Do People Really Remain Conscious When Guillotined?
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- Dive into the dark history of execution methods and the mystery of consciousness after decapitation. Explore shocking experiments and modern debates in this chilling examination of death's most enigmatic moments.
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A shoddily built private sub depressurizing in deep sea seems a pretty fast way to go.
Fast and expensive!!
One moment you're a human, an instant later you're a pink mist. Not bad. Just costly.
Seems. I see what you did there
To be fair, the submersible was BUILT to spec. It was a “shoddy” design and theory.
Too soon?
People screaming in the face of beheaded people for science has to be the most disturbing image I've had in my head today.
I agree.
Sounds like something which would show up in a Mel Brooks film. 😬
Or a Monty Python skit! 😂
I least you have your head 😂
“BAAAAHHHHHHHHHH”
Scientist: “did it move?”
“No”
i'd have to say "i'd rather go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather did, not screaming in terror like his passengers" bob monkhouse
I know it's a joke, but really, it depends on what killed them in their sleep. Twice, I had a heart attack in my sleep, people would have said, "At least she died peacefully in her sleep." It wasn't peaceful. Both times, I had the most terrifying and agonizing dream of my life. The first time was way worse because apparently my heart fully stopped. I remember the weird sensation of, "Oh wow, I can't hear the blood rushing in my ears anymore. Never realized how noisy that is." Then a realization of "I died?" Not even sure how long that lasted before gasping for air with my heart in a panicked, uneven beat. Second time, I flailed about, managed to wake up, trying to scream but unable to breathe, slamming my fist into my chest so hard I cracked a rib. Self CPR sucks.
that just made me spit my beer all over mysekf😂😂
An oldie but a goodie!@@nathanielashley9998
@@rhov-anion hey,hope im not being rude by asking but,how old are you?would these heart attacks possibly be related pre existing conditions or maybe habits that led to a weaker heart?
Wish you well,stay safe.
2 things you don't get to choose in life : Death and taxes...
My brain activity ceased years ago and I'm still walking around.
Can relate
You love bourbon too, huh?
Man. just like Joe !
A Democrat, ehhh?
@@mikejacob3536 That was funny but...no, never.
The worst part about being beheaded is that from your perspective, you are being de-bodied. Your body is being cut off. I wouldn’t even want to lose a finger, let alone my entire body! The horror!
I can't sleep now after reading that! 😅
You'd probably be wildly dizzy for the 0.5 seconds that you're still conscious considering your head would be tumbling which would make your inner ear do all kinds of things it's not used to.
@@-Keith-whoa I never thought about how you'd experience your head FALLING like that 🤯
I once lost my fingernail after buddy in my school slamed the door and hit my hand. I imagine beheading is way worse.
@@biedak
I have lost 2 fingernails and a toenail in my lifetime. Thankfully, they grew back. 😬
We had to put our dog down last year. I remember it vividly. After the vet gave him the drug to stop his heart, his lips and eyelids twitched for 10 minutes after his heart had already stopped. I knew he wasn’t in any pain, but I still remember feeling so much sadness. My hypothesis was there was still blood reaching his brain even after his heart stopped; or at least enough blood for electrical signals to keep his brain partially active. RIP buddy ❤
Heartbreaking to put down animals. I don't need anymore death in my life.
I'm sorry. It's such a tough thing to go through. I hate that part of the contract which we all sign when we bond with a pet.
ooof.
Ahh. I’m so sorry.. they’re family. Hope you’re doing ok.
Not a vet or medical, but my understanding of twitching like that is nerves and muscles slowly depolarising and triggering rogue muscle contractions independently of the central nervous system.
Oh no honestly I can't even imagine
A person in France who was due to be Guillotine said to a friend that when his head was severed, he would try and blink continuously, even after the head was severed; his friend noted that the poor fellow continued to blink rapidly for almost thirty seconds after the execution.
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office."
Aesop.
Ah yes, a third hand story, you can't get more accurate can that!
Aesop was so right.
I've also heard that story before
@@DepakoteMeister and only one account of the third hand story.
@@a6am3mn0n Exactly. All the believers in people being conscious after decapitation are probably the same people that believe in 'souls leaving the body', 'spirits', 'mediums', 'ghosts' and other nonsense.
Death isn’t nearly as frightening to me as the way I die. Ideally, I’d die in my sleep without pain. The fear of dying AND it being horrific feeling is awful
Highly disagree
Agreed. Once I'm gone, there will be no pain, nothing--I'll just be following in the same path as every person and living creature who has ever come before me. It's the getting there that's intimidating. The idea of passing out and being unconscious through the worst part (or the part unknown to me, I should say) doesn't sound as bad.
It isn’t nearly as frightening to you because you don’t believe in that burning dark forever place doesn’t make it not real. In fact there is no way of dying that could be more horrific than dying in sin and end up in that place.
