I put a lot of effort and time into making these videos, I would appreciate if you leave a Like and a Comment. Thank you so much! 😉 See also other Massive Battles: 👉🏻 th-cam.com/play/PLWCqtiurTeFoc8VZxq6B1zRHD66s4hD2H.html If there is any battle, historical or fictitious, that you want to see recreated in Age of Empires, let me know in the comments.
@@shinobiace6484 Yes, I had put it aside thinking that I couldn't do it well with AoE 2 units, but thanks to the discovery of the Rome ad Bellum mod I can do Ancient battles without problem. Thank you Shinobiace.
Its insane to me that they raised such massive armies such a long time ago. I can't imagine being able to gather 200,000 people in one place in the Bronze Age.
Amazing work! I especially liked how you were able to show the rotation of the different Greek units in and out of battle, that was cool. That's got to be a very difficult battle to try and simulate, because space is so limited for showing any kind of maneuvers whatsoever. Nicely done!
Excellent choice of subject matter! I thought I knew the whole Thermopylae story through and through but I never knew about the broken wall they repaired before now. Also great use of the Rome at War models. Continuing to love what you're doing with the series my man!
Hey long time no video I was waiting for a long time you know your videos are awesome and great each video is greatly different and more detail and more cutscenes everything I great bro next time I want to see siege of Jerusalem by saladin
Very nice fight battle……nice explanation of the battle going !!! You can make more of greco-Persians wars and hellenistic period alexander great army battles vs Persians or even vs Indian kingdoms
Thank you so much. Yes, with the Rome ad Bellum mod I can recreate many ancient battles such as those that occurred during the Medic and Punic Wars, Alexander the Great, etc. My idea is to do many battles of that time because it is a period of history that I love.
@@historyforgamers oh. I thought it's AOE1 based on the alarm sound and the walls. Haven't played any DE of either, so i thought it's AOE1DE. Anyways thanks for the mod. I'm planning on getting the AOE1 and 2 DE for myself. Been a long while since I've played those gems (specially AOE1)
Thermopylae , poem by Constantine Cavafy Honor to those who in the life they lead define and guard a Thermopylae. Never betraying what is right, consistent and just in all they do but showing pity also, and compassion; generous when they are rich, and when they are poor, still generous in small ways, still helping as much as they can; always speaking the truth, yet without hating those who lie. And even more honor is due to them when they foresee (as many do foresee) that in the end Ephialtis will make his appearance, that the Medes will break through after all.
@@historyforgamers cool, but you are aware the Spartans and Greeks used the phalanx right? and also that it never broke until the Persians flanked them on that goat path?
@@brettglover135 Yes, but the AoE has its limitations and putting the phalanx in static mode meant that the enemy units that did not attack the Greeks could go around them. It was a bit strange.
I was looking forward to playing the Battle of Thermopylae depicted in the DLC. I quite liked it as a playable scenario but it could be improved for a reconstruction. At some point I'd like to make a new video with all those new graphics, it could turn out really well.
This is an interesting approach to telling history. I enjoyed it, and I imagine you're still refining this series, so I have a little constructive criticism: I think it would help a lot if you ordered the units to stand ground, since watching hoplites break formation to rush at Persian infantry is a little immersion-breaking and doesn't make much sense since it nullified their actual tactical advantage. A little more narration during battles, with some background information about the hoplites, the Peloponnesian War, more quotes from the participants, etc., would be nice too, so we don't just hear Persian death screams x1000. On that note, I might also lower the game/replay speed a little since everything is happening incredibly fast, and the noise and motion is a little overwhelming. I would probably boost the health of the Persian infantry, too, since even though they were far less effective and well-trained than the hoplites, they wouldn't have been that bad, and no one in their right mind would continue to throw themselves into battle after watching their brigade take 90 percent casualties - they would probably rotate out, or fall back and attack again in waves. I would have liked to see more uncertainty and frustration in their ranks, like individual soldiers saying "screw this" and peeling off the attack. This sort of thing would be hard to get right, so I don't know if you do this alone or work with a second player, but it seems to me like having two "opponents" communicating together off camera would make this work fluidly. That being said, I subscribed, and I think this format could be a lot of fun to watch for famous battles like the Siege of Troy, the Battle of Megiddo, Yarmouk, etc.
