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Dude this was fun. I put it on and immediately understood the power
I use a build very similar but I use a crafted pardon stardust gl in the primary with disorient grenade and Retrofit escapade with 4th time in the heavy slot.
this is imagine's build from nov. 2022 but updated - original video title is What if Stasis was Purple? - Destiny 2 Voidwalker Warlock build
Ure awesome bro!
Hell yeah bruh your build is brutal I'm bout to rock that shit.
I have to say, as someone who has run a basically identical build to this one. Veles-X(Seasonal Ritual Activity weapon from Season of the Seraph) works extremely well if you need more durability than just devour, as it has both Destabilizing Rounds and Repulsor Brace. With these two perks basically feeding into one another, it can spit out nearly as many debuffs as Collective Obligation, while also refreshing an overshield with every kill on a suppressed or destabilized combatant. I recommend Veles-X instead of an exotic like Vexcalibur due to it not needing special ammo, as well as it having access to Vanguard's Vindication as an origin perk, which acts as yet another safety net should your devour fall off(probably due to everything dying too fast), AND freeing up your exotic slot for something like Witherhoard or a Gjallarhorn if your team needs one
I agree with that whole comment. It is a surprisingly strong pulse to build into
When did Veles X get destabilizing rounds?
I still have my golden tricorn 😢
@@IC33E It didn't I'm just an idiot and forgot that it only had repulsor brace. Sorry if I got your hopes too high.
@somedudewithakeyboard5388 I use vouchsage with repulse and destabilize rounds with mine. Works like a charm and I don't have to have this exotic which I can't seem to get.
Sounds good, will try, but I dislike that pulse rifle. Doesn't hit hard enough or quick enough for me. I wonder if the new Brave versions of recluse and Else's rifle would do w/ similar perk combos.
As someone who has played alot of Void, i really love Unforgiven with Demo and Repulsor Brace - you'll be debuffing targets like 90% of the time, so constant overshields+more grenades!
What kind of gun is the Unforgiven
@@stoneycooper9758 Aggressive frame smg from Duality
@@wolf1nsoul damn. I really need ppl to raid and dungeon with...
Any time I put on a void class, I'm bringing out the demo Unforgiven. It's probably my favorite primary in the game.
@@stoneycooper9758 theres the fireteam finder which is quite useful at times
to anyone who uses this build, best way to remember the 3 dots on collective obligation is to look at it from how lethal the debuff is to the enemy, from top to bottom it is suppress (least lethal), weaken (kinda lethal) and volatile (most lethal since it also deals damage in an area). hope this helps!
Disrupt for future reference typically means it stuns Overload champions, but it also delays ability use of enemies, such as shutting down a Fallen Captain from teleporting.
It also does lower damage output on enemies it just does not have a visual indicator like other effects do and testing enemy damage is rather tough for the average person to measure. I don’t believe overload aka disrupt works on anything higher than a champion unlike sever, which does work on bosses/mini bosses/ultras.
The reason why it works so well on Secant Filaments is because it gives instantaneous Overload/Disrupt without the need to trigger artifact mod triggers but it’s also confused due to CotOG also weakening everything it touches so things die that much faster without the keen eye noticing.
anything that stops overloads also has that ability, but the those exotics boots are still garbage
In my limited knowledge, I think the only void weapon that comes close to passing around suppression is Wavesplitter. Picking up an orb of power grants the weapon with the maximum beam damage while also applying suppression. However, the big issue is that since it’s a special weapon, you could find yourself running out of ammo (unless you keep the special finish mod) and this also could help since your goal is to grab orbs anyway for Grenade Kickstart and/ or Special Ammo Finisher
Or Le Monarque
@25:41 you explained the Buff they gave collective obligation about a year ago. It used to be hella weak and you couldn’t get that rotation because the cooldown was wayyyy to long.
I second the wavesplitter, I've done so many good solo runs due to the damage buff and suppression mode.
The Pulse is a fun one, each dot refers to a different void debuff. Shooting someone once takes a copy of the debuff and holds it. Once you get at least 2 different ones saved, you can turn on the alternative fire and apply the saved debuffs on other enemies (potential debuffs include suppress, volatile and weaken). You can start a loop this way by shooting as many enemies to spread the debuff as much as possible and once the timer runs out on the spread, you can shoot an ad you left with all the debuffs and immediately re-proc it on the gun, setting up all 3 to be used again. In a fireteam of 3, all running Collective, the void debuffs are insane lol
I'm pretty sure it's just any 2 shots will allow you to use alt fire, even the same one
le monaraque seems like a good alternate weapon for this build as the poison explosions would probably spread volatile to the nearby ads, graviton lance also seems like a good idea as the ad clear of that gun is just insane
I was saying the same thing!
using an alternative could be travelers chosen with catalyst because it gives you osmosis and using osmosis can turn it to void and proc volatile rounds and as well as the perk for it giving energy back for consuming those gift of light stacks feeds right back into ALL of your abilities, not just one which can open up the second slot for the GL harsh language w envious/repulsor for free shields cause youll always have a way to feed ur abilities and volatile will proc repulsor from class
The only problem with that is that you need to get a grenade KILL. An integral part of the video build is that you just have to hit the target to get weaken and suppress. Volatile is kinda a side effect.
