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I get dizziness , joint pain and nausea all the time. I’m ready to go to mars.
Lice as we know it will never be the same
Well, I guess if lice stay behind they may not change as much as we do 😉
Fungal growth inside habitats and greenhouses will be intense if not managed correctly.
LOL.
Life*
Its lice Jim but not as we know it
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Did you use a translator? This is pretty good English.
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I think the biggest concern will be.... Earth itself, once our fellow Martian Brothers & Sisters have a proper Settlement set up... how many generations before Native Martians decide they want nothing to do with or don't need Earth.
@aurawolf2221 2-3 centuries but what do you care for by then your dead as am I.
@@wildhellion1 fair point but... space has always fascinated me as has our place in it because as Captain Ed Mercer from The Orville said... I want to know what happens 🤷♂️
The real question is, how many generations until they have a "proper" settlement, that's 100% independent from Earth's resources?
@@sonicdoesfrontflips I actually watched a video (I forget who from) that said it could be done within 50 years.
@@sonicdoesfrontflipsnever.. it will always be 100% dependant on someone pay to supply everything. When the dollars disappear its goodbye "colony"
This is what the Expanse is all about great novel and tv series highly recommend
The Expanse is an awesome TV show.
The Expanse is definitely the most realistic look at our future I reckon!
"The thing about civilization is it keeps you civil. Get rid of one, you can't count on the other. People are tribal. The more settled things are, the bigger the tribes can be. Churn comes and the tribes get small again."
~Amos Burton, The Expanse, S5E4
@1:50 You can tether two *Starships* nose to nose set them rotating about a point halfway up the tether.
They can get from *Earth* to/from *Mars* under a rotational gravity which could go from *Earth* decresasing to *Mars* and/or from *Mars* increasing to *Earth.*
Or just make the carnival spin ride and sit in it . Weight training with bow flex type thing with tension not weights . Start with someone with denser bones as well like a martial artist who breaks concrete
@@jondoc7525 1G is kicking my a$$ at the moment.
Artificial grav threw centripetal force makes people sick, thats why we do t use it
Like heard Elon musk is guv8ng uo on earth and mars as his way to reboot human society, and dictate future human civilization
I wonder when vacations to mars will be available for less than 950 million dollars.
buy two starships and sell one on mars for twice the price
Obviously, you're joking. The actual price would be closer to 250 thousand dollars.
@@mikemccormick6128 Ya I’m joking, but I can go to the Bahamas for a couple thousand dollars, or I could go to a barren wasteland for 250 grand, I think ima wait for prices to mars to slightly lower while I’m chilling on the beach with my life savings still semi in tact.
@@replica1052 genius idea I’ll blow up all the other starships on mars and sell it for 5 times the price on earth, what are they gonna do send me back to earth, I’ve got the only way out.
@@SpaceCapybara732 (every mars garage will have orbital rockets )
Easy fix, increase the spin the transport ships with the destination gravity, use two or more on tethers. They will be ready to go by the time they get back from Mars.
yup
All Transports should include a Spin to acclimate the passenger to their destination (Moon, Mars or Earth).
Possibly multiple rings rotating at different speeds for those having troubles (such as born on Mars)
@@LG-qz8om What is a space station, but a space ship? Once it is in orbit you should be able to move almost anything to any place at almost any speed. So why not large ships with various rings with different gravities, perhaps it will accelerate genetic adaption to new physical paradigms.
@@LG-qz8om live on Mars, stay on Mars. Born n Mars, stay on Mars.
@@LG-qz8om We don't want n stinking Martans on earth. lol
So now my nightmares will be filled with Advanced AI Robot Martians coming back to Earth for a firmware (fleshware?) update. Sounds like a cool sci-fi movie or saturday morning cartoon.
If we want to become a spacefaring species, we need to start thinking about how we can augment our bodies and minds to survive in harsh environments.
Finally a genius. If you are one who appreciates genetics and wouldn't mind human augmentation then that's a plus. I think more people might have hope in humanity with others like you around. Simply a brilliant comment.
Genetic manipulation and cybernetics is very much needed for the development of manned space travel.The human body is too fragile for zero g and other planetary environments. Making genetic alterations to our DNA would help us adapt to Mars, Venus, and other worlds. In the future, space settlers would have genetic modifications to their DNA that makes them resistant to Cosmic radiation and have much stronger bones to withstand low Martian gravity. Once we unlock the true potential for human augmentation, it should make settling on other planets much easier.
