I filled in your questionnaire recently and i have to say, I don't see the same negativity here in the Netherlands, even if the fossil fuel industry wins small battles, it is going to lose this war, this is a fight to the death... Theirs.
Here's a little story. I was in NL and mostly Amsterdam in October 2023 to view the Fully Charged Show event at the RAI. The Netherlands is awash with BEVs, especially in Amsterdam. Half the taxis are BEVs. I talked with the drivers, they adored their BEVs. They were so trouble free and cheap to run. One owner/driver with an elderly Tesla Model S said he'd had it from new and couldn't bear to part with it, although he would eventually get a Model Y. And btw, the public transport infrastructure is also excellent. So that was the Netherlands. I got back in the UK and the first taxi driver who picked me up asked where I'd been and I told him. Straight up, his next statement was, "I don't think they'll catch on, do you?" I was so dumb struck by the ignorance I just answered, "probably not." And that's what programming by propaganda does to a person, instead of first hand experience. That UK driver will lose £1000s upon £1000s before he wakes up.
Great pod cast. One thing that is missing is nothing on targetting the new generation of kids coming through the education system. Get into schools, get your story out to the kids. I talk to my 4.5yr old grand daughter about how charging my car works and I let her press the charge button on the app to demistify it and to my 15yr old grand daughter about how she should seek jobs in the new green industries. Convert the youth, the oldies (me) are too set in their ways.
the age of the voting population is shifting and in many countries over the next few years we will see the number of "young" people who are can't get a leg up outnumbering the "old" who like the status quo. They have little no loyalty and will vote with whomever benefits them and their future the most.
Newspapers should have to print the redaction at the same size and on the same page as the original story. Thus, front page lies should be front page redactions. This would be fair and might actually reduce the lies.
It seems so obvious it's ludicrous that it isn't already an obligation. It's the same with fining a company 10 million for unlawful behaviour that earned them benefits of 400 Million. Our governments are a joke, they are pathetic. Do they actually think they can solve our problems, by doing things that encourage them? Are they really that stupid?
:) never will, and most of the papers/media are full lies and twisting and manipulation... run by largely 1 group of people ? makes you wonder what they are upto ?
@@reubenwilkinson6493 and my comments to this thread were deleted because I noticed that a 1-5 % minority control that loverly media... and we can't talk about it. I only knew that it was deleted because I came back to reply to this, and saw the message gone... How youtube protects free speech :)
Had a walk yesterday like i do every day .Retired 75 years old.You can hear the cars going by the noise and the dirt coming out of the exhaust.It is an out dated technology it had its day and we have to move on.I live in the Eat riding of Yorkshire .UK.I am waiting for my first E.V this year better late than never.
Power to you! 67 year old retired living in France here... got my EV in 2019, over 100,000 km of cheap, enjoyable trouble free driving, 80% of it powered by the solar panels on my roof. Enjoy your EV..😊
Judging by your inability to type a simple English sentence on a keyboard, you probably should not be driving at 1.5 Tonne car near other people at your age. Your abilities are clearly impaired and you are probably unaware of it.
No. The potholes story wasn't made up at all. There certainly was some spin to the story, without a doubt. However, if in the years to come, there are only battery vehicles and we are still experiencing potholes then what's your excuse? Do you see the flaw in your comment?
@@keithwillis5662 😂😂😂😂 Yes, but how did the roads get damaged in the first place? Rural/suburban roads aren't built to the same spec as major roads. Granted HGVs take a toll but you don't see many in suburbia. Heavy vehicles cause the problem and a fair few heavy vehicles are battery EVs. As we transition to EVs then, to repeat, eventually the damage to roads will be caused by battery EVs. Presuming battery EVs are still a thing and still around that is.
Almost all new cars are heavier than older models, EVs are also heavier than petrols on the whole like for like, but seeing as we have so few EVs on the road currently and we still have plenty of potholes I'm 100percent certain it's not the main issue. They are part of it yes but no more than many other cars. I would guess that underfunding of roads maintenance, and an increase of suvs and crossovers as well as all car weights is the main issue. I expect we will see EVs get lighter with time as charging availability is improved and there are more small cars with smaller batteries available.
You guys have voice, get politicians to incentify us to make EVs and their car batteries part of the home energy solution, so we can save money and put energy into the grid. Keep up the good work...
The gov doesn't want manufacturing in this country because making things especially batteries pumps a lot of pollutants out which contravenes their climate policy. Better off set our pollution to China and stay within target.
My Ford lightning truck has worked out great for me. I bought it to use locally. Maximum round trip maybe 240 miles. I never use public chargers other than to use the free 250 kwh I received with my lightning. At $.08/kwh in the winter and $.12/kwh in the summer I couldn't even achieve that kind of economy with my 2018 prius which I normally got 50+ mpg. Lately even better because I've been charging my truck using my excess solar power that used to go to waste.
[10:35] Renewable Energy related issues are being weaponised because the status quo in many organisations and in particular the oil and car industries has been challenged successfully. In the past when the oil industry could throw money at a newspaper or a politician and completely squash information that was detrimental to shareholders the renewable movement was seen as a minor threat. But the footfall of people marching towards renewable energy means they can't be complacent any more. They have to fight or die and they've decided to fight dirty. People need to remember the one massive upside to Covid - less polluting vehicles on the roads and in the skies. It showed starkly how massive a difference it makes in a very short period of time. Cleaner air, quieter streets, less pollution, increased health, happier wildlife and on and on.
A very interesting conversation. I broadly agree with all the contributors here. There is a massive pushback from the vested interests in the fossil fuels industry, many people are being manipulated by this. When I got my EV in 2019, those around me thought I was brave and possibly a bit foolish. The sentiment has shifted to you’re making all the potholes, car parks will collapse, don’t park near my car because yours is going to burn with an unstoppable fire. Not everyone, but a significant few.
Interesting, but proof that the oil industry sponsored misinformation is getting into the heads of Joe Public....then again Boris got elected on 'Get Brexit Done' and the UK has been paying the price for that. In the Gullible versus Sceptics battles Gullible normally wins.
The cost of charging away from home is ridiculous 79 to 85p per kWh. I own a brilliant Zoe and always try to charge at a Tesla charger for at least half of that cost. Certain charging operators including Shell and BP are just extracting the urine.
BP, Shell and the like are trying to protect their core business and profit margin that's why they charge the same as buying fuel from their petrol stations. IMHO
They are I agree. However for most new EV drivers they will very rarely use a public charger. However you are correct they are taking the piss. It will change with competition.
I wouldn't have purchased my lightning if I had to depend on public chargers. My Ford lightning truck has worked out great for me. I bought it to use locally. Maximum round trip maybe 240 miles. I never use public chargers other than to use the free 250 kwh I received with my lightning. At $.08/kwh in the winter and $.12/kwh in the summer I couldn't even achieve that kind of economy with my 2018 prius which I normally got 50+ mpg. Lately even better because I've been charging my truck using my excess solar power that used to go to waste.
Agree totally. I have always boycotted both BP & Shell EV chargers, and any which are ‘supported’ or partnered with. As far as I am concerned they are the problem not the solution and any part I can play in their demise makes me happy.
Time to equate the argument to smoking in work places etc - the reasons can be the same - the right not to breathe fumes from someone else. How about getting some pollution sensors along some high streets at different height levels to show people that kids at exhaust level are getting the worst of it.
This happening in the USA to a larger extent as we have fewer EV companies and EV models because of the tariffs that has been put in place towards China. All this tariff is doing is allowing the American auto makers to languish in their development of new EV technology
I agree we don't need tariffs. The EV market is only 7% in the US, (down from 8% last year). Nobody made any money selling them and it costs the tax payer a fortune. I say let China have that entire market if they really want that albatross.- they can pay for the chargers too while their at it.
That’s not the reason for the tariffs , the Chinese communist party is subsidising Chinese car manufacturers to such an extent that European and American private companies cannot complete. It’s unfair trading , the Americans could just stand by and let them kill off American companies and do nothing . This podcast is a good example of lying , telling half the truth is still a lie .
