The best car journalists by a large margin. Interesting, compelling, and well written. Chris Harris was also great when he was independent, but just descent on top gear.
I love how this video got 2 dislikes before the first view was complete! That means my title is... WINNING! I explain the "mistake" thing in the video, but you'll just have to watch it. Questions? Ask 'em here.
Thanks for not beating up my Testarossa too much Jason! The title of the video did scare me a bit but you were right on in terms of the driving characteristics. I’m surprised you forgot to mention the car has a built in cocaine mirror in the glove compartment, ah the 80’s lol. 😎
In the early '80's, while working at a SF car repair shop, I was sent to the local tire store to pick up a Mercedes-Benz. There sat a 512BB. It was like seeing a rock star, only better.
The 512TR is quite honestly the only Ferrari I truly lust after, even counting modern stuff. Is it from growing up in the late 80's and early 90's? No idea! But it speaks to me like no other.
What a great "mistake" it was. I love the 512 TR. One of the coolest cars ever made besides the CarreraRS, the 930 Turbo, and the ultimate car ever made, the 959.
This video is extremely well done. Very entertaining and to the point. Love the speechless conclusion that says so much by comparing the 3 cars in just a few seconds. Impressive stuff. You guys rock!
Maybe I'm a generation late, but the Testarossa/512 TR is the ultimate 1980's/early 90's Ferrari. The 512 BB just looks back to the 1970's, same thing with the Tom Sellick mustache 308 models.
YEA, I USE TO HAVE ONE, BUT I GAVE IT TO A LONG GONE GIRL FRIEND 😩 BUT I KEEP THE COUNTACH 1988 SPECIAL EDITION MAGAZINE FOR EVER. SALUDOS FROM COSTA RICA. (how i missing my magazine 😭)
Please keep doing videos like this Jason. One of the best TH-cam car videos I’ve seen in ages. The testarossa/512tr is one of my favorite cars of all time. They drive like a Ferrari Cadillac (kind of disappointing-not very thrilling) but they have some of the most amazing iconic looks of all time. Thank you for making this video!
The auto industry needs more of these mistakes today. Everyone is coalescing around the same definition of perfection. 500cc/cyl ZF8 equipped AWD car with "drift mode". We won't be talking about the cars of today in 30 years......
Good video, very informative. The title had me almost mad lol. Testarossa's were bringing $50k over window in the '80s, thats $117k of todays money. Thats insane!
I guess the usual 1 hour long discussions on the channel retain many of today's 'TH-cam-eaters' to spend that much time watching a video where nothing happens visually. They are living in the fast lane. They aren't like many of us. After 28-years of ownership of Alfetta GTVs I still be able to gaze them long and realize new and new great details around.
It's a great video. from start to finish. Actually, I wished it never ended as the onboard experiences were so good. Those V12s sound amazing and the "click" of the gated boxes...
Anything before 2000 look great. After that Japanese Ken took control of Ferrari styling, it all looked terrible. I find it ironic since it wasn't the case for Maserati. Remember, the fourth gen Quattroporte with 4.2L V8 was also designed by that Japanese Ken.
I agree so much! On Instagram and TH-cam you see kids calling the 550 boring and they couldn't be more wrong. I think it's one of the best looking Ferraris ever made and even Ferrari collectors have the same opinion.
I own a Testarossa. One of 10 exotic cars I’ve had in the past few years. It far exceeds my expectations, and is the best of the bunch. The car is exactly what you would want, comfortable enough for grand tours, yet still fast enough to make you smile in the turns. The sound is incredible, and I love the weirdness of the car, nothing makes sense, and I love that!
The 512 TR still remains one of my favorite cars of all time, I'd like to think that I had exquisite taste as a small child, and you just confirmed it. Great video! Now i can go in peace
@@E3T7 Visually, the Testarossa and 512 TR are just the same apart from the front lights at the bottom, and that's it. But the 512 TR brings a substantial upgrade to the Testarossa and that is why I like the 512 TR more. It manages to be better without spoiling the look.
