How GOOD were Magmar & Magmortar Actually - History of Magmar & Magmortar in Competitive Pokemon

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  • Magmar! The spitfire Pokemon! Magmar has lots of fire power and got even more when it evolved but is it enough for competitive play? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Magmar & Magmortar in competitive Pokemon!
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    0:53 - RBY/Gen 1
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  • @punkcherries
    @punkcherries 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1135

    magmar and electabuzz are based on the karura and oni respectively! the karura is a japanese hindu-buddhist mythological creature depicted as a humanoid/bird-like fire-breathing creature, and the oni is a yokai, and is basically kind of like a japanese ogre with horns and big tusks often depicted wearing tiger skin and sometimes depicted as having ties to thunder and lightning! hence why magmar and electabuzz look so strange to those of us in the west :D

    • @duane_313
      @duane_313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Thank you! I didn't know this

    • @hephaestus9901
      @hephaestus9901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I thought this was common knowledge

    • @elderalencar4832
      @elderalencar4832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@hephaestus9901 lol

    • @slayeulgi
      @slayeulgi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@duane_313 and jynx is a yuki-ona!

    • @Akyure
      @Akyure 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Top 10 Pokémon Facts Americans Won't Understand

  • @chaosbreaker657
    @chaosbreaker657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +697

    "Magmortar fell to PU, before getting banned from this tier on account of positively nuking the entire tier."
    I don't know why, but this specific line made me laugh.

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Mel Palaganas
      PU tier: put that thing back where it came from or so help me

    • @Darth234Ravenous
      @Darth234Ravenous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv bum, bum, bum
      So help me, so help me, and cut!

    • @microwave8931
      @microwave8931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      New tier perhaps...?

    • @1doobiedoo
      @1doobiedoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      PU is like a friendly Pokémon battle at the park. Except the one guy that brought his magmortar and nuked the little girls belossom, saying “git gud scrub.”

    • @dmann5938
      @dmann5938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Magmortar deserves better

  • @DragonKazooie89
    @DragonKazooie89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +716

    I feel bad for Magmortar, probably because my shiny Magmortar I caught In Pearl without the Radar as a Magby was such a rarity because it held a Magmarizer, Female and had a Modest Mature, a 1 in on 1 Million chance of occurring.

    • @thegreatpriest8784
      @thegreatpriest8784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Can i have it??

    • @zac6876
      @zac6876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Now seems like a good time to flex my shiny sentret with pokerus I caught

    • @obamabinladen2206
      @obamabinladen2206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@zac6876 I have a shiny full IVs and a great nature salandit.... A MALE ONE!!!

    • @obamabinladen2206
      @obamabinladen2206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@zac6876 can I flex on that???

    • @BagMakingBagmaker
      @BagMakingBagmaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@obamabinladen2206 no because its male

  • @renownerd.276
    @renownerd.276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    When PU first came to Pokemon showdown, I ran an eviolite max special defense lava plume, clear smog, rest talk set with flame body. Clear smog got rid of stat changes, burns made its defense hold up, and its special defense was incredible. Made it to Pokemon showdown's no.1 spot in ranked for about a week. Was a fun set.

  • @PsyrikAntz967831
    @PsyrikAntz967831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +765

    Magmortar and Electivire would’ve seen more usage if their Speed wasn’t sacrificed in the evolution smh🤦‍♂️

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      It’s not just their speed, it’s their lack of boosting moves and good moves. Magmortar gets strong moves, but not moves with the coverage it needs(energy ball, scald, earth power, calm mind, or even nasty plot); however, it’s strength at least allows to actually be somewhat useful in wall breaking or dealing decent damage. The same can’t be said for Electivire, that guy has Magmortars problem but in reverse. Lots of coverage but really weak attacks that forsake the actually good attack stat. It’s main stab is thunder punch and nothing else. These two guys(or gals) really need boosting moves and stronger coverage options.

    • @XZA.B
      @XZA.B 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv exactly, They have so much potential to be stronger, I mean like.. If you have the right set on Electivire he could actually take out an Infernape like in the anime, I really wish they didn't make Electivire and Magmotar as bad as they are in Pvp

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv giving them better abilities would work too
      Electivire would like Iron Fist, Electric Surge, Galvanize and/or Adaptability even
      whiling Magmortar would like Mega Launcher, Drought and/or Sheer Force

    • @anonymousgreninja6994
      @anonymousgreninja6994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@goGothitaLOL Magmortar can't do anything with Mega Launcher.

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@anonymousgreninja6994 that's why i would give it Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse and some new Fire STAB that gets boosted by it

  • @JimBeamFiend53
    @JimBeamFiend53 5 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    Magmar's japanese name is Boober. Can you imagine blaine shouting that during magmars debut?

