Midjourney CREF Deep Dive | Consistent Character Ultimate Guide | Midjourney v6 Tips
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✨ Midjourney Cref Deep Dive - Midjourney V6 Character Reference Parameter!✨
Midjourney's Character Reference is a huge step toward creating images with characters that are truly consistent with a reference.
Watch this video to learn how to get the most out of Midjourney's Character Reference parameter --cref. I walk you through everything from the basics of Character Reference, unique applications, and creating images with multiple reference characters.
This video was a bit of a beast to put together. There are so many nuanced ways to use Character Reference, so please let me know if you have any questions about it.
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00:00 Intro
00:32 Basics: How to Use Cref (--cref)
01:31 Multiple Scenes and Poses
01:52 Character Weight (--cw)
03:00 Using Cref on Midjourney's Website
03:33 Transfer Character to Different Styles
04:24 Using Character Ref with Style Ref (--sref)
05:24 Non-human and Abstract Characters
06:09 Multiple Characters (Four Methods)
08:25 What Makes a Good Character Reference?
09:08 Tips for Character Posing
09:35 Wrap-Up
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What is your favorite Character Reference workflow? How are you getting your best results?
Simply wow, this is the best structured midjourney tutorial regarding the --cref feature. Thanks.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
This video helps so much! Thank you!
Great examples! Thanks!
Luv your vids, M$ MJ master! 🎉👏🏻✨💯
Brilliant video, loved the structure and all the examples. Thank you!!
Thanks!
Simply fantastic MJ tutorials! Subscribed!
Thank you!!
Hi, thanks for a great deep dive video.
Pretty good video, thanks
excellent video, chock full of info and in record time. well done. subscribed.
Thanks!
no matter what i do (even with 2 photo uploads) im getting someone older and NOT me and its always same character !
Yeah, unfortunately the Character Reference feature doesn't do well with externally uploaded images (I'm assuming that's what you're doing from how you worded it). I tried uploading a selfie and what I got didn't resemble me at all 😆. Cref works best with images made by Midjourney.
@@woollyferncreativeI have the same problem with an older woman that I created in midjourney, every time I try to recreate her older. I probably wasted about $30 working on one picture so far. 😢
@@woollyferncreative yes i did upload a selfie with clear bg, busy bg,white bg, black… 😅
I took selfie with my laptop,mobile,…
The funny thing is ALL the photos generated is same person no matter what prompt i use !!
But Its not me for sure
I even generated a model then tried to edit the face
Guess what? It gave me same person! (Not me!)
I assume this is because external reference images do not have a descriptive prompt attached, whereas MJ images can
@@Kelvinapplegateexperience is not a waste . Once u get it you will progress with greater knowledge. 30 60 90 all cheap for what you’ll learn & earn . Blessings!
thank you!!
Best tutorial ever 👏🏽👏🏽. Thank you
Thanks!
thanks a lot. Your video is just awesome!
No problem, thanks for the support!
What I think is really needed in the community is 1) style consistency - we have that. 2) character consistently - we have that. And 3) picture to pose, which….I feel like I keep struggling to find a good tutorial on that for Midjourney.
Without camera angles, without perspective and capacity to form the angles of each image, we can really generate proper compositions that are designed by us, the creator.
Do you think, if such a thing exists, you could combine these three things into a tutorial? Because I feel like that is the missing link from Ai creator to finished creation.
What MOST of us want from Ai is the illustration craft capabilities. But as creators we want to be explicitly involved in the creative process. If we can use pictures of posed models, toys, even ourselves that we can then upload into Midjourney and then apply that style consistency and character consistency, we will have arrived at the new era we’re all searching for.
Agreed! And I think we're heading that direction quickly. Midjourney will likely be entering the 3D space this year and with that should come the ability to better control camera angles. If I come across a more consistent way to get specific character poses, I'll definitely put that into a tutorial.
@@woollyferncreative love it! Keep us posted! :)
this is great---What I am struggling with, and perhaps you've covered this, is that ability to have characters doing specific actions. I am creating a video made up of images + narration and I'm struggling to get my characters to do specific actions. Seems like they are always just posing. I know I need to do a deep dive into mixing (1) images as prompts and (2) describe and play with image weights. But perhaps you have some best practices you recommend. Thanks!
