Muay Thai vs Bokator - Bokator Basics ft. Dean Rosenwald
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2024
- We bring in Coach Dean Rosenwald from Santa Monica Striking to talk about Bokator, a Cambodian martial art that almost got lost in the 70s. The art has been re-vitalized and saved from extinction after a more sane government took over Cambodia, and the art of Bokator has been slowly spreading more and more in the past decades. Dean Rosenwald trained under Grandmaster San Kim Sean. San Kim Sean is the only Gold Kroma Bokator teacher, and he has been restoring a lot of the art since the 70s. Let's explore some of the basic moves of Bokator and some of the differences between Bokator and Muay Thai. Leave your comments below and let us know what questions you have for Dean and what future demonstrations you want to see! More demonstrations of Southeast Asian martial arts to come!
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0:00 Introducing Dean and Bokator
0:38 Stances
1:52 Elbows
4:35 Boat cut water
6:10 Punches
6:28 Final thoughts
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Dean Rosenwald vs Charles Rosa doing a Bokator exhibition match in Cambodia at Angkor Wat: th-cam.com/video/8lcp7s2yxbc/w-d-xo.html
I like that.
I'm in the LA area and will book a visit. How's he addressing the current social distancing with sparring? Light sparring with masks? How's that all working out in SM? SGV is still in lockdown.
The elbow technique reminds me of the how kicking styles differ. TKD/Karate shortened their stance for quickness similar to how Kendo practitioners have their stance which allows for quickness in step. The difference I think is speed vs power, like the kick, in TKD they sacrifice power for speed for points, MT is power so imagine a bat vs a whip, especially in movement. So, the MT elbow vs Bokatar seems speed vs power. Fascinating, I'm familiar with Lehtwai.
Do a video of the difference between Bokatar and Lethwai. Thanks FCB !
We’ll bring Dean back to do one on Muay Thai vs Lethwei.
@@FightCommentary I'll call and visit Dean next week.
Cool!! Keep me posted if you do!
@@FightCommentary I will. Just need to find out how his gym is doing the whole social distancing. I would visit Stricker's Inc. or LA Muay Thai but the former is still close and the latter, you can't spar. Thanks Jerry, great video!
As a Cambodian American I don't care if Bokator was the originator of Muay Thai or whatever. Muay thai had consistently proved to the world as an elite fighting system. Take it to the ring. That's the only way. Action speak more than words.
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As a full Cambodian 🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭 Nope. Yes Muay Thai is a famous style but it is equal with Kun Khmer but bokator is a higher and stronger more complex and if you master it you will be better and faster than Muay thai. So trust me bokator is in higher level of fighting style. Cambodia is better 🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭
Yes, actions do speak louder than words. That's why Muy Thai became a derivative watered down version of Bokator. Bokator was used thousands of years ago in the Cambodian military. It's engraved in our Holy Temple, much older than Muy Thai. I believe all those actions speak for itself
@@vathanasirey2865 🇰🇭🐃💩
กัมพูชาวันนี้ ไม่ใช่ บ้านเกิดที่คุณเคยรู้จัก ความฉลาดที่คุณมี ไม่มีค่า กับ คนกัมพูชายุคนี้อีกแล้ว จงใช้ ชีวิตที่ มีความสุขและคุ้มค่า กับ จิตใจสูงส่ง สมองที่ฉลาดของคุณเพื่อตัวเอง อย่าเอาส่วนที่ดีๆในสมองคุณ คิดสิ่งดีๆมีประโยชน์ เอามาแชร์ กับประชากร คุณภาพต่ำ รอวันถูก set zero เพราะอีกไม่นาน กัมพูชาจะล่มสลายทั้ง ทั้งด้านการเป็นประเทศรัฐอิสระปกครองตัวเอง ล่มสลายทั้งด้านคุณธรรมจิตวิญญาณ ของคนทั้งประเทศกัมพูชา จะไม่เหลือแม้แต่ชื่อ และ แม้แต่อังกอร์วัด ก็จะถูทำลายเป็นผงดินพร้อมกัน กัมพูชา ไม่สมควรมีคน ฉลาดอาศัยอยู่ มันไม่ใช่สิ่งที่ควรมีบนโลกนี้ กัมพูชาคือไวรัส หวู่ฮั่น ของอาเซี่ยน
I never saw this kind of martial arts and it's so cool. In my opinion the footwork of the low stance looks like a silat stance
Imo it’s highly likely they share some sort of basis like how karate and Shaolin share their roots. As since bokator is predominately a very ancient style
Tony Jaa is part Cambodian. You can see the style in his movies.
