Yep, most faction has a cavalry unit that is stronger. Chivalric knights, Templars etc. would be the strongest for most western factions. But, it would look kind of boring tbh.
I remember expanding as England and Milan starting a war on me. I knew crossbows have a nasty armour penetration but by Jove did they favourite them! But haunting? Not quite once you have decent cavalry and artillery. And they cannot light up siege towers either. I find they're a tad over-celebrated for a unit that's considered a nation's special one. Retinue Longbowmen, now there's an archer unit for ya that can make any enemy rue attacking you!
I think best units should be divided between Missile Infantry, Melee Infantry, Spear/Pike Infantry, Cavalry, Missile Cavalry (if the faction has them) and Artillery
HRE Gothic Knights are just a meme. They look good but they don’t work as intended since the launch of the game. If you want infantry you go with Imperial Knights, but the strongest unit in the roster (and the strongest cav in the game) is the Teutonic Knight (also super iconic and famous). For Venece you can’t take a generic crossbow, they have two of the better units in the game by far. One is the Stradiots and the other is the Heavy infantry, you play that faction only to get those two. All the rest is fine, you can argue a few, but it’s good enough. 👍
Oh yeah I forgot about those French Lancers, definitely not the best cav of France. You can make an argument for Suiz Pikemen, or the Heavy Crossbow unit (I don’t remember the exact name, but you get it), there’s a lot of better options for France.
Lancers have full plate armour useful in all angles. Shield armour is less useful for that matter. Yep their crossbowmen aventuriers or smth like that is the best crossbowmen as an infantry, but I thought a heavy cavalry fits medieval French image better.
@@GOGPlays yeah, but for some reason they lose badly against other cavalry of similar prize. They are not bad, just underwhelming and far from cost effective.
I was bored once so I set up a 'No Rules - Unlimited Money' multiplayer match in Medieval 2. My opponent picked a Western faction and showed up with a balanced army. Meanwhile I brought just a spam of one unit... Elephant Artillery! I absolutely destroyed the poor soul before he could even charge.
Reiters sounded more reasonable now. But, I felt like Gothic knights are more famous for HRE. Portugal would have the same with Spain then. They had conquistadors too. I wanted to show unique units even it's not the best actually.
Unit stile 10/10, and yeah they are super cost effective. About being “hands down the best non missile cav […]” they are solid but definitely out of top 5.
Norse War Clerics are made to kill enemy heavy cavalry and general's bodyguard, they sadly do not have lances and aren't as good against infantry, they are however worth every penny, since Denmark do not have much anti-cav units besides the late game Swordstaffs and Halberdiers.
@@simonredion4417 It doesn't matter that they don't have lances since in melee they kill the most cavy units in the game and GBs too, because they have maces (AP weapon) and that makes a big difference. They're also good at melee agaisnt infantry if you do the charge prev
ah yes 2h shock infantry i always use them as somewhat disposable assault troops that are the first to rush the wall breach or assault the enemy lines with ligher swordsmen following behind them to exploit the bloody gap that the shock infantry left behind , ofc i could just flank the enemy with shock infantry but that just makes battles more trivial than they ought to be i preffer a good old slugging match with mountains of corpses on both sides
The Byzantines' best unit is Vardariotai. It's on par with the best Mongolian horse archers, and it's available on turn 1 from some of the castles. The Byzantine Guard Archers are also a very solid infantry unit for castle defense. The Byzantine sword militia is also good just for being relatively cheap and reliable.
HRE - Reiter, there wasn't anything including elephants that I couldn't stomp with them. Denmark - Norse War Cleric, one of the best melee cavs in the game.
Lol, the sound of crossbow's loading mechanism Geneose Crossbowmen made me think Geneose Crossbowmen were shaking in their boot so hard for the moment xD
Haha Moors are not a popular faction. They act like cowboys of medieval times and they're quite op. They can defeat all units with long range muskets and mobility except elephants.
