What do Muay Lao fighters think of Kun Khmer?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มี.ค. 2023
- The Laotian Times interviews professional Muay Lao athletes at Lane Xang Martial Arts Academy, hearing their opinions and concerns on the name change of their sport from "Muay" to "Kun Khmer" at the upcoming SEA Games in Cambodia.
Hello from Kun Khmer fan, Cambodia.
Khmer people are really friendly, will never ban you, or even Thai warrior. No worries. I can confirm.
what we need to understand is... Khmer people did not ask anyone to change their ownership name like Mouy Lao or Mouy Thai but Khmer also have the right to Kun Khmer or Labokotor .the right questions you should ask yourself is why UNESCO only except Khmer combat art as the world heritage. so everyone can benefit from it..the evidence and the truth is carving in stone temples all over the state of Lao or Thai. for the last 500 year Khmer people almost wipe out by Thai French Japanese Khmer rouge..our history and culture almost gone...we were forced to learn Thai language.. can you name one stone temples that build by Thai King. Khmer has over 2000 that carving our history and combat art ... now it our time to own it.
We live in a world where hatred and jealousy cross our path. You can argue with them or let them run out of air like a flatbike.
We all should focus on improving instead of seeking revenge. It is fruitless and simply a waste of time.
What about India!!!
@@KrazyPeople-ux2mngo ask India ✌️
@@BackHomeFromTheStates fung Thai call muay Thai, fung lao call muay lai Lao or muay lao cut it short
All the Khmer fighters I know do the Wai Kru before they fight. Not sure where the lady got that idea from.
Kun Khmer is the oldest and that's the truth
Khun Khmer is Fake and copy Muay Thai. Khmers learn Muay Thai and rename to Khun Khmer, copy Muay Thai Handbook. Actually Angor-Wat is India marital art,not Khmer.
Si thep from Thailand is oldest more than Khmer.
@@billfahchannel934 keep that opinion to yourself ig whoever taught u that was an idiot
@@billfahchannel934 yall people are just coping so hard trying to claim yall are the original too weak to face the truth 😂
India is oldest Shaolin
loas and thai used to state of khmer empire. Don't forget the history. The language the culture ths custom was inspire from khmer empire.
These guys still don’t understand. Muay Thai as a sport is an invention of Thailand because The Thai invented modern techniques, the rules, the score system, the equipments, the tournaments and the industry itself. Muay Thai become famous because our fighters have to get out there to fight with the world and we won. It’s very evident and It took 50 years of blood sweat and tears. So you can imagine why the Thais are so pissed with these lazy ass claims. We always respect original arts from our friends like Lethwei, Silat or Arnis which has it’s own moves and rules. So please be original and build something of your own and the world will respect it. We don’t want to have to explain history it’s long. Just build something new. It’s more fun that way. Peace.
Thank you for your opinion. Did you know that Thiago found out Kun Khmer was original? thats awesome.
@@dirtmcgirt751 Who is Thiago?
They understand but since they cant do like Thai people do, they prefer to claim instead. Its actually pathetic because it only makes Muay thai more popular and influential in Southeast Asia. See, Muay thai going to European game 2023 and soon Olympic 2028. Anyways, it all comes down to jealousy. Pretty much.
Even people like Thiago that Cambodian people are all promoting, learnt Muay thai in Thailand. He didnt learnt Muay thai in Cambodia. Not sure why Cambodian people are using him to promote Ku Khmer. Maybe there aint any goor Kun Khmer fighters from Cambodia
Karate is still Karate even if it allowed head kicks or not. MMA is still MMA whether it’s under UFC or Pride FC rules. It’s all the same thing. Don’t fall for the Jedi mind tricks. There’s so many fallacies in the nationalistic Thais’ arguments right now. It’s embarrassing. Not all Thais are like this though, just the ones on the internet or the extremists.
There are only a handful of moves in Lethwei, Muay Lao, Muay Thai, and Pradal Serey. There’s the roundhouse, the teep, jab, cross, hook, uppercut, knee, and elbow. Lethwei has the addition of a head butt. It’s all the same thing, do you see why now?
There are some variations with the way they do things, just like how the Philly Shell is different from other boxing styles. At the end of the day, they’re all South East Asian boxing styles. The slight variations in rules do not make it a different art altogether.
