Give Me an Answer -
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- Cliffe Knechtle has a great conversation with college students at a campus in the southwest US.
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
I could listen to cliffe all day .
I do! :)
I too..
Me too
True!
Mee too
I understand where this kid is coming from. Love how Cliff spoke and really get to the root of this young mans hurt with the “church”.
Hear that guy laugh when the kid said he read a really wise tweet? Gold.
Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.”
That kid is honest, I like him.
The kid is lost... He's still a nice kid though.
Yeah! Honestly lost, jk hes koo
this was great. cliff did an amazing job with love patience and grace.
Cliffe is awesome. praise God for him
Give me a break. Cliffe is the most awful apologist i've ever had the misfortune to see. Try putting him against an informed intelligent adult, like Matt Dillahunty, and he gets mauled. This has actually happened. And I'm not an atheist and Cliffe would make most believers cringe with his inane reasoning.
Give me a break. Cliffe is the most awful apologist i've ever had the misfortune to see. Try putting him against an informed intelligent adult, like Matt Dillahunty, and he gets mauled. This has actually happened. And I'm not an atheist and Cliffe would make most believers cringe with his inane reasoning.
spex76com Matt is an idiot.
@@spex76matt got picked apart, i watched the whole thing.
Wonderful to listen to Brother Cliffe to learn how to think wisely. Praise the LORD!
May the LORD continuelly bless you Sir, your family and your Ministry that the LORD has given you in Jesus' Mighty Name, Amen.
God bless you Sir.
Psalms 100:5
For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.
That young man was all over the place. Argument sound erratic.
Cliff has great patience
He said "I don't know" a whole lot for a guy in a debate.
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@@jelly7310 cliffe answered all his questions though.
I'm trying to learn to the T, including your hand gestures. How Jesus lived, his teachings, how he died not cursing his enemies and 3 days after he died he rose from the dead and over a period of 40 days was seen by over 500 people. That statement gets me each and every time! Thank you Mr. Cliffe! GOD BLESS!
Lol _"seen by over 500 people"_ you say .
NAME THEM ?? where are their testimonies ?? You see you don't have 500 witnesses at all, what you have is "Paul" claiming he was told that 500 people saw him. That's what's known as "hearsay" which is so unreasonable it is not even admittable into court.
You could not be convicted of shoplifting based upon hearsay, yet you expect me to believe supernatural claims of virgin births, talking snakes, tribes of giants, magic, Angel's, mud figurines becoming living breathing man and a rib becoming a woman based on *THIS* 😂🤣😅😂🤣😅😂🤣😅
@@trumpbellend6717 so what you're saying is that George Washington never existed because you don't believe he wasn't seen by 500 people.
@@PokeMaster03 wow what NONSENCE upon so many different levels firstly there is a vast amount of evidence for George Washington, including laws and treaties he wrote, portraits he sat for all corroborated by people from around the world. 🤣😅🤣 Secondly evidence of some wandering delude Jewish rabbi called jesus existing would be completely mundane and unimportant. It is the supernatural attributes that he is claimed to have possessed that require evidence.
If someone were to tell me they had a dog in their garden I would require very little evidence to find this plausible and possibly true.
If they were to claim they had the rarest most expensive dog in the world my level of evidence required to be sufficient to warrant belief would increase dramatically.
But if theh were to say that had a DRAGON in their garden this is an extraordinary claim and thus would require extraordinary evidence.
No amount of hearsay evidence would be sufficient ( nevermind if it were placed in a 2000 year old unsigned book )
Christian's often use this same false analogy but citing Alexander the great instead of George Washington that also fails for precisely the same reason.
Now if you have EXTRAORDINARY evidence to match to extraordinary claims of a talking snake & donkey, tribes of giants, magic, witches, Angel's, virgin birth, zombies, mud figurines becoming men and rib becoming woman, all governed by an invisible man in the sky who says that the gathering of sticks on the sabbath is a crime worthy of death and that you should *"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"*
THEN PLEASE PRESENT IT..........