Хотел бы увидеть подборку Юнитов, которые доставляют эстетическое удовольствие. Для меня например это - янычары с алебардами, янычары лучники. Красивые и сильные. Нравится пешая княжеская дружина. Стреляют далеко, сильно, так и в ближнем бою очень мощные. Сицилийские юниты это вообще воплощение мощи и красоты, особенно с их норманнской армией.
Sadly the conquistadores can only be recluted in America,so you only get them at the end of the campaign. Spain have other cool units though (like knights of Santiago and tercios pikes)
Lovely collection of units which you'd happily have in any army. Crossbowmen are op in a decent army or bridge battle. Although I loved that you had the French lancers. Would have loved to have seen each unit in its preferred territory
I wanted to put more famous and stronger units rather than absolutely the best ones. The French were known for their heavy cavalry and stricter feudalism during those times.
@GOGPlays You should totally do another one then. There are some super famous ones like the sherwood archers, magyar cavalry, hashashim, and hussars to name a few.
Gothic knights are incredibly bad in practice. Their stats look good, their armor and weapon looks amazing, but they spend all their time blocking, they have no shield, they get shredded by melee units and crossbows alike. They lose to almost any kind of unit and they do not perform like their stats say they should. Try them out in custom battles against pretty much any mid to late game unit, such as any cavalry you wish, any missile units you wish, most 1 handed sword infantry, see the result. It's bad, isn't it? These guys look so amazing that it breaks your heart. Note, I do see the video description, I know the claim isn't being made that they're the best. But man, I gotta warn folks who don't know about the 2 handed bug, it nerfs this unit hardcore so they basically just stand there mostly stuck in the blocking animation instead of completing an offensive swing. Now, they don't have bad defense but if you stand there only getting hit and not landing blows, eventually some hits kill you and you kill very little before you do. It's sad. You can see them do okay against a light cavalry unit in melee, not charge, and it's fine, and they can probably carve up most missile units in the game in melee, but you can do that with just about any infantry unit.
Yep, sounds reasonable but those are more iconic. If we included all the expansions, Ritterbruder should be the best. They look both dangerously cool and frighten enemy infantry.
@@GOGPlays Actually, Ritterbruder is the 2nd best unit in the game, the first one is the Cannons of the Holy Sepulchure, from Antioch Crusades campaign.
@@GOGPlays the never appear in any version of the game ive ever played?? Are they a spawn faction with certain needs to appear like the hanseatic League
Okay change the title of the video, because these are very much not the strongest units in these individual rosters, from neither a campaign nor multiplayer perspective.
@@StarRider253 nope had several moments were even my top infantry got completly annihalated. I had some Times armies were u Was way more aggressiv with only meele units, its a bs strategy against the scottish
Counting like all units, but must be different between infantry and missiles. Also most stronger unit in Denmark is the Obudshaer, cuz they work the same in vanilla and DLCs. Just counting Kingdoms/DLCs in my take (and infantry most), cuz vanilla is not my cup of tea: Spain: Tercio Pikemen Portugal: Dismounted Portuguese Knights England: Dismounted English Knights France: Volguiers Venice: Heavy Venetian Infantry Denmark: Obudshaer HRE: Dismounted Gothic Knights (Forlorn Hope in Teutonic and Britt) Scotland: Noble Pikemen Byzantium: Varanguian Guard Turks: Hashishim Russia: Dismounted Dvors (because they're count as heavy infantry too) Papal States: Swiss Guard Egypt: Hashishim too Moors: Hashishim again loll Hungary: Battlefield Assasins Milan: Standard Carrocio Sicily: Dismounted Norman Knights Poland: Dismounted Polish Knights (and the most strong since Poland IS the wrost faction in the game)
I made that one to show that the French unit roster has some of the best units in MTW2. Your wish sounds too specific but I may try sometime. Thanks for the suggestion👍
For the Byzantine the best unit (availability + cost effective) are the Vardariotai. You can dominate the whole early/mid game with them. Fast horse archers, good armor, good in melee and good morale.
Chivalric knights defeat both I guess. Point was showing a unique and strong unit. Otherwise, all list would be chivalric or templar knights for most western faction.
