Scroll Chuck Jaws 101 for Woodturning
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- in this video Scroll Chuck Jaws 101 for Woodturning, I demonstrate and explain the different types of scroll chuck jaws for woodturning and the kind of projects they are designed for. My demonstration is based on a variety of Record Power jaws for the SC3 and SC4 chuck but most of the information is transferable to other chucks with similar jaws. Note that these jaws are completely interchangeable with Teknatool and Sorby Patriot chucks.
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Disclaimer: Record Power is not paying me for this video but did provide me the chucks and jaws without cost for me to use in this video. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Mike thank you for helping me out. I sent you a message that I had a bad experience with customer support with a 1-800- number. They no longer have that U.S. number. they are going to replace my chuck so thank you very much.
I am pleased that I was able to help. I spoke to the Record Power International Sales rep about it at the Portland symposium. They are anxious to get the bad chuck back to determine what the problem was since they have not run into that before.
Mike Peace Woodturning mike i have a question, i have a wen chuck and I’m trying to figure out how to attach the wood worm screw
Mike, Thank you so much. Albeit a 5 year old video, the knowledge still rings true, especially the safety aspect associated with using the right jaws for the application.
Right on
Thank you very much Mike for explaining useful jaws information. I am new beginner’s of this SC chuck and now l know which jaw to use for.
Glad it was helpful!
I have watched this video many times. Every time I consider buying a new set of jaws for a new project, I come back to it. This is an excellent comprehensive review of gripping pieces.
So glad it was helpful for you. Keep turning.
Exactly. I've just bought my second chuck (first was Sorby and now SC4) and I'd like to have a few more jaws sets. Thanks Mike for the comprehensive presentation!
Thanks for the comprehensive review
Long-time woodworker, but beginner turner. Thanks for the info. You helped me decide what jaws to buy. Appreciate it!
Great to hear!
Thanks Mike for your insight. I've been turning for about 1 year and you and others have taught me so much. Thanks again!
Most welcome.
Thanks Mike! I have been turning for just about 3 years and I'm getting to the point where I'm realizing the limitations of my 50mm jaws. This was very informative and timely for me. I was also curious about Record Power jaws, so win-win-win!
Glad the timing was good.
Just beginning turning. Bought a 12/16 and now am working through all the options. This was a great help. It was clear and concise. Many thanks Mike!
Glad it helped
Mike, another fact filled video! This video went to my library! SAFE TURNING, John
Thanks you, John.
Hi Mike, I'm new to wood turning and I've just started watching your videos. I think they're great and I really appreciate all the time you take to post them. Very helpful.
Thanks and welcome
Thank you, Mike, for the information and your continued efforts.
I appreciate your comment, Lewis.
Good job Mike
Thanks for the time and effort.
This is of your most helpful videos to date for me, Mike. Thank you!
Thanks, Bobby. I really appreciate that.
Well Mike, I decided to go with the PSI Chuck's due to the budget and I must say I'm not regretting it (yet). I got all the things I needed and I'm pushing out a couple items a day. I have some green Maple, Walnut, Black Cherry, Ceader, and Elm. I'm turning all sorts of bowls, boxes, platters and vase's. After I get some cash I'll get the Record Power chuck. You have deeply inspired me and peaked my interest. Keep these good videos coming!
Another great video Mike. Thanks for sharing.
Ordered an sc3, very happy with it. Thanks for the great videos!
You will like it I know.
This is a great video. The biggest thing I was happy to learn about was the fact that the companies jaws aren't specific to that company's chuck. But I learned a bunch of other things, as well.
Glad you found it helpful, Dan
This was a very helpful video. It wasn’t until you pointed it out that I noticed the difference in “pen” vs “pin” jaws. Maybe I’m the only one who was confused but thanks for clearing that up. Like you mentioned this is a video I’ll revisit before my next turning project. Thanks.
Lot of folks get the pen and pin jaws confused.
Thanks Mr. Mike very informational
Thanks Mike for your insight ,and informative video
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video, Mike! I enjoyed it and learned a few things I didn’t know.
Thanks, Rick. I appreciate that.
Very informative, thank you very much!
A very informative video - especially for beginners i.e. me! Thanks for posting.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the info.
Good video thank you.
Thank you very much Mike! I always enjoy your videos and find them extremely informative and helpful. What I just realized is that unlike most sites, you actually reply to viewers posts - even though they all prompt viewers to post questions and comments. I find that extremely annoying and inconsiderate. I applaud you for taking the time to educate your viewers and engaging with them further by actually replying. As a result, I just subscribed to your channel. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge, insights and experience!
