I drove past that scene (7:03) at the charging station and thought "who the heck parks like that?", then I saw the bike and the beanie and decided all was good.
Oh nice! Haha we got really lucky that so many spots were available, but I found out the station at Moore Wilsons has the BEST space for pulling in sideways with a trailer.
I got the same setup as you. I upgraded the rear shock with the ohlins. Only energica had them. About $900. Made a HUGE difference. Definitely recommend.
Ohlins for sure 👍🏼 and maybe a pair of lighter magnesium wheels? 🤔 Can’t hurt! (Oh, and an EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra in the Tesla to top off between runs!⚡️)
Incredible riding. Those close calls on the corners had me on the edge of my seat. Hopefully everything is kosher, definitely a cliffhanger. I'm bummed that we didn't get to see you on the course!
Gotta say, the balls - and skills - required to take those corners at speed on a road like that is truly awe-inspiring. Hope your friend, and everyone else who raced, are okay.
Hey I've run into that issue with Tesla chargers before, turns out it's usually a grounding issue! If there's some way you can ground the generator it might work for ya!
Exactly. There's a guy who built an adapter to trick the Tesla charger to work off a generator. But probably best just to get a dumber Non-tesla charger.
Tesla camp mode: Energy use depends if you have a heat pump or not. In my Model S you can fit a single bed mattress, it has no heat pump and the worst on a frosty night was a loss of 20% SOC staying warm and cosy.
@@NewZeroland you can't get the one with the big reservoir on the side as it wont fit on the Ribelle, only the Ego. The standard one they make fits perfectly on the Ribelle. Just put it on a centerstand that lifts up the battery, put it on rear stands and changing the shock is an easy one person job that takes less than 5 minutes
Very Cool. Think a visit to KSS in New Plymouth would be worthwhile to get a decent suspension set up. Done three of my bikes, ya go from bumpity bump to zippity zip zip with a shed load more control, comfort and handling (for road, track and touring as fully adjustable). Hope all is OK and just a battery cut out, not the 'other'.
Awesome stuff, it's like you need to tune it down 10% to make it last. Too fast/ then not fast enough - just want it just fast all the time 😂. Was it maybe a temp issue 🤔
Also, I'd love to know what's wrong with that generator. Pity the Tesla doesn't have vehicle-to-load! The alternate approach I've seen is to get a 2KW inverter and hook it up to a couple of 12V batteries. Caravan shops have this kind of equipment all the time.
Cliffhanger is an understatement! I hope the bike & rider are ok?🙏 What a spectacular event! Is it just for bikes only or is there a car event too? Thanks Sam!
During the full run, I couldn't help but wonder what the meaning of the the indicator light were? There was quite a light show going on at several points.
Hope driver’s ok. What I hear about power loss, could that be related to bus bar issues in the battery? My mid 21 RS needed those replaced: DC issues and power loss. Keep up the good work!
AHH these cliffhanger, drive me crazy lol. The footage of the full run however was soo nice. He rides very well! Did you use horizontal lock on the gopro to get that nice recording?
That generator reminded me of a video The Hacksmith channel did were they put a gas engine on a Onewheel to charge the battery on the go and extend it's range. Geez, those times were ridiculous, I hope what ever happened wasn't serious. Curse you, cliffhangers!
Exciting. Generators are pretty much only good for the tire warmers. Looks like it'd be a fun course mostly straight as I notice the bike wasn't even leaning much. That is the biggest challenge I've found with electrics is they cheap out on the suspension so much and it's so hard to overcome the immense weight still.
@mt-10ofnz60 I see that, but even though you'd normally be turning through those corners there are a couple of areas where a bike on a closed road turns them into a high speed straight (e.g. 10:02-10:25) is what I'm talking about. Looked like about 18 major corners (I know officially there's more) in the video you posted of your run. We've got some pretty awesome climbs up the mountains around here that look similar (more like 60km long), but we usually put our bikes down to about 45º more like you do. I really wouldn't want to be on my Energica at much more than 30º though, so I think that's definitely what's holding it back the most.
Honestly, the only straight bit is up to turn 2. The gopro makes everything look wider. Here's the fastest run ever up the Cliffhanger th-cam.com/video/KubGVzd64rg/w-d-xo.html
@@MrScracha Damn that's fast, at those speeds even gentle curves are sharp. Hard to believe that was over a decade ago, our tire compounds and motorcycle technology has improved so much since then, but no match for raw talent.