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Boober4uber

    • @ElArto95
      @ElArto95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      ok boober

    • @TheGuyWhoIsSitting
      @TheGuyWhoIsSitting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It’s more like boo baa so it may sound like he’s doing onomatopoeia for ghosts and sheep.

    • @uniqueusername677
      @uniqueusername677 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      It's also partially based on a real-life bird known as "booby." You can't make this up.

    • @nooneimportant13
      @nooneimportant13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Boober I choose you! Boober use body slam!

  • @primrosevale1995
    @primrosevale1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I find it so weird that Magmar and Blaziken are based on such similar myths (the karura and basan respectively) as well as birds, but got such different results.

  • @EdmacZ
    @EdmacZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    Magmortar never reached “OU but sucked” like Electivire, but unlike the former, actually managed to fare better in the lower tiers to the point of getting banned.
    Good job, Magmortar.

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Magmortar at least feels better than its prevolution (unlike Evire). What it really needs is boosting moves and stronger coverage moves: scald, earth power, aura sphere, energy ball, flash cannon, and moonblast. Our fat karura buddy has potential, it just needs these moves.

    • @GIR177
      @GIR177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv Magmortar's coverage is the least of its problems. Even if it got all those fancy things, it only has 4 moveslots, one of which has to be Fire Blast. At the end of the day, it would still be held back by being a pure Fire type with mediocre defenses and average speed.

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      GIR177 Magmortar should at least get sheer force.

    • @chaosbreaker657
      @chaosbreaker657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Magmortar has a better career competitive wise than Electivire. Being sent to the lower tiers meant that Magmortar can utilize its firepower in an environment that's conducive to it. Unlike Evire, who was a lower tier pick in a metagame that doesn't have any need for its talons.

    • @stetsonherrick8090
      @stetsonherrick8090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GIR177 I realize power is so muchly wanted here, but why is it still worth the power if the accuracy can and will sink you when you need it most?
      Call me a largely untrained competitive player, but why not just rely on Flamethrower for more consistent accuracy or even Lava Plume for consistent accuracy and a whopping 30% burn rate?

  • @chamber8234
    @chamber8234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    The following Pokémon have already been analyzed:
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    • @fledbeast5783
      @fledbeast5783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ShinyAlakazamPlays Wow. That’s a lot of pokemon.

    • @katacutie
      @katacutie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mvp

    • @joseamieva2168
      @joseamieva2168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Where’s magikarp bro

    • @TheWonkster
      @TheWonkster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're doing God's work

    • @Deedj1
      @Deedj1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. Wonky *Arceus

  • @Gaurang_Karande
    @Gaurang_Karande 5 ปีที่แล้ว +457

    How GOOD was WEEZING actually?
    It's time to wrap up with Team Rocket's Pokemon

    • @TheStopShort
      @TheStopShort 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Gaurang Karande but wouldn’t arbok be the one that wraps up?

    • @bilal25680
      @bilal25680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheStopShort xDDDD

    • @Gaurang_Karande
      @Gaurang_Karande 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheStopShort Lmaoooo xd

    • @3.2187_Kilometres
      @3.2187_Kilometres 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I been asking for that for 16 weeks

    • @phoebe5114
      @phoebe5114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have wanted this for SO long. Yes please!!

  • @AnarchyJunction
    @AnarchyJunction 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I actually really like the episodes that go into more detail about the lower tiers. Overused is cool and everything but it's always refreshing to hear how those lower tier mons are doing down there

  • @nvega899
    @nvega899 5 ปีที่แล้ว +308

    Still my favorite, wish theyd give him a mega evo to fix all that

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Same or at least Earth Power + Sheer Force

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      How awesome would be if it got nasty plot, scald, energy ball, and even aura sphere?

    • @catskills8553
      @catskills8553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Lee McDonald Flygon too, Garchomp made it obsolete

    • @somedude5097
      @somedude5097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Catskills man i agree with you magmortar, flygon and electivire should’ve gotten megas

    • @XZA.B
      @XZA.B 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If they gave Magmotar a Mega Evo then Electivire will as well

  • @KnufWons
    @KnufWons 5 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Let’s give Jynx some love since it’s kinda like a part of the trio with Magmar and Electabuzz!

    • @ducklett01god
      @ducklett01god ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were a trio until gen4

  • @Carlitonsp1
    @Carlitonsp1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Holy crap. Jynx still matched up to Magmortor and Electavire despite not evolving? Crazy.

    • @Kev.in1997
      @Kev.in1997 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frostitude 2 stronk

    • @houndofdoom1019
      @houndofdoom1019 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lovely kiss, and nasty plot were fantastic moves Jynx could abuse, and ice and psychic stab moves hit most Pokémon for at least neutral damage.