@@GOGPlays Im kinda a veteran like almost evryone in this community ,many multy batlles many campagins many opnion so on..... and most of the units here are on the you shouldnt use list for example france that cavalry is the worst of all ,venice why crossboss? Its either traviots or venitian heavy infantry ...
Rather The Most Iconic units of every faction
Yep, most faction has a cavalry unit that is stronger. Chivalric knights, Templars etc. would be the strongest for most western factions. But, it would look kind of boring tbh.
Yes, this is not a list of the strongest
Dismounted feudal knights
The Geneose crossbowman haunt my dreams. Idk why but anytime i am on the same continent with Milan, i end up facing near literal spam of them.
Milanese AI loved that unit. They have high tier cities and spam their militia versions.
Yep, and my cheap Venetian mounted militia goes hurah on them
I remember expanding as England and Milan starting a war on me. I knew crossbows have a nasty armour penetration but by Jove did they favourite them!
But haunting? Not quite once you have decent cavalry and artillery. And they cannot light up siege towers either. I find they're a tad over-celebrated for a unit that's considered a nation's special one.
Retinue Longbowmen, now there's an archer unit for ya that can make any enemy rue attacking you!
Noble Pikemen trying not to drop their pikes: IMPOSSIBLE🥵
The best way to use them is stacking two lines behind and make them attack and guard by in order.
Venice should have had The Venitian Heavy Infantry as their best unit.
Crossbowmen are easier to get early game and Venetian, Milanese crossbow spam is probably much more famous.
I think best units should be divided between Missile Infantry, Melee Infantry, Spear/Pike Infantry, Cavalry, Missile Cavalry (if the faction has them) and Artillery
@@GOGPlays You don’t get Venece for those generic crossbows, you get it for the heavy infantry charge. I don’t get your logic.
Or Venetian Archers due to their long-ranged Composite bows while protected by good armor
Stradiots: I am a joke for you?
That Rocket Launcher and Elephant still give me PTSD to this day
HRE Gothic Knights are just a meme. They look good but they don’t work as intended since the launch of the game. If you want infantry you go with Imperial Knights, but the strongest unit in the roster (and the strongest cav in the game) is the Teutonic Knight (also super iconic and famous).
For Venece you can’t take a generic crossbow, they have two of the better units in the game by far. One is the Stradiots and the other is the Heavy infantry, you play that faction only to get those two.
All the rest is fine, you can argue a few, but it’s good enough. 👍
Oh yeah I forgot about those French Lancers, definitely not the best cav of France. You can make an argument for Suiz Pikemen, or the Heavy Crossbow unit (I don’t remember the exact name, but you get it), there’s a lot of better options for France.
Lancers have full plate armour useful in all angles. Shield armour is less useful for that matter. Yep their crossbowmen aventuriers or smth like that is the best crossbowmen as an infantry, but I thought a heavy cavalry fits medieval French image better.
@@GOGPlays yeah, but for some reason they lose badly against other cavalry of similar prize. They are not bad, just underwhelming and far from cost effective.
@@GOGPlays also the unit is visually beautiful, I love how it looks. Style 11/10.
I think hre best unit is reiters or something like that.
Spear milltia best unit. Every campaign and desperate battle is won or lost thanks to those conscripted giga chads.
I was bored once so I set up a 'No Rules - Unlimited Money' multiplayer match in Medieval 2. My opponent picked a Western faction and showed up with a balanced army. Meanwhile I brought just a spam of one unit... Elephant Artillery!
I absolutely destroyed the poor soul before he could even charge.
Here's my take:
HRE = Reiters
Venice = Stradiots
Portugal = Conquistadores
France = Scots Guard
The rest is passable.
Reiters sounded more reasonable now. But, I felt like Gothic knights are more famous for HRE.
Portugal would have the same with Spain then. They had conquistadors too. I wanted to show unique units even it's not the best actually.
maybe but stradiots were mercs from the balkans
Seeing Danish Axemen and Varangian Guard vs each other would be very interested, as they were historically both Vikings.