I'm waiting with baited breath 😴😴😴😴
@@trumpbellend6717 I can't believe you took the time to write all of that as for the evidence for Jesus, there's plenty of evidence. You just don't want to look for them. You want everyone to give you evidence instead of looking for them.
@@PokeMaster03 lol well firstly according to 1st Peter 3 : 15 your should be more than happy to present the evidence and do it _"with gentleness & respect"_
However your inability or unwillingness to do so more that adequately demonstrates both the absurdity and dishonesty of your position for all to see.
Absoutley!!!! The Laws of Logic presuppose the existence of God. The evidence is in all creation and you! Shalom in Jesus Name
Are they referring to Joel O'Steen?
Paul Rizzo lol yep
This made me LOL!!
I like this one because the event wasnt like most of the events that Im used to viewing on this channel. Usually you have someone opposing or engaging in a debate. this seemed like a young man who doesn't know where hes going, try to find some answers. The beginning of a James 5:20 moment "remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins." I hope this young man comes back to Christ and bears fruit and seeks after God and the Truth of the Gospel.
I also think its cool how it turns into a questionaire and constructive criticism talk IN FRONT OF a bunch of other college students who feel the same way, have the same questions, but may be to shy to step up and ask.
God Bless
Bejan Amer
2024 started last year watching cliffe does his work, by preaching the gospel in an intelligent way✝️❤️
I love the way you make the people think and let the Holy Spirit allow to work, praise the Lord Jesus Christ.
What a ton of respect I have for Cliffe.
Thank You Cliffe and the crew i really needed the last message of this video it got me back on Feet ~~! Again Thanks goes all the way to You Jesus
Isaiah 44:24
“Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by mysel
I would
The free will argument has all to do with sin. We are giving freedom to make choices but in regards to sin Bible tells us that all mankind is a slave to sin and thus, no free will
There is no such thing as SIN only moral and immoral actions. The perceived whims of anyone's imaginary friend are irrelevant in any discussion of morality.
@@trumpbellend6717 immoral actions are sin, the disbelief of heathens does not change that.
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Lol there is no such thing as SIN only moral and immoral actions. Transgressions against the perceived whims of YOUR SUBJECTIVE invisible God are irrelevant in any discussion of morality dear
@@JohnjOcampo
The perceived whims of Yahweh are no more relevant than those of Thor, Zeus, Allah, Mithrah, Dionysius or a thousand other invisible magic men in the sky
@@trumpbellend6717 They are very much relevant when groups of people through out history have been punished by God for the evil they manifested in their own societies.
Take a look at Sodom and Gomorrah, God rained sulfur onto them for the atrocities they were committing, today we can still see the balls of sulfur burning with no volcano in site.
God bless you sir. I hope that one day I can stand as firm in Christ as you do and gain the wisdom to help others to come to God.
Believing and accepting Jesus is not a religion in and of itself. Yes you are a Christian but you don't need to be a Catholic Christian and Eastern Orthodox Christian a Protestant Christian. You can simply be Christian without being affiliated with anything else.
His Argument was broken down and he still goes on
Just like so many of us! Only God is wholly consistent.
I hope that kid got saved sounded like he was really lost.
TRUTH + GIFT = JESUS CHRIST 🙌 🙏🏽 😍 💖 ❤️ 💕
I wouldn't be surprised if this young gentleman returns to Christ. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if this conversation played a big part in it.
I actually don't even believe he rejected Jesus. It sounds like he rejected Christian hypocrisy. He just wasn't able to separate the two.
As a calvanist, either that young man was simply visiting a reformed church, or that man's church did him a huge disservice intellectually and spiritually.
Evident not only by his misunderstanding of the doctrine of predestination (some born for heaven, others born for hell. Only by God granting faith does one come to Christ), but his lack of knowledge of the multitude of scriptures that back that idea.