Alcohol, cigarettes, weed, drugs, pornography, masturbation, oral sex and similar abominations, fornication, contraception methods, abortion, theft, woman trousers, hot pants, make up, jewelry, movies, all this leads to that place. And most Christian’s will go. 98% because of all these sins.
I agree
I had an "out of body" experience as a child during a botched tonsillectomy. As a middle-aged man, I found myself lost at sea in scuba accident, off the coast of Hawaii. I should have been horrified. There can be almost nothing worse than being lost at sea. The chances of being found are almost non-existent. A "voice" in my head told me to use my scuba mask to "signal" the rescuers. (It was my first dive; I had no idea that it was also a mirror if you get it wet).
I was baffled that I had no fear of death out there. Probably because I was already almost dead once as a child. I admit that a beheading would be terrifying. But after about 20 seconds, there is no more consciousness.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Retired surgeon
I died in the ER. Only for 28 seconds but the last words I heard as clear as a bell was, "I don't have a pulse"! Then next thing I remember is the room was full of doctors and nurses. If your heart stops then your clinically dead. But I can still hear the nurse yelling I don't have a pulse! I think if you lost your head for just a second you would see your body. I was told my heart had stopped but my brain was still active for a second or two.
You gotta be kiddin me.. seriously ya gotta story to tell
I once read that Hypoxia was a great "way to go" -, sudden loss of pressure at altitude without any oxygen - and you end up blissfully unaware of anything after a few seconds while you expire..
As someone who was in immense pain before I clinically died for like 2 minutes due to lack of oxygen, my experience is that yeah, all pain disappears a few seconds before you pass out and ``die``. I can confirm you see your whole life flashing before your eyes but you stay the most time of that flashing in your best memory but I havent seen any tunnel or something like that.
@@lolmao500oh shit. Im sorry you went through that, Im glad you're doing alright.
@@lolmao500 what were you thinking at that point in time?
Were you thinking bout your loved ones and regrets about things you could have done
Auto-erotic asphyxiation? Kids ask your parents about Michael Hutchence, the INXS singer? Or maybe not!
Yeah Destin from Smarter Every Day almost died because he was just laughing as the oxygen level dropped in a chamber. He forgot how to put his mask on and needed someone to put it on for him. He just smiled and said “I don’t wanna die,” like you’d say “I don’t want mud on my shoes.”
What I don't understand is how a head can remain conscious after blood flow stops. I've had blood flow to my head cut off via a pressure to the veins in my neck. I lost consciousness in maybe 5 seconds. Plus people tend to pass out quickly when their blood preasure drops quickly. I don't understand how a head that loses all blood flow in an instant can remain lucid at all.
You answered your own question there chief. With blood flow cut off to the brain you'll pass out in 5-10 seconds. So a severed head can remain conscious for approx 5-10 seconds.
@@renaissanceredneck3695what question did he ask? I think I'm missing something here..😏🤭
Ima take a poke at this and say electrical impulses over bloodflow is involved in consciousness..
@@renaissanceredneck3695The blood flow is very limited, not cut off entirely, which is what a decapitation is.
Fighters often have involuntary responses after being knocked out. They seem to get “stuck” at the moment of unconsciousness. A good famous example is Brendon Schaub. He repeatedly tries to grab his opponent in a comical fashion when his opponent is no longer near him.
Reading comments here from others who have experienced cardiac arrest. I felt only an initial state of alarm, like I was going to throw up, then sat down and closed my eyes, and started turning blue because my heart had stopped. I was at a friend's house and while she was screaming at me to open my eyes, I kept ignoring her because I could hear her and assumed I was fine. But she was yelling that I was BLUE and for a split second I realized I had to move back towards her voice. She gave me a chest thump that I felt, but was not able to respond to. I was pulled back into darkness and relaxed and felt so sooooo relaxed. The second thump gave me a "direction" to "swim" to, and I did and slowly was able to open only my eyes. I still did NOT believe my friend until I saw my fingers and toes were blue. By the time an ambulance arrived I was awake and apparently ok. But for those who have lost a family member to cardiac arrest, be at peace, it is a good way to go. It's like the most relaxed I'd ever been, maybe too relaxed in hindsight. But I could HEAR everything and I was definitely still inside my head, thinking, while I was dying. No panic, no pain, no trauma. I would assume a beheading would be much more traumatic because I am sure you CAN hear and see the horror unfolding as your body twitches next to you. Ugh.
People, like myself, that have very low blood pressure, can tell you that the second blood leaves your brain, you're out. It's hard to imagine a more severe cause of drop in blood pressure than being de-capitated. You don't feel pain, you don't even feel when your body hits the ground.
This makes me feel better, thank you
@@UltimateDoritoyour comment is epic 😂 As of you were about to beheaded.