Thank you very much for your extensive comment and such good suggestions Michael. You are right about the movement of the hoplites, but trying to put them in "hold position" they let the Persian units pass to the side without attacking them and it was quite strange. I guess more micromanagement would be ideal but it's hard to do it myself using 2 computers at the same time, which is how I do it. Anyway, I keep polishing and improving the videos and, over time, I'll probably redo some. I'm writing down the battles you've mentioned. Thanks again!
Xerxes was lost large amount of his elite warrior named as immortals in battle of Thermmopylae passage. As a result Xerxes has commanded retreat them for not due to increase casualties.
First of all I would like to thank you for considering my suggestion and dedicate some time and effort for it, I really appreciate that Second Don't take this as a suggestion for a video it's just an idea and I think it will work with you why don't you make the real life battles that happened in the AoE2 campaign or scenarios In this way when somebody is searching for the campaign/scenario he will find your among the people but not as a gameplay video rather as a fun twist (for the outsider) You don't have to do the whole campaign for sure because that will be much more than an experiment but you can do the famous ones I admit part of that is inspired by "Spirit Of The Law Campaign Vs History" in which when I watch I wonder how the battles really happened (i.e John of Arc: The Siege of Paris) (i.e Saladin: The Lion And The Demon) I think you already thought about that but I said to let you know if you didn't
Yes, I should focus on making the battles more famous, even though they have already appeared in the game's official campaigns and that way I could reach a larger audience. That's what I'm going to do from this video. Honestly, I didn't know Spirit of the Law had these kinds of videos. When I have an idea and I start with it, I don't usually like to see that someone has already done it, I prefer to think that I am the first and that motivates me. But come on, almost everything is invented on TH-cam so what I do is fool myself to stay motivated 😅. Thank you very much for your suggestion and for watching the video.
Thank you very much Antonio, but it is Age of Empires 2 with the "Rome ad Bellum" mod that modifies units and buildings to be like those of the first Aoe.
Now we just need a campaign where xerxes was defeated. Cobra cars and all cheat units allowed from aoe1 and 2. But the population caps must be maintained. IE Persian army with many sub/ally civs is ten times bigger than the Greeks.
Wasn't it easier to simply block the whole narrow pass with a wall and put archers on top protected by shileds of Hoplites ? Why toe to toe combat when you can take full advantage of a narrow path ?
the Greeks had a cultural belief at the time that ranged warfare was for cowards, the Greeks had some ranged skirmishers but not very many; it's just not how they typically fought. It might seem foolish but ancient peoples didn't see the world in the same way modern people often do. If they just hid behind the wall the Persians would climb over it and fight them on the other side at some point anyway, a line of Lacedaemonian shields was about as good as any wall. The Greeks were making good use of the choke point until the Persians went through the goat herders pass, also keep in mind this was a mountainous area by the sea, it wasn't easy to build things there especially when a massive invading army is arriving soon and you've only marched up there with your war gear and some food.
There was a simple statement which reflected the Spartan war code for each soldier: “either come home with your shield or on it” in essence part of the Spartan law. No retreat. No surrender. No cowards.
@@historyforgamers even without the enhancement, the legendary in AOE1 is so imbalanced they can 2 hit kill most of the units from previous ages, while taking 1 damage from most of the hits
According to Herodotus and Diodorus Siculus, the Greek army included the following forces: HERODOTUS NUMBERS Lacedaemonians Perioeci 900 Spartan hoplites 300 Mantineans 500 Tegeans 500 Arcadian Orchomenos 120 Other Arcadians 1,000 Corinthians 400 Phlians 200 Mycenaeans 80 Total Peloponnesians 3,100 or 4,000 Thespians 700 Thebans 400 Phocians 1,000 Opuntian Locrians 1,000 TOTAL: 5,200 plus the Opuntian Locrians 7,400 ----------------------------- DIODURUS SICULUS Numbers Lacedaemonians Perioeci 700 or 1000 Spartan hoplites 300 Other Peloponnesians sent with Leonidas) 3000 Total Peloponnesians 3,100 or 4,000 Malians 1,000 Thebans 400 Phocians 1,000 Opuntian Locrians 1,000 TOTAL: 6,100 plus the Opuntian Locrians 7,700
Nice video~ It does drag a little bit in parts, but not that big of a deal. I am rather interested in the half myth, half accurate version of the tale. Of course in reality, Sparta didn't want to help the rest of the Greeks and Leonidas went purely as an advisor with his bodyguard of 300. He and his men didn't really engage in much personal fighting until they were outflanked and killed. Spartan propaganda at home spun the story as a legend of sacrifice and heroism.. in reality, the scared Spartans were just caught with their pants down
Yes, this form of punishment was supposedly created in Assyria around the 6th century B.C. The practice was imitated by great Mediterranean powers, such as Alexander the Great, who imported it some 200 years after its appearance in the Near East.