Farhan Ahmad Tajuddin I agree internally the TR is superior, but visually the changes are much more obvious than how you describe them. The black paint around parts like the skirts and front bumper (splitter) were removed, the iconic single mirror gone, (in ‘87, but like I said my fav is 84 to 86) as well as those legendary rims replaced. (Other things like wheels as well) That’s not to mention the biggest change with the front bumper you were talking about. The grill was an obvious change along with the lights. I know there’s some people who prefer the look but not me. The idea that the TR is a 90’s car also ruins the atmosphere as well imo. (Don’t get me wrong I love me some 90’s cars, but the best legends are from the 80’s)
Jason,your videos are so beautifully done and presented, so engaging and fascinating that it makes the others feel so humdrum & technical.you are way up there with the best
While the BB might have been the first production Flat-12, the Porsche 917 had a Flat-12 screaming on track just 4 years prior. So, maybe not the worlds "first" flat-12
I almost fell off my chair when he said "world's first and only ever horizontally opposed or flat 12". I'm not sure how you end up presenting an automotive channel, without knowing the Porsche 917, which was a legend not just at Le Mans and other European sports car races, but also in the Can-Am series until it was banned. It would be a little more understandable if someone didn't know about Ferrari running a flat-12 1.5L Ferrari 1512 in the 1964/65 Formula One seasons, as the team also ran the 158 1.5L V8 in most races, so those flat-12 cars probably aren't so well known.
@@alexjenner1108 Exactly. I was basically yelling at my phone watching this haha. Maybe he was referring solely to production cars for the most part but even so, we can't forget some of the early F1 greats and the mighty 917
ive owned a lot of cars and i just love my testarossa. The presences , the sounds , the smell, the comfort ( with upgrades over the years) make it one of my all time favorites. Thank you for the honest review and great factual information on the history of all the TR.
What about the pedals on the Testarossa being all the way to the right? When I sat in one, it was very uncomfortable having the pedals so close to the tunnel...your thoughts?
Horizontally opposed engine is a "boxer" (one piston at top of stroke the other at bottom of stroke on a horizonal plane) engine, unlike an opposed piston engine which is what you describe, (both at top or both at bottom, of stroke that meet in the middle, on a horizontal plane) is not. So the "180* V " in the BB/TR is a boxer engine.
Thank you!!! The whole "technically its not a boxer, its a flat V12" narrative has become a bit of a pet peeve of mine! Its not a damn V engine that was magically flatten. It's not a flat 12 that operates as a v12. Boxer engines are not defined by their crankshaft pins configuration... The 512 BB, Testarossa and the 512 TR all have flat 12's aka horizontally opposed 12's aka boxers. Period. I have a Testarossa that just got to my shop that had been down for the better part of 4 years because someone installed a Motec and programmed it run a v12. I reprogrammed the Motec to run a boxer 12, and what do you know, the engine fired up and purred. The car bounced from Ferrari shop to Ferrari shop because no one knew the Motec was configured by someone who bought into the "180* v12" theory. I swear, this is the automotive equivalent of flat earth theory.
@@erik_cruz That's all well and good with working out the firing sequence of the cranks, good work, but boxer/"horizontally opposed" pistons do not meet in the middle like your explanation/boxer gloved demonstration, i.e. smashing your fists together at 1:58. That is how an "opposed piston" crank/engine works, not a boxer crank/engine. The v 12 engine in the Testarossa has one crank and 12 cylinders/combustion chambers that each powers only the one piston in it, as opposed to an opposed piston combustion chamber that powers 2 pistons, each on its own separate crank, that meet at TDC in the same/shared combustion chamber, like your "boxing" demonstration at 1"58. If the v-12 in the Testarossa had an opposed piston engine like you demonstrate, it would have 2 cranks, and 6 combustion chambers. Cheers.
Well done. As someone whose owned all three you are very correct. The Boxer, particularly the 512BBi, is really the best of the bunch if you are looking for something that feels really special when you drive it. It also is aging well and like cream it will rise towards the top. The TR/512 are cool because, especially from the rear, they look like no other car ever made before or since.
Love the 512TR and I actually saw one a week ago 👌. They cost an absolute fortune. There is a low mileage one for sale in my home, Australia for $USD361,000 OR $526 000 Aussie dollars ! 🤷♂️
Ah...that's the Car & Driver issue with the test of the Alfa Romeo GTV-6, and it's a glowing review. I managed to run one for about five years and loved the car. It was fun!
I love the bb's pure look. More concept car feel but I also usually like early designs like the countach concept's super clean wedge vs later models with all the extra body panels, vents, scoops, wings, intake boxes and aero.