Keep up the fight guys. Why not interview Dale Vince and get his perspective on the practicalities of increasing onshore wind and rebuilding the National Grid to deal with the future?
Good to hear and see my preferred term "BEV" being used more often. "EV" has been diluted and politicised, and includes the Hybrid vehicle in its various forms. For various reasons, these vehicles are not good PR for the movement.
Great video yet again..I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again you need to talk to the Lee aka MacMaster where he constantly says that the cars are good but the infrastructure is really poor and the cost of charging in publicly which are know Quintin is banging on with the government about 5% & 20% vat this and I think this is where EV sales are dragging their feet.. Get the Macmaster on board… cheers all.. Chris..
After a slow start, it feels like Australia might "do a Bradbury" with EV's. With no car industry to protect, the Chinese companies are all coming here tariff free. We were ignored by VW who still haven't brought any EV's here. It's too late now, I have a Dolphin
I had what they called a "Clean Diesel" but knowing it was a lie, I swapped to an EV. Also I felt that due to the iincreasing fuel prices every year, I was not driving as many miles and really had to think about the trips I did. Having swapped to an EV , three and a half years ago, I now have the freedom to do as much as I want as the cost is much lower for my trips. To me it is far better in every way than an ICE vehicle and better for the environment and air we breathe. This was a fantastic discussion and I certainly see that this EV transition may hit a few speed bumps but more and more people are buying them and more people are being seen enjoying them.
Thanks gentlemen for yet another excellent analysis. Quentin, enjoy your drive down to Bordeaux but I would recommend getting off the A10 at Poitiers and take the N10 toll free all the way down to Bordeaux. It's a much nicer run all on dual carriageway and takes you through the Cognac vineyards. You're welcome to pop in for a cuppa as we live 5 minutes from the N10 near Limalonges between Poitiers and Angouleme. 😊
Regarding UK manufacturing. The risk with making stuff in the UK is that it might eventually increase the strength of Unions. That is totally unacceptable to the Exploitative Class. It was only 35 years ago that everything was closed down to get rid of Unions and there is no way that a reverse will be accepted now.
The economics of distributing fuel by tankers will reach a tipping point as demand drops which will force up forecourt prices. This will tip the balance towards EVs at an ever faster rate once it's reached.
The LibDems are talking about cutting fuel duty because it's eye-wateringly high and they're running out of ways to relieve pressure on people who don't currently have a BEV. What they should all do is decouple the price of electricity from Gas costs and find ways to promote better charging infrastructure ahead of a surge in purchasing.
The Lid Dem idea of cutting fuel duty is to help those living out in the sticks where there is little or no public transport and people have to drive long distances to get to shops and public utilities. Decoupling the electricity price from hat from that of gas would be a better alternative. The elephant in the room is that fuel duty raises a huge amount of money for the government. With widespread adoption of EVs that is going to disappear. It may have to be replaced by a mileage levy calculated from the distance covered in the previous year combined with information about the type of vehicle. The information is already collected at each MOT so it could be extended to cover the first three years when there is no MOT. It would mean that he cost per mile of EVs would be similar to those of ICEs.
@@rogerphelps9939 The levy should be based on car weight. A heavy car is less efficient, uses more material, typically bigger, causes more damage to the road.
In Hong Kong the latest Kona is selling for around £16k , as there is strong competition from the Chinese brands. I have a Kona with a 39kw battery that does 360km per charge. I charge once a week using a the granny charger that fully recharges the battery overnight. I get 8.5 km per kw on average, so it seems a smaller battery is ideal for my situation. Interestingly, a recent comment on fully charged by a guest who said that many owners of 300 mile plus range evs rarely do those distances. So, when choosing the battery size people often over estimate their real needs.
Some excellent points. Maybe we should lobby across all political parties to ensure there’s an influential non partisan group of informed people to counter the rubbish and develop long term policies across parties.
I've had solar panels for 8 years, a home battery for 6 years, an electric vehicle for 5 years. All due to the fully charged shows. I've paid off the PVs (I got the last but one Feed in tariffs) and the battery cost already. My home is fully electric and I have a home charger for my EV. At present my electricity bill is £40 a month (with an octopus agile tariff) including all fuel costs. It's all from your channel and I'm incredibly grateful to you. I would never go back to an ICE vehicle, my ev is easier to drive, cheaper to run and has a range of 250m This is not political for me, it just makes sense all round. I'm female, not rich, I'm 75 and not particularly tech savvy and I'm still incredibly grateful to you all. Keep up the good work!!!
Come to Bristol & observe the utter desert of electrification that we have. Glacial would be a generous way of describing it. Virtually no on street charging. A few in shopping centres but the city as a whole, which is considered ‘green’ is laughable. I will not be able to move to EV as there is no infrastructure & low levels of off-street parking make ownership untenable.
Don't have an electric car myself but I occasionally drive one at work. It's only a corsa but it's amazing to drive and I always enjoy it. These days I only buy 2nd hand but my next car will be an EV, probably an ioniq, mg5 or a corsa.
I don't think the journos who write EV FUD care either way, they just write whatever gets clicks. Those who believe it want to believe it and its simply confirmation that they are correct in their ignorance.
Follow the money. We need to have candidates from all parties at these elections come clean on their current and previous affiliation with the fossil fuels industry. Were they ever employed, advised or investors in the industry? What's their undeclared interest? Then we can see why they don't get behind the clean energy, clean air, low carbon transition we know we need
I do not agree that ICE vehicles should be banned. I also think scraping ICE cars is not environmentally friendly & more should be put into conversions.
@@pstoneking3418 Not a very good idea. Successful EVs are designed as EVs from the ground up. Converting an ICE o EV is expensive and will probably be disappointing.
I'm a long time EV owner and what I have seen is my friends and family wanting to buy second hand EVs now they have come down in price, but not going forward because they cannot charge at home. This is either due to no off road parking or garages not suitable or attached to their homes. When they have looked at the cost of charging at other facilities the cost has been comparable to petrol or diesel. Maybe an option to buy cheaper electric at charging stations would be a good step forward.
I’ve used a normal plug in charger for two years now, your car is parked for 14hrs every night so never had any issues with the rate of charge. Not having a dedicated charger shouldn’t be a blocker.
@@Bobthepragmatist If you can't park the car near your house, you can't plug the thing in, irrespective of the type of charger. Electricity needs to be cheaper. It shouldn't be connected with gas prices.
Educate your friends and family regarding the concept of "Graze Charging". Idea. Depending on YOUR circumstances, Try running your EV for a month without plugging in at home. Charge at your destination while doing what you went there to do. That would be a convincing argument for those with an open mind. (You may also find out who trusts your integrity?)
Net zero, green, climate blah blah blah who cares the mere fact that 70-80 percent of what i put in my gasoline tank is wasted pisses me off. ICE vehicles are obsolete just on that 1 fact.
My Ford lightning truck has worked out great for me. I bought it to use locally. Maximum round trip maybe 240 miles. I never use public chargers other than to use the free 250 kwh I received with my lightning. At $.08/kwh in the winter and $.12/kwh in the summer I couldn't even achieve that kind of economy with my 2018 prius which I normally got 50+ mpg. Lately even better because I've been charging my truck using my excess solar power that used to go to waste.
The oil industry, politicians, Big 3 and dealers in the USA will forestall that day as long as they can. We are screwed if trump wins, and screwed if Biden wins. "Any way you look at it you lose", sang Simon & Garfunkel.
It’s called buying a used car. Battery warranties are eight years by law most places. In practice batteries last a lot longer. The beauty of buying a used electric car is that there’s less to break or fail, including batteries. Then there’s the cost of charging and the ease of driving them in heavy traffic. Seriously, just try one and see for yourself, rather than listening to the naysayers.
I agree, we have been asleep at the wheel. I live next to whitelees wind farm just south of Glasgow and it’s enormous. I also get people saying my heatpump doesn’t work (it very much does!) and that it was probably made in China. Yet it was made by Mitsubishi 26 miles away from my house.