How is this Age of Empires 2? This is clearly Age of Empires (1) definitive edition. Unless the Return to Rome DLC actually imported the old AoE1 walls and sound effects..
Ancient melee combat was not destructive and rarely, if ever, produced meaningful casualties on other side. High casualties start when one side panics, turns around to run, and gets killed from the pursuers from behind. This did not happen at Thermopylae. Instead, the combat was very low intensity between at most 100 Persians and Greeks who could realistically try to attack each other at a time, producing very low casualties. What we know from ancient battles was most soldiers just stood in place, shouted at the enemy, and cared more about not getting hit than actually fighting the enemy. The Persians overall had more men than the Greeks at Thermopylae, but most simply didn't fight. I assert the majority never even knew a battle was happening. The marching troops in the back would have just been told it was another break and rest in the campaign like any other. Finally, when the Persians got around and the Greek lines broke, they would have been the ones to cause mass casualties.
I certainly agree that only a small part of the great Persian army saw action at Thermopylae. Surely, the magnitude of the casualties of Xerxes was not as high as is believed, we already know that History, especially the ancient one, tends to be very benevolent with the side where the data comes from, in this case the greeks.
The most moderate historians put the Persian numbers to 45-50k not including several thousands of greeks who were assisting the Persians like thebans , argians etc. The greek numbere were at the most 7-11k. So it's still a big difference and that's taking into account the most moderate estimations . Yes Herodotus numbers are overblown but your assertion is completely fictional including your claim that ancient battles were not that bloody which might fit the criteria in the case of Thermopylae but it's a completely irrational argument to make if you actually have knowledge of ancient wars and battles not just in Europe but also in the east mongol - chinese - japanese wars etc
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How about fall of constantinople
@@talha7309 It will almost certainly be one of the next five battles I do. Thank you so much talha.
And you can make it twice. First for the crusaders second for the ottomans
great content😘, have you thought about the battle of Teutoburg forest😍
@@shinobiace6484 Yes, I had put it aside thinking that I couldn't do it well with AoE 2 units, but thanks to the discovery of the Rome ad Bellum mod I can do Ancient battles without problem. Thank you Shinobiace.
Its insane to me that they raised such massive armies such a long time ago. I can't imagine being able to gather 200,000 people in one place in the Bronze Age.
Amazing way to tell us the history, isn't it?
Only that this has nothing to do with what actually happened. This is literally just the movie "300".
this is just the movie lmao
@@TheJollyKraut Bro its was totally real af
@@RSguideX Woah, bro. Real af, bro. Like totally.
Amazing work! I especially liked how you were able to show the rotation of the different Greek units in and out of battle, that was cool. That's got to be a very difficult battle to try and simulate, because space is so limited for showing any kind of maneuvers whatsoever. Nicely done!
The truth is that it has been one of the battles that has cost me the most, due to the map, triggers and little space. I'm glad you liked it.
@@historyforgamers Thank you very much
0:07 So cool to have Xerxes himself as the narrator.
That damn narrator 😅.
Yeah, there's a difference between reading and understanding a text
Leonidas was just way more skilled in micro than Xerxes
Micro vc Macro the legendary quarrel
11
Leonidas AHK cheater confirmed?
xerxes should've trained more monks 😂
Leonidas was a lame camper
Excellent choice of subject matter! I thought I knew the whole Thermopylae story through and through but I never knew about the broken wall they repaired before now.
Also great use of the Rome at War models. Continuing to love what you're doing with the series my man!
Thank you very much for your words Robby, it is an honor for me to see that you enjoy the videos.
I love AOE2 and military history. Just discovered this channel today, got yourself a new subscriber here! Awesome videos!!!!
Thank you very much for the comment and subscription. You're welcome!
Total war is great and all that
But there's something special about age of empires 2 being used as simulator
What an innovative way to show us history
Good job sir
Thank you very much Debjata for your kind words.