Anyone who things the doctrine of predestination teaches that all things are predestined and thus we are all robots simply hasn't taken more than a day to actually research what the doctrine teaches. 🤦♂️
It's hard to think of any claim that conflicts with my personal experience more than Cliff's claim that "Love, in order to be real, must be free". Of everyone I've ever loved, not once did that result from a decision on my part. Every time I've tried to choose not to love somebody, not once have I been successful.
You seem like a real great person chad! I do not see how Cliffe’s claim conflicts with your experience at all however. If you love everyone and ask for nothing from everyone, than your love is freely given! This is how it should be, praise God!
Sin is real and a lot of people are deceived by Satan. So it will be harder to find a saved person who practices the love of God through Jesus Christ. Notice I said harder, not impossible. Don’t give up on God. This is what you don’t do: compromise your faith in Christ just to have someone. Christians often make that mistake: getting involved with unbelievers just to have a spouse.
Amen!
Once I tried this ‘What are you living for?’ with an atheist, and he said, “I just live for simple things like enjoying spending time with my wife and boys.” It kind of floored me as it was such a sweet humble answer.
Hi... Can I ask why you were floored? Can you give more details.
Also I'm curious as to what you said in reply.
If you don't mind, thanks.
Thy will Be done, because most atheists are too proud to answer this question. I can’t remember how I answered as it was awhile back. 😇
Thank you for the swift reply..
(no pun intended) but I was floored when I looked down at my phone and you had replied. Lol.
Thy will Be done Haha thanks.
John 5:19
“Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”
This has such a 90s intro to it
This is why Jesus is coming back
I liked the debate partner a lot. He asks good questions and i can see his point entirely. One thing I like to advise people with his or a similar world view is - try it. Put the gospel into practice. You don't have anything to lose (except for maybe 5 minutes a day). No "thinking atheist" (I mean not the militant, hateful ones, but the moderates, thoughtful) says "I'm 100% sure god doesn't exist and nobody can ever convince me otherwise." So you can just kneel down, say out loud, whisper, or just in your head "Hey there, Jesus, God, whatever, I don't know if you exist, but if you do, please give me a sign." Or something similar. Listen to some people maybe, who are convinced christians (I came to faith via Prof. John Lennox' speeches and debates and some more stuff).
People come to faith and believe in different ways. I'm the more scientific, pragmatic kind of person, I like a coherent theory, that is applicable to life and all scenarios. Some people (especially girls, as far as my experience goes) are more influenced by their heart, they have to "feel" that something is true. I had friends of mine saying things like: "Yeah that all sounds pretty logical, but as of now I cannot believe it, it doesn't fully convince me."
And I believe, that god will come to you exactly the way you need it, if you just ask and try.
Good video.
God isn’t a theory. Evolution is a theory. The Big Bang is a theory, but God isn’t a theory. With God faith covers for those who don’t have an intellectual background in logic. Abraham had faith because he experienced God. “ But without faith, it is impossible to please Him. He who comes to God must believe He is and that He rewards those who diligently seek Him.” Hebrews 11:6.
Truth suppression needs to be brought up.
Not everyone can understand that they did not nor do not create their own morality, which baffles me.
You can choose how you understand any given moral action or whether or not to hold onto any given moral action but you learned what morality was because you learned or did not learn about any given moral action.
You can create as well "it is moral acceptable to chew gum" or "it's not morally acceptable to drink water in a plastic cup" but my friend, do not kill, steal or lie was written thousands of years ago.
read the gospels amir!!
Truth is controlling but with Grace very influential.
The first guy contradicted himself. Saying that a person belongs to a religion because most likely they were born into it, therefore thinking that theirs is the right way. But.....yet....he CHOSE to not follow the religion he was born into
at 21:22 the video is a little bit broken
a little too much xD
The more I watch these videos the more I get the gospel message in which
Jesus says only a wicked generation needs signs...I guess that's our
generation :-( There's so much evidence in the human experience and life
its scary for the existence of a God that its scary. Love, sacrifice,
unnecessary beauty in nature....
For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.