Some channels probably reach a size that they just do not have time to respond unless they have a staff. Like you, I am amazed at channels smaller than mine that miss the opportunity to connect with their community.
Lucky you to get to play with so many different jaw sets. Obviously some of these interchangeable jaws wouldn't be safe on a smaller chuck like a Nova G3 even if they fit the slides. Great video with lots of useful information. Thanks for posting Mike.
You raise an interesting point. Teknatool advices against Using the 130mm jaws and Powergrip jaws on the G3 and advises against using the G3 on work that exceed a diameter of 14” and a depth of 5” with this chuck. Seems reasonable. Record Power provides no restrictions that I can find on any of the jaws on the SC3. I note that the SC3 and the SC4 use identical jaw slides and scroll ring. So wonder how much capacity difference there really is. So the issue is not really the jaws but the size of the work. If your work was less than 14x5, I see no problem with using these larger jaws on the G3 or SC3 for that matter.
Thanks Mike
Thanks Mike, very helpful
Very welcome!
Another winner Mike. I already understood the use of the various standard sizes, 50mm, 75mm and 100mm, etc. But your explanation of the specialty jaws like the pin jaws and spigot jaws was very enlightening. It was also very interesting to know which brands are compatible with my Nova chucks. And based on your comments I probably have jaw sets I don't need and there are some I could use that I don't have. Thanks for the great tutorial.
I appreciate the feedback, Glen.
Hi Mike, I have the nova chuck with the nova pin jaws, after seeing your video on the Record Power Pin jaw I think I'm going to purchase me a set. Woodcraft had the record power Jaws on sale last month so I purchased a faceplate ring and so far I love it.
Good deal!
Thanks Mike. Very informative and helpful. I currently am a Super Nova 2 user and am very happy with it. But. Record Power does have some interesting options. Since the jaws are all interchangeable, I'll definitely keep this info in mind. Thanks again (BTW, I was looking seriously at Hurricane chucks until I looked at the jaws available. NOT much there just as you stated)
Thanks for your comment, Charlie. Jaws savailabillity is important.
I was looking for a comparison of good quality chucks. For example, the advantages and disadvantages of Nova and Record. I actually got an advertisement for Record chucks. I know you have used Nova chucks and I was waiting for some comment on the difference. But, informative on the different jaw and chuck options. Thanks.
I have some info on the Record Power chucks which I really like even better than the Novas. Check out this SC3 review with links at the end to two more relevent chuck videos th-cam.com/video/sZdqVFfppH0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks Mike. Very useful and informative. I only started woodturning in January (Had a lathe and tools & accessories for a 60th birthday present), and I bought a chuck package from Rutlands (I am in the UK) which came with several of the types of jaws you demonstrated. I hadn't yet found a use for the pin jaws - I hadn't thought of using them for reverse turning boxes. Though I've only made one box so far (from Oak).
Incidentally, that chuck from Rutland is also apparently compatible with the Record Power jaws. And while it isn't as big a name as Record Power or Robert Sorby, it still seems pretty so;id so far.
Probably made in one of the factories that produce the Nova, RP or Sorby I expect. Is is it Rightie Titee?
@@MikePeaceWoodturning Yes, it is clockwise with the key to close the jaws, if tgat is what you mean.
Thank you very much
The RP rep I contacted says they will talk to Highland. He said RP has no 800 number in the US so it is unclear who you spoke with.
Mike -- Thanks for the run down of the jaws available from Record Power. Like you, I'm a fan of their chucks. I also want to second what you said about the potential quality issues with no-name chucks. Soon after I started turning, I bought a Vicmarc chuck (no concern with quality there!) with several jaws. Soon thereafter thought I'd buy another chuck because I'd tired of switching between jaws. So, rather than buy another Vicmarc, I bought a cheapie from PSI. At first, I was pleased. I thought I'd saved a ton of money and it was doing everything my Vicmarc did, even if it felt a little rough around the edges.
About the third or fourth time I used the PSI chuck, I couldn't get my blank to center properly. The blank seemed loose in the chuck, even though I'd tightened it several times. Upon close examination, I noticed that one of the jaws was not in contact with the wood. It had bent backwards. Removing the blank from the chuck, I was able to bend the metal of the jaw with pressure from my thumb! Yes, I'd say there was a material difference in quality!
Sometimes buying cheap means buying twice. It is a lesson I have a hard time learning!