@@dirtmcgirt751Thiago is a shit Muay Thai fighter who was hungry for money and went to kun khmer. Now he left kun khmer, realizing its fucking shit for money lool.
But as far as I've read It's like they said that Muay Thai has the same roots as Khmer boxing. No one took anyone else's things, like two grandchildren learning skills from the same grandfather. Once learned, each side uses it. Khmer seems to retain almost all of its originality. But ours is very applied. But that doesn't mean we take Khmer things. We just have the same common ground. Theirs looks more like the original. So he assumed that we applied it from him. In fact, he is not the original owner. But each side learned from the original. Now Thailand has evolved Muay Thai, but the Cambodians are trying to steal the developed Muay Thai as their own, saying that he is the original. it makes me laugh A few years ago they came to Thailand and learned developed Muay Thai, took it back to Cambodia and said this is kun. perfect kmer and it belongs to Khmer🤣
Imagine that your ancestors have been practicing a martial art where you use 8 limbs for centuries. 400 years later, that’s a whole Ancient Rome lifespan later, Tai people come from Southern China into your land and change the spelling of their name to Thai. Your king allows them to stay but a century or so later they fight for independence, taking away most of your land. Fast forward to the 1970s. Your country is poor and as a result was never able to fight overseas, especially because of genocide.
Now imagine that these Thais advertise your martial arts as Muay Thai and effectively made it impossible to preserve your martial art since it’s called Muay THAI. Now imagine that whenever they have a TV special about your martial art (Pradal Serey or Kun Khmer), everyone laughs and just calls it Cambodian Muay Thai.
Then to add salt to the wound, imagine the Thai fabricating a story about Muay Boran, a modern word, to prove to the world that Muay Thai is original and derived from Muay Boran, and with no proof! Now imagine the whole world eats this story up and laughs at you when you say that your people have been practicing the exact same thing since as early as the 8th century AD, possibly earlier. That despite it making logical sense that the Thai were heavily influenced by Ancient Khmer, people still eat the Thai-centric stories up because they love “Thai” culture so much, and that’s the first thing they knew it as, so in a way it’s almost irreversible.
This is why Khmer people are salty. Don’t hate them for it. Maybe try to understand and draw your own conclusions. Just make sure you use logic and stay away from Thai history books!
P.S. I guess I can’t blame the Thais so much. With every generation, they don’t know what occurred in the past generations. Sooner or later it’s lost in history. They are raised to believe everything they do is Thai. At least some Thais acknowledge Khmer influence. These are the Thais I respect. It’s not even a nationalism thing for me. I just believe in real history, not fabricated nationalistic history. It looks bad because when we speak on it, it makes US look nationalistic.
Imagine its 2023 and Cambodian people are still learning fake history. Even the world all agrees Muay thai is the original one and Ku Khmer is a Muay thai knock offs. Many Cambodian people still deny it lol
RIP Thai netizens 😭🙏🏻 They're gonna rebuttal you with irrelevant and baseless arguments 😂😂
Thai is Siam people and live at Thailand more than 5,500 years. Khmer is Slave and under controlled by Siam more than 500years ago.
@@iROChakri That’s called bias. Since Muay Thai is a million times more popular, of course. Do you know about the illusion of truth effect in psychology?
@@ragequitter And its more popular because its the original that got exposed to the world?
There is no name changed. Muay Lao is Muay Lao. Kun Khmer is Cambodia martial arts; please don’t be confused.
Muay lao is Muay lao , Muay Thai is Muay Thai, Kun Khmer is Kun Khmer. The name of the three sports of the country. She doesn’t understand well
Exactly right, there are different of the Wai Kru, dressing and rule..
@@mdtalk2022 Can you tell me what's the difference between their rules?
@@cyperussaprus5846 Good question. the new entry did not have rules they just copy and paste, actually if they promote new name, mean they have to have different in rule, etc. if not they have to use Muay Thai becase every rules are similar to existing Muay Thai.
Karate is still Karate even if it allowed head kicks or not. MMA is still MMA whether it’s under UFC or Pride FC rules. It’s all the same thing. Don’t fall for the Jedi mind tricks. There’s so many fallacies in the nationalistic Thais’ arguments right now. It’s embarrassing. Not all Thais are like this though, just the ones on the internet or the extremists.