15In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed;
16Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction,
17That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man.
18He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword.
Great video. I would say don't follow false Christianity. A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ and also means to be "Christ-like." Followers during Biblical times and in the 1st-3rd century were called either Christians or disciples (Acts 11:25-26). A disciple is follower of Christ and devots his or her life to Christ and living the lifestyle of Christ. Yes don't follow false Christianity but follow Christ and we can't let what hypocrites and people who claimed to be a Christian but their actions not measuring up hinder us from following Jesus and who Jesus was when we walked this earth and is every single day. Jesus is the way the truth and the life and he is about love and loves us all and tells us to love others no matter what ethnic background, gender, sex or how the person looks or what they believe in. Love conquers all.
Joel O.?
Wonderful video
The challenge of young people to think is great, starting out with the denial of God is not fair, they limit themselves to the super natural , they will soon find out that there are many things that can not be explained naturally.
Ahhh drat the video begins corrupting at the best part
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
He doesn't want to pay for GOD. GOD paid for YOU💕
“What i feel is right...” well that’s hedonism. But what he’s trying to say is he knows something is guiding him morally regardless of what he believes- its called the conscience
Again regarding the first guy a pastor who had young people go off to college come back and say I don’t believe that anymore the first question he would ask them is, what is her name. One of the reasons why this young man couldn’t make himself believe anymore is he love to send too much
Send what?
How can morals be useful if humanity itself has no purpose or value?
If man puts value on someone or something it’s out of selfishness. God is the One who puts value on people. We are extremely valuable to God and His love constrains Him NOT to force Himself on us. “ But God demonstrates His own love towards us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us.” Romans 5:8.
Numbers 6:24-26,
Deute. 28, Joshua 1:7-8
Matthew 6:9-15 & 12:31-32
Romans 10:9-13,
1 Corinthians 13:9-13,
That's my thing about Cliffe that I am not able to get on board with and that is that we need proof of that we should study all the different religions in order to find out which one is right but wait, did Paul, Peter or John need to study all other religions in order to believe?
What did Jesus say to Thomas, Jesus rejected the idea that man needs to have proof in order to believe in Him. "You believe because you see but blessed are they that believe and have not seen "! FAITH, not proof, not proof!!!
21:30 lol data moshing
extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.
Really and these are collage students
It is so ridiculous that someone would think that there is no creator or god or god like being that we are so unnatural to any law or or nature force of how we are made because we can manipulate anything we have proof but blood 🩸 bone 🦴 not been proven yet and the thing to religion or having faith that there is a being that set some life rules that we should follow is also a bit unordinary for the reason that why and how make all colors of human beings at least animals can some what look the same just the fur is different but so identical well I won’t get so much into yet ask him what or which are the first or the originals or what the ones that were living at the beginning black white or brown and what could be the reason for that and do you believe in the world that they lived in
FREEDOM is one of the MOST precious gifts from the Creator, Human beings are created as a free, spiritual being.
At the same time, however; they have received responsibility from God, for freedom requires self-discipline and self-restraint.
Freedom cannot exist apart from the law.
In the universe, physical law and spiritual law are at work, and they ultimately restrict freedom. For instance, it is your freedom to jump from the top of a hotel. But this free action results in self-destruction because it goes against the natural law.
^^,
RSMM,
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this video is so glitchy whyyy
Cuz they are in a matrix. lol
22:09 ------>22:20
Reference to hear say of a credible source
you should do another debate Cliff
difficult to agreed if you aren't prepared to see that we humans are creations. and how a creation respond to his creator the way he is? ho has the answer first?
the concept of "GOD knows everything before a person does it" , it's not so , let me explain why i say this ....
in Elohim great wisdom , "HE decided" to give men "free will" , no one is a robot or slaved against his/hers own will .
now , GOD "knows" exactly the consequences of the choices of men , but even when He loves all people , He will not force anyone to go against his/her will .
this is why us "followers of Y'shua" , "Christians" , we strugle in our daily life as to be consistent and obedient to Jesus/God because of the consequences of our decisions , BUT , in contrast to anyone who does not care about their spiritual life with the "Creator" , we have "ONE" who we can go to in any problem or circumstance , the decision is yours my friends .