I can appreciate what your saying, but knowing the nature of people, Black Projects, and the Military Industrial Complex, they're already doing it, or working on it. What you see, come into the free market, is the result of that research. Take prosthetics for example, what we see advertised, from our medical facilities, this is the civilian version, of that research. I can only imagine, the application's the military, and their civilian contract partners, have devised, and are continuing to refine. And if they were to combine that technology, with even current robotics, the possibilities are, intriguing to say the least. I see a future, where loss of a limb, on the battlefield, is only a temporary set back, to a combat soldier, in the field. We're on the cusp now, of regrowing organs, how long before we're regrowing, or replacing limbs, with artificial, or lab grown ones. I mean, we're only seeing, what the civilian market has achieved. And with our nature, we're always prone to dabble, with things best left alone. Are we seeing glimpses of our future, on alien battlefields, with Halo, or Space Marine type combatants? Or could it even happens right here, on Earth? Our curiosity, always tends to get the best of us..!
"The Space Between Us" is a good movie about a kid that is born and raised on Mars, and his struggles to acclimate to Earth.
Stars on Mars, too. Good tv show.
He failed if I recall.
To quote Total Recall..."Get your ass to Mars!"
No person would ever contemplate going to Mars using something as expensive as SLS ($4+B/launch). You can’t send enough humans or supplies to make a base viable if you’re spending $30+Billion to transport 6 humans & 60 tons of supplies with a return vehicle. It becomes much more practicable if you can send 48 humans, 500 tons of supplies & return vehicles for $240 million & produce fuel in Mars!
Colonizing Mars will never be financially feasible in any of our life time.
30 billion is nothing... U can always print money
Regarding AI, bear in mind that computer hardware we send into space is not cutting edge. It's decades old processors that have to be hardened to withstand the harsh radiation environment. It is impressive what has been accomplished despite this, such as flying an autonomous helicopter drone on Mars. But my point is that AI of the type that is flourishing here on Earth may be a long time coming on Mars.
You do a great job on your videos. Thank you!
I don't think that Mars and the other planets in our Solar System should be considered as "alien" since they came from the same dust cloud as Earth.
The nearest proper alien planet is located in our next door solar system, Proxima Centauri.
The question is not whether we would be able to get people to go to Mars as colonists. The question is why would they go and what sort of people would they be? If history gives us anything to go by, colonists on Mars would consist of:
1. A few wealthy individuals who control almost everything in the colony
2. An overwhelming majority who have fled to Mars in an attempt to get a better lot in life than is available to them on earth.
3. A handful of the “dregs of society”. People who are sent to Mars because it’s better to send them to Mars than to support them here on earth. For example, Australia started as a prison colony.
What the Mars colony turns into will be determined by how many of each group there are and how well the different groups can function together.
You've read too much sci-fi. The people going would not be poor and uneducated lmao are you drunk?
1. Wealthy people would not leave Earth, they would want everyone else to go. 2. Since anyone that would go is delusional and insane, the question becomes moot. 3. If the trip out did not accomplish the objective, these would quickly kill themselves off.
I reckon the number of wealthy people that go will be... very low. Mars isn't like any normal place on Earth, it's a barren wasteland. An empty slate to build something new. Most of the people that go will be number 2 and number 3. People who want a chance to start over and do something meaningful, and people who want to get away from Earth.
All of this has been talked about before, many times.
The plan should be done in multiple steps:
1. Send good AI bots to Mars.
a. Set up a base for human living by 3D printing from the local dirt into a large hard shell, and then inflate a well-protected room inside of it. The local dirt material would help protect the occupants from radiation and weather in addition to the protection from the inflatable itself.
b. Include an AI base for data and communications, while having AI bots searching the area for underground lava tubes and such. Perfect future habitation locations, as well as mapping.
c. Start AI building the base with ample supplies like food, oxygen, fuel, etc. This would require additional buildings of course.
2. Send people to colonize. They would need to expect the colonization to be permanent. They would also determine what is missing from the plans and request shipments for additional materials.
3. Set up future components like Mars orbiting satellites (better communications), better transport ships with artificial gravity (preferably something that doesn't need to land like the ISS with landing pods-small ships attached), and orbiting tanker structures for easier fueling.
4:34 Bit of a logical flaw there: if there’s nobody on Mars to give the AI up to date instructions, then there is nobody on Mars for the AI to harm.
Some sort of artificial gravity during transit to Mars would be required.