There are only a handful of moves in Lethwei, Muay Lao, Muay Thai, and Pradal Serey. There’s the roundhouse, the teep, jab, cross, hook, uppercut, knee, and elbow. Lethwei has the addition of a head butt. It’s all the same thing, do you see why now?
There are some variations with the way they do things, just like how the Philly Shell is different from other boxing styles. At the end of the day, they’re all South East Asian boxing styles. The slight variations in rules do not make it a different art altogether.
@@cyperussaprus5846Kun Khmer are very relax regarding how things are don in the ring: you can make your opponent fall as you like, not only with sweeps or throwing him. the clinch is much more extensive too, and the take downs are very extensive: most of the time, the referee takes back the fighter that's going out of the ring. Kun Khmer is much more savage.
I go to a gym that has a muay thai, kun khmer, and muay Lao. We get a really good mix of everything. I like it because you can take what works from the 3 for you best, and use that.
Tell me the differences in techniques on these 3 styles
@@iROChakri Difference is that Muay Lao and Kun Khmer is the real art, and Muay Thai is fake lol
@@NoLightMystery Oh yeah? Seems like Muay thai is finally getting world wide popular everywhere. If anything, the world see Muay Laos and Muay Cambodian as Muay thai 🤪
Glad that someone enjoyed the Southeast Asian martial Art. Mine is ប្រដាល់សេរី, judo,and Taekwondo.
Kun Khmer has a history over 2000 years ago. From the Funan to Chanla and Angkor Empire. The Loas and Thai are our younger brothers.
Angkor wat the Hindu temple from India then Kun Khmer was India martial art.?
@@meetsatit9213 Hinduism is a religion. Since the castle in Japan was built with Buddhist beliefs in mind, does that make Jiu Jitsu Indian too? What type of logic is that bruh?
Yes , you’re right * then the martial art on the Angkor wat ‘s wall doesn’t make Kun Khmer Cambodia too ! The Loas and Thai are Khmer younger brothers? What type of logic is that.?@@ragequitter
Muay Thai is real fighting.
Kun Khmer bokator is dancing not a fighting. Don't compare dancing and fighting.
Fake.
Why do I feel like the owners answer is abit bias about her opinion?
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Kun Khmer (Pradal Serey) is like Judo, while Muay Thai is like BJJ. Kun Khmer is the original, but Muay Thai is modern and better. While Pradal Serey was just chilling and competing with other Asians, Muay Thai went on a heavy marketing campaign like the Gracie’s did by starting UFC. Thais deserve the recognition they got, because they made Kun Khmer better. They made it famous. They fought with blood, sweat, and tears worldwide.
Kun Khmer is good if you want that authentic feel. Muay Thai is very modernized compared to Kun Khmer. It’s a question of learning something historic or learning something world class. Thai people are very modern people. Going back just a few hundred years, you will find that they are Chinese. Now they are mixed with Khmer blood though.
You ever hear a Chinese person speak Khmer? They sound Thai. Muay Thai definitely is its own thing now. Pradal Serey and Muay Thai look the same to people who don’t know, but if you know you know. They are quite different. Muay Thai is mixed with western boxing. Kun Khmer people can’t punch. Thais also evolved it with stuff like the question mark kick and other Taekwondo kicks. Muay Boran looks cool in movies but it’s all made up. Muay Thai is better than Muay Boran. No need to be flashy. Muay Thai works because it’s not bullshido like Muay Boran. Thais are going backwards right now. Instead of a useless martial art becoming useful, like Kung Fu to Sanda, they are going from useful to useless, efficient Muay Thai to now bullshido Muay Boran.
I have training a lot in boxing and mma in thaïland and Cambodia and the Muay Thai and khun Khmer look very similar ….It’s wrong to say than Khmer fighter cannot punch ,where I was training a lot of Khmer coach train also in western boxing .