Wow so much garbage in one comment,
lol freewill so just how did that work out for pharaoh when he wanted to let the jews go but GOD HARDENED HIS HEART , because he wanted to have a bit more fun first. You know a few more plagues , babies to kill ect.
Or how about Peter and the whole " you will deny me 3 times before the cock crows" stuff . Did he not have a say in the matter, could he not change his mind ?
You see this is the problem you cant have free will if the future is predetermined or if god interferes with people's decisions as he does many times In the bible.
Think of all these hundreds of so called prophesies in the bible , you have surely heard of the BUTTERFLY EFFECT were one tiny tiny change in an action has huge earth shattering implications for the future. Well if we truly had freewill then those aforementioned prophecies are out the window
anyone wanna lemme know what that texas thing they were talking about? Does it start with the letter "L" and rhymes with Bake Food ?
Cliff probably has Joel Osteen and Jessie Duplantis in mind. Mainly, the TBN health-wealth-and-prosperity teachers, several of which are in Texas.
not sure bebang, where abouts in the world are you from?, I'm in the UK
What cliffe leaves out of all his smack, kick or punch him is the consequences of that action. If its my one life I live for whatever I choose.
'I'm an athiest because there's not enough evidence"
Oh I see, so you analyzed the Gospels' historicity, psychology, scholarly analysis, the origins of each book, how ACTS was compiled, how early these documents were compiled compared to other narratives such as Alexander the Great, what the enemies of Christ said of him, what convinced Saul of Tarsus to stop persecuting Jesus' followers and follow him himself, etc?
"No."
historical accuracy of the bible has *ZERO* relevance to its authenticity. Even if the bible were written by mere ordinary superstitious primative tribesmen. They would still know about towns , places, people , leaders kings ect . That's the very LEAST we would expect.
Herodotus wrote about life in 500bc he spoke of real people and places does that mean his works are inspired of god ??? Of course not .
If some future archeological dig discovered the ruins of New York and the empire state building would they be justified in thinking *KING KONG* was therfore real ???? Nonsense.
There is no archeological evidence for anything supernatural only the normal mundane stuff we find with everything else.
Almost every fictional book ever written will contain references to real places and people even Harry Potter it means nothing.
However if there were historical INACCURACIES (and there are lots ) that's a different story.
When was jesus born for example ? Because the historical evidence disagrees alarmingly with the bible on that for starters .
Quirinius's census for example we know conclusively did not occur until 6 ad not 3 years before the death of herod but several years after. And yes I know there was more than one herod, I can go into detail if you like about how we know exactly which one it was and can cross reference with Mathew ect.
You DO NOT even know who wrote the scriptures. The names mathew mark luke and john are merely names assigned many years later as a matter of church tradition.
They talk in the third person and Non are contemporary The first manuscripts we have ARE NOT within 60 years of the time J.C. The P52 fragment of the gospel of John is the size of credit card is dated 125-175 ( although recent research puts the dat closer to 200 AD )
Take a look at the very first passage in luke he makes it very clear he was not an eye witness he says ( I'm paraphrasing from memory )
"There have been many different accounts over the years , I have looked into it and this is what I have concluded happened "
How about non biblical witnesses?
Let's take a look at them shall we.
*Thalus*
Lol no one even knows when he was writing about he was first quoted by theophilus of Antioch in 185 AD
And is often linked with jesus merely because he mentions judea going dark.
Apologists think this is a description of an eclipse at at jesus's crucifixion.
however THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE as this event is supposed to have occurred at passover. But an eclipse cannot occur at Passover when the moon is full and therefore diametrically opposite the Sun 😂😂
All you have is someone saying that at some time judea went dark lol
*pliny the younger*
He wrote in AD 112 some 80 years after any supposed jesus lived.