In age 2 terms this battle was elite teutonic knights vs kharambit and some huskarls
2:18 Xerxes: _We need more Torsion Engines..._
this a callback to early youtube, I'd always watch age of empires 1 recreations of 300
Xerxes: "where's the mangonel when i need them..."
Hey long time no video I was waiting for a long time you know your videos are awesome and great each video is greatly different and more detail and more cutscenes everything I great bro next time I want to see siege of Jerusalem by saladin
Thank you very much Alhan, I have not forgotten your request and I assure you that it will not take too long.
Very nice fight battle……nice explanation of the battle going !!! You can make more of greco-Persians wars and hellenistic period alexander great army battles vs Persians or even vs Indian kingdoms
Thank you so much. Yes, with the Rome ad Bellum mod I can recreate many ancient battles such as those that occurred during the Medic and Punic Wars, Alexander the Great, etc. My idea is to do many battles of that time because it is a period of history that I love.
This was very nicely done! Any chance you might do the battle of Plataea?
Yes, I will do the battle of Plataea for sure. Thank you very much Vorlon!
keep it up bro
good work!
i love history and i love games! what a channel!
thanks!
Thank you very much for the comment and for enjoying my videos.
This is the prime example that history isn't boring, the way it's taught is. Awesome work. But isn't this Age of Empires 1?
No, it's Age of Empires 2 with the Romae ad Bellum mod (www.moddb.com/mods/romae-ad-bellum). Thanks!
@@historyforgamers oh. I thought it's AOE1 based on the alarm sound and the walls. Haven't played any DE of either, so i thought it's AOE1DE. Anyways thanks for the mod. I'm planning on getting the AOE1 and 2 DE for myself. Been a long while since I've played those gems (specially AOE1)
This is sick.
Thermopylae , poem by Constantine Cavafy
Honor to those who in the life they lead
define and guard a Thermopylae.
Never betraying what is right,
consistent and just in all they do
but showing pity also, and compassion;
generous when they are rich, and when they are poor,
still generous in small ways,
still helping as much as they can;
always speaking the truth,
yet without hating those who lie.
And even more honor is due to them
when they foresee (as many do foresee)
that in the end Ephialtis will make his appearance,
that the Medes will break through after all.
U've got to recreate this now that we are having Battle of Greece DLC!
It's a good idea, but first we'll have to see how the Battle of Thermopylae plays out during the campaign. The truth is that this DLC looks very good.
@@historyforgamers yeah looks promising
Those thespians were so dramatic
You have a great channel congrats...hope too see more of your videos.🛡️💀🗡️
Thanks Juan!. I am currently working on the video of the Battle of Castillon.
@@historyforgamers cool, but you are aware the Spartans and Greeks used the phalanx right? and also that it never broke until the Persians flanked them on that goat path?
@@brettglover135 Yes, but the AoE has its limitations and putting the phalanx in static mode meant that the enemy units that did not attack the Greeks could go around them. It was a bit strange.
@@historyforgamers the pass is narrow how the heck would they outflank you?
@@brettglover135 I guess the execution of the battle was not the most accurate precisely...😕
This... Is... Sparta!!!!
Super film
Thanks for all ❤ i love u
Bro cool great job ❤.dont forget hitten and yarmok😉❤
I don't forget 😉.
Ah yes, the classic archer strategy. Walk around the enemy's line until you are stabbed to death, never firing an arrow. Xerxes' micro was pretty bad.
Awesome. thank you.
Thanks for watching it Iago.
My favorite part: Ow Ahh Ow ahh ow ow.. :D
Amazing scenario and voiceover. I want to give a shoutout to my friend who made a AOE 2 competitive AI called Thermopylae
Thanks Aegis!
@@historyforgamers what's your favorite unit?
@@1AEGIS Well, my favorite Aoe2 unit is the hussar. The cost vs performance seems great to me.
Haz la batalla de platea 🙏
Los persas triplicaban a los griegos en número,esa batalla esta guapa
Esta te a quedado de 1️⃣0️⃣
Habrá video de Platea en el canal. No puedo decirte cuando porque hay mucha batalla por hacer pero llegará 😉.
@@historyforgamers 👍👍 Cada cuanto subes vídeos broo?
@@sebastianmanuelandresgarci2087 Más o menos uno cada semana.
Considering this was made with the Romae ad Bellum mod, I'm surprised you haven't linked/credited it.
You are absolutely right and I have added it in the description. My bad, thanks for letting me know.
Passive aggressive much?
Did you just use vanilla hoplites or a retextured version?