Charging on Gen: The EV charger checks for an Earth (PE) - Neutral (N) link. This is usually done in your switch board. That mean the Gen does not have that link. Solution is to make up a special cable where Neutral and Earth are connected (only to be used for this application) and Bob is your uncle. Solution 2: Get a Juice Booster Type 2 charger. Those come with a Norway mode, where no PE-N link is required.
Not related to this video at all, but I have nowhere else to turn. My 2017 Zero SR is in need of new tires. The stock tires are Pirelli Diablo Rosso IIs.... 3" front (110/70-17), and 3.5" rear (140/70-17). As I use the bike 100% for commuting, and my local roads are crap... I'm wondering if going with larger tires front and rear would make sense? I'm looking at the Michelin "Road 6" tires, as they seem to be the "it" tires for sport touring (which I equate to good 'around town tires' vs. the stock 'track-ish' tires.). As for "nowhere else to turn", I reached out to Zeor directly and all the could say was "we can't comment on any other tire but the stock tire". Dissapointing. My local Zero dealer is zero help. So I thought I'd ask here, to see if NewZeroland had any thougts on wider tires for an SR, or if anyone could recommend a great 'city tire' for my new rubber. Thanks...!!!
Man that's a tough one.. I've seen people run 150's on the back, but that's about as wide as you can go without hitting the belt. Michelin Road 6 tires are great and last way longer. I approve of this idea!
@@NewZeroland Not only was this response done quicker than BOTH Zero direct, and my Zero dealer - it actually had useful information. It's just too bad I live an ocean away, otherwise I'd buy NewZeroland the beer he deserves....
My SS9 had pretty much no rear rebound from the factory, but I had the adjustable shock and was able to dial it up - much better ride, more controllable.
mmh on the full run way up engine light was on and TC red led indication stayed on on the straights, which usually does not happen on TC2, weird. Hope the bike and the rider are ok
Dang nabit, you and cliffhangers. Okay, done some stupid stuff but watching that run was thinking that is ballsey and crazy fast for the road. Hope with your cliff hanger nothing happened to your friend or the bike like a crash.
Shit I get scared at 100kph on the NZ road surfaces, North Island must have better chip seal and less pot holes 😜 Also a true cliffhanger at the end there
People keep saying the South Island has a rougher surface, but I feel like the bumps and potholes make the North Island waaaay worse. You have the best roads down there!
You saying "Fun for the whole family" while a vehicle with "porn" on it roles on screen is funny :D Also wooooo! It's so exciting to see what a skilled rider can get out of these machines :D
I think the issue is you need a special adapter plug to fool the Tesla charge cable to think it's plugged into a grounded outlet - without that charging won't work from a generator.
The Tesla charger didn't work because the generator has a floating ground. They make a little plug you can get from Amazon or wherever that you can plug into a different outlet on the generator and it will tie the ground and neutral together which will make the charger happy.
I just hope the rider is ok - though I do think that you wouldn't be so light-hearted about it if something really bad had happend. With all those long-winding corners, it looks like a track my Model S could more or less survive. Not with me driving, though. I'm a 43 year old man with only about 80 pct brain tissue left. About that Pirelli made in China thing: Pirelli has been a plaything of Chinese stock holders since 2015 (complicated story), so it's no surprise that (part of) the production takes place in China. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirelli)
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I drove past that scene (7:03) at the charging station and thought "who the heck parks like that?", then I saw the bike and the beanie and decided all was good.
Oh nice! Haha we got really lucky that so many spots were available, but I found out the station at Moore Wilsons has the BEST space for pulling in sideways with a trailer.
The cliffhanger on the cliffhanger
Had to 😅
The suspense!! 😬
The MOST appropriate pairing of a video comment & title, I've seen on TH-cam in quite some time.
Man this is so cool…the cliffhanger tho! Hope everything is alright
Thanks for watching bro! Had to add some suspense 😂
You’re killing me! That feeling of your buddy being late back on your bike is the worst
The cliffhanger cliffhanger! XD
I'm such a commuter, that scares the crap out of me to watch. hah.
I hope you get the bike put back together soon!
The suspense of waiting for a new video is killing me.
Just finished the video and found out there isn't any follow up after 3 months, the suspense is strong indeed.
Commenting from the grave because the suspense was too much and I am now deceased 💀
cliffhangers are what makes this show the best.. I am half expecting to see him walking back with the bike across his shoulders😅
Bwahaha thank you! I couldn't help myself.