  • @pokwboas7409
    @pokwboas7409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +617

    Time to finish off the trio
    How GOOD was Jynx ACTUALLY

    • @rontheauraknight9606
      @rontheauraknight9606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lol nah next week is the patreon pick

    • @NylaTheWolf
      @NylaTheWolf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Pokeboss wait what trio?

    • @rontheauraknight9606
      @rontheauraknight9606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@NylaTheWolf In gen 1, most people saw JYnx, electabuzz and Magmar as a trio, this is further strengthened when gen 2 happened (they all got baby forms) Also more evidence was how they were all right next to eachother in dex numbers.
      In gen 4 it got no evo unlike MAgmar and Electabuzz so yeah

    • @mateuszfourem8738
      @mateuszfourem8738 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      what trio?

    • @pokwboas7409
      @pokwboas7409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Ron the Auraknight Also their typings further strengthen this because, Fire, Ice, and Electric are the 3 destructive types of magic. This is like Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres. Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyerum follow this as well.

  • @primrosevale1995
    @primrosevale1995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    00:16 From Bulbapedia: (Magmar) is possibly overall based on a Karura, depicted in Japanese Hindu-Buddhist mythology as a birdlike, fire-breathing creature.

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    How good was Jynx ACTUALLY? Jynx was the only one of these three to actually see some serious competitive use in the higher tiers, so I think that it’s deserving of a video

    • @dinosaurkin5093
      @dinosaurkin5093 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People only play her because they think blackface is funny

  • @PumperMu
    @PumperMu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Since we're on a gen 4 evolutions roll. How GOOD were Roselia & Roserade ACTUALLY?

  • @ZenoDovahkiin
    @ZenoDovahkiin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Magmortar looks like semiperfect Cell but on fire.

    • @aztumtheknightofwumbo7060
      @aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Heh. Fish lips.

    • @mayololi
      @mayololi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So his mega evo would be Perfect Cell on fire

  • @ivancaravaca6680
    @ivancaravaca6680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This reminded me of my overheat/power shift magmortar. It was fun to use it, and passing the stat drops to the enemy helped a lot, since it forced a change and improved magmortar's survivability (Tried replicating that same thing with Altaria, but haven't seen it work the same, and with mega-altaria gone, it seems like a difficult strategy to pull off).

  • @dededeisdosh4450
    @dededeisdosh4450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    How GOOD was Weezing actually?

  • @reavershank8985
    @reavershank8985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    How GOOD was DITTO actually

    • @matiasmorales073
      @matiasmorales073 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES!!

    • @connorreed7523
      @connorreed7523 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be interesting

    • @cytomegalovirusxTT94
      @cytomegalovirusxTT94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well that's going to be a challenge, to say the least

    • @lukecantrell5987
      @lukecantrell5987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ditto is in the never used tier so false swipe gaming is not going to try do not get your hopes up if some pokemon do worst

    • @reavershank8985
      @reavershank8985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lukecantrell5987 ditto is a pretty interesting pokemon tho. And he doesnt only talk about good Pokémon thats a really dumb reason

  • @1cioda
    @1cioda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Magmortar is one of my fav fire pokemon of all time. Idk why. I just love that thing. I think its the cannon arms

  • @SmashTom
    @SmashTom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I liked Magmar a lot in the earlier gens, but once Magmortar came out I just... stopped caring. Not sure why. It's not a bad evolution but I just didn't like it :/
    Nowadays I use Magmar for one thing: hatching eggs...

  • @theholy1191
    @theholy1191 5 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    How good was JYNX actually. This used to be a rival to electabuzz and magmar.

    • @timhuntjens6697
      @timhuntjens6697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm still to this day hoping Jynx will get an evolution. But for now, I'll settle for a video just about Jynx

    • @RobinLSL
      @RobinLSL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why did Jynx not get an evolution? It's supposed to be the weird humanoid trio...

    • @treasuredcollectibles
      @treasuredcollectibles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      RobinLSL not true. Electabuzz and Magmar are a pair. And Mr mime and jinx are a pair (both don't evolve so far)

    • @Soli167
      @Soli167 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@treasuredcollectibles False. We have mime Jr.

    • @Oculi_Aspiciator
      @Oculi_Aspiciator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Soli167 Well, they still don't evolve. Both gained a pre-evolution, though.

  • @PumPuum
    @PumPuum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    How *GOOD* were *MISDREAVUS* and *MISMAGIUS* ACTUALLY?
    The original trapper *DESERVES* some recognition.

    • @pragmat1k
      @pragmat1k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here here!

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why doesn't anybody love the Latis?!

    • @henrygutierrez3243
      @henrygutierrez3243 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Exocentric Mean Look, Perish Song

    • @HermanTG
      @HermanTG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I was just saying "Hmm, I should rewatch the Misdreavus and Mismagius" episode. I'm baffled this isn't a thing yet

    • @c.jhamblin5759
      @c.jhamblin5759 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      LETS GO! we have been waiting for literally over a year.