Rome at War mod.
@@historyforgamers thank you, this looks like an awesome mod!
@@Sheisinvisible It's really good 😉.
Spartans what is your profession?! ..............rts gamer!
AUUUU!!!!
Those archers are so good got 2 kills
Yeah so cool !!!
Remake this with AOE2 Greece expansion? When?
I was looking forward to playing the Battle of Thermopylae depicted in the DLC. I quite liked it as a playable scenario but it could be improved for a reconstruction. At some point I'd like to make a new video with all those new graphics, it could turn out really well.
come and get it!
This is an interesting approach to telling history. I enjoyed it, and I imagine you're still refining this series, so I have a little constructive criticism:
I think it would help a lot if you ordered the units to stand ground, since watching hoplites break formation to rush at Persian infantry is a little immersion-breaking and doesn't make much sense since it nullified their actual tactical advantage. A little more narration during battles, with some background information about the hoplites, the Peloponnesian War, more quotes from the participants, etc., would be nice too, so we don't just hear Persian death screams x1000.
On that note, I might also lower the game/replay speed a little since everything is happening incredibly fast, and the noise and motion is a little overwhelming. I would probably boost the health of the Persian infantry, too, since even though they were far less effective and well-trained than the hoplites, they wouldn't have been that bad, and no one in their right mind would continue to throw themselves into battle after watching their brigade take 90 percent casualties - they would probably rotate out, or fall back and attack again in waves. I would have liked to see more uncertainty and frustration in their ranks, like individual soldiers saying "screw this" and peeling off the attack. This sort of thing would be hard to get right, so I don't know if you do this alone or work with a second player, but it seems to me like having two "opponents" communicating together off camera would make this work fluidly.
That being said, I subscribed, and I think this format could be a lot of fun to watch for famous battles like the Siege of Troy, the Battle of Megiddo, Yarmouk, etc.
Thank you very much for your extensive comment and such good suggestions Michael.
You are right about the movement of the hoplites, but trying to put them in "hold position" they let the Persian units pass to the side without attacking them and it was quite strange. I guess more micromanagement would be ideal but it's hard to do it myself using 2 computers at the same time, which is how I do it. Anyway, I keep polishing and improving the videos and, over time, I'll probably redo some.
I'm writing down the battles you've mentioned. Thanks again!
If this was a real AOE scenario, the obvious answer to win a chokepoint would be siege weapons...
Thats how the romans did it
Seems Leonidus was a victim of treachery...
Xerxes was lost large amount of his elite warrior named as immortals in battle of Thermmopylae passage. As a result Xerxes has commanded retreat them for not due to increase casualties.
First of all I would like to thank you for considering my suggestion and dedicate some time and effort for it, I really appreciate that
Second Don't take this as a suggestion for a video it's just an idea and I think it will work with you
why don't you make the real life battles that happened in the AoE2 campaign or scenarios
In this way when somebody is searching for the campaign/scenario he will find your among the people but not as a gameplay video rather as a fun twist (for the outsider)
You don't have to do the whole campaign for sure because that will be much more than an experiment but you can do the famous ones
I admit part of that is inspired by "Spirit Of The Law Campaign Vs History" in which when I watch I wonder how the battles really happened (i.e John of Arc: The Siege of Paris) (i.e Saladin: The Lion And The Demon)
I think you already thought about that but I said to let you know if you didn't
Yes, I should focus on making the battles more famous, even though they have already appeared in the game's official campaigns and that way I could reach a larger audience. That's what I'm going to do from this video.
Honestly, I didn't know Spirit of the Law had these kinds of videos. When I have an idea and I start with it, I don't usually like to see that someone has already done it, I prefer to think that I am the first and that motivates me. But come on, almost everything is invented on TH-cam so what I do is fool myself to stay motivated 😅.
Thank you very much for your suggestion and for watching the video.
@@historyforgamers Good for your production energy and all the best to you
NO PRISONERS!!!!
NO MERCY!!!!
Wololo aiyowa
I wish that the Spartans were a playable civ in Age of Empires 2
This is amazing, but please notice this is not Age of Empires II, it is the original, the one and only, Age of Empires
Thank you very much Antonio, but it is Age of Empires 2 with the "Rome ad Bellum" mod that modifies units and buildings to be like those of the first Aoe.
Really?? Thanks, I was not aware such a mod existed! Great content!
