How GOOD were Magmar & Magmortar Actually - History of Magmar & Magmortar in Competitive Pokemon

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  • @chaosbreaker657
    @chaosbreaker657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +704

    "Magmortar fell to PU, before getting banned from this tier on account of positively nuking the entire tier."
    I don't know why, but this specific line made me laugh.

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Mel Palaganas
      PU tier: put that thing back where it came from or so help me

    • @Darth234Ravenous
      @Darth234Ravenous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv bum, bum, bum
      So help me, so help me, and cut!

    • @microwave8931
      @microwave8931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      New tier perhaps...?

    • @1doobiedoo
      @1doobiedoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      PU is like a friendly Pokémon battle at the park. Except the one guy that brought his magmortar and nuked the little girls belossom, saying “git gud scrub.”

    • @dmann5938
      @dmann5938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Magmortar deserves better

  • @DragonKazooie89
    @DragonKazooie89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +720

    I feel bad for Magmortar, probably because my shiny Magmortar I caught In Pearl without the Radar as a Magby was such a rarity because it held a Magmarizer, Female and had a Modest Mature, a 1 in on 1 Million chance of occurring.

    • @thegreatpriest8784
      @thegreatpriest8784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Can i have it??

    • @zac6876
      @zac6876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Now seems like a good time to flex my shiny sentret with pokerus I caught

    • @n.rv..n
      @n.rv..n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@zac6876 I have a shiny full IVs and a great nature salandit.... A MALE ONE!!!

    • @n.rv..n
      @n.rv..n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@zac6876 can I flex on that???

    • @Ign0rantP3rson
      @Ign0rantP3rson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@n.rv..n no because its male

  • @renownerd.276
    @renownerd.276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    When PU first came to Pokemon showdown, I ran an eviolite max special defense lava plume, clear smog, rest talk set with flame body. Clear smog got rid of stat changes, burns made its defense hold up, and its special defense was incredible. Made it to Pokemon showdown's no.1 spot in ranked for about a week. Was a fun set.

  • @JimBeamFiend53
    @JimBeamFiend53 5 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    Magmar's japanese name is Boober. Can you imagine blaine shouting that during magmars debut?

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Boober4uber

    • @ElArto95
      @ElArto95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      ok boober

    • @TheGuyWhoIsSitting
      @TheGuyWhoIsSitting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It’s more like boo baa so it may sound like he’s doing onomatopoeia for ghosts and sheep.

    • @uniqueusername677
      @uniqueusername677 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      It's also partially based on a real-life bird known as "booby." You can't make this up.

    • @nooneimportant13
      @nooneimportant13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Boober I choose you! Boober use body slam!

  • @PsyrikAntz967831
    @PsyrikAntz967831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +769

    Magmortar and Electivire would’ve seen more usage if their Speed wasn’t sacrificed in the evolution smh🤦‍♂️

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      It’s not just their speed, it’s their lack of boosting moves and good moves. Magmortar gets strong moves, but not moves with the coverage it needs(energy ball, scald, earth power, calm mind, or even nasty plot); however, it’s strength at least allows to actually be somewhat useful in wall breaking or dealing decent damage. The same can’t be said for Electivire, that guy has Magmortars problem but in reverse. Lots of coverage but really weak attacks that forsake the actually good attack stat. It’s main stab is thunder punch and nothing else. These two guys(or gals) really need boosting moves and stronger coverage options.

    • @Gotothelui
      @Gotothelui 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv exactly, They have so much potential to be stronger, I mean like.. If you have the right set on Electivire he could actually take out an Infernape like in the anime, I really wish they didn't make Electivire and Magmotar as bad as they are in Pvp

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv giving them better abilities would work too
      Electivire would like Iron Fist, Electric Surge, Galvanize and/or Adaptability even
      whiling Magmortar would like Mega Launcher, Drought and/or Sheer Force

    • @anonymousgreninja6994
      @anonymousgreninja6994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@goGothitaLOL Magmortar can't do anything with Mega Launcher.