Excellent work! I consider myself very knowledgeable, but took away some very useful ideas/approaches from your exploration.Thank you!
Awesome, thank you so much!
You are the best TH-camr on Text-to-image stuff
Thanks for the support! 🙂
nice tutorial :) Thank you
Glad you liked it, thanks!
Great video, clear as always and very encouraging! So you weren't having the distorted features problem? Your photo-realistic characters all look super consistent. (Mine have NOT. 😄)
Thanks so much! I still notice some distortion in the results that I got 🙂. Slightly thinner or rounder faces, bigger nose, hair not as thick or curly, etc. Some characters definitely worked better than others though. I notice the most significant distortion when using external non-midjourney images.
@@woollyferncreative A lot of my characters got decidedly more "cro-magnon." It was definitely not cute.
There should be an option that reduces the probability that the character is looking directly at the camera. E.g. --clook [0 - 100], where clook is camera look.
I know there could be way better combination of words than "camera look", but just an example. Couldn't think of anything lol. I know there are ways to get them to look at other objects, it's just way inconsistent and you slam through GPU hours trying to get to the image you want.
Yeah, I haven't done a thorough experiment to see which words or phrases give the most consistent correct/expected results. I run most of my jobs in relax mode, otherwise I'd burn through my hours in a few days or less 😆.
great video, well explained. I'm creating a story in video format using images and I'm struggling a bit getting my characters to do specific actions. I'm able to use text prompts + an image reference that shows the action but I lose all the stylistic consistency for the story. Even when using SW of 1000. Any ideas? I realize this might be too much to ask of MJ at this point...maybe version 10? ;-)
@BigBrainBlitz if you are losing stylistic consistency, try using some of the images that do have the style you want as Style References with the --sref parameter. Showing specific poses and actions is a lot of trial and error, unfortunately. Hopefully, they will come out with a better way to do pose references someday.
@@woollyferncreative Yes--I used a reference image with the style and even pumped up the SW to 1000. It just refuses to pick up the style. Also played with image weight. Even at 0 it favors the position over the style--it really feels I have to choose the pose I want OR the style I want....maybe in version 10? ;-).
Thank you for a brilliant tutorial about using cref. - as well as your other videos. Something you didn’t mention, and is something I’ve also addressed directly with midjourney, is an issue when using cref and wanting a full body imagine. I have tried various prompts over various hours to no avail. The images midjourney produces distort the body proportion or they only show 3/4 of the body in the result. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you again.
Yeah, including "full-body" in a prompt doesn't always work. My first tip would be to full describe the outfit and include the shoes. This will try to force Midjourney to make a full-body image. I'll try to address things like camera angles and portrait vs full-body images in a future video.
Thank you for replying. Yeah, it’s something I do is describe the outfit and the shoes, but strangely the figures still come out disproportional.
if cref already
can cref again with vary(region) because face doesn't match 100% then must cref again
Thanks honey
What if i already have my own drawn character? How can i load it and use as the base character?
Yes, you can upload an external photo in Discord or on Midjourney's website and then use the link to the image as your --cref. You might not get an exact replica of your uploaded character, but should be able to get something similar.
There's a short section of this video th-cam.com/video/RYcGacwrnPA/w-d-xo.html that shows you how to upload to the website. For Discord, just drag and drop your image into a Discord channel, right click on the image, and copy link.
when i use the vary rigion,it doean't allow me to use cref ,I want to replace one of the two characters,so need to use vary region and put cref URL,but can't add the uil on,I don;t know why ,I used to use this function but now it stopped,anyone else here met such problem?
@lucy-917 double check the spaces and formatting in your prompt when you have the vary region window open. For example: my prompt text here --cref imageURL
Needs a space before the two dashes. No space between the dashes and cref. A single space after cref before the image URL.
@@woollyferncreative thanks very much,yes you are right,i just did as you said ,but it didn't work,I wonder if there are other restrict?i want to make a screen shot to you but can't add here,thanks anyway