This is some really good writing-funny stuff. It had me chuckling throughout, because of insightful cleverness. 👍
the main problem, excitement also not guaranteed. zero g or low g is fun, for a day, interesting for a week, sometimes funny for a month, after that is is just the source of our 'fun' daily two hour exercise (and even if you like exercising, do you like doing the same single machine for an hour long, than switching different for an other hour?) during the travel, boredom will be probably the most dangerous thing. and even after you arrive to mars, how long until it will be routine, and only see all the limitations, starting with the food and drink.
Top of the hat to the script writer on this one! Great video!
Tip of the hat. Top of the hat sounds like whack-a-mole. (google it)
I feel like the AI that is going to end us is already in a server somewhere waiting for the hardware to reach a certain point then it takes over. The singularity is going to happen and we won't know until a few decades after
AI is a very very long way mate, not going to happen in our life time, whatever the hype.
AI still a baby
@@eliteglobal6090 AI doesn't exist yet. We are a long way off true AI. Will never happen in our lifetimes.
Thank you
you did good with this video, sir
Let’s ship Offaly, those on “Welfare” to start a new life on Mars so they can become the new upper class/income earners.
A virtual environment could be a good test site.
AI will need to get more sophisticated but AI does not have consiousness. They are autonomous within a narrow set of parameters based only on vast quantities of input data. One place where AI would be critical is in diagnosis and probably surgery on site. As for the trauma of changing gravity, the effect is going from low to high, not high to low. In my hard sci-fi novels, the solution are 'resistance suits' made up of soft robotic muscles which counter our own. The idea is to provide resistance for most of our movements like having a constant workout. Set the suits for Earth's 1g. In space, much more needs to be done to use centrifugal gravity rather than exposing people to a year or more of microgravity.
I dont think it would be that much of an issue during transit though, since if humans ever do actually go to mars, it would be through stuff like Nuclear Thermal Rockets.
Rockets that would be acccelerating/decelerating constantly to the point artificial gravity prolly wouldnt even be necessary honestly.
I think were set to go to mars in 2035 lowkey. Almost entirely cus i feel like we might get to the point where AI would have as reliable of a context to work with, as a video game NPC would.
going into this video i was literally thinking of blade runner, glad it was actually mentioned!
0:37 “what a mars colony means for eath”
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Maybe it would be better to send older (but healthy) people to Mars initially to build the colony with the provision that there would be no return. This along with a constant stream of supplies being sent.
Why do that when we actually have the ability to bring them back?
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@@user-hx5qv4kd6 Yeah. China is also building robots, Fourier GR1. Tesla and Fourier seems to be taking robots more serious. I don't see Tesla bots working in US society that much, but maybe on Mars.
Why tho? What's the logic here?
You do fine work. I appreciate your efforts. I am sorry but I was only 5th this time. I did notice that by being among the first to view your creation there are no comments to read. I did ask Alexa if she was going to take over the world and she said " I don't want to take over the world, I just want to help you" However this too was created by jeffie and we all know how well his stuff is going.
Buzz still going strong with this experience on the moon... Yup.
Great video - keep it up! Concise and to the point! A+++
My second time watching this video. I enjoyed it so much. It seems to be very open minded and forward thinking, yet STILL DOWN TO EARTH 😃 I liked some of the honesty in it, and the bit of almost a story. Many people might consider this as a story about future outcomes of the human race. A story within a documentary and a documentary within a story. Food for thought.
😅 I died with the Buzz Aldrin part 💀
Here's an interesting thing to think about after we get production to be able to make the robots on Mars we could send the older models to Titan to start building habitats they could be the habitat Builders
10:33 Very funny you have "Blade Runner (1982)" and "Blade Runner (2049)".
That second one should have been "Blade Runner 2049 (2017)" 😁
I was thinking maybe it’d be possible to build a sort of megastation that orbits Mars, and from there it’d be less of a delay from the signals, and we’d be able to moniter/control the bots used. Just a thought idk
We will certainly need that but the main thing causing delay is the distance between the planets
Surface EVAs would be best done in the early morning and late afternoon (most atmo between you and the solar flux), or at night, if your suit is sufficiently heated. Doesn't do anything for Galactic Space Radiation (GSR), but it beats the Moon, where there's nothing to protect you, anywhere.
Bots could do the broad daylight surface work.
Maybe the martian clothing can just be made a hell of a lot heavier, from material they can grow or make with renewables.
I think we should have world peace and instead of fighting we put all are energy into putting people into space .
IMO the future of space colonization is like Mobile Suit Gundam.. with large space stations that generate their own gravity littered around the Earth and the Moon
If we use the second rate flying sausers from Area 51, they would give us gravity for our human stamina. They also offer gravity f o r our human stamina.