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@anonymousgreninja6994 that's why i would give it Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse and some new Fire STAB that gets boosted by it

  • @chamber8234
    @chamber8234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    The following Pokémon have already been analyzed:
    Aerodactyl
    Alakazam
    Ampharos
    Arcanine
    Articuno
    Azumarill
    Blastoise
    Blaziken
    Breloom
    Chansey/Blissey
    Charizard
    Clefable
    Cloyster
    Donphan
    Dragonite
    Dugtrio
    Dunsparce
    Electabuzz/Electivire
    Entei
    Espeon
    Exeggutor
    Feraligatr
    Flareon
    Flygon
    Gallade
    Garchomp
    Gardevoir
    Gengar
    Gligar/Gliscor
    Golbat/Crobat
    Gyarados
    Heracross
    Houndoom
    Jolteon
    Jumpluff
    Kangaskhan
    Lapras
    Lucario
    Machamp
    Magmar/Magmortar
    Magneton/Magnezone
    Marowak
    Meganium
    Metagross
    Mew
    Mewtwo
    Milotic
    Moltres
    Nidoking
    Ninetales
    Onix/Steelix
    Pikachu
    Poliwrath
    Porygon/Porygon2
    Porygon-Z
    Quagsire
    Raichu
    Raikou
    Rhydon/Rhyperior
    Salamence
    Sceptile
    Scizor
    Seadra/Kingdra
    Shuckle
    Skarmory
    Slowbro
    Smeargle
    Sneasel/Weavile
    Snorlax
    Starmie
    Suicune
    Swampert
    Tangela/Tangrowth
    Tauros
    Tentacruel
    Togetic/Togekiss
    Typhlosion
    Tyranitar
    Umbreon
    Unown ( th-cam.com/video/qH659IHtjvU/w-d-xo.html )
    Vaporeon
    Venusaur
    Wigglytuff
    Wobbuffet
    Zapdos
    Please vote on Pokémon that are NOT seen on this list for FalseSwipeGaming’s next analytic video.

    • @fledbeast5783
      @fledbeast5783 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ShinyAlakazamPlays Wow. That’s a lot of pokemon.

    • @katacutie
      @katacutie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mvp

    • @joseamieva2168
      @joseamieva2168 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Where’s magikarp bro

    • @TheWonkster
      @TheWonkster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're doing God's work

    • @Deedj1
      @Deedj1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. Wonky *Arceus

  • @Gaurang_Karande
    @Gaurang_Karande 6 ปีที่แล้ว +457

    How GOOD was WEEZING actually?
    It's time to wrap up with Team Rocket's Pokemon

    • @TheStopShort
      @TheStopShort 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Gaurang Karande but wouldn’t arbok be the one that wraps up?

    • @bilal25680
      @bilal25680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheStopShort xDDDD

    • @Gaurang_Karande
      @Gaurang_Karande 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheStopShort Lmaoooo xd

    • @3.2187_Kilometres
      @3.2187_Kilometres 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I been asking for that for 16 weeks

    • @phoebe5114
      @phoebe5114 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have wanted this for SO long. Yes please!!

  • @punishedwhirligig3353
    @punishedwhirligig3353 6 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    How good was Weezing actually?

    • @saltinefromindiana
      @saltinefromindiana 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very fucking good is what I'd say
      That bitch is a wall with black sludge and pain split

    • @tjpokomo
      @tjpokomo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      THIS

  • @nvega899
    @nvega899 5 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    Still my favorite, wish theyd give him a mega evo to fix all that

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Same or at least Earth Power + Sheer Force

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      How awesome would be if it got nasty plot, scald, energy ball, and even aura sphere?

    • @catskills8553
      @catskills8553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Lee McDonald Flygon too, Garchomp made it obsolete

    • @somedude5097
      @somedude5097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Catskills man i agree with you magmortar, flygon and electivire should’ve gotten megas

    • @Gotothelui
      @Gotothelui 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If they gave Magmotar a Mega Evo then Electivire will as well

  • @Carlitonsp1
    @Carlitonsp1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Holy crap. Jynx still matched up to Magmortor and Electavire despite not evolving? Crazy.

    • @Kev.in1997
      @Kev.in1997 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frostitude 2 stronk

    • @houndofdoom1019
      @houndofdoom1019 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lovely kiss, and nasty plot were fantastic moves Jynx could abuse, and ice and psychic stab moves hit most Pokémon for at least neutral damage.

  • @KnufWons
    @KnufWons 6 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Let’s give Jynx some love since it’s kinda like a part of the trio with Magmar and Electabuzz!

    • @ducklett01god
      @ducklett01god ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were a trio until gen4

  • @PumPuum
    @PumPuum 6 ปีที่แล้ว +508

    How *GOOD* were *MISDREAVUS* and *MISMAGIUS* ACTUALLY?
    The original trapper *DESERVES* some recognition.

    • @pragmat1k
      @pragmat1k 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here here!

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why doesn't anybody love the Latis?!

    • @henrygutierrez3243
      @henrygutierrez3243 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Exocentric Mean Look, Perish Song

    • @HermanTG
      @HermanTG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I was just saying "Hmm, I should rewatch the Misdreavus and Mismagius" episode. I'm baffled this isn't a thing yet

    • @c.jhamblin5759
      @c.jhamblin5759 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      LETS GO! we have been waiting for literally over a year.