512TR is what the Testarossa should have been. It's a great car, much more practical, more reliable, much better looking. It has aged a lot less. Bigger wheels, ditching all the black plastic bodywork trim pieces. Waaaaay nicer interior. It's a lot faster too. In the real world a Testarossa has such a poor gear shift, weak clutch, brakes and soggy suspension it struggles to keep up with a modern day hot hatch but the 512 is much more refined.
OMG you make me laugh. I love how you describe and say things that no one else would have the balls to say, and you say it with such elegance. Keep up the good work brother.
Ok, 1st, I saw a number of BB's in the US in the 80's, and I remember them distinctly. A wealthy member of a group of friends hosted the Ferrari club at a catered party in his (large) back yard in suburban Baltimore. There were two BB's there. I saw another parked at a condo in LA. I saw others on the road. But you're saying they were not imported into the US, and weren't (if I understood you) strictly legal in the US. How did they get here? Were they modified for US restrictions? R&T did a comparo of the BB and Contouch in roughly fall of 1986 (I think), and both cars were driven to the test track. BB's weren't offered in the US??? That seems unlikely from what I saw... they were definitely here, so how did they get here? 2nd, I remember reading an eval of the 550 Maranello in the mid-late 90's, and they said it was incredibly well behaved at the limit, perfectly balanced, and toss-able. They said it was completely predictable at the limit in turns, the best available at the time. I don't remember which magazine, but probably either R&T or Car & Driver. That doesn't jive with the show tourer that you describe. I'm not a hater. I've enjoyed your video reviews for years. But I remember these cars, and those years a lot differently. Of course, not being anything close to Hoi Polloi myself, I've never driven them, only saw them and read about them... Am I wrong? Let me know. The edit was to correct Maranello model number from 570(meant 575) to 550 (available in the late 1990s)
Gray-market importing was common and easy enough with sufficient money until the mid-80s when Mercedes lobbied to shut it down and it became illegal to privately import any car newer than 1967 (later changed to the 25-year rolling cutoff we all know and fume about).
Exactly , well stated.🙂Most inventions occur by mistake.One of the best 1986 super- cars I have ever driven..., Testarossa with spline knock-off wheels...quite comfortable but not the easiest to drive...20 minute warm up time and forget about quick gear changes.....High C of G which makes the back end twitchy at speed around bends....and poor brakes. Forget about driving in traffic on a hot day.🥵🥵🥵😎At 11:11 Testarossa drivers' side mirror oscillates so retention spring is loose or missing.....a truly entertaining well presented video without the usual " hit the subscribe button B.S. Well done Sir Jason.👌👌👌
Fun to see this comment! My 1992 was exactly as you said, long warm up, the widest back tires ever but so easy to induce wheel spin, and a heavy/reluctant gear box... but I'm still glad I did it. It's one of those, stop/smack/wow, I really did that moments. It led me to look for more and I found the Ferrari Challenge, which was a blast.
Jason, I too was worried for a second or two how you were going to pillage my teenage poster car..you nailed it. And just like Harry Metcalfe, you showed me I should not have worried about buying one. I did get the Valium GT car, but I will comeback to the Testarossa soon.. Keep up the great videos
great video! your humor is very funny and educational at the same time. excellent delivery for an informative video on the history of these cars! i'm hitting thumbs way up! :)
Hmmm: “According to engineer Mauro Forghieri, the designation "BB" did not originally mean "Berlinetta Boxer." He stated during an interview with Davide Cironi that they knew the car was not equipped with a Boxer engine. He explained the meaning of the acronym (Berlinetta Boxer) was fabricated by journalists, in reality it means Berlinetta Bialbero (dual camshaft).”
Guy owns/owned a 308 GT4 and "gets it", also "gets" my dear old NSX, and is clearly a student of the game between this and the MC12 piece (among others). Sure, I'll subscribe. Well done.
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Testarossa is STILL beautiful. It’s rolling art!
The 512TR looks miles better.
I like the 512BB most
I would take any one of them over any of there current lineup, not one single current ferrari I like .
Paul Thomson so you’re the old man who wants to drive a couch type ?
meh... too 80 for me...
23 year-long mistake wow that's one year less than the Me lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same here...same here...