Just to let you know that when I tried to use your template to my MP (Ed Milliband) it said the field was too long. I had to delete all but the first paragraph for it to go through. I’m guessing that a lot of people would just give up, so I think it’s worth looking into to ensure as many MPs as possible get the message.
Don't worry, haters gonna hate, trolls gonna troll. When tractors replaced livestock to take care of the fields, it was the same, there were people not wanting to adopt. But I'm the end they all did, they still missed the best parts of it...😂
In an odd sort of way those who were reluctant to stop using livestock to farm would have done a lot less harm to the environment than mechanised farming has done.
Cable thefts could be deterred by wrapping the charge cables with kevlar. Also a shelter over chargers would be nice for when it's raining cars and dogs. The first time I tried an osprey and it rains the sort that soaks you through in a matter of seconds!! I felt like that fat guy outta jurassic Park!
Would it be useful for the electric utility supplying Mar a Lago to do some work on the supply leading to needing to cut the supply for say a week whilst 45 is in residence.
Will anyone be able to buy a diesel car in 2029? Already diesel make up just 7% of car registrations in the UK. Due to low and reducing diesel car sales companies have already reduced the number of diesel engine offerings. Won't be long until many models have no diesel version.
Over the last 20 years Oil and Gas in the UK has declined by about 1% year year. 2004 90% 2024 70% The line being used by O&G is that the UK will need fossil fuels for years to come. However if the Tony Seba S Curve is followed the straight line decline will perceivably begin to dip very soon. If we say that the UK base needs are 20% then it how the 50% disappears. On thing is for sure it will be far less than 50 years at the current rate. To understand how quickly this will be you have to aggregate the 4 key users Electricity Generation, Heating, Industrial Use and Transport.
Change is confusing. Confusion conjures stress. Stress turns fear to anger. This process can span months or years, but it can also happen at the speed of thought, in our minds and manifest instantly as anger. Someone who literaaly LIVES in an area of rapid change can find it difficulut condensing thousands of hours of learning into a 10 second "sound bite". It is our fate...
I really wish we could move on from the EV debate and talk more about infrastructure for green transport. Roadmap for blue and green hydrogen should really be the next milestone to aim for. Then the rest will fall into place.
Yes, recently Chesterfield lawn tennis clubs two Instavolt chargers were out of action for around two months. For that. Also 12 Osprey not yet commissioned at Chezzy FC also decapitated.
A Chinese economist said, "the West has 1 day Democracy (Election day)", but many days make a meritocracy work (China's 30-year economic miracle) also: "The Chinese state guides capital and private entities towards what it believes are national strategic priorities, rather than allowing them to simply focus on generating greater revenue." Jack Ma founder of Alibaba & Ant Group thought he could prioritize profit; he was reminded that is not the Chinese way? President Xi Jinping was sent to work on a farm in a rural Chinese village in his youth to instill him with a sense of reality, he saw the importance of local ideas being able to percolate up to the top of the governing body to help all other villages in China.
There is another article about why Ev's aren't green every month meanwhile wind, solar and storage decrease in cost and increase by every other possible measurement steadily, the self interest and straight stupidity of those willing to believe it and unwilling to look into it for themselves with an easy google search blows my mind while I imagine where we could be now if we acted united towards electrification decades ago.
I see the biggest problem with Ev's is the charging infrastructure. Not enough working chargers and the charge per kwh is ridiculous. When there are chargers at most gas stations and the kwh charge comes down relative to home electric charges, the EV sales will escalate.
Gas stations can serve a dozen customers in 5 minutes, that's why they can afford to occupy prime locations on main streets, intersections and on/off ramps. The high traffic flow also makes a convenience store viable. But you'd need a football field of chargers for that traffic with EVs, which is why they are located at the back of the parking lot behind Walmart..
@@jletts4354 Exactly- I don't have to get off my route and find a supermarket to spend half an hour or more. I just watch for the next big sign at the side of the road, and I'm on my way in minutes with 400 miles more range. Whether you're travelling for pleasure or business or family, you just want to get to your destination. I don't need any extra delays and setbacks.
Solar Panels, Batteries and a 2nd hand EV have cost us £26k (spread over 7-10 years) which many people can't do. Not changing costs them £5k when they buy a 2nd hand ICE.
Polestar EVs are manufactured in China, so they will probably be transported by large specialized "roll-on roll-off" ships. Those hold something like 5000 cars. So each time one of these arrives in a port near you, you might notice a change on the roads.
Someone recently pointed me to a very important fact: the largest car market globally is now China! And with 43% BEV market share in the first quarter 2024 the ICE market is shrinking very rapidly. The other thing is that quite something countries are discovering now, that they are able to buy renewable electricity generators relatively cheap and it is a one-off payment compared to buying other fuels continuously, they start encouraging the use of BEVs. So all these data points make me optimistic that "resistance is futile"!😉 But of course still remains to tackle all the issues still existing, with legal, the starting prices and the lack of smaller more efficient and reasonably priced EVs...
It's simple Quentin, They are facing the costs of actually doing the job AND losing all the money they have invested in the old systems of gas, petrol, diesel.
Hello, Is there a possibility for 2025 Everything Electric in Canada to come to the eastern side of the country where 2/3rds of the population is? A place like Ottawa would be be ideal as it's on the border with Quebec and Ontario, and is centrally located from Toronto and Montreal, Canada's biggest cities. Quebec runs 100% of its grid on hydro power and was the first province to institute a carbon tax. If you want ,ore information feel free to contact me. I am on the reservation list for an Aptera and hope to be one of the first Canadians to get one.
I would love to own an EV, however there are 2 primary things that deter me from doing so, both unfortunately come down to money. 1) Purchase price - I can pick up a second hand ICE Estate/SUV which meets my needs, for a fraction of the cost of a second hand EV, assuming you can find an estate version. Even if I could afford to buy new, I'd be unlikely to due to the amount of depreciation in the first few years. 2) Charging - I don't have a driveway, and there's no on street charging, forcing me to use public chargers which is an inconvenience and more costly than for those that do have the ability to charge at home. I believe there's 5% VAT on electricity consumed at home verse 20% VAT via a public charging point, effectively a tax on "poorer" households. In small towns across the UK are once again being left behind in favour of investments in cities. At this rate I'd be better off going back to travelling by horse, that'd be a greener alternative too!
A real logical problem is pricing of DC fast charging. When the cost per mile of DC fast charging is tied to the cost per mile of road tripping using gas hybrids will be the logical new car choice. Both evs and hybrids can charge at home for the 90%. Hybrids road trip without the wait and uncertainty of availability. Or even the need to learn how to charge more often within the high part of the charging curve for a new car buyer choosing a first ev. New car buyers keep a car 3-5 years in many cases. The complexity of hybrids is not a consideration for those buyers. If I was an oil company, I'd buy a charging network and keep prices level with gas.
@@ThanosSustainable In the US Tesla just raised the price 20% from 35 cents to 41 cents per kWh in my area. It'll be more for non Teslas when they get access. Gas is $3.50/gallon. This is parity. That means no cost benefit per mile for an ev over a hybrid like a Tiguan. But the Tiguan fills in 3 minutes instead of two 30-minute DC fast charging sessions in a long trip. New car buyers who keep a car 3-5 years will buy a hybrid over an ev.
@@ThanosSustainable It appears you're missing the thesis of my statement. Both pure evs and plug-in hybrids will charge the same at home. So why buy a new ev when you can have a less stressful road tripping experience using gas driving a hybrid? The only reason range is important, when you don't need it 95% of the time, is the same motivation new buyers will use to prefer a hybrid. DC charging prices could offset that if the per mile cost is less than it is for gas. Elon can affect this.
BBC Radio 4 You and Yours June 24th. Interview with someone from auto trader suggesting cost of repairing EVs is part of the reason car insurance is more expensive.
I believe the cost of insuring a EV will eventually drop because of how much safer they are to drive. Most important is zero pollution and little to no maintenance.