@@redjedi3099 getting a grenade kill isn’t that bad when you have 2 infinite sources of energy, the first being devour with resets the timer on every kill and travelers which grants energy to all your abilities
@@MyMommysToy I meant more for higher end content where even red bars have way more health and might survive a grenade
Hot take: I don’t think there is a replacement for collective obligation for this build without really changing how the build works
Collective obligation is the only weapons able to easily create/transfer suppression as a debuff, which to me is what’s unique about this build
thats exactly right. other weapons work, but it wont be nearly as effective
That is true, but it would still be nice for people who don't have it to have at least somewhat of a substitution for it.
@@stoneycooper9758 that’s what I’m saying though, substituting the gun in this case is basically a new build given how integral it is to the gameplay loop. So there isn’t really a substitution in this case.
I'd just use Le Monaqrque
@@db1872 that doesn’t really accomplish what the builds trying to do , with crowd controlling the area. You need suppression for that
As you concluded, the whole build revolves around Collective Obligation, which is an integral part. Echo of Domineering is an odd choice: The only thing it effectively does is create a Void Breach.
I like Secant Filaments because a) Devour on demand, and more importantly b) easier Overload breaker options. usually those are very tedious to stun. For champion content, they are golden.
It's a +10 descipline fragment that helps you offset that -20 from undermining and it reloads your stowed weapons and creates a void breach, while the effect it gives is niche, it's useful for this build since you're supressing targets a lot of the time anyway.
Domineering, in this build, reloads your gun every time you suppress an enemy ... so it reloads your gun with almost every shot. After playing with it a bit, that seems to be the point. No wasting your Void Leech time reloading.
Thank you, I understand that it reloads your gun. So does Obligation itself tho.
i ran domineering to instantly reload when applying weaken to enemies, but didnt realize that re activating devour also triggered the instant reload, so it didnt work as effectively as i intended
@@essix5835 its still good since you still want to spread your first few bursts to apply debuffs between alot of the adds so devour wont be proc'ing yet, domineering fills up the downtime to where after you start spreading debuffs you can turn back to focusing on killing one to extend back your devour again
The new seasonal bow "Lethophobia" is a great option for this build. The bow is a lightweight which allows for higher mobility while also having a lower draw time vs a precision bow. The bow can both have enhanced repulsor brace and enhanced golden tricorn. With the amount of grenades you will be pumping out with the void subclass you can easily keep the 50% damage buff granted from golden tricorn active while also benefiting from a void over shield when the bow gets destabilizing rounds from Echo of Instability. Its a win, win, win.
I always love Graviton Lance for void builds, especially when paired with Nezarec’s Sin.
Will it build: Burning Snotcicle edition
- Concept -
Solar warlock is my jam, but this season's artifact is all about mixing and matching elemental effects, and banner titan is the strongest foundation for a mixed element build. Hands down the best survivability, great mobility with grapple, tons of super/ability uptime, naturally strong CQB, and unraveling rounds to augment the ranged play, so let's get crazy...
- Considerations -
1. Free unraveling rounds just by picking up an orb
2. Free radiant, scorch, and ignitions with an accurate solar weapon
3. Free shatter damage buff, stasis crystals, and slowing bursts
4. Synthoceps were nerfed in general, but buffed for glaives...
5. Winterbite is the strongest glaive and, when loaded, slows on every melee hit and freezes after 3 hits
6. Easy all-champion options - Radiant/Unraveling for barrier, Ignitions/Shatters and HC for Unstop, Slow and Auto for Overload
- The Build -
Class: Titan
Subclass: Berserker
Abilities: Rally Barricade, Grapple Grenade
Aspects: Banner of War, Into the Fray
Fragments: Fury, Generation, Transmutation, Isolation
Primary: Rufus with Paracausal Affinity since we're using strand and stasis
Secondary: Any incandescent hand cannon
Power: Winterbite
Armor: Synthoceps
Stats: Max resilience & Discipline, as much strength as possible
Head: Solar/Stasis Siphon, Hands-on, Harmonic Siphon
Arms: Heavy Handed, Impact Induction, Focusing Strike
Chest: Resists
Legs: 2x Strand Surge, Innervation
Class: Time Dilation, 2x Powerful Attraction
- Artifact -
1st Column: Hand cannon, auto rifle, dealer's choice
2nd Column: Flame Fiber Freeze, Kindling Trigger
3rd Column: Flint Striker, Torch, Wished into Being
4th Column: Unravelling Orbs, Pillar of Ice
5th Column: Hail the Storm, Rays of Precision
Play: Grapple melee and use melee charges to start banner and cover everything in snot, dunk tangle for woven mail and more snot, swap to Winterbite and whack everything (shield/shoot while banner regens your health if you're getting pummeled). When the immediate area is clear, pop barricade to collect orbs, use rufus to unravel/sever the next group, then obliterate them with hand cannon ignitions. Rinse and repeat.
Alternatives:
1. Radiant is overkill in most cases and tricky to maintain without Empyrean, so you could drop the hand cannon and precision artifact mods and go with an auto-loading / turnabout Explosive Personality for quick add-clear and truly absurd tankiness (banner, overshields, and land tank, oh my). This tends to be more fluid in easier content and allows you to take the solo and blast radius artifact mods for consistent damage and orbs, then swap thread of isolation for evolution and get the threadling artifact mod for super loogies... but is it really Frozen Snot-Fire if they're not unraveled, chilled/frozen, and scorched/ignited at the same time?
3. For any ranged DPS situation, a glaive power weapon is obviously not the best choice. My go-to here is to replace Winterbite with a chill clip power weapon and put Eriana's in second slot. Then just alternate weapons to keep unravel/radiant/scorch/ignite/slow/freeze/shatter up.