  • @AnarchyJunction
    @AnarchyJunction 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I actually really like the episodes that go into more detail about the lower tiers. Overused is cool and everything but it's always refreshing to hear how those lower tier mons are doing down there

  • @ZenoDovahkiin
    @ZenoDovahkiin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Magmortar looks like semiperfect Cell but on fire.

    • @aztumtheknightofwumbo7060
      @aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heh. Fish lips.

    • @mayololi
      @mayololi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So his mega evo would be Perfect Cell on fire

  • @PumperMu
    @PumperMu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Since we're on a gen 4 evolutions roll. How GOOD were Roselia & Roserade ACTUALLY?

  • @tacosupreme9762
    @tacosupreme9762 6 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    How good was Piloswine and Mamoswine

  • @teleportaat
    @teleportaat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    How FABULOUS were Roselia & Roserade ACTUALLY? 🌹

  • @primrosevale1995
    @primrosevale1995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    00:16 From Bulbapedia: (Magmar) is possibly overall based on a Karura, depicted in Japanese Hindu-Buddhist mythology as a birdlike, fire-breathing creature.

  • @Xepscern
    @Xepscern 6 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    How GOOD WAS WEEZING ACTUALLY!!!!!??!??!?!

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 6 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    How good was Jynx ACTUALLY? Jynx was the only one of these three to actually see some serious competitive use in the higher tiers, so I think that it’s deserving of a video

    • @dinosaurkin5093
      @dinosaurkin5093 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People only play her because they think blackface is funny

  • @penguinlord9984
    @penguinlord9984 6 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    How good was Infernape actually?

    • @GwnMichael
      @GwnMichael 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Swag Money Yes please

    • @JewishCowboy
      @JewishCowboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hitmonlee though

    • @penguinlord9984
      @penguinlord9984 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Myers Hitmonlee will probably come soon because there has been a ton of gen 1 lately

  • @nicholassalazar5644
    @nicholassalazar5644 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I still really like to use magmortar

    • @joehawaiianbathtoba9429
      @joehawaiianbathtoba9429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Saladbarius The wise I’ve never been able to get one cause i don’t have friends to trade with

    • @stetsonherrick8090
      @stetsonherrick8090 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joehawaiianbathtoba9429 Worst come to worst, get another DS and a another (genuine) copy of HG/SS/D/P/PL. Then have fun trading around after you get the second copy once you're able. The DS wouldn't be too costly to get if you dig around, but the genuine second copy might prove more pricey.
      (If you are playing HG/SS, it would also prove *VERY* wise to get trades going for the In Game Onix and Machop you get from NPC trades for their final evolutions. Wild Magnemite can hold Metal Coats.)

    • @dmann5938
      @dmann5938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still love it to this day

  • @FenrirWolf203
    @FenrirWolf203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This reminded me of my overheat/power shift magmortar. It was fun to use it, and passing the stat drops to the enemy helped a lot, since it forced a change and improved magmortar's survivability (Tried replicating that same thing with Altaria, but haven't seen it work the same, and with mega-altaria gone, it seems like a difficult strategy to pull off).

  • @Metroid4ever
    @Metroid4ever 6 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    How GOOD was Persian ACTUALLY? Giovanni demands you to review his favorite pet!

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES! Hopefully we get lucky for next week, if not than November we shall push for 🐱😸👍!

    • @DanyBlue
      @DanyBlue 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi cats friends, you remember me? Ahah 😃😃😃

    • @Metroid4ever
      @Metroid4ever 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good to hear! Still love Persian's old sprite, with the ears being more triangular-shaped, but otherwise, love it after all these years (except the alolan form, it ruins the cuteness)

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where's the love for the Lati twins, dammit?!

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DanyBlue I remember you friend! We just have to keep upvoting comments asking for Persian to increase our chances of getting the Classy Cat! We are getting publicity now I've noticed. Hopefully the Patreons either happen to ask for it or we manage to pull it off in November! Go #KittySquad 🐱😸👍!

  • @jjtheenton
    @jjtheenton 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    How GOOD was Persian ACTUALLY?
    Continue the Alolan variants! I WILL NEVER GIVE UP!!

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I want Persian to happen as well! We just got to keep at it! We'll get Persian soon 🐱😸!

    • @ShadeZer0
      @ShadeZer0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FOOK YES

  • @matthewluigiericson
    @matthewluigiericson 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From what I can tell it's a three way battle in the comments between Persian, jinx and pilloswine and mamoswine

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then Ludicolo came out of left field and claimed a 200+ vote lead on all of them...

    • @matthewluigiericson
      @matthewluigiericson 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dragrath1 wait really I want ludicodo in the series!