As someone who has heard medical personnel tell others i was "gone" (SPOILER they were evidently mistaken), when I've been with loved ones who died (several times..I'm old) I always held their hand and talked for a few minutes more just in case. That way they'll be comforted by realizing "Thank goodnes I'm dead and won't have to listen to THIS guy anymore."
I cannot imagine the number of animals who have been tortured for the most pointless human experiments. Its despicable
Agreed
but yet you eat your fillet o fish--burgers --kfc--ect,or maybe not ,your decision and only yours but you should not visit a slaughter house
Yep…politicians would be better candidates
@@thunder21x I wish that was on the ballot this year 😂😂
Make up being the worst
So glad there’s a channel so high quality that still speaks bluntly despite TH-cam monetisation
this guy has like 20 different channels I believe I would not be surprised if he made an AI of himself at some point and just feeds it ideas
@@Olliinn was literally about to ask how many does he have fs. Im fed up seeing his face appear on my feed when im subbed to 0 of them lol
Having 85 channels I'm sure he wouldn't mind one demonetized video every now and then
Yt will happily monetize itself with scam ads …. “Cool your entire house in seconds …”
"monetisation"?
Having experienced 5 cardiac arrest in one day before getting a pacemaker, I can confirm from my experience that it takes maximum 4 seconds to lose consciousness and there is no pain associated at all. At the first arrest I fell off the chair and banged my head into a ceramic flower pot, didn’t feel a thing. The others took place in the hospital with no apparent injuries other than fatigue.
Had heart attack with 5 separate VF episodes and don't remember a thing you just blackout and then slowly wake up slightly disoriented hearing people saying your name.
I've heard so many stories like this, where a specific medical event isn't painful, and that the pain is in the recovery.
@@rthompson938my cardiologist told me that VF causes you to pass out. Afib with rapid ventricular response won't cause you to pass out
I have vasovagal syncope (I always called it syndrome). This means that my blood pressure usually drops dramatically after I give a blood sample. Right when they pull out the needle. A few times I have told myself I will not let this happen. Once I was standing at the pay window at the doctor's office and the next I knew I woke up on their couch with my legs elevated. I don't remember fainting at all or if I hit my head on anything. It's that fast. So now I make sure to be reclined when I give blood samples and wait a few extra minutes and all is well.
holy shit. Super lucky to survive even one cardiac arrest.
Glad to hear though that you did not feel anything. My dad died of it and the thought of him being in pain have been bothering me. Thank you
When my uncle died last year following a severe secondary stroke, he went from heavy, fast breathing and sharp movements to complete stillness and silence. Several medical staff confirmed his pulse had stopped and we all embraced each other. Approximately 30 seconds later, his eyes opened, he frantically looked around, took several more fast breaths, then he passed away again. Everyone was very shocked by it but it makes a little more sense having watched this video....
Does it hurt?
Blink once for yes, twice for no.
😂😂
"Uhh... he winked an eye at me. What does that mean?"
I am honestly not joking about this: I think we will clearly get an answer about how long someone is conscious when an executioner is visibly told to FUCK OFF. Something where the lip movements are extremely obvious.
A scientist/doctor who was executed during the French Revolution basically tried something like this. He told his assistant that he would try to blink for as long as he could. He was decapitated, and the eyes slowly blinked a few times, then fluttered a bit, then stopped.
@@QBCPerdition Man, I admire that dedication to science right to the end. Horrible that he died likely for no reason but being willing to use his death to provide data…wow.
One thing people never remember: we don't feel the lack of oxygen, we feel the excess of CO2. Put the person on a sealed chamber, pump it full of nitrogen (helium? Don't care - just don't use CO or CO2) - without oxygen and he will just pass out. No sensation, no feeling, no nothing. The person just "turns off". And yes, that's how it happens: ask any diver about the dangers of hyperventilation.
Keep it that way until he's dead, and problem solved. Easy, cheap, without suffering. Not even the asphyxiation feelings.
Never understood why no one does it this way.
It's very simple. They come up with numerous elaborate methods meant to pass as "humane", when the true intent is to torture.
I'd be fine with that provided they were honest about it, it fit the crime, and it was never a threat to innocents. As it stands though, they deny it's torture, it's the same for all capital crimes, and well... you know how little actual guilt matters to these systems...
@@233kosta Oh. Is that what, "They" do?
Thanks for the tip
@@contumelious-8440it's true though. Countries with capital punishment want people to suffer. Otherwise they'd just stick to life sentences. It isn't a rational consideration, except maybe a misguided one on its effect as a deterrent.
You mean the sysbofh technique?
Feeling existential here.. "There's no good way to die. There however; are "millions' and eventually we all will perish."
A million ways to die, choose one.
@@stringlarson1247 uuuuh.... 99.99% of humans will NOT choose how they die.