  • @past874
    @past874 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't see this said often, but great video, as usual. It's always nice to hear how all these Pokemon were in competitive.

  • @nicholassalazar5644
    @nicholassalazar5644 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I still really like to use magmortar

    • @joehawaiianbathtoba9429
      @joehawaiianbathtoba9429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Saladbarius The wise I’ve never been able to get one cause i don’t have friends to trade with

    • @stetsonherrick8090
      @stetsonherrick8090 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joehawaiianbathtoba9429 Worst come to worst, get another DS and a another (genuine) copy of HG/SS/D/P/PL. Then have fun trading around after you get the second copy once you're able. The DS wouldn't be too costly to get if you dig around, but the genuine second copy might prove more pricey.
      (If you are playing HG/SS, it would also prove *VERY* wise to get trades going for the In Game Onix and Machop you get from NPC trades for their final evolutions. Wild Magnemite can hold Metal Coats.)

    • @dmann5938
      @dmann5938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still love it to this day

  • @punishedwhirligig3353
    @punishedwhirligig3353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    How good was Weezing actually?

    • @saltinefromindiana
      @saltinefromindiana 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very fucking good is what I'd say
      That bitch is a wall with black sludge and pain split

    • @tjpokomo
      @tjpokomo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      THIS

  • @jeroenb699
    @jeroenb699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    They just miss out every time.
    So now.....
    How good were Piloswine and Mamoswine ACTUALLY???

    • @serpentmaster1323
      @serpentmaster1323 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jeroen B who's 'they'

    • @jeroenb699
      @jeroenb699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@serpentmaster1323
      Piloswine and Mamoswine.

  • @MissClockwork
    @MissClockwork 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Toxicroak is my favorite Pokemon, I hope to see a history of it in comp.
    Also fun fact, I use a Kings Rock Poison Touch set that is funny as hell to pull off

  • @dazzleneal
    @dazzleneal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    after you finish the trio, I would really enjoy the sequels of certain types and fighting styles over the years like you did with Ice Type (iirc?) and Wallbreakers

  • @tacosupreme9762
    @tacosupreme9762 5 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    How good was Piloswine and Mamoswine

  • @Xepscern
    @Xepscern 5 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    How GOOD WAS WEEZING ACTUALLY!!!!!??!??!?!

  • @nickelwrangler446
    @nickelwrangler446 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad I could learn about my favorite pokemon

  • @serperialist1079
    @serperialist1079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    Arbok or Weezing, bitte!

  • @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni
    @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +387

    Lets bring some doubles love! How GOOD was Ludicolo actually?!

    • @anon2447
      @anon2447 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Annoying, so friking annoying, Rain dish Seed Ludicolo is stupidly annoying and really hard to counter if you don't have flying STAB to deal with it....

    • @redditlivelovelaugh5578
      @redditlivelovelaugh5578 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ludicolo is one of my favorite Pokémon

    • @SuperM1311
      @SuperM1311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mirror B's Ludicolo***

    • @dm-sx6wf
      @dm-sx6wf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Suika why do I find you everywhere

    • @MaxiemumKarnage
      @MaxiemumKarnage 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Second this

  • @michaeltabaka8957
    @michaeltabaka8957 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    How GOOD was Jynx ACTUALLY?!?
    We must complete the trio, or what once was a trio.

    • @DarkCT
      @DarkCT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      im for this one. id like to see where Jynx went.

  • @1128nesecret
    @1128nesecret 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Magmar is in my top 3 favorite fire types , the top 3 always move around alot so I don't have a set order for them

  • @aakshaypatil5105
    @aakshaypatil5105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magmar and electabuzz were always my favourite Pokemon for playthroughs.

  • @hugorodrigues9206
    @hugorodrigues9206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bird Jesus next pls

  • @teleportaat
    @teleportaat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    How FABULOUS were Roselia & Roserade ACTUALLY? 🌹

  • @yungmuney5903
    @yungmuney5903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel like Electivire and Magmortar (And maybe Dusknoir and Mamoswine too??) are Pokémon that deserve a much higher BST than they actually got, with their insane Pokédex lore feats, their beastial imposing design and especially regarding their pre evolution BST. Like maybe around between the Tapus/UBs and the generic mini legendary trios like the legendary birds, Swords of justice, Regis, Ho-oh's beasts etc. Like how about 575 or 585 BST? I feel like that's perfect for Electivire and Magmortar. Also give Electirizer and Magmarizer a recoiless life orb function to their respective signature family line like a slightly worse Light Ball, just for fun.