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewluigiericson The comment is gone from the top hours later so probably not. These things are rigged I swear...

    • @matthewluigiericson
      @matthewluigiericson 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dragrath1 well Hope's and dreams are fake

  • @yungmuney5903
    @yungmuney5903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel like Electivire and Magmortar (And maybe Dusknoir and Mamoswine too??) are Pokémon that deserve a much higher BST than they actually got, with their insane Pokédex lore feats, their beastial imposing design and especially regarding their pre evolution BST. Like maybe around between the Tapus/UBs and the generic mini legendary trios like the legendary birds, Swords of justice, Regis, Ho-oh's beasts etc. Like how about 575 or 585 BST? I feel like that's perfect for Electivire and Magmortar. Also give Electirizer and Magmarizer a recoiless life orb function to their respective signature family line like a slightly worse Light Ball, just for fun.

  • @1cioda
    @1cioda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Magmortar is one of my fav fire pokemon of all time. Idk why. I just love that thing. I think its the cannon arms

  • @metaloom
    @metaloom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    How GOOD were misdreavus and mismagius ACTUALLY?

  • @truevoltz7451
    @truevoltz7451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    How good was Persian actually? The most broken critting normal type in Gen 1

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree completely! Might I also add the Fastest normal type in Gen 1 (Dugtrio= fastest ground, Alakazam= fastest Psychic with the exception of Mewtwo, Aerodactyl= fastest rock/flying, Electrode/Jolteon=fastest electric types with the former being slightly faster.) Hoping we get it sometime in November, unless the Patreons happen to ask for it 🐱😸👍!

    • @truevoltz7451
      @truevoltz7451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jaiden Carvalho true, that’s the one of the main reasons it’s a crit monster, alongside slash

    • @ShadeZer0
      @ShadeZer0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FOOK YES

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@truevoltz7451 Yes and Slash is STAB for Persian so that does 50% more damage along with a critical hit 😸!

    • @inkpaladin
      @inkpaladin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm only answering for Gen 1.
      The short answer: Good, not great.
      It has a really limited move pool, and its base stats don't allow it to do mixed attacking unlike Tauros. Persian is only *slightly* faster than Tauros, but it has worse HP, ATK and DEF. Plus, thanks to the limited movepool, it's easily walled by any Rock or Ghost types (Golem, Rhydon and Gengar were meta in Gen 1 and thus easily wiped the floor with Persian, because Bite isn't Dark-type in this Gen either).
      Has nothing notable other than Slash, which is nice for wiping out Alakazam and other Psychics, but doesn't fare as well toward any other physical-based Pokemon due to being more of a glass cannon than Tauros was. Due to the nature of critical hits, its 'setup' moves (Screech, mainly) are pretty worthless since Criticals ignore ALL modifiers.
      There's only one skill set you're using with Persian, and that's:
      1) Slash
      2) Bubblebeam
      3) Thunderbolt/Thunder
      4) Optional
      4th can be either Toxic, Substitute or even Hyper Beam, depending on the user's personal tastes.
      EDIT: You might ask "but if it has Bubblebeam, why is it walled by Rock-types?" Answer: Persian's Special is weaker than Tauros's so it is not guaranteed to sweep Rhydon and Golem on contact unless it crits (despite that both have 4x Water weakness and lower Special values...)

  • @marceloSSJ
    @marceloSSJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    How GOOD was SPIKES ACTUALLY? GEN (2 ~ 7)

  • @michaeltabaka8957
    @michaeltabaka8957 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    How GOOD was Jynx ACTUALLY?!?
    We must complete the trio, or what once was a trio.

    • @DarkCT
      @DarkCT 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      im for this one. id like to see where Jynx went.

  • @serpentmaster1323
    @serpentmaster1323 6 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    How good was Persain actually!
    Lets get the gen 1 train a runnin with Kanto's critical hit king, and Alola's pretty support kitty!
    Yes, I really want to se how gen 1 pokes did, and the'll make the longest episodes because they have the longest history!
    For all yall who want Muk, Weezing, Ditto, Golem, Our Lord Helix(Omastar) Butterfree, Beedrill, Kabutops, Sandslash, Kingler, Pidgeot and Magikarp! Please vote together! (Plz be4 gen 4 takes over)
    To those who read this far, I would like to encourage the leaving of a comment thanking FalseSwipeGaming for the premium quality weekly content. Im poor, and can't be a patron, so the least I can do is thank them. Also, consider leaving a comment about the video and not just vote, and up voting other comments about the video(I feel like more people may vote for what they actually want, and not just will already win, if it takes a long time to scroll to see the voting comments)

    • @maurogonzalez6242
      @maurogonzalez6242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You didn't mention Nidoqueen in the wanted group....
      But i like cats so you get a like

    • @spinceiling7442
      @spinceiling7442 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Serpentmaster 13 gen 1 Pokemon having the longest history isn't necessarily true. It all depends on how competitively viable/interesting they were per generation

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes for Persian as well as other Gen 1 mons 🐱😸👍!