@@antoniojosepretomartinsgom9503 Thanks!
I accidentaly downloaded the wrong "Battle of Salamees".
Yes, I think that was not in my history book 🤭.
Way better than cgi
High time to redo this with the new dlc
You are right, although we will have to see how the official campaign represents the battle.
wao very very nice, the game is 0AD? thank you.
Is Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition
Now we just need a campaign where xerxes was defeated. Cobra cars and all cheat units allowed from aoe1 and 2. But the population caps must be maintained. IE Persian army with many sub/ally civs is ten times bigger than the Greeks.
dam, what was the Spartans armor rating anyways?
The secret is HP and Atack 😉.
And ground was made blue from all Persian clothes.
I just learned something very sad: Thebans were cowards compared to both Spartans & Thespians.
Can you do the scenario 300 Sparta official with 3 subscribers ?
I'm sorry, I do not understand you. What do you mean?
@@historyforgamers there is a scenario called 300 Sparta Official it’s a 4 player thing against the ai with 6 waves
@@DaBlade1 I didn't know that, I'll take a look. Thank you!
You built this in the scenario setting of AOE2?
Yes, in the scenario editor of AoE2.
@historyforgamers that's amazing!
Is this on the new edition as well ?
It is a scenario created by me with Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition and the "Rome ad Bellum" mod.
Can you share the scenario files?
Yes, in the future I will share some of the maps, but without the events and the units, which are designed to make the video, rather than to play it.
Здарова Потолок!Когда Древняя Греция с упором на олимпийские игры и фалангу?
Many, many years ago
When Persia came to shore
Wasn't it easier to simply block the whole narrow pass with a wall and put archers on top protected by shileds of Hoplites ? Why toe to toe combat when you can take full advantage of a narrow path ?
the Greeks had a cultural belief at the time that ranged warfare was for cowards, the Greeks had some ranged skirmishers but not very many; it's just not how they typically fought. It might seem foolish but ancient peoples didn't see the world in the same way modern people often do. If they just hid behind the wall the Persians would climb over it and fight them on the other side at some point anyway, a line of Lacedaemonian shields was about as good as any wall. The Greeks were making good use of the choke point until the Persians went through the goat herders pass, also keep in mind this was a mountainous area by the sea, it wasn't easy to build things there especially when a massive invading army is arriving soon and you've only marched up there with your war gear and some food.
There was a simple statement which reflected the Spartan war code for each soldier: “either come home with your shield or on it” in essence part of the Spartan law. No retreat. No surrender. No cowards.
Any way to change the death sound? Lol
1 spartan: 600 food 600 gold holy
op
I think they are too op 😆.
I have a curious question
Can you tell me what are the spartans stats
There's the trick 😁. They have 1000 HP and triple attack value.
@@historyforgamers some historical steroids 😂
@@historyforgamers even without the enhancement, the legendary in AOE1 is so imbalanced
they can 2 hit kill most of the units from previous ages, while taking 1 damage from most of the hits
If Leonidas had an army of 20,000 then no doubt they would’ve slaughtered all the Persians
He did, but most of them had to stay home because of dumb ass religious reasons.
just bring a few mangonels...
Alguien conoce el mod de las facciones usadas?
El mod es "Romae ad Bellum".
Free men? In Ancient Greece?
It was 300 Spartans and 1000 Greeks and 200 Macedonians! Everybody knows about the Spartans part.
According to Herodotus and Diodorus Siculus, the Greek army included the following forces:
HERODOTUS NUMBERS
Lacedaemonians Perioeci 900
Spartan hoplites 300
Mantineans 500
Tegeans 500
Arcadian Orchomenos 120
Other Arcadians 1,000
Corinthians 400
Phlians 200
Mycenaeans 80
Total Peloponnesians 3,100 or 4,000
Thespians 700
Thebans 400
Phocians 1,000
Opuntian Locrians 1,000
TOTAL: 5,200 plus the Opuntian Locrians 7,400
-----------------------------
DIODURUS SICULUS Numbers
Lacedaemonians Perioeci 700 or 1000
Spartan hoplites 300
Other Peloponnesians sent with Leonidas) 3000
Total Peloponnesians 3,100 or 4,000
Malians 1,000
Thebans 400
Phocians 1,000
Opuntian Locrians 1,000
TOTAL: 6,100 plus the Opuntian Locrians 7,700
what mod is this
Romae ad Bellum
Isn’t this AoE1 Remaster?