@@ifIOnlyHadABrian th-cam.com/video/g7qxiGxAwyQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=OlHlYlpMq6UO_gu4
There is no good way to die is something that I have often thought of as proof that life is meaningless. Why is that? Life is miserable for most and hard for all. The final insult of life seems to be not only death but that the act of dying should be so unpleasant. If death is indeed final then life is a joke. Only if there is something after death can the act of living be justified.
(Someone else wrote this) Chickens might run around for a moment after their head is cut off, but snakes have a bit more of a serious reaction to decapitation; there are cases of snake heads still biting people up to 90 minutes after removal from the body.
There was a decapitated chicken in Denver that lived for YEARS. Search for it.
Yes, but the biting is a reflex, NOT a conscious decision of the snake. Two completely different things. And the chicken was decapitated incorrectly leaving a fair amount of its brainstem which is why it "lived".
In college I had to put ringers solution on a dead frog's heart to keep the impulses firing, but that doesn't mean the frog was alive (literally had NO head). Electrical firing and muscle twitching/reflex can occur for awhile after death. It does not equate to consciousness
@@hunchanchoc8418the body part, not the head part.
You just gotta love Simon, he does TH-cam documentaries that range from the history of Reese's peanut butter cups to the life functions remaining in decapitated heads.
I once passed out from standing up too fast. It took at most 2 seconds. My vision went gray and then tunnel vision and then I woke up on the floor a little while later. So I don't buy it that people are conscious longer than a second or two with literally 0 blood pressure in their head.
This might be Potts syndrome or Syncopy. My child has syncopy. Its scary when it happens. Lie down immediately and slowly sit up and then fully up.
Doesn’t the brain still connect to the body with Bluetooth? 😂
Exactly.
I did this once when I was a kid. I had just got done watching a movie, stood up and I just remember taking one step foward and starting to fall. Don’t know how long I was out for, felt like no time had passed but I woke up face down covered in vhs tapes that I had knocked of a shelf.
But I’m not sure, for me there’s too many stories and examples we have of animals that make me thing it’s very possible for the rare person to retain some level of awareness
@@ChunkyKong-47I agree...I think it would be more on a personal level. I've ALMOST passed out two or three times, with grayness and tunnel vision but I was always cognitively aware. So .....
The people who have 'come back from the dead' , or maybe near death experience would be more accurate, normally have memories of bright lights and almost hallucinatory visions. This would back up that the brain survives after clinical death and that only certain areas are active. I've always thought that torturing and killing animals in the name of research is morally indefensible.
I had a near death experience and seen bright light however it seemed like I or my spirit was looking down at myself laying in a hospital bed peacefully so it was an out of body experience too. Weird feeling.
Stephen King's short story The Jaunt freaks me out... these animals possibly had a few seconds, but the test mice in The Jaunt had to be conscious for what people described as "eternity"
Even if you're still conscious for 2 or 3 seconds, that's a long time to be aware of yourself dying.
Yeah. Seeing the bottom of the basket rushing up towards you has got to be terrifying.
@@ostlandrAnd it might have a few other heads in it.
You are going to remember the feeling for long.
I think you were aware of dying as soon as they put you in that thing
When our perception is altered (if can happen during psychedelic trips or before death), our perception of time is also changed. It's horrific to assume those seconds can seem like years just before death. And then you just don't experience anything. So it's endless prolonged death of some sort.
Because there will be no you to experience the end to suffering.
I like how Simon can talk about all these strange topics without losing his head.
That tops if off.
LOL.
HA
I see what you did there.
😂
After I was gullotined I remained conscious for about 5 seconds. (I got better.)
Do you stay conscious for longer the more times you're guillotined?
A mere flesh wound...
Thoughts and prayers
She turned me into a newt!
"Recent studies suggest dying from guillotine can take time" I wonder which ethical board approved this randomized control study.
Its probably anecdotal.
@@anathardayaldarThe study was based on a slice of the population.
@@thejoin4687ouch!
I was suicidal at one point. What kept me from trying it, was that is hard to kill someone. I was and still am scared of the pain involved in dying.
When my time comes, I'd like to walk out into an Arctic winter wilderness, lie down and fall asleep.
I hope you're in a better place. I'm still being treated for severe depression relating to undiagnosed ADHD and Autism and get intrusive thoughts about that sort of stuff every single day, in part because my brain has become hypervigilant and over-sensitive to social situations or not meeting my own expectations about my work efficiency.
Thankfully I work in software now; I have a master's in chemical engineering and unfortunately part of that is intimately understanding chemical risks - a significant information hazard for anyone who is suicidal. I know exactly how to shrug my mortal coil with minimal effort and minimal pain and it sucks.
Anyway, I hope anyone feeling this way can eventually understand that they don't have to go it alone, and that there's no shame in getting help. It can take a lot of time and frustration to find a good therapist but once you do it's a game changer. Be well, everyone.
There have been no complaints thus far.
Massively underraged comment.
It's surprising hiw many people think one method of excecution or other is an instant off switch. I guess movies are to blame for a lot of it, the classic neck snapping comes to mind.