Hearts and minds is so important. I'd forget about the corporate media and focus on the influencers. Matt Watson recently slammed EV's that would have fueled the fire...pun intended. 🤷♂️ I have lots of ideas on this, but need some financial support. 💰💰💰
Why did the government stop coal fires ? Googled it This is because house coal burns less efficiently due to higher levels of impurities (sulphur and nitrogen). Think about smog, acid rain, discolouration to buildings in cities and industrial areas - these can all be attributed to the sulphur in coal.
Cheaper running cost will be the persuasion. Unfortunately not everyone can charge at home, and presently charging away from home is just too expensive. Solve that and there tipping point that cannot be argued.
Exactly! If I had to depend on public chargers I wouldn't have purchased my Ford lightning. I not only charge at home but often charge using my excess solar power to charge my truck.
Battery recycling is your achilles. Landfills are strewn with a wide variety of Li batteries waiting for the right conditions to create the next Bhopal. Note South Korea battery fire, 15 seconds and 2 breaths, and 22 are dead.
Future Australia. With 20million battery vehicles FREE nightly. And parked 23hrs every day. Long drive battery capacity is FREE to be fully UTILISED daily and NIGHTLY. Rooftop is dirt cheap with no grid costs. Rooftop is cheaper than windows $/m2. Rooftop can self supply. Rooftop can easily energise the entire grid. Auto manufacturers know this. Ford knows this. Tesla knows this. Grid owners know this. Fossil fuel knows this. Nuclear promoters know this. Technology developers know this. Politicians know this. Lithium miners know this. Battery manufacturers know this. We all should know this. I think Tony Abbott did Australia a favour by hanging onto fossil fuels, when he said technology evolution will be important to Australia and the world.
The information talked about here is fantastic, and from the bottom of my heart I thank all of you for putting in so much effort to get our air cleaner. I would love to have listened to this without all the “you know” because it is completely useless and serves only as a crutch. If you count all the times “you know” was said, I’ll bet that none of you would guess the number accurately and all of you would underestimate it spectacularly. The problem is that it’s so automatic, you don’t even realize you’re saying it. I’m sure I’m not the only autistic listener that gets severely annoyed by this.
More people will eventually realize that they can't produce their own gasoline at home but they can produce their own electricity at home via solar. I use my excess solar power to charge my EV. I believe more people that already have solar will be doing the same instead of selling their solar power back to the utility companies for pennies on the dollar.
The trouble with Reform UK, is most of the manifesto makes sense, apart from the Net Zero U-turn. And the rest of the other idiots change their minds when the wind blows.
Not sure I agree. Their sums simply don't add up. Last year the govt spent £20 million on net zero but Reform say they will save £30 billion (!) a year by ditching net zero. There's no doubt that a transition will cost but so will their plans to burn everything we have. An average fracking well uses 4 million gallons (18,184,368 litres) of (contaminated) water according to the American Petroleum Institute. That's quite a lot of extra water we'd need to be available. "A reduction in tax of £90 billion a year, while sizeable, would still see tax revenues higher as a share of the economy than in 2019-20. But in reality the package of tax cuts proposed would, if and when fully implemented, cost tens of billions of pounds a year more than that. For example, Reform UK plans to cut the rate of corporation tax from 25% to 20% immediately, and then to 15% in year 3 of the parliament. The manifesto costing of £18 billion a year over the course of the next parliament for all its business tax cuts is less than half of what official estimates suggest the long-run cost of just this cut in the corporation tax rate to 15% would be." IFS review of Reform tax plans. Changing the extent of interest to banks is interesting but Andrew Bailey (Bank of England) says this will put interest rates up. Good for savers bad for borrowers. They say they will "give away" £141bn (tax cuts etc.). They will save £50bn from govt expenditure out of the trillion we spend (£65bn if you include welfare reductions). However, £140bn of that is spent on pensions and they say they won't cut pensions. I can't see how they can deliver this. Sky have done a good analysis of their spending which is worth looking at. This all sounds like a plan set out by a party that knows it won't win. As Nigel Farage says, he wants to make this an immigration election and that way we won't have to look too closely at the unrealistic budget they put forward. That's my opinion anyway!
I have the standard myth busting convo with sceptical ICE fanatics all the time. But there is one point I make that always makes the penny drop and they just stop arguing for ICE, that’s when I explain that the average “fuel” cost is less than 3p per mile. (Actually it’s probably closer to 1.5p per mile for me when I charge from home… I have averaged 6p/kWh the past year using octopus agile and my car does 4miles/kWh) Public charger prices are a total rip off though 😢
I think the oil industry is a long way from being a sunshine industry we use oil for absolutely everything ..Although as a burning medium it needs to be ..
Most people are not falling for the political narrative, sadly the politicians are falling for it. I have noticed on FB that 2 years ago the volume voice was anti-EV, but today the volume voice is pro-EV. Any FB posts that are obvious nonsense get mostly taken apart. False information like this may get lots of clicks but it also generates discussion and education that does sway people..eventually. Of course people who have formed these wrong opinions don't like to admit it during an on-line debate, but they do later.
The system won't adopt it if it helps the poor, it will give grants to tesla buyers and impose tariffs on chinese EV buyers, it will tax solar equipment in general to subsidize individual instalations, any help is designed to concentrate wealth rather then spread it out.
I filled in your questionnaire recently and i have to say, I don't see the same negativity here in the Netherlands, even if the fossil fuel industry wins small battles, it is going to lose this war, this is a fight to the death... Theirs.
Does Wilders agree with you or is he too busy looking for places to hide money?
Here's a little story. I was in NL and mostly Amsterdam in October 2023 to view the Fully Charged Show event at the RAI. The Netherlands is awash with BEVs, especially in Amsterdam. Half the taxis are BEVs. I talked with the drivers, they adored their BEVs. They were so trouble free and cheap to run. One owner/driver with an elderly Tesla Model S said he'd had it from new and couldn't bear to part with it, although he would eventually get a Model Y. And btw, the public transport infrastructure is also excellent. So that was the Netherlands. I got back in the UK and the first taxi driver who picked me up asked where I'd been and I told him. Straight up, his next statement was, "I don't think they'll catch on, do you?" I was so dumb struck by the ignorance I just answered, "probably not." And that's what programming by propaganda does to a person, instead of first hand experience. That UK driver will lose £1000s upon £1000s before he wakes up.
Great pod cast. One thing that is missing is nothing on targetting the new generation of kids coming through the education system. Get into schools, get your story out to the kids. I talk to my 4.5yr old grand daughter about how charging my car works and I let her press the charge button on the app to demistify it and to my 15yr old grand daughter about how she should seek jobs in the new green industries. Convert the youth, the oldies (me) are too set in their ways.
I agree. My own kids don't want ICE and font have the memories of changing gear so don't miss it at all
@@EVRealFacts- you don't believe in educating kids?
@@parksmushof course he does - with disinformation & conspiracy theories 😢
the age of the voting population is shifting and in many countries over the next few years we will see the number of "young" people who are can't get a leg up outnumbering the "old" who like the status quo. They have little no loyalty and will vote with whomever benefits them and their future the most.
"New ideas don't succeed, they just wait for the old ideas - and their proponents - to die off"
Newspapers should have to print the redaction at the same size and on the same page as the original story. Thus, front page lies should be front page redactions. This would be fair and might actually reduce the lies.
It seems so obvious it's ludicrous that it isn't already an obligation.
It's the same with fining a company 10 million for unlawful behaviour that earned them benefits of 400 Million.
Our governments are a joke, they are pathetic.
Do they actually think they can solve our problems, by doing things that encourage them? Are they really that stupid?
:) never will, and most of the papers/media are full lies and twisting and manipulation... run by largely 1 group of people ? makes you wonder what they are upto ?
exactly right, otherwise the retraction is pointless
@@reubenwilkinson6493 and my comments to this thread were deleted because I noticed that a 1-5 % minority control that loverly media... and we can't talk about it. I only knew that it was deleted because I came back to reply to this, and saw the message gone... How youtube protects free speech :)
This was one of many recommendations in part 1 of the Leveson Enquiry which were never implemented. Part 2 was canceled. 😢
Had a walk yesterday like i do every day .Retired 75 years old.You can hear the cars going by the noise and the dirt coming out of the exhaust.It is an out dated technology it had its day and we have to move on.I live in the Eat riding of Yorkshire .UK.I am waiting for my first E.V this year better late than never.