@@NewZeroland 😁😅
I got the same setup as you. I upgraded the rear shock with the ohlins. Only energica had them. About $900. Made a HUGE difference. Definitely recommend.
Great to hear that! I need to upgrade.
@@NewZeroland good to hear! That means your friend didn't crash!
Ohlins for sure 👍🏼 and maybe a pair of lighter magnesium wheels? 🤔 Can’t hurt!
(Oh, and an EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra in the Tesla to top off between runs!⚡️)
I Run Nitron here in NZ, they can custom make you a shock and if you buy the R3 you get high and low compression adjustment.
I might have a takeoff for you, I'll send you a message somewhere tomorrow (is the forum still dead?)
God, the banshee howl of that motor at speed is just awesome! Chills just listening to it! But damn you @NewZeroland and your cliff hangers!
😂🤣 right?? Electric motorcycles can be loud!
Incredible riding. Those close calls on the corners had me on the edge of my seat. Hopefully everything is kosher, definitely a cliffhanger. I'm bummed that we didn't get to see you on the course!
Right?? Terrifying. I definitely want to ride it next year.. on a different bike.
Oh man.... way to leave us hanging! I hope everything is okay!! That full run looked fast.
What a cliffhanger... hope everything is okay.
I like the Zelda sound when you displayed the cold temperature.
Haha that old man grunt fits so many situations
Gotta say, the balls - and skills - required to take those corners at speed on a road like that is truly awe-inspiring. Hope your friend, and everyone else who raced, are okay.
That unedited run was hypnotizing. Awesome.
Right?? Soooo fast O_O
love these racing videos and the tech that goes with it
I hope everyone is ok. Been a while now and Sam’s been quiet on all fronts. Makes me worry.
I came here just to ask if Sam is all good.
The generator issue is a lack of ground/neutral bond. The Tesla cable is really picky about it.
Hey I've run into that issue with Tesla chargers before, turns out it's usually a grounding issue! If there's some way you can ground the generator it might work for ya!
Exactly. There's a guy who built an adapter to trick the Tesla charger to work off a generator. But probably best just to get a dumber Non-tesla charger.
@@CRPerformance1 Oh interesting, wonder how that adapter works
@@mv2woods I'll try to find it. And let you know.
@@mv2woodsthe generator has a floating ground, the adapter will tie the ground and neutral together.
@@GregHassler oh really? That's all it takes to make it work. Good to know!
Tesla camp mode: Energy use depends if you have a heat pump or not. In my Model S you can fit a single bed mattress, it has no heat pump and the worst on a frosty night was a loss of 20% SOC staying warm and cosy.
Oooo good to know! I only had 40% so I was a little concerned. Next time I'll charge up fully and keep it running.
I'm a big guy and the rear suspension just couldn't handle me, way too soft. I got a new shock/spring from epm and it now rides so much smoother.
Oooo good to know! I'm glad there are a few options available now.
@@NewZeroland you can't get the one with the big reservoir on the side as it wont fit on the Ribelle, only the Ego. The standard one they make fits perfectly on the Ribelle. Just put it on a centerstand that lifts up the battery, put it on rear stands and changing the shock is an easy one person job that takes less than 5 minutes
This video brought to you by the power of my FIRST commentary.
Very Cool. Think a visit to KSS in New Plymouth would be worthwhile to get a decent suspension set up. Done three of my bikes, ya go from bumpity bump to zippity zip zip with a shed load more control, comfort and handling (for road, track and touring as fully adjustable). Hope all is OK and just a battery cut out, not the 'other'.
Good to know! Thanks for the heads up.
Beast of a bike with even more beast of a rider. I can barely watch him take those bends! Hope all is OK 🤞
OH MY GAD!!...........A CLIFFHANGER AT CLIFFHANGER?!?!?! 😱🤯
🤣😂
Awesome stuff, it's like you need to tune it down 10% to make it last. Too fast/ then not fast enough - just want it just fast all the time 😂. Was it maybe a temp issue 🤔
The battery definitely got into the yellow, but it was more that the power gradually drops as the voltage drops.
Also, I'd love to know what's wrong with that generator. Pity the Tesla doesn't have vehicle-to-load! The alternate approach I've seen is to get a 2KW inverter and hook it up to a couple of 12V batteries. Caravan shops have this kind of equipment all the time.
That's a good idea! 2kW would be enough to keep it topped up between runs.
Cliffhanger is an understatement!
I hope the bike & rider are ok?🙏
What a spectacular event! Is it just for bikes only or is there a car event too?
Thanks Sam!
