call it a jiaoqiu-level increase) while using Topaz instead of E2+ Moze is a small DMG increase.
      Edit: One thing I forgot to mention, March 7th is actually probably the best option in Apocalyptic Shadow against wind/imaginary weak enemies because of her toughness breaking abilities. If you don't need the weakness break though, Topaz/Moze are much better

  • @JuStar-q1y
    @JuStar-q1y ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I wasn't planning to pull the anyways I'm saving for Sunday and Elysia Expy as well as Ruan mei anyways

  • @giorgostrim3709
    @giorgostrim3709 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think i will save my guaranteed if i dont manage to get Robin early ( lost her 50/50 on Welt wich is kinda bittersweet since i didnt have him and i can use him with Pela for my Acheron team. I also got Huohuo. So my Acheron is kinda eating rn)

  • @ReclusiveOrange
    @ReclusiveOrange ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Lingsha is an easy skip if you have E6 gallagher or you don't have a break team

  • @chrisbryant2867
    @chrisbryant2867 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Topaz needs her e1 and s1 if u cant get that then skip and if u have three sustainers then u dont need lingsha

  • @kiracaos
    @kiracaos 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Man, I know I have heard that outro song somewhere, but can't quite put my finger on it. Is it from Fire Emblem?

    • @Iwasbag
      @Iwasbag  6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yep, from fe4

  • @KumaKing
    @KumaKing 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I’m currently in a position where both of my teams are fighting for Gallagher. And one of my teams is FUA with Ratio Topaz Robin, the other is FF HMC etc etc. My other sustains are Lynx and Natasha LOL.
    The issue I’m running into is there’s like a very high chance Aventurine will be reran in 2.6. But I’m one of those types that don’t enjoy hoyoverse shielders because they tend to flatten the difficulty for their games. And I’ve heard that Aventurine is no exception to that, in that he can make the game too easy. Is this true from what you know or have experienced with Aventurine? And in that case should I be going for Lingsha for my FUA team or to free up my Gallagher?

    • @Namei116
      @Namei116 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I mean I think you answered your own question. If you don't like how op aventurine is but still want a sustain then get lingsha

    • @raffpdt
      @raffpdt 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Decide whether or not to pull when the livestream comes out for next patch. That way you’ll know for sure whether Aventurine reruns or not.
      … because holy sht Aventurine is such an account boost. Even if he makes endgame modes “easy”, trust me when I say you’ll never have to ask yourself questions about your sustain problems again. Lingsha is more of a want than a need for your acct imo, but nevertheless yes she can slot into a FUA team, Gall stays on your break team. Aventurine is better for FUA, but if you don’t like him thats fine too. Good luck!

  • @EngrBen23
    @EngrBen23 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Should I go e1 robin or e1 feixiao? I luckily pulled 2 copes of fei's sig lightcone. Or should I save for future units?

    • @j_iskobe
      @j_iskobe 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      E1 robin is definitely better. BUT if you're going for e2 feixiao now or eventually go for e1 fei

  • @AeliusSky
    @AeliusSky 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Pulling for Lingsha to make ultimate Firefly. Skill points aren’t a worry cuz I have E2 Firefly. As for other teams I already have E2 Acheron or E0 Feixiao Robin Aventurine March/Moze team. My girlfriend will get even stronger ❤

  • @Onii-Chan-UwU
    @Onii-Chan-UwU 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a question... I curently run huohuo and bailu as sustains... I have FF , FEIXIAO, KAFKA FULL DOT TEAM AND ACHERON....
    I am pulling for lingsha no matter ..
    But im at 50/50... If i win her i have no issues as she pretty much fit in perfectly in my acnt ...
    But say i lose... Is it worth to you know spend money and buy oneiric shards for linghsa ???
    Im kinda confused..
    Having her feels good and then not having her also kinda regretful .....😢😢😢😢😢
    Thank you for your video...

    • @Littlee4
      @Littlee4 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      If you feel like you can comfortably clear most endgame modes without survivability problems, then you should be fine without her. However, if you ARE struggling with survivability, or you just really like her, then go for it. 😊

    • @Onii-Chan-UwU
      @Onii-Chan-UwU 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Littlee4 im more confused about spending or not ... my plan B.. is it worth it.. really like the character and the kit as well.. and for hard content im bit struggling getting Stunned

    • @Littlee4
      @Littlee4 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @Onii-Chan-UwU yes I would say its worth it, BUT ONLY IF YOU CAN ALFORD IT AND ARE COMFORTABLE SPENDING do NOT feel pressured to spend you own money just because people tell you to 😋

    • @Onii-Chan-UwU
      @Onii-Chan-UwU 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Littlee4 i understand.. thanks

    • @RafaelLopez-dn6dx
      @RafaelLopez-dn6dx 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      As someone who has spend on a lot of gachas, i would say it's never worth to spend on this type of games lol, but if you have the money just do whatever that makes you happy

  • @torototoro1252
    @torototoro1252 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    pulling both e0s1 cuz i lack character diversity lol
    also cuz i dont have gallagher since i started too late, and id rather build a 5 star than my e6 moze

    • @chrisbryant2867
      @chrisbryant2867 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Don't pull for topaz if u can't get her e1 s1 u are wasting your jades

    • @torototoro1252
      @torototoro1252 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisbryant2867 im whaling anyways so i might as well get her e1
      thanks for the advice 🥹🙏

  • @jgmoney
    @jgmoney 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I'm on 50/50, so e1 Robin or e0 Topaz? IF I lose I will go for Adventurine.

    • @jgmoney
      @jgmoney 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Btw I plan to use Topaz (and replace March 7th) with Feixiao, Robin, then get adventurine later.

    • @ventrue7
      @ventrue7 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Imo Robin has the best e1 in the game and prob a better investment than e0 Topaz. I feel iike Topaz she needs e1s1 investment so up to you.

  • @jorgevalenzuela986
    @jorgevalenzuela986 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    maybe topaz is worth for the ability to find chest?

    • @Iwasbag
      @Iwasbag  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      TRUE

    • @-dana7dana.438
      @-dana7dana.438 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      Yt exist

    • @mcbx3d
      @mcbx3d 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      if you want to cheat chests we have the internet. xD

  • @wrath98
    @wrath98 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have E6 Moze, should I skip Topaz and just go for Aventurine instead?

    • @sweet_rain8352
      @sweet_rain8352 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Definitely, aventurine is an amazing sustain and thanks to him, I've forgotten what death is lol

    • @wrath98
      @wrath98 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@sweet_rain8352 amazing, thank you! Also have Fu Xuan but I want a sustain with FUAs for this team

    • @tomoe-donofanofalot2741
      @tomoe-donofanofalot2741 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I would agree with sweet rain he is really good. So my suggestion is the same as them, save up for him. His lightcone option is not that limited either the f2p preservation penacony light cone is already good for him.

    • @wrath98
      @wrath98 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tomoe-donofanofalot2741 cool, should definitely have enough for him by his banner. After that I just need Ruan Mei for my FF team

    • @tomoe-donofanofalot2741
      @tomoe-donofanofalot2741 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@wrath98 Good luck on your pulls mate