I actually know of one method that is fool-proof and instantaneous. The trade-off is that it is incredibly messy.
@@thomascoffin3292 Red mist?
@@Voice_of_Rambol Boom!
Yes! There was actually a killer who believed the movies and tried to snap a women’s neck. He sadly turned her whole head more than 180 degrees and she was still alive. A brutal and awful case
@@thomascoffin3292and you only need a slightly modified PlayStation controller to control it.
So to figure out if Decapitation is a humane way of execution, we decide to decapitate thousands of animals... What happens when we figure out that it is in fact NOT a humane way of execution? Oh well, sorry for torturing all those animals just to answer a question that didn't need to be answered in the first place.
Where was the "thousands" stated ??
Skill issue
It's like that punctuation joke, isn't it:
Charles the First cracked a joke half an hour after his head was cut off.
Charles the First cracked a joke. Half an hour after, his head was cut off.
Apostrophes: The difference between knowing your 5h1t and not knowing you're 5h1t .
James May from Top Gear once concluded that since a chicken still runs around after losing it's head, it is therefore not an animal. Hence, he continued to eat chicken when he claimed to be vegan, because chickens are vegetables.
It's a bit difficult to get an answer from them after the deed is done...
Neurolink!
😂😂😂
I’m surprised that he didn’t mention that one scientist executed during the Reign of Terror who wanted to answer this question so he said that he’ll keep blinking until he can’t anymore. I think he supposedly blinked for 14 seconds.
That’s a man for science I can respect 🫡
@@ferretyluv I heard it was in 1970, and it was thenlast person to be executed by guillotine in France
Accounts from that period are about as reliable as tabloids
About 30 years ago, I remember reading an article about this in Bizzare magazine. Macabre but fascinating 😮
Probably shouldn’t have been the last video I watched before falling asleep
Damn! The grimmest video content I've watched recently! Thanks for sharing. 😬
"it's just a flesh wound..."
Haha!
I've studied martial arts most of my life and can testify to the fact that unconsciousness occurs within six seconds of having blood flow efficiently occluded to the brain by techniques designed to do so.
Maybe we should call a veterinarian in. They put my old dog down in about ten seconds.
yeah thats what you think
@@hernanperez6550 it literally shuts down everything in seconds
My understanding is that the size of the animal (I include humans as animals) is also is a factor in how long various methods take.
@@jenA9026 they put down livestock every day. Same method and time.
Watch and absorb the whole vid. The makers of the drugs won’t sell the, to the state anymore if used for executions
If you think about it, calling it a head transplant is inaccurate. It's more like body transplant, as when the patient wakes up, it is the body that changed.
A little wild that Sergio Canavero popped up in this video after I just finished watching Joe Scott's video on head transplants which also came out today.... especially knowing how both Simon & Joe plan their videos weeks / months in advance lol
I came to the comments to say the same thing! they were both uploaded 7 hours ago as it shows on my screen, so they were both uploaded at nearly the same time, which is quite an odd coincidence indeed.
I also came here to this video right after Joe's video 😂
An 80's movie called Who is Julie covered the problems with head transplants.
So after the transplant you'd be a paraplegic right? There's no way to reconnect the spinal chord, or has it advanced that much?
@@Lemmon714_ I watched some porn star "giving head", didn't seem to be a problem.
As explained to me by a brilliant surgeon from Boston, nobody has ever complained.
2:01 "the disembodied head felt INSULTED after being slapped."
(If she could talk) "It's one thing to cut my head off, but slapping me! how DARE you!!"
haha, I thought the same. "now you've crossed the line"
Greta Thunberg face....
'tis but a scratch
Charlotte was a Girondist, a moderate. She probably accepted execution as a small price to pay if the revolution got less bloody.
The slap would have reminded her that there was no guarantee that it would.
Poor Charlotte.
This got me thinking about the 5 billionaires on the submarine that imploded. I was told that their death was so instant that they would’ve had no idea what was to come.
I don’t think they were all billionaires.
@@keirfarnum6811 oh! Thanks for the info.
Do you really believe that story?
They had plenty of time to realise they were in big trouble...
@@hypsyzygy506 I heard that there likely were no warning signs, nothing. They were obliterated faster than nerve signals travel through the brain, so they felt literally nothing.
I am a disembodied head that was separated from my body when I was 27-yrs old. I am 63 now and doing pretty good.
As Kenny Rogers sang in The Gambler, "the best you can hope for is to die in your sleep." How true.😮
Thanks Simon, I was just wondering about this.
As a doctor having witnessed several documented cardiac arrests (on the monitor), 5 to max 10 seconds to loss of consciousness.
9:12 I can understand the idea of the death penalty, and I can understand not wanting people to be guillotined. It's thought-provoking combination though; having a death penalty while at the same time not being ok with it being done by guillotine, even after acknowledging that it's probably the most humane of out of all the available options.