@@cxlc6760 my dreams is to go to the Philippines and Thailand to let earn eskrima and Muay thai
@@cxlc6760 thanks man
Khmer traditional martial arts have evidence engraved next to Angkor Wat
As a Cambodian, I loved this video and just learning something new about my culture is nice
Edit: I didn’t know it been this long already, and I got came back to rewatch this video. There was so much that I missed and now I got some more techniques to work on.
Btw I shared this with my cousin who was interested too but i couldn’t find a organization that would be interested sadly.
Are there any groups or organizations that I can send this video? I'm doing a series with Dean, so I want to show as many Cambodians as I can. Thanks again for commenting!
@@FightCommentary I'm Cambodian American and i'm going post this video in a FB group with bunch of khmers
@@Khmerseoulja Please do! when you make a post, could you post links below this? I'll join them too.
Thank you brother! It is an honor to pass on this knowledge!!
@@Khmerseoulja Amazing. Thanks man!
I love the new type of elbow explanation. Cheers guys!
Great video. I’m really interested in this and would love to see him back on explaining and showing more of this. Thanks and take care. Peace.
Dean is great, worked out with him at 34 North Gym, which has a relationship with SM Striking please have him on more! Really nice guy and good instructor!
I can’t find your gym on google maps. Could you give a link?
Khmer traditional martial arts have evidence engraved next to Angkor Wat
Very interesting, props for bringing that up
Wow, this was dope. Never heard of Bokator but now I’m so intrigued.
Yes . More please. I'm interested 😀
Great video.You should cover Bando which is a burmese martial art that covers every aspect of fighting including grappling,throws ,stand up fighting and fighting with weapons. It's shares some similarities with Muay thai.
Bring this guy again. Useful stuff 👌
Wow, the Bokator elbow is amazing. It was so fast and it penetrates the defense.
Very nice, well explained. I honestly hadn't ever thought about the elbow strike in this way, it makes a lot of sense though
Thanks for introducing another art to the world.
Awesome.👍. Thank you for always having interesting content. 👍👍
Gotta love a passionate and good martial art teacher. That was a great demo and explanation plus sharing your own experiences.
Dean is a very good instructor! Dean and Lance both!
Awesome elbow technique. Would like to see more from Coach Dean.
I want more of these bokator techniques!
Cambodia has three types of martial arts
1.Bokator
2.Yuthakrom Khorm (Khmer Empire Martial Art)
3.Kun Khmer
With different tichniques,it called following the era.We come everyone to study our martial arts
Kun khmer (គុនខ្មែរ) គឺសំដៅលើក្បាច់គុនខ្មែរទាំងអស់តែម្តង
I see the tybe of khmer martial art is :
1 Lbokator
2 yuthkun khorm
3 yuthkrom khorm ( i think it's not deference with yuthkun khorm)
4 prodal serey
5 prodal boran
@@cheymonypongmoeng9256 You think but you don't have evidence.All of above,they have the federation
@@cheymonypongmoeng9256 You should try to ask them with the master they have the individual evidence
@@tolayun4685 In the old days, Pogatos danced like monkeys. He currently uses Muay Thai techniques.
I like this Guy he speaks facts and know Bokator is Original Khmer Ancient Martial Arts
Wow this video is amazing , teaching me heaps bro . Please do more about BOKATOR.
From a Cambodian Australia.
Interesting details to the techniques.🙏
Great stuff!
I love this video so much.
That Quick elbow strike makes me think of the pit tchagui kind of movement from teakwondo, quick and slapping. Very interesting techniques. Greets from France
Cool!
MAN YOU'RE A LEGEND ❤️
Thank you love your channel. I left Cali 10 years for U.S Amy/National Guard now Im returning on 1/1/2021 hopefully bring jobs to the state as well.
Good explanation 👏!