#metoo 😂
You weren't a mistake, you were a suprise... 😂
Same bro
This series is EXCELLENT. I love learning the backstories and real experiences behind these epic cars. You're not a mistake to us, Jason
Am only 24, I second this comment
I 3rd it Jason is one the all time best TH-cam car reviewers or car reviewer period my short list Jason and Chris Harris
The best car journalists by a large margin. Interesting, compelling, and well written. Chris Harris was also great when he was independent, but just descent on top gear.
I love how this video got 2 dislikes before the first view was complete! That means my title is... WINNING! I explain the "mistake" thing in the video, but you'll just have to watch it. Questions? Ask 'em here.
I havent even watched it yet and hit like! lol
@@lyndonklymchuk7391 Thaaaaaat's more like it! 🥰
JasonCammisa I can tell you put a lot of effort in your videos by the way you smelled that interior 😂 ! Love your videos man!
But can you reach the top of the steering wheel? (Also, maybe it's intentional, but I can hear "action" in the very beginning of the vid.)
Yep, that's how You make TH-cam videos ladies and gentleman.
Thanks for not beating up my Testarossa too much Jason! The title of the video did scare me a bit but you were right on in terms of the driving characteristics. I’m surprised you forgot to mention the car has a built in cocaine mirror in the glove compartment, ah the 80’s lol. 😎
that glove compartment mirror, first time i heard of it. awesome lmao
The Countach also had a cocaine mirror, as the mirror on the passenger side sun shade was detachable.
@@FrancoisSchneider "Why would you EVER need a small, handheld mirror in 1980s Miami?!"
-Doug DeMuro
Omg the Pro Creator himself 🤯
Enzo knew his customer base well
'Love It or Hate It' the *Testarossa* is and always will be one of Ferrari's most iconic looking Cars
Production is way too good for 60k subs. A gem yet to be discovered(lol), love the style, Cammisa
Cammisa is my all time favorite motoring journalist.
Amen to all above
It's like Donut but a bit less... flamboyant?
People will slowly continue to find it... But I agree
Too much for this cocaine addict
In the early '80's, while working at a SF car repair shop, I was sent to the local tire store to pick up a Mercedes-Benz. There sat a 512BB. It was like seeing a rock star, only better.
in an interview of Davide Cironi with Mauro Forghieri, he explained that BB means Berlinetta Bialbero (berlinetta Twin Cam)
Saw that. And I called Modena on this one and was told, in no uncertain terms, that BB came from BB, Bardot's nickname.
@@JasonCammisa They're selling a better story than the engineer could ever tell...
@@TehRuiAlv3z true
ownership manual says: Berlinetta Boxer
Forghieri is super underrated. First with a delta wing concept, first with a spoon wing concept and did the aero for the 250 gto.
This is one of the best Ferrari videos I've seen in a long time. I was always a big fan of the Testarossa. Thank you.
The 512TR is quite honestly the only Ferrari I truly lust after, even counting modern stuff. Is it from growing up in the late 80's and early 90's? No idea! But it speaks to me like no other.
"Looks like Cocaine, drives like Valium!"
*Snorts*
10:54 Your shifting in the BB was perfection, I had to rewatch several times to enjoy that close ratio box.
What a great "mistake" it was. I love the 512 TR. One of the coolest cars ever made besides the CarreraRS, the 930 Turbo, and the ultimate car ever made, the 959.
959 the ultimate car ever? You just picked a twin turbo 6 cylinder as the best car ever, you’re not to be trusted with car opinions.
@@BasedHadrian Ok cupcake. Go have a bubble bath.
@1% Evan Ł lol
@@BasedHadrian it's a really nice car
@@BasedHadrian it was a car that was way ahead of its time
The 512TR is the best looking Ferrari ever.
The best video on this era of Ferrari
This guy is the most entertaining car reviewer since clarkson. Perfectly balanced humor with detailed informative history.
Yessss I agree
too bad he sounds like an ass. you must be easily entertained.
@@amsterob You must be super fun at parties
Are you kidding me? You really like this kind of exaggerated clown behaviour? This isn't proper car journalism.
This show is automotive gold! Good job Jason & team! Can’t wait for the next episode!