I use a barracuda chuck from PSI, unless my project uses a tailstock it only gets used for projects around 6" across. My great grandfather liked to say; "if you don't need to plow ten acres, then don't waste money on a horse that can".
@@blargkliggle1121 A wise man your great grandfather!
@@judycharvey5790 I was blessed to have had so much time with him, how many people can say their great grandfather attended their graduation? By the way, his favorite saying was, "don't work hard, work smart". He taught me that it doesn't matter how hard you work if you don't have anything to show for it, and how to milk a cow.
@@blargkliggle1121 my uncle always said work smart not, hard lol. And a nice quote idk who originally said it but Johny Depp "If there's anything worth doing, it's worth doing right" Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas. That's my favorite quote lol.
Great video and as a new turner I learned a lot. While working on your projects how often do you change jaws? Would it make sense to have several chucks? If you get a chance I'd like to see a video on chuck maintenance. Thanks.
Thanks. How many Chuck's/jaws I think is a function of your turning budget and what you turn.
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Hi!
Are You sure You need the dovetail when You use a so deep spigot on the 100 mm jaws?
The dovetail is parallel with the serrations.
My thought is to use the dovetail as normal on a shorter spigot.
Good catch. No, the dovetail on the inside is only for a blank with a short tenon, typical of a bowl. No dovetail is needed for a blank like I showed that has a long tenon. The long tenon and the interior jaw serrations would make for a strong hold on this type of blank, typical of a blank when doing a large vase or hollow form.
What would you consider the best or highest quality chuck. Price not an consideration. The truest running of all available chucks. I have a super nova 2 and g3, lots of rattle,seem loose to me. I watch all your videos, you do excellent work. Thank you for your time.
Yes, my Nova jaw glides rattle as well. Does not seem to be a problem in use. The two Record Power chucks I own are much tighter. The Vicmarc chucks seem to get the very best reviews but do cost more. Did you watch this? th-cam.com/video/mfZCJYLIAfw/w-d-xo.html
2 screws per segment better than 1. I had a screw shear on my Robert Sorby, luckily I was wearing a full face shied as the segment flew across the workshop As did the 8” bowl I was working on ! no reflection on Robert Sorby they are fantastic chucks. I had probably over tightened the screw. Any idea of what Torque should be used for chuck screws?
Snug but not overly tight. Need to check them periodically to insure tight.
Hi Mike, just starting to turn wood and found your video great to watch, I am considering a Record Power SC3 package for around £100. Don't suppose Record power gave you a discount code? haha
Thanks for the video Mike, I have subscribed and will watch your previous video's. Jim
Welcome to our turning community. Sorry, no discount code.
I wish I had seen your video when I got started when I had the money
You would have bought more or wiser? 😆
Great overview
Shortly after buying my first lathe (since replaced), I purchased the PSI 'Utility' chuck. This is a fairly inexpensive tommy-bar design that comes with three sets of jaws - pin jaws, 35mm jaws, and Cole jaws - and a woodwork screw. I later added 100mm jaws (that I rarely use). It's a good, basic chuck that works well.
BUT to reinforce the point you made - that's as far as I can go. Other than pen jaws, PSI doesn't offer any other jaw sets for their chucks, and of course, their 'C' chuck design isn't compatible with any of the competitors. In fact, the 100mm jaws that I bought are no longer available., nor is the step center insert that I never got around to buying.
So if had known then what I know now - - - but doesn't that apply to lots of things!
Thanks. Like they say wsdom and experience come after we need them.
I just bought the same chuck and got the Cole jaws separate. I'm a new woodturner and I'm trying to make some money out of it. I was advised to go with Nova but I needed other things to go with the chuck lol. So far I've thrown about 3 bowls (bad catches) but it is making life easier.
Great video Mike. Some very good information here. Have been thinking off adding a chuck or two to my Nova Supernova 2 and G3 and since my Nova jaws will work on the Record chucks I think that would be perfect. Also don’t the Record chucks operate Righty tighty, lefty loosey? If so that would fix the only thing I don’t like about the Nova chucks, the backward tightening and loosening for us stateside... Also at 12:59 you have two tenoned blanks that appear to have spalting on them. Is the spalting a concern for someone like me with severe allergies. The last time I was in your fair state visiting family I got some large pecan blanks from some downed trees from one of their storm damaged trees and two of them have developed spalting. Also do you keep/store your larger pieces outside covered or uncovered or do you keep them inside? Sorry for all the questions Mike....