E.M. is a supervillain in disguise...
Communications can be speeded up with a transceiver/relay station halfway between Mars and the Earth. That’s an easy fix.
For now EM can only 'promise' no more than "excitement is guaranteed" 😁, so you are on your own if you do it.
0:35 "What a mars colony means for Eath" 👍🏻
to wake up every morning in a two-planet-world full of purpose
0:31 Lice as we know it will never be the same
Adjustments of commodities market
Why not build the first colony underground, with enough dirt overhead to protect against radiation?
The issue is actually digging the holes. The other option is to use the plastic in zip-lock bags (no joke) or water as the protection. With a lead lined "bunker" for the big radiation events.
What are your thoughts on the potential effects of establishing a Mars colony on Earth? How do you envision this interplanetary endeavor influencing life on our home planet?
A retired programmer, for 45 years, we used to say, "pull the plug!" On Mars, I'd get cabin fever after the novelty wears off.
Weight training on Mars would be an essential part of life. That way when people return to Earth, their muscles and skeletal structures will function properly.
I wonder whether colonizing Mars will be better than building space habitats with gravitational generators.
The person would spend 1/3 of the day in an artificial gravity environment, how could you miss that??
(life as center of the universe - to surrect planets is how to live in a universe )
- multiple rockets in formation shield each other and help be seconds away no matter what problem
- a 9m loop gives you all the g-forces you need for as long as you want
- the surrection of mars should give humanity infinite economy as all of earth is to export to mars and everything from mars will be valuable
- earth visits be mandatory for all martian born and they will alawys be the most interesting persons in the room
(to master a solar system as identity is a talent to explore )
in an infinite universe it makes sense to catch solar wind - pull cables from pole to pole slightly offset for the dynamo effect
(to collect asteroids before they vanish into the sun is a mission )
why would anything from mars be valuable? will the martian iron be ten times stronger? will the martian spaceslug poop give us psionic abilities? if not, who cares, yes, the first few kg of martian dust will be stupidly valuable, the second ton? who cares.
@@thorin1045 may i offer you a glass of sake destillied on mars
You’re wrong on the length of the loop - humans tend to get motion sick at rates above 2 RPM, so you’ll need a 450 m tether to “spin up to earth gravity”.
@@replica1052 nope, will drink several barrel of sake distilled in the pussies of goddesses for the same price as your single glass of shit. just because it is pricey, does not mean it has a market. the people who can pay 10-100 million for a single seat on space tourist flight already dwindling, and when gone, it will not be replaced in any meaningful time.
Which crew is this
Does anyone know what "Eath" might be?
Of course all of this is assuming nasa won't fold under safety concerns and require a gravity ring for trips
"Just blast off, sure shot
'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars
And now he only eats guitars, get up" - Blondie
To actually do what they claim they want to do people in numbers will probably live underground for a long time, the pictures look the great, the reality to get that not so much. I still truly think mastering living on the moon is the way to go as far as becoming a multi-planetary species. However, I very much appreciate the existence of Mr. Musk, words don't begin to cover it, we are extremely lucky to have him.
Unlike space, mars has some gravity . Wouldnt they be able to wear weighted clothing to counter the effects of low gravity?
We need large long term space station between earth and Mars. Direct Control on Mars could be the space station instead of earth as earth is too far ( earth + station+mars ). Earth can't send the help the station can give. Space station would have to be large. Plus station could move allowing travel between earth and Mars year round.
society needs to comprehend and accept one way missions. this will be thee best way of creating a colony
Given the climate of the people of the world this won’t be such a bad idea.
I'm 68 but I would love to go. When do we leave?
I was watching a Bruce Willis 🎞️movie called Surrogates 🤖. The basic premise was the human 👧🏻was kept safe whilst a robot body🚷 took all the risks
im down to go to mars and dip from earth
hi
It means we’ll be closer to those asteroids, that’s the big reason.
On an outer space adventure, they got hit by cosmic rays...
Misspelling at 0:36 EATH.
Woow
"Eath"? I'm betting that's a typo. 0:35
9:00 I swear if I get my atom formers invented, we can build a colony in a month and little to no cost by atomising fabricating printers, even, I can use my company to sponsor all exoplanet colonies, and improve earth terraform ,moon,Venus ,mars etc, also my only condition in return: I too get to have stations abd colonies 9n the moon Venus and mars,ceres,Jupiter,Saturn,etc
Well...If we go to mars we don't have to be afraid to be eaten by Bears. 😂
We need a gravity chamber like in DBZ
And so began the International Free Mars Bar Day...