Khmer traditional martial arts have evidence engraved next to Angkor Wat
How do you get movement from a wall carving? They are static. It’s like seeing a cave painting of a dish and you can make a whole meal out of it.
@@persepolis80 imagine a photo of someone writing and you see in the picture with no static then how do you know they are writing?
I like those elbows. Good video!
As a Cambodian love your sharing ❤️
I'm glad that our heritage has made to the international level. You guys can find a lot more through TH-cam search. By the way, Muay Thai is one of the descendants of this ancient martial art, sorry to say this my Thai friends. This happened because we used to share kinda similar blood, through exchange of wars therefore exchange of cultures as well.
We just put up a longer discussion about Coach Dean's journey discovering Bokator: th-cam.com/video/XwBpm4ENIWQ/w-d-xo.html Enjoy here!
Bokator and muay boran are defendant's of Indian an Chinese martial arts bokator does have some things in common but muay boran didn't steal the art of bokator like people say plus muay thai was created from muay boran
@@abrahamlincoln6201 Muay Boran is a modern term. It is also a reconstruction like HEMA is. The grandmaster of Bokator claims to be legit but only god knows. I say forget the politics. Do what you love. Everyone just needs to stop claiming to be the greater than others.
@@bobbercat2250 I agree with that
@@bobbercat2250 but I would also say muay boran isn't a total reconstruction it was a dying art
ประวัติศาสตร์ของ kun Khmer ไม่มีความชัดเจน.รูปแกะสลัก ส่วนใหญ่ดูคลุมเคลือ ไกล้เคียงมวยมวยปล้ำของอินเดีย กัมพูชาแอบอ้างวัฒนธรรมไทยหลายอย่าง ถ้าคุณศึกษาในเรื่องนี้อย่างจริงใจ คุณจะเห็นความไม่ถูกต้องของการหลอกลวงของคนกัมพูชา ที่รัฐบาลสนับสนุนให้ทำเช่นนี้ที่ กัมพูชาต้องการพัฒนาประเทศ แต่เรียนแบบ และตามไทยในหลายๆอย่าง
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แล้วมึงรู้ได้ยังไงวะรู้ดีจังไอ้ปัญญาอ่อนประวัติศาสตร์จอมปลอมของประเทศมึงเก่งเหลือเกินไอ้เสียมบ้านบึงถนัดนักเรื่อง ก๊อปปี
Interesting stuff. I never trained in Bokator BUT I have in Kun Khmer (Cambodian boxing ) for years and my Kru teaches that same elbow technique.
That’s awesome! Thanks for the info! Are there any Kun Khmer places in LA?
The Kun Khmer gym I go to is in Long Beach Ca. The instructor there is Kru Oumry Ban and Ron Smith. Kru Oumry specializes in elbows and knees.
My older Brother, Back in 1988 fought for Oumry Ban.
@@KunKhmer562 Kru Ron is the man. He's been at all my fights and we talk Bokator.
@@deanrosenwald3405 yes sir! Ron is amazing person! Always giving good advices from martial arts to life!
would love to see him back so you can teach you and show us those flying elbows and knees that would be cool
Can't wait to do the next one! Santa Monica striking TH-cam channel in the works!! Check us out on Facebook and Instagram @santamonicastriking
@@deanrosenwald3405 keep it coming very interesting
Definitely get him on again
Here's a longer discussion about Coach Dean's journey discovering Bokator: th-cam.com/video/XwBpm4ENIWQ/w-d-xo.html Enjoy here!
Not in the L.A. area but gonna look it up anyway anyway i hope you're well Jerry and thanks for covering Bokator. I wanna try opening a health center and looking for martial Arts to teach but i don't like Muay Thai (not cause i think it's bad just over saturated and doesn't gel with me) but i completely forgot Bokator was a thing keep doing great work.
Keep us posted on your journey!
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Fight Commentary Breakdowns Jee thanks, no pressure hahaha. Seriously though, thank you.
I'm a Specialized massage therapist (Neuromuscular Manual Therapy aka trigger point therapy) and want to do an actually holistic (not hippie woo woo b.s.) health center. But I want to teach martial Arts as part of if but don't know what all I'd want to teach though i do know i want to teach multiple things and that I'm gonna start with boxing. Beyond that i have some ideas? And Bokator is now among them well... That or Lethwei. 😄 but of I'll goes well I'll get there when I'm forty haha gonna be thirty this year. Wooo! Feeling old!