As always, perception is more important. "It looks less barbaric, even if it is not".
@@caleidoo The mentality seems to be that they want to keep the death penalty, but at the same time want to distance themselves as much as possible from having to think about what that really means. That's why the claim is that they want to find the method that's the least painful, while in reality the priority actually seems to be finding the one that's the least creepy.
@@snowangelnc That's what I said, yes.
Killing animals to find the answer is abhorrent.
Remember to never kill that fly or mosquito and never use any medication that was ever tested on animals anywhere. Animals kill for food or just because they are agressive, we kill animals for food and a very small percentage for scientific knowledge - which in turn has saved many animals obviously. Not just humans.
They are right when they say a single minute of pain is incalculably long for the person feeling it, because while a woman is having strong contractions during childbirth and those contractions only last for 2 minutes, it feels more like 20 minutes 😅😭
Childbirth? Meh get kicked in the bollocks and understand suffering. No woman ever looked at another woman giving birth and said, nah not for me. Everyman winces instinctively when they witness a bollock strike via proxy.
Yeah, but the decapitated head ain’t swearing and cursing at you for causing the whole ordeal.
@@PhilSet-10 you must be a misogynistic man 🙄
@@PhilSet-10Ha!
I remember reading a short fictional story in my HS English class about a teen that had a full body transplant after her biological body was destroyed in a severe accident. It was basically a brain transplant into a donor body.
The story covered not only the public backlash on the ethics and morality of such a procedure but the traumatic impact on both families as well as the internal conflict of the girl. As consciously she was the same person but her senses and preference now aligned with those of the donor. As well as the existential crisis and sense of disembodiment she would feel every time she looked in the mirror and saw a stranger’s face looking back at her.
It was a good read by challenging the reader to think about the unintended consequences of certain scientific progression. A “just because the scientists discovered they could doesn’t mean that they should” debate of sorts. Unfortunately I cannot remember the title of the story to save my life.
Spock's Brain
The heart is often stopped by surgeons conducting operations. Medically speaking, I believe that death is associated with the death of the brain rather than the heart.
It's a tricky subject, because animals like frogs can be frozen solid, so would by definition,be considered dead, but can then be defrosted and hop around to their hearts content. So no brain function isn't an absolute definition.
@@onastick2411their bodies also have adaptations to account for that freezing though. When the body freezes, water in the cells exoand outword, so your cells have to be able to account for that and not be destroyed by crystalization.
They're also cold blooded, so their entire metabolism is based on how much heat they have in the environment, so it can theoretically slow down to the literal bare minimum for brain function, whoch they can take out of fat reserves to fuel that activity.
Not a biologist, just sputting out connecture, but it makes sense why smaller, cold blooded bodies would be more suitable for deep freeze or hibernation like that.
I agree, my ex also agrees, the heart was for inflicting suffering
So it is.
The brain remains "alive" for a minute or 2 upon severing the spinal nerve and blood flow.the center that processes pain remains active but uts like an engine running while the car is in neutral.the immediate shock of the nerve being severed would make a person unconscious but not exclude the ability to think.its just that not a lot of complex thought happens when your unconscious. But there are likely cases where decapitated individuals remained or regained consciousness before the brain could die of anoxia. I read one case where it would blink yes and no answers for several seconds.
the point is lack of oxygen blood flow happens very very very fast you black out you dont feel anything even though the brain is working
I'm reminded of that Sopranos part when, in a boat fishing, Bobby says to Tony something like "you don't even hear it' talking of the gunshot sound. You're dead before you hear the bullet that kills you.
It seems obvious to me that you'd be conscious for at least some recordable amount of time. Probably not long enough to really process what's happened even when you're expecting it.
It's too funny that Simon puts out this video and an hour later Joe Scott put out a video about head transplants. 🤣
I found that coincidence hilarious. Great minds!
Two heads think alike
Joe Also made a video on this topic years ago. One of the first videos I ever saw from him
God Damnn Simon. Let TH-cam breath for a minute bro 😂
Seriously. He hosts way too many shows.
In the 12 seconds it took you to write that comment, Simon dropped 3 new videos.
Simon is TH-cam
@@Instructor1990 praise him 🙌
The biggest debunk about that head transplant project is when you question, If we don't have the technology to reattach nerves perfectly for disabled people that had lost their legs movement due an accident, with even less chance there is technology to reattach a full head on a body.
If youtube stops it monetization, the stuff must be good!
58 minutes after posting I got a bunch of ads so :P This is why it's important to click on Simon's videos asap.
@@trishapellis TH-cam now has a policy in place where even demonetized videos will play ads like normal, with the main difference being the creator now gets almost none of the revenue from them.
@@TheForeignGamer Yes. And this is the most ''YT'' move imaginable. Thanks for confirming, just what I expected.