*Waves to a fellow East riding resident* 👋😁
Power to you! 67 year old retired living in France here... got my EV in 2019, over 100,000 km of cheap, enjoyable trouble free driving, 80% of it powered by the solar panels on my roof. Enjoy your EV..😊
Judging by your inability to type a simple English sentence on a keyboard, you probably should not be driving at 1.5 Tonne car near other people at your age. Your abilities are clearly impaired and you are probably unaware of it.
Try not to get hit by the electric cars you DON'T hear coming.
@@stevenjones916 You know that EV's have had to make a noise, by law, in order to alleviate safety fears since July 2019 don't you?
The Daily Mail made the story up.
No surprise there then
Well, they never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
No. The potholes story wasn't made up at all.
There certainly was some spin to the story, without a doubt.
However, if in the years to come, there are only battery vehicles and we are still experiencing potholes then what's your excuse?
Do you see the flaw in your comment?
How about badly maintained roads as the reason.
@@keithwillis5662
😂😂😂😂
Yes, but how did the roads get damaged in the first place?
Rural/suburban roads aren't built to the same spec as major roads.
Granted HGVs take a toll but you don't see many in suburbia.
Heavy vehicles cause the problem and a fair few heavy vehicles are battery EVs.
As we transition to EVs then, to repeat, eventually the damage to roads will be caused by battery EVs.
Presuming battery EVs are still a thing and still around that is.
Almost all new cars are heavier than older models, EVs are also heavier than petrols on the whole like for like, but seeing as we have so few EVs on the road currently and we still have plenty of potholes I'm 100percent certain it's not the main issue. They are part of it yes but no more than many other cars. I would guess that underfunding of roads maintenance, and an increase of suvs and crossovers as well as all car weights is the main issue. I expect we will see EVs get lighter with time as charging availability is improved and there are more small cars with smaller batteries available.
You guys have voice, get politicians to incentify us to make EVs and their car batteries part of the home energy solution, so we can save money and put energy into the grid. Keep up the good work...
The gov doesn't want manufacturing in this country because making things especially batteries pumps a lot of pollutants out which contravenes their climate policy. Better off set our pollution to China and stay within target.
They have no influence on the government...yet...
When you can bung politicians a couple of hundred thousand quid or give them a "non-executive directorship" for life they'll listen to you 😢
Vote for candidates who can't be bought.
My Ford lightning truck has worked out great for me. I bought it to use locally. Maximum round trip maybe 240 miles. I never use public chargers other than to use the free 250 kwh I received with my lightning. At $.08/kwh in the winter and $.12/kwh in the summer I couldn't even achieve that kind of economy with my 2018 prius which I normally got 50+ mpg. Lately even better because I've been charging my truck using my excess solar power that used to go to waste.
[10:35] Renewable Energy related issues are being weaponised because the status quo in many organisations and in particular the oil and car industries has been challenged successfully. In the past when the oil industry could throw money at a newspaper or a politician and completely squash information that was detrimental to shareholders the renewable movement was seen as a minor threat. But the footfall of people marching towards renewable energy means they can't be complacent any more. They have to fight or die and they've decided to fight dirty.
People need to remember the one massive upside to Covid - less polluting vehicles on the roads and in the skies. It showed starkly how massive a difference it makes in a very short period of time. Cleaner air, quieter streets, less pollution, increased health, happier wildlife and on and on.
What will kill the ICE car is the coming death of re-fuelling stations, as Evs increase more cars are driving past fuel stations, and many will close.
except that EVs appeal to people who don't drive much anyway, not a big loss.
A very interesting conversation. I broadly agree with all the contributors here. There is a massive pushback from the vested interests in the fossil fuels industry, many people are being manipulated by this. When I got my EV in 2019, those around me thought I was brave and possibly a bit foolish. The sentiment has shifted to you’re making all the potholes, car parks will collapse, don’t park near my car because yours is going to burn with an unstoppable fire. Not everyone, but a significant few.
Interesting, but proof that the oil industry sponsored misinformation is getting into the heads of Joe Public....then again Boris got elected on 'Get Brexit Done' and the UK has been paying the price for that. In the Gullible versus Sceptics battles Gullible normally wins.
The cost of charging away from home is ridiculous 79 to 85p per kWh. I own a brilliant Zoe and always try to charge at a Tesla charger for at least half of that cost. Certain charging operators including Shell and BP are just extracting the urine.
BP, Shell and the like are trying to protect their core business and profit margin that's why they charge the same as buying fuel from their petrol stations. IMHO
They are I agree. However for most new EV drivers they will very rarely use a public charger. However you are correct they are taking the piss. It will change with competition.
I wouldn't have purchased my lightning if I had to depend on public chargers.
My Ford lightning truck has worked out great for me. I bought it to use locally. Maximum round trip maybe 240 miles. I never use public chargers other than to use the free 250 kwh I received with my lightning. At $.08/kwh in the winter and $.12/kwh in the summer I couldn't even achieve that kind of economy with my 2018 prius which I normally got 50+ mpg. Lately even better because I've been charging my truck using my excess solar power that used to go to waste.
its all about pricing the motorist off the road..15 min cities is their goal so its time we fought back against these anti freedom fascists
Agree totally. I have always boycotted both BP & Shell EV chargers, and any which are ‘supported’ or partnered with. As far as I am concerned they are the problem not the solution and any part I can play in their demise makes me happy.
First EV on order, can't wait to get it!!
Had my ev for 4 years and it's just a car. Just does the job.
Time to equate the argument to smoking in work places etc - the reasons can be the same - the right not to breathe fumes from someone else.
How about getting some pollution sensors along some high streets at different height levels to show people that kids at exhaust level are getting the worst of it.
starting to really dislike following other cars... very stinky.
This happening in the USA to a larger extent as we have fewer EV companies and EV models because of the tariffs that has been put in place towards China. All this tariff is doing is allowing the American auto makers to languish in their development of new EV technology
I think that these tariffs in the US will destroy the US automotive industry because they will simply get left behind as technologies advance.
Trade barriers help no national economy to thrive!
I agree we don't need tariffs.
The EV market is only 7% in the US, (down from 8% last year). Nobody made any money selling them and it costs the tax payer a fortune. I say let China have that entire market if they really want that albatross.- they can pay for the chargers too while their at it.
That’s not the reason for the tariffs , the Chinese communist party is subsidising Chinese car manufacturers to such an extent that European and American private companies cannot complete.
It’s unfair trading , the Americans could just stand by and let them kill off American companies and do nothing .
This podcast is a good example of lying , telling half the truth is still a lie .
Keep up the fight guys. Why not interview Dale Vince and get his perspective on the practicalities of increasing onshore wind and rebuilding the National Grid to deal with the future?
Had my EV 6 months now, & Love it, and I tell anyone who’ll listen… allll about it!😁
Good to hear and see my preferred term "BEV" being used more often. "EV" has been diluted and politicised, and includes the Hybrid vehicle in its various forms. For various reasons, these vehicles are not good PR for the movement.
PHEV gets me, its not a hybrid electric, its a hybrid petrol! PHPV
Great video yet again..I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again you need to talk to the Lee aka MacMaster where he constantly says that the cars are good but the infrastructure is really poor and the cost of charging in publicly which are know Quintin is banging on with the government about 5% & 20% vat this and I think this is where EV sales are dragging their feet..
Get the Macmaster on board… cheers all.. Chris..
After a slow start, it feels like Australia might "do a Bradbury" with EV's. With no car industry to protect, the Chinese companies are all coming here tariff free. We were ignored by VW who still haven't brought any EV's here. It's too late now, I have a Dolphin
I wish you would bring a show to Toronto Canada.. It would cost me about $250 to fly to Vancouver, almost as much as to fly to the UK.
I had what they called a "Clean Diesel" but knowing it was a lie, I swapped to an EV. Also I felt that due to the iincreasing fuel prices every year, I was not driving as many miles and really had to think about the trips I did. Having swapped to an EV , three and a half years ago, I now have the freedom to do as much as I want as the cost is much lower for my trips. To me it is far better in every way than an ICE vehicle and better for the environment and air we breathe.