I love car videos where you learn new things. This hasn't happened for me in at least a decade. Great video 👌
This video is extremely well done. Very entertaining and to the point. Love the speechless conclusion that says so much by comparing the 3 cars in just a few seconds. Impressive stuff. You guys rock!
Finally, the Testarossa/512 video everyone was waiting for. Took you long enough, Jason!
Maybe I'm a generation late, but the Testarossa/512 TR is the ultimate 1980's/early 90's Ferrari. The 512 BB just looks back to the 1970's, same thing with the Tom Sellick mustache 308 models.
Oh how I remember that Car&Driver magazine cover when I was a kid. That started my love affair not with the Testarossa, but with the GTO.
Instantly brought back memories
YEA, I USE TO HAVE ONE, BUT I GAVE IT TO A LONG GONE GIRL FRIEND 😩
BUT I KEEP THE COUNTACH 1988 SPECIAL EDITION MAGAZINE FOR EVER.
SALUDOS FROM COSTA RICA.
(how i missing my magazine 😭)
You nailed this video. As a 1987 TR owner you really hit this one out of the park. Well done!!!
Saluti dall'Italia Adam Sandler! Sei bravissimo
Ciiiiaaaaooo!
Having owned all of them, you are spot on. The Boxer has the most character, especially when properly restored.
This video popping up is the Best surprise to happen this week whilst taking a poo.
Hahahaha...I can relate :|
Testarossa for the looks, 512TR for the sound and BB for an excuse to learn how a flat 12 cannot be a boxer. Great vid as always.
I think I’d have to agree. Favorite car of all time is the og testa
Whoa this is where Jason went. He was sorely missed on MotorTrend reviews.
Please keep doing videos like this Jason. One of the best TH-cam car videos I’ve seen in ages. The testarossa/512tr is one of my favorite cars of all time. They drive like a Ferrari Cadillac (kind of disappointing-not very thrilling) but they have some of the most amazing iconic looks of all time. Thank you for making this video!
like your humour," buying a Congressman for a 100k " was spot on lol
I watch these because of this guy. I love the way he tells the stories of these cars.
The auto industry needs more of these mistakes today. Everyone is coalescing around the same definition of perfection. 500cc/cyl ZF8 equipped AWD car with "drift mode". We won't be talking about the cars of today in 30 years......
People will be talking about muscle cars though. The last bastion of naturally aspirated, manual, V8 cars...and every one ignored them.
There's Koeniggggsenisseggsegnignigsegigiseg
Hypercar-wise these are great years, I hope the valkyrie becomes the next F1
Good video, very informative. The title had me almost mad lol. Testarossa's were bringing $50k over window in the '80s, thats $117k of todays money. Thats insane!
How the F*** is this channel not on 100,000 subs already ?!
I guess the usual 1 hour long discussions on the channel retain many of today's 'TH-cam-eaters' to spend that much time watching a video where nothing happens visually. They are living in the fast lane. They aren't like many of us. After 28-years of ownership of Alfetta GTVs I still be able to gaze them long and realize new and new great details around.
This may sound like a dumb reason but it does have a terrible name, branding is very important
Fair breakdown of the TR... well done !
It's a great video. from start to finish. Actually, I wished it never ended as the onboard experiences were so good. Those V12s sound amazing and the "click" of the gated boxes...
*WHAT AN ASTONISHING* level of production quality 10/10 - you deserve 1m subs if this is your standard...!!!
Miami Vice made it out to be a cool car that's fast. I think they nailed it.
Great material,it deserves many more views. Thank you!
UGH 550 maranello one of the most beautiful cars ever.
Absolutely! I'd love a manual 550 Barchetta.
Anything before 2000 look great. After that Japanese Ken took control of Ferrari styling, it all looked terrible. I find it ironic since it wasn't the case for Maserati. Remember, the fourth gen Quattroporte with 4.2L V8 was also designed by that Japanese Ken.
I agree so much! On Instagram and TH-cam you see kids calling the 550 boring and they couldn't be more wrong. I think it's one of the best looking Ferraris ever made and even Ferrari collectors have the same opinion.
I own a Testarossa. One of 10 exotic cars I’ve had in the past few years. It far exceeds my expectations, and is the best of the bunch. The car is exactly what you would want, comfortable enough for grand tours, yet still fast enough to make you smile in the turns. The sound is incredible, and I love the weirdness of the car, nothing makes sense, and I love that!
