Chuck Jaws for Woodturners
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- Mike share his thoughts and preferences on chuck jaws for Woodturners. His advice may be helpful if you are considering moving beyond the standard jaws that come with your chuck and buying other jaws.
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Excellent video! Thanks!
Must admit, your phrase “BFB” was my favorite part. 😅
Thank You Mike!
This video is a great help even 4 years later. I purchased a Oneway Chuck and won't look back.
Your explanations are the best!
Subscribed and Liked!
Great to hear!
Good job Mike 👍🇺🇸
Thanks for the information. Since I just have the Standard Nova chuck videos like this are helpful for future purchases.
Thanks, Mike. Always enjoy your videos. I also have a Super Nova Chuck with just a few sets of jaws. I will invest in another Nova Chuck one day and perhaps another set or two of jaws. Will check out your other videos on jaw sets.
Excellent information once again Mike. Great video my friend.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks, Mike. I appreciate your support.
Very informative, I have several chucks with multiple accessories and never really paid much attention to the finer details. Thanks.
I appreciate the discussion as it is important to our hobby. I started with a SuperNova2 and quite a few sets of jaws - and I was very pleased in all regards. Then I got an Easy Wood Tools Easy Chuck and a smaller number of jaw sets. It wasn’t long before I realized there was a psychological difference that shocked me. I realized that with the Nova chuck I was hesitant to change to the optimum jaws because of the hassle and time it would take. With the Easy Chuck there was no hesitation to switch to the optimum jaw set because I could quickly do it with the chuck in place. Since then I rarely use the Nova chuck but hang on to it just in case I need to use an unusual jaw set - but that hasn’t happened yet - I am always using the Easy Chuck. You have gotten around this with an extensive set of chucks. The Easy Chuck is more expensive, but since I only need one, it is cheaper in the long run. I did look into upgrading the Nova with the Infinity conversions, but the cost was prohibitive - as you stated.
Ask and you shall receive! Thanks Mike for doing a great in-depth video on jaws. Lots of great information.
I should add that I bought the Nova G3 and love it. Have the 50 & 100mm jaws, and the cole jaws. One of the big reasons I went with a Nova was what you mentioned - if I get another one I can use any of my jaws on it. Great info about the other jaws you have. Thanks again!
Thanks again for suggesting the topic, James.
I use the nova chuck in my Woodturning. I would like to try there new jaw set for making duck calls!
Great information on chuck jaws. I agree with avoiding changing jaws so I have 4 Nova chucks. Three are G3 chucks and one is a Super Nova 2 chuck. I have them set up with different jaws as well. I have the Cole jaws as well and I found by screwing wood to it and making custom jaws they work great. I also have a number of glue blocks that fit the dovetail jaws. I mostly hot glue smaller jobs to it.
I really like your videos and your no nonsense way of presenting information.
Thanks for sharing.
Gary
Thanks for your suppport, Gary. I use glue blocks with a tenon as well. Quick and dirty. I switch to threaded glue blocks if I have to remove and they must run true like in threading projects.
Thanks for sharing. I have the NOVA infinity chuck and been using it for a few years now. I have had no issues. I like the thicker steel jaws on the infinity. I use my #2 dovetail jaws relentlessly. Lol
Thanks for sharing. I remember seeing the different Infinity jaws at a symposium just before they released them and then had to recall the chuck. I had forgotten that they had some nice and different jaws then the SN2.
Excellent work Mike. I have an early 20th century 11" Rockwell lathe and only have the Nova g3. I recently added a Wen chuck just to hold my cole jaws or pin jaws rather than going with a quick change set of jaws. I really got a great deal of knowledge from this video. Thank you for taking the time to produce it.
Thanks. I have never seen a Wen chuck. How does it compare to your G3?