@@dannin1278 trigger point therapy sounds awesome! Where in the world are you? I want to visit you and film!!
@@FightCommentary In the old days, Pogatos danced like monkeys. He currently uses Muay Thai techniques.
very good grand teacher
Nice video.., good and funny!
I’m Cambodian at first of all I love Wing Chun so much but after I saw Bokator as the famous martial arts in my Country I change me mind and now I love Bokator so much
What video is that clip from at 0:15 ?
Kun Khmer reviews coming in soon I assume?
Hyped for it.
Guess so!! Maybe a Bokator vs Kun Khmer or similar topic.
Do a Suntukan/ Panantukan one!
Tat elbow the same idea as the change from a front kick load to a round kick, never thought that can be used with elbows though.
Thanks
Is there any video of bokatar elbows tenique
Yes. I will post some soon!
@@FightCommentary thanx man elbow is brutal
The Bokator/Kbach Kun Khmer elbow technique have been used often in boxing fight. The elbow technique can very sneaky especially when getting into the clinch. Some fighters that get caught by the elbow would get KO'd in the first near end of the round or the second round.
This is so cool!
I remember when I was training in phnom Penh more 10 years before... time pass so quickely 🙄
How was it?
@@FightCommentary I have return pp in summer 2019 and a lot of club where I go before.,have close. I make a visit in a small club run by a guy who fight in oneFC and he give some khun khmer training (but not in mma). I hope I can return when the international air traffic Wil re-open but I definitively prefer the phnom Penh of 2010 😎 (RiP heart of darkness 😭)
Nope, the monkey you talked about is well known as Indian's/Hindu's Hanuman and bokator didn't have the head bands before (you can find old footage of it) those are Mongkol from Muay Thai. And muay thai doesn't have only one style of elbow, if you watch the old bokator version.. there are lots more dancing than today's version. Also, they say bokator means lion killer but in reality there are no lion ever existed in Southeast Asia. There are lions in India though
Strong standing move!
The styles are pretty much the same. Its because Thai people taught Muay thai to Cambodian people after most of their cultures got wiped by their own people.
th-cam.com/video/NZ8t_mPlmEU/w-d-xo.html
Here was the original Bokator before Thailand sent Muay thai masters to teach them Muay thai. They are basically the same style.
Are you dumb? There is footage of Khmer kickboxing before Khmer Genocide(National Georgraphic), so that argument is defused. Stop trying to discredit Khmer people for their culture and heritage. Thailand obviously had a direct line of influence from the Angkorian Khmer empire. Over 1,000 khmer ancient ruins present in Thailand, compared to Thai ancient temples under 50 in count. The massive influence is obvious..
Also, thai's like to claim Dvaravati culture when it's Mon culture. Mon's are not thai.
I see that thai are brainwashed by their people or government. I see some angry thai commenters trying to claim ownership of Phimai, Pnom Rung, and Preah Vihear as "Thai" - which are all Khmer temples.
We have carvings on Khmer temples to exemplify this fighting style. What does Thailand have? Blank red ancient bricks temples which are not as convincing as Tangible proof? Remmeber, Boran is a khmer ancient word, not thai lol, a so called muay boran moved called "Jap Kaw" means, Grab Neck in khmer. In original tai-kdai, there is no word for Grab Neck like how present day Thai's say it. For khmer, it's still the same. If you don't agree, you're just willfully being ignorant lol
You're pathetic for going over every khmer bokator video trying to rewrite history. Its obvious the truth hurts you, so keep us in your mind lol
@@NoLightMystery Please stop being stupid and ignorant. Learn some history ya?
You mean, the Khmer kickboxing documentary that made in 20s? So old ... indeed. No one is trying to discredit Khmer people. Khmer people on the other hand are trying to discredit Thai people and Thai cultures that they have today. Khmer empire fell and all the cultures were left in Cambodia which later on got wiped by Khmer communists as well. Not to mention on top of that, Cambodia ... the remain of Khmer empire ... was under Thailand's colonization for hundreds of years ie since 15s centaury before Thailand handed over Cambodia to France. During the time under Thailand, all high ranking Cambodian personal and royalties were educated in Thailand. Cambodian cultures today have nothing to do with Angkorian or whatsoever, but rather are Thai cultures and Indian cultures.