Yeah the byzantines did actually buy Viking mercenaries
1. I liked the video, good job
2. IDK about Venice's best unit being Pavise Crossbows - that's a generic unit. I'd say it's Venetian Heavy Infantry
Would definitely argue that it is Norse War Clerics for Denmark, think they are hands down the best non-missile cav in the game tbh
Norsemen were known as better axemen in medieval times. Yep, most factions have a stronger cavalry unit, but it doesn't fit their unique image.
Unit stile 10/10, and yeah they are super cost effective. About being “hands down the best non missile cav […]” they are solid but definitely out of top 5.
Norse War Clerics are made to kill enemy heavy cavalry and general's bodyguard, they sadly do not have lances and aren't as good against infantry, they are however worth every penny, since Denmark do not have much anti-cav units besides the late game Swordstaffs and Halberdiers.
Norse War Clergy (Armored Clergy) is the best no-gb cav in Denmark, and they look so cool too
@@simonredion4417 It doesn't matter that they don't have lances since in melee they kill the most cavy units in the game and GBs too, because they have maces (AP weapon) and that makes a big difference. They're also good at melee agaisnt infantry if you do the charge prev
im 41 years old and i just started playing this game on mobile.
at the 2nd day i found out im playing england all wrong!
Train lots of longbowmen and use sharpened stakes before starting battles. They can defeat even a late period balanced army this way easily.
i lost my youth playing this game
And let's say that non of us regrets it
It was perfect
And let's say that non of us regrets it
Same. After finding legendoftotalwar i started playing again. It is madness, i cannnot stop playing
ah yes 2h shock infantry i always use them as somewhat disposable assault troops that are the first to rush the wall breach or assault the enemy lines with ligher swordsmen following behind them to exploit the bloody gap that the shock infantry left behind , ofc i could just flank the enemy with shock infantry but that just makes battles more trivial than they ought to be i preffer a good old slugging match with mountains of corpses on both sides
I think two handed swordsmen are stronger than axemen. They can cause high damage against units after charging units. They look cinematic though.
@@GOGPlays i think 2h swordsmen also have more defense
The Byzantines' best unit is Vardariotai. It's on par with the best Mongolian horse archers, and it's available on turn 1 from some of the castles. The Byzantine Guard Archers are also a very solid infantry unit for castle defense.
The Byzantine sword militia is also good just for being relatively cheap and reliable.
HRE - Reiter, there wasn't anything including elephants that I couldn't stomp with them.
Denmark - Norse War Cleric, one of the best melee cavs in the game.
Lol, the sound of crossbow's loading mechanism Geneose Crossbowmen made me think Geneose Crossbowmen were shaking in their boot so hard for the moment xD
The strongest unit is the assassin. With one good assassin you can bring an empire down.
Will you do this video, but for the dlc campaign factions?
It sounds like a reasonable video idea, thanks for suggesting.
The Elephant is Nightmares💀
I had to retire from this game and Steam for life stuff, i miss it a lot!
Did you take an arrow to the knee?
@@eugenefrolov1396
Yeoman archers!
Come baaack :(
@@NataliaYaremchuk0816Well you are a real life witness of a total war 😐
Me playing M2TW for ages: I know everything
Camel riders with guns: merhaba!
Haha Moors are not a popular faction. They act like cowboys of medieval times and they're quite op. They can defeat all units with long range muskets and mobility except elephants.
@@GOGPlays I used to have full stacks of cheap Irish horsemen with arquebueses and that was OP
@@GOGPlays it actually makes sense that there are camel riders in the desert, but they were used totally different irl
I didn’t even know that in a custom battle you can play as the Saxons, Normans and rebels, and the video is just a masterpiece!!!!
Thanks. I modded the game to play as those factions in custom battles.
Major bonus points for including the Saxons!
Хотел бы увидеть подборку Юнитов, которые доставляют эстетическое удовольствие.
Для меня например это - янычары с алебардами, янычары лучники. Красивые и сильные. Нравится пешая княжеская дружина. Стреляют далеко, сильно, так и в ближнем бою очень мощные. Сицилийские юниты это вообще воплощение мощи и красоты, особенно с их норманнской армией.