Postural hypotension was a side effects of one medication I was on while in hospital . When I stood up quickly I blacked out by the time my knees straightened , and woke on the floor . So it makes perfect sense that when guillotined , unconsciousness is almost instantaneous , hypotension being an inevitable side effect of being removed from the majority of your circulatory system .
No way
The blood pressure drop alone would render you unconscious
5 seconds of oxygen in the brain...5 seconds to think " oh shit I've been behea........."
@@emptyemptiness8372No. Loss of pressure, nothing to do with oxygen, will cause a person to lose consciousness almost immediately.
Its a massive hypovalaemic shock, instant unconsciousness. However some individuals may not be affected by hypovalaemic shock.
@@ricklee5802official.1Rope_fan I don't think hypovolaemic shock comes into it, the unconsciousness comes from the sudden drop of blood pressure, much like a person can get from standing up to quick. It is instant (I'm sure it isn't, but for the casual observer it is).
@@DepakoteMeister incorrect it is also known as a vaso vagal incident.
Hypovolemic shock is a dangerous condition that happens when you suddenly lose a lot of blood or fluids from your body. This drops your blood volume, the amount of blood circulating in your body. That's why it's also known as low-volume shock. Hypovolemic shock is a life-threatening emergency.
As a qualified critical care paramedic i can assure you. The sudden loss of blood volume and pressure would account for unconsciousness. However there are extreme cases of a persons head being conscious post decapitation.
I’ve never really understood the idea of “humanely” killing people.
I'd like the list of channels this guy has. It must be enormous
He's got 37 different youtube channels with a total of 25,000 videos. If you watch an hour each day it'll take 55 years to finish them all.
He has 11. They're all at the bottom of his home page.
I was once beheaded but another head grew back. The process created Double-me. The original head was installed in a vat of a clear fluid that replicates the action of oxygen-rich blood. Double-me later wired the old head up to electrodes in such a way that it could have experiences and even speak about them. But Double-me and the head-in-a-vat, instead of tapping into the rich source of scientific wonder, merely squabbled endlessly about which of us was me. 🧠 🧠 🤨
Most people are hardly even conscious before the guillotine..
Let them eat shrooms!
I don't know about brain activity, but logic tells me you experience a sudden loss of blood pressure to the head when decapitated and wouldn't remain conscience for more than a couple seconds if not instantaneously. You merely stand up too quickly sometimes and experience a sudden head rush, so decapitation would have to be that much worse and quicker. People also blackout from pain so I imagine the sudden rush of pain from a decapitation could knock you out pretty quickly too. Brain activity isn't necessarily a sign of consciousness.
How eerie that this video came out, I was just thinking about this for the past two days.
Okay, Jeffrey Dahmer....
@@noway377 LOL It wasn't because of anything nefarious, It was because of a video game character died that way and made me feel sorry for them that they were conscious still even after getting the axe to the neck.
@@Mikohanyou Mimir in GoW by chance? lol
@@noway377anime pfp
@Mikohanyou I was just giving you shit brother, I think we've all been curious about this sort of stuff. Obviously, I've wondered the same thing since I clicked on the video.
I've heard that chickens whose head was cut off kept on running around for a fairly long time. I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean they are still alive, just that their muscles are relaxing/thrashing one last time before oblivion, but nobody has ever come back from decapitation to speak about it.
Hard to even post a comment about this topic without TH-cam's Big Brother filter automatically deleting it within seconds.
I’m confident my comment in reference to Pfizer will likely put me in TH-cam jail!
Yeah, really annoying
But yet here you are, making a comment complaining
@@jasonconrad4314 Eh you know, apparently the corporate overlords up at Google don't like it when you talk about the French people's very inspired use of their lovely little contraption during the Revolution.
@@TheForeignGamer That was the Guillotine, I believe.
Finally a proper explanation about this, I’ve always wondered how the brain can function when it loses all blood and oxygen in an instant.
Is it wrong that I want a second part to this video? Very interesting, thank you.
th-cam.com/video/P4hFRfOeZX8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wlIHFtA-gntqn1uN It's by Joe Scott but goes deeper into the subject touched on in this Video.
The top part? Or the bottom part?
8:30 to find out the answer
There is an auto insurance company,
which I have seen in NY State, with
the name DeCap, maybe it covers
Dismemberments. 😮
0:18 Nope. Still monetised
lol I had a good laugh when he said that, because doesn’t this guy have like a dozen or more channels? 😂
TH-cam will still place ads on demonetized videos, the creator just won't get any ad revenue
Given the spectrum from lightheadedness into fainting through loss of consciousness with increasing levels of dropped blood pressure, I can't imagine any awareness after decap. Electrical activity on the other hand I'd imagine goes bonkers leading to all kind of reflexive motor activity...maybe lips moving, eye's gazing...all cranial nerve controlled of course. I've read of anecdotal stories of eyes gazing in the direction of stimulation which is where my confidence wanes (and may too be reflexive) but still, I mostly trust my logic.