In case you didnt know, Thailand was founded in 12 centaury by Chinese Tai immigrants and Khmer locals. Initially, Thai cultures were mostly Indian and Khmer cultures but as time went by, Thai people started to improve and develop cultures further, unique enough to be called Thai cultures as we know today. So saying Cambodia is Khmer empire is as irrelevant as saying Thailand too came from Khmer empire. After all, before Thailand and Cambodia, both were under Khmer empire.
Imagine Chinese people saying Japanese cultures came from them. People just laugh because yes initially, Japanese people came from China and they carried old Chinse cultures with them. But as time went on, Japanese developed their own cultures. Today Japanese cultures are so different from Chinese cultures. If anything, today China has been adopting Japanese goods and technologies. Same concept here. Khmer empire may've influenced Siam, but Thailand has been influencing Cambodia.
Btw, France colonized Cambodia in 18s. Funny enough, there was absolutely no Bokator record written by France. You know why? Because Bokator just came after Ong bak movie and Muay thai lol
@@iROChakri You didn't even get your facts correct? 12th century? Bro, it's 13th century(1200-1300).
I don't even know if I should even bother, when you don't even know your own people's history lol
Also, Sokhuthai was a vassal outpost of the Khmer empire before it gained independence. You think Thailand didn't get a direct line of influence from the Khmer empire? You must be delusional and willfully ignorant if you don't think they adopted anything that is "khmer".
It's okay to admit Khmer's had direct influence on thailand and that country adopted ancient angkorian culture. It doesn't mean Thai people are lesser than Khmers. Italian people even admit they had influence from rome. But thai people somehow, seem embarrassed to even admit it and distort history with misinformation.
You make the argument of Japan and china? Difference is, so called "Thai culture" is not distinct from Khmer culture. It's literally a same recycled or imitation of Khmer culture. Thai thinks the classical boran instrument Roneat Ek is Thai when in actuality, it's Khmer. Roneat is a khmer word. Thai's claim apsara classical dance originated from them and their proof is Pnom Rung/Phimai, but they're all Khmer temples. Thai's claim Sak Yant originated from them, yet they use Khmer numerals and khmer alphabets. Thai's tried to claim preah vihear but failed. Thai say "Dvaravati" culture is thai but it's Mon Culture. Thai people are not Mon people.
You see where this is going? Thailand likes to take what is "original" and call it "thai culture". It's disrespectful to khmer people and other cultures.
Your evidence are so weak, just based on biased nationalistic views.
Let me ask, you want to listen to me or a thai historian? Most likely someone more credible right? Certified? Well, here ya go, listen to a person who dedicated his life studying Thai history. Search up : Ayutthaya History Khmer Thai Historian Reveal
I think i'd rather listen to him, someone who is credible and studied ancient thai history. Not a youtube commenter who is salty because he can't handle that their culture isn't original.
I provide evidence, you provide "stories" lol
@@NoLightMystery Man, if you disagree with me, that means you have your information wrong. You shouldnt even call them facts because they aint. They are just lies lol. Again, Sukhothai kingdom was founded in 12s centaury. Not sure if I should try educating you here too but since i've been educating many ignorant Cambodian people a lot on internet and TH-cam, I guess I dont mind helping to educate you about your history too. After all, Cambodia is like a younger brother to Thailand anyway.
You dont seem to know your own history or what you're even talking about. Sukhothai kingdom is known as the first kingdom of Thai people was founded when Chinese Tai immigrants from China and Khmer people. Thai people are a mix of Chinese-Khmer people to be accurate, while Cambodians are just Khmer people, without Chinese blood. The beginning of Thai history has nothing to do with Cambodia today as Cambodia was just so insignificant. Initially, Khmer cultures (not Cambodian cultures, these things never existed) had big influences on Thai cultures. However, Thai people developed their cultures further to be called Thai and recognized in the world. When Thailand rose in power and influences, Kherm empire started to lose power and finally it was left with the land called Cambodia today. That's why Cambodians always try to steal Thai cultures. Its either stealing Indian cultures or Thai cultures to be honest. You're just salty that both Thailand and Cambodia came from Khmer empire but Thailand managed to have their own cultures, which then taught to Cambodian people too.