Haha right?? Bikes only for this one. There are some other hillclimbs in NZ for cars.
Rodonkabdoodle
You could have covered the motorcycle for the night and keep the battery loosing less heat during the night
It was ok.. the battery heated up faster than we wanted 🤣
We´re still waiting .....🤔
That looks so fun. A twisty road, a bike, and no speed limit....... hell yeah. 🤘 Hope things are OK ?? I guess I'll have to wait to find out.
Insane, right?? It's such an amazing event. I wish it was more often than only once a year.
This is so friggen awesome Sam, but the suspense is killing me😬
Don't worry. The rider and the bike are ok. What happened in the end was...
During the full run, I couldn't help but wonder what the meaning of the the indicator light were? There was quite a light show going on at several points.
Yeah that was the traction control. We left it on level 2 just to be safe.
Hope driver’s ok. What I hear about power loss, could that be related to bus bar issues in the battery? My mid 21 RS needed those replaced: DC issues and power loss. Keep up the good work!
Nah, it's probably something to keep the battery safe. But also as the voltage drops, you have less power. That's just how it is.
Electric blanket in your sleeping bag on the 12v socket :)
That cliffhanger!!!! Noooooooo
Good idea!!
I have missed the long videos. And of course a cliffhanger on the cliffhanger video. Way to build the suspense man. 🤨
Haha cheers! Had to do it XD
That's just way too scary.
I scuff up my knee sliders on the road, so i don't exactly hang about, but that road is just way way way scary.
Oh wow! I've still never gotten my knees down. It's a life goal.
AHH these cliffhanger, drive me crazy lol.
The footage of the full run however was soo nice. He rides very well!
Did you use horizontal lock on the gopro to get that nice recording?
Thanks! Nope, just the normal stabilization.
That generator reminded me of a video The Hacksmith channel did were they put a gas engine on a Onewheel to charge the battery on the go and extend it's range. Geez, those times were ridiculous, I hope what ever happened wasn't serious. Curse you, cliffhangers!
This is so cool.
Oh dear, oh so quite :(
Watching this makes me wish I was never hit by a car, I want to go riding so bad watching this video. Did you record any of your runs?
I didn't ride this time, but next year for sure. How are you healing up??
Exciting. Generators are pretty much only good for the tire warmers. Looks like it'd be a fun course mostly straight as I notice the bike wasn't even leaning much. That is the biggest challenge I've found with electrics is they cheap out on the suspension so much and it's so hard to overcome the immense weight still.
I can reassure you it's definitely not just straight 27 corners 6.1km long and climb 300 meters in elevation. Gopro doesn't do it justice.
@mt-10ofnz60 I see that, but even though you'd normally be turning through those corners there are a couple of areas where a bike on a closed road turns them into a high speed straight (e.g. 10:02-10:25) is what I'm talking about. Looked like about 18 major corners (I know officially there's more) in the video you posted of your run. We've got some pretty awesome climbs up the mountains around here that look similar (more like 60km long), but we usually put our bikes down to about 45º more like you do. I really wouldn't want to be on my Energica at much more than 30º though, so I think that's definitely what's holding it back the most.
Honestly, the only straight bit is up to turn 2. The gopro makes everything look wider. Here's the fastest run ever up the Cliffhanger th-cam.com/video/KubGVzd64rg/w-d-xo.html
@@MrScracha Damn that's fast, at those speeds even gentle curves are sharp. Hard to believe that was over a decade ago, our tire compounds and motorcycle technology has improved so much since then, but no match for raw talent.
Charging on Gen: The EV charger checks for an Earth (PE) - Neutral (N) link. This is usually done in your switch board. That mean the Gen does not have that link. Solution is to make up a special cable where Neutral and Earth are connected (only to be used for this application) and Bob is your uncle.
Solution 2: Get a Juice Booster Type 2 charger. Those come with a Norway mode, where no PE-N link is required.
Yep, that makes sense. I should have tested it before hauling that heavy generator all the way out there.
Not related to this video at all, but I have nowhere else to turn. My 2017 Zero SR is in need of new tires. The stock tires are Pirelli Diablo Rosso IIs.... 3" front (110/70-17), and 3.5" rear (140/70-17). As I use the bike 100% for commuting, and my local roads are crap... I'm wondering if going with larger tires front and rear would make sense? I'm looking at the Michelin "Road 6" tires, as they seem to be the "it" tires for sport touring (which I equate to good 'around town tires' vs. the stock 'track-ish' tires.). As for "nowhere else to turn", I reached out to Zeor directly and all the could say was "we can't comment on any other tire but the stock tire". Dissapointing. My local Zero dealer is zero help. So I thought I'd ask here, to see if NewZeroland had any thougts on wider tires for an SR, or if anyone could recommend a great 'city tire' for my new rubber. Thanks...!!!