ถ้าจะถามหาความคล้ายกัน มวยลาวดั้งเดิมจะคล้ายกับมวยโบราณของไทย แต่ชื่อมวยไทย เป็นการพัฒนาจากมวยโบราณให้มีการสร้างกฏกติกาสากล มันคิอทรัพย์สินทางวัฒนธรรมใหม่ แตกออกมาจากมวยโบราณของไทย มันเป็นเรื่องใหม่ที่ถูกสร้างขึ้นภายหลัง แต่นักมวยลาวมาชกกติกามวยไทยโดยมองไม่เข้าใจถึงความแตกต่าง ทำให้แยกแยะไม่ออก ไม่เข้าใจเรื่องที่ไทยปกป้องมวยไทยว่ามันคืออะไร ทั้งคนสัมภาษณ์และค่ายมวยทั้งนายกสหพันธ์มวยลาวต่างไม่เข้าใจเรื่องนี้
It's not belong to anyone, it's belong to each country. Why people eat the same rice? Fishes? Food? But one thing where this kind of fighting combat is originated from? All the three countries must show the evidence.
Glad that you are right! Just like Karate, Kung Fu, and Boxer!
kun khmer👍
Khun Khmer is Fake and copy Muay Thai. Khmers learn Muay Thai and rename to Khun Khmer, copy Muay Thai Handbook. Actually Angor-Wat is India marital art,not Khmer.
Kun Khmer is just Muaythai's Muay Sok (elbow emphasis) and Muay Khao (knee emphasis), that's it. Basically, Kun Khmer is just Muaythai in Cambodia, wearing Muay Thai short and use Muay Thai rules.
Thais copy everything.
Okay first no talk about kun khmer, let talk about mauy thai and mauy laos why the first name is same🤣🤣
มวยไทยคือมวยไทยพัฒนา_ส่งเสริมต่อไปตอนนี้ทั่วโลกรู้จักมวยไทย_ต่างคนต่างส่งเสริม_อย่าเคลม_สักวันจะบรรจุในโอลิมปิค_มวยไทย
The official departments of Cambodia and Laos haven't even published their sport's rules, but keep saying 'the rules is similar to muaythai'. We can't find any detailed rules of muay lao or kun khmer on the Internet, how can we support you?😅
Thai rule : foreigner fighter need ko to win thai. If not thai will win. Judgment so baise
Karate is still Karate even if it allowed head kicks or not. MMA is still MMA whether it’s under UFC or Pride FC rules. It’s all the same thing. Don’t fall for the Jedi mind tricks. There’s so many fallacies in the nationalistic Thais’ arguments right now. It’s embarrassing. Not all Thais are like this though, just the ones on the internet or the extremists.
There are only a handful of moves in Lethwei, Muay Lao, Muay Thai, and Pradal Serey. There’s the roundhouse, the teep, jab, cross, hook, uppercut, knee, and elbow. Lethwei has the addition of a head butt. It’s all the same thing, do you see why now?
There are some variations with the way they do things, just like how the Philly Shell is different from other boxing styles. At the end of the day, they’re all South East Asian boxing styles. The slight variations in rules do not make it a different art altogether.
The lady is right. It belongs not to one nation but all three.
Okay first no talk about kun khmer, let talk about mauy thai and mauy laos why the first is same🤣🤣
muay lao is muay lao. kun khmer is kun khmer. khmer people only ask for respect and i think both countries have shown each other respect and love. cambodia is not going to ban muay lao or any sports, because there is an understanding“sports unite nations together”. even if that nation hates us😂( like our neighboring country on the left).
Thailand doesn't ban muaylao and lethwei but we do ban kun khmer and we have the reason😊
So much misinformation.
Thai and Lao change the name of cambodian sport.
Khun Khmer= Copy Muay Thai and Muay Thai Handbook to rename to Khun Khmer... Shame ,👎
So do you think Burma and Laos copied Muay Thai too? Funny because Burma and Cambodia was there a couple thousand years before the Tai arrived in the late Middle Ages (fleeing from the Mongol hoards)
@@ragequitterKhun Khmer is Fake and copy Muay Thai. Khmers learn Muay Thai and rename to Khun Khmer, copy Muay Thai Handbook. Actually Angor-Wat is India marital art,not Khmer.
Muay Thai is fake that they lie you for many year , now Kun Khmer is the original that recognized by UNESCO
You are correct.