One thing to be wary of when running this build, putting down a rift doesn’t RESET the timer for devour. It either gives you devour or does nothing
Ruinous Effigy would work wonderfully as I do believe the guard with the orb suppresses targets! Plus it’s part of that starter pack so obviously everyone has it!
It does ran that on void hunter when it first released
I forgot the name of it I was thinking the same thing
I've watched more than enough of your build videos that I felt a subscription was earned...love the videos...so many good builds out there!
I have a build you might like, the exotic weapon is questionable but trust me.
It’s a solar warlock build(the infinite healing build) Using karnstein armlets and edge of intent glaive and just like the name it gives infinite healing.
-Aspects: Touch of flame, Icarus dash (or heat rises if you prefer)
-Fragments: Empyrean, Solace, benevolence, tempering or torches for better dps.
-Healing grenade, any melee you prefer, healing rift
- Armor mods:
Head: heavy and special ammo finder and harmonic siphon
Arms(karnstein armlets): grenade kickstart, harmonic dexterity
Chest: whatever you need for activity
Legs: Solar weapon surge, recuperation, and you decide for the last one ( I use harmonic holster)
Bond:outreach, explosive finisher, don’t of restoration
Your main goal is to get melee kills with glaive to prock restoration and cure. From armlets, while also shooting you r glaive every so often to use healing turrent. Use grenade and rift when no other source of healing is available. You can get restoration x2 if you finish an enemy (or use grenade)and keep it up if you keep getting melee kills.
Really Love the Navigator exotic Strand trace rifle. Combined with cyrtarachne's Facade you will have constant Woven Mail and Server the enemy, reducing His damage Output.
Grapple Grenade.
Marksman's Dodge.
Thread of ascent, Transmutation, continuity and Warding.
Whirling Maelstrom and Widow's Silk.
Any Armor Mods that increase your Grenade Regeneration.
Hope you enjoy the build and have fun with it🎉.
VOID TITAN
THE SPARTAN VOIDLING
Exotic Armor of Choice:
Doom Fang Pauldron
Exotic Weapon of Choice:
Vex Calibur
Weapons of choice:
I used Randy's or Showrunner with kinetic tremors (Dealer's choice)
Any Void Heavy Weapon (I like a crafted retorfit with target lock and fourth time's the charm)
My Stat Spread:
M:30
Res:100
Rec:40
Disc:100
Int:40
Srt:30
(Works well with my mod set up, but mods can be moved pretty freely)
Armor Mods:
Helmet: Harmonic Siphon, Font of Wisdom Free Slot Opt:Ashes to Assets Hands-On,another Siphon
Arms: Firepower x2, (Melee regen isn't super important)
Chest: Charged Up, Resist mods of your choice
Legs: Better Already, Innervation, Stacks on Stacks
Class Armor: Font of Restoration, Time Dilation
(Rounds out stats well and leaves room for build leeway)
Abilities: Any Barricade (Bastion will dictate on given scenario), Shield Throw (for needed weaken), Scatter Grenade(fast cooldown/decent dmg), and jump of choice.
Super: Shield Sentinel
Aspects:
Bastion + Offensive Bulwakr (The real Spice of the Vexcalibur)
Fragments:
Echoes of Harvest, Undermining, Lessching, and Exchange
(Never die grenade spam)
Gameplay loop:
Throw Shield to gain Overshield, Throw grenade to weaken/kill enemies and spawn orbs & breach.
Use Vexcalibur to maintain overshield, healing, void dmg buff, ect.
Spam grenade and use class ablitiy for survivability or instant overshield.
Keep good up-time on super > Slap them with that shield.
Nickey Pockets a.k.a Pauley Walnuts
Age-Old Bond with Destabilizing Rounds and Repulsor Brace would slap in this setup. Love the feel of that gun
Secant Filaments is actually weaker than it used to be. Pre devour changes it gave you the full benefits of devour, so you didn’t even need to use feed the void. You can use child of the old gods and chaos accelerant while being able to proc devour by simply casting an empowering rift. It was like having all three warlock aspects equipped at the same time.
Now you’d have to use feed the void or else the devour effect will be as it is on titans and hunters.
I hope they change this soon, maybe make it so secant filaments states “casting an empowering rift grants feed the void”.
The Unforgiven with Demo and Repulsor Brace is always a top pick for any void debuff and grenade heavy build. However I've found it's reload speed can be a bit slow at times for my play style so two alternative picks for me would be Gnawing Hunger with Demo and Subsistence OR this year's version of The Title with Repulsor Brace (especially for this build as kills would grant you class ability energy too)
Instead of collective obligation maybe:
-Unforgiven with;
Demo & Repulsor Brace, for extra overshield
-Funnelweb with;
Subsistence & Frenzy
-Wavesplitter, for suppres aswell. (Exotic)
- Buried bloodline (exotic), even more devour
- (Heavy) Royal Entry with;
Field prep & clown cartridge, for quick burst damage
If you haven't tried the gun on hunter you should. Not home to check my build currently but the aspects are invisible dodge and defeating a void debuff'd target you go invis. Gerfalcon chest gives you volatile rounds and the same grenade/weakens aspect. Also have a similar build ready for the new crossbow if I can ever get it. The gameplay loop is grenade something big, dodge to get invis, start shooting same target, consume buffs with gun, kill more things/setup buffs again, repeat. You're mostly perma invis so it's super safe.