Ron
Yes, RP chucks are rightie titie. Straight from Dr Seri Robinson who has a PHd in spalting, wood dust is a problem. Spores from spalting not so. I keep my large wood outdoors covered and off the ground. Don't have room inside except for cut blanks for spindle work. Bowl blanks are kept in log form until needed.
Mike Peace Woodturning Great. Thanks for the info Mike.
Ron
Mike I see you using an adapter to go from the larger threads down to the standard 1 '' of most smaller lathes where have you managed to obtain them the one you showed looked professionally made. my problem is my two bigger lathes the spindles are one and a half x 12tpi NF and I can not get adapters, Vic marc provided a 120 for me with the 1 1/2 thread cut into it but I would like to use other chucks I have inherited any tips greatly appreciated cheers
That is indeed an off size. My two main sources do not carry that. You may have to get a machinist to make one.
A basic question, are chuck jaws interchangeable between different manufacturers? thanks
Generally no with some exceptions such as Nova, Record Power and Sorby Patriot
This is excellent but as a newbie, how do you create the tenon to begin with?
You have the piece between a live center on headstock and a revolving live center on the tailstock - supported on each end.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning Thank you. Brilliant video, I liked it a lot.
Can someone answer a newbie’s question.
I have almost lost one of the screws to attach jaws to my wsc 1oo scroll chuck.
I would like to buy some spares.
What size and length are they?
I am not familiar witha wsc 1oo scroll chuck. Normally the manufacturer offers a spare screws kit that could be purchased where you bought the chuck. You can go to a specialty fastener or industrial supplier for screws like Fastenal but you would need to measure the length and determine the thread size, usually metric. You might search the manufacturers instructions for the screw size. Google it if you do not have it.
Wow, I had no idea there were going to be so many choices just to choose a chuck for a lathe. I think I'm more confused as to what to do now than ever.
Most folks are happy with whatever quality chuck they buy. There is no "best" chuck for everyone. Just do it.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning I will be buying my first lathe shortly, and also purchasing as many tools up front as will give me a good start. Since I'm not sure exactly what I'm going to find is my niche, I am not sure what kind of chuck will give me the most universal design. There are so many choices with design, size, specialties, etc. That was what I meant was confusing.
Hi Mike. I’m stopped at 6 minutes because it’s over my head as a dead beginner. When you say, these are on an SC4, I say, what’s that? Is a chuck two pieces? Why are we using a chuck and not centers.
Is there an earlier video to watch that you can reference at the beginning about the simple problem of work holding and start from the beginnings of the problems and how these tools developed to solve them?
The SC4 is a chuck made by Record Power similar to the SN2 by Teknatool. I have a playlist of 22 videos called Chucking or How to Hold Wood on a Lathe. You can see all of my playlists on my home page.
Safety question,,I wear readers under my face shield,,should I be wearing safety readers,, thanks
Few folks do but saftey glasses are recommended under a faceshield. I wear my regular glasses.
The instructions I received with my Nova G3 says they do not recommend using the 130mm jaws with the G3! FYI
The issues is not the size of the jaws but the size of the project. If you are using them to turn boxes, for example, no problem. But most folks would get those jaws for turning large platters or bowls that would be too much for that size chuck.
I went to highland woodworking and Record power was my first chuck. The key wouldn't work in one sided the hole wasn't big enough.so I called the 1-800 number asked someone about my problem . He told me he would send me a new one. So two weeks later I called back he said he forgot! I got my Dremel and made the hole bigger so it would work and went back and got three more jaws. One was coil jaws and the key wouldn't tighten. So I called customer service again and told them that was going on and they said to bad. You have they ear can you tell someone about my customer service.
Sorry you had such a poor experience with your chuck. So if I understand correctly, all your poor customer service was with Highland WW?
Nova lathe jaws
Sorry, I don't understadn what you are trying to say. These were mostly Record Power jaws as stated in the video.
Sorry Mike if didn’t understand what I was saying. Highland tell me to call the one 800 number for record power and I call the one 800 number and they was very rude and even got smart. And then tell me I just like to complaining. I don’t want anything from them I’m just saying whoever answers the phone needs to be fired.
I forwarded your comments to the RP Rep I know for forwarding to the right place.
I'm sorry, but very disappointed. Focus way more on generalities and promo for Record.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, Kim. I can't please everyone on every video. This one had better than my average likes and watch time for my videos so I am not unhappy with it.
This is less a Chuck Jaws 101, put more a punt for Record Jaws.