  • @sameash2990
    @sameash2990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Confuse Ray / Smokescreen or Toxic / Fireblast / Hyperbeam is a force to be reckoned with in Gen I. I have killed lots of OU Pokemon with these sets on Pokemon Showdown

  • @krvys7226
    @krvys7226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Continue the gen1/gen4 trend with "how good are Lickitung/ Lickilicki actually"

  • @fredrickthecatfish8661
    @fredrickthecatfish8661 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    How good was roselia and roserade actually?

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe after the patreon pick (hopefully)

    • @dominicanderson3371
      @dominicanderson3371 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes plz

    • @RoronoraZoro666
      @RoronoraZoro666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want to know this, too. I wanna put my shiny one to good use

  • @snapclub8751
    @snapclub8751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Whenever I managed to get a Magmortar, I always named it Arm Cannons.

  • @broccolinyu911
    @broccolinyu911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Everyone else: *making pokemon requests*
    Me: ;-; a sad magmortar fan
    I always ran Confuse Ray, Sunny Day, Flamethrower, and Solarbeam but I can see why the setup would be finnicky

  • @elbermoramontero2769
    @elbermoramontero2769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    How good was Persian actually? Time to give a chance to the crit hit king of gen 1

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree! The Crit King needs his spotlight 🐱😸👍!

  • @phoenixlegend2771
    @phoenixlegend2771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Yeah lets go with Persion one of my favorite Cat Pokemon!

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Excellent! I want Persian as well! Just keep upvoting comments asking for it and we shall get it eventually 🐱😸👍!

  • @stetsonherrick8090
    @stetsonherrick8090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Long comment ahead, but it's *VERY* worth your time to read as far as Magmortar's general availability goes in it's debut Generation.
    Upon consideration of getting Pokémon Battle Revolution, I checked the shop contents to see if you could get Magmarizers, as they are so glaringly scarce. You want to know what I discovered?
    *They aren't obtainable through Battle Revolution's shops! Why the heck not?!*
    HGSS only gives *ONE* per save file, and you have to get Rock Climb to even get it. Which means you have to have all 16 Badges.
    Magby holding one for Thief/Covet/Trick purposes needs either a Diamond or Pearl copy and a dual slot with LeafGreen. You can't even find any Magbys in HGSS without breeding, which doesn't give hold items.
    Edit on 7/25/22: There is a single obtainable Magmarizer on Route 214. It's on the floor, but only for Platinum. It's still not much, but it's there.
    Besides everything from above, the only other way to get more is doing PokeWalker effort. Which is rather obnoxious since actually *getting* a PokeWalker besides actually doing the steps once you figure out how to use it isn't easy.
    Edit on 7/25/22: Amity Meadow in the Pokewalker is an event based area and the only place you can get the Magmarizer through the Pokewalker. I guess your kind of screwed there.
    ...How did GameFreak screw up this one item's accessibility this so far badly? Battle Revolution having the Magmarizer in the shop's contents would have made it an even better incentive to buy it after so much trouble involved elsewhere.
    Makes you wonder if the later games actually made it less of a nightmare to get access to Magmortar after how ridiculous Gen 4 went as it did. It makes even more sense for how it's competitive history went as well with the hoops you had to jump through just to use it in the debut.

  • @ghostyoda7379
    @ghostyoda7379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember I once made a dumb set to counter Baton Pass teams in gen 8. Magmortar was part of it, it had:
    - Belly Drum
    - Flame Charge
    - Earthquake
    - (I don't remember this one)

  • @marceloSSJ
    @marceloSSJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    How GOOD was SPIKES ACTUALLY? GEN (2 ~ 7)

  • @matthewluigiericson
    @matthewluigiericson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From what I can tell it's a three way battle in the comments between Persian, jinx and pilloswine and mamoswine

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then Ludicolo came out of left field and claimed a 200+ vote lead on all of them...

    • @matthewluigiericson
      @matthewluigiericson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dragrath1 wait really I want ludicodo in the series!

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewluigiericson The comment is gone from the top hours later so probably not. These things are rigged I swear...

    • @matthewluigiericson
      @matthewluigiericson 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dragrath1 well Hope's and dreams are fake

  • @vjwebb6182
    @vjwebb6182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use Magmar a couple of times in the games it's a powerful fire type I use magmar often against other trainer's, in certain gym battles and the pokemon league Magmar never disappointed either.

  • @radiantiris5086
    @radiantiris5086 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    How good was jynx actually?
    To continue the gen 4 evolu- oh wait.

  • @penguinlord9984
    @penguinlord9984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    How good was Infernape actually?

    • @GwnMichael
      @GwnMichael 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Swag Money Yes please

    • @JewishCowboy
      @JewishCowboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hitmonlee though

    • @penguinlord9984
      @penguinlord9984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Myers Hitmonlee will probably come soon because there has been a ton of gen 1 lately

  • @truevoltz7451
    @truevoltz7451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    How good was Persian actually? The most broken critting normal type in Gen 1

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree completely! Might I also add the Fastest normal type in Gen 1 (Dugtrio= fastest ground, Alakazam= fastest Psychic with the exception of Mewtwo, Aerodactyl= fastest rock/flying, Electrode/Jolteon=fastest electric types with the former being slightly faster.) Hoping we get it sometime in November, unless the Patreons happen to ask for it 🐱😸👍!