    • @serpentmaster1323
      @serpentmaster1323 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Black&Blue nah, having the most interesting history isn't true. They do have the longest history regardless of what is interesting enough to put in the video. (I caught that mistake and fixed it when I was writing this coment btw)

    • @serpentmaster1323
      @serpentmaster1323 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mauro Gonzalez Im sorry. I knew I forgot some gen 1s that people wanted. But I did remember nidoqueen when I was writing, I just remembered that nidoking had been done, and thought that logically nidoqueen should have been done too. That makes her exclusion even more of an injustice, again, Im sorry

  • @nickelwrangler446
    @nickelwrangler446 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad I could learn about my favorite pokemon

  • @past874
    @past874 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't see this said often, but great video, as usual. It's always nice to hear how all these Pokemon were in competitive.

  • @elbermoramontero2769
    @elbermoramontero2769 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    How good was Persian actually? Time to give a chance to the crit hit king of gen 1

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree! The Crit King needs his spotlight 🐱😸👍!

  • @smackjack78
    @smackjack78 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m surprised Magmortar isn’t considered a “good” Pokémon. I’ve always thought it was pretty good. I mean, it has the same Special Attack as threats like Hydreigon and Zapdos. It also has good moves, things like Fire Blast, Solar Beam, Thunderbolt, Psychic, and Focus Blast. Lastly, it has something that most Special Attackers don’t have: a priority move. Even though it is physical, Mach Punch can certainly catch a lot of foes off guard. So yeah, even though it isn’t the best, Magmortar has always been a great Pokémon in my book.

    • @lsrrr3857
      @lsrrr3857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pure Fire typing is one thing, weak to EQ and SR are really holding it back. Speed is another thing I believe. Even as an attacker you need either fast speed or enough bulk so that common moves cannot easly kill you. Magmortar's biggest strength would be good power with wide coverage, but its good power is not good enough, meaning even with super effective coverage it cannot get enough KO. Having no good boosting moves and not a damage boosting ability further limits its power.

    • @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv
      @CarlosAlberto-nq3iv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lsrrr Would giving it the sheer force ability, as well as moves like: calm mind, nasty plot, scald, energy ball, earth power, aura sphere, flash cannon, moon blast, etc. help it?

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Magmoter Problems need to be addressed
      - Bad Typing. Pure Fire isn't the worst in the world but its not awesome either. Weak to Earthquake, Stealth Rock, and Water Moves is bad
      - Slow. Its base speed is mediocre so it will likely get knocked out fast before getting a chance to nuke an opponent
      - Weak Defenses . Its bulk won't let it survive much apart from its resistances
      Arceus Fire is banned for this reason because its fast, bulky and has an expansive movepool.
      Magmorter is outclassed by Heatran, Infernape, and sometimes even Emboar. Faster, better bulk, better typing and more utility.

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was ok at the lower tier at least. But it definitely need alot of boost. At least it wasn't as bad as Electivire.

  • @phoenixlegend2771
    @phoenixlegend2771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Yeah lets go with Persion one of my favorite Cat Pokemon!

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Excellent! I want Persian as well! Just keep upvoting comments asking for it and we shall get it eventually 🐱😸👍!

  • @keenmans
    @keenmans 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    How good was LORD HELIX actually? Let's start the OG fossil train

  • @Kumaclaws
    @Kumaclaws 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Magmar is based on a Karura, a bird demon that breaths fire. Then add in that its Japanese name is boober and has a beak, so it might be mixed with ducks/boobies. It also helps that Electabuzz is based on Thunder Onis to reaffirm their connection

  • @movezig5
    @movezig5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In case you're still wondering, it's probably based in part on a blue-footed booby, as indicated by its Japanese name, "Boober." I don't see the resemblance, though.

  • @Kefkaownsall
    @Kefkaownsall 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Why didn't Magmortor get a fire ver of. Motor drive

    • @spectral5939
      @spectral5939 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Cause that'd be too op.
      (not really... But still good)

  • @hugorodrigues9206
    @hugorodrigues9206 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bird Jesus next pls

  • @darklightning2730
    @darklightning2730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:04
    False Swipe Gaming: Moltres and Charizard don’t get destroyed by Dugtrio.
    Me: What if Dugtrio has Rock Slide?