Collective obligation is what the build revolves around, so replacing it is basically making another build.
But the most obvious tweaks to the build after the end is playing around with some of the fragments. *Undermining* is great so one grenade applies both debuffs, as well as *Instability* for another source of volatile that isn't your melee. But I could be convinced to drop instability if you really aren't getting much use out of volatile rounds.
As for the other two; *Expulsion* is purely a vibes fragment, it's not strictly _neccessary,_ so using it depends entirely on if you just want to see more booms in your life. *Domineering* is cute, but with the recommended weapons auto-reloading on other stuff already, it's not doing much other than a void breach.
Fragments on the top of my mind to try out(in order of personal taste and power): *Harvest* (weakened defeats drop OoP and breach, 10s cooldown), *Persistence* (void buffs last longer, -10 Rec), *Obscurity* (finishers provide invis +10 Rec), and *Starvation* (OoP give devour, -10 Rec).
I've been using word of crota with repulsorbrace and destabilizing rounds. Age old bond has the dape perk combo but is less of an add killer imo. And if ppl don't have access to the raids in terms of fireteams, the scout of last season has destabilizing rounds for the extra volatile spread.
Collective obliigation is my favorite primary exotic by far. Pair it with gyrfalcon's chest piece on hunter and you have infinite devour, volatile, invisabilty, and debuffs.
This season especially with overload pulse, because since it auto reloads I can fully kill overload champs with just collective obligation and never have to reload until they are dead, made master WR a breeze.
Whenever an exotic takes my ability to run collective obligation I always fallback to a Funnleweb with subsistence and frenzy or a Ros Aragor with subsistence and onslaught/over-under to still have that auto reloading-ish and the ability to still pass around volatile to enemies. Im Sure both of these would work great in this build aswell as I tend to use these on my void warlock in general.
Cant wait to try this build out since I always use collective already, and think this build is a great combination of what I love about void hunter and void warlock!
A few of my favorites are: word of crota with destabilizing and repulser, or age old bond with the same perks.
I prefer Word because it works with unstoppable champs
“The Title” is a 720 rpm aggressive frame void smg that dropped the Guardian Games event. Most notable for its time in the sun as a completely broken PVP weapon. It still shines in the world of PVE. A roll like repulsor brace/threat detector sounds juicy enough but the unsung hero is the origin trait “Classy Contender” which provides 5% class ability energy per kill, which goes crazy when mixed with volatile rounds. A build like this that is about getting that instant devour on demand from casting your empowering rift. This weapon will ensure your class ability is ALWAYS available 😎
I really like age-old bond with repulsor brace, Destabilizing rounds. Spreads volatile and gives you overshield for a little extra survivability.
a weapon that has repulsor brace will grant COPIOUS overshield,
as for an exotic
-buried bloodline: it can free allow you to have chaos accelerant because of free devour
-wavesplitter: bonus suppression and or debuff
-Graviton lance: INTENSE ADD CLEAR
-Lemon arc: if you wanna poke from a far range.
Wavesplitter. Wavesplitter would be great for this build as it provides decent damage and (if you've got someone making orbs) a good additional source of suppression if you don't have Collective Obligation.
I know it's also kinda knew, but Buried Bloodline is one of my favorite weapons to pair with Secant Filaments. If you have the catalyst, you get weakening rounds while Devour is active. Add on the fragment that extends the duration of Devour, and you can have the buff up for up to 23 seconds! That's a long time to keep a weaken debuff active, even if it's only 15%
Age-Old Bond with Repulser Brace & Destabilizating Rounds. Child of the Old Gods will supply weaken. Weapon will provide volatile around kill (overshield on killing them), and suppressor grenade for suppression. Gives you access to all void verbs easily (aside from invisibility).
Best replacements imo are Buried Bloodline, Graviton Lance or Le Monarque. Pretty much all 3 function as "primaries" (I say buried bloodline too because the ammo economy is great when it comes to exploding waves of enemies at once) and they all are very strong ad clear void weapon. Only downside is Le Monarque's intrinsic anti overload in case you run volatile rounds for anti barrier, in that case the other 2 would work.
If you don't have collective action the two guns I'd recommend for the build are: graviton Lance or positive outlook (especially if you have destabilizing rounds)
Echo of Harvest would work nicely here as well. You're constantly weakening targets through grenades and Collective Obligation that you would create so many Orbs and Void Breaches. As far as weapons to replace the ones found in raids, Riptide is great with Chill Clip for that crowd control, plenty of good void energy weapons with Repulsor Brace for almost infinite overshield such as Veles-X or Ros Arago IV, and Deterministic Chaos which every 4th shot weakens targets and makes them volatile.
The gun works with invisibility as well. Leach that too. Suppress volatile weaken devour an invisible too.
For the weapon instead of Collective Obligation ->
I'd have to go with the Veles-X, it grants an Overshield when defeating void debuffed targets (Repulsor Brace) and it has Golden Tricorn to deal increased damage after Void ability kills.
Win Win.
Solar Warlock Invincibility Boss Shredder build.
Fragments: Solace, Torches, Ashes, and Empyrean
Aspects: Heat rises. I use Touch of Flame for extra DPS but if you like Icarus Dash you can use it.
Fusion/Solar grenade (I use Fusion grenade for faster cool down), Incinerator snap, Pheonix Dive, and Well of Radiance.