Make no mistakes, Cambodia aint Khmer empire. If you think Cambodia is Khmer empire, using your logic, Thailand too is Khmer empire. Since Thailand colonized Cambodia for hundreds of years, Thailand have greatly influenced Cambodia. Cambodia never had its own cultures. Once Khmer empire died, Cambodia died with it. It suffered from civil wars and communism. It also got colonized by Thailand and France. By the time when Cambodian people finally had their own independence, they realized that they never had their own cultures left at all. Feeling ashamed that Cambodia too was part of Khmer empire/Thailand, why did Cambodia fall so short. Cambodia since then has been trying to claim Thai cultures which were developed throughout 15th - 19th. Thai people taught Cambodian royalties about Thai classic dances, Muay Thai, Khon, or even food. To sum up, 99% of things you see in Cambodia are actually Thais'.
You know, it is sad when you're trying to claim Thai cultures as yours. You can never change the history that Cambodia was a slave to Thailand for hundreds of years. You can never change that Cambodia royalties were educated Thai cultures in Thailand and sent back to educate lower class Cambodian citizens. You cant show any records written by France. Its just sad ... when you try to claim Thai cultures as yours. If Cambodia had Bokator or Aspsara classical dance, or Khon for 2,000 years (lol), the France colonizers would write down the records. Sadly enough, there are absolutely no records because they never existed. How could they exist? Cambodia was a colony of Thailand lol
Your stories are full of biases, brainwashes ... its actually very sad. No evidences at all .. smfh
*** TLDR: Khmer empire influenced Siam ... but Thailand has been influencing Cambodia until now *** lol
❤🫡 It's clearly explained. 🇰🇭🙏
Has San Kim Sean had any fighting record?
Still nobody can tell even Mr. San Kim Sean can't explain 😆😆
I find all elbow techniques awkward.
My "funny bone" (Ulnar nerve) gets hit no matter what angle I use.
My left hand also has exposed ulnar nerve, but it's not a problem with proper technique. Underside of your hand does not hit to anything. Just don't use back elbow.
Ouch
Because you didn't learn properly obviously. If you try to figure out on your own , that might takes a life time. If you try to only mimic the action , that could hardly work.
do you lean back when throwing punches
No
I can’t tell the differences between these two styles because they are so alike
Depending on which style of bokator. Each provinces in Cambodia have their own style just like how Okinawa, Japan have different karate style in different villages. In Bokator case the elbows and grappling is heavily emphasize because they are focus on knocking out your opponent. Same with goes with Cambodian boxing pradal serey. The Thai boxing in the other hand are good kicking and catching the roundhouse.
@@Katcom111 Thank you now I understand
Just an elbow with a fake move , because your opponent will miscalculate the distant. This has nothing to do with speed , the reason someone throw a slow elbow it's because a lack of skill proficiency.
Hi Jerry, just out of curiosity where are you based? Because this whole time I thought you were based in China
was the sparring supposed where he got sweeped supposed to be real?
Lbokator is the most beautiful that dengerous i love it👍❤❤
Khmer traditional martial arts have evidence engraved next to Angkor Wat
has he worked with the brooklyn monk?
We can ask Dean next time!
@@ttytty6940 We know each other
More like Muay Boran vs Bokator. The modern equivalent would be Kun Khmer. Great vid btw
Dude, I just subscribed to the Kun Khmer TV channel. Thank you so much for that recommendation. I had no idea there was a huge channel on Kun Khmer!
Made this video before Bokator got registered in UNESCO. Highly appreciate it! Thank you for your contribution to share Bokator
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Bokator would be more similiar to certain styles of muay boran,doesn't it? since both of them are not competition's oriented and more "martial artistic in their forms
Studied Muay Thai for uears and fought many times lived in thailand and learned thai history and the first kingdoms in thailand were set up by the invading khmer i believe bokotar is the mother of all the south east asian martial arts .