@@MikePeaceWoodturning So Far, the Wen Chuck is comparable to my g3 from a stability standpoint. No vibration and just as heavy-duty. I like the quick-adjust ring and the stability of the Wen Chuck versus having to always use the key for small adjustments on the g3. It is an economical way to get some nice jaws to hold the cole jaws or pin jaws so I don't spend too much time unscrewing the g3 jaws to switch configurations between standard, cole, and pin jaws. I just thread on a different set of chucks already loaded with the necessary jaws. The Wen chuck is less than 1/2 the price of the g3 and the jaws are deeper than the ones that come with the g3. Here is an Amazon link to the jaws. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PYFNFP3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks Mike. I'm a little lazy and have bought three chucks (local Australian brand). with pin jaw, standard 50mm and a Cole.
It's a pain to have one chuck and keep changing Jaws. So far these meet my needs. Nice to hear and I will remember about the tenon size and the length of unsupported wood. I do bring up the tail stock as much as possible when doing my longer pieces
Thanks for sharing, Peter.
Mike-like others I really like your videos.I have watch many videos on lathes chucks, including yours. I am moving up to turning larger size bowls, up to 18 inches. If I understand the guidelines correctly the a target size jaw around 40% of the recess or tenon diameter. This puts the chuck I need at about 7" or about 180 mm. I do both recess and tenons, like the dovetail chuck inside and outside. I have narrowed my search to either the Vicmark or Hurricane. Appreciate your comments on recommendations.
That 40% is often quoted and would certainly be adequate. I have never used a Vicmarc or Huricane chuck. The Vicmarc is expensive but does have larger jaws than the Hurricane I believe. And likely better quality.
Mike, I hope you know I was teasing you the other day. I know how busy you get, I just get a kick out of your videos. You aren't Stephen Spielberg...you're more entertaining (I can say that can't I? I watch more of your videos than his!). I appreciate the content you continue sharing buddy. You fill a very good niche here and I love what you do. Keep it up and hope your symposium works out well for you.
Thanks, Rob.
I live on a very tight budget ( VA pension) my son and I work with several kinds of materials in our garage. this past year, he saved up and bought us a lathe to add to our kit. it was a fairly cheap one, but it has been doing the job. I really wanted a set of jaws, but again, being broke, I had to get an inexpensive set. so I found a PSI set I could afford. I had never used jaws with serrations before, and this one has them. I would love to get better jaws for it, but as you said, manufactures don't tend to make jaws for other brands, so I am kinda stuck with what I have for a while. I have really enjoyed and learned from your videos. I hope to upgrade to better jaws soon, and will be looking for something along the lines of that Nova chuck, so that I can have a variety of jaws to choose from.
I suspect that PSI chuck will meet your needs for some time. Safe turning!
Very informative. Thanks Mike. Something I found out yesterday is that the Teknatool chucks do not tighten to the left because of where they are manufactured but because when turning in the normal fashion (i.e. not reverse turning) the jaws/mechanism maintains a tightening tension.
Ron
Strange that every other manufacturer decided this was not a concern and kept it "righty tightee".🤔
This was a great explanation of the various jaw sets. You showed me some I would like to have and explained why there some I do have but probably shouldn't. I understand your dislike of the Nova Cole Jaws. But I do a lot of segmented bowls and find the cole jaws great to ensure each ring is perfectly centered as I add it to the stack.
Thanks for sharing. Clearly Cole jaws have a place. Just not for me. I can see how a vacuum chuck would not be much help in centering your rings.
Yes, and I would like very much to find out more about vacuum chucks. I think there are plenty of opportunities for their use in bowl turning. I know you have a video or two on the subject. I'll have to find them and review.
good video mike,,i wish you would make a video on making wooden jaws for the chucks
That has been on my to do list for a while. I have had a set of Nova soft jaws for years that I have never figured out what to use them for.
When I started turning and bought my first chuck my concern was bang for the buck and the Supernova II appeared to be just that. Keeping things simple I now have 5 Supernovas with 5 different sets of jaws, one for each chuck. The nice thing about it is I only need 1 chuck key and that is magnetically attached to my lathe. If I were to go to another chuck it would likely be the Vicmarc and those monster jaws that they make.