Wrong in everyway only dumb claimbodian would believe it😂😂😂
No.. The modern-day Kun Khmer is the direct copy of MuayThai. The rules, the technique, the stage, the music, and many more. The real Kun khmer was lost long time ago. If you really have your own martial art like Mauy Lao or Lethwei. Not the single Thai will rage about this.
Khun Khmer is Fake and copy Muay Thai. Khmers learn Muay Thai and rename to Khun Khmer, copy Muay Thai Handbook. Actually Angor-Wat is India marital art,not Khmer.
Muay just means martial arts. Muay Thai just means Thai martial arts. Muay Thai is the modern system of rules they fight under. The fighting style itself can vary depending on your lineage. Like Muay Khao for knee style, or sok for elbow focus fighting. Muay boran is just ancient martial arts to describe old lineage fighting style. If you want to include all Southeast Asian countries, you can call the game MUAY ASEAN. Meaning southeast asian martial arts. Kun khmer is its own system. Bokator is an ancient military fighting system. To call an asean game kun khmer is stupid and exclusive. Don't know of any elite khmer fighter on the world stage for it to warrant itself representation for ASEAN sports. Muay Thai has earned that representation for producing elite fighters and being on the world stage.
Thai mean , Thai yai ,Thai esarn ,Thai udon, Thai lao,Thai Tai
#claimbodia
cope harder
Kunkhmer or prodal sery is better Mouy thai and Mouy Lao. Kun khmer is older .
Where is world's champion or Olympic medals for boxing? Kun khmer have them?
Nah. Muay Thai is real fighting.
Kun Khmer bokator is dancing not a fighting. Don't compare dancing and fighting.
Khun Khmer is Fake and copy Muay Thai. Khmers learn Muay Thai and rename to Khun Khmer, copy Muay Thai Handbook. Actually Angor-Wat is India marital art,not Khmer.
Kun khmer is only in LAO and Cliambodia.
The irony is Thais are claiming SEA boxing as Muay Thai. SEA boxing existed in SEA way before the Thais arrived in the 14th century AD. Bruh, that’s the f***ing late Middle Ages 💀 Thais were super late to the party.
I hate to sound racist because I love the Thai people, but for the sake of the argument, I must call the bs
Khun Khmer is Fake and copy Muay Thai. Khmers learn Muay Thai and rename to Khun Khmer, copy Muay Thai Handbook. Actually Angor-Wat is India marital art,not Khmer.
She is right. Cambodians can call Muay thai, Kun Khmer. "Kun Khmer" in Khmer means "Muay thai from Thailand". In the end, its known as Muay (Thai) around the world because it is originated in Thailand. Thai people taught Muay thai to Cambodia since a 1000 years ago ie Dvaraviti 6th centaury, way before Khmer empire was born.
Moreover, Kun Khmer was never registered in UNESCO. Cambodian people tried but got rejected because the world knows Cambodian people call Muay thai as Kun Khmer. Thats why its Bokator registered instead under "dancing" category.
If only UNESCO verified Muay Thai instead of mango sticky rice 😋😅
@@TM-hd5iv But why would UNESCO verify Muay thai when Thailand never submited it? For what? Muay thai is popular worldwide and it doesnt need "safe guarding" 🤔
@@iROChakri UNESCO registered Thai Massage and 5 dollar sucky sucky, good job.
Yes,bro. Muay Thai is original,not Khmer.😂
Don’t Thai to me and the world ! Siamese lived in Khmer land in 13 century . And don’t talk daravathi, you can lie those who don’t care only. Shameful that Siamese like to lie and manipulate facts
Muay Thai copy from Kun Khmer and Muay Lao🤭
Can you tell me: Ruler influence colonial or colonial influence the ruler? Who was colonised >400 years by Thailand.
No .Since ancient time Thai people can fight effectively using their effective fighting skill.
Khun Khmer is Fake and copy Muay Thai. Khmers learn Muay Thai and rename to Khun Khmer, copy Muay Thai Handbook. Actually Angor-Wat is India marital art,not Khmer.
@@MrUngolawrong. Using their affective bitching skills.
@@billfahchannel934 Muay copy
Okay first no talk about kun khmer, let talk about mauy thai and mauy laos why the first is same🤣🤣
Okay first no talk about kun khmer, let talk about mauy thai and mauy laos why the first is same🤣🤣