    • @Lol-il8uc
      @Lol-il8uc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that needed high prediction cause one wrong play could lose you a mon whereas mol and char switch out without much loss

  • @krvys7226
    @krvys7226 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Continue the gen1/gen4 trend with "how good are Lickitung/ Lickilicki actually"

  • @Shinobi_Master
    @Shinobi_Master 6 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    how GOOD was Persian Actually?

    • @nathancurnutt8074
      @nathancurnutt8074 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bad. It was bad.

    • @ShadeZer0
      @ShadeZer0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      FOOK YES

    • @jennyrae8771
      @jennyrae8771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yippee! I want Persian as well! Go #KittySquad 😺!

    • @catelyntully9494
      @catelyntully9494 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nathancurnutt8074 Well for the record it was freaking amaizing in Gen 1, after that... well I think he had some sets that made it shine in low tiers sometimes.

    • @jennyrae8771
      @jennyrae8771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Bendyrulz I get your point as it would be nice to see a Pokemon that would be great overall, but people can ask for whatever Pokemon they wish to be next whether they suck or not. Persian might not even get next week since it is Patreon Pick, though I still hope we can get it in November. With that being said hopefully you and I both get the Pokemon we want :-)!

  • @yukikanehira7774
    @yukikanehira7774 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    How GOOD was Persian ACTUALLY?

  • @ghostyoda7379
    @ghostyoda7379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember I once made a dumb set to counter Baton Pass teams in gen 8. Magmortar was part of it, it had:
    - Belly Drum
    - Flame Charge
    - Earthquake
    - (I don't remember this one)

  • @Sazandora123
    @Sazandora123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video should be renamed to "How OKAY were Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?"

  • @tautop1222
    @tautop1222 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    How good was Jynx actually?

  • @draaideur2358
    @draaideur2358 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    How GOOD was Persian actually?

  • @snapclub8751
    @snapclub8751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Whenever I managed to get a Magmortar, I always named it Arm Cannons.

  • @liplaygames5591
    @liplaygames5591 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Magmortar is one of my favorite Pokemons of all time.

  • @theaerialacer1367
    @theaerialacer1367 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How GOOD was Jynx ACTUALLY?!? Let’s finish this Gen 1 Trio!

    • @nmacadam1410
      @nmacadam1410 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheAerialAcer no infernape must be next

  • @scarletredder
    @scarletredder 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How good were roselia and roserade ACTUALLY?

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe after the patreon pick (hopefully)

  • @oscarzxn4067
    @oscarzxn4067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Thicc fat Grumpig sits on it", uh, okay

  • @DJTHED
    @DJTHED 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is one bird who has been cursed since its inception. It has sat in the UU Ban List for every generation it has been in, the only Pokemon ever to be like this.
    So... How GOOD was Staraptor ACTUALLY?

  • @0rcinus_orca22
    @0rcinus_orca22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    How GOOD were Piloswine and Mamoswine ACTUALLY?

  • @ghost_type_gaming670
    @ghost_type_gaming670 6 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    How MEDIOCRE was fearow ACTUALLY?

    • @voidfields5065
      @voidfields5065 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GOD AWFUL is what you are looking for hahaha

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@voidfields5065 Well it does have some nice toys like natural access to Ground Coverage in Drill Run(by level up no less)
      And with access to focus energy in gen 7 and its Hidden Ability Sniper, Focus Energy+Sniper Works pretty well it just lacks an actually usable stab move with a boosted crit rate... (It does get Sky attack but the move is just bad...)
      Now if GF gave Drill Peck a boosted crit rate(currently it has no added effects) and perhaps Slash (even if slash is a bit too weak to the point where like all other slash variants it is envious of Leafblade's +20 power buff)
      Without that Guaranteed Crit it is kinda lackluster nowadays as 90(Atk)/100(Spd) offenses are its only really usable stats. It is a lot better off than other Pokemon were its just heavily outclassed and crushed by Power Creep...

    • @ghost_type_gaming670
      @ghost_type_gaming670 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Tbh, fearow is one of my all time favorite pokemon, and i hate how pidgeot got a mega evolution, while the rest of the original normal/flying trio (fearow and dodrio) didn't

    • @EuRevTV
      @EuRevTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      red yoshi yeah that sucks, I can’t stand that hideous, fat-chicken of a Pokémon. How does it get a mega but Fearow doesn’t?!

    • @doubleace11554
      @doubleace11554 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      red yoshi i mean, except for being good Gen 2's and 3's UU, its just bad

  • @Quix0tic707
    @Quix0tic707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would give Magmortar Sheer Force and Agility. It would hit insanely hard, and could pose a threat to both defence and offence

  • @psychichoodlem3501
    @psychichoodlem3501 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In x and y my magmortar helped me win online tournament matches. He was a beast

  • @adrianavila9132
    @adrianavila9132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Don't be like Nintendo and leave jynx in the dark. HOW GOOD WAS JYNX !!!!