Crafted Ammit AR2 Full Bore, Ricochet Rounds, Incandescent, and Stats for all. I use Dragon's Breath and seasonal fusion (If crafted god roll that is better)
Mods: (I prioritize resiliance)
Helmet: Harmonic Siphon x2, Solar Targeting
Arms: Focusing Strike x2, Fastball..... (I know you don't like it)
Chest: Void, Solar, Arc resistance
Legs: Absolution, Insulation, and Orbs of Restoration
Class: Distribution, Bomber, and Reaper
To start loop you need to activate heat rises then pheonix dive, this will activate restoration x2 and make you invincible (basically). You will use your powered melee to get radiant or use artifact mods. You will use Ammit and with artifact mods you will get ignitions with precision kills, and proc incandescant with kills that are precision or non-precision. That gives you invincibility, but we need the boss shredder. When in DPS you use well then go: grenade, melee, grenade, melee, on and on. Once you run out of infinite ability cool down you use god roll fusion and dragon's breath for extra DPS and then continue to be invincible and shred bosses.
Hill_Billy406- Fireteam Taco is my clan.
If you read this thank you for your time Mactics.
Same slot weapon choices: Vexcalibur, if you want to go the route of buffing allies, but collective is probably best in slot for straight Void interaction and interplay with the debuffs, albeit with a learning curve. Maybe Buried Bloodline if you're not into raiding but are ok with dungeons?
Outside of the energy slot: Regnant with Destabilizing/Repulsor works into the debuffs pretty well, Doomed Petitioner's origin trait plays well into staying alive, and having Destabilizing rounds/Loose Change or Reconstruction/Precision Instrument makes it a flexible tool. Chivalric Fire fits the slot (but why on earth would you be running it); Taipan is a classic choice for non-raiders that fills the void (no pun intended) or Commemoration also slots in neatly for active raiders.
Kinetic slot... Appetence could give you Demo/Attrition or Clown|Overflow/Headstone if you want to be able to create your own cover. Heritage can give you Demo/Recombination, which makes it beefier in a build that is build around constant interaction with void. Trouble being that you have to get close with it, but Pardon our Dust with autoloading/Demo would be my go to, as disorienting enemies in high level content has saved more runs than I can count.
Probably too much, but you asked, I felt like answering. Cheers!
Hmmm the build really revolves more around Collective Obligation and the ability to spread depuffs than it does Secant Filaments. However, if someone doesn't have Collective, there are replacements that could provide a similar feel. I would exchange Collective Obligation with Wavesplitter. And replace Secant Filaments with either Nezarec's Sin or Contraverse Hold. I would also change from a suppression grenade to a Vortex Grenade. And from an Empowering Rift to a Healing one. As for the fragments I would exchange Echo of Domineering with either Echo of Harvest for more void Breachs, or Echo of Starvation for more Devour. While it is true that we would lose the ease of spreading depuffs that Collective Obligations offers, we will still be able to spread all three depuffs constantly with those changes. Wavesplitter can apply Suppression (intrinsically) and Volatile from Echo of Instability. Our grenades will still Weaken targets because of Echo of Undermining, and with our new exotic armor choice, we will be able to throw far more grenades. We will also still be able to weaken from our child of old gods, which we can deploy more often. So if you can use Collective Obligation, go for it, but if you don't have it, the fun is not over! I like this build. Kudos to Essix!
I ran basically this exact build for 2-3 seasons and it's deecent for high end content. You absolutely do need coollective for this build - the entire premise of runnign suppressor grenade is that you get both suppress and volatile off grenade kills, then weaken from CHOGs - covering all 3 debuffs for collective. Without Collective you might as well run vortex or scatter grenade.
What I found with the build is that collective is just so much better on hunter with gyrfalcons - on warlock you basically have a strictly worse, slower version of their build. I've since switched back to using contraverse as it's faster and ultimately stronger. I would consider using it again in a season with more void oriented seasonal mods.
Edit: Damn, watching Mactics not knowing and trying to figure out how Collective Obligation works in real time was painful.
Honestly, since the build centers specifically around spreading void debuff, with a focus on suppression, there really isn't a different primary weapon that doesn't make it a different, worse, build. If you don't have Collective Obligation, you should just use a different void warlock build.
I run secant filaments for pvp. I don’t run collective obligation but having a panic heal can get you back into a fight instead of running. Alternatively, when I’m anticipating enemies that are pushing around a corner or a lane, I’ll drop that to trigger devour for survivability and a damage buff from the rift. Doesn’t always work against team shots but it gives you a solid chance to score multi kills. Void soul is always nice too since you can force enemies out of cover that are losing the engagement.
Can’t tell you how happy I am to see Secant Filaments getting love. Was one of the very few exotics I really wanted on Warlock and didn’t disappoint when I got it
Suppressed, Volatile, Weakened I think were the 3. You shoot the debuffs for a total of about 15 seconds. When that time runs out if an enemy has any of those debuffs and you shoot them you get them back. In essence you can have infinite debuffs, I use this on a Ursa Titan with suppress grenades and in one grenade I get all 3 debuffs
Brings me to what I wanted to say earlier. It’s tough to choose an alternate to Collective because when it’s used the right way it’s honestly a slept on weapon. You found out, yes ANY weapon you use while in that rift stuns overloads
Vortex Nova or nova warp 👀
Will it build?