Oh, forgot to mention my car was sold to Columbia for the first owner. Cocaine car confirmed!
The 512 TR still remains one of my favorite cars of all time, I'd like to think that I had exquisite taste as a small child, and you just confirmed it.
Great video! Now i can go in peace
The same for me. Heck, I'd take the 512 TR over the Testarossa all day. F512M is a big NO-NO, it's too fugly.
Farhan Ahmad Tajuddin What? I still can’t understand that. The ‘86 Rossa is my favorite car all time and IMO miles better than the 512.
@@E3T7 Visually, the Testarossa and 512 TR are just the same apart from the front lights at the bottom, and that's it. But the 512 TR brings a substantial upgrade to the Testarossa and that is why I like the 512 TR more. It manages to be better without spoiling the look.
Farhan Ahmad Tajuddin I agree internally the TR is superior, but visually the changes are much more obvious than how you describe them. The black paint around parts like the skirts and front bumper (splitter) were removed, the iconic single mirror gone, (in ‘87, but like I said my fav is 84 to 86) as well as those legendary rims replaced. (Other things like wheels as well) That’s not to mention the biggest change with the front bumper you were talking about. The grill was an obvious change along with the lights. I know there’s some people who prefer the look but not me. The idea that the TR is a 90’s car also ruins the atmosphere as well imo. (Don’t get me wrong I love me some 90’s cars, but the best legends are from the 80’s)
Jason,your videos are so beautifully done and presented, so engaging and fascinating that it makes the others feel so humdrum & technical.you are way up there with the best
Ok the 512M is NOT THAT BAD, it’s just the weird front grille opening, idk that’s the only excuse I can give it
Yes! I too can't understand the hate behind the M... I'd even venture to say it's one of the most beautiful 512 derivates
9:02 Just to look at the 512M it's make me wanna 🤮🤮🤮
The finest automotive journalism there is
Love the driving videos at the end!
This is a great series with an entertaining script and commentator. Really enjoyable!
When I see a gated shifter, I turn into a telescope.
thanks for fixing the volume difference between the voice over and camera segments.
While the BB might have been the first production Flat-12, the Porsche 917 had a Flat-12 screaming on track just 4 years prior. So, maybe not the worlds "first" flat-12
I almost fell off my chair when he said "world's first and only ever horizontally opposed or flat 12". I'm not sure how you end up presenting an automotive channel, without knowing the Porsche 917, which was a legend not just at Le Mans and other European sports car races, but also in the Can-Am series until it was banned. It would be a little more understandable if someone didn't know about Ferrari running a flat-12 1.5L Ferrari 1512 in the 1964/65 Formula One seasons, as the team also ran the 158 1.5L V8 in most races, so those flat-12 cars probably aren't so well known.
@@alexjenner1108 Exactly. I was basically yelling at my phone watching this haha. Maybe he was referring solely to production cars for the most part but even so, we can't forget some of the early F1 greats and the mighty 917
ive owned a lot of cars and i just love my testarossa. The presences , the sounds , the smell, the comfort ( with upgrades over the years) make it one of my all time favorites. Thank you for the honest review and great factual information on the history of all the TR.
Yet you type like a 3rd grader. I call bullshit.
0:00 Anyone else hear the director say "action"? :P
What about the pedals on the Testarossa being all the way to the right? When I sat in one, it was very uncomfortable having the pedals so close to the tunnel...your thoughts?
Good to see Adam Sandler has been reading up on cars and learned how to act.
Horizontally opposed engine is a "boxer" (one piston at top of stroke the other at bottom of stroke on a horizonal plane) engine, unlike an opposed piston engine which is what you describe, (both at top or both at bottom, of stroke that meet in the middle, on a horizontal plane) is not. So the "180* V " in the BB/TR is a boxer engine.
Thank you!!! The whole "technically its not a boxer, its a flat V12" narrative has become a bit of a pet peeve of mine! Its not a damn V engine that was magically flatten. It's not a flat 12 that operates as a v12. Boxer engines are not defined by their crankshaft pins configuration... The 512 BB, Testarossa and the 512 TR all have flat 12's aka horizontally opposed 12's aka boxers. Period. I have a Testarossa that just got to my shop that had been down for the better part of 4 years because someone installed a Motec and programmed it run a v12. I reprogrammed the Motec to run a boxer 12, and what do you know, the engine fired up and purred. The car bounced from Ferrari shop to Ferrari shop because no one knew the Motec was configured by someone who bought into the "180* v12" theory. I swear, this is the automotive equivalent of flat earth theory.