This was a fantastic discussion and I certainly see that this EV transition may hit a few speed bumps but more and more people are buying them and more people are being seen enjoying them.
How much safer does Trump feel he would be when the diesel boat he is on sinks 10 yards away from sharks?
Thanks gentlemen for yet another excellent analysis. Quentin, enjoy your drive down to Bordeaux but I would recommend getting off the A10 at Poitiers and take the N10 toll free all the way down to Bordeaux. It's a much nicer run all on dual carriageway and takes you through the Cognac vineyards. You're welcome to pop in for a cuppa as we live 5 minutes from the N10 near Limalonges between Poitiers and Angouleme. 😊
Regarding UK manufacturing. The risk with making stuff in the UK is that it might eventually increase the strength of Unions. That is totally unacceptable to the Exploitative Class. It was only 35 years ago that everything was closed down to get rid of Unions and there is no way that a reverse will be accepted now.
The economics of distributing fuel by tankers will reach a tipping point as demand drops which will force up forecourt prices. This will tip the balance towards EVs at an ever faster rate once it's reached.
A delicious irony would be if fuel oil was distributed to forecourts by electric tankers, 😎😂
The LibDems are talking about cutting fuel duty because it's eye-wateringly high and they're running out of ways to relieve pressure on people who don't currently have a BEV. What they should all do is decouple the price of electricity from Gas costs and find ways to promote better charging infrastructure ahead of a surge in purchasing.
The Lid Dem idea of cutting fuel duty is to help those living out in the sticks where there is little or no public transport and people have to drive long distances to get to shops and public utilities. Decoupling the electricity price from hat from that of gas would be a better alternative.
The elephant in the room is that fuel duty raises a huge amount of money for the government. With widespread adoption of EVs that is going to disappear. It may have to be replaced by a mileage levy calculated from the distance covered in the previous year combined with information about the type of vehicle. The information is already collected at each MOT so it could be extended to cover the first three years when there is no MOT. It would mean that he cost per mile of EVs would be similar to those of ICEs.
@@rogerphelps9939 The levy should be based on car weight. A heavy car is less efficient, uses more material, typically bigger, causes more damage to the road.
In Hong Kong the latest Kona is selling for around £16k , as there is strong competition from the Chinese brands. I have a Kona with a 39kw battery that does 360km per charge. I charge once a week using a the granny charger that fully recharges the battery overnight. I get 8.5 km per kw on average, so it seems a smaller battery is ideal for my situation. Interestingly, a recent comment on fully charged by a guest who said that many owners of 300 mile plus range evs rarely do those distances. So, when choosing the battery size people often over estimate their real needs.
Hi guy’s, I’m planning to be at the South show and would be happy to talk about my EV/solar/heat pump experience. 🥂
Some excellent points. Maybe we should lobby across all political parties to ensure there’s an influential non partisan group of informed people to counter the rubbish and develop long term policies across parties.
I've had solar panels for 8 years, a home battery for 6 years, an electric vehicle for 5 years. All due to the fully charged shows. I've paid off the PVs (I got the last but one Feed in tariffs) and the battery cost already. My home is fully electric and I have a home charger for my EV. At present my electricity bill is £40 a month (with an octopus agile tariff) including all fuel costs. It's all from your channel and I'm incredibly grateful to you.
I would never go back to an ICE vehicle, my ev is easier to drive, cheaper to run and has a range of 250m
This is not political for me, it just makes sense all round. I'm female, not rich, I'm 75 and not particularly tech savvy and I'm still incredibly grateful to you all. Keep up the good work!!!
Come to Bristol & observe the utter desert of electrification that we have. Glacial would be a generous way of describing it. Virtually no on street charging. A few in shopping centres but the city as a whole, which is considered ‘green’ is laughable. I will not be able to move to EV as there is no infrastructure & low levels of off-street parking make ownership untenable.
Don't have an electric car myself but I occasionally drive one at work. It's only a corsa but it's amazing to drive and I always enjoy it. These days I only buy 2nd hand but my next car will be an EV, probably an ioniq, mg5 or a corsa.
Keep up the good fight!👏👏
I don't think the journos who write EV FUD care either way, they just write whatever gets clicks. Those who believe it want to believe it and its simply confirmation that they are correct in their ignorance.
Follow the money. We need to have candidates from all parties at these elections come clean on their current and previous affiliation with the fossil fuels industry.
Were they ever employed, advised or investors in the industry?
What's their undeclared interest?
Then we can see why they don't get behind the clean energy, clean air, low carbon transition we know we need
Angus Hanton's book 'Vassal State: How America Runs Britain' explains the reason that we are in the state that we are in.
I do not agree that ICE vehicles should be banned. I also think scraping ICE cars is not environmentally friendly & more should be put into conversions.
Yeah..... I hate it when I scrape my car........!
Definitely should be able to convert ICE vehicles to electric. The company that does this well will be rolling in the dough.
@@pstoneking3418 Not a very good idea. Successful EVs are designed as EVs from the ground up. Converting an ICE o EV is expensive and will probably be disappointing.
It's better to ship old ICE cars to the third world for cheap until they get their own infrastructure for bevs
@@jamesengland7461 Whatever
why does everyone miss the simplest point that the majority of people live in flats, and therefore cant charge overnight
They dont miss, they deliberately exclude such info, it simply dont look good for the WEF EV fraudsters
Agree. EV without home charging is very inconvenient...
I'm a long time EV owner and what I have seen is my friends and family wanting to buy second hand EVs now they have come down in price, but not going forward because they cannot charge at home. This is either due to no off road parking or garages not suitable or attached to their homes. When they have looked at the cost of charging at other facilities the cost has been comparable to petrol or diesel. Maybe an option to buy cheaper electric at charging stations would be a good step forward.
I’ve used a normal plug in charger for two years now, your car is parked for 14hrs every night so never had any issues with the rate of charge. Not having a dedicated charger shouldn’t be a blocker.
@@Bobthepragmatist If you can't park the car near your house, you can't plug the thing in, irrespective of the type of charger.
Electricity needs to be cheaper. It shouldn't be connected with gas prices.
Educate your friends and family regarding the concept of "Graze Charging".
Idea.
Depending on YOUR circumstances, Try running your EV for a month without plugging in at home.
Charge at your destination while doing what you went there to do.
That would be a convincing argument for those with an open mind.
(You may also find out who trusts your integrity?)
Net zero, green, climate blah blah blah who cares the mere fact that 70-80 percent of what i put in my gasoline tank is wasted pisses me off. ICE vehicles are obsolete just on that 1 fact.
That was the thing for me too - and the fact that world oil is controlled by some ….. interesting characters.
Very good points. 😊
Cool guys , let’s hope Labour make it easier to get electrical manufacturing back to the Uk
My Ford lightning truck has worked out great for me. I bought it to use locally. Maximum round trip maybe 240 miles. I never use public chargers other than to use the free 250 kwh I received with my lightning. At $.08/kwh in the winter and $.12/kwh in the summer I couldn't even achieve that kind of economy with my 2018 prius which I normally got 50+ mpg. Lately even better because I've been charging my truck using my excess solar power that used to go to waste.
Canada should have a federal election by October 2025!
Once.
We have a car about $25000.With With a very good battery guarantee It will be game over
We are so close! My BYD has an 8 year battery warranty. And you can buy one for about $39k Aus dollar.
@@jaalittle2814 I have an MG4 for about the same price UK pound (top spec) and prices are coming down and very fast, see the Citroen C3
The oil industry, politicians, Big 3 and dealers in the USA will forestall that day as long as they can. We are screwed if trump wins, and screwed if Biden wins. "Any way you look at it you lose", sang Simon & Garfunkel.
It’s called buying a used car. Battery warranties are eight years by law most places. In practice batteries last a lot longer. The beauty of buying a used electric car is that there’s less to break or fail, including batteries. Then there’s the cost of charging and the ease of driving them in heavy traffic. Seriously, just try one and see for yourself, rather than listening to the naysayers.