Doom slayer at home
Summary: A void titan that is harder to chew than dry chicken. Comes with 2 shotguns (original amirite) to fit that Doom slayer fantasy but you can now cosplay as Riot police (Suppress? More like Oppress)
Build:
+Super: Bubble
+Aspects:
-Bastion
-Offensive bulwark
+Abilities:
-Rally barricade
-Lift of choice
-Melee of choice (prefer shield throw for more overshield)
-Suppressor grenade
+Fragments:
-Echo of Persistence
-Echo of Leeching
-Echo of Domineering
-Echo of Starvation
+Exotic armour***: No backup plans
+Armour mods (extremely flexible):
-Head: 1x harmonic (void) siphon, 1x special ammo finder (2x preferably), flexible
-Arms (flexible): 1x impact induction, 1x momentum transfer, 1x heavy handed
-Chest: 1x harmonic (void) reserves, 1x emergency reinforcement (flexible), 1x charged up
-Legs: 1x Recuperation, 1x Orbs of restoration, 1x Stacks on stacks
-Skirt: 1x Special finisher *(feels too nice), 1x Reaper (flexible), 1x Distribution (flexible)
+Weapons*** (you kinda need these 2):
-Flexible kinetic
-*** Energy: Void. Rapid-fire frame. Shotgun. a.k.a Basso Ostinato WITH Grave Robber (otherwise just find a shotgun with grave robber)
-*** Heavy: Tractor cannon
Gameplay: Hold W till enemy (PvE) is found, tractor, unload energy slot shotgun until empty, throw melee, repeat.
Benefit: Non-stop overshields, easy health regeneration, emergency damage reduction if the previous 2 conditions are not met. Suppression also just stops most enemies from even shooting you. You are hard to kill until there is nothing left to kill.
Logic:
Suppressor grenades assist in reloading function through Echo of domineering if melee kill are unlikely. Tractor cannon allows for more suppression to trigger 2nd effect of domineering frequently,, spawns more void breaches to play into devour and class ability spam (plays into all abilities). Bubble is extra utility for both solo and team settings because of the damage boost, orb generation for team mates, and providing an overshield to hasten grenade recharge and trigger No backup plans. I also tried to get T10 Resilience and T7 Discipline, Intellect, and Strength to lower all cooldowns, but make adjustments according to your taste.
Note: abundance of orbs means your emergency reinforcement or special finisher is always ready, but if you want to use armour charges more often, void weapon damage boost (legs) or melee kickstart (arms) are valid options. Damage against stuff like raid bosses untested but i'd imagine it won't do that great
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I've been running a very similar Secant Filament build since they got added to the game
My weapons for PvP are...
Lodbrok-C w Osmosis + Target Lock
Fioritura w Threat Detector + Repulsor Brace
Parasite
Super fun to always get health
Demo Ungorgiven is definitely my baby when it comes to void builds, especially on warlock. Smgs are my jam and it synergizes so well
WORD OF CROTA!!!! I know it’s a 180 but this thing hits! You can craft it and on mine I have Hammer and accurized rounds with enhanced Dragonfly and enhanced Destabilizing rounds!! I know it doesn’t go into the weaken effect but it definitely ties into the add clear part and you don’t have to even have grenade kills give destabilizing rounds you can switch it up and put echo of Cessation to create void breaches with all the volatile enemies you will be killing!!
I’ve literally been using this build since season 21! But with contraverse instead of filaments ! I never knew it does all of that … def gonna switch the exotic and give it a try ! But literally everything else was the same for me . Props to whoever made this build . If you don’t use collective please start to ! I’ve always used collective over graviton . Suppress weaken and volatile is way better then collective . COLLECTIVE > GRAVITON LANCE ANYDAY 💯💯
I have used this build before with le monarque. It is definitely better with collective obligation, but the lemon bow is still fun :)
I think the real BUILD here is suppressor grenade+echo of undermining+echo of instability+collective obligation. All other things are just tweaks to turn all of this to eleven. Its all about putting collective obligation (which is secretly OP) to work. You can go Gyrfalcon hunter for example and replace instability. You can go with repulsor brace on Commemoration to get overshields, etc. Big space for imagination and improving core of the build with all classes.
Agreed. It's a super OP/big option build with many ways to own it up
You are - mainly - using a void weapon: combine with nazarec's sin to get energy even faster. More rifts, more nades and more novas for extra damage + extra survivability and even faster debuff up time (due to even faster nade regen). I'd also switch back to healing rift since this would be a change to exotic armor piece anyway - the boots and empowering rift combo no longer matters if you change the armor piece.
I don't think anything would be able to completely replace Collective Obligation, because there is no way to suppress with a legendary, buy I think a good option to replicate the survivability would either be:
anything with repulsor brace and destabilizing rounds (personal choice of which exact weapon) or
word of crota for demolitionist (more suppressor nades thrown) and destabalizing rounds
For legendary, the Title. Kills give you rift energy. An old one with sfa/ofa will do nicely. Newer version, envious and repulsor brace will do instead.
I think another weapon that could go really well with the build is wavesplitter. When you pick up an orb of power, the trace rifle is fully charged so it has max damage, as opposed to its regular fluctuating damage, and sustained fire while it is buffed by an orb of power will suppress enemies. So, a special weapon would become your primary, which means you'd definitely get more use out of special finisher. As for a primary kinetic weapon, it could be a pulse rifle or scout rifle with shoot to loot. Shoot to loot got a buff where you can pick up orbs of power from far away. I haven't tested it, but theoretically you could buff wave splitter by picking up an orb with shoot to loot. You won't be suppressing as many enemies as easily as you do with collective obligation, however you can still suppress majors and minibosses, basically the enemirs that would be dealing the most damage to you, as opposed to minors (excluding minor wyverns). You will also output more damage as well, over collective obligation.