@@erik_cruz That's all well and good with working out the firing sequence of the cranks, good work, but boxer/"horizontally opposed" pistons do not meet in the middle like your explanation/boxer gloved demonstration, i.e. smashing your fists together at 1:58. That is how an "opposed piston" crank/engine works, not a boxer crank/engine. The v 12 engine in the Testarossa has one crank and 12 cylinders/combustion chambers that each powers only the one piston in it, as opposed to an opposed piston combustion chamber that powers 2 pistons, each on its own separate crank, that meet at TDC in the same/shared combustion chamber, like your "boxing" demonstration at 1"58. If the v-12 in the Testarossa had an opposed piston engine like you demonstrate, it would have 2 cranks, and 6 combustion chambers. Cheers.
That ending was great to hear the comparison!
I remember reading his Automobile column “Collectible Classic” featuring that Scirocco and all those old cars-time flies!
simply, 180 degree engine is call boxer. Amen.
Well done. As someone whose owned all three you are very correct. The Boxer, particularly the 512BBi, is really the best of the bunch if you are looking for something that feels really special when you drive it. It also is aging well and like cream it will rise towards the top. The TR/512 are cool because, especially from the rear, they look like no other car ever made before or since.
Love the 512TR and I actually saw one a week ago 👌.
They cost an absolute fortune. There is a low mileage one for sale in my home, Australia for
$USD361,000 OR
$526 000 Aussie dollars ! 🤷♂️
Intelligent Iconoclasm. That´s what You Tube and it´s tons of car videos need!! Thank you deeply!
5:11 Harry Metcalfe can confirm
I watch because of you, not the topics. Your the best.
Actually BB stands for berlinetta bi-albero.
officially it stands for Berlinetta Boxer, as the owners manual says...
@@retroracingshirt591 The actual Engineer who worked on the car said in an interview that it was bi-albero. Later it was confused.
@@cicci0salsicci0 yes I know
Ah...that's the Car & Driver issue with the test of the Alfa Romeo GTV-6, and it's a glowing review. I managed to run one for about five years and loved the car. It was fun!
I love the bb's pure look. More concept car feel but I also usually like early designs like the countach concept's super clean wedge vs later models with all the extra body panels, vents, scoops, wings, intake boxes and aero.
512TR is what the Testarossa should have been. It's a great car, much more practical, more reliable, much better looking. It has aged a lot less. Bigger wheels, ditching all the black plastic bodywork trim pieces. Waaaaay nicer interior. It's a lot faster too. In the real world a Testarossa has such a poor gear shift, weak clutch, brakes and soggy suspension it struggles to keep up with a modern day hot hatch but the 512 is much more refined.
I love you Jason. Nothing in the automotive industry is better than you rn
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Idk what but Jason and RCR need to collaborate on something. Their writing is off the charts!
YES! If RCR didn’t stick to PA/east coast I’d love to see more journalists get weird with them!
Glad I got this channel recommended by a friend
This was really clever and well done. Really appreciate the effort to tell something new about such an icon!
Best car series on youtube! keep the content coming
Jason - thank you for your old-school analysis. It hearkens back to the day when you [and he who will remain nameless] were doing fun videos.
OMG you make me laugh. I love how you describe and say things that no one else would have the balls to say, and you say it with such elegance. Keep up the good work brother.
Ok, 1st, I saw a number of BB's in the US in the 80's, and I remember them distinctly. A wealthy member of a group of friends hosted the Ferrari club at a catered party in his (large) back yard in suburban Baltimore. There were two BB's there. I saw another parked at a condo in LA. I saw others on the road. But you're saying they were not imported into the US, and weren't (if I understood you) strictly legal in the US. How did they get here? Were they modified for US restrictions? R&T did a comparo of the BB and Contouch in roughly fall of 1986 (I think), and both cars were driven to the test track. BB's weren't offered in the US??? That seems unlikely from what I saw... they were definitely here, so how did they get here?