I will learn it someday
Bokator is just Bokator , we fight in similar ways because the body is the same. Muay Thai originated from Yunnam (somewhere in China I guess). The ground technique is really useful in Bokator.
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Is Bokator share the same similarity with Muay Boran?
We'll explore that soon!!
Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, and Myanmar we all share similar fighting styles.
Yes in Malaysia we also has it & we call it Tomoi, its the same thing Bokator, lethwei they are just more ancient & didn’t refine much & allowed headbutt, even Muay Thai have old rules shows they call them Muay Thai kard chuek fight... rules are KO win or draw if no one KO its a draw fight and fight with ropes binds around fist no gloves
Boran means "ancient" in the Khmer language. So yes, I believe it came from Bokator and Muay Thai was developed from it
I study Cambodian history and I will write info about the history origin in my future blog based on research to help educate people who interested. Before the Tai kingdom emerged in 1230 AD, places like Sukhothai and Ayutthaya was under the Khmer empire. Sukhothai was inhabitant by Mon migrants from Southern Myanmar and established their own kingdom which is called Lavo Kingdom. Lavo fell into the Khmer empire in the 7th century, both Mon and Khmer culture merge each other. As for Ayutthaya (a different Tai kingdom) their kingdom emerged in 1350 but the kingdom had more Khmer influence but less Mon influence compared to Sukhothai. There is a bloodline between the Ayutthayan and the Angkorian.
At first I though they try to do AEROBIC EXERCISE but finally I read the title name that Bokator Ok I see
Bokator Have hand move and leg also a differant weapon in everyone martial art but bokator is underate😢😢
Ridiculously, about the Bokator that we see today. It comes from a hard effort to recreate a martial art of Cambodia. Inspired by Muay Thai and Muay Boran. Including absorbing the fighting style of Bua-Kaw and Tony Jaa, In summary, it is a re-make a new "Bokator" by the master San Kim Sean, who was helped by the Thai military to escape from the Khmer Rouge from 1975 to 1979 to got new live in America.
There was never evidence of Bokator fighting style videos before 20th century. But have videos of Khun Khmer (original 1:30 th-cam.com/video/H3_GBgqUQ8Q/w-d-xo.html ) fighting style in year 1930 and not same Muay Thai style.
Also Cambodia ever been Thailand colonized more than 400-500 years agoes. In South East Asia Most countries are culturally mixed. due to the contiguous terrain Therefore, it is not unusual to have similar cultures.
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The Southeast Asian kickboxing are all originate from the Mon people. Cambodian (Khmer) are the decendant of the the Mon and Cambodia is like an Indian reservation in America.
Bakator reminds me of Capoeira but less dramatic....I think Tony Jaa in Ong Bak use Bakator as his primary fight scenes.
Yes to both! The first thing I thought when I saw Bokator was that it was like a less flashy version of Capoeira.
Tony Jaa, is very very proud Thai, he introduced Muay Boran " to the world with Ong Bak. All the moves in movies he shouts are Thai
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Jerry you need to do one on Lethwei. It is the mother art of bokator and muay thai according to some. And a great interview that will say yes if you ask is Dave Leduc. Lethwei beats up muay thai because they use brutal headbutts and no gloves. If you want a scholar on #martialarts, bokator, and former shaolin disciple, please get an interview with Antonio Graceffo who is now a master of sport teaching in China.
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Lethwei beats muay thai?Leithwei haven't seen the level of competition as muay thai and the art of Muay boran allowed head butts and maybe even bites if i recall correctly.
@@rylen6920 Thailand, Laos, and Cambodian fighters all fight Lethwei rules. They take turns beating eachother. Depends on who has home court.
I am friends with Antonio, I can put you guys in touch
Khmer traditional martial arts have evidence engraved next to Angkor Wat
This is what youtube is for.
same thing
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looks kind of similar to Bruce Lee stance with just a slight difference
Bokator shares a lot of techniques with some styles of Muay Boran, since both martial arts are from the same region.
The funny thing is the word Boran is actually a khmer word but it's derived from a Sanskrit word called Purana. The word Muay could be Mallayuth which mean Fighting or combat in sanskrit. Muay Boran only started development in the late 1800's.