VicMarc definitely has everyone beat in the BIG jaws department. Now that I bought my 5th chuck (used) I need to decide which set of jaws would get some use and I am thinking my 35mm spigot jaws. Certainly not the 100mm jaws that came with it
Mike ... Barracuda has a new chuck with quick-change jaws. Haven't seen it yet, but some other guys say it is pretty nice.
The last time I checked, Nova has withdrawn the retro slides for Infinity-style jaws from the market. They still the retro kits for the jaws themselves, but the retro slides are no longer available.
Thanks for the info on the new Barricuda. I see it on the Penn State website Good price. www.pennstateind.com/store/CSCBARR5.html
I have no facts but concerns about the materials used in the Barricuda and other low priced chucks. Ok for a weekend hobbyist that will only use lightly. I have been using my SN2 for 11 years with no issures other than taking apart to clean once. Not sure the Barricuda will stand up to the wear and tear long term for a serious turner.
Humm. I wonder what problems Teknatool was experiencing?
Good question ... I have two Infinity chucks and acquired a SN2 at an estate sale a few months ago. I wanted to convert the SN2 to use Infinity jaws, but no joy. I called Nova tech support and all they were able to tell me was that the Infinity slides retro kit had been withdrawn from the market.
I share your observations on the Barracuda chuck.
Just found your channel and the live and drive centre videos were very helpful thanks. I work by hand and am building a treadle lathe (I know but I’ve a huge 22” cast fly wheel, 10” drive with pitman and an auxiliary flywheel which will run off the headstock, the frame is 8x4 oak). I’ve no turning experience though and am researching the hardware I’d need.
I’ll be using a 5/8” steel bar. So I’m hoping a spindle adapter with a chuck on it, with a morse carrier inserted into the chuck will give me the most flexibility for changing drive centres and easy access to the chuck, which would always be installed. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated
Sounds like quite an undertaking. My thoughts would be to forget about a chuck and turn between centers or use a face plate. 5/8" seems a little on the small end to support a chuck, especially if the 5/8 is not hardened. I know some Shop smiths have 5/8 spindles but never heard of anyone bragging on them as a lathe. 3/4" wwould be better and you can find 3/4x10 course rod inexpensively and cheap spindle adapters to match. Forget a Morse tape adapter but buy a steb center that is designed for a chuck if you go the chuck route. Show us pictures after you make it and turn something on it! Good luck.
Thank you for the advice! A bigger shaft it is!
"Let me tell you what I like about [Cole jaws]. Nothing." My experience, exactly. I bought some Cole jaws and used them for a while, but soon found myself looking for ways to avoid them. Finally, I made several vacuum chucks and haven't looked back. They are so easy to use, so fast to set up, and so effective that I can't understand why more turners don't use them.
Probably cost and complexity of initially setting up one. I love mine. Cole jaws have the appeal of cheap and easy.
Thanks Mike another educational tool for us novices. Found plenty to consider. One issue I seek advice on is the diameter of Tennons and Recesses. We are taught to make them to the minimum dimension - based on - the theory they more effective If that's true, why do manufacturers provide a huge adjustment zone? I make a few larger platters using my single 50mm Nova and like to use the outside lip of the recess as the foot of the platter. So for two reasons wider foot more stabilty and wider recess ditto when turning. Can you throw light on this? Thanks
Sometimes the tenon size does not have to be a perfect match to optimum. This is especially true when turning green and you need to leave large for reshaping as they go oval. Some folks see a huge adjustment range as a feature. Most jaws have a larger range then the Teknatool chucks because they chose to constrain the range I think so they could make the chuck jaws interchangeable across their different size chucks. Having a larger tenon is probably safer then a smaller one with the downside being the jaws will leave marks if not sized for the optimum recess or tenon. If making a large bowl, I would go slightly larger tenon, especially when rough turning.
Hey my brother awesome and good tip and tricks I love it,Hey I have a Delta 1440 iron bed and I don't have the chuck for it and I don't know which one I need,If you know which one I need can you let me no I will really appreciated my friend thank you Sir :)
I don'tknow off hand but you should be able to measure the spindle and count the threads in a half inch and double it to get tpi. Unless it is a very old lathe it is probably 1" x 8tpi or 1 1/4" x 8 tpi.