2nd, I remember reading an eval of the 550 Maranello in the mid-late 90's, and they said it was incredibly well behaved at the limit, perfectly balanced, and toss-able. They said it was completely predictable at the limit in turns, the best available at the time. I don't remember which magazine, but probably either R&T or Car & Driver. That doesn't jive with the show tourer that you describe.
I'm not a hater. I've enjoyed your video reviews for years. But I remember these cars, and those years a lot differently. Of course, not being anything close to Hoi Polloi myself, I've never driven them, only saw them and read about them... Am I wrong? Let me know. The edit was to correct Maranello model number from 570(meant 575) to 550 (available in the late 1990s)
Gray-market importing was common and easy enough with sufficient money until the mid-80s when Mercedes lobbied to shut it down and it became illegal to privately import any car newer than 1967 (later changed to the 25-year rolling cutoff we all know and fume about).
Simply the best reviewer there is. Love this guy
straight to my top 5 car videos on youtube together with your video with integrale and Ari Vatanen, 1988 Pikes Peak climb
Awesome episode. One of my most favorite episodes on You Tube . Thank you.
Exactly , well stated.🙂Most inventions occur by mistake.One of the best 1986 super- cars I have ever driven..., Testarossa with spline knock-off wheels...quite comfortable but not the easiest to drive...20 minute warm up time and forget about quick gear changes.....High C of G which makes the back end twitchy at speed around bends....and poor brakes. Forget about driving in traffic on a hot day.🥵🥵🥵😎At 11:11 Testarossa drivers' side mirror oscillates so retention spring is loose or missing.....a truly entertaining well presented video without the usual " hit the subscribe button B.S. Well done Sir Jason.👌👌👌
Fun to see this comment! My 1992 was exactly as you said, long warm up, the widest back tires ever but so easy to induce wheel spin, and a heavy/reluctant gear box... but I'm still glad I did it. It's one of those, stop/smack/wow, I really did that moments. It led me to look for more and I found the Ferrari Challenge, which was a blast.
How this channel not have a million subs already
Jason, I too was worried for a second or two how you were going to pillage my teenage poster car..you nailed it. And just like Harry Metcalfe, you showed me I should not have worried about buying one. I did get the Valium GT car, but I will comeback to the Testarossa soon..
Keep up the great videos
great video! your humor is very funny and educational at the same time. excellent delivery for an informative video on the history of these cars! i'm hitting thumbs way up! :)
To me it is still one of the greatest and most beautiful cars ever made
Uhm... Mr. Sandler, was the dismissal of the 456 as the first front-engined v12 since the Daytona on purpose?
I have nevers seen a better review on the Testarossa!!! Simply AMAZING! GRET JOB GUYS!!! You got a new subscriber.
This is hands down one of the best car vids out there!
I always thought BB actually stood for "Bare Back" because the driving experience was so raw.
Most underrated comment ever lol.
@@bryantbridgewaters7177 Thanks. It's about time about time someone recognizes truth in commentary. 👨🏫
This is educational and should be on PBS.
How am I just finding this channel now?? Incredible job on your videos
The Testarossa is the Second most iconic Ferrari between the F40 and the 308
What about the f12 and the 599 aren’t those considered mid engine v12 GT cars although they’re“front mounted”?
Great series, thank you for the work.
The quality here is may to good for under 100k subs. Good luck growing and imma sub rn
Finally an explanation for the "boxer" goof. So many time's I see car journalists describe the flat 6 as a boxer etc.
Hmmm: “According to engineer Mauro Forghieri, the designation "BB" did not originally mean "Berlinetta Boxer." He stated during an interview with Davide Cironi that they knew the car was not equipped with a Boxer engine. He explained the meaning of the acronym (Berlinetta Boxer) was fabricated by journalists, in reality it means Berlinetta Bialbero (dual camshaft).”
Sometimes God tries to make Adam Sandlers and he mistakenly makes Jason Camissas. You're the best mistake ever Jason! Awesome video!
I learned a lot of new things about my favorite car brand and in a fun and interesting way, really liked this video a lot...
Great documentary! This clarifies a lot of the why’s and how’s of late 20th century Ferrari history. Thanks!
Guy owns/owned a 308 GT4 and "gets it", also "gets" my dear old NSX, and is clearly a student of the game between this and the MC12 piece (among others). Sure, I'll subscribe. Well done.