Man that's a tough one.. I've seen people run 150's on the back, but that's about as wide as you can go without hitting the belt. Michelin Road 6 tires are great and last way longer. I approve of this idea!
@@NewZeroland Not only was this response done quicker than BOTH Zero direct, and my Zero dealer - it actually had useful information. It's just too bad I live an ocean away, otherwise I'd buy NewZeroland the beer he deserves....
I would normally say "needs more explosions", but I'm not so sure on this one....
🤣 Cliff!! I've missed you man. How are ya??
@@NewZeroland Doing very well thank you Sir. Hopefully our paths cross again soon!
My SS9 had pretty much no rear rebound from the factory, but I had the adjustable shock and was able to dial it up - much better ride, more controllable.
I definitely need an upgrade. I've heard there are some nice aftermarket options now, too.
Very dope
⚡️Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 💨
Hey Sam it’s been a while, any new videos in the pipeline?
mmh on the full run way up engine light was on and TC red led indication stayed on on the straights, which usually does not happen on TC2, weird. Hope the bike and the rider are ok
I dunno.. I've seen all kinds of lights even with TC turned off. Nothing flashing though, just solid.
Dang nabit, you and cliffhangers. Okay, done some stupid stuff but watching that run was thinking that is ballsey and crazy fast for the road. Hope with your cliff hanger nothing happened to your friend or the bike like a crash.
Haha I had to do it. Cliffhanger after the Cliffhanger. Well, let's just say, I won't be riding this bike in next year's event.
11:28 and not a derpy kitten speedometer to be seen :3
😂😁
Shit I get scared at 100kph on the NZ road surfaces, North Island must have better chip seal and less pot holes 😜
Also a true cliffhanger at the end there
People keep saying the South Island has a rougher surface, but I feel like the bumps and potholes make the North Island waaaay worse. You have the best roads down there!
@@NewZeroland ha true. I can't wait to ride in 3rd world countries again and have smooth roads
You saying "Fun for the whole family" while a vehicle with "porn" on it roles on screen is funny :D
Also wooooo! It's so exciting to see what a skilled rider can get out of these machines :D
HAHA I'm glad you liked that :D
Brilliant haha
Maybe next time the 6'2 Galar might have slimmed down 10plus Kgs, that could always help :)
9:57 could you maybe try shielding the mic from wind noise?
Great video by the way!
Yeah we should have tried an external audio recorder in his suit or something. Next time.
stock suspension (mainly rear) is so bad....even going slow on bad roads
Luckily no kangaroos!😊
THAT would have been exciting
Are you using an adapter or was your Tesla charger plugged in directly?
Probably directly - the Tesla UMC comes with a Type 2/Mennekes plug in New Zealand, not NACS.
I think the issue is you need a special adapter plug to fool the Tesla charge cable to think it's plugged into a grounded outlet - without that charging won't work from a generator.
J'espère qu'il n'y a rien de grave 😮
temporary take off the license plate, that thing is huge with lots of wind drag
That's another second, easy.
Perhaps I am missing something. But two months of hanging on this cliff seems cruel and unusual
I subscribed because I want to know what's going on
Pretty sure I saw this bike for sale on Trademe since this video was posted. So it's not broken at least!
The Tesla charger didn't work because the generator has a floating ground. They make a little plug you can get from Amazon or wherever that you can plug into a different outlet on the generator and it will tie the ground and neutral together which will make the charger happy.
That makes so much sense! I should have brought my other cable. Welp, next time.
@@NewZerolandmy advice is US centric but I imagine it has to be a similar issue.
You can’t do this!
Hahaha
Hi Sam, hope you and Steven are well, how are things? @newzeroland
I just hope the rider is ok - though I do think that you wouldn't be so light-hearted about it if something really bad had happend.
With all those long-winding corners, it looks like a track my Model S could more or less survive. Not with me driving, though. I'm a 43 year old man with only about 80 pct brain tissue left.
About that Pirelli made in China thing: Pirelli has been a plaything of Chinese stock holders since 2015 (complicated story), so it's no surprise that (part of) the production takes place in China. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirelli)
Ahh that makes sense! And yeah, no worries. The rider is ok :D