    • @truevoltz7451
      @truevoltz7451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jaiden Carvalho true, that’s the one of the main reasons it’s a crit monster, alongside slash

    • @ShadeZer0
      @ShadeZer0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FOOK YES

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@truevoltz7451 Yes and Slash is STAB for Persian so that does 50% more damage along with a critical hit 😸!

    • @inkpaladin
      @inkpaladin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm only answering for Gen 1.
      The short answer: Good, not great.
      It has a really limited move pool, and its base stats don't allow it to do mixed attacking unlike Tauros. Persian is only *slightly* faster than Tauros, but it has worse HP, ATK and DEF. Plus, thanks to the limited movepool, it's easily walled by any Rock or Ghost types (Golem, Rhydon and Gengar were meta in Gen 1 and thus easily wiped the floor with Persian, because Bite isn't Dark-type in this Gen either).
      Has nothing notable other than Slash, which is nice for wiping out Alakazam and other Psychics, but doesn't fare as well toward any other physical-based Pokemon due to being more of a glass cannon than Tauros was. Due to the nature of critical hits, its 'setup' moves (Screech, mainly) are pretty worthless since Criticals ignore ALL modifiers.
      There's only one skill set you're using with Persian, and that's:
      1) Slash
      2) Bubblebeam
      3) Thunderbolt/Thunder
      4) Optional
      4th can be either Toxic, Substitute or even Hyper Beam, depending on the user's personal tastes.
      EDIT: You might ask "but if it has Bubblebeam, why is it walled by Rock-types?" Answer: Persian's Special is weaker than Tauros's so it is not guaranteed to sweep Rhydon and Golem on contact unless it crits (despite that both have 4x Water weakness and lower Special values...)

  • @javierazlo1198
    @javierazlo1198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Best magmortar moveset:
    Flamethower
    Thunderbold
    Psyquick
    Scorching sands

  • @movezig5
    @movezig5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In case you're still wondering, it's probably based in part on a blue-footed booby, as indicated by its Japanese name, "Boober." I don't see the resemblance, though.

  • @Kefkaownsall
    @Kefkaownsall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Why didn't Magmortor get a fire ver of. Motor drive

    • @spectral5939
      @spectral5939 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Cause that'd be too op.
      (not really... But still good)

  • @jjtheenton
    @jjtheenton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    How GOOD was Persian ACTUALLY?
    Continue the Alolan variants! I WILL NEVER GIVE UP!!

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I want Persian to happen as well! We just got to keep at it! We'll get Persian soon 🐱😸!

    • @ShadeZer0
      @ShadeZer0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FOOK YES

  • @Wandermidget
    @Wandermidget 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    So Pinsir.
    What about Pinsir.
    It's been over a year since Heracross. So we need Pinsir already.
    Gonna keep rooting for muh beetle until it happens.

  • @charizardhaterkiller2663
    @charizardhaterkiller2663 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    See you all when Persian is on stage

  • @marcustulliuscicero5443
    @marcustulliuscicero5443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    How GOOD were Piloswine & Mamoswine ACTUALLY?

  • @keenmans
    @keenmans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    How good was LORD HELIX actually? Let's start the OG fossil train

  • @Kumaclaws
    @Kumaclaws 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Magmar is based on a Karura, a bird demon that breaths fire. Then add in that its Japanese name is boober and has a beak, so it might be mixed with ducks/boobies. It also helps that Electabuzz is based on Thunder Onis to reaffirm their connection

  • @psychichoodlem3501
    @psychichoodlem3501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In x and y my magmortar helped me win online tournament matches. He was a beast

  • @metaloom
    @metaloom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    How GOOD were misdreavus and mismagius ACTUALLY?

  • @MrDylan2125
    @MrDylan2125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    How good was Persian actually?

    • @JewishCowboy
      @JewishCowboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      But hitmonlee

    • @TheKeitaNobodyAskedFor
      @TheKeitaNobodyAskedFor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JewishCowboy but Absol

    • @GamerGhostRider
      @GamerGhostRider 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wasn't

    • @TheKeitaNobodyAskedFor
      @TheKeitaNobodyAskedFor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GamerGhostRider yes it was

    • @GamerGhostRider
      @GamerGhostRider 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheKeitaNobodyAskedFor It was on the lowest tier in every single gen, and was outclassed there by the likes of Ambipom and others, how is that good?