And he most certainly does not attest to any miraculous events whatsoever.
But rather about how he should deal with the early Christian's whom the Roman's called *ATHEISTS* he said of them that his investigations have revealed nothing on the Christians' part but harmless practices and *"depraved, excessive superstition."*
*suetonius*
In his biography he refers to agitations in the Roman Jewish community and the expulsion of Jews from Rome by Claudius during his reign. which christians CLAIM may be the expulsion mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles.
Well I hate to tell you this but you do realise that there were LOTS of agitation in the roman jewish community at that time.Have you heard of the JEWISH WARS?
Again no mention of any miracles or anything supernatural whatsoever.
Merely conformation that the were CHRISTIANS in those days , which no one denied.
Exactly the same applies to the others none were contemporary some living 150 years later. And they have nothing but hearsay with things such as " the jews believe this happened "
*SO WHAT* you can speak to THOUSANDS of living witnesses living NOW. Who will attest that they have been kidnapped by aliens.
They all tell very similar stories and can be questioned and yet these claims are regarded as false.
Because we know that the VERY LEAST RELIABLE form of evidence is witness testimony , ask any lawyer.
But you dont even have that you have hearsay at best that is not even admitted in court. And you want me to believe in talking snakes and donkeys giants witches and zombies based on THIS ??? 😂😂😂😂
Another Great Video Cliffe.
I literally found out the hard way that Jesus is God Almighty that others wouldn't have to. ❤❤❤
People don’t get the question that Cliffe asks about not believing God because there is not enough evidence, but then they don’t know what he is talking about when he asks what their evidence is for what they put their faith in, for what they are living for. They just don’t want to accept moral absolutes.
At least this kid was not disrespectful to Cliff like a lot of these loud mouth fools I see on Cliff's videos.
If you want to be a saint (free from evil )you believe in your God ,our Lord Jesus Christ.
The world was made through Jesus Christ. Genesis 1.26 and John 1. Sin has deformed us but Jesus came to transform the body, soul, and the spirit. One day Jesus will be rule with saints and evil people will be in hell. see www.gotquestions.org
(yawns) The I'm too smart to believe in God .
This kid is a robot or wants to be one
Can anyone give evidence towards once saved always saved, I know Mark 3:28,29 about blaspheming the Holy Sprit, (Need evidence supporting)
It is a false doctrine. Osas isn't biblical. But I would investigate for yourself.
How many times does God say we are born again? Once. If you are truly born again you can't be "'unborn". If you are truly saved you will live a life pleasing to God. You will always fall short of the glory of God but you're forgiven through the work of Jesus Christ on the cross. I think you are talking about people that told you they were saved but continue living like they did before they were saved. People take the once saved always saved deal out of context. If a person claims to be saved but refuses to turn away from their old sinful ways, they weren't really saved. A person that is really saved will turn away and make the best effort possible to follow Christ. You can't lose your salvation because you are forgiven. In order to receive the salvation to begin with you must believe that Jesus died on that cross for all of our sins and rose again on the third day. People can say they believe that but if they really don't they aren't saved. They won't turn (repent) away from their old life. I struggled with true repentance myself thinking I was saved as a teenager. I thought it was just me repenting of my sins that I already committed. I didn't understand repentance. I do now, tho. Once a person is truly saved by repentance and complete faith in God they won't lose their salvation. If they go back to the "old man" talked about in the bible, they weren't saved to begin with. I hope this makes sense, I'm no theologian or writer so forgive my grammar and run on sentences. God bless.
The first guy that came back to this he did not have a love of the truth. The truth being Jesus Christ he had no love for him hence it was easy for him to just walk away from it
Poor kid. Hummana, hummana, hummana.
Read creating Christianity by atwill.
Westboro Baptist cult!
Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
A blind or an illiterate person would be really interested in going to heaven but what evidence he could be given! So it comes to faith and God's grace and not your knowledge. see www.gotquestions.org
i love tht website
Carl Sagan gave a good example of why standards of evidence shift based on the type of claim being made. I'll loosely base my example on it.