Even if they are responsive to stimuli, i really doubt they'd actually stay aware/lucid for more than a couple of seconds. I mean, there would be literally zero bloodflow to the brain. Just because they're moving doesn't mean they're fully aware. Hell, just because there's brain activity doesn't mean they're fully aware. I have epilepsy and lose consciousness during seizures. Sometimes, that includes falling/spastic movement, but when it's just a partial seizure, I've been told it looks like sleepwalking- like the lights are on but no one's home. I have zero memory of ANY of it afterwards. I'd imagine decapitation would be kinda like that.
I don't know about decapitation, but I now about cardiac arrest. During my almost 9 years in Intensive Care, I earned experiences with patients, that experienced sudden heart failure and how, if observed right when it happened, immediately applied CPR saved them. Bad thing is, that these people often stayed concious when we started chest compression and defibrillation. If applied in the first 30 seconds after their Pulse gives out, a Patient can still remain conscious, feel pain and even speak.
Thank you for this comment. Did they lose consciousness after 30s and were not noticing the applied CPR?
Pre vid opinion: I always thought people saying they do was dumb, especially just because some guy blinked. If your body can twitch after death because of firing nurons, of course your face would too. It doesn't mean you're conscious, especially with all the blood leaving your brain that quickly.
Good point, didnt think of the blood leaking out immediately-
However, everything we need to be conscious lies within our skulls. Its not a stretch to think- perhaps it can sustain longer than we can see by electrical signals alone.
Strange you saying they are dumb since you don't have proofs and admitedly says that its just your opinion. Instead I think that the head still have some feelings and consciousness, since I've seen video of a beheaded person, which still had expressions for some time after decaptation. The blood doesn't rush out immediately, there is still some inside of the brain feeding it for some short time.
1. I fell from a bike, driving down a hill, flying trough the air, beating a teeth out and being unconscious for a wile. 2. I fell from a climbing reck and destroying the nerve endings in my left side face and was in a hospital for a whole month. 3. I broke my hand and had to operate. 4. I fell from a bike in another situation, knocking a tooth out and biting trough my lower lit fully. 5. I strained my ankle multiple times. From all of those, wich hurt most and gave me most suffering was the straining on my ankle wich occurred multiple times. all other situations ether made me pass out or put me immediately in a state of shock, wich is a very powerful and pleasant experience, specially when you can see the hole, wich you just bit trough you own lip and have the thought that it's kinda cool though XD your limbs do not perceive pain. they create a warning signal wich gets delivered to your brain. every pain you feel is no physical pain but mental pain. your mind has some sort of safety mechanism where, when it receives to many pain / warning signals from your body, it simply cuts the connection.
Karl Pilkington has answered this one pretty comprehensively…
"You're an idiot! Play a record."
I would think the sudden drop in blood pressure would render the brain unconscious almost immediately...
I practically pass out from standing up too fast because my blood pressure goes down. I find it hard to believe that anybody could remain conscious for more than a second or two if the head was removed and the blood pressure to the brain essentially went to zero immediately. I can’t speak for rats though.
Agreed, me too. I couldnt imagine what exposed nerves would feel like though for even such a short time especially the spinal cord.
And there goes my TH-cam monetization had me laughing Simon is a jokester 😂 and true at the same time
Greetings from the Joe Scott audience!
Ooh did Joe mention Simon or something?
@@DenethordeSade.90joe put out a similar video today. after this myself and seemingly a shitload of other people were sent directly too that. all the comments are simon comments
@@progunil I just finished watching aid video but thank you
I can't even remain fully conscious when standing up quickly.
Someone should get this episode to Karl Pilkington & Ricky Gervais ASAP 😂
Just need to count how many blinks the deceased person does to confirm the hypothesis
@@EddieVanAidan exactly 🤣
death by fentanyl would probably be one of the best ways to go.
The German city of "mains" 😂 .
I was just pondering this today, good timing.
Insulted by the slap lol
kind of like people loosing a limb. fantom feeling. Feeling like you have your body, trying to move or speak or do anything that requires bodily movement, but unable to. Must be weird and painful few seconds.
What horrible scientists to torture poor helpless animals!
I remember hearing this as a weird factoid back in my primary school days. The conversation would start out with did you know, and conclude with the victim could see their beheaded body before they expired. Was I a strange kid, or just surrounded by them?
I came millimeters from having my head cut off when my husband and I were in a head on car crash. The tire came off the car, bounced and came through my side of the windshield. My husband died in the ambulance...
Joe Scott beat you to the punch on this video (kind of) just a few hours ago, great minds think alike!
"Lose consciousness after 2 seconds... so no, people aren't aware of what is happening around them after they're decapitated"
As the previous quote suggested, 2 seconds might feel like an eternity to someone in that state of mind. So no, you don't know what you're talking about.