Earth should have no say on the realestate on Mars or the moon even (once a certain number of permanent inhabitants exist).
Recovery on the Moon, maybe??
Phillip Dick wrote Blade Runner not Ridley Scott.
If I’m in my teen years right now then I’m in my 30s we might actually be able to colonize Mars
Landing on Mars possible arround 2050!😊
I still think its crazy to extrapolate from the past colonization of America to the future colonization of mars. America may have been uncharted, but it was habitable. Everything about the martian environment is hostile. I still think the future is space stations in earth orbit or even in mars orbit, but people won't live on the surface, simply staying alive would be too expensive.
The correct analogue is to colonizing Antarctica or the sea ice of the North Pole, even though those are still a stretch. Quite literally zero profitable reason to go to either location except for purely scientific reasons, and nearly every aspect of being present there is utterly hostile to homo sapiens. Mars and the moon are just that dialed up to 11.
Now people think Earth is a cube.
I want to go to Mars
We will send Robots to work & prepare everything we need in Space, from Moon, Mars, Comets & Asteriod mining. Let's just hope they don't become sentient before we get there, or we could have an issue or two.
yes yes yes
Lices will not be happy ... imagine how these would feel ar we gone take them along ?
Which animals go ?
Hardly anybody talks about basing all AI on Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics. He foresaw the threat of renegade robotics more than half a century ago, and planned these laws as a safety feature.
All computers to my knowledge have a PROM, of Programmable Read-Only Memory; once set, the programming cannot be changed. Laws could be passed requiring the Three Laws to be programmed into the PROM. Every hardware unit could be marked certified to have the Three Laws; any lacking this certification would be treated like unregistered firearms.
(A possible downside to all this is that comparing every command a robot receives against the Three Laws template could slow down processing time; it would be like running every civil law or regulation no matter how trivial through the U.S. Supreme Court to see if it's Constitutional. There would have to be ways to streamline that procedure without compromising it.)
The only way we will colonise space effectively is through rotating space stations that create 1G artificially through rotation.
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Travelling in space without some form of gravity would require wearing some form of exoskeleton to prevent deteriation of bone and muscle.
Right, because bone and muscle are the important long-term considerations and not just short-term and immediate considerations that we already have demonstrable solutions for, and totally not your cardiovascular, vasculature, neurological, immunological systems and your sheer DNA itself.
The earth is the cradle, Mars is the starting point of universe exploration. The gravity of our earth makes everything hard.🤣
AI is neither good nor bad. It really depends what information you feed it.
If you feed it good information it will be good.
If you feed it bad information it will be bad.
Buzz is worth his weight in moon rocks.
and umbrella from moon buggy
This video raises one of the biggest unanswered topics - how to create gravity on Mars and other celestial bodies, this will be vital for human heath and staying adapted to Earth gravity for long duration missions and more.
if anyone knows anything on this then please respond, weighted suits do not solve the problem (heads up).
i thought of an idea myself to have a 'underground train system loop' whereby a train is in a circular tunnel and banks towards the inside of the circle when running. No doubt this idea would be achieved long after the first people arrive on Mars
it would be interesting if Mars is hard focus on for heavy mining with no one actually living on mars anymore. Instead workers, researchers, etc, live on stations in orbit around Mars, close enough so the lag time for remote control is insignificant allowing for mining operations to be monitored. If need be, people can land on the surface to perform various maintenance like a diving would perform maintenance under the sea. I imagine these jobs would only be undertaking for periods at a time or only for so long like Hyperbaric Welders. Perhaps a solution for creating artificial gravity on a space station will be found. I’ve seen plenty of proposals online about how it could theoretically be done. If that’s cracked, it really opens the doors to how efficiently we can explore the stars
The Make-Break Point is 1) self-sufficiency then 2) economic exchange.
There will certainly be something valuable u there that is less available here. It could be minerals or wven if they planted non-GMO crops on Mars.
And also access to ample minimg of asteroids -- whichay turn put to become the real economic game changer and prosperity.
*rightfully pissed off natives* lol i mean thats not wrong obviously, and the way its said so casually is just funny to me
Lets get the trains to work first. HS2 just one example.
A long term goal would also have to be setting up a spinning habitat on Mars where the inhabitants would spend most of their time in full Earth-g or as close as you could make it before they started throwing up. The only time they would spend in Mars-g would be in the rare times they actually needed to step outside.
obviously