Scenario 1) A friend of yours whom you have a long history with, whom you trust based on their past actions (they've built a reputation) - they claim to you that they were just on the freeway and the traffic is terrible. Most people choose to accept this claim is true without further investigation or verification. Why? Because that person is trustworthy, if the claim is wrong you don't stand to lose much, you can't see any motivation for them to lie, and the claim doesn't violate your model of the world (it doesn't require you to accept that laws of physics have been broken or something bizarre - it's easy to accept because you know traffic can exist).
Scenario 2) The SAME EXACT trustworthy friend claims there is a fire-breathing and flying dragon in their garage. This violates your understanding of reality. Therefore his testimony doesn't carry the same weight as it did before. Most people need more evidence for this type of claim.
Religion is the same way. They ask for you to believe things that violate your model of reality and are not based on anything other than "some people get a feeling" or "an ancient book says so." The standard of evidence goes up for claims about virgin births, talking snakes, resurrections, and immortality because there is no evidence that any of that is possible.
Take for example the story of Sampson and Delilah. The characters in the story do not at all behave in a way we'd expect normal people to behave. After the 2nd or 3rd time Sampson lies about where his strength comes from, and the 2nd or 3rd time his enemies come attempt that thing he said to Delilah in private, you'd think Sampson would be a moron to keep telling Delilah stuff and Delilah would be a moron to keep believing Sampson... And yet that is what the story tells us is what happened. In addition to that bizarre behavior, we are to believe that a man gets magical super human strength because of his long hair. Sounds like a myth to me.
Many Christians and atheists argue over whether or not the gospels were eye-witness and contemporary accounts, but it's totally irrelevant. We have contemporary eye-witness accounts for alien abductions! Does that mean they are true?!? Well, we certainly shouldn't believe it until there is better evidence than just "Gary said he saw aliens..." or "Mark said Jesus was born of a virgin... even though I'm not sure how he could be sure of that..."
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The young man keep saying he was a Christian🤔 he was never a Christian. 1st John 2:19.
I pray he Really thinks about what he heard today when he lays his head down on his pillow.
I'm sorry I have no clue what these people are saying. They don't sound like they have any convincing evidence and so use words to insult you as if you are not intelligent🤦🏾♂️
He wants his sin.
Of course you should not agree with Christian hypocrites or hypocritical religions but that doesn't give you an excuse for your individual choice to follow Christ or not.
You can't believe in God because the bible answers all our questions? What?
Christ has written records concerning him. He is the final answer to all.
In heaven the holy angels, the devil and his followers (before they chose evil) were in the presence of God, albeit veiled. Veiled far less than us. They rejected God still. Humans who say show us your existence, which God did in the person of Jesus Christ, they did just like in heaven among the angels, some believed and some didn't.
How do you know?
@@dperkins01 For some reason I feel you are trolling me. But if you are seriously asking, I know from praying, reading God's word and Him revealing the truth. Then with that truth, I can analyze what other's have written to see if it aligns with what God has revealed.
Cliff 's great but, he uses mainstream narratives, "historical" lies to build a case for Christ! It's a horrible idea! 😫He attempts to lead people to truth, using lies, therefore anyone whose seeking and then begins dig deep, may be once again, disheartened! Jesus never did that, nor should we!
1) He asks what evidence would make someone believe the stories in the bible are true. There IS NO SUPPORTING evidence, just a little bit would be nice.
2) What do I believe instead and why? That is superimposing the necessity to believe in something a god maybe? I am happy to reject god myths without having to state a belief (faith) in something else. Strawman argumentation!!!!
3) You might think that slapping someone is OK if you don't believe in god but that is not the case, there are plenty of countries that are essentially atheistic that are good places to live. We humans have empathy and know right from wrong. The bible is not a good place to look to get a right/wrong decision.
4) You do not need dogma in order to make ethical decisions. The Christian community is split over whether sexual equality is ethical or how to treat homosexuals, the Christian community does not use the bible for ethics.