Мне нравятся египетские юниты с их цветами
Maybe you could make a video in the future for the best unit for each Period of time
How do follow the units likes that in 1:03
Press the delete button when you selected a unit.
@@GOGPlays but can your do it on mobile?
@@GOGPlaysBut on mobile?
@@arsalanalonto6056 only when we play the tutorial
Sadly the conquistadores can only be recluted in America,so you only get them at the end of the campaign. Spain have other cool units though (like knights of Santiago and tercios pikes)
How to follow single unit in M2TW android version?
I have never played that version tbh.
Nice vid
Thanks:)
Lovely collection of units which you'd happily have in any army. Crossbowmen are op in a decent army or bridge battle. Although I loved that you had the French lancers. Would have loved to have seen each unit in its preferred territory
I wanted to put more famous and stronger units rather than absolutely the best ones. The French were known for their heavy cavalry and stricter feudalism during those times.
@GOGPlays You should totally do another one then. There are some super famous ones like the sherwood archers, magyar cavalry, hashashim, and hussars to name a few.
Venetian heavy infantry?
I hate melee units tbh
Gothic knights are incredibly bad in practice. Their stats look good, their armor and weapon looks amazing, but they spend all their time blocking, they have no shield, they get shredded by melee units and crossbows alike. They lose to almost any kind of unit and they do not perform like their stats say they should.
Try them out in custom battles against pretty much any mid to late game unit, such as any cavalry you wish, any missile units you wish, most 1 handed sword infantry, see the result. It's bad, isn't it? These guys look so amazing that it breaks your heart.
Note, I do see the video description, I know the claim isn't being made that they're the best. But man, I gotta warn folks who don't know about the 2 handed bug, it nerfs this unit hardcore so they basically just stand there mostly stuck in the blocking animation instead of completing an offensive swing. Now, they don't have bad defense but if you stand there only getting hit and not landing blows, eventually some hits kill you and you kill very little before you do.
It's sad. You can see them do okay against a light cavalry unit in melee, not charge, and it's fine, and they can probably carve up most missile units in the game in melee, but you can do that with just about any infantry unit.
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What faction has elephant rocketers?
Rebels
Gothic knights in this video is crazy
Spain's best unit by far is Spanish Dragoons if you include the Americas campaign.
Yep, they are like semi automatic rifled cavalry. This was for vanilla with no mods or expansions.
How do you get dismounted gothic knights
They're playable in custom battles. You should mod the game a tiny bit to have them in the campaign.
hi man unsure if u will see this but how do u get rid of black bars on m2tw. i dont have them on any other tw game and its only Medival 2. thanks alot
You should close the UI from game settings I remember. You are welcome.
Where are you playing pc or mobile ?
The voice actor on the next units:
Elephants? 🗿
Elephant artillery? 🗿🗿
Rocket launcher! 🤪
Rocket elephants!!! 😜🎉
For HRE it is Teuton knights. Gothic knigts in vanila are so, so overrated.
Yep, sounds reasonable but those are more iconic. If we included all the expansions, Ritterbruder should be the best. They look both dangerously cool and frighten enemy infantry.
@@GOGPlays Actually, Ritterbruder is the 2nd best unit in the game, the first one is the Cannons of the Holy Sepulchure, from Antioch Crusades campaign.
England have two strongest unit in your video , I only admit the second one wasn't English Mailed Knights and was English Knights .
The second one was Normans, they had the same flag in the game.
What was the last one with two swords was it rebels?@@GOGPlays
yep they are rebels@@nothing00164
Saxon what faction is that 2nd before last just before rebels??
@@hazemetz7896 Normans. They have the same flag as England.
@@GOGPlays the never appear in any version of the game ive ever played?? Are they a spawn faction with certain needs to appear like the hanseatic League
They are available only in the Norman Conquest prologue campaign. You can add them to vanilla by some modding too.
@@GOGPlays ahhh thanks!! Was thinking it was a Brittons kinda deal
We need one for Rome Remaster as well!