  • @svensksotnos
    @svensksotnos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    How GOOD was Persian ACTUALLY?!

  • @ThatRedDood
    @ThatRedDood 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    How good was the second-hand of Giovanni? Persian next?

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Top Cat/ Team Rocket Mascot shall soon come 🐱😸👍!

  • @skoolwifi3835
    @skoolwifi3835 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If they gave this thing a mega it should gain another typing such as ground or steel. It should also be given a signature move like heatmor did.

  • @1128nesecret
    @1128nesecret 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Magmar is in my top 3 favorite fire types , the top 3 always move around alot so I don't have a set order for them

  • @dakpartain5850
    @dakpartain5850 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Okay, now can we finally find out how good Persian was actually? The speed-crit king of gen 1 needs some love. Just ignore the Alolan form though...

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hopefully we get it in November unless the Patreons ask for it... Until then we got to keep at it until we get Persian 🐱🐱🐱!

  • @joshl.8165
    @joshl.8165 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Rip magmortar. I think we need to find out how good Persian actually was now.

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey if you still want Persian to be next, could you comment on the next video around 12:00 p.m. (the time when the next video usually uploads)? That is if you want Persian of course as it is your decision to make in what Pokemon you ask for, but if you happen to be interested in Persian than it will help us out. If not I understand and respect your choice and hope you get the Pokemon you wish to have soon! Hope you have a great week :-)👍!

  • @randomeurovisionstuff2026
    @randomeurovisionstuff2026 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    *So How good was Latias actually*
    NOW!!!!!

  • @jennyrae8771
    @jennyrae8771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    How *GOOD* was *Persian* ACTUALLY? #KittySquad 😺!

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the Spirit! We just got to keep at it! We are gaining publicity at least 😸👍!

    • @drefiv3375
      @drefiv3375 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its bad, except gen 1 where it crits alot There

    • @jennyrae8771
      @jennyrae8771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Dani el Dani Hoping we get it as well, if not we keep going 😺!

    • @jennyrae8771
      @jennyrae8771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jaidencarvalho1761 True we are getting popularity 😺!

    • @jennyrae8771
      @jennyrae8771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@drefiv3375 We would still like an in depth episode about it regardless of how it did. I personally would like to see how it stacked up compares to other mons.

  • @IceSpoon
    @IceSpoon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jynx is the forgotten sister in the "elementary punches" trio of RBY. We need that!

  • @Mariokemon
    @Mariokemon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The neglected third member of this once Special Attacking Trio needs some love. How Good was Jynx Actually

  • @yuiotj
    @yuiotj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How good was Persian Actually?

  • @bilal25680
    @bilal25680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    How good were YANMA AND/OR YANMEGA ACTUALLY?
    Can you guys help me out?

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe after the patreon pick (hopefully)

  • @brokenrayquaza5784
    @brokenrayquaza5784 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:58 I guess they never miss huh

  • @IfYouNeedAnEdge
    @IfYouNeedAnEdge 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How good was Roserade actually? I have a lot of nostalgia for this dude, i remember even running a gimmicky technician set with Leaf Storm/Hidden Power/Spikes to beef up it’s hidden power damage against whatever your team was weak against. Worked well in any weather (flexing the Hidden Power between Ground/Ice/Fire/fighting depending on what your team needed), helps provide momentum with spikes, good against all the weath setters (depending on Hidden Power and last move in the case of Ninetales).

  • @kevinhoyek1101
    @kevinhoyek1101 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How good was infernape actually PLEASE???????!!!!!!

  • @SageSea1
    @SageSea1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Magmortar isnt exactly frail. It has above average special bulk and paried with an assault vest it turns into a sufficient tank. Its defense is average but hindered by its defensive typing. Whats weird though is it learns barrier (wtf?)
    Another niche is that it can boost its own speed thanks to access to flame charge backed by a decent attack that isnt completely rendered useless by a modest nature as long as ivs are existant. Couple that with its extremely good special attacking capabilities and you have a decent sweeper
    It also has acess to belly drum which can always catch somebody offguard couple that with his good attack and access to a priority move, flame charge and high BP coverage moves he is really hard to counter

    • @SageSea1
      @SageSea1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hp doesnt increase with megas