5) Do unto others as they would have done to you was stolen from Confucius, it pre-dates Jesus and has total relevance. That is why using that I can say that I completely disagree with slavery, a christian relying on their dogma CANNOT stand against another Christian quoting scripture who want to keep slaves.
6) So Cliffe, why are all people born in to varying religions convinced theirs is the true religion? If any religions answers your question on purpose is it true?
7) Answer the question Cliffe, how do you know which variation of Christianity is correct? Who are you to say that those people in Texas making money are not doing so with God's blessing?
8) You deplore The crusades, The inquisition, The Salem witch trials, Gay Bashing,The WestBoro church.... THEY ALL HAVE SCRIPTURE ON THEIR SIDE.
9) I challenge you to read the sermon on the mount for yourself people. Jesus says he is not here to change the law but fulfil it but then changes lots of laws including a very divisive law on divorce, which most countries agree is wrong.
cliffe does not give answers, he debates, not the same thing but he is good at it!!
What is "good"?
j2mfp78
Sorry which of my nine points are you addressing?
+170221dn without God there is no objective good. Whats good to you is subjective how can you argue with doneone else that your subjective good is correct and theres isnt? its basicly opinion.
1) There is historical and archeological evidence if you want it. 2) You do believe things everyone does, but do you have a reason to logically believe what you do. 3) God gives us a conscience. 4) Yes and no Christians get things wrong, but the correct understanding of God leads us to truth. 5) Yes he can. WE are called to rightly divide scripture. Taking things in context one can provide clear biblical support against slavery (if the slavery you are talking about is the one practiced by the early American colonies). 6) I don't understand 7) He reads the bible. 8)No they don't. I don't think you are Stalin and would kill millions like him because you are both athiests. 9) Read the whole new testament and you would understand. The bible is a whole book treat it like any other book. I can't say I understand Moby Dick if I only read a chapter. Same with the bible.
j2mfp78
"!without God there is no objective good."
Don't be so stupid. God killed nearly every human on earth on a whim, is attempted genocide good then?
He ordered Joshua to kill an entire nation, is actual genocide good then?
He set up the rules for slavery, is slavery good then?
He instigated gender discrimination, is that good then?
Don't be ridiculous, you no more get your knowledge of right and wrong from the god than you get water from a stone.
"its basicly opinion."
to an extent it is, but us evolved homo sapiens have a society where we have known about concepts like the golden rule going back before Jesus was even a figment in an imagination. THAT is the source of our morality.
Slavery, rape, murder, genocide, homophobia, ALL 100% on the menu for someone claiming to get their morality from the collection of stories put together to make up the bible.
I enjoy watching these, but Jesus' instructions for Evangelism was go out, heal the sick, cast out demons, I wonder how this fits in with this approach
Apologetics which Cliff is engaged on definitely helped me stay with Christianity due to deeper philosophical explanation of the concept of God. This type of study has been a true eye opener for me.
That is part of it, but the bible tells us give an answer to anyone who asks us about the hope that we have in Christ. We need to share the good news of Christ from the bible. God gave us a mind to know Him so using it to correctly understand Him is very important. We need to rightly divide the word.
Cliffe is awful, arrogant and nasty. He seems to think he has the upper hand when hes harrasing kids, but when he debates adults he gets destroyed. Also his poses are hysterical.
If Jesus actually existed how do we know he said what was actually attributed to him? No one was with him on several occasions, the temptation in the desert for example. There are so many conflicting reports and 'gospels' that you could take them all with a pinch of salt and not lose any sleep. Any God that could let someone be born into a different culture or religion and then punish them for eternity isn't worth my praise!
***** you hurt me.
Ask Cliffe can also be read as Ask Life.
Crap
Cliff always strawmans opponents. He has no arguments to justify his positions so he belittles his own version of his opponents positions.
Cliffe answered every question with great respect, don't let your cowardice get in the way of the truth.