  • @IceSpoon
    @IceSpoon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jynx is the forgotten sister in the "elementary punches" trio of RBY. We need that!

  • @RLomoterenge
    @RLomoterenge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never noticed how heavy the bass tone is in the background music until this vid’s outro

  • @Snugboat
    @Snugboat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do the one part of teh trio who was dropped.
    How good was Jinx actually?

  • @SirStanleytheStumbler
    @SirStanleytheStumbler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    How good was Muk actually?

    • @Lizombiez
      @Lizombiez 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Muk

    • @The-New-Age
      @The-New-Age 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lizombiezkum

  • @johail3510
    @johail3510 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy your videos quite a bit.

    • @johail3510
      @johail3510 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just don’t enjoy how you sometimes come off as though you’re angry at certain weak Pokémon for just existing like dunsparce, tropius, miractus, and my favorite mon Shuckle, like they /chose/ to have subpar viability just to irk you and make it a chore to cover them. Again I like you and will continue watching your vids and I appreciate all the work you and the myriad of helpers you have do to push this entertainment out but these Pokémon already receive enough ridicule and hate, I just hope I can convince you to ease off the gas petal a little. Please have a good day and we appreciate you friend

  • @colinbaker9737
    @colinbaker9737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! How about “How GOOD was Arcanine actually?”

  • @randomeurovisionstuff2026
    @randomeurovisionstuff2026 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    *So How good was Latias actually*
    NOW!!!!!

  • @liplaygames5591
    @liplaygames5591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Magmortar is one of my favorite Pokemons of all time.

  • @darklightning2730
    @darklightning2730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:04
    False Swipe Gaming: Moltres and Charizard don’t get destroyed by Dugtrio.
    Me: What if Dugtrio has Rock Slide?

    • @Lol-il8uc
      @Lol-il8uc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that needed high prediction cause one wrong play could lose you a mon whereas mol and char switch out without much loss

  • @draaideur2358
    @draaideur2358 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    How GOOD was Persian actually?

  • @nh5264
    @nh5264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Meow meow Persian wants to be next

  • @ShiroShouten
    @ShiroShouten 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jynx next, plays with the pattern. Also, do another of 'how good were whatever type actually?' The ice one was interesting but lets hear more on the other types.

  • @steelforcezhd9051
    @steelforcezhd9051 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally you made this video

  • @tautop1222
    @tautop1222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    How good was Jynx actually?

  • @ceroluthor
    @ceroluthor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where's my Piloswine/Mamoswine?! Continue with the Gen 4 chaos!

  • @IfYouNeedAnEdge
    @IfYouNeedAnEdge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How good was Roserade actually? I have a lot of nostalgia for this dude, i remember even running a gimmicky technician set with Leaf Storm/Hidden Power/Spikes to beef up it’s hidden power damage against whatever your team was weak against. Worked well in any weather (flexing the Hidden Power between Ground/Ice/Fire/fighting depending on what your team needed), helps provide momentum with spikes, good against all the weath setters (depending on Hidden Power and last move in the case of Ninetales).

  • @ThatRedDood
    @ThatRedDood 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    How good was the second-hand of Giovanni? Persian next?

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Top Cat/ Team Rocket Mascot shall soon come 🐱😸👍!

  • @Sazandora123
    @Sazandora123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video should be renamed to "How OKAY were Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?"

  • @brokenrayquaza5784
    @brokenrayquaza5784 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:58 I guess they never miss huh

  • @ghost_type_gaming670
    @ghost_type_gaming670 5 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    How MEDIOCRE was fearow ACTUALLY?

    • @voidfields5065
      @voidfields5065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GOD AWFUL is what you are looking for hahaha

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@voidfields5065 Well it does have some nice toys like natural access to Ground Coverage in Drill Run(by level up no less)
      And with access to focus energy in gen 7 and its Hidden Ability Sniper, Focus Energy+Sniper Works pretty well it just lacks an actually usable stab move with a boosted crit rate... (It does get Sky attack but the move is just bad...)
      Now if GF gave Drill Peck a boosted crit rate(currently it has no added effects) and perhaps Slash (even if slash is a bit too weak to the point where like all other slash variants it is envious of Leafblade's +20 power buff)
      Without that Guaranteed Crit it is kinda lackluster nowadays as 90(Atk)/100(Spd) offenses are its only really usable stats. It is a lot better off than other Pokemon were its just heavily outclassed and crushed by Power Creep...

    • @ghost_type_gaming670
      @ghost_type_gaming670 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Tbh, fearow is one of my all time favorite pokemon, and i hate how pidgeot got a mega evolution, while the rest of the original normal/flying trio (fearow and dodrio) didn't

    • @EuRevTV
      @EuRevTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      red yoshi yeah that sucks, I can’t stand that hideous, fat-chicken of a Pokémon. How does it get a mega but Fearow doesn’t?!