I personally reckon vouchsafe with the combo of repulser brace and destabilising rounds would be really fun with this build
Literally just equipped that same gun just before reading your comment same combo perk
Disruption is the debuff that stuns overload champions and delays health regeneration. This means that running secant filaments grants you free overload stuns. You can also disrupt guardians in pvp. Although this doesn't inhibit their health regeneration, it does slow down their ability regeneration a significant amount. All other anti-overload perks also work like this in pvp.
From what I've heard it will remove restoration from guardians in pvp but I've never tested it myself
Nice build, having the rift as extra devour source with disrupt is really useful. I might use Nezarec's Sin as an alternative to Secant filaments. Will allow more up time on abilities and can drop a grenade kickstart for something else
So I tried Nez sin with this build and it works great, but was missing the disrupt from the Secant rifts. Slapped on overload pulse to fix that for s23. After this season I'll probably go back to Secant filaments. Thanks again for sharing this build!
Don't have Collective Obligation so I tried replacing it with a Repulsor Brace/Destabilizing Rounds Vouchsafe. I think it works pretty well and it frees up the exotic slot for Deterministic Chaos which makes up for the loss of Collective Obligation's debuff rounds slightly. Collective is probably the best for this build though.
Three options for a void weapon:
Unforgiven with Adrenaline Junkie/Demolitionist if you like SMGs
Wilderflight with Spike Grenades/Auto-Loading Holster/Lead from Gold if you like breach GLs
Glacioclasm with Overflow/Reservoir Burst if you like Fusions
there are so many good void weapons now that have destabilizing rounds and/or repulsor brace. i personally like age old bond. another good one would probably be the new exotic from warlord's ruin (buried bloodline) since it will help with survivability in addition to working well with the void fragments for this build.
After toying around with this build, I truly believe that nothing can take the place of Collective Obligation.
That being said... a crafted Targeted Redaction with enhanced Destabilizing Rounds is very fun in an ad dense area with this build. Was just messing with it in Alters of Sorrow, and had blueberries leaving where I was because they couldn't compete with the amount of kills my void explosions were getting. XD
Side note: If you haven't really messed with Collective Obligation before, you've GOT to try it out on a Hunter with Gyrfalcon's... ton of fun.
Lastly... the Rex head in the background... nice touch. 👍
For a legendary weapon if you don't want to use an exotic, Age Old Bond void autorifle dropping in Last Wish raid.
You can get both Destabilizing rounds and Repulsor Brace.
Plus it is craftable!!!
This is just exotic replacements for Collective Obligation.
Le Monarque if you like bows, Wavesplitter if you like traces, or maybe Graviton Lance as a replacement pulse(ik it got nerfed but still fun), manticore for smg(or Funnelweb if you have pve godroll), Vexcalibur if you want a glaive.
you could try wavesplitter or maybe ruinous effigy but i think wavesplitter would fit the build more because it applied supression when you fire at a target for long enough which would then trigger domineering
You'd think the obvious pick for a replacement would be Gravuton Lance due to it's void pulse status. However, I'm reccomending the sleeper pick of Wavesplitter for the high damage, suppression beam, and overdrive when you pick up one of the many available orbs
I think personally a good replacements for collective obligation would be the world drop Ros Arago IV with repulsor brace and onslaught, a personal choice for a overshield and faster fire rate on kills with volatile rounds making the room explode
With overload pulse this season id definitely run briarbinds with this for the constant weaken healing rift and ability energy. Gives you more chances to get volatile. Just complements the build more than secant filaments
I just started messing around with warlock recently, but a half decent weapon to “replace” collective obligation in this build might be Graviton Lance to keep with the crowd control function of the build
Ruinous effigy is slept on and with the constant healing from devour will allow large ad clear on red bars and heavy aoe of applied debuffs to entire rooms! Paired with that commemoration is a more than solid combo your kinetic Is completely free
i think word of crota with destabilizing + repulsor brace gives you a similar way of “leeching void buffs” just from your gun if you don’t have collective obligation!
Running Buried bloodline - the new dungeon exotic could work well with this build. It could also open up your exotic armor slot, since the new exotic gives devour on multi kills, put in another exotic like Contraverse Hold. You can still weaken enemies with your grenade, and you have mini nukes.
Might not be as good as this, but the build seems to be elevated by the Collective Obligation.
A void weapon that would definitely go well with this build is the season 19 ritual weapon veles-x with repulsor brace and either golden tricorn or kill clip
Absolutely an unforgiven void smg with demo and golden tricorn would pair well with this. You get a perpetual 50% damage buff along with pretty solid grenade regen that will build with the grenade regen from devour itself. My go to smg since it came out.
I would use Ros Argo with Repulsar Brace and Onslaught, if you could get it to drop lol. Love your videos! Taking a few weeks off the game to focus on school but build videos have my brain happy
Age old bond with destabilising rounds and repulsor brace :) can’t go wrong. Can allow you to change out the volatile fragment for something else like finishers give invis.
graviton lance
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with Briarbands, you can get about 4 child of the old gods going at once (if there's enough enemies) and manage the same affect as this build as far as crowd control.
Ive even somewhat paralyzed the big ascendant knights in the weekly ascendant challenges.
I think Wavesplitter or Deterministic Chaos could be good substitutes for Collective Obligation
Harsh language could put some work in with envious destabilizing rounds, a void lmg with demo would give a good option for even more cc.