I remember playing as england in the middle east and the mongols completely destroyed my armies
Okay change the title of the video, because these are very much not the strongest units in these individual rosters, from neither a campaign nor multiplayer perspective.
What? No Greek Fire like the thumbnail showed ?
No greek fire?
Varangians are more reliable. Greek fire can be great or quite bugged.
If i may
What mods you use?
It was vanilla medieval 2.
@@GOGPlays ah okay
I thought the zoom in of the general was a mod
bro what mods are u using?
None just vanilla untouched files at this one.
I find the dismounted huscarls better than the norse axemen
They have similar stats but Norse Axemen are more iconic as a Viking faction.
if apache?? what unit??
Thunders braves
I to this Day get Vietnam flashbacks from scottish pikes
Because of how useless they are?
@@StarRider253 nope had several moments were even my top infantry got completly annihalated. I had some Times armies were u Was way more aggressiv with only meele units, its a bs strategy against the scottish
Those Conquistadors are always a blast to use
They're the best sword infantry in vanilla. Only pikemen with tactics can defeat them in melee.
Counting like all units, but must be different between infantry and missiles. Also most stronger unit in Denmark is the Obudshaer, cuz they work the same in vanilla and DLCs.
Just counting Kingdoms/DLCs in my take (and infantry most), cuz vanilla is not my cup of tea:
Spain: Tercio Pikemen
Portugal: Dismounted Portuguese Knights
England: Dismounted English Knights
France: Volguiers
Venice: Heavy Venetian Infantry
Denmark: Obudshaer
HRE: Dismounted Gothic Knights (Forlorn Hope in Teutonic and Britt)
Scotland: Noble Pikemen
Byzantium: Varanguian Guard
Turks: Hashishim
Russia: Dismounted Dvors (because they're count as heavy infantry too)
Papal States: Swiss Guard
Egypt: Hashishim too
Moors: Hashishim again loll
Hungary: Battlefield Assasins
Milan: Standard Carrocio
Sicily: Dismounted Norman Knights
Poland: Dismounted Polish Knights (and the most strong since Poland IS the wrost faction in the game)
music?
War of Kings from medieval 2 ost I remember.
I think Cuauchiqueh have better stats than Jaguars.
I thought Jaguars looked more iconic for Aztecs.
@@GOGPlays Then the title should be "The most iconic units..." 😅
Beh oddio la truppa più forte di Venezia sono i fanti pesanti con il martello
Portugal , uk and France have the best units
Can you make one video about best unit of Byzantine this faction ? Since the last video of the best unit was mention France the faction
I made that one to show that the French unit roster has some of the best units in MTW2. Your wish sounds too specific but I may try sometime. Thanks for the suggestion👍
Rocket luuncher(hawacha) is best!
It's the only artillery defeating late period armies. It's firepower and frequency is great, if you use them well.
For the Byzantine the best unit (availability + cost effective) are the Vardariotai. You can dominate the whole early/mid game with them. Fast horse archers, good armor, good in melee and good morale.
Yep, but Varangians are more iconic. Horse archers can be a force to reckon if you use them effectively.
Potrugal - Conqistadores, not portugal arquebusiers
Chivalric knights defeat both I guess. Point was showing a unique and strong unit. Otherwise, all list would be chivalric or templar knights for most western faction.
Venice Heavy Infantry is super !!!!!
Not Pavise Crossbows
These are not thw strongest, these are the coolest lol
I'm play only reliase horse archer or rocket launchers elephant easy win reliased
Pikemans!!!!
Teutonic Knights is clearly better than Gothic Knights for the HRE, this list is more kind of „the most iconic units“
Yes, I wouldn't like putting melee cavalry as the strongest units for each faction. Reiters would be a better HRE cavalry though.
Estoy feliz con la lista =)
Gothic knights suck
IS THIS A JOKE?
Why?
@@GOGPlays Im kinda a veteran like almost evryone in this community ,many multy batlles many campagins many opnion so on..... and most of the units here are on the you shouldnt use list for example france that cavalry is the worst of all ,venice why crossboss? Its either traviots or venitian heavy infantry ...