    • @acemerceramv8561
      @acemerceramv8561 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      red yoshi i mean, except for being good Gen 2's and 3's UU, its just bad

  • @Quix0tic707
    @Quix0tic707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would give Magmortar Sheer Force and Agility. It would hit insanely hard, and could pose a threat to both defence and offence

  • @nintendosega100
    @nintendosega100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What I basically got from this video that one of my fave pokemon never stood a chance in the meta game even with a new evolution and decent moveset. For shame.

    • @LinkMaster5555
      @LinkMaster5555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah real Shame

    • @briangruenewald7536
      @briangruenewald7536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still, what a legend

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was ok in the lower tiers. So it's not all bad. Can't say the same with Electivire.

    • @josephbulkin9222
      @josephbulkin9222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So it usually is. Doesnt make Magmat any less awesome in my heart, though.

  • @Metroid4ever
    @Metroid4ever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    How GOOD was Persian ACTUALLY? Giovanni demands you to review his favorite pet!

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES! Hopefully we get lucky for next week, if not than November we shall push for 🐱😸👍!

    • @DanyBlue
      @DanyBlue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi cats friends, you remember me? Ahah 😃😃😃

    • @Metroid4ever
      @Metroid4ever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good to hear! Still love Persian's old sprite, with the ears being more triangular-shaped, but otherwise, love it after all these years (except the alolan form, it ruins the cuteness)

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where's the love for the Lati twins, dammit?!

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DanyBlue I remember you friend! We just have to keep upvoting comments asking for Persian to increase our chances of getting the Classy Cat! We are getting publicity now I've noticed. Hopefully the Patreons either happen to ask for it or we manage to pull it off in November! Go #KittySquad 🐱😸👍!

  • @guildmasterri5995
    @guildmasterri5995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Next weekend is patreon pick but how good was Persian actually?
    You should cover this in november so I can move on to piloswine and mamoswine next.

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really want Persian to happen soon! Hoping we get it in November unless the Patreons happen to ask for it... Until than we got to keep at it until we get both Persian and Piloswine/ Mamoswine 🐱😸👍!

    • @anon2447
      @anon2447 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Patreon pick? since we're basically doing a group of Pokemon we'll probably have a derpy pokemon interrupting.

    • @guildmasterri5995
      @guildmasterri5995 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anon2447
      maybe ditto?
      and Patreon picks are done the same way as youtube. A group of patrons agreed to vote as a group for a pre-selected list of Pokemon. Then one with most voted votes get a video on first weekend of month.

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@guildmasterri5995 Hey if you still want Persian to happen, than can you try to be on here tomorrow around 12:00 p.m. please (when the next video usually uploads) so that your comment will be among the first ones requesting Persian as that might make a difference. If we can get everyone who wants Persian to comment around the same time and keep upvoting each other's comments than chances of Persian being next dramatically increase! The Patreons chose Pidgeot for tomorrow, which increases our chances since it is not a mon that will start a trio or duo.Thank you so much and may we have Tweety Bird tomorrow and hopefully Sylvester and/or Piloswine/Mamoswine soon :-)👍!

    • @guildmasterri5995
      @guildmasterri5995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaidencarvalho1761 ah sure
      i really wants him to do Persian video next weekend then majority of people can move on to Mamoswine.

  • @NimhLabs
    @NimhLabs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Persian for the c-c-c-combo breaker.

  • @MistaOppritunity
    @MistaOppritunity 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey have you guys ever thought about doing an LC edition of this? It'd be interesting to see how pre evolution pokemon stack up against their fully evolved forms in terms of usefulness in their metas.

  • @theaerialacer1367
    @theaerialacer1367 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How GOOD was Jynx ACTUALLY?!? Let’s finish this Gen 1 Trio!

    • @nmacadam1410
      @nmacadam1410 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheAerialAcer no infernape must be next

  • @oscarzxn4067
    @oscarzxn4067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Thicc fat Grumpig sits on it", uh, okay

  • @SageSea1
    @SageSea1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Magmortar isnt exactly frail. It has above average special bulk and paried with an assault vest it turns into a sufficient tank. Its defense is average but hindered by its defensive typing. Whats weird though is it learns barrier (wtf?)
    Another niche is that it can boost its own speed thanks to access to flame charge backed by a decent attack that isnt completely rendered useless by a modest nature as long as ivs are existant. Couple that with its extremely good special attacking capabilities and you have a decent sweeper
    It also has acess to belly drum which can always catch somebody offguard couple that with his good attack and access to a priority move, flame charge and high BP coverage moves he is really hard to counter

    • @SageSea1
      @SageSea1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hp doesnt increase with megas

  • @josueavila5625
    @josueavila5625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How GOOD was Golem ACTUALLY?
    It's time for the old Lizard/Rock!