I could see a positive outlook (season of the deep vanguard weapon) as a good alternate. Can get a roll with either destabilizing rounds to spread more debuffs or repulsor brace for the void overshield after killing void debuffed enemies
if I absolutely had to recommend a weapon that isn't collective obligation id personally say either age old bond with repulsor and destabilizing or something with demolitionist and preferrably void like gnawing hunger, unforgiven (demo, repulsor), word of crota (demo, destab) or maybe Optative with demo and perk of choice... Surprisingly there are not that many void weapons with demo especially in current content... The non-raid weapons being the gnawing and Optative.
Old Age seems to be the best for overall due to it being a void auto rifle with their recent buffs and obviously working with volatile and with devour aiding in the recovery of grenade. However, it is still locked behind a raid encounter but it can be easily farmed via Kalli (roughly 2 min per run on farm weeks).
Collective plays such an important role that unless you are heavily gaining back your grenade via devour and demo to keep suppression going with grenades the build loses just enough that it doesn't work as fluidly.
TLDR: Collective is almost way too important - if do not have use something that is comfortable with play style that has demo or use something void like old age bond or gnawing hunger for volatile rounds
This season solar and stasis are wery good then why not to combine them in to one I present to you
STASIS AND SOLAR GOD on warlock
Subclass: stasis
Exotic weapon: sunshot
Exotic armor: dawn chorus or
Osmiomancy gloves (I preferred dawn chorus)
Abilitys: healing rift, movement any, coldsnap grenade,
Aspects: iceflare bolts, bleak watcher,
Fragments: fissures,refraction, bonds, rending,
Helmet mods: solar siphon x3
Gauntlets mods: grenade kickstart x2, bolstering detonation
Chest mods: concussive dampener, sniper damage resistance, charged up,
Legs mods: innervation x2, stacks on stacks,
Bond mods: bomber x2 distribution
Seasonal mods (very inporten): kindling trigger,flint striker, torch,pillar of ice, hail the storm, rays of precision,
Loop: make bleak watcher then wait for bleak watcher to frose one enemy and kill him if 1 bleak watcher is on the field and you have grenade ready then trow grenades an till the blink watcher is gone then make a new one. destroy every stasis crystals you going to see.
Honestly i think age old bond would be good for this build using repulsor brace and destabilizing rounds for overshield and void explosion
Dude i'm really enjoying this series. Keep up the great work.
Rarely. If ever. At this stage in understanding Destiny has a build made me go "Oh shit, that's fkn badass I need to try this right now!". In a SOLAR season no doubt.
Kudos to this dude.
I like how I an not run healing rift. Knew about devour. But forgot disrupt is also a pseudo damage resist. Plus the 20% damage when void leech is active buff Collective got not too long ago. Let's Go!
btw Will it build is some of the most fun to watch and interesting to see D2 content in the game right now. Touche!
Wow! This build looks awesome! Thank you for sharing!
It's difficult to replace Collective, but I think Buried Bloodline would be adequate
Not a primary, but I definitely think you could make wavesplitter work as well.
@@infinitedeath1384that's a very clever thought
@@infinitedeath1384 Not a primary but it may as well be. Just run a special ammo finder perk and you basically have nearly infinite ammo with it. If you run out, get a few kills with a primary and you get pretty well a full magazine back. The ammo economy for Buried Bloodline is insanely generous.
Graviton Lance works amazingly with void builds and volatile as it can spread volatile with its seekers
I tried this build before they buffed the exotic. I don't have collective obligation, so I used whatever void weapon had overload abilities. Right now, I would use my Positive Outlook with repulsor brace/destabilizing rounds. I just have to use my suppression grenade more
Has anyone mentioned arc with the bombardiers with Hunter? It’s pretty much a more explosive assassins cowl, and instead of a pulse grenade I just use a blinding grenade. Then you just loop melee and dodging.
Age-Old Bond with enhanced Repulsor Brace and enhanced Destabilizing Rounds would be a great legendary that would allow an exotic in the heavy or kinetic slot
Vouch safe is a fantastic void scout, and has worked wonders for me in GMs, especially when they are in the artifact
wavesplitter could be an option when you stay in your empowering rift. Could pair it with riptide/chill clip?
Yes I posted this also before noticing yours, didn’t consider riptide also. Double special I guess riptide would need gold to lead.
The main point of the build is to suppress everything. It would be better to have more uptime on the overcharge for wavesplitter, in which case you want a primary with the new perk that spawns orbs of power on sustained damage, and shoot to loot.
I think Graviton Lance would be a good substitute, as it is easily accessible to all players and has an excellent ad clearing effect to supplement the build
Disrupt is the word they use to say that it let's you stun Overload Champions
Didn't Imagine document these synergies way back in Witch Queen? I'm pretty sure he even went as far to show off that Deliverance was a good option in the Kinetic slot as well. He also called it the Crowd Control Voidwalker as a rival to his other popular Firepower build for Bleak Watchers.
I get that this game has a lot of parallel thinking, but every time Mactics identified minutia in the build, all I could think about was Imagine talking about the same thing almost a year ago.
Age old bond with enhanced repulser brace and enhanced destabilizing rounds. Just crafted it and it slaps with all void builds 👌🏻
I'd say vouchsafe (or any other void weapon suitable for you) with repulsor brace would be a good replacement for the extra overshield for survivability since you are debuffing everything.