  • @Alexs23743
    @Alexs23743 ปีที่แล้ว

    For what it's worth, I once came up with ideas for Mega Evolutions for Magmortar and Electivire.
    Magmortar would've been Fire/Psychic, have Desolate Land, and most of the stat points would've been dumped on the special side (175 Special Attack/110 Special Defense/98 Speed), while Electivire would've been Electric/Fighting and have most of its stat points dumped on the physical side (163 Attack/107 Defense/125 Speed). Electivire's ability was a fan-made one that I created to summon a similarly fan-made weather condition that would boost Electric types in a slightly better way than Rain Dance.
    But wait! There's more! Those of you who think Electivire and Magmortar are part of a trio might be glad to know I also came up with a Mega Jynx once, that would've been Ice/Dark, have base 165 SpAtk/145 SpDef, and Snow Warning. That might be a downgrade from base Jynx, though...

  • @mrinfinity5557
    @mrinfinity5557 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How good was aggron?

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe after the patreon pick (hopefully)

  • @dragooncroft
    @dragooncroft 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    How good was stantler actually?

    • @BOGSNIPERfromPS3
      @BOGSNIPERfromPS3 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stanler mmmm always gave it shadow ball and stomp and it just destroyed everything lul but then again idk about the competitive scene

  • @libertarianteletubbie8725
    @libertarianteletubbie8725 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    How GOOD was Scyther ACTUALLY
    OR
    How GOOD was Pinsir ACTUALLY

    • @marcocortes3279
      @marcocortes3279 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scizor already done

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marcocortes3279 Sizor was done but Scyther was excluded "because their roles are so distinct"or whatever so no Scyther has not been covered sadly

    • @KahunaLagoona
      @KahunaLagoona 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marcocortes3279 Scizor was, but Scyther wasn't covered in that video - they said they would do a video for Scyther later on.

  • @DillaWorld
    @DillaWorld ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magmar and magmorter is more of a story tool like if you need a fire type on the team but you can't find one.

  • @bankrollrastaman7060
    @bankrollrastaman7060 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How GOOD was Piloswine/Mamoswine ACTUALLY?
    Let's keep the Gen 4 evo's going!!!!

    • @serpentmaster1323
      @serpentmaster1323 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The heck! how did I never know that swinub was gen 2? Thanks for enlightening me!

    • @justjaqualin7623
      @justjaqualin7623 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zay Richardson
      Yaaasssssss !!

  • @Snugboat
    @Snugboat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do the one part of teh trio who was dropped.
    How good was Jinx actually?

  • @marks9082
    @marks9082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magmar was my favourite pokemon as a child

  • @ceroluthor
    @ceroluthor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where's my Piloswine/Mamoswine?! Continue with the Gen 4 chaos!

  • @elementz6490
    @elementz6490 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How good was LORD HELIX actually?

  • @joshuachadwick-birch8319
    @joshuachadwick-birch8319 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How good was pidgeot acctually!!!!

  • @reginaldbarnes4791
    @reginaldbarnes4791 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    How good was Ditto ACTUALLY?! I will never give up

  • @coltsfan354
    @coltsfan354 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Keep the train going.
    How good was Yanma/Yanmega actually.

  • @nh5264
    @nh5264 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Meow meow Persian wants to be next

  • @KnufWons
    @KnufWons 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How good was Pidgeot actually?

  • @Wolfism
    @Wolfism 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Pleeeease, do Persian the next time🐈🐈

    • @jaidencarvalho1761
      @jaidencarvalho1761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hopefully either the Patreons ask for it or we pull it off in November... Until then we got to keep at it until we get Persian 🐱🐱🐱!

    • @jennyrae8771
      @jennyrae8771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      #KittySquad 😺!

    • @abhijeetpandule5102
      @abhijeetpandule5102 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes I support Persian

    • @ukog9
      @ukog9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jaiden Carvalho lp

  • @Lord_KillerBee
    @Lord_KillerBee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Magmar, Electabuzz and Jynx were also meant to be representatives of the legendary bird trio: fire, electric and ice. But much like brother Electabuzz, Magmar loses some speed upon evolving into Magmortar in exchange for a greater amount of firepower whilst still having the same weaknesses as both Magby and Magmar.

  • @HeroStevyn
    @HeroStevyn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ducks have bills, not beaks. Honestly, I don't know how much information I can trust on this channel anymore because of that...

  • @Cheekywill
    @Cheekywill 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How good was jynx?

  • @tedscheett9420
    @tedscheett9420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sorry, but when I look at the Gen 2 Magmar sprite, I instinctively say "Noot Noot!"

  • @wraith6233
    @wraith6233 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How GOOD was SPIRIT TOMB ACTUALLY ?

  • @alanchavez5962
    @alanchavez5962 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here’s a plug for the metal dinosaur who plants trees- Aggron!!