@@Katcom111 "Muay Boran only started development in the late 1800's" I need to have access to the sources you used to make this afirmation. As far as i know, there were some styles developed since the sukhothai period, only one style of muay boran was created and developed in the late 1800's, called Muay Chaiya (which is not that similar to bokator). If i'm wrong, please show me your sources, so i can learn.
Yup , and similar to Tiger Claw as well , and that's the interesting part about ancient art.
@@Katcom111 Yup , because the originate of Muay Thai comes from Yunnam , and people flee to Thailand by boats back then. So the history of Muay Thai can actually go a long way , and I don't think anyone really know how long the art has been developing.
Thailand stole boktorfrom us.
Copy from Thai movie "ong bak" Cambodia has been under Thai rule 400 years. Bogator boxing does not exist. And there are many Khmer boxers studying Muay Thai in Thailand. It is just new idea and an imitation of Muay Thai.
Muay Thai is Kun Khmer
Thailand Copy from Cambodia
you can see Kun Khmer or Muay Thai from Angkor Wat Temple of Cambodia.
Haha good joke
national martial arts no one can steal Each country should develop its own. You should have given up on the idea of stealing martial arts. Cambodia should cultivate the new generation to develop themselves. Rather than babbling that Thais stole It's not like an intelligent nation.
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Khmer martial arts have evidence carved next to the temple of Angkor Wat down a Thai where is the evidence
Muay Thai came from the Khmer Empire of Cambodia. It is written all over Angkor Watt. Bokator and Muay Boran, just to name a few of them. Alot of people don’t know that. Thailand only been around a little over 80yrs, (1932) Thailand use to call it Muay Boran, then they change it in Amercia to Muay Thai for sport competition. Then it got stuck with it. Muay in Khmer means One or to bind together. Boran mean Original or Old Fasion..
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Cambodia colizined of Thailand 400 years. Bokator copy from Muay Thai.
In the old days, Pogatos danced like monkeys. He currently uses Muay Thai techniques.
“Muay” in Thai and Laos means to “box” or “boxing”. Boran also mean ancient in three countries. There are no evidences of bokator in the past. Even the france said there is no evidence of bokator when they colonized Cambodia. Not a single evidence. Bokator just emerged after ongbak movie by a fake grandmaster from US with zero fight. You go figure
@@travelingman1125 Silly dude, little do you know that the actor for Ong Bak admitted, Muay Boran, is from Cambodia. 😂 Do you speak khmer? You should learn and hear your own celebrity admit he is Khmer, and that Muay Boran, orginated from Khmer Boran. Search up, "Tony Jaa Khmer". The Khmer surin people in thailand are ancient decedents of the Khmer empire and they know the "truth". The irony of trying to discredit by using Ong Bak as an arguement. lol
@@NoLightMystery if you ask Tony Jaa. He will say he is Thai, not khmer lol
The low stance is less than useless. It makes you very static and vulnerable.
On Angor-Wat is India Martial art,not Khmer.
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We don't want you to get lost. Bokator boxing or lion killing boxing is boxing deception Please study carefully before practicing. Otherwise, you may be wasting your time.
What’s “lion killing boxing”?
@@FightCommentary i think thats the translation of bokator(pounding a lion)
Muy copy Kun Khmer bokator
Now it's time for you to fight Muaythai !!! common dude!!! 🤣🤣🤣 dare you are??? 🤣🤣
Very interesting, what a petty he's to far away I live in Germany not L.A. 😒
Asian are not one race and not all Asian originate from China or Taiwan. And not all martial art are originate from Chinese. Asia mean is the other side of the world. Asia is a continent that Cacausian give a name to with many races and origins. Just like the Native American is the first people that live in America so is the Mon people the first people that live in mainland Southeast Asia.
I have yet to meet a Khmer/Cambodian WHO DOESN’T claim rights to Muay Boran, Lethwei, etc as fruits borne from the Kingdom of Ankar Wat
The only art that resembles Muay Thai is Bokator. It is registered in UNESCO because it's been proven through research. Respect to Fight Commentary for not being biased.
If Bokator is the best, why Cambodia had been slave of Thai, Vietnam, France ??? 🤣🤣🤣
Muay Thai did not copy Cambodia style