Thanks. Very helpful. Have you looked at the Easy Wood Chuck with the snap-in jaws? Seems like they have some advantages, I'm curious regarding durability of the snap-in mechanism.
I hear nothing but good thngs about them. But I have accumulated 7 chucks so changing chucks is faster than changing snap in jaws. Their range of jaws appeared a bit limiting to me and the upfront cost is the equivalent of one new and a couple of used chucks.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning Thanks!
@@MikePeaceWoodturning After reviewing my options and your comments regarding the array of jaws available with the Easy Chuck system, I decided to go with the Record SC-4. The snap-in jaws approach was really appealing, but the limited number of jaw and other options, such as a spindle center outweighed the snap-in appeal. Thanks for your comments, they were quite helpful.
Mike, I believe I have the same lathe as you and I am just curious as to what Chuck/Jaws setup as you for coring bowls. Thanks
I don't have a coring system. If I did I would use my largest chuck, the Teknatool Titan with Powergrip jaws gripping a tenon.
So I just wanted to run this by you because I think your opinions are aligned with my own. I have a turncraft commander midi lathe, it is has a 10" swing. I have bought a nova set of pen turning jaws but also has a set of 4 jaws presumably to turn bowls and spindles but there pretty small. I have turned multiple pens and one short lamp (bedside type). I was wondering if I needed a bigger chuck to turn smallish bowls or pen cups? When I turned the lamp the tenon seemed a bit small for the wood I was turning. A
Any advice you can give me would be appreciated. Thanks
I believe that your normal jaws should handle most turnings you could do on your lathe. Make the tenon a bit larger. Stay safe
Can you elaborate on what you said about not cutting a dovetail for a recess for the nova chucks?
No dovetail tenon for normal jaws. Yes, a dovetail for a recess but do not make it extreme, about 10 degrees is right.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning Interesting - so just a straight 90 degree tenon?
Mike I'm gonna buy a Laguna 1836. What chuck do you reccomend. What's a good starter set of jaws?
I like the Record Power SC4 with standard jaws. Add more jaws based on the turning you like.
Hi Mike.. I have a good number of Niva jaws but some have horrific runout. Have you had issues with their chucks at all? Thx. Jeff
My guess is they have an insert. Loosen the set screw, remove it and reinstall. It is likely not registering on the inside. You really need to crank it down. If the jaws are not centering, loosen screws, tighten up with chuck key and then snug up the screws.
@Mike Peace Woodturning thank you Mike.. I'll try those things. I do have also a direct thread model that does seem true. The chuck seems to run true, just the jaws are wonky so I'll try that! Have a Merry Christmas to you and yours Mike!
i have a G3 chuck form my first lathe I now have a mid sized powematic lathe that does everything i need but id like a bit bigger chuck can you recommend one?
SuperNova2 or Record Power SC4 ( which I slightly prefer to the SN2). Jaws are interchangeable. Although if shifting from a righty tightee chuck to a righty loosie, you need to swithch the position of the #2 and #4 jaws. But f you have the 14" PM you do not NEED a bigger chuck.But those I recommended are good if you want to get a second chuck.
Hey Mike what is your favorite go to Chuck?
Cucks are a religious war of personal preference but I have 5 Nova chucks and two Record Power. All jaws are interchangeable. I like my SC4 chuck the best with the Nova SN2 close behind. Here is my review th-cam.com/video/Z3UB6fuQNwc/w-d-xo.html
what jaws would you use for day a 1 " square piece for finials? i have a Nova comet 2 with a g3 reversible chuck
I advocate getting the turning basics down before you start throwing money at more accessories like specialized jaws. After you have the turning basics down and have a better idea what you will be turning, you will be better able to evaluate the jaws you need. Check out this video on jaws. th-cam.com/video/JMV5riRog-Q/w-d-xo.html
@@MikePeaceWoodturning thanks
for the info, like your videos very informative