You have one now. Its called a used car 🙂
Who remembers top gear slagging off diesels in the early 90s, 15 years later, everyone was driving them
I agree, we have been asleep at the wheel.
I live next to whitelees wind farm just south of Glasgow and it’s enormous.
I also get people saying my heatpump doesn’t work (it very much does!) and that it was probably made in China. Yet it was made by Mitsubishi 26 miles away from my house.
Just to let you know that when I tried to use your template to my MP (Ed Milliband) it said the field was too long. I had to delete all but the first paragraph for it to go through. I’m guessing that a lot of people would just give up, so I think it’s worth looking into to ensure as many MPs as possible get the message.
Don't worry, haters gonna hate, trolls gonna troll. When tractors replaced livestock to take care of the fields, it was the same, there were people not wanting to adopt. But I'm the end they all did, they still missed the best parts of it...😂
In an odd sort of way those who were reluctant to stop using livestock to farm would have done a lot less harm to the environment than mechanised farming has done.
Would love to see the link of russian infuence and green misinformation.
Cable thefts could be deterred by wrapping the charge cables with kevlar.
Also a shelter over chargers would be nice for when it's raining cars and dogs.
The first time I tried an osprey and it rains the sort that soaks you through in a matter of seconds!!
I felt like that fat guy outta jurassic Park!
Would it be useful for the electric utility supplying Mar a Lago to do some work on the supply leading to needing to cut the supply for say a week whilst 45 is in residence.
Will anyone be able to buy a diesel car in 2029?
Already diesel make up just 7% of car registrations in the UK. Due to low and reducing diesel car sales companies have already reduced the number of diesel engine offerings. Won't be long until many models have no diesel version.
Amazing stories!
Over the last 20 years Oil and Gas in the UK has declined by about 1% year year. 2004 90% 2024 70% The line being used by O&G is that the UK will need fossil fuels for years to come. However if the Tony Seba S Curve is followed the straight line decline will perceivably begin to dip very soon. If we say that the UK base needs are 20% then it how the 50% disappears. On thing is for sure it will be far less than 50 years at the current rate. To understand how quickly this will be you have to aggregate the 4 key users Electricity Generation, Heating, Industrial Use and Transport.
America does not have a clean air problem? Los Angeles?
Change is confusing. Confusion conjures stress. Stress turns fear to anger. This process can span months or years, but it can also happen at the speed of thought, in our minds and manifest instantly as anger.
Someone who literaaly LIVES in an area of rapid change can find it difficulut condensing thousands of hours of learning into a 10 second "sound bite". It is our fate...
I really wish we could move on from the EV debate and talk more about infrastructure for green transport. Roadmap for blue and green hydrogen should really be the next milestone to aim for. Then the rest will fall into place.
Steeling copper from the chargers is getting bad also
Yes, recently Chesterfield lawn tennis clubs two Instavolt chargers were out of action for around two months. For that.
Also 12 Osprey not yet commissioned at Chezzy FC also decapitated.
A Chinese economist said, "the West has 1 day Democracy (Election day)", but many days make a meritocracy work (China's 30-year economic miracle) also: "The Chinese state guides capital and private entities towards what it believes are national strategic priorities, rather than allowing them to simply focus on generating greater revenue." Jack Ma founder of Alibaba & Ant Group thought he could prioritize profit; he was reminded that is not the Chinese way? President Xi Jinping was sent to work on a farm in a rural Chinese village in his youth to instill him with a sense of reality, he saw the importance of local ideas being able to percolate up to the top of the governing body to help all other villages in China.
Must be difficult to be Canadian, there must be big influence from the US, not seeing any Chinese EVs there. Be strong Canadia.
"you know I hate to ask, but are friends electric" - Tubeway army.
Yes.
Why would BYD want to build a factory in the UK, the UK is a small market.
There is another article about why Ev's aren't green every month meanwhile wind, solar and storage decrease in cost and increase by every other possible measurement steadily, the self interest and straight stupidity of those willing to believe it and unwilling to look into it for themselves with an easy google search blows my mind while I imagine where we could be now if we acted united towards electrification decades ago.
I see the biggest problem with Ev's is the charging infrastructure. Not enough working chargers and the charge per kwh is ridiculous. When there are chargers at most gas stations and the kwh charge comes down relative to home electric charges, the EV sales will escalate.
Gas stations can serve a dozen customers in 5 minutes, that's why they can afford to occupy prime locations on main streets, intersections and on/off ramps. The high traffic flow also makes a convenience store viable.
But you'd need a football field of chargers for that traffic with EVs, which is why they are located at the back of the parking lot behind Walmart..
@@jletts4354 Exactly- I don't have to get off my route and find a supermarket to spend half an hour or more. I just watch for the next big sign at the side of the road, and I'm on my way in minutes with 400 miles more range.
Whether you're travelling for pleasure or business or family, you just want to get to your destination. I don't need any extra delays and setbacks.
Solar Panels, Batteries and a 2nd hand EV have cost us £26k (spread over 7-10 years) which many people can't do. Not changing costs them £5k when they buy a 2nd hand ICE.
In the last 4 weeks I've seen an upsurge in Polestar EVs on the road. Whats behind this?
Polestar EVs are manufactured in China, so they will probably be transported by large specialized "roll-on roll-off" ships. Those hold something like 5000 cars. So each time one of these arrives in a port near you, you might notice a change on the roads.
"when the price of electricity comes down...". Do these people even think before talking?!
China built its industry with tariff protection. Tariffs work to localize production.
Someone recently pointed me to a very important fact: the largest car market globally is now China! And with 43% BEV market share in the first quarter 2024 the ICE market is shrinking very rapidly.
The other thing is that quite something countries are discovering now, that they are able to buy renewable electricity generators relatively cheap and it is a one-off payment compared to buying other fuels continuously, they start encouraging the use of BEVs.
So all these data points make me optimistic that "resistance is futile"!😉
But of course still remains to tackle all the issues still existing, with legal, the starting prices and the lack of smaller more efficient and reasonably priced EVs...
It's simple Quentin, They are facing the costs of actually doing the job AND losing all the money they have invested in the old systems of gas, petrol, diesel.
Hello, Is there a possibility for 2025 Everything Electric in Canada to come to the eastern side of the country where 2/3rds of the population is? A place like Ottawa would be be ideal as it's on the border with Quebec and Ontario, and is centrally located from Toronto and Montreal, Canada's biggest cities. Quebec runs 100% of its grid on hydro power and was the first province to institute a carbon tax. If you want ,ore information feel free to contact me. I am on the reservation list for an Aptera and hope to be one of the first Canadians to get one.
I would love to own an EV, however there are 2 primary things that deter me from doing so, both unfortunately come down to money. 1) Purchase price - I can pick up a second hand ICE Estate/SUV which meets my needs, for a fraction of the cost of a second hand EV, assuming you can find an estate version. Even if I could afford to buy new, I'd be unlikely to due to the amount of depreciation in the first few years. 2) Charging - I don't have a driveway, and there's no on street charging, forcing me to use public chargers which is an inconvenience and more costly than for those that do have the ability to charge at home. I believe there's 5% VAT on electricity consumed at home verse 20% VAT via a public charging point, effectively a tax on "poorer" households.
In small towns across the UK are once again being left behind in favour of investments in cities. At this rate I'd be better off going back to travelling by horse, that'd be a greener alternative too!
Thank you
Great video
Reform have rose-tinted views epitomised by Dave Capsticks masterpiece, longing for things from the past like, " rickets, diphtheria & Hitler".
Sorry, Tony Capstick.
A real logical problem is pricing of DC fast charging. When the cost per mile of DC fast charging is tied to the cost per mile of road tripping using gas hybrids will be the logical new car choice. Both evs and hybrids can charge at home for the 90%. Hybrids road trip without the wait and uncertainty of availability. Or even the need to learn how to charge more often within the high part of the charging curve for a new car buyer choosing a first ev. New car buyers keep a car 3-5 years in many cases. The complexity of hybrids is not a consideration for those buyers. If I was an oil company, I'd buy a charging network and keep prices level with gas.