No, it's the Rome at War mod for Age of Empires 2 DE.
@@historyforgamers wow didnt knew that
Nice video~ It does drag a little bit in parts, but not that big of a deal.
I am rather interested in the half myth, half accurate version of the tale. Of course in reality, Sparta didn't want to help the rest of the Greeks and Leonidas went purely as an advisor with his bodyguard of 300. He and his men didn't really engage in much personal fighting until they were outflanked and killed. Spartan propaganda at home spun the story as a legend of sacrifice and heroism.. in reality, the scared Spartans were just caught with their pants down
Wait, crucifications happened back then?
Yes, this form of punishment was supposedly created in Assyria around the 6th century B.C. The practice was imitated by great Mediterranean powers, such as Alexander the Great, who imported it some 200 years after its appearance in the Near East.
@@historyforgamers interesting
One of the famous ones were Jesus Christ
Wich mod is it?
The mod is called "Rome at War" or "Romae ad Bellum".
@@historyforgamers ok thanks
Read: Xerses I (Xerses the first).
History for Gamers: Xerses’ Eye.
Yes, the narrator was not very accurate 😅.
love this
Thanks Ciro!
what game is that?
Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition with "Rome ad Bellum" mod.
@@historyforgamers thx
AGE OF EMPIRES 1 MY FRIEND, 1 .
It's Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition with "Romae ad Bellum" mod.
@@historyforgamers its just like age of empires 1 ,but you have gates and grouping ?formations?
@@historyforgamers oh yea,found it
讚，支持
太感謝了！
@@historyforgamers 你會說中文!
@@redZhong 不，對不起，我用的是谷歌翻譯 🙂
@@historyforgamers It's okay, I don't speak English either😁
The Archers are lacking.
How is this Age of Empires 2?
This is clearly Age of Empires (1) definitive edition.
Unless the Return to Rome DLC actually imported the old AoE1 walls and sound effects..
It's Age of Empires 2 with the Rome at War mod: www.moddb.com/mods/romae-ad-bellum.
how cuz is age of empire 2 is medieval age of empire 1 is rome soo how
This looks like Age 1
Yes, it's for using a mod called "Romae ad Bellum" to be able to have Age1 units and buildings inside Age 2.
Titles wrong tho its aoe 1
It's Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition with "Romae ad Bellum" mod.
#releasethesnydercut
Controversial but I assert that Persians did not outnumber the Greeks at Thermopylae and suffered lower casualties.
Ancient melee combat was not destructive and rarely, if ever, produced meaningful casualties on other side. High casualties start when one side panics, turns around to run, and gets killed from the pursuers from behind. This did not happen at Thermopylae. Instead, the combat was very low intensity between at most 100 Persians and Greeks who could realistically try to attack each other at a time, producing very low casualties. What we know from ancient battles was most soldiers just stood in place, shouted at the enemy, and cared more about not getting hit than actually fighting the enemy.
The Persians overall had more men than the Greeks at Thermopylae, but most simply didn't fight. I assert the majority never even knew a battle was happening. The marching troops in the back would have just been told it was another break and rest in the campaign like any other.
Finally, when the Persians got around and the Greek lines broke, they would have been the ones to cause mass casualties.
I certainly agree that only a small part of the great Persian army saw action at Thermopylae. Surely, the magnitude of the casualties of Xerxes was not as high as is believed, we already know that History, especially the ancient one, tends to be very benevolent with the side where the data comes from, in this case the greeks.
The most moderate historians put the Persian numbers to 45-50k not including several thousands of greeks who were assisting the Persians like thebans , argians etc.
The greek numbere were at the most 7-11k. So it's still a big difference and that's taking into account the most moderate estimations . Yes Herodotus numbers are overblown but your assertion is completely fictional including your claim that ancient battles were not that bloody which might fit the criteria in the case of Thermopylae but it's a completely irrational argument to make if you actually have knowledge of ancient wars and battles not just in Europe but also in the east mongol - chinese - japanese wars etc
this aoe 1 mate.....
这是帝国1啊
这是带有“战争中的罗马”模组的帝国时代 2
lol They lie about history in games too
What do you mean Amir?
1
age of empires 2? seems more like AoE definitive edition...
It's Age of Empires 2 with the Romae ad Bellum mod.
Age of Empires 1. Not 2
It's Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition with "Romae ad Bellum" mod.