Charging in Tesla Superchargers costs half or even less, compared to other charging networks. Others should try to reach Tesla in charging costs.
@@ThanosSustainable In the US Tesla just raised the price 20% from 35 cents to 41 cents per kWh in my area. It'll be more for non Teslas when they get access.
Gas is $3.50/gallon. This is parity. That means no cost benefit per mile for an ev over a hybrid like a Tiguan. But the Tiguan fills in 3 minutes instead of two 30-minute DC fast charging sessions in a long trip. New car buyers who keep a car 3-5 years will buy a hybrid over an ev.
@@eb1888. EV owners charge at home 95% of the time. Rapid charging is intended for road trips.
@@ThanosSustainable It appears you're missing the thesis of my statement. Both pure evs and plug-in hybrids will charge the same at home. So why buy a new ev when you can have a less stressful road tripping experience using gas driving a hybrid? The only reason range is important, when you don't need it 95% of the time, is the same motivation new buyers will use to prefer a hybrid. DC charging prices could offset that if the per mile cost is less than it is for gas. Elon can affect this.
@@eb1888. PHEVs are simply worse cars.
People will want EVs if we allow for more/cheaper electricity production.
Otherwise atm it doesn't make sense for 80-90% of people.
BBC Radio 4 You and Yours June 24th. Interview with someone from auto trader suggesting cost of repairing EVs is part of the reason car insurance is more expensive.
I believe the cost of insuring a EV will eventually drop because of how much safer they are to drive. Most important is zero pollution and little to no maintenance.
Hearts and minds is so important. I'd forget about the corporate media and focus on the influencers. Matt Watson recently slammed EV's that would have fueled the fire...pun intended. 🤷♂️
I have lots of ideas on this, but need some financial support. 💰💰💰
Why did the government stop coal fires ?
Googled it
This is because house coal burns less efficiently due to higher levels of impurities (sulphur and nitrogen). Think about smog, acid rain, discolouration to buildings in cities and industrial areas - these can all be attributed to the sulphur in coal.
Cheaper running cost will be the persuasion. Unfortunately not everyone can charge at home, and presently charging away from home is just too expensive. Solve that and there tipping point that cannot be argued.
Exactly! If I had to depend on public chargers I wouldn't have purchased my Ford lightning.
I not only charge at home but often charge using my excess solar power to charge my truck.
Battery recycling is your achilles. Landfills are strewn with a wide variety of Li batteries waiting for the right conditions to create the next Bhopal. Note South Korea battery fire, 15 seconds and 2 breaths, and 22 are dead.
Future Australia.
With 20million battery vehicles FREE nightly.
And parked 23hrs every day.
Long drive battery capacity is FREE to be fully UTILISED daily and NIGHTLY.
Rooftop is dirt cheap with no grid costs.
Rooftop is cheaper than windows $/m2.
Rooftop can self supply.
Rooftop can easily energise the entire grid.
Auto manufacturers know this.
Ford knows this.
Tesla knows this.
Grid owners know this.
Fossil fuel knows this.
Nuclear promoters know this.
Technology developers know this.
Politicians know this.
Lithium miners know this.
Battery manufacturers know this.
We all should know this.
I think Tony Abbott did Australia a favour by hanging onto fossil fuels, when he said technology evolution will be important to Australia and the world.
The information talked about here is fantastic, and from the bottom of my heart I thank all of you for putting in so much effort to get our air cleaner.
I would love to have listened to this without all the “you know” because it is completely useless and serves only as a crutch. If you count all the times “you know” was said, I’ll bet that none of you would guess the number accurately and all of you would underestimate it spectacularly. The problem is that it’s so automatic, you don’t even realize you’re saying it. I’m sure I’m not the only autistic listener that gets severely annoyed by this.
More people will eventually realize that they can't produce their own gasoline at home but they can produce their own electricity at home via solar. I use my excess solar power to charge my EV. I believe more people that already have solar will be doing the same instead of selling their solar power back to the utility companies for pennies on the dollar.
The trouble with Reform UK, is most of the manifesto makes sense, apart from the Net Zero U-turn. And the rest of the other idiots change their minds when the wind blows.
Populism always makes “sense” until you apply any scrutiny or try to implement it. The manifesto is a fantasy
Not sure I agree. Their sums simply don't add up. Last year the govt spent £20 million on net zero but Reform say they will save £30 billion (!) a year by ditching net zero. There's no doubt that a transition will cost but so will their plans to burn everything we have. An average fracking well uses 4 million gallons (18,184,368 litres) of (contaminated) water according to the American Petroleum Institute. That's quite a lot of extra water we'd need to be available.
"A reduction in tax of £90 billion a year, while sizeable, would still see tax revenues higher as a share of the economy than in 2019-20. But in reality the package of tax cuts proposed would, if and when fully implemented, cost tens of billions of pounds a year more than that. For example, Reform UK plans to cut the rate of corporation tax from 25% to 20% immediately, and then to 15% in year 3 of the parliament. The manifesto costing of £18 billion a year over the course of the next parliament for all its business tax cuts is less than half of what official estimates suggest the long-run cost of just this cut in the corporation tax rate to 15% would be." IFS review of Reform tax plans.
Changing the extent of interest to banks is interesting but Andrew Bailey (Bank of England) says this will put interest rates up. Good for savers bad for borrowers.
They say they will "give away" £141bn (tax cuts etc.). They will save £50bn from govt expenditure out of the trillion we spend (£65bn if you include welfare reductions). However, £140bn of that is spent on pensions and they say they won't cut pensions. I can't see how they can deliver this. Sky have done a good analysis of their spending which is worth looking at. This all sounds like a plan set out by a party that knows it won't win. As Nigel Farage says, he wants to make this an immigration election and that way we won't have to look too closely at the unrealistic budget they put forward.
That's my opinion anyway!
@@mstach1 Ignore Reform/UKIP MK 3. Farage and his fellow travellers have already done massive damage to the UK.
Is there a company in the uk that makes lithium phosphate batteries.
Let’s stop burning stuff.
I have the standard myth busting convo with sceptical ICE fanatics all the time. But there is one point I make that always makes the penny drop and they just stop arguing for ICE, that’s when I explain that the average “fuel” cost is less than 3p per mile.
(Actually it’s probably closer to 1.5p per mile for me when I charge from home… I have averaged 6p/kWh the past year using octopus agile and my car does 4miles/kWh)
Public charger prices are a total rip off though 😢
I think the oil industry is a long way from being a sunshine industry we use oil for absolutely everything ..Although as a burning medium it needs to be ..
Hmm, there was a thing about BMW & Audi drivers (well placed !!) :-)
Most people are not falling for the political narrative, sadly the politicians are falling for it. I have noticed on FB that 2 years ago the volume voice was anti-EV, but today the volume voice is pro-EV. Any FB posts that are obvious nonsense get mostly taken apart. False information like this may get lots of clicks but it also generates discussion and education that does sway people..eventually. Of course people who have formed these wrong opinions don't like to admit it during an on-line debate, but they do later.
Awaiting the FUD….
Established in 2020, South Korea-based Aricell makes lithium primary batteries for sensors and radio communication devices
I'm having a giggle so you aren't immune to sloppy journalism ,it's worldwide in every subject.
The system won't adopt it if it helps the poor, it will give grants to tesla buyers and impose tariffs on chinese EV buyers, it will tax solar equipment in general to subsidize individual instalations, any help is designed to concentrate wealth rather then spread it out.
Why "Tesla buyers"?
Don't UK Tesla's still come from China?
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Lose the bias.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Teslas are expensive, the poor can't afford them, it could be any luxury brand.
Really loved your EU-related political views, UK should try to steer the EU policy back to sanity. Oh, wait…
ICE cars are the last vestige of the old Industrial Revolution, EVs are the next step in the current Electronic Revolution.
TORONTO 2025!!!
So EU not doing good for EVs? Maybe better that we can now make our own rules? We could be like Norway in 10 years time...
do what the oil/ coal companies do advertise on